What Vehicle Is The Best Bargain For A Used 4x4? - Trucks! S7, E14
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Today on Trucks! Stacey David addresses the two questions he often gets asked: What is the best vehicle to buy if you're just getting into off-roading and don't want to spend a fortune? And what's the best bargain in a used 4x4?
Remember watching this episodes on Spike Back in the day on Saturday and Sunday
@paquitos hammer That was a lot of years ago
Me too Stacy David original
What ever happened to this truck?
The days!!!
Yup! Stacey David was one of the better hosts too!
They ain't cheap anymore. Good luck finding a rolling chassis for this price.
I had my chance for 700 dollars, I didn't have the space
@Benjamin Villalobos then I suggest you pick it up. it's rare to find a running/driving Wagoneer at that price. they are only going to get harder to find.
@@farmsgrace341 No kidding. Maybe there is some shangri-la of usable Wagoneer's available for under $10K, but I ain't seen it since about 1987. I could sell that one for at least $15-20K without working at all.
@chris younts I love Cherokees. the xj is a very comfortable, capable and easily modified platform. But I am talking about Wagoneers (SJ). It is the Cherokee precursor. Cherokees can still be found cheap. The Wagoneer, however, is not cheap anymore.
@@farmsgrace341 the 2 door SJ was also called a Cherokee. The 4 door SJ's were the wagoneers
Now that everyone wants to pull up to the farmers market in their restored FJ/Scout/Bronco etc., these things are a PREMIUM
even when this was filmed one of these were hard to find. especially in that condition and it wasnt no 1500 bucks
You might find a rust bucket that barely runs for that price! And they probably lost the title because it was sitting so long
Back a few years ago, I was looking for a J 10. Over 100 miles away was a rust bucket that did not run well, 4k.
They had a cult following from even when this was filmed, no way $1500 and it has paint on it too? He did a recent show with putting a Old style Gladiator front end on a new Jeep JL. So people are still after that look
Especially here in Western Pennsylvania. They don't exist in this condition.
This was filmed in 2005 and I agree...no way $1500.
Would love to see repro Rhino grills for a reasonable cost...
I had a 78 that I paid $260 for, drove it home and kept it for 9 years. Finally sold it for $300. Biggest mistake I ever made.
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Proud owner of a 1978 JEEP J10, best truck I´ve ever had
This is a throwback. I had an XJ back then, I had paid 4 wheel parts to put on a 3” lift. About 6 months later I wanted more. I remember watching this and thinking “I can do that”. I quickly ordered a 6” Rustys off road lift and spent a Friday night into Saturday morning upgrading my Cherokee with the help of my baby brother and my dads tool box. 20 years later dad still complains that i lost some his tools that night
Dads always do...I lost my dads 9/16, 1/2 drive never heard the end of it...bought him one and he still bitched. He passed away, so I put it in his coffin. He told me to, so I wouldn't lose it again. Miss the old fart.
“Good penetrating lube and a lot of persuasion.” Sounds like a typical weeknight for me at home haha 😂
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my favorite 4 wheeler was a 84 grand wagoneer. I love how balanced the ride is, the shorter than typical wheelbase for full size rigs. it was a total pleasure to drive until the vacuum system went out switching the 4wd from the console. I wish I kept that rig. But time moves on. I've had 3 monteros since then and while the montero is a worthy off roader, I really loved the wagoneer body style and ride the most.
This was one of my favorite episodes from Trucks. This rig today is easy 0n the 20K's price range.
You aren't going to find this Jeep in the North. These things have rusted out years ago.
We had 2 in our family for years but I'm pretty sure they are in a junkyard now.
$1500.. lol... I know this was originally filmed some time ago, but I find that hard to believe in that condition. Hell, as of this morning, a quick search found listings for Grand Wagoneers from about $6K to $60K.
Well you gotta remember inflation but yeah, I think that was a farce.
Brian Elliott if fools with money would stop perpetuating the inflation of these, they would fall back to around a grand or two where they belong
Way too late to get these cheap. Old SUVs are suddenly the "In" thing. I just saw a basic 79 Scout for over $15K. Landcruisers, Broncos, Blazers - same thing.
@@nferraro222 yeah, unfortunately.
