A look at the classic Makita HR2450 SDS drill
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- This is my absolute favourite Makita SDS drill so here's a little Makita drill review. Mine is the HR2450 and it's now 15 years old. If you're looking for a drill for concrete or brick you really need an SDS drill - they're a world apart from standard combi drills. The newer version of my drill seems to be the Makita HR2470 however at the moment Amazon had a special on the HR2630 which has slightly better specs. Link below:
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On the blowout issue on outside wall, switch off the hammer part and do last part using the same bit but just in rotary mode. It works a treat. Just for the last 15mm or so.
Mate that's a great tip! Cheers mate 👍
WoW, 15 years, I'll say..., Tools must love you so much, because you use them the correct way, so they're happy and healthy :) .
I work with a hammer drill from Hitachi that is 13 years older than me, because my father is an excellent tool operator, so I work with it gently with respect for its age. Tools are just like humans, they age, get tired, get ill, need rest, and shouldn't work for several hours straight , no matter what the capability of the tool in working for hours, the worker should never over do it, and should always maintain a good time management with an appropriate tool usage.
Great video. I've been watching plenty of your videos from the start. The production is great!
happy birthday, drill!
my 25 year old bosch sends its warmest greetings!
Have had the same drill for 20 years. Still going strong
I have one of these and would not be without it. lightweight and so versatile. Had mine about 10 years.
I bought my first SDS drill (a beautiful Bosch) a few weeks ago, because my hammer combi wasn't doing anything in concrete and brick, and I was coming up against tasks that weren't being done due to not having the right tool for the job. I never thought I'd become a power tool admirer. 😀
Nice tribute, Andy - looking forward to the 25th Silver celebrations!
My oldest powertool is the 24V cordless Makita SDS drill I bought 15 years ago. I got it at a good price but it was still ridiculously expensive.
Never a day’s regret though - it’s never let me down and is still going strong, with just one battery refurb two years ago. It’s tackled everything from concrete posts in underground car parks to poured patios to many, many stone and concrete walls.
Makita mightn’t be as sexy as some of the other brands but they build things to last!
Bought the same drill when I was an apprentice about 15 years ago, also waiting for it to die so I can buy a cordless makita, think it's going out live me!
Bought as a result of this! Its doing a great job getting plaster off our basement walls! Thanks for the advice.
Great video..
O have Makita HR-2810 for 8 years, and still runs smooth and powerful. I use it for lightly home DIY jobs. It easily drove (5x2) 10 foot ground rods.
The good thing about SDS drill bits is single drill bit can be used for many times. In my case, I alredy drilled several hundreds of 6mm holes in concrete, and still useable until today.
So, not just the rotary hammer is durable, the SDS drill bits also
Thank you, for sharing....
Hi Andy, I just purchased my first SDS plus drill, corded - an Hitachi. Used your video as guidance for greasing up the bits. Cheers 👍
Nice one Andy! Out of interest does it have a grease compartment for the gearbox? Realised recently when I did my SDS video that the Titan has a removable cover to access the gearbox and it was dry as a bone!!
Hey Charlie! No, don't think it does. Or if it does I can't find it. All seems to be sealed. 👍👊
I have one of those. 2630 and it's a beast. I tried a hammer drill in a really tough concrete wall but after 10 minutes I gave up. There was hardly a bump in the wall. I bought a makita 2630 and when I drilled the first hole I thought there was something wrong with the drillbit.
It just went into the wall. Totally effortless. Like a knife in butter.
I am also in love with my makita sds. :-)
I use a (battery) Makita 14.4v sds for general work. It's really convenient to just pick up and go. Handles most brick and block (for wall-plugs usually) without problem. Great up ladders or when AC not available. If going right through cavity walls, for pipework or 4" pipe, or for chiselling I've got a 3 function de walt. You can really feel the difference in power, but I do love the little Makita!
