Which White Oil Paint is Best for Artists' Use
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2017
- In this video I discuss the various whites used for oil painting.
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"Lead white. It's toxic, so you don't want to eat it.." great advice. I'll stick to eating the titanium from now on.
Bob Wilson well you could.
Robert Ellis Some recent studies suggest the titanium white contained in food and toothpaste may be toxic. I'm sure you can find the (reputable) source on the net very easily, I don't remember it now.
Bob Wilson
Lol! Btw, wasn't Bob Wilson the Arsenal goalkeeper many years ago?
as someone who has a horrible, disgusting, unexplainable habit of putting paint covered brushes in my mouth, this is very important advice
My dog ate some bc she thought it was ice cream :/ shes ok, she just threw up for 3 days
I worked in animation and the production required a lot of snow covered landscapes. I remember the ex - Disney director telling the background painters " paint the snow any colour you like - except white ! ".
So very true.
Cheers, from Canada! ☮︎
then what color would you use
Yep, how can snow be white when it’s illuminated by the the light temperature of the sun at a particular time of day. We see it as white because our vision compensates towards pure white - if you look at some of the impressionist paintings - snow is many colours but never pure white.
@@mememanfresh white with yellow, what he meant is never use pure white, the same applies for black, the light always exist so purity of white and black is not possible.perhaps you may use a pure black in black backgrounds but there is always a light source of light.
That Winsor and Newton Flake white at 0:11 isn't a lead white as it's Flake White Hue. A mix of titanium white and zinc white. At sometime in the early Eighties their Flake White became a mixed lead white and zinc white. At the same time, they added Cremnitz White to their range, which was like their earlier Flake white. That is to say Lead white only. Then about 2016/17 Winsor and Newton stopped lead white production. Though it's always possible there's still some old stock out there in a shop somewhere.
You have a great channel BTW.
I thought it was Titanium and lead mixture not titanium and zinc?? Now I have to figure out which it is.
Just wanted to say, Mark...yours is one of the most informative RUclips channels (and your website, too!) for artists wanting to get familiar with oil painting mediums & techniques. Thanks for sharing your experiences & expertise!
totally agree!
The most peculiar characteristic of lead white is perhaps the slight pearlescent effect when used in impasto, it might have been interesting to mention it. Thanks for your videos!
When I did a test of several white oil paints, the Geneva titanium white yellowed the most and the quickest of all the others. I've been the happiest with Rublev and Michael Harding's lead whites--MH's stack lead white is absolutely brilliant, albeit, quite expensive. As far as titanium goes, Old Holland's is of exceptional quality.
I would guess, it depends on the additives, colors, and whether put out into extreme moisture, sunlight or darkness, cold or heat, for long periods of time?
Old Holland stuff is great. So is rublev.
LEAD YELLOWS FAR MORE THAN TITANIUM WHITE. look at the demonstrations and color swatches. any perceivable difference in line seed oil paints is forgotten when you see whites turn orange because they are lead!
ruclips.net/video/oKrU2n02a7s/видео.html
the part of the video towards the end when he shows white paints. see for yourself!
It's not about how brilliant white the paint is. It's how white it stays that is important.
Bingo!!
I put both titanium white and lead outside for a couple of years! Titanium turned a yellow ochre color and the lead white got whiter! Even without linseed oil the titanium got yellowish!
What a great teacher, I wish he was my neighbor.
What a great neighbor, I wish he was my teacher
I bet he doesn't! He'd be on the driveway building something and you'd distract him with copious amounts of lager!
And ask him to critique your paintings... hehe…♥
Thank you Mark for all you do! Sharing your knowledge and experience with us freely. Your style is easiest for me and my friends who are disabled. Chair and wheelchair bound with hand and/or arm weaknesses. Thanks!
I feel like I have finally found a teacher! Some of these concepts are alittle hard to get down, but I will!!!! I have started to re-watch a class every morning, because each has such a wealth of knowledge. Thank You!!!
Just started painting and you are the best instructor I have watched thanks
The advantage of Zinc white is for mixing to obtain the most vivid pigment as possible with less “pastel” looks.
