She’s counting down to 18 so she can properly tell her sperm do or exactly where he can shove himself… the verbal beating she is about to dish out to that loser might be fatal.
@@kateemma22 sperm do er! I Hope that wasn't a mistake or typo! You've just coined a new degradive phrase, the other is getting old & tired. A sperm donor is a good thing that doesn't get enough credit & if you can't father children of your own, you know how valuable it & you are. But a sperm do er (said with a less educated drawl) welll it says a lot. Also Instead of the worn out 'flying monkeys' I've been trying other comps like, winged primates or feathered apes. I already call the evil ones 'Stepmonster' & 'Monster in law' Karen needs a name change too, my mother in laws name is Karen but she's not, nor is she a monster in law!❤
Last Story: NTA. Giving teens a pass to say whatever they want is horrible. That’s partly why so many educators are leaving schools because parents don’t teach their kids that consequences happen for bad behavior.
I am a 37 year old woman who is listening to this in my batman pants. I am not embarrassed in the slightest. I will happily hang my superhero pants on the washing line. 😂
My husband is almost 46, and proudly wears his Captain America boxer briefs. He also has Captain America pajama pants, and Deadpool socks. If I could find Marvel underwear for women, you better believe that I would be wearing it gladly, and I'm almost 45.
Of course, his fiancée isn’t worried about his character shirts and underwear; she bought it for him. The both love it and it’s probably why they are, ya know, getting married. They vibe so well.
Mom should be grateful he actually had on underwear 😂. The only person who could possibly care or criticize he's wearing Spiderman, Captain America, Batman or Green Lantern underwear is actually the person buying them for him.
Sure, however he claimed that the only one who sees his underwear is the one who buys it, but mommy dearest got to see it. I do not know what job OP's son has, but in any job he would be a laughing stock and probably would need to change job if someone saw his underwear. Let's face it "If you show something to the world then you can not be upset if you do not like the reaction"
@@JaneRHeartofGold I like an adult who doesn't give a rat's a** about what people think about what they wear. If someone else messed with him because they saw a bit of Spidy underwear, I could see him blandly saying, "And your point is?" If his his entire workplace tried to make him their laughing stock, he's in a toxic workplace and should update his resume for that and not for any embarrassment on his part.
@@JaneRHeartofGoldwhat? I'm 32 and I have Mandalorian/Star Wars themed socks. I'm seen as a professional in my job and have gotten complements on my socks from those twice my age. Also with underwear, I'd fire back "why are you looking so closely at my undergarments?"
My mom left my dad when I was 10. I knew that things were tight and didn't complain cause i saw what my mom was doing just to make sure that there was food for me. She smetimes went days without eating to make sure i had food. When i went into high school i volunteered in the cafeteria at lunch to get free food so i didn't have to take food from home. At 16 i got a job to help my mom. I was thankful for everything she did and bought.
Yep. What you described is an emotionally well balanced person with enough maturity to see things in the right light. It's the complete opposite of Leo. Leo clearly doesn't have real problems. I mean if this is his hill to die on then it's no hill at all.
Leo story. NTA: He is wrong as hell for comparing you to his friend's mom. She tried the tact thing. She explained that she didnt have time in a tactful way. Sometimes when a kids is a brat you shut them down on their level.
He's 16, he's not a 'child'. Mom offered to help him make the cookies he wanted himself, but THAT was too much trouble for him. But not for her? NTA, he needed to be told in way that gets through.
Nice lesson yta, be submissive and teach your kids to be bratty like Leo. Reddit really loves to cater to bratty children. Leo needs to be taught to count his blessings rather than comparing to others
NTA on the last story. My brother and I are 6 years apart and half siblings, though we didnt know this until I was 14 when our last remaining parent passed away. My brother says things that cut and he's been allowed to under the excuse that "he's a teen, he'll grow out of it" whethet he said something hurtful to me, blamed me for trauma I wasnt part of, or just full on ignored my existance everyone said to just leave him be and he would grow out of it. Well guess what? He's 24 and we havent spoken for over 4 years, and what little we spoke in the few years before were stilted. In our last talk he snapped at me for not caring or trying, even though I did and was ignored and told to just give him space. The "teenager" excuse has to stop. They're old enough to be made to see when their actions and words are hurtful. If they're allowed to continue then it wont ever stop.
There are way too many excuses these days for kids and teenagers. It feels like parents want to be the best friend to their kids instead of ... well a parent.
@@Shimonotoki I think it's more that the. "Surly, angry teenager" thing is seen as normal. My brother and I were raised by grandparents, so it definitely wasnt a "parents these days" kind of thing. Rude teenagers are just seen as normal and allowed to be rude rather than reinforced that it isnt okay to act out inappropriately
@@Wandervenn Yeah, this. I've seen people say that if a kid *doesn't* act out or rebel, then there's something wrong with them. Never mind that kids and teens need to learn some measure of respect for authority, especially if they have good parents.
Last story: when people say its immature to stoop to the level of a teenager during an argument is slightly delusional, if said teenager has the audacity to say that, then it's nothing more than accountability to put said person in their place! Oh whats that kid, you wanna act all big and mighty...whats this, now you're upset because I told you off 😂not so big now are you
Shame is one of the last tools in the toolbox that work on teens these days. Pull the mirror out and make them see their own behavior by mimicking what they've done? The "being a teenager" excuse needs to go away when they've been hurtful, because then they become adults without empathy who don't get why people despise them or wont' talk with them and they lash out and become worse a-holes. Bro's embarrassed that what he said was hurtful and didn't like the sentiment reflected? Good--now he knows not to do that crap again. OP did it twice--yes--but bro also never apologized the first time. OP did it til he got an acknowledgement (I'd hesitate to call it an apology). Had OP kept going even after an apology, then it 'd be in AH territory.
@@tallyp.7643 And bro kept asking for a favor after being an AH. Being a teenager is not a mental disability. You shouldn't get a pass for hateful behavior. I know several big brothers who would've opened some WhoopAss for mouthing off like that.
So before I was a mom I was a nanny and you learn very quickly that you never say ‘I will never…’ or ‘my kids will never…..’ so I’m wondering how good of a sitter Giana is if she is going around saying that all of the time. I feel like she is the kind of sitter that only takes the job if the kid will be asleep for 90% of the time you are with them.
This! You never know what your kids will do. It’s scary when I hear people make absolute statements about their kids. Sometimes they end up doing the unexpected. Instead of judging a parent who is trying to do their best, people should empathize or be part of the solution.
As soon as you say ‘my kids would never’. It’s about 100% certainty they will begin to ‘never’ like they never had before. My brother was a perfect parent (pointed many things I was doing ‘wrong’), and then he became a parent. 🤣 I’ve really enjoyed that show.
Story 1: you do not have to censor your comments just because their other kids are meant to not know who their father is. They have every right to know their father ditched their sister when their mother died. I cannot imagine marrying someone who ditched their own kids & I certainly would never have kids with someone who abandoned their child particularly following the death of their mother.
those kids also need to know if their mother dies dad is gone like a thief in the night. but hey, at least they'll get a pen pal out of it. and like you said, how can a woman marry a man like that knowing full well if something happens to her the kids will be tossed aside.
The second wife was probably delighted to not have to deal with a stepdaughter so that the children that she had with him could take precedence in their lives🙁
Wow, that commenter who said she should try harder - now THAT person is an AH. Linda works less hours, and has a housekeeper?? No bloody wonder she has time to cook. OP was right to shut Leo down. He was hurtful and hateful and could do with being less self-entitled. Time for him to grow some empathy!!!
Right, I'm not surprised by the opinions of some redditors. They wouldn't know reality if it smacked them in the face. Leo is 16 years old. He definitely should have empathy, and he can learn how to make some cookies.
It feels like Leo has picked up some sexist theories that he's trying to apply to his mother... Otherwise, why would a 16 year old ignore a whole bunch of context as to why his mother's life is different than Linda's.
@@EnDB Right? I started cooking on my own at around 10 years old. Beyond helping other adults I mean. I'm not saying he needs to know how to cook. I'm wondering why he feels like his mom has to cater to him. How is this kid so unaware and spoiled?
Last story: NTA so many teenagers now a days can’t even apologize when they mess up or have basic decency… OP is taking to much shit from his parents and brother!
First story: To OP who stepped up and took in his niece after Daniel gave up all rights and ran away. I would have said this to Alice in front of him too just to be awesome (and even more spiteful),"He may have been your father dear, but he was never your daddy."
OP NTA. I feel for the dad and Alice because of their loss. It wasn't something they had control over and isn't their fault. But what is bio dad's fault is dumping his young grieving daughter on someone else and running away instead of being the parent she needed. OP, you, your wife and children are totally awesome for talking Alice in and giving her the love and help she needed and treating her like family. I don't know if bio dad told his wife the truth or not but if they got married, they should have told Alice. The fact bio dad acted all upset she didn't hug and call him dad when she saw him makes me mad at him. OP you told the truth and we're protecting Alice. He doesn't get to waltz in and pretend he is dad after abandoning her for 14 yrs. Wife and other kids need to know too. When times get tough he will abandon his family and try to restart like nothing happened and still think he is owed dad of the year awards. OP only way you would be YTA is if what you said was a lie. But since all of it was true and you were not defaming him, he got what he deserves. Keep protecting Alice and being there for her.