I just saw a bronco II listed at 4k.....
@@fyneyoungstunna Everything's going up. I've had my K5 for 10 years and within the last few years people are suddenly asking about it-and it's an 85-which isn't near as desirable as the early models.
The old Wagoners and J series were beasts with the 360 in em, sadly their hard to find and fuel mileage wasn't so kind although a 30 gallon fuel tank can solve that
My SJ Chief could beat most muscle cars off the line up to 20 mph and tow them back from the track.
The old Saturday power block. Loved these shows!
I remember when off roader's magazine did an article like this about 18 years ago and they listed 10 vehicles that were cheap but had great 4x4 potential. I bought one of the suggested vehicles and even though new/newer vehicles have more creature comforts, I still prefer my 29 year old tank. Like the comments have said, no way in hell you are getting these vehicles cheap anymore.
This didn't age well. These things are crazy expensive now
Yup, because folks went out and beat all the ones they could find to death or cut the axles out from under them for little jeeps.
Here in the UK I have an 83 Cherokee (Laredo) WT. Inhereted from a friend who passed away. Literally "one of a kind" as it is the only FSJ, of that year still registered with DVLA (UK DMV). Also Uber rare as it is properly converted to RHD, instead of the chain drive conversion almost all the UK FSJ's had. Aluminum bumpers, not the nasty chrome plated steel bumpers.
Sitting on my driveway, waiting for a body shop to be brave enough to take it on (and the lottery win to be able to pay for the work!).
I have not seen one in that condition for $1500 for a looong time. That is easily a $5000+ Jeep. The first gen Grands (ZJ) though are still plentiful and are the value king for solid axle Jeeps.
No way he got it for 1500 even at the time this was filmed.
you cant even get a proper bj for 1500
20 years ago??? Yes you could. Those were everywhere for almost nothing. Before Obama crushed them all
Absolutely possible 20 years ago. Especially before cash for clunkers, when you could still buy a reliable beater for a few hundred dollars. I bought a '78 Cherokee Chief in 1997 for $500. Today? not even close. 😞
1987-88 I was living in a northern Kansas City Missouri suburb and a guy in his 20s was moving to Kansas City area. Saw him driving around town with a for sale sign in the window 1971 Kaiser/ Willy's 4 door green metallic Wagoneer asking price $1500 ,he said he only felt right about selling me his grandfather's pride and joy after paying a local garage of my choice to adjust the breaks , wheel alignment, oil change and Missouri vehicle inspection. FINAL PRICE I PAID $1250....We drove it 8 years, all I did was maintenance and replaced a stock rear leaf spring and fluid change. 1992 ish same small north Missouri area bought the 1978 Jeep / Chrysler jeep Cherokee in all original shape for $ 1500 ( torn front seat ) originally asking $ 1750 ... 360 dodge V-8, 350 turbo, Dana 44 s drove it 5 years including (350 mile round trips) twice. Eventually Quadra track went out sold for $1000
I would think just because of who he is, will probably get a better deal than you or I.
You can't get one for $10k now.. Jeez
If you're lucky 😜!
No eye protection, no guard on the grinder & welding in short sleeves. YOU DA MAN, screw safety!!
Ya ask the thousands of other retards that are missing body parts or ended up dead.
Miss this show and Stacie's motivation to get out and work on a project.
Just stumbled upon this episode. How times have changed in the last 20 years. $1500 for the entire truck. In 2022 (if you can still even find one of these things) you can’t even get a rusted out non-roller for under $3k 😅
Oh My Goodness, Thank you so much for sharing such a good quality version of the series that got me into vehicles.
I can't begin to express how happy this makes me to watch these again with out relying on my aging video tapes!
Best looking grilles for that series of truck was the wide horizontal grille but with round lights found on 1972-80 models. Had a '78 J-10 short bed Golden Eagle for a while. Classy looking truck.
Stacy David’s hair just shows he knows about trucks loved this show back in the day
Kids today won't understand. Very early 2000's, no youtube, no streaming, long before "powerblock" decided they were an influencer and became power nation with near zero ratings you had 2 hours every sat and sun morning on speedtv with Danica Patrick trying to host. You also used to be able to buy cars like this for 500-1500 dollars and restore for under 2k.