Also, the use of a Liquin or Galkyd will speed drying and increase strength and flexibility and less yellowing as far as I know.
i was gonna say! i am trying to paint this red portrait dramatic lighting now, titanium white made it way too pastel for my lit up areas. going to switch to Zinc now and try it out with liquin.
@@denizkaptan5482 Try glazing over the areas that have turned out too dull, trust me, it'll be beautiful! No unstable Zinc White necessary
archivable zinc white is not,
Hmm, are you _sure_ about the flake white there containing lead? It's a little blurry at the start of the video with the tubes but it seems to have an extra word on the end - which I'm guessing is "hue". These days, as I understand, W&N only produce Flake White Hue which is a mixture of PW4 (Zinc) and PW6 (Titanium Dioxide). At least on their site, and at my local art store, true lead-containing flake white (PW1) isn't possible to get in the W&N range.
What matters though is that if you have a really pigmented titanium white or not. I have been facing this issue where I could not reach the kind of highlight that I wanted and decided to change the brand and move to another one which I have used in the past. I don't have access to Geneva but have to get a good pigmented white.
I've permanently switched to lead (PW1 (preferably with safflower) for it's more balanced warmth, purity, stiffness, glaze effects, drying, easy mix for flesh tones, etc.
That's the the same way I think about the whites! Tired of having titanium turn a yellow ochre! The toxicity of flake white is way overrated! Can't buy flake white anymore! Got scammed online - did get one tube, but was as hard as a rock! Couldn't return. Out of about $90 dollars! Any suggestions,?
I love videos that debunk.
Also, glad you're swamped with orders! 🙂
I was painting a portrait of blond woman in white sweater, from photo taken in sunlight. I couldn't find a white that was white enough as in the photo. So when I put white from the tube on my photo paper it is always yellower, this was in daylight.
Thank you for investing your keen observational skills with your ability to articulate what you see into this video. Also, I appreciate that you distilled the information to what is truly relevant.
I have had a problem with white in metal tubes. Residue from the inside of the tubes add a greyishness to the white which is a problem if you want a warm white! I prefer the plastic tubes for that reason.
Thanks Mark. Can't wait for the next videos.
The same notion applies to using mediums such as amber varnish. People say it is too dark, but once mixed in to colors, it is hardly noticed.
Probably the best video I've seen on the different whites and the misconceptions arising from tonal differences. I do use lead white when I can get it, but that's a) because I value the strength of the paint film it confers, especially when it's ground in and used with Linseed Oil, and b) because I like the feel of it on the brush. I sometimes mix it with Titanium -- but never with Zinc. And the reversal of yellowing - I didn't use to believe that putting a painting in the window could reverse yellowing whites, but - it can!
Cool! Thanks for that!
I found you again Robert!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I have the Geneva colours which I bought last year. Please can you let me know what is the life shelf of them? Do I need to shake the tube before I squeeze out the colour in case the oil has separated over time?
What a blessing it is to know that you don’t need to use turpentine to keep your brush clean while you’re painting and Oil thanks
Can't seem to buy turpentine anymore as stores quit selling it. Toxicity? Pure bullshit! Maybe a few people think so! Where can I get it nowadays? The greatist artist in the world used it. No complaints then.
Thanks for this info..very helpful when new to oil paint
You're amazing. Love your videos.
Wow I just realized that your pallet is a maybe a glass table that can slide close to you how cool is that please let me know where I can get one or better yet make one
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, my work has become better beyond my dreams from watching your videos. Keep 'em coming.
Mark, thank you so much for the video and clarifying the issues over the whites. Are you familiar with the Munsell colors? What are your thoughts about it? I would love to hear your opinion. I recently discover it and I'm studying it. Thanks again.
It is, as usual, a very clear way of showing, how you can work very nuanced with a very limited palet. I love that advanced and sensitive simplicity - great video and for the fine Q&A series
Any thoughts on whites made with walnut oil?
I don't care if Lead White is the best paint in the world and it has magical properties beyond my wildest dreams - I just don't want to work with lead. I hope replacement flake whites keep getting better! I only ever used titanium white in undergrad, I'm excited to explore more whites. Thanks for the demonstration.
I usually use Gamblin paints and mediums but I'm gonna give these Geneva products a shot, thanks I really like your tutorial on whites and the comparisons. The old masters used lead based flake white, well you can see what Van Gogh went through. Thanks D M P.