Got the same one. Very reliable! Only the cord, vibration and lack of dust collection make it my backup drill
i have a bosch SDS i bought when i went self employed about 14 years ago its been used for drilling, knocking tiles off floors and walls and genreral small breaking jobs , mixing plaster,tile adhesive etc, drilling small core drills for wastes on bathrooms and its still going strong dont look as pretty as it did but will most likely outlast me lol
I've had the HR2455, which appears to look identical to yours. It has done multiple tasks of drilling and most handy is floor and wall tile removal. Yes this is also one of my best tools. I've been in the remodeling busiiness for 20 + years. Keep up the great videos.
Cheers Larry!! 👍👊
I've got four Hilti machines which are all 17 years old. My combihammer has been dropped off scaffolding, run over by a 16-ton delivery truck, dropped into a bucket of plaster, and it looks like junk. But it still works as well as the day I bought it. Folks always think 'Wow - that Hilti kit is expensive .....' - but if you measure the full life cost of this against maybe 3-4 cheap machines which would have been replaced over the same period - it's actually way cheaper. All the best.
Skip to 13:30 for the best tip of the video. Thanks for the info and review, I just bought one.
Great video, convinced me to go for an SDS drill, thanks!
Nowhere near as light of as easy to handle as the makita, but I just bought the Titan TTB653SDS for 60 gold nuggets and this 1500w 8j drill is a beast of a drill. I can finally put my curtains up where they belong now!
Just bought the 2630 from Powertool World for £133 after this review so basically a tenner more than the equivalent drill 20 years ago(it’s now 2024!). Absolute bargain and looking forward to getting away from my old NuTool one which weighs twice as much and is killing my shoulders. Thanks for the tool tip 👍🏻
I bought a set of auger drills for my SDS drill, they wipe the floor with a battery combi drill. I’ve also used hole saws in a with an SDS arbor to drill holes in RSJ.
I've used big coring bits before in a huge Makita SDS - they're fun when they get jammed. The whole drill keeps going 'round with you attached to it. 😂
are those mortar bits really any good? i've never tried one, only used the round grinder bits
a good tip if you only have a hammer (non SDS) drill , is to start with the smallest masonry bit you have. Concentrating the hammer action into a much smaller surface area will help you get through really hard stuff.
You can then open the hole out much easier with the right sized bit, once you have achieved the depth you need with the smaller bit.
no substitute for a proper SDS though. I really need to invest in one at some point.
Yup - great tip Glen! Cya at Maiden tomorrow night! 😀🤘
Makes it loads more accurate too
@@GosforthHandyman the night after, I hope you mean 🤔
@@rjamsbury1 true. if you have to go at a hole for a long time due to having an underpowered drill, it will wander and end up oversized.
@@Harani66 good point - I have experienced that many times with my cheapo tools
Good quality, branded tools are invaluable! We say something here in Greece like "good tools make someone a great handyman".
They are the greatest example of what you get is what you pay for! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, great video as always 👍
"good tools make someone a great handyman". I think a great handy-man can do more things with less quality tools than a not so handy-man with very good quailty
tools.
@@hansdegroot8549 Totally agree with you. The meaning of this phrase, is to point out the value of a good quality tool.
Think of a crappy tool and a high precision tool in the hands of the most skillful handyman. I think there will be noticable difference on the final result.
Hi Andy, I feel the same way about my Bosh SDS. I don't think it is quite as old as yours but it isn't far off. At one point I used it to dig up a 6ft by a 6ft concrete patio that was over 8 inches thick and although it took me ages I got it all up and it didn't even get hot.
My dad bought a used Bosch SDS drill a couple of years ago as broken for £5. It needed an electrical part (think input filter? It was clearly burnt when we opened it up) that was £13 from eBay and it's been a workhorse since, it's a 2004 model! Likely will last a lifetime.
Bought your recommended bargain buy SDS as I had some tough concrete steps to drill (my old B&D hammer drill was really struggling). It is very impressive. Made very short work of the job after ruining loads of masonry bits the previous day.
I have the modern ish special edition version, and I agree its an excellent sds drill. The only think missing is a means to limit the speed, its a tad trigger happy. I also always grease my bits.