Haha…😂 the second story makes me laugh so hard, my sister said something like this when she was due to have her first at age 45, I asked her if she got any “baby proofing” for cabinets and such.. and her answer “no we are just going to tell him no” 😂😂😂😂😂 not to mention the next year, she practically pulled her arm out of the sockets “trying” to open up any cabinet in her house😂 I laughed every time😅
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like this "baby proofing" thing is strictly American thing, because I have never heard of anyone doing that - and I have close friends and family in multiple countries.
@@margaritap.9459 Oh dear, that's so untrue. We have an entire section of baby proofing stuff. From covers for sockets, to gates that are installed at the stairs so the baby don't go up/down when they start exploring. It's just common sense to keep them from situations where they might come to serious harm. And don't think just because you have something out of their reach, they won't be able to get it. Heck I have pictures of myself as a kid that show me after I had managed to climb the bookshelf and pull out all the magazines my parents had believed to be out of my reach. My sister bought a special fence so her kids couldn't go to close to the fireplace. Fire looks interesting to a toddler and she used it until her kids had learned that while fire looks pretty, it is hot and could hurt them. Believe me kids will explore and they are unable to properly recognize dangerous situations. And no matter how good a parent you are, you will never be able to prevent all the little stuff that might happen... but by baby proofing, you can ensure that it is only the little stuff that happens.
@@margaritap.9459 I think Americans are more prone to letting baby roam the house while Europeans are more prone to limiting how much of the house baby can explore. It’s a shift I’ve seen in the US. We’ve shifted from putting kids in playpens to make the house as safe as the playpen. We did the basics in our house. Covered outlets so kids can’t stick their fingers in. Put household chemicals in locked cabinets. Tether furniture to walls to keep them from tipping over if the kiddo decides to emulate a trek up Mt Everest. For our third kid, we had to install a chain on the front door that she couldn’t reach even if standing on a chair. She was absolutely determined to escape.
Oh wow!!! Cool, what a difference of opinions.. I’m live in the US but am from another country and have always had “baby proofing” as an option and a necessity, it gets drilled into out head’s every year how many babies are harmed by stairs, poison, burns….you name it, I had no idea that it was not universal…lol.
The ESH/YTA responses to the last 2 stories disturb me. Yes, an adult was rough to a teen nearing adulthood. You know what that result it had on the teen? They'll remember they disrespected someone who was once nice and it was NOT okay to do that because it can and will be turned around to haunt them. If they had done what Captain Hindsight in the comments claims and been soft and gentle and loving, that teen would have learned NOTHING. "I love you please don't hurt me" does jack all to a disrespectful teen who is looking down at the adults in their life for not giving them more. It just encourages them to be more disrespectful because they weren't harmed in any way. The slight sting of being humiliated in a very minor way is a lesson they will never forget.
I don't think a mushy conversation was necessary, but God forbid an adult man gave a little grace to a teenager. 🙄 Bringing it up once was enough, the second time made him a jerk
@@mysteryfan15 Okay, so this is a person getting ready to be responsible for a car. This is a person that knew enough to say something in a way that he knew would hurt the other person's feelings. This is a person that is 3 short years away from legal adulthood. Why does he need grace again? People learn that words can hurt in freaking preschool. Does you really think that this boy has never learned about hurtful words and actions prior to now? What the heck were you doing at 15 that you feel he is too feebleminded to be held accountable for his own words?
@@mysteryfan15 The teenager could have apologized after the first retour. Than a second wouldn't have been necessary. He learned a very valuable lesson: actions have consequences. And he will remember that.
@YN Monroe I'm glad you've never said things you regret in the heat of anger, but most humans haven't been so fortunate. And op did it twice, so why would the teenager be the only ahole? At the very least, it's ESH.
Story #3: OP is desperately out of touch with reality. A good chunk of the population do wear cartoon underwear to go with their cartoon socks and cartoon shirts. I got cartoon socks for Christmas (Ren & Stimpy) and I plan on wearing them this summer. By the by, I also have a Looney Tune tie as well. Oh and OP is a massive YTA.
Yeah first of all your grown sons underwear is none of your business, that's just weird, also if adults weren't meant to wear super hero garb, they wouldn't make them in adult sizes.
If she were my co-worker she'd probably lose what's left of her mind. I'm over 50 and have been known to wear Hogwarts sweaters to the office on a regular basis and my hand knit scarf is Hufflepuff. No one has a problem with it. Heck, I even knit a really nice Gryffindor scarf for a co-worker's RETIRED husband.
That commenter who called the single mom's food "thoughtless" needs to take a flying leap! Yes, she could've handled the situation better, but she seems like a good mom doing the best she can.
There's a book "How to Keep House While Drowning" where the basic premise is that there are Important Things and then there's everything else. When you don't have the extra energy/spoons to do more things, you put them aside and focus on the important things. Is the kid getting food? Is it relatively the right amount of calories and nutrition? Then it doesn't matter if it's homemade or store-bought or deli or fast food. It's food. "Fed is best." Personally, if I had a little time to spend, I'd start the kid learning cooking. Give him homework of looking up two Struggle Meals episodes a night (they're short) and deciding on one meal a week that he can try to make. Then work with him to figure out the ingredients and make a list, and take him shopping. Help him figure out how to price things, get good deals, avoid name brands. Then help him portion everything out, pack up what he's not gonna use, get the pans and dishes ready, and actually get to work on the meal. After a few weeks of making meals, he likely won't think it's so easy to just come up with something. And he'll be able to invite his friends over for homemade cookies and pizza or pasta -- that *he* made. (Heck, colorful pasta is super easy: cook noodles, put in ziplock bag, add a couple drops of food coloring and a tablespoon of water, shake it up. You can make a white cheese sauce and color that however you like. Simple and kid-friendly.)
Leo's mom story the YTAs are all out of line. It is perfectly reasonable to give him a piece of his own medicine when it comes to verbal exhange. He was old enough to know his comparisons are to hurt or coerce his mom into doing things to impress his friends. It wasn't out of a genuine need to feel loved and cared for like the "can you just try a little harder?" comment. That said, he is also old enough to start taking charge of things like cooking and cleaning and I bet she didn't get him on it because she felt obligated to always provide and has in turned raised a spoiled teen. If he wants cookies he can bake them himself. If he wants an impressive home cooked meal he can help. In the end him comparing her to a relative super mom deserved him being compared to a relative super son. He deserved that serving of humble pie.
She could bake cookies with her son or do homemade pizza the kids could help with. She doesn’t needed to be just like Sam’s mom but from the sound of it her kid wants more then delivered pizzas and cookies from a store.
@@tracim3080 she makes the meal prep boxes, pasta, and chicken- it's not like she orders pizza every night. He wants something special made from scratch-- he can make it himself. My mom doesn't cook, so I don't ask her to make things she's not comfortable making. Teens aren't really considerate, but considering how many times she's had to brush off the garbage comments he's made, I'm not surprised OP snapped. I would've told him to make his own dinner. Kid doesn't need to be coddled. NTA
Leo: "Comparing people to other people is mean and disrespectful." Agreed, which is why when Leo did it, him getting his feelings hurt was a great lesson.
Story 4 NTA op is a single working mom obviously she can't do all the things the other parents can do. It would be good to follow this up with a conversation about if he feels like he's neglected but no kid should talk to their parents like that
Yeah if he doesn't want to be compared to Sam then maybe he should stop comparing his mom to Sam's mom. At 16 he's old enough to know better, he can see the situations are different, Sams mom has a housekeeper and a spouse.
The last commenter obviously lives in a two parent family who could afford to have one parent stay home and cook all the time. So their perception is obviously skewed
I can't believe OP is worried about her adult son wearing character t-shirts and underwear. He and his fiancé are not the only ones buying and wearing them. They wouldn't be made and sold if adults weren't buying them. OP is the one who needs to grow up. She's the one embarrassed by it her son isn't.
At 14 the kid should know and understand the situational difference between his home and his friends home. Why can’t the 14 yo bake cookies himself? The kid is a bit spoiled. Pretty sure he wouldn’t speak like that to his parent if op was a single dad instead.
Story 1, NTA. The guy Definitely told his wife and kids lies to make himself look better. He definitely didn't tell them the truth that's for sure. Good on op for telling him off and it was a good thing that it was Infront of the wife and kids so they now see him for what he really is.
So the boy is 15 and “old enough to know better”, but he should get a pass. Nah. Maybe OP’s father and step mother should have raised a better kid that isn’t an AH to his older brother when he NEEDS him
I'm so glad that some companies are finally realizing that it's not just little kids that want light up shoes, characters on their clothing, or other fun things to wear. xD
The speed at which I would have been thrown out of my parent's house and told to go live with Lynda would give me whiplash if I _ever_ spoke to my mother the way Leo spoke to OP. And all these comments saying "don't compare Leo to this other kid!" are completely ignoring the fact that Leo compared his mother to that exact same family? He's old enough to learn about glass houses.