Good is that. I learned a lot. Thank You!
Draw Mix Paint I build ukule's for fun like try different paint finishes on them and different finishes in general. Think flake white lead look good on a ukulele. Do they make those lead oil paints different colors? Are head lead paint even though it''s toxic it was durable is that true?
Can you get Geneva paint in usa
You are correct, pretty much all commercial grade white paint, like the hardware store paint you showed, use Titanium White as the pigment.
Some art websites recommend poppy seed oil for whites, light blues, light pinks and some other light colors, because it tends to yellow much less by the time than linseed oil.
What if we mix titanium and zinc white together?
problem with white grounded in lineesed oil is that it WILL yellow, in the future. And correcting it in advance is kind of hard.
Is it that? I want to get Winsor Newton mixing white because it will create best color.
Would permalba White be ok for practice? I’ve heard negative things about it but thought it a less expensive white to use for practice painting.
You can load anything into a color and make it do what you need. The point is, titanium mixes a certain way. Iron oxide black mixes down into a warm grey- brownish. Ivory black has a blue undertone due to the ultra marine it contains. Its not that it's easy or hard to overcome, but knowing that it is there TO overcome. This is why artists need to know how the pigment is made, and what it blends down into, simply knowing makes using it easy.
How do I keep my white paint from stiffening up with the slow dry medium for white?
What is the difference of soft mixing white by Winsor Newton? Is it just more diluted with medium?
I let some dabs of various whites age for 7 years. Some of them, including some titanium, yellowed terribly. Like yellow ocher.
I bought Winsor & Newton in the late '80s and not only did every tube open, (even my Flake White) all colours stayed true to my new and old colour charts. [And just for laughs: My stand oil cost $3.95 CDN!] I did throw out my Damar varnish and properly disposed of my Turpentine!
P.S.- I have bought Geneva paints, dividers and colour checker (I could have made them all) but anything I made would be crude compared to these well designed (heirloom quality) items. (Graduated Aerospace but now with: arthritis/replacements/reconstructions/Fibromyalgia etc.) who now lives in an apt >sigh
I had some Gamblin whites and they turned a crappy peachy white in 2 years on my colour board ...The Michael harding whites went cream colour in about the same time. My Lukas 1862 white has stayed just as white as it came out of the tube 8 years ago...same with my Art Spectrum whites.
I've had some Gamblin whites start to turn peachy in half a year. don't buy them anymore.
I use mostly Williamsburg flake white and Michael Harding Stack Lead. I've used Gamblin in the past for studies and haven't had this issue. Maybe due to your medium?
Oof ran out of titanium white and not sure if I could mix the 2 tubes of "transparent white" with the same slow drying medium as Titanium white or the slow drying medium as the rest of the colors? 🤔🤔🤔
What is oil colour brand are you used?
By the way Mark have you thought of promoting the paint to plein air community. The biggest advantage is that artists don't need to use medium and carry those to locations.
Kaustav Mukherjee That's actually a wondrrful idea.
A little confused. On one hand, titanium (excluding binder oil) tend towards blue/cool? But on the other hand if linseed is the oil used - THEN it tends towards yellow/warm?? Your demos are sooo helpful. Thanks for posting.
The best white I've found for me (and I've been painting for over forty years) is Utrecht white. It's a combination of Titanium and zinc. The combination enhances the good qualities of each pigment and helps mitigate their poorer qualities. Also Windsor Newton make a flake white hue that's not made with lead.
Hard Dunbye Studies say it's enough a tiny amount of zinc white to make paint brittle in a few years. Even the strong lead white becomes quite brittle mixed with zinc...
hello order titanium white from utrecht online, my palette is based on colors agglutinated with linseed oil, are the titanium whites from utrecht based on linseed? I have a titanium permalba based on safflower oil, can you mix flaxseed colors with titanium white safflower? what is your experience? thank you!!!
How does it come that your paint is so liquidy? My W&N paints have a thick paste-like texture. Does anyone else experience the same?
What about zinc white ?
Hey Mark when you were in Birmingham did you remember an artist named Rusty Lovelady and Daniel Moore?