Love old jeeps they are like a solid mature woman they wont let u down they have been places u haven't yet and are willing to take u there!
Never met-aphor that I didn't like.
She's a poem written in the most beautiful body language for sure. & current Gas prices just makes her even that more affordable.
Had no idea the core support remained the same the whole production run. Depending on the year, AMC offered the 401 in the full-size Jeeps.
Straight and simple upgrades and looks. Too bad these old rigs are hard too find in that condition,let alone need to be smogged in Ca...😣
aren't vintage vehicles (over 35 yrs) smog exempt in CA? that was the law when I lived there. but that was over a decade ago. different world, different time.
@@farmsgrace341 CA as in California is what I assume he meant not Canada and if so I can say as a guy that has lived in California his whole life I can tell you 100% that 1976nd newer vehicles are smogged here. So called "conservative" (AKA RINO) Arnold Schwarzenegger signed in a bill to stop the rolling 30 year smog exemption because he was afraid of global warming or some liberal crap fest that somehow a collector car effects in a large way. (The hypocrisy wasn't lost on me as meanwhile the guy has private airplanes a daily drives giant vehicles like Hummer h1's and yet a car collector is causing the emission problems).
So yes in short California has stringent smog laws smogging cars that are now 45 model years old. They go on a dyno for smog and their fuel system is pressurized to check for vapor leaks and underneath the hood all the stock emission crap has to be there and in working order regardless if there something better like for example fuel injection. The only exemptions or if it has a "CARB EO" number (California air resource board exemption order) that cost a ton for a manufacturer to get on their aftermarket part for a small market but I digress.
The other way around it is a smog "referee" that is state certified that can issue (after approximately a 2 year waiting period sometimes longer) a exemption for a car that has a later year drive train swapped into it which includes all smog stuff. So for example if you want to LS swap an old 79 malibu you would need the entire donor vehicle for not only its engine but computer, fuel system, catalytic converters exc...
There has been a push recently to get the smog law moved up to 1983 but it has stalled out and are liberal controlled state legislature.
I really need to move out of this hostile state for more then this reason but I digress.
Stacey gives that front end some serious love.
No longer, (2024), these went high buck in this shape.
Lol now one of the most expensive old jeeps.
How 'bout my '04 WJ for$500? Needed a timing cover gasket, and I replaced the water pump since I already had it off. It's my first JEEP. I'm diggin' it!
My girlfriends son in Montana sells parts for these things , you wont believe what he sells the parts for these things for. Theres no LMC truck for a Jeep Wagoneer or J series truck so your stuck with old stuff to recondition, Rust is the biggest issue, you can drop any drivetrain in but the body is the body, rust free sheet metal is hard to find , Restored laler editions Grand Wagoneers fetch 30 40 even 50 grand from places like Wagonmasters in Texas, these are not entry level rigs My girlfriends son has this same vehicle a Golden Eagle same color with a 389 Pontiac V-8 and a turbo 400, its pretty nice.
montanaoverland.com/ This is Chad Parsons and his dad George, they have ANYTHING you need for this vehicle but they arent cheap . They sell parts all over the world, even complete body shells and beds, they have at least 300 Wagoneers and trucks
Can't even touch that for that price in today's world
a jeep of that vintage in that condition with that body and paint is going to be atleast 10k, not exactly a budget truck
True but if you got that for 10k its now worth 20k with those mods done, front grille alone would bring it to 15k.
@@Cutlass_Rudd indeed, i was just speaking of the original "budget" truck unmodified
@@shonuffisthemaster This was fimed 16 years ago. But, yes even then it would be difficult to find one for under 4,000
Is there something cool and/or attractive about throwing old parts on the ground, especially parts that could be repurposed like the headlight that he supposedly breaks?
This is the episode that made me buy a 1984 Grand Wagoneer. Lifted it. Painted it. Love it!
These haven't been cheap for over half a decade now
I'm already @6:30 into the vid, and he has yet to mention that the automatic locking hubs should be replaced with manual hubs....why would anyone want their front end turnin when it doesn't need to? Less wear and tear is always a good thing.... #CoyotePoweredCj7
They used to measure the gas mileage on those by gallons per mile.