Gina is absolutely the kind of parent that will abuse tf out of her kids for not complying with the perfect image she has for them and making her look like a less than perfect parent.
I love that XO just reads the post, a few comments, and doesn't put in his own comments, doesnt chat to us, just straight reads the posts and comments without sharing his own opinion. But i love that you can hear from his tone whilst reading and the occasional chuckle when he's reading something he finds ridiculous 🤣
The minute Leo called OP lazy, he would have had all privileges taken away. No friends would be coming over for a while. He also would be helping with dinner since he seems to think its not that hard. Kids will disrespect you if you let them so he needs to be taught he can't do it to OP.
What a weird comment that person said about the single mom and her ungrateful kid. "Why don't you just try to cook more, you're jealous" followed by "Have a conversation about how different people do different things". What even is your point. For the story after that, I don't believe in "be the bigger person" nor "don't stoop to their level". Actions have consequences, and if you didn't know that as a teen it's about time you learn. If the kid wants to say they aren't actual brothers, he doesn't get to back out with a "he's just a teen" excuse when it comes to bite him. He's a kid, that's exactly why you can't let 'em off with a "they're just kids". They need to be raised right or they'll act likes kids when they're adults.
OP YTA that was the most funniest thing I read. As long as the underwear works properly, fits correctly it doesn't matter what they look like as long as they can't be seen through clothes. People like different types of underwear, colors, ect. Doesn't really matter as long as they are flashing their underwear to others.
Story home meals: NTA, why does the single mom who works long hours have to do extra work for a 16y… That kid entitled and lazy! The comparison isn’t even accurate the kid needed a reality check and OP gave it.
Last story: Meh, NTA, honestly. Time to see that actions have consequences and words have lasting effects. Even if little bro didn't actually mean it and was just using hurtful words to get his way, it still wouldn't have been an asshole move if OP even kicked it up a notch and stopped all brotherly things. Kid "disowned" OP first, let's see how he likes it when something actually happens in response to his words.
Well of course the household with 3 adults can find time to do homemade meals and baking. The single Mom working full-time is short a couple of people to accomplish the same amount of work in any given day.
Story 1: NTA. His wife dies and he basically ABANDONED HIS CHILD WHO LOST HER MOTHER TOO, married another woman and didn’t even let his child MEET HER LET ALONE INVITE HER TO THE WEDDING, had two other children with the new wife and ONLY SENT MONEY AND EXCHANGED LETTERS WITH HIS FIRST CHILD. and he expected nobody to call him a deadbeat?!
how strange the people on the internet always say the parents must buckle to their rude kids the kids are not in charge here that is why they are always getting in trouble, and i know that kids that come out of two parents house hold still go out there and do messed up shit pk
Single mother NTA, I was raised in a single mother household me and my sister and we were seven years apart so by the time I was a teenager my sister had moved out. My mother used to call me up and tell me to start dinner, and she explain to me how to do it. I felt like that was normal and I learned stuff I never compared my life to other peoples and said oh, your mom does better than mine. I just observed other peoples household I would’ve never told my mother you don’t love me because you’re not doing what XYZ is mother is doing.
Spider man story, the op is one of those ppl that believe that once you hit 18 you give up all "childish" things because you're an "adult" now. Nothing but beige and grays for you, no bright colors, no joy. And that type of person is sad on the inside
Last story NTA...15 year olds are old and conscious enough to know what their actions and what they say does to other people but op could've always thought before he spoke too
Don't you just LOVE the comment telling the single working Mom that feeding her son PRE-COOKED and easy fix meals means she ISNT trying hard enough or showing him enough love? "Have a mom that REALLY CARES!" JFCOAPS My Mom was a single parent who tried her best and I KNEW she worked liked crazy, yet she wasn't someone who did a lot of home cooking. Just Because she didn't, doesn't mean she didn't try her best and give us all she could.
My mom was a single mom after my dad left when I was 7. We ate a LOT of takeout mostly, because she worked. A lot. Not just at her job but against the stain that was my dad and his second wife who were constantly fighting her in court over the dumbest of craps. And because I was into sports. So, we ate takeout a lot because she just didn't have the mental energy to do a whole lot in the kitchen or deal with a crap ton of dishes late into the night. But she did her best with what she could. Because she loved me. Later I started to cook boxed meals, to at least try to contribute in the effort it takes to run a house.
Story 1 - OP NTA - So Daddy dearest try to play "father of the year" in front of his new family and it blew up in his face? Good on you for calling this man to his face. His new wife and his new kids needed to know what kind of AH really is. Story 2 - OP NTA - The last thing a scared parent needs is the "wisdom words" of someone that has NO clue what really raising a child is. This has nothing to do with her inability to have kids. Story 3 - OP YTA - Why don't you work on getting out that stick that you have in your butt and leave your son alone. Are you seriously having a conniption because your 22 y/o son is wearing Spiderman underwear? Seriously? Then I have the worst news for you, my husband is way, way, way older than your son and he has some character underwear... the horror. Get a life OP, there are worst things to worry about other than character underwear. Story 4 - OP NTA but you need to sit down and have an honest conversation with your son and explain to him why is so hard for you to do all the things that "Linda" does and why. Your son at this age doesn't understand that having two parents and a maid that cleans their house is NOT the same as being a single mother doing everything to provide him with a good life. He won't understand unless you explain it to him. Talk to him, communication is the key OP.
He is 16. If he doesn't understand or can't see that Sam's household is different compared to his own then he needs new eyes or a new brain because they are clearly not working. I knew from a very young age not to ask anything except; "Can I get this for my birthday?" or "Can I have this for Christmas?"
@@alphawolf2157 Yep. It peeves me that people shelter near adults from real life conversations, then expect them to know all the right stuff once they hit adulthood. Where is this kid's social awareness? Heck, where is his analytical skills? He can't see that his friend comes from a two parent home. Or that they sound more well off? What about the other friends? Linda wouldn't be feeding the friend group if they all had it like her son does. So if more than one kid is in the same situation as Leo, what the heck is Leo doing trying to keep up with the Joneses, so to speak?
@@alphawolf2157 The brains of 16 year olds aren’t exactly known for being super bright. Kids that age tend to be selfish twits, but you can parent them through that into generous adults.
Story #4: I would have SNATCHED Leo!! I don't work, come home to cook, clean and do laundry to have my kids snap at me. Show respect or get shown the brunt of my anger!!
Oh, the one comment “try a little harder” did he not hear that this is comparing a single mom to a two parent household with two incomes and a housekeeper she’s probably doing just about everything she can
Those ytas on story 4 really are doing too much. Kids will compare with their friends, but its up to parents to remind them that pushing for things you simply do not have the spoons for because someone else can do it is frigging rude. Id start asking why he isn't getting straight a's and acing track and field like my friends kid. Oh that's right, because we aren't all the same.
Story 4: I feel like reddit infantilises children a lot. Leo is 9, he’s 16 and is MORE than old enough to know NOT to talk to his mother like that. When i was his age i knew some kids had it better but i would never say that to my mom as it would have hurt her feelings. This is ridiculous, NTA OP that “YTA” commentor is ridiculous
Q? Why is it that after 18, 20, 21 or whatever the age in the country of origin, once you are legally considered an adult, everyone expects you to automatically turn into an ‘adult’ at midnight. Like it’s some magical spell; you are no longer a kid/teen with immature intellect, emotional, financial etc dependence, underdeveloped social ability, you are an adult with every tool already sharpened in your kit. Reddit people, it doesn’t work that way! Adults can still like things considered ‘for kids’ like Spider-Man, and hurt adults will often speak out in the same way as hurt teens.
I took my daughter and grandson to Disneyland this summer. I bought myself a pair of Boba Fett ears, I’m in my early 70’s. I’d be delighted if my 53 year old son had Spider-Man underwear. He dressed as Spider-Man two different Halloweens
LINDA DOES IT BETTER When my son did this I shut it down completely. I pointed out I worked 8 hours a day, had an hour commute, and had to take an hour for lunch because the business I worked for insisted on that schedule. I also pointed out he only went to school 6 hours a day and didn't do any extra-curriculars. I told him I will willingly cook. He had been doing his laundry for years but I started making him do the family laundry sheets, bedding, and towels. I also started making him do most of the house chores, dusting vacuuming, cleaning up after dinner, scrubbing the bathrooms, etc. Of course, he resisted and didn't like to do any of this. I told him I could do one or the other. I could do complicated, homecooked meals and bake cookies, cakes, desserts, etc. Since I couldn't afford a housekeeper somebody had to pick up the stuff I couldn't do in the house because I was cooking and baking. It took him a week before he told me he didn't want to do it anymore. I told him he couldn't have it both ways and to choose what he wanted me to do. He told me he liked it the way it was and we went back to normal. I also taught him to bake so he learned to do it for himself. It really angered me that I was being compared to a SAHM when I worked 8 hours a day.
Bruh, Leo is being bratty. I never said anything like he said my whole life. He needs to learn that people have different things in life and that he should be grateful for what he has. The way he talked to OP was rude and disrespectful. I guess OP is a bit of an idiot for her response.