Ancedotally I've read that 1/3 to 1/2 of a painting consist of white paint, mostly used in mixtures. Possibly moreso in paintings done in primary pigments...even where the final work is mostly low-chroma mid-values. ...Thoughts? ...Observations?
Yes I have an observation about this. One of the main reasons that so many artists (even so-called "professional" ones!) produce failed paintings is the consistent overuse of white in admixtures. What so often happens is that every color contains white, and the whole painting takes on a pasty look. The artist typically does not even realize their bad habit of adding too much white to everything.
Thank you for the video! It's finally nice to know the purposes of all the whites haha Can you also do a video on greys too?
Which white would you use to most accurately replicate seagull poop?
When using white, should warm and cool colors be kept separate to avoid mudding? Also, how do you avoid chalkiness?
Adr
Thank you
I am confused by the various brands of "mixing white". Windsor Newton says "Soft Mixing White is a soft, non-sticky blend of Titanium White and Zinc White that retains brushstrokes and is resistant to yellowing." Rembrandt brand says "Mixing white is softer and best used when you want to create more subtle color mixes and to lighten a color without the white overpowering the mixture." This seems useful as it's so easy to overpower colors by adding T white. Any opinions?
Here super late, but I really like the porcelain white from Williamsburg. It’s similar to flake white in transparency and nontoxic.
Thank you again for a very informative video. I have wanted a brilliant white in the past to mimic the brilliant white of the gesso used on icon panels. If you paint over this with semi-translucent paint they look luminous. Recently, I have come away from using brilliant white in favour of a more mellow white in most of my oil paintings as I find Titanium White too stark. My other issue with whites is their drying speed. I have waited over 6 weeks for an impasto Titanium White to dry completely so the quicker drying white that you had on your palette was of interest to me. I believe Winsor & Newton produce what they call an Underpainting White but, unfortunately, wherever I look for a tube of this it seems to be out of stock. I wonder if W&N have stopped making it?
Your comment is two years old, but I'm still going to reply even though I don't know whether you'll see it or not or whether you already have an answer. There are multiple brands that produce Underpainting White. Look carefully on the label if it contains Zinc white or not. Even a little bit is enough to turn it into a brittle paint film. And especially if you plan to paint thickly, that's a big issue. I believe driers are also added, which I don't think are beneficial to the paint film in the long run. Companies often don't put on the labels or internet what they add to the paint, so there is no way of knowing if they're good additives. It's taking a risk. A better alternative, I believe, is to make your own underpainting white. What I do, is have Titanium Dioxide as a pigment, and ground it in as little oil as possible. Keep more oil for upper layers (fat over lean). I mix this with a 1:1 ratio with Marble Dust also ground in as little oil as possible, into a thick paste. If you want to paint impasto's in underpaintings, this is a very good option. You can dilute it with solvents for a thinner consistency if you want. Having very little oil in it, also helps with the long drying time. It still takes some time to dry though, but no good way around that I think. The Marble Dust acts as a filler. In the 17th century, this (but Lead white instead of Titanium) was sold as Ceruse. A cheaper white, and was used by many artists, including Van Dyck. I recommend it!
@@josquinelburg74 Thank you so much for your informative reply. Two years may have passed by but I am still here and still painting. I have to say I have never tried making my own underpainting white and, as it happens, I do have all the ingredients in the recipe you recommend - Titanium White powder pigment and marble dust (and also, I think, some Lead White as a pigment which I won't touch with a barge pole as it is so highly toxic - it was given to me by another painter who was giving up painting and I don't know how to get rid of the stuff safely). I know all about Ceruse! Queen Elizabeth I used it as a cosmetic and plastered her face with it (and so did many others) so it's no wonder her face fell off and her teeth went black - probably also because she was addicted to sugar and ate it as though it were going out of fashion! It is thought that her death was caused as much by lead poisoning as old age and a deadly, unhealthy diet. The use of lead was banned in house paints in the UK in 1992: small children died of lead poisoning from eating flakes of the stuff because it is slightly sweet and god alone knows what fumes were emitted from the paint on walls! In the UK you have to be a certified, licensed, painting restorer if you want to buy lead white oil paint, known as Flake White; paint suppliers of repute will not sell it to just anyone who asks for it.