In the rust belt...that truck would be 7-8k, if you could find one.
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Can't find them for almost any price(all gone to scrap). Will be like a power wagon was 30 years ago(should of bought that '43 when I had a chance
I miss my old 79. After seeing this video and how damn great the mods look I need to get one again! Will happily trade for my JK.
Ok I’m a sucker for the two door wagoner.
Jeep Liberty's are capable vehicles with no resale value. They would be a great vehicle for modification on a budget..
Agreed. Great for towing too. The tight turning radius makes backing a breeze.
Not cheap anymore. I think everyone watched this and realized how cool these trucks were/are.
other RUclipsrs: these old parts I took of my car are for a giveaway.
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This was from 2005. I remember the episode when it first aired. It didn’t age well. Too bad. Those old Wagoneers and full sized Jeeps were sweet.
Sure seems like a long time ago but I guess not. Lol
This is worth 15 grand now
Stacey David is the best ever. He tends to operate within a working man's budget. He realized that most of us can't afford to put 900 hp under the hood. He's a "lockers before light bars" kind of guy.
I used 2 love this show on spike...i love how they throw the factory stuff in a pile...haha
WHERE 'S YOUR SAFETY GLASSES???? IT ONLY ONLY TAKES ONE GOOFUP!
I had a 79 that same color traded it for a brand new 86 4Runner off the showroom. I am still driving the 4Runner all original except the paint
The modern version of this is the early jeep grand Cherokees. Zj & wj. I got a 98’ zj running, driving, working a/c heat 4wd and a 318 for $2k.
Fast forward to 2020. The best bang for the buck would be a Excursion V-10 4x4. One heck of a rid under 10k. I'm looking for a fully loaded Eddie Bower to load full of kids and gear and pull just about anything. I can live with 10-14 mpg.just think of it as fun per gallon. I would love to watch Stacey do a show on a Excursion.
I would prefer getting some lesser old vehicle which ever vehicle it might be (I'm not comparing with any vehicle here in the video, just a general opinion over all). It is less of a hassle maintaining and is more reliable.
My $1500 truck is a 2000 dodge ram laramie slt quad cab long bed 1500 4x4 with the 5.2 litre 318 magnum V8 46 RE AT transmission manual shift transfer case lever on the floor.
There Amzaing & Fun to Drive.
I am in the Process of doing a Frame Off Restoration on a 1983 2dr Jeeps Cherokee Chief SJ 4X4 with a Staright 6 on a 5 Speed Transmission 3B Color Code Which is Sebring Red with Black & Grey Interior.
I was Fortunate to find 1 Near me for $2,000 Yeah that's it but that's what Happens when People don't know what they have to Begin with.
I was Planning on Doing a Frame of Restoration on my 1997 6.5 Diesel Chevy Tahoe 4X4 Yeah I said Diesel since that was another Rare SUV I came across but the Jeep is going to have to take Priority since there More fun to drive.
Oh & don't Believe what he said about finding that Jeep Cherokee Cheif SJ for $1,500 in that Condition cause his Full of It unless hi got it in the late 90s or early 2000s
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For all you nay sayers about the price I just pulled this up, Of course it's for today 12-17-20 Calf. cars, 1989 Jeep cherokee. Complete $999 ,sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/d/oakland-1989-jeep-cherokee-complete/7248067311.html , 1993 JEEP CHEROKEE - $1,250 (watsonville) sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/d/watsonville-1993-jeep-cherokee/7245596434.html
I'd love to find a 1978 or 1979 Cherokee Chief like that again someday. I had one when I was 16 and never got it back on the road.
The shop left the show because the producers wanted to add the drama like the other shows. When employees started leaving for other shops, the owner said it was enough. The show was ruining the shop and his reputation. That's why the shop isn't on any shows. You can follow the shop on RUclips if you still want to see some of the guys that stayed.