Story abiut kid wanting homecooked meals: I guarantee the friend wished their parents bought takeout more often and Oreos. The grass is always greener on the other side. I'm gonna say NAH because they both have good points and are both bad at communication. The kid wants homecooked meals, and op hates feeling less than because she prefers convenience. Why can't they make a huge batch of cookie dough together, and the kid can back them when friends come over? Op shouldn't be at her kids' beck and call, but there's room for compromise. Kie do
EH, the kid got what he needed tbh. This wasn't some innocent 5-12 year old who might not know better. This was a 16-year-old. Nearly an adult. If he were younger, kindness and softness might have worked. But gentleness slides right off an already disrespectful near adult. A bit of humiliation or pain makes the lesson stick at that age.
@@Eppon6 i think tons of people forget that okey teens aren't fully developed yet but they aren't fools, we know we knew. i still remember being 16 and understand quite well my friends parents issues like divorce,single parents etc. and i'm saying this like someone who fought a lot with my mom. it's quite weird teens dosen't like some pizzas and stuff i don't know if because i came from other coutry but for my group junk food was "better" than home meals
@Eppon6 teens are usually pretty self-centered, though. In a greater sense, op's kid would probably 100% agree with his mom, but in his own world, he had a problem. The fact that he's 16 and doesn't already make dinner or snack for himself is a signal that op needs to help teach him. He's 2 years away from legally leaving the home and having to feed himself. My compromise would give the kid life skills, provide a bonding experience, and get him off op's back.
What I don't understand is why it's so hard for you to help your brother learn how to drive. You brother shouldn't have said that, but way to keep it going by continuously bringing it up. Tell him he hurt your feelings, but don't try to hurt his feelings back to "get even." That's childish.
I'm a 52 year old woman with grown children and five grandchildren and I sport Star Trek all day every day!! Every article of clothing I have has a Star Fleet insignia pin on it!!🖖🏾🖖🏾🖖🏾
Go to court with receipts & get custody. Where did her SS$ go? Poor Alice. What father? Bet he's lied to his new kids too. 2) What future kids, you should ask. Smack the bish! 3) if it makes him happy, MYOB! 4) Son is finding his feet. He will be sassy. Sit him down & compare the whole of the 2 famlies. Talk to him like an adult. Explain kindly, single mom vs 2 parent household/ income with hired help. He's old enough for facts. 5) teenagers can learn to apologize too. Sit & talk.🤞
As a person who grew up with home-cooked meals and home-bqked cookies, pizza night and Oreos was a once-in-a-blue moon treat. As an adult i probably over-appreciate my mom's cooking and criticize fast-food and junk food, but as a kid I would not have thought that way
S1 Judgement: NTA. Reason: Daniel checked out of his daughter's life but wants to play pretend! No! I would respond that Daniel has no one to blame but himself. Daniel needed to be drug over the coals publicly in order for him to understand that he has FAILED as Alice's parent, and that is EXACTLY what OP did. Daniel is the one who chose to deprive an innocent baby of her father, Daniel is the one who chose to take that job offer, Daniel is the one who SIGNED HIS RIGHTS AS ALICE'S FATHER AWAY. Under no circumstances should this man be pitied for the actions HE chose to take. It's also likely that Daniel's wife either doesn't know about Alice or that Daniel spun some tale that made him look like the aggrieved party. Where I his wife, I would be livid with him if I found out that he'd had a kid that he'd abandoned. And would be angry with him that he selfishly put himself first rather than the baby that just lost her mother. The baby that THEY created. I would them half wonder if He would do the same to our children and if he said, "of course not!" I'd call him a liar and cite Alice as proof. I would also congratulate OP and his wife on raising such a beautiful, outstanding girl. Her mom would be proud. _____________________________ S2 Judgement: NTA Reason: Giana should have kept her mouth shut. "Do you know what is also wildly insensitive? When a grown woman, who had no experience with raising a child, gives me an opinion on something that she has no genuine idea about. I will apologize for my insensitive comments so long as she apologizes for butting her nose in where it is not wanted." Giana should have kept her mouth shut. I would tell her that her constant critiques of other people's kids and how THEY choose to raise them is not only insensitive but completely uncalled for. _________________________________
First story : I would have looked at the wife and tell her she better hope one of her family members can take her kids in case something happened to her because I ain't helping them
I have a ton of Transformers, TMNT, band shirts, merch from podcasters, etc and you know what? PEOPLE LOVE THEM. I get complimented on my shirts all the time. Most importantly though I have a pair of fuzzy pink pj pants with little Eeyores all over them and they are my favorite PJ pants! I live to come home and wear them all winter. My mom gave them to me years ago and she has a matching pair. 🥰 Wear what you love as long as your not exposing yourself to others. OP needs to stop thinking about her son's underwear so much.
Im a 50 yr old woman listening to this asking if im not an adult because..COOKIE MONSTER! Pajama pants, shorts, one piece jumper, cookie jar. As well as Transformers. I pay my mortgage, bills, and get myself up for work..i think that's adulting!??? 😂🦋💜
"Linda likes to cook, I don't. It's probably a hobby of hers, and I applaud her for it, but I'd rather spend my free time doing something else. We could get a cookie dough tube and bake them up fresh? Those taste just as good as home-made"
NTA in the last story. It's weird how all the comments make it seem like there's a huge age/maturity gap between the two brothers. Saying a 21-year-old is some wise sage that should know better but a 15-year-old is too young and dumb to be held accountable is just dumb.
Man that man failed to understand that his daughter also lost a mother. Glad OP took care of her and became an actual father.
I think he somehow blames Alice for the death of her mother, if she wasn't pregnant they could've started treatment sooner, just a thought.
@@arleneclark6369 I get that feeling too
@@arleneclark6369 Well he impregnated his sick wife.
@@arleneclark6369 Strangely he doesn't blame himself bc he made her pregnant, just the daughter.
@@barbthegreat586 😂😂
“It would have only been disparaging if it wasn’t true.”
I like this kid. 😂
She’s counting down to 18 so she can properly tell her sperm do or exactly where he can shove himself… the verbal beating she is about to dish out to that loser might be fatal.
@@kateemma22When she finally does get to tell him to go to hell, it should be filmed and posted to every social media platform there is.
So do I. Although, if I'd been her, I would've followed up what OP said to him with, "Sorry, DANIEL, but MY DAD is right."
@@kateemma22 sperm do er! I Hope that wasn't a mistake or typo! You've just coined a new degradive phrase, the other is getting old & tired. A sperm donor is a good thing that doesn't get enough credit & if you can't father children of your own, you know how valuable it & you are. But a sperm do er (said with a less educated drawl) welll it says a lot. Also Instead of the worn out 'flying monkeys' I've been trying other comps like, winged primates or feathered apes. I already call the evil ones 'Stepmonster' & 'Monster in law' Karen needs a name change too, my mother in laws name is Karen but she's not, nor is she a monster in law!❤
Last Story: NTA. Giving teens a pass to say whatever they want is horrible. That’s partly why so many educators are leaving schools because parents don’t teach their kids that consequences happen for bad behavior.
I am a 37 year old woman who is listening to this in my batman pants. I am not embarrassed in the slightest. I will happily hang my superhero pants on the washing line. 😂
I’m 31 wearing Pokémon undies 😂 they’re comfy and I like the games
I'm a Boomer nerd, and I was wondering where I could get some Spiderman underwear.
I like my snoopy underwear... at 37
@@mbyerly9680 I Guess You'll have to use the internet and Google Woman's underwear???
My husband is almost 46, and proudly wears his Captain America boxer briefs. He also has Captain America pajama pants, and Deadpool socks. If I could find Marvel underwear for women, you better believe that I would be wearing it gladly, and I'm almost 45.
Of course, his fiancée isn’t worried about his character shirts and underwear; she bought it for him. The both love it and it’s probably why they are, ya know, getting married. They vibe so well.
Mom should be grateful he actually had on underwear 😂. The only person who could possibly care or criticize he's wearing Spiderman, Captain America, Batman or Green Lantern underwear is actually the person buying them for him.
Sure, however he claimed that the only one who sees his underwear is the one who buys it, but mommy dearest got to see it. I do not know what job OP's son has, but in any job he would be a laughing stock and probably would need to change job if someone saw his underwear. Let's face it "If you show something to the world then you can not be upset if you do not like the reaction"
@@JaneRHeartofGold I like an adult who doesn't give a rat's a** about what people think about what they wear. If someone else messed with him because they saw a bit of Spidy underwear, I could see him blandly saying, "And your point is?" If his his entire workplace tried to make him their laughing stock, he's in a toxic workplace and should update his resume for that and not for any embarrassment on his part.
@@JaneRHeartofGoldwhat? I'm 32 and I have Mandalorian/Star Wars themed socks. I'm seen as a professional in my job and have gotten complements on my socks from those twice my age.
Also with underwear, I'd fire back "why are you looking so closely at my undergarments?"