Hilary Minor You’re more than welcome. I’m glad you’re still painting, as I hope I will be in 2 years. Flake white in dust form is about the worst it can get haha, as you probably know. Very easy to breathe in, especially when you grind it. Good luck with disposing of it, I hope you’ll find a painter that can use it, as it’s still a very valuable pigment. Horrible about Queen Elisabeth I. And lead poisoning stories in general. Someone kindly gave me a can of lead white paint (I live in Netherlands), and have used it on several occasions, and as Mark mentions in the video, I don’t notice a true difference with Titanium White, other than it forming a strong paint film. Maybe not worth it with all the health dangers. I didn’t know restorers could legally get access to it! Thanks for letting me know, I was wondering about it since some restorers here use it for painting reproductions to research layering processes etc. Despite it’s toxicity, Lead/Flake/Cremnitz white is still a sort of obsession for me
@@101mosioatunya In Russia Lead White paint use for artists ceased at 1974 year.
Love your videos Mark, thank you. About Titanium and Flake white, Flake white IS a superior tint. Lead (flake) white, when mixed with rich colour, allows you to raise the value of that colour without reducing its intensity/saturation as much as Titanium white. Titanium white makes a more pastel or chalky colour mix than lead (flake) white. This is why Flake white is favoured for richer high value skin tones in portraiture.
Eugene That’s bullshit. Obviously Titanium will look chalky when compared to lead if you use the same amount. One can achieve the same results with Titanium. You just need to use less of Titanium in mixtures. Lead is still superior though.
Titanium White and Flake White have different tinting strength. That doesn't change my point. I'm saying a titanium tint will appear chalkier than a Flake tint OF THE SAME VALUE!
Thanks again
is flake white hue ok to use for portraits? Or is Flake White No. 1* better ?
It depends on the brand and pigments used. Flake white hue actually doesn't contain any flake (lead) white. Hue meaning, they try to emulate the effect. They also do this with Cadmiums. The problem is, is that brands may add Zinc White to the mixture, which has a bad effect on the paint film - it will become very brittle, crack and may even fall of the paint surface. What brand is Flake White No. 1 from? As long as it doesn't contain Zinc White, its good. Lead/Flake white makes for a very strong and durable paint surface. Problem is, that it's very toxic. If you use it, be very very careful! Take necessary health precautions. If you want to avoid this all together, you can use Titanium white. Again, whatever you buy, make sure it's from a good brand (like Old Holland, Michael Harding, Rublev, etc) and that it doesn't contain any Zinc white. I recommend Old Holland's Titanium White. You can use it for whatever you want to paint, including portraits. I also recommend watching more of Mark's DrawMixPaint videos, on color mixing, mixing flesh tones, etc. They are very good. I hope I could help.
this video is very useful
Zinc is my favourite white. Very nice to work with and not overpowering as the dreadful titanium. Would like to try Lead.
Fabrizio Titanium or Zinc is a matter of taste. As he said, zinc is more transparent, so if you want that effect it's fine, if you want a more opace film then titanium is better.
Yes, it is, which is why I said it was "my favourite".
Fabrizio But you call the other dreadful. But I found that a bit over the top. You didn't just say you favour the other, you say you detest it....
I mix 70% zinc with 30% TW, love the metallic effect of zinc white when mixed with other colors but need TW for opacity. I've found lead white to give a "powdery" look when mixed. I've seen some amazing contrast by placing a flake white mixed color next to a zinc white mixed color, just by the difference in texture. Here's an example- instagram.com/p/BYcGNFUHHp1/?taken-by=jose_cruz_art
Zinc has some bad side effects. You may want to do some research into it, but it is notorious for becoming brittle.
There has been some studies showing the fast degradation of Titanium white, and while your TW is wonderful I am concerned about this issue. Paintings created in the 60's and 70's have been destroyed by the degradation of Titanium white. (I posted a link to the study on your forums.) Can you address this issue, please?! Thanks.
So lead white have no degradation?
@@losangulosno actually. I don't use the stuff due to the toxicity, but there's no doubt the lightfastness and paint film strength of lead whites and mixtures containing them is vastly superior.
@@bigdaveuk97 what would be a good white to use?
@@losangulos I use titanium white like most everyone else these days, and pray for the best.