My first power drill lasted over 20 years and had a lot of use. My second, the same brand, lasted less than 2 years before it died. My current drills are both Bosch and I expect those to last a good while. Like you I have a cordless and a mains powered drill for when I need to drill brick and concrete. The cordless can do it, but boy does it take a long time...
Glad to see that you wipe the drill & chuck after greasing them. It stops brick dust sticking to them.
Great vid Andy, just upgraded to a makita cordless from my cheapo £50 sds last year, can only hope it lasts as long as yours!
Nice one Andy... I have a Metabo hammer action drill thats over 25 years old & still goin strong... 😎👍☘
My Makita HR2400 has been bashing it's brains out for twenty years and is going strong. I did treat myself to a cordless recently and it is very convenient, when the flex would be a faff, but odds are 2400 will see it's boots off too.
Defo - they're fantastic drills. 👍
My favourite SDS drill is the Hilti TE10. I have had my TE10 drill for something like 34 years and its still fantastic like the day it was bought.
hilti are king for hammer action tools
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Yup - Hilti do nice tools too. 👍
34 years! I'm only a couple of years older than it. 😁
Hope your wife doesn’t watch this and get jealous of the special attention you were giving your drill at the end, but it is her birthday. 🥳🤣🤣 love the channel, cheers from across the pond.
Ha ha - yes, I hope she doesn't watch this! 😂👊
I just lost my Bocsh a few months ago. I had it for about 16-17 year. It kind of still runs but I have no contol other than the switch on the wall. So I treated myself to a new cordless one as I am currently working on the old kitchen and needed the SDS to remove old tiles on both the floor anf walls. The floor having been the partly the cause of the wife breaking here Elbow and cracking her Ribs after slipping on them when mildly moist. I ended up going down the Dewalt route as I already have tools with the battery platfom, and didn't want to have onther battery platform.
They are invaluable tool to have even if they are not always the most used tool in your kit.
Nice! The DeWalts look good! 👍
Hi. Saw your video buddy.... went to Amazon got it for 105. Great videos always..
Cheers Shane.. keep the videos comin... !!
On your recommendation I got a 2630 last week for £120. I love it already. Thanks for the tip.
mine is about the same age..
One of the reasons it can last long is due to its ceramic armature that can tolerate heat very efficiently.
I owned lots of machines. but honestly., this one is really my baby.. helps me a lot with my jobs.. I don't mind losing the rest.. but not this baby.. hehehe
tx for the vidoe.
I have a bosch sds that belonged to my late farther It must be over 25 years old now and still going strong. Its in regular use around the house and also use it when assisting fitters at work. I wouldn't personally bother with cordless. Lot of the lads at work got them as it saved time looking for sockets in multiple rooms when fitting blinds but most are back to corded as cordless just dont have the same power plus the cost is really crazy especially for extra batteries.
I have the 18v cordless one I love it and as you I have abused it a bit ie taking walls down that it isn’t really designed for
I'd never even heard of an SDS drill when I started my first renovation. Picked up the Makita HR2630 and it's just been an absolute God send. I've abused that thing through two back to brick renovations - using it do everything from 8mm holes, through to big dity ones (20mm+) through double brick walls for pipes, up to removing concrete, tiles, plaster, chasing etc. It just keeps on chugging on and you're 100% right - a COMPLETE game changer. I have a battery Makita combi which is also great, but the bricks in my house are insanely hard at times and the difference is staggering. To anyone reading, just make sure you get one with a hammer only setting else you're wasting your money. I'm glad I stuck to wired for the SDS, too - it's a worthwhile compromise if you've got access to electricity.
(Edit: Incidentally, I just checked and I got the exact same as the link you posted (as in, from Amazon, that very item) and it was £113.00 and that was 4 years ago. Dunno why they're so much cheaper there)
Indeed! I won't even attempt to drill brick with my combi these days... unless I don't have power or I forgot my SDS. 😂👍
This was the bread and butter back in the day the 2450 is a classic. Ive probably used it for things it shouldn't be used for. Lost the handle years ago but Still going strong.
