Always following you because you are the best. Although I paint with acrylic, your lessons, and the way you explain, very concisely everything , and on top give us some history lesson make you very much a top teacher for us. Thank you for your very concise video and your time to make them. Cheers.
Oh yay, a new video! Your videos introduced me to Rublev paints, can't say enough about them. Also love Blue Ridge paints, they're high quality, their whites are buttery soft. Saved to my instructional videos-I have a folder on my PC with many of your videos, and I use them regularly for reference. Thanks so much Jason, you have been such a HUGE help!
Basic lead carbonate is a compound with a plastic-like consistency, and it forms thin sheets which glide across each other. The stack process stands out because it produces a larger particle size when compared to more modern chemical reaction and grinding processes, which instead result in smaller particles that behave more similarly to most modern pigments.
Hi Jason, I hope you are well! This video was so helpful, titanium white desaturates in such an uncontrolled way and I really appreciate learning about the other possibilities
@@walcottfineart5088 I hope you are healthy and doing well Jason, its so great to hear from you. Your subscribers care about you and appreciate everything you have taught us
Thank you. Very interesting to learn about stack lead white and your insights on the other options. Have you ever tried Old Holland lead white or any of their paints? I have some and they are very thick / pigmented.
Thank you for a great demo. I purchased MH Cremitz white recently. I made skin tone swatches with it vs. MH Titanium with MH tube paint colors. The cremitz makes beautiful soft skin tones, both cool and warm. Titanium is so much more cooler/caulky, with higher tint strength. The biggest difference for me was the drying time. The cremitz swatches took over a week to dry, the titanium took two days. Is this common?
Thanks for watching! Typically Lead Whites tend to dry very quickly, so I'm not sure why yours took so long. It's possible it was the color you mixed it with. It might also depend on the brand and which oil they used. Safflower oil dries much more slowly than Linseed.
Great video! I like how your videos are always straight to the point and very informative. Michael Harding oil paints are simply marvelous. I'd be so happy if I could buy a 225ml tube of Cremnitz White in walnut oil off somebody since they don't have any shops here in Canada lol
I love your videos. They are very informative. I have learned so much from them. I even made colour wheels based on the colours you mentioned in one of your videos. Can you please do a video about painting knives. Thanks.
I have used their Cremnitz White and I really liked it! My favorite is the Rublev Lead White #1, so I haven't bought any of the Blue Ridge in awhile. Thanks for watching! :)
Many replying below say that you can't get lead white in the UK - in fact you can: you do have to search for it, but the full Rublev range is available, and the Michael Harding range can be got, though with some difficulty. I was never very taken with the Winsor & Newton Cremnitz White, after they changed suppliers, and Old Holland lead whites contained a proportion of Zinc, to improve working properties - but a bad idea. You're very unlikely to find lead white in shops, and the major online outlets don't supply it - but Rublev itself does, as does the Supreme Paint Company. The RGH company in the USA told me some years ago that they could supply their Flake White to Europe: I don't know if that's still the case, but if you like their paint it could be worth finding out; they were very responsive when I last spoke to them.
Thanks for the info! Yes, I am aware of those laws in the EU limiting the sale of Lead White to conservators. I hope your suggestions can help people source what they need. Thanks for watching! :)
Thanks for this video! May I suggest something? You used to show a zoomed photo of your palette after these sort of paint comparisons which I find very useful. Can you do the same?
I guess I forgot to do that for this video! Sorry :) This was actually recorded in early November so those swatch samples are long gone. Thanks for watching!
I love your video's, all so helpful. I hope you can answer my question. I'm painting a black tattoo, but in the photo it seems to be faded, how do I make faded black? Add maybe a Zink White? help if you can! much thanks
Thanks for watching! Typically black will tend towards gray as it lightens so adding a white is good. Just be aware of any color that may be in there too. It could be a cool gray or a warm gray so really observing will help you get the right tone. Don't be afraid to add a little blue or brown if needed, especially if the underlying skin color is coming through.
The Blue Ridge is nice, I would say comparable to the Michael Harding. I don't buy it anymore since Rublev is my favorite. I have never tried RGH paints. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching and for the nice comment! The first medium that springs to mind for making oil colors matte is Gamblin's Cold Wax Medium. It can also be used as a matte varnish I believe. Hope that helps! :)
Not a medium but... My first oils were Winsor and Newton Griffin oils. These are an alkyd paint. I found that compared to all the oils I've used since, that these had the most matte finish. They are pretty good paints too (though slightly below artist quality; a good student grade imo) so using some of these might also help.
Thank you very much for this video! Here in the EU it is hard to buy any lead white. I have the same big Blockx tube as yours, and I keep it as a treasure. I save it for an _I_don't _know_what_ future painting. :D It is a wonderland for me to see your paints. :) Thank you for this test, I enjoyed it very much!