Remember that the archival qualities of your paint do depend also upon all the layers of preparation and paint (and the substrate) before the layer of white you're concerned about.
Buy the best quality canvas/panel you can afford, use a high quality modern acrylic gesso/primer (oil ones take too long to dry and aren't practical) and then you should be ready to apply those artist grade paints.
Even putting lead white onto a poor quality poorly prepared surface will lead to disaster...haha.
I know some will try and tell you lead white isn't so bad, but cleaning it up really is, and my kitty comes first in my place.
Do not use zinc white ! Or any titanium zinc mix, the science shows clearly those films are not going to last.
@@bigdaveuk97 well i appreciate your comments very much, and yes no zinc for me, thank you
You may have already answered this. But isn’t the concern about linseed oil in the white not that it makes it yellow initially, but after aging it tends to yellow or brown more than safflower? This yellowing isn’t as apparent in the other colors, but if you have a predominately white-ish area, or even pale blue as in snow, the yellowing might become annoying years down the road.
You did answer, I didn’t realize it could be reversed in sunlight
why your blending palette's background is dark? Every time where I watch the videos of other artists I was seeing the same thing. Does the background be white is not good?
its difficult to correctly judge the values of colors against a white or black background. Ideally it would be a neutral middle gray.
My end colors are matched on the painting it self- not on the pallet
..didnt find it still
Thanks!!
I like my titanium white made with walnut oil.
Look at whites samples after 15 years on sample boards and there are some shockers, especially with gamblin which turned orange, which is not white...
Old Holland_Lukas 1862_Permalba actually stay white.
It would be interesting if you have a discussion on paintings beyond realism, some time.
thank you
You are totally correct, white is almost never pure in nature and if you paint it, it will not look normal to the eye.
I did not know about the change in oil color because of linseed oil being changed back, thanks for the info. I did a picture 30 or more years ago that has a backround mostly of white satin with it's myriad white tones that will probably be positively effected with some increased light.
Is it true that flake white oxidizes and blackens over time?
Blackening of lead white can occur. The pigment in lead white is lead carbonate and that can combine with hydrogen sulphide to form lead sulphide, which is black in colour. However, oil paint is less affected than lead white gouach, because the oil forms a protective layer.
See www.nypl.org/blog/2016/11/14/inside-conservation-lab
My lead in oil paints get brighter with time! Lead by itself gets darker
its blurry but i could swear that flake white tube says its a hue and not the real thing.
So its safe to eat titanium white for breakfast? Can i add it to my oats?
No cremnitz white as favoured by Lucien Freud ? It deserves a mention as is real old school.
depending on brand Cremnitz White is either pure Lead White or Lead White plus Zinc White
I actually don't think they make the particular brand that he loved anymore. and he bought a massive amount after it went out of production and used it till his death.
@@Mattdotnfo
Interesting.
I tried your Geneva range, wasn't so happy with the texture . Very disappointing
i learn from you
No walnut oil white? (OK, not needed for your point.)
Photographers don't go all the way to pure, blasted out white. You lose all detail there.
I've been looking deep into whites lately and I am a Titanium White person too. But I learned the difference between student grade titanium white and professional grade. On the back of each paint tube they list the pigments... and professional grade titanium white is purely just titanium pigment. Student grade however, is a mix of titanium white and zinc white. This was with the Windsor Newton brand, I didn't look at other brands but I found that interesting.
The main big difference between the two grades is that the student grade has less pigment overall, no matter the color. More filler, less pigment. Professional grade is the opposite--more pigment, less filler. Essentially.
/checks my tube of W&N Artists Oil Colour Titanium White "Pigment: Titanium dioxide, PW6, Zinc oxide, PW4"
/checks my tube of W&N Winton Oil Colour Titanium White "Pigment: PW6, PW4"
*shrugs*
all titanium paints actually have at least a little bit of zinc in it because titanium creates a very spongy paint body without it. The artist grade paint just has a much higher pigment load.
White oil paint remains the most confusing color, titanium is to overpowering and changes the hue, lead white can kill you, zink cracks..... I wonder which white gerhard richter used in those massive paintings. Also, if the impressionist, expressionists, used lead white only. I don't know.
Where do you get that lead white kills you? Only lead bullets! Been using lead white for nearly 70 years! Still going strong,! Commercial scare tactics are totally out of control,!