Alot of innuendo at the end there cheeky 😉
I have a Bosch professional SDS drill. It’s probably 25 years old but still going strong.
Haha you dirty bird :)
I recently bought my first grown-up’s SDS drill (2630 I think), from Howe Tools - 14 hours from clicking buy to being delivered and even cheaper than the dreaded Amazon!
Top vid as usual Andy
Hi Dan , as Lee Brocket mentioned , do the last inch or so on rotary only, saves naffin around changing bits, also I put a bit of tape on the bit at an inch less than the wall as a guide 😀
The batteries for the cordless version can be had on eBay for £55 for the 5.0ah and that’s genuine makita. I have the cordless and I would say it comes in very hand for raggling for kitchen rewires but it does have its limits.
Hey !
Great video. I’m certainly sold on the HR2630 and wouldn’t mind going cordless. I have makita and 4 5ah 18v batteries already. I’m tempted for the DHR202Z cordless … for drilling into concrete foundations. Which would you go for?!
Great practical review and demo. And very reassuring hearing you've put it to work for 15 years - rare indeed in these "designed to a MTTF" disposable times! And I guess a tribute to the fact that @4:34 you "always grease your bits!" Too much information, especially from a "handy man!" Thanks for posting, I'm off to buy one to replace my Bosch that blew up when the bit jammed on encountering a reinforcing rod in the concrete!
My old Dewalt sds i got 2nd hand off a car boot about 12 years ago and it still works like new, they seem to be fairly indestructible. Got cordless though and they have the power for most things.
Would love a cordless but too tight... and no more room for tool storage. 😂
Great one Andy, your content is never "boring" 😉. I'm lucky to have a similar spec blue Bosch and for my day job a Makita 14.4 V cordless which is lightweight and powers through. The grease you used what type is it?
Cheers Robin! It's just bog standard Castrol GTX grease - nothing special. 👍
"...Because I'm too tight." You made me laugh out loud, because I am too tight myself. Thank you for the video, of course, but also thank you for bringing a laugh to my day. Please keep them coming!
No worries bud! 😂👊
"I always grease my bits!" You are a one! 😃
I have one of the £70 Titans (I think we got it on sale for around £40) and it lasted 7 years before packing in, it still works as a hammer, it just doesn't spin anymore! That thing lasted 4 house refurbs.
I was looking at the 12v SDS that Lidl had in recently and don't think that could even drill through a block of cheese never mind concrete, but I wanted to buy it just to give it a go!
I might have a look! 👊
When I got my Makita sds drill (similar, if not identical to yours) I couldn't believe how easy it was to use, compared to a hammer/combi drill. It came with a plug in drill chuck, for normal bits, and three sets of sds drills. For drilling steel, if you have a new masonry drill bit, you can drill through hard steel, including files- not using hammer action, but slow speed, fair amount of pressure. Lidl/Aldi often have sets of longer sds drill bits, for not much money, they seem to be OK.
Yeah, it's a game changer. So many DIY folk still haven't heard of them. The bits all seem to be much of a muchness as far as I'm concerned so grab a bargain while you can!
That drill was the first Makita tool I splashed out on, and still going strong, it lead me to mainly favouring Makita tools.
Great drill! 👊
I got a low end( 60 quid) one recently... it made me realise my bosch cordless,which was £80 10 years ago, was as good as a knitting needle in comparison! I don't think I'll use it much but I'm looking for jobs! Love a power tool.
I was in the market for a hammer drill. You sold me on this one so I ordered the US version 2630 drill, a six piece carbide bit set and oil for $209 USD. I used your link so hopefully you get some percentage of that. Thanks for the advice!
Fantastic - hope it's a god one! Thank you bud! 👍👊
I have had HR2470 for about 18months now and it takes a lot of punishment. I rarely use it for drilling (unless I have lots of holes to drill) as my makita dhp481 can handle almost anything . I do use this for a lot of hammering off tiles and chasing(I’m a plumber/bathroom fitter) . I used this constantly for about 4 hours on hammer mode on a tiled floor I had to take up, I was waiting for it just to give up but it just kept on going and going with no loss of power. I love makita tools, and deep on their battery range so almost impossible to buy anything else these days!