You really ought to pull this video as your idea of cheap is completely unrealistic and I feel you are out of your mind to take on something this involved - in other words you have no idea whatsoever what you're luring people into in the way of an expensive project. Here in California, you'd never get a $1500, 150,000 mile Jeep vehicle with a 360 to smog certify even with dual catalytic converters. You might drive around Los Angeles sometime and see how many of these are on the road i.e. zero....An aged Quadratrac is nothing but very costly headaches which is why most people dropped the entire drivetrain for running gear out of a '79 3/4 ton Chevy Pickup, and that means EVERYTHING - 350 Engine, Turbo 400, 205 Transfer Case, Dana 44 Part Time Front Axle and 14 Bolt Corporate Rear. Then hope to God it would satisfy the Emission Referees due Carbureted Engines just don't have the capability to run clean enough anymore. Once you get that far you then you dump the 350 and go to the Chevy 6.0 with the 4L80-E Trans. Realistically, your "$1500" investment easily turns into a $25,000-$30,000 complete rearrangearectomy and with Gasoline at $3.50-$4.00 a gallon, you're filling the Tank up (20 x $4.00 = $160) every 4-5 days, guys, it's just not worth it. Oh...and you forgot about Air Conditioning which would require converting to R-134-A (remember R-12 isn't available anymore) which would mean replacing just about every component in that system. Money Pit doesn't even begin to describe this as just about anything AMC or Chrysler built turns into something more expensive than a Boat to own. And to top it off, then you have to deal with all the AMC Body hardware that after 45 years is literally falling off the truck by this time one would think they'd need to start seeing a Therapist. Due you don't have to deal with emission issues a pre-1975 vehicle would be a much better idea but due to the fuel consumption it's still way to costly to drive. Frankly, just about any 4Runner or Tacoma would be a FAR better investment and still get twice the fuel economy of a Jeep. I have 425,000 miles on my 2004 Tacoma and it still runs great, everything still works AND it still emission certifies. Yes, I've put some money into it over the years but nothing like what it would cost to rebuild a Jeep vehicle from the ground up.
That's a American racing atlas chrome plated aluminum wheel on the Firestone destination tire at the end of video,i know because I had a set of them on my old 86 chevy k20 custom deluxe long bed well used beat to hell 4x4 farm truck and it had kuhmo road venture mt kl71 tires I had that truck 12 and half years..
CHEAP??? You cant touch a rust-free example that runs and drives for under 20k, LS swapping mine right now (89) and I’ve been offered $30k as it sits, rust free and 650hp!
What would a reasonable price be for a 79 Cherokee Golden Eagle that has recently had $27K worth of work on the mechanical and electrical side, incuding a rebuilt AMC 360, but just has decent paint with patina and needs reapolstering and headliner? Is $10K too much?
Lol$1500.....at this point, I can only dream of owning one, especially in Canada.
$1500 won't get tires and wheels in 2021 money.
Anyone know details about hood latch after Gladiator grill install? Stacey David didn't cover that in any replacement if any. Or original go back in? My guess is hunt down gladiator hood latch for compatibility? Anyone??? Plz thanks..
The Matthew McConaughey of truck shows. 5 stars
Because its an AMC built to last..360,401 .......He never mentioned it was an AMC..shame on him
Why not put the yellow, amber, running lights in instead oh delete plates?
Why pick the SJs, which you cannot find in the shape of yours for just $1500, clean, working examples are at least in the 10k and up range due to growing interest in the grandaddy of luxury SUV's. XJs are more plentiful and cheaper, as well as ZJs, WJs, and WKs, are all well under that amount.
Oh right😏 BARGAIN ? 1/2 the undercarriage had to be replaced, THEN , THE FREAKING TIRES & WHEELS COST MORE THAN it cost to buy used vehicle😳...
I can see the owners of these jeeps raising up the prices just listening to this guy. This must have been recorded some years ago or he lives in a very special place to get something drivable like that for that price. You actually can't find those around here cheap. Heck you cant find a jeep cj for under $9000 everyone thinks they own gold. Trouble is most off roads I've been in or more for smaller jeeps and such the bigger jeeps and such can navigate them but some areas are very tight. But the 4 wheel market for the cheap beaters isn't going to stay cheap with CJ's going for $9000 plus, broncos and the like starting to creep into the $20,000 area with people buying up all the wrecks and redoing them to sell them for "investment" purposes. There is a video right now on youtube where the guys telling people they should be purchasing Jeep YJ for investment purposes. The sad thing is Jeeps weren't that great I owned a cj and worked on it more than any other vehicle I owned. That and it's 10-12 miles per gallon . Tops leak unless you can find you a hard one even those have problems.