I once worked with a young lady who wore Pooh undies. Her SO wore Tigger undies, since Tigger pounces on Pooh. TMI but OK.
My mom left my dad when I was 10. I knew that things were tight and didn't complain cause i saw what my mom was doing just to make sure that there was food for me. She smetimes went days without eating to make sure i had food. When i went into high school i volunteered in the cafeteria at lunch to get free food so i didn't have to take food from home. At 16 i got a job to help my mom. I was thankful for everything she did and bought.
Yep. What you described is an emotionally well balanced person with enough maturity to see things in the right light. It's the complete opposite of Leo. Leo clearly doesn't have real problems. I mean if this is his hill to die on then it's no hill at all.
Leo story. NTA: He is wrong as hell for comparing you to his friend's mom. She tried the tact thing. She explained that she didnt have time in a tactful way. Sometimes when a kids is a brat you shut them down on their level.
I agree treat others the way u want to be treated.
He's 16, he's not a 'child'. Mom offered to help him make the cookies he wanted himself, but THAT was too much trouble for him. But not for her? NTA, he needed to be told in way that gets through.
Nice lesson yta, be submissive and teach your kids to be bratty like Leo. Reddit really loves to cater to bratty children. Leo needs to be taught to count his blessings rather than comparing to others
I FIND it strange THAT MOST PEOPLE SEEM to FORGET; THE OTHER FAMILY has a maid to do the cleaning AND A FATHER, to Help PUT FOOD ON TNE TABLE!!!!!
Yeah, OP is doing the work of Linda, Linda's husband, and the housekeeper.
NTA on the last story. My brother and I are 6 years apart and half siblings, though we didnt know this until I was 14 when our last remaining parent passed away.
My brother says things that cut and he's been allowed to under the excuse that "he's a teen, he'll grow out of it" whethet he said something hurtful to me, blamed me for trauma I wasnt part of, or just full on ignored my existance everyone said to just leave him be and he would grow out of it.
Well guess what? He's 24 and we havent spoken for over 4 years, and what little we spoke in the few years before were stilted. In our last talk he snapped at me for not caring or trying, even though I did and was ignored and told to just give him space.
The "teenager" excuse has to stop. They're old enough to be made to see when their actions and words are hurtful. If they're allowed to continue then it wont ever stop.
There are way too many excuses these days for kids and teenagers. It feels like parents want to be the best friend to their kids instead of ... well a parent.
@@Shimonotoki I think it's more that the. "Surly, angry teenager" thing is seen as normal. My brother and I were raised by grandparents, so it definitely wasnt a "parents these days" kind of thing. Rude teenagers are just seen as normal and allowed to be rude rather than reinforced that it isnt okay to act out inappropriately
@@Wandervenn You're right. That's also very common.
@@Wandervenn Yeah, this. I've seen people say that if a kid *doesn't* act out or rebel, then there's something wrong with them. Never mind that kids and teens need to learn some measure of respect for authority, especially if they have good parents.
Last story: when people say its immature to stoop to the level of a teenager during an argument is slightly delusional, if said teenager has the audacity to say that, then it's nothing more than accountability to put said person in their place! Oh whats that kid, you wanna act all big and mighty...whats this, now you're upset because I told you off 😂not so big now are you
Shame is one of the last tools in the toolbox that work on teens these days. Pull the mirror out and make them see their own behavior by mimicking what they've done? The "being a teenager" excuse needs to go away when they've been hurtful, because then they become adults without empathy who don't get why people despise them or wont' talk with them and they lash out and become worse a-holes.
Bro's embarrassed that what he said was hurtful and didn't like the sentiment reflected? Good--now he knows not to do that crap again. OP did it twice--yes--but bro also never apologized the first time. OP did it til he got an acknowledgement (I'd hesitate to call it an apology).
Had OP kept going even after an apology, then it 'd be in AH territory.
@@tallyp.7643 And bro kept asking for a favor after being an AH. Being a teenager is not a mental disability. You shouldn't get a pass for hateful behavior. I know several big brothers who would've opened some WhoopAss for mouthing off like that.
So before I was a mom I was a nanny and you learn very quickly that you never say ‘I will never…’ or ‘my kids will never…..’ so I’m wondering how good of a sitter Giana is if she is going around saying that all of the time. I feel like she is the kind of sitter that only takes the job if the kid will be asleep for 90% of the time you are with them.
This! You never know what your kids will do. It’s scary when I hear people make absolute statements about their kids. Sometimes they end up doing the unexpected. Instead of judging a parent who is trying to do their best, people should empathize or be part of the solution.
As soon as you say ‘my kids would never’. It’s about 100% certainty they will begin to ‘never’ like they never had before.
My brother was a perfect parent (pointed many things I was doing ‘wrong’), and then he became a parent. 🤣 I’ve really enjoyed that show.
Story 1: you do not have to censor your comments just because their other kids are meant to not know who their father is. They have every right to know their father ditched their sister when their mother died. I cannot imagine marrying someone who ditched their own kids & I certainly would never have kids with someone who abandoned their child particularly following the death of their mother.
those kids also need to know if their mother dies dad is gone like a thief in the night. but hey, at least they'll get a pen pal out of it. and like you said, how can a woman marry a man like that knowing full well if something happens to her the kids will be tossed aside.
The second wife was probably delighted to not have to deal with a stepdaughter so that the children that she had with him could take precedence in their lives🙁
@@faithlesshound5621 doesn't take rocket science to figure it out.
That OP would be so mad at the dinosaur boxer briefs i have on right now
2nd story I once read a comment on Twitter that said.... There are a lot of perfect parents out there, they just haven't had kids yet lol!
And that's why I'm the perfect parent!😂
Theoretical parents are almost always perfect.
Leo compared mothers
OP compared sons
That was the quickest way to show him what he was doing.
Wow, that commenter who said she should try harder - now THAT person is an AH. Linda works less hours, and has a housekeeper?? No bloody wonder she has time to cook. OP was right to shut Leo down. He was hurtful and hateful and could do with being less self-entitled. Time for him to grow some empathy!!!
Right, I'm not surprised by the opinions of some redditors. They wouldn't know reality if it smacked them in the face.
Leo is 16 years old. He definitely should have empathy, and he can learn how to make some cookies.
It feels like Leo has picked up some sexist theories that he's trying to apply to his mother... Otherwise, why would a 16 year old ignore a whole bunch of context as to why his mother's life is different than Linda's.
@@EnDB Right? I started cooking on my own at around 10 years old. Beyond helping other adults I mean. I'm not saying he needs to know how to cook. I'm wondering why he feels like his mom has to cater to him. How is this kid so unaware and spoiled?
I started cooking at the same age!
Last story: NTA so many teenagers now a days can’t even apologize when they mess up or have basic decency… OP is taking to much shit from his parents and brother!
Exactly my thoughts.
First story: To OP who stepped up and took in his niece after Daniel gave up all rights and ran away. I would have said this to Alice in front of him too just to be awesome (and even more spiteful),"He may have been your father dear, but he was never your daddy."
The ironic thing is that the Guardians of Galaxy 2 is playing on the TV while I read this comment.
OP NTA. I feel for the dad and Alice because of their loss. It wasn't something they had control over and isn't their fault. But what is bio dad's fault is dumping his young grieving daughter on someone else and running away instead of being the parent she needed. OP, you, your wife and children are totally awesome for talking Alice in and giving her the love and help she needed and treating her like family. I don't know if bio dad told his wife the truth or not but if they got married, they should have told Alice. The fact bio dad acted all upset she didn't hug and call him dad when she saw him makes me mad at him. OP you told the truth and we're protecting Alice. He doesn't get to waltz in and pretend he is dad after abandoning her for 14 yrs. Wife and other kids need to know too. When times get tough he will abandon his family and try to restart like nothing happened and still think he is owed dad of the year awards.
OP only way you would be YTA is if what you said was a lie. But since all of it was true and you were not defaming him, he got what he deserves. Keep protecting Alice and being there for her.
Haha…😂 the second story makes me laugh so hard, my sister said something like this when she was due to have her first at age 45, I asked her if she got any “baby proofing” for cabinets and such.. and her answer “no we are just going to tell him no” 😂😂😂😂😂 not to mention the next year, she practically pulled her arm out of the sockets “trying” to open up any cabinet in her house😂 I laughed every time😅
I didn't baby proof cabinets. 🤷🏽♀️
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like this "baby proofing" thing is strictly American thing, because I have never heard of anyone doing that - and I have close friends and family in multiple countries.
@@margaritap.9459 Oh dear, that's so untrue. We have an entire section of baby proofing stuff. From covers for sockets, to gates that are installed at the stairs so the baby don't go up/down when they start exploring. It's just common sense to keep them from situations where they might come to serious harm. And don't think just because you have something out of their reach, they won't be able to get it. Heck I have pictures of myself as a kid that show me after I had managed to climb the bookshelf and pull out all the magazines my parents had believed to be out of my reach. My sister bought a special fence so her kids couldn't go to close to the fireplace. Fire looks interesting to a toddler and she used it until her kids had learned that while fire looks pretty, it is hot and could hurt them. Believe me kids will explore and they are unable to properly recognize dangerous situations. And no matter how good a parent you are, you will never be able to prevent all the little stuff that might happen... but by baby proofing, you can ensure that it is only the little stuff that happens.