Awesome drill! 👍
Glad you always grease your bits Andy, is to be recommended...
Absolutely! 👍
Hi , I’ve got a hr 2000 had it for about 30 years It’s just a sds drill not rotary or rotor stop
It’s got to much punch really for drilling for brown plus
I’ve got a Bosch sds that I use mainly . Makita are the best tools I recon
Had mine for longer than that and only lately been considering buying the 18v equivalent
Another great video Andy. Not sure about you dipping that 5.5mm bit in honey at the end though. I know it's the drill's birthday and everything but......... Loving my Gosforth Handyman tape measure by the way.
I was going to get a Milwaukie Hammer Drill but will get one of these instead. Thanks!
This Makita Rotary Hammer is really superb. Got it for 120,00 EUR (a newer one) - absolutey robust and powerful. I had a much more expansive one before (Metabo) and after a while of strong work was broke. Not so the Makita, which does amuch better job. I need it mostly for removing very hard plaster and it goes on and on for whole day's work for quiet a while now, rarly I have to switch to the heavy duty Hammer.
Off topic, but would you buy another DeWalt 745 table saw?
I love my 2630 - it's seen a lot of use in all three modes, but mostly as a demolition hammer for removing a large rockery (highly recommend a pointed chisel for breaking large stones/boulders). First time drilling into brick was a surprise, for both me and my neighbour... always use the depth stop... heh!
There is a 2631 model with Anti-Vibration Technology, but I don't know whether that's really a replacement or just an alternative.
I've never found the vibration to be much of a problem. Sounds like marketing speak. 😀👍
I have a Bosch hammer drill that's 30 years old. Probably not used as much as yours.
I have had one repair done. The switch was filled with concrete dust after some time. It is replaced with a speed control switch. For free.
Dam I've got a 110v one of those - brand new - haven't started using it yet - bought it ready for when the Bosch wore out - which it hasn't yet.
Who doesn’t like a bit of drill porn eh? 😁
The handle isn’t just just for comfort though, its correct and proper use is critical to the clutch operating and saving your bacon.
As mentioned by someone else in the comments, the Bosch video on using an SDS drill safely is great information but could be delivered much better so I reckon it gets overlooked by most. I reckon you’re the man for the job Andy and would fit in nicely with your other safety videos!
Ha - might do! 👍👊
"Gubbins" not heard that saying in Years. I'm going to start using that in conversation...
My workshop is full of gubbins. 👍
I got 2470 in screwfix was planning to get a dewalt but there weren’t any so I went for 2470 very decent drill would recommend
Wow, things really started to heat up at the end.
We looked up sds in German we think it means Shrieber dumph shrieber ( probably not spelt right) apparently it means push twist push .
Yes your right pretty sure 2 brothers invented either Bosch or hilti If I remember right
Good job buddy
Great tools. My DeWalt SDSplus is over 10 years old and still working well and I don't look after it as well as you. Good video.
Is it just my dirty mind or was there a bit of euphemism imagery there? 13.23
Fabulous review. 👍
So..... at the risk of starting a war....
corded or battery?
Opinions?
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I'd stick with he corded version - when batteries start to run down on the cordless, so does the torque. They do work great, but not continuously, as is the likely use case with SDS.
I got new 2470 and tested it on some rly hard stone. It went like it's butter.
I recently upgraded my 15 year old combi drill for a new 18V Makita LXT. However, I'm looking for a battery powered SDS. Any opinions? Thanks.
Do your really need to go cordless on your sds. I work in the blind trade, lot of the lads got cordless sds but kept a corded in the van for back up. Dont think any of the really bother with cordless much now as th cost of batteries is crazy#and cordless dont have as much power.
I have an older Craftsman Hammer drill that was just given to me from my Uncle. It's a hammer drill that can also be used as a regular drill. Is that similar?
SDS have that specific design of bit that you see on the vid. If it's just a regular bit then it doesn't work in the same way as an SDS. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman ok thanks Andy.