Question: I’m will be trying Lead White for the first time soon but I want to be safe about it. After I’m done painting, I’ve rinsed my brush off in solvent a few times, then what because surely you don’t use your studio soap and wash them in the sink to get the rest of the paint out? How do you fully clean your brushes when you have used toxic pigments like Lead? I haven’t been able to find anything specific about this process in regards to toxic pigments. I would really appreciate your help. Thank you so much for this video!
Good question! I have researched this in the past and was told the tiny amount that goes down the sink with the soap isn't really enough to hurt anything. That's the only answer I can really provide as I don't have any more information. Unfortunately there isn't really a way around washing it with soap and water because at some point the brush will require that to keep it in working condition. Almost all of the paint should come out in your brush cleaning tank. A properly rinsed brush should appear to have no paint in it before you head for the soap & water. The sludge that collects at the bottom of the brush tank should be taken to a hazmat collection center. Most towns will have one. Thanks for watching!
Hi Jason, Many thanks for this really informative video, which I have been looking for. Lead white has some distinctive properties unmatched by any other white pigments. However, I live in India where it is prohibitively expensive and difficult to get lead white tubes from Rublev, Vasari, Blockx, Williamsburg, etc. as they cost average $20 plus taxes and shipping. So, I purchased Basic Lead Carbonate (2PbCO3.Pb(OH)2) from a scientific supply shop for $7 for 500gm of the pigment with 99% purity. It was a really satisfying experience to grind the pigment myself and use a glass muller to suspend the pigment with linseed oil. I noticed the stringy like consistency as you mentioned. I didn't add any other pigments or additives and it worked great. I think lead white paint tubes are highly overpriced as compared to the pigment itself.
I am impressed by your ability to make your own paint! I have never tried that. Please just be very, very careful with that dry lead carbonate pigment. Make sure you wear a really good mask so that you don't breathe any of the dust and if possible use it outdoors. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 Of course. I do wear protective masks as well as latex gloves while grinding and mulling the lead pigment. Safety first always. Thank you.
I notice that Michael Harding makes Cremnitz White either with linseed oil or walnut oil - I've read that walnut oil does not yellow, but some (not all) people say it can go rancid - have you ever compared them?
I would think walnut oil will only go rancid if it sits as a liquid inside a bottle. I have not ever had that happen to actual paint. Once dry it would be fine. I haven't done a direct comparison video on those. Walnut oil has been in use for painting for centurie so I assum it's a time-tested material :) Thanks for watching!
What do you mean when describing a color tint as chalky? Is it that it loses saturation, or is it a powdery appearance? Or something else I'm not aware of just yet?
Great question! "Chalkiness" is usually a temperature problem, most often being when a light area or highlight is too cool when it should be warm (but it can also be the other way). It's kind of hard to articualte exactly but you'll know it when you see it. Lead White is naturally a warmer white than Titanium White so it's less likely to occur when using it to lighten colors. Thanks for watching!
Hi Jason! this video was awesome, thank you so much for it. Have you tried Gamblin's Flake White Replacement? Do you know if it is any good? Thanks for all your videos, I'm an Acrylic and Gouache painter and your videos have really made me interested in using Oils. Regards!
Funny you should ask this as that is the one Gamblin color I tell people to avoid at all costs! Gamblin's Flake White Replacement yellows very badly in a short amount of time. I did a video on it which you can find here: ruclips.net/video/nW6k-w4Jh24/видео.html If you are looking for a good replacement for Flake White, I like Winsor & Newton's Flake White Hue. Thanks for watching! :)
The Michael Harding stack white is fascinating. But the fact that it is almost $100 Canadian for a little tube keeps me from purchasing it. Loved seeing it in action! Thanks for the video.
Hi,and now UK is outside UE,lead white will be free to buy,isn't it ? I bought last year lead white from Rublev from UK (supreme art paint)and from US artshop too,and no problem with french customs..i was lucky maybe.😊.
@@endofchat7832 Yes, I've heard about the EU ban on Lead White. I was also wondering (as others here have) whether or not Brexit will change that law. We'll see I guess. Thanks for watching! :)
Maybe ask the question directly to Supremepaint,he will tell you if he can sell and ship inside UK..in France because of the EU law forbidden lead pigment(little bit different for genuine Vermillon and genuine Naples yellows ,very expensive but you can find them with M.H oil at "le Géant des beaux arts"),it's totally impossible to find lead white oil paint in store..