@@margaritap.9459 I think Americans are more prone to letting baby roam the house while Europeans are more prone to limiting how much of the house baby can explore.
It’s a shift I’ve seen in the US. We’ve shifted from putting kids in playpens to make the house as safe as the playpen.
We did the basics in our house. Covered outlets so kids can’t stick their fingers in. Put household chemicals in locked cabinets. Tether furniture to walls to keep them from tipping over if the kiddo decides to emulate a trek up Mt Everest. For our third kid, we had to install a chain on the front door that she couldn’t reach even if standing on a chair. She was absolutely determined to escape.
Oh wow!!! Cool, what a difference of opinions.. I’m live in the US but am from another country and have always had “baby proofing” as an option and a necessity, it gets drilled into out head’s every year how many babies are harmed by stairs, poison, burns….you name it, I had no idea that it was not universal…lol.
Giana and Tommy's mindset blows me away. Giana keeps my future kids, but gets upset with OP when she said what she said? Lawd people nowadays...
The ESH/YTA responses to the last 2 stories disturb me. Yes, an adult was rough to a teen nearing adulthood. You know what that result it had on the teen? They'll remember they disrespected someone who was once nice and it was NOT okay to do that because it can and will be turned around to haunt them. If they had done what Captain Hindsight in the comments claims and been soft and gentle and loving, that teen would have learned NOTHING. "I love you please don't hurt me" does jack all to a disrespectful teen who is looking down at the adults in their life for not giving them more. It just encourages them to be more disrespectful because they weren't harmed in any way. The slight sting of being humiliated in a very minor way is a lesson they will never forget.
I don't think a mushy conversation was necessary, but God forbid an adult man gave a little grace to a teenager. 🙄 Bringing it up once was enough, the second time made him a jerk
@@mysteryfan15 Okay, so this is a person getting ready to be responsible for a car. This is a person that knew enough to say something in a way that he knew would hurt the other person's feelings. This is a person that is 3 short years away from legal adulthood. Why does he need grace again? People learn that words can hurt in freaking preschool. Does you really think that this boy has never learned about hurtful words and actions prior to now? What the heck were you doing at 15 that you feel he is too feebleminded to be held accountable for his own words?
@@mysteryfan15 The teenager could have apologized after the first retour. Than a second wouldn't have been necessary. He learned a very valuable lesson: actions have consequences. And he will remember that.
@Y’vaan it’s called being the adult. Talk about your feelings don’t just make ahole comments.
@YN Monroe I'm glad you've never said things you regret in the heat of anger, but most humans haven't been so fortunate. And op did it twice, so why would the teenager be the only ahole? At the very least, it's ESH.
Story #3: OP is desperately out of touch with reality. A good chunk of the population do wear cartoon underwear to go with their cartoon socks and cartoon shirts. I got cartoon socks for Christmas (Ren & Stimpy) and I plan on wearing them this summer. By the by, I also have a Looney Tune tie as well. Oh and OP is a massive YTA.
i love ren and stimpy!!! classics
Yeah first of all your grown sons underwear is none of your business, that's just weird, also if adults weren't meant to wear super hero garb, they wouldn't make them in adult sizes.
If she were my co-worker she'd probably lose what's left of her mind. I'm over 50 and have been known to wear Hogwarts sweaters to the office on a regular basis and my hand knit scarf is Hufflepuff. No one has a problem with it. Heck, I even knit a really nice Gryffindor scarf for a co-worker's RETIRED husband.
I myself would pay good money to get some Goofy Goober underwear from the Spongebob movie.
Single mom story. She could say. Why don't you make those cookies for your friends yourself? You're old enough abd smart enough to do so.
With his attitude, he's going to say that's a woman's job or say "Linda can do it, why can't you?"
She did suggest he make the cookies himself. His response was to ask what was for dinner.
That commenter who called the single mom's food "thoughtless" needs to take a flying leap! Yes, she could've handled the situation better, but she seems like a good mom doing the best she can.
The last YTA sounds like a spoiled brat living in his mom's basement. Imagine Eric Cartman @ 25 (ahuddering)
There's a book "How to Keep House While Drowning" where the basic premise is that there are Important Things and then there's everything else. When you don't have the extra energy/spoons to do more things, you put them aside and focus on the important things.
Is the kid getting food? Is it relatively the right amount of calories and nutrition? Then it doesn't matter if it's homemade or store-bought or deli or fast food. It's food. "Fed is best."
Personally, if I had a little time to spend, I'd start the kid learning cooking. Give him homework of looking up two Struggle Meals episodes a night (they're short) and deciding on one meal a week that he can try to make. Then work with him to figure out the ingredients and make a list, and take him shopping. Help him figure out how to price things, get good deals, avoid name brands.
Then help him portion everything out, pack up what he's not gonna use, get the pans and dishes ready, and actually get to work on the meal.
After a few weeks of making meals, he likely won't think it's so easy to just come up with something. And he'll be able to invite his friends over for homemade cookies and pizza or pasta -- that *he* made.
(Heck, colorful pasta is super easy: cook noodles, put in ziplock bag, add a couple drops of food coloring and a tablespoon of water, shake it up. You can make a white cheese sauce and color that however you like. Simple and kid-friendly.)
Leo's mom story the YTAs are all out of line. It is perfectly reasonable to give him a piece of his own medicine when it comes to verbal exhange.
He was old enough to know his comparisons are to hurt or coerce his mom into doing things to impress his friends. It wasn't out of a genuine need to feel loved and cared for like the "can you just try a little harder?" comment.
That said, he is also old enough to start taking charge of things like cooking and cleaning and I bet she didn't get him on it because she felt obligated to always provide and has in turned raised a spoiled teen.
If he wants cookies he can bake them himself. If he wants an impressive home cooked meal he can help.
In the end him comparing her to a relative super mom deserved him being compared to a relative super son. He deserved that serving of humble pie.
She could bake cookies with her son or do homemade pizza the kids could help with.
She doesn’t needed to be just like Sam’s mom but from the sound of it her kid wants more then delivered pizzas and cookies from a store.
@@tracim3080 she makes the meal prep boxes, pasta, and chicken- it's not like she orders pizza every night. He wants something special made from scratch-- he can make it himself. My mom doesn't cook, so I don't ask her to make things she's not comfortable making. Teens aren't really considerate, but considering how many times she's had to brush off the garbage comments he's made, I'm not surprised OP snapped. I would've told him to make his own dinner. Kid doesn't need to be coddled. NTA
@@rachelranderson what did you hear?
Leo: "Comparing people to other people is mean and disrespectful."
Agreed, which is why when Leo did it, him getting his feelings hurt was a great lesson.
Story 4 NTA op is a single working mom obviously she can't do all the things the other parents can do. It would be good to follow this up with a conversation about if he feels like he's neglected but no kid should talk to their parents like that
The YTA commenter.....remove from the gene pool, please.
Yeah if he doesn't want to be compared to Sam then maybe he should stop comparing his mom to Sam's mom. At 16 he's old enough to know better, he can see the situations are different, Sams mom has a housekeeper and a spouse.
The last commenter obviously lives in a two parent family who could afford to have one parent stay home and cook all the time. So their perception is obviously skewed
I can't believe OP is worried about her adult son wearing character t-shirts and underwear. He and his fiancé are not the only ones buying and wearing them. They wouldn't be made and sold if adults weren't buying them. OP is the one who needs to grow up. She's the one embarrassed by it her son isn't.
At 14 the kid should know and understand the situational difference between his home and his friends home. Why can’t the 14 yo bake cookies himself? The kid is a bit spoiled. Pretty sure he wouldn’t speak like that to his parent if op was a single dad instead.
Wasn't he 16?
Story 1, NTA. The guy Definitely told his wife and kids lies to make himself look better. He definitely didn't tell them the truth that's for sure. Good on op for telling him off and it was a good thing that it was Infront of the wife and kids so they now see him for what he really is.
I'm wondering if Wifey and the new kids even know about her.
Everyone seems to miss the fact that he didn’t even invite her to the wedding. That is way beyond insane.
2:28 They didn’t even tell op that Daniel would be there! They can all just shut right up!
So the boy is 15 and “old enough to know better”, but he should get a pass. Nah. Maybe OP’s father and step mother should have raised a better kid that isn’t an AH to his older brother when he NEEDS him
I'm so glad that some companies are finally realizing that it's not just little kids that want light up shoes, characters on their clothing, or other fun things to wear. xD
The speed at which I would have been thrown out of my parent's house and told to go live with Lynda would give me whiplash if I _ever_ spoke to my mother the way Leo spoke to OP. And all these comments saying "don't compare Leo to this other kid!" are completely ignoring the fact that Leo compared his mother to that exact same family? He's old enough to learn about glass houses.
Gina is absolutely the kind of parent that will abuse tf out of her kids for not complying with the perfect image she has for them and making her look like a less than perfect parent.