Great video again. Thanks for sharing. Can you explain me what a combi-drill is?
I have a 20 year- old NAREX (Czech brand) which has a hammer function as well but it is not SDS. Untill I bought a cordless 12V drill, I used it for everything.
Now only for drilling, screwing I mostly leave to the cordless drill. I was told that SDS is nothing more than a way of connecting a drill bit to the chuck
(no key needed). Or is there something else? My Narex has 650W but it has no specification about the hammer strength.
The hammer function I only use for drilling in concrete. For bricks I prefer without.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no expert but I think a combi drill is one that can be used as a drill and a screwdriver, they usually have a hammer action too. SDS does define the way the bit attaches but it also works in a different way to get the hammer action. It is much more efficient and powerful - a normal hammer drill would really struggle to make a large hole in a concrete block.
@@rjamsbury1 Thanks for your explanation.
Yup - as Robert says. So a combi drill or normal 'hammer action' drill just hammers using vibration - a bit like running a ball bearing over the top of a cog. There's no additional force transferred to the bit other than your own pushing power. With an SDS, sometimes called a rotary hammer drill, the drill bit is physically hammered from the back of the bit. So there much, much, much more force doing the hammering. It's literally the equivalent of turning it while simultaneously hitting the back of the bit with a hammer 4,500 per minute. 👍😀
@@GosforthHandyman Thanks for the complementary explanation. As my own (pushing) power is getting slowly less my next drill will be with SDS.
Interested to hear your opinion on the quality of tools. I’m pretty sure standards have slipped over the years. My bro has been using the famous yellow and black brand for many years and categorically believes the quality is not as good as 15/20years ago.
Totally agree 👍
Thank you
Cordless for me all the way sad to see my first corded one in the back of my shed but far faster with out dragging cables about etc ❤️
Sds plus spade chisels break.... For any serious job Sds max is the way to go.. For light stuff and drilling this is awensome, bouht similar new model and just used it today. Good drill but Hitachi has slightly great impact in the same class
I've had a Bosch gbh2-26dre for about 13 years at a very good price I look after it similar to you grease use it regularly at work it is very good condition cosmetically I keep expecting it to break but it never does the old saying if you look after it,it will look after you my brother has same makita as you same story
Got the DeWalt (D25123K) version off Amazon for £35 a while ago :)
What's that big red button at the end ? Looks like some kind of kill switch
I have a Hilti, Nice drill but if i have to buy a new one, makita will be it. That way it fits in my workshop because all the new machines i buy are makita ( i love to see that all my machines fit toghether, I know i'm a little crazy LOL)
Yeah, more and more of my stuff seems to be going the Makita route... 👍 They should be paying me! 😂
Today I saw that in shop ........♥️♥️
I have had it for 15 years, ashamed to say did nit grease my bits regularly. Worked great for diy home stuff, until I lent to someone who ruined the quick change chuck for metal and wood. Looking to buy another, leave that to family. Presently looking for spare parts, want to replace bearings, washers, brushes and such.. Thanks for the video. Also, no cleaning for handle grooves? What did they ever do to you?
You still have the depth stop/marker😳😳. I'm just a DIYer and have a Macalister (B&Q brand I think) so wouldn't get the use yours does but love it non the less but lost the depth stop eons ago.
Ha yes! It lives on my drill. 👍😀
Do you not have a problem if you go onto a construction site where there is only 110Volts?
Makita looks a great bit of kit but why do they only fit a 2.5m cable length on the HR2630. The equivalent Bosch has 4m and Dewalt 3m.
Just randomly scrolling through u tube I’m from Gossy myself m8 👍
There are tools for which you cannot cheap-out. An SDS Drill is one of them. My boss twisted his hand and broke his wrist bones really bad when hitting a rebar with a cheap Aldi drill. Sure it will do the job, but there is no safety clutch. The more dangerous the tool - the more you need to invest in it.
There is a fantastic video by Bosch on SDS drill safety - check it out.
Yup - you can do some serious damage with an SDS if it gets jammed! 👍