Releasing this from the 90's as new content..? But you will not find any of this content to be correct in 2020. Keep in mind that I'd be curious as to how 28" tires to 35" tires without a gear change and this won't change the speedometer? $1,500 not rotted out from where for an SJ these days? Thumbs down, though I love SJ's.
2:40 why are the new shocks depress with nothing holding it from being compressed?
Good catch on that. It is because they are not "gas" shocks.
20k now lol
just had my mind blown ...... always late to the game
This should'nt be old Full Size Jeeps. It should be clapped out 3rd gen 4runners. Those are the new bargain 4x4s. You can find them for $2500 all day long in the non rustbelt states
You got that for $1500? Either the seller was a moron or y’all are great pals.... I don’t know how old this episode is, but a Wagoneer/Cherokee of that vintage and in that shape is easily worth 10k or more, nowadays.
I have a l1983 jeep wagoneer with under 30 thousand miles.... origingal paint and tires and interior.... all paper work from new.... i want to sell this
Ridiculous how even just seeing surface rust makes so many southern folks think whatever the vehicle is,,,, that it a complete pos,,, and walk away,,, and the same vehicle someone from the north would be absolutely totally drooling over cause of how nice a shape/condition it is
We have a grand wagoneer. We removed the engine and slipped in a 331hemi. Gm 700r4 and Gm transfer case. Hodge podge configuration but it works. Rebuilt the axles. 31 spline and 355 gears. Gas mileage went to 24mpg at 70mph with the a/c on. Beats the heck out of 10mpg.
I am 16 and my dad just gave me his old jeep cherokee. I got 50 dollars for my 16th birthday and am going to Walmart to get tools to do this, should I get a combination of flat-head and phillips to do this upgrade?
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I liked my '76 stainless one-piece grille, but those Kaiser fronts are pretty nice. Thing's still got a quadratrac, though - even twenty years ago, I would have been wary of keeping that. Never know if it got decent maintenance.
I have a 96 Eddie Bauer Bronco 351 Windsor I've done some work to it but would love to see one in your shop watch you tear it down and rebuild when I'm done with my Bronco I will send pictures
This old, so not relevant today in pricing. Skipped over all the expensive stuff like all of the oil leaks. Nothing mentioned about the transmission or possible engine rebuild and he never showed how he matched the paint he ground off on tge front grille. We never heard it run though commenting at 17:39. Maybe this is a nice upgrade if you plan on pushing it around or having it hitched to a team of wagons.
In 2022 a used car lot near me always has interesting vehicles, there was a 80s Jeep Scrambler asking price 27.000.
I see people say $1500 is way too cheap or a lie.
These gems are out there, you just gotta go look for them.
I buy nice vehicles all the time dirt cheap.
You'd be amazed atwhat I paid for 2 rust free cars that I drove home.
A Grand Prix & Jetta Turbo.
Paid less than the guy did for this jeep for both.
Thats how many of us make a living with these cars.
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Everything is cheap and easy when you have a million dollar facility to work in.... This is a nice tutorial on how to ruin a beautiful classic truck while spending thousand upon thousands on dollars.
Hoping to see more of the project. I never did get to see it finished.
Those are not easy to find. Yes I know you are just trying to save some. Very plentiful when I was younger. Now what about the new ones possibly with the V8 or whatever is best. They to share body for quit a long time
*Simulated* bead lock? That's just a pretentious lie. If you're going to look bead lock, do it for real. Sims are for posers.
I came away from this video bright eyed and bushy tailed but soon that all faded when these Trucks are hard to find and 25,000 & up when you do find them.
360 engine is a gas hog !
i think this guy was a professional guitar player turned into tv host. you can tell from the 70's hairdo. he must have tech support to tell him which way to turn the wrench. but he is entertaining to watch
You my friend are soooooooo wrong!!! They are high dollar! No 1500 bucks !!!
Autotrader has two in the entire USA. $4900 or $12,000 both with 6 cylinder engines.