I love that XO just reads the post, a few comments, and doesn't put in his own comments, doesnt chat to us, just straight reads the posts and comments without sharing his own opinion.
But i love that you can hear from his tone whilst reading and the occasional chuckle when he's reading something he finds ridiculous 🤣
The minute Leo called OP lazy, he would have had all privileges taken away. No friends would be coming over for a while. He also would be helping with dinner since he seems to think its not that hard. Kids will disrespect you if you let them so he needs to be taught he can't do it to OP.
Last Story - 15 is plenty old enough to know *words hurt!* OP is NTA and I’m shocked none of the commentors think so 😤😤😤
What a weird comment that person said about the single mom and her ungrateful kid.
"Why don't you just try to cook more, you're jealous" followed by "Have a conversation about how different people do different things".
What even is your point.
For the story after that, I don't believe in "be the bigger person" nor "don't stoop to their level". Actions have consequences, and if you didn't know that as a teen it's about time you learn.
If the kid wants to say they aren't actual brothers, he doesn't get to back out with a "he's just a teen" excuse when it comes to bite him.
He's a kid, that's exactly why you can't let 'em off with a "they're just kids". They need to be raised right or they'll act likes kids when they're adults.
OP YTA that was the most funniest thing I read. As long as the underwear works properly, fits correctly it doesn't matter what they look like as long as they can't be seen through clothes. People like different types of underwear, colors, ect. Doesn't really matter as long as they are flashing their underwear to others.
13:46 this commenter is nuts. The ridiculous assumption that the OP cares less is way out of line.
Dang i didn't know onces you hit your 20s you aren't allow to feel hurt from someone's hurtful words.
Anyone who says, "My future kids won't" is going to regret those words when the Karma fairy strikes when they do have kids.
Everyone is a "perfect parent" until they have children.
Story home meals: NTA, why does the single mom who works long hours have to do extra work for a 16y… That kid entitled and lazy! The comparison isn’t even accurate the kid needed a reality check and OP gave it.
You know who was planning and cooking meals for the family when I was 16? The 16 year old.
Last story: Meh, NTA, honestly. Time to see that actions have consequences and words have lasting effects. Even if little bro didn't actually mean it and was just using hurtful words to get his way, it still wouldn't have been an asshole move if OP even kicked it up a notch and stopped all brotherly things. Kid "disowned" OP first, let's see how he likes it when something actually happens in response to his words.
Well of course the household with 3 adults can find time to do homemade meals and baking. The single Mom working full-time is short a couple of people to accomplish the same amount of work in any given day.
Story 1: NTA. His wife dies and he basically ABANDONED HIS CHILD WHO LOST HER MOTHER TOO, married another woman and didn’t even let his child MEET HER LET ALONE INVITE HER TO THE WEDDING, had two other children with the new wife and ONLY SENT MONEY AND EXCHANGED LETTERS WITH HIS FIRST CHILD. and he expected nobody to call him a deadbeat?!
how strange the people on the internet always say the parents must buckle to their rude kids the kids are not in charge here that is why they are always getting in trouble, and i know that kids that come out of two parents house hold still go out there and do messed up shit pk
Single mother NTA, I was raised in a single mother household me and my sister and we were seven years apart so by the time I was a teenager my sister had moved out. My mother used to call me up and tell me to start dinner, and she explain to me how to do it. I felt like that was normal and I learned stuff I never compared my life to other peoples and said oh, your mom does better than mine. I just observed other peoples household I would’ve never told my mother you don’t love me because you’re not doing what XYZ is mother is doing.
Spider man story, the op is one of those ppl that believe that once you hit 18 you give up all "childish" things because you're an "adult" now. Nothing but beige and grays for you, no bright colors, no joy. And that type of person is sad on the inside
Love the “Karen voice” XO uses in story 3! 😂
Always fun when the voice morphs mid story.
That underwear story I love the amount of effort XO put into it😂
Last story NTA...15 year olds are old and conscious enough to know what their actions and what they say does to other people but op could've always thought before he spoke too
Don't you just LOVE the comment telling the single working Mom that feeding her son PRE-COOKED and easy fix meals means she ISNT trying hard enough or showing him enough love?
"Have a mom that REALLY CARES!" JFCOAPS
My Mom was a single parent who tried her best and I KNEW she worked liked crazy, yet she wasn't someone who did a lot of home cooking. Just Because she didn't, doesn't mean she didn't try her best and give us all she could.
The kicker for me was "can't you try a little harder?" That commenter needs to jump into the sea.
@@pompe221 You've got that right!
My mom was a single mom after my dad left when I was 7. We ate a LOT of takeout mostly, because she worked. A lot. Not just at her job but against the stain that was my dad and his second wife who were constantly fighting her in court over the dumbest of craps. And because I was into sports.
So, we ate takeout a lot because she just didn't have the mental energy to do a whole lot in the kitchen or deal with a crap ton of dishes late into the night. But she did her best with what she could. Because she loved me. Later I started to cook boxed meals, to at least try to contribute in the effort it takes to run a house.
Story 1 - OP NTA - So Daddy dearest try to play "father of the year" in front of his new family and it blew up in his face? Good on you for calling this man to his face. His new wife and his new kids needed to know what kind of AH really is.
Story 2 - OP NTA - The last thing a scared parent needs is the "wisdom words" of someone that has NO clue what really raising a child is. This has nothing to do with her inability to have kids.
Story 3 - OP YTA - Why don't you work on getting out that stick that you have in your butt and leave your son alone. Are you seriously having a conniption because your 22 y/o son is wearing Spiderman underwear? Seriously? Then I have the worst news for you, my husband is way, way, way older than your son and he has some character underwear... the horror. Get a life OP, there are worst things to worry about other than character underwear.
Story 4 - OP NTA but you need to sit down and have an honest conversation with your son and explain to him why is so hard for you to do all the things that "Linda" does and why. Your son at this age doesn't understand that having two parents and a maid that cleans their house is NOT the same as being a single mother doing everything to provide him with a good life. He won't understand unless you explain it to him. Talk to him, communication is the key OP.
He is 16. If he doesn't understand or can't see that Sam's household is different compared to his own then he needs new eyes or a new brain because they are clearly not working. I knew from a very young age not to ask anything except; "Can I get this for my birthday?" or "Can I have this for Christmas?"
@@alphawolf2157 Yep. It peeves me that people shelter near adults from real life conversations, then expect them to know all the right stuff once they hit adulthood. Where is this kid's social awareness? Heck, where is his analytical skills? He can't see that his friend comes from a two parent home. Or that they sound more well off? What about the other friends? Linda wouldn't be feeding the friend group if they all had it like her son does. So if more than one kid is in the same situation as Leo, what the heck is Leo doing trying to keep up with the Joneses, so to speak?
@@alphawolf2157 The brains of 16 year olds aren’t exactly known for being super bright. Kids that age tend to be selfish twits, but you can parent them through that into generous adults.
Story #4: I would have SNATCHED Leo!! I don't work, come home to cook, clean and do laundry to have my kids snap at me. Show respect or get shown the brunt of my anger!!
Oh, the one comment “try a little harder” did he not hear that this is comparing a single mom to a two parent household with two incomes and a housekeeper she’s probably doing just about everything she can
Those ytas on story 4 really are doing too much. Kids will compare with their friends, but its up to parents to remind them that pushing for things you simply do not have the spoons for because someone else can do it is frigging rude. Id start asking why he isn't getting straight a's and acing track and field like my friends kid. Oh that's right, because we aren't all the same.
I would remind my child that I am not Linda and if he talked to me like that he would be punished. STOP enabling your children.
The parent about the underwear was ridiculous 😂
Imagine if they learned about cosplay, they'd be pissed adults still dress up as characters not on Halloween
Meanwhile my mom "you know what would be funny? Buying your brother Godzilla undies!"
Story 4: I feel like reddit infantilises children a lot. Leo is 9, he’s 16 and is MORE than old enough to know NOT to talk to his mother like that. When i was his age i knew some kids had it better but i would never say that to my mom as it would have hurt her feelings.
This is ridiculous, NTA OP that “YTA” commentor is ridiculous
‘Daniel hasn’t been the best father’ well, see, now that implies he is a father at all. He isn’t.
Q? Why is it that after 18, 20, 21 or whatever the age in the country of origin, once you are legally considered an adult, everyone expects you to automatically turn into an ‘adult’ at midnight. Like it’s some magical spell; you are no longer a kid/teen with immature intellect, emotional, financial etc dependence, underdeveloped social ability, you are an adult with every tool already sharpened in your kit. Reddit people, it doesn’t work that way!
Adults can still like things considered ‘for kids’ like Spider-Man, and hurt adults will often speak out in the same way as hurt teens.