@@robertchilders8698 Has it been tested if lead white oil paint can pass through you're skin, or not?
In my opinion, lead white is not only overrated but white is generally overused in mixes. Painters who praise lead white's working properties should also look into the industrial manufacturing process of their oil paints and the additives that are used. Many linseed oil production processes add to the yellowing. Certain additives are known to increase yellowing, too. Other additives stiffen and smoothen the paint. Titanium white is actually even more ropey and thixotropic than lead white. But it is really bad for the rollers, leads to a lot of separation between oil and pigment seperation and reduces shelf life. So, Titanium white paint contains generally about 1-3% zinc oxide or zinc white pigment which greatly increases its manufacturing properties and stabilises the paint in the tube. However, there are a lot of artist who put too much emphasis on certain materials and tend to compensate for a lack in skill with particular "special" ingredients and methods. In the end, there are certain best practices that help reduce yellowing tremendously. And I think that if somebody can't draw proper proportions or can't paint correct values, it doesn't matter if some Old Master recipes, formulas and processes were used, the painting will most likely be off.
Been painting for 40 years, Impressionism, abstract and portrait. IMO, the worst thing an artist can do is to paint white in its pure form. It is about contrasting color. What a color is on the pallet and what a color looks like in a piece are two totally different colors. Our viewer's mind's are set to a certain relationship to colors they naturally see. Pure white does not naturally exist, therefor quite out of place for their mind and emotions. I thought it was basic art knowledge.
One of the worst mistakes I see is the artist reaching for white every time they need to lighten a color tone up. They may as well added gray.
Does anyone know how I can buy Mark's studio easel? I've looked everywhere.
Sho this big studio easel is still not available in the market. probably they are working on it. the one that Mark showed how to make it is a simpler design but this one is a great one to have.
Thanks, my brother. When I can get one, I'm going to be all over it.
Go to drawmixpaint.com
You also don’t want to pour lead waste water down your drain as it can impact your drinking water and the homes around you as well
Brush dip solves the issue
Lead white is the most proven white that has ever been white. lol. It would be cool if you showed a painting that was painted using lead white Then did the same painting using titanium.
Well, I think titanium is what causes all that "milking" you complain about. It is the mixing behavior, not the color of the paint neat.
I’ve heard zinc cracks….
NOT if used with the RIGHT oils mate ! So its NOT the zinc-oxide, but the BINDER !!
My advice "Lead white'' is toxic.. But other are edible. 😄😄
You can eat the cadmiums??
Literally all your creativity and expression is in your painting because god knows you have none in other aspects of your conversation, facial expression and appearance. 🙌
Are you looking for a relationship or advice on painting? Obviously it isn't the latter.
Bruh u ded yet?
You are right when it comes to lead. Studies have found lead can be absorbed through skin. Because the paint toxicity the old masters in their late life were almost blind.
You will most likely to go blind by old age- not by lead white,.
your prices are way too high in my country I earn less that 300$ a mount I can't afford anything from your site
Daniel RKO He gives alternatives to most of his products for those living outside of the US and Europe.
Firstly lead is not absorbed through the skin..secondly you have to basicly eat paint to be exposed...and as adults we would have to eat a lot of it to be the least effected...if I have to tell you not to eat paint , shame on you...even Sargent lived to be 69..most masters that painted every day of their lives with lead paint lived to be 70s , 80s ..most of us are just hobbyist..just like any other product that you have in your house KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN..PERIOD!...sorry just sick of hearing how toxic this hobby is when it's really not if basic common sense is used
R. Taylor I agree 100%
My problem is I get paint all over my hands and in the middle of the night, in the middle of a painting, a sammich sounds really great. I get paint on everything, I must be the sloppiest painter ever!
Brad, if you get paint on anything other than the canvas, palette, and wiping rag, well, don't do that.
Personally, I agree with lead (PW1+Safflower) as the go-to-standard ... which has its own handling characteristics (non-chalky, slightly transparent, stringy, heavy, easy mixer for minimal palette, etc.) I will never go back to Tit whites (which mixes pastelly with everything)
I thought the problem was more as the painting ages it releases toxic fumes? but i'm going vaguely on what I heard in a video and cant rememeber.