That's my favorite, 2 months ago they were asking permission to use the bathroom but now they're training to be soldiers
I took my daughter and grandson to Disneyland this summer. I bought myself a pair of Boba Fett ears, I’m in my early 70’s. I’d be delighted if my 53 year old son had Spider-Man underwear. He dressed as Spider-Man two different Halloweens
LINDA DOES IT BETTER When my son did this I shut it down completely. I pointed out I worked 8 hours a day, had an hour commute, and had to take an hour for lunch because the business I worked for insisted on that schedule. I also pointed out he only went to school 6 hours a day and didn't do any extra-curriculars. I told him I will willingly cook. He had been doing his laundry for years but I started making him do the family laundry sheets, bedding, and towels. I also started making him do most of the house chores, dusting vacuuming, cleaning up after dinner, scrubbing the bathrooms, etc. Of course, he resisted and didn't like to do any of this. I told him I could do one or the other. I could do complicated, homecooked meals and bake cookies, cakes, desserts, etc. Since I couldn't afford a housekeeper somebody had to pick up the stuff I couldn't do in the house because I was cooking and baking. It took him a week before he told me he didn't want to do it anymore. I told him he couldn't have it both ways and to choose what he wanted me to do. He told me he liked it the way it was and we went back to normal. I also taught him to bake so he learned to do it for himself. It really angered me that I was being compared to a SAHM when I worked 8 hours a day.
Last story-I was a kid with a cooking sahm. You could not fathom how much I would have loved chef boyardee, tv dinners and store bought cookies. 😄
S4 NTA your son doesn't respect or appreciate your role in his life. Teenage angst doesn't mean a lack of understanding.
If I did what Leo did.. hell would have broken loose in our house. He's 16 needs a smack to the face.
Bruh, Leo is being bratty. I never said anything like he said my whole life. He needs to learn that people have different things in life and that he should be grateful for what he has. The way he talked to OP was rude and disrespectful. I guess OP is a bit of an idiot for her response.
OMG just wait until that mom finds out about Star Wars and Marvel business ties. The patterns are so subtle you'd never know.
ok who else heard about adult character underwear and went looking excitedly
Story abiut kid wanting homecooked meals: I guarantee the friend wished their parents bought takeout more often and Oreos. The grass is always greener on the other side.
I'm gonna say NAH because they both have good points and are both bad at communication. The kid wants homecooked meals, and op hates feeling less than because she prefers convenience. Why can't they make a huge batch of cookie dough together, and the kid can back them when friends come over? Op shouldn't be at her kids' beck and call, but there's room for compromise.
Kie do
EH, the kid got what he needed tbh. This wasn't some innocent 5-12 year old who might not know better. This was a 16-year-old. Nearly an adult. If he were younger, kindness and softness might have worked. But gentleness slides right off an already disrespectful near adult. A bit of humiliation or pain makes the lesson stick at that age.
@@Eppon6 i think tons of people forget that okey teens aren't fully developed yet but they aren't fools, we know we knew. i still remember being 16 and understand quite well my friends parents issues like divorce,single parents etc.
and i'm saying this like someone who fought a lot with my mom. it's quite weird teens dosen't like some pizzas and stuff i don't know if because i came from other coutry but for my group junk food was "better" than home meals
@Eppon6 teens are usually pretty self-centered, though. In a greater sense, op's kid would probably 100% agree with his mom, but in his own world, he had a problem. The fact that he's 16 and doesn't already make dinner or snack for himself is a signal that op needs to help teach him. He's 2 years away from legally leaving the home and having to feed himself. My compromise would give the kid life skills, provide a bonding experience, and get him off op's back.
Story 1: so now the current wife knows what will happen to her daughters if she gets sick and dies. Forewarning is never bad!
The pants story has me laughing. I wear character shirts and undies and I'm 34 😂
7:59 that mother was so ridiculous that even XO chuckled at her
OP said 'If he can't afford normal underwear' hehehe‼️ I'll Bet his character underwear costs more than whatever mommy chooses for him to wear!😂
What I don't understand is why it's so hard for you to help your brother learn how to drive. You brother shouldn't have said that, but way to keep it going by continuously bringing it up. Tell him he hurt your feelings, but don't try to hurt his feelings back to "get even." That's childish.
Because not everyone can teach. Plus it was snowing and he didn't want the brother driving his car in those conditions
I'm a 52 year old woman with grown children and five grandchildren and I sport Star Trek all day every day!! Every article of clothing I have has a Star Fleet insignia pin on it!!🖖🏾🖖🏾🖖🏾
I'm 57 and I have a Star Trek DS9 T-shirt (LOVE DR. BASHIR!)
@@nancyomalley6286 My favorite DS9 episode is "In The Pale Light"!! Love Captain Sisko!!
@@yvonnefobbs6232 Mine is "OUR MAN BASHIR"!
Go to court with receipts & get custody. Where did her SS$ go? Poor Alice. What father? Bet he's lied to his new kids too. 2) What future kids, you should ask. Smack the bish! 3) if it makes him happy, MYOB! 4) Son is finding his feet. He will be sassy. Sit him down & compare the whole of the 2 famlies. Talk to him like an adult. Explain kindly, single mom vs 2 parent household/ income with hired help. He's old enough for facts. 5) teenagers can learn to apologize too. Sit & talk.🤞
As a person who grew up with home-cooked meals and home-bqked cookies, pizza night and Oreos was a once-in-a-blue moon treat. As an adult i probably over-appreciate my mom's cooking and criticize fast-food and junk food, but as a kid I would not have thought that way
Last story: I'm glad that last comment pointed out the brother hadn't given a sincere apology.
S1 Judgement: NTA.
Reason: Daniel checked out of his daughter's life but wants to play pretend!
No! I would respond that Daniel has no one to blame but himself. Daniel needed to be drug over the coals publicly in order for him to understand that he has FAILED as Alice's parent, and that is EXACTLY what OP did. Daniel is the one who chose to deprive an innocent baby of her father, Daniel is the one who chose to take that job offer, Daniel is the one who SIGNED HIS RIGHTS AS ALICE'S FATHER AWAY. Under no circumstances should this man be pitied for the actions HE chose to take.
It's also likely that Daniel's wife either doesn't know about Alice or that Daniel spun some tale that made him look like the aggrieved party. Where I his wife, I would be livid with him if I found out that he'd had a kid that he'd abandoned. And would be angry with him that he selfishly put himself first rather than the baby that just lost her mother. The baby that THEY created. I would them half wonder if He would do the same to our children and if he said, "of course not!" I'd call him a liar and cite Alice as proof.
I would also congratulate OP and his wife on raising such a beautiful, outstanding girl. Her mom would be proud.
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S2 Judgement: NTA
Reason: Giana should have kept her mouth shut.
"Do you know what is also wildly insensitive? When a grown woman, who had no experience with raising a child, gives me an opinion on something that she has no genuine idea about. I will apologize for my insensitive comments so long as she apologizes for butting her nose in where it is not wanted."
Giana should have kept her mouth shut. I would tell her that her constant critiques of other people's kids and how THEY choose to raise them is not only insensitive but completely uncalled for.
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Story two - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 BURN !
Another bully got their butt handed to them !
Story #1 - The wife knows that man doesn't want his daughter and is fine with it. Otherwise she'd be fighting to have that girl in their lives.
First story : I would have looked at the wife and tell her she better hope one of her family members can take her kids in case something happened to her because I ain't helping them
Story 3 yta. As long as they're clean and he's not wearing on the outside of his clothes then there's no problem. Mind your own business
I have a ton of Transformers, TMNT, band shirts, merch from podcasters, etc and you know what? PEOPLE LOVE THEM. I get complimented on my shirts all the time. Most importantly though I have a pair of fuzzy pink pj pants with little Eeyores all over them and they are my favorite PJ pants! I live to come home and wear them all winter. My mom gave them to me years ago and she has a matching pair. 🥰 Wear what you love as long as your not exposing yourself to others. OP needs to stop thinking about her son's underwear so much.
Dang, I wouldn't care less about their underwear. I'd just be so happy that my kid found someone who loves every silly bit about him 😊
Im a 50 yr old woman listening to this asking if im not an adult because..COOKIE MONSTER! Pajama pants, shorts, one piece jumper, cookie jar. As well as Transformers. I pay my mortgage, bills, and get myself up for work..i think that's adulting!??? 😂🦋💜
Good for Daniel who'll never find out what OP's wife would've said or done if it were her tasked to drop off Alice to brother's house.
Story 1: “Hasn’t been the best father”? Boy, this has to be the understatement of the year!😒
I bought sponge bob boxer’s for my husband in his fourties’ 😂😂 shocking 😂😂😂😂😂
"Linda likes to cook, I don't. It's probably a hobby of hers, and I applaud her for it, but I'd rather spend my free time doing something else. We could get a cookie dough tube and bake them up fresh? Those taste just as good as home-made"
That my kids won't have tantrums story😂good luck this lady doesn't obviously doesn't spend a lot of time with kids including her nephew
That last comment, "tell dad to mind his business". His children, particularly the minor ARE his business
NTA in the last story. It's weird how all the comments make it seem like there's a huge age/maturity gap between the two brothers. Saying a 21-year-old is some wise sage that should know better but a 15-year-old is too young and dumb to be held accountable is just dumb.
My brother's adopted and I would never even in anger tell my brother that he's not my brother. I've been in many arguments with my brother
Wow that last comment on the first one was fucked up that is a single mom
My future kids will never act like that.
Taking all bets folks.