A guy on eBay had about 20 sealed 150ml tubes of Utrecht Flake White for sale, "buy it now," for $34. I bought one right after I purchased a 60ml tube of Blockx on a great sale at Jerry's. Anyway, I bought one tube of the Utrecht to check the quality of the tubes and, then, bought two more after trying out the first one. I was using it today and I don't think it was my imagination, but it was getting slightly, yes slightly, "ropey" as I worked it over with my palette knife. Not like stack lead white, but it was a bit stringy or ropey after working it over for a bit. Did you ever find it to have slightly thixotropic characteristics?
Yes I do agree with you on the Utrecht white! It does have that thixotropic tendency. You were lucky to find such a great bargain! Thanks for watching :)
Ok thanks! I currently use the walnut version and have been wanting to switch to the linseed for the faster drying time. I had read a few things online about people saying the linseed was very stiff and a weird texture but in your video it looks nice and creamy like the walnut version.
Yes you can use it on wood and long as you first prime the wood with acrylic gesso. Don't paint directly on the raw wood with oil paint. There are a few other pigments that contains lead. Lead-Tin Yellow, Genuine Naples Yellow and the Chrome Yellows and Oranges and Minium which is also a bright orange. You can get most of those paints from Rublev (Natural Pigments). Thanks for watching! :)
Most of the demo videos on here use the Fredrix canvas pads. If I'm doing an actual painting then I try to always use a high quality canvas panel or canvas, but the brand can vary. Good brands are Winsor & Newton, Centurion Oil Primed DLX, and Masterpiece Pro. Thanks for watching!
I have the Blockx and Rublev n°2 (less stiff than n°1)and Venitian(the only transparent lead white from Rublev i saw on their website)..and a art teacher told me to add 15% of Zinc white with the quantity of Blockx lead white when mixing colors ,to prevent some yellowing on painting with years.. I can find easily the Blockx for the moment in France through a art association only, and i learn only US and China still produced now lead pigments.. Great video Jason !👍❤ Hope you will made some test with Naples yellows,genuine and hue,and the Lapis ,genuine vermillon too..😉
Please don't add Zinc White to your lead white. Zinc White has been shown to be problematic. www.naturalpigments.com/artist-materials/zinc-white-oil-paint-color/
Salut :) je tombe à l'instant sur ton commentaire qui tombe à pic! Je suis en train de faire pas mal de recherches pour renouveler mes matériaux donc je vois bien de quelle asso tu parles! Je me disais que ce serait peut être une bonne solution pour choper du blanc d'argent mais celui de Blockx est à base d'huile d'oeillette je crois... super pour éviter le jaunissement mais je me demande s'il faut éviter de s'en servir en début de peinture quand on prévoit de superposer pas mal de couches de glacis par exemple..? Il est comment niveau consistence, temps de séchage etc? Tu en es content(e)? Tu as testé le Cremnitz de chez Old Holland sinon? Encore plein de questions mais ça fait déjà long pour youtube ;)
@@amab2672Bonjour,hélas,avec mon travail,je n'ai pas pu encore me remettre à l'huile et utiliser tout les blancs. Oui,c'est l '"atelier des fontaines" ou j'ai acheté le blanc d'argent/plomb de Blockx ainsi que leur sublimes médiums fait maison,toujours intact 😉...Pour le Rublev lead white ,aller à "Supreme paints" -Royaume Uni. Pas acheté le Cremitz de Old Holland pour l'instant..
@@jorey4565 rah merci pour ton message Jo! Supreme paints vend absolument tout ce que je cherchais c'est un miracle :) grâce à toi je vais enfin pouvoir tester l'apprêt huile au plomb que je cherchais depuis un moment 👍 Je te souhaite de trouver le temps de te remettre à peindre, c'est vrai qu'avec le travail c'est parfois compliqué... est-ce qu'on peut voir tes peintures quelque part en ligne?
Thank you for the great videos, Jason. I've had some disappointing experiences with Michael Harding oil paints. My tube of stack lead white has turned a light grey colour inside the tube. It's four years old, but I thought it would have lasted much longer than that. It used to be a brilliant white colour. Also, with the MH Cremnitz, once dry, the paint surface is bespeckled with dots of oil. It's as if the oil wasn't mixed in properly with the pigment when the paint was made. In addition, this paint turns quite yellow on the canvas after a year of two. Have you ever heard of these things happening before to other people? I love the Blockx flake white and I am keen to try the Rublev lead No. 1 seeing you recommend it.
Thanks for watching! I'm so sorry to hear that you've had trouble with the Michael Harding paints! I have not experienced that or heard of others that have, but I do know that Michael stands behind his products, so I would recommend giving them a call or email and seeing if they can clear it up for you. If others have had this experience, please comment here and let us know.
@@walcottfineart5088Thanks for your reply and suggestion. Could you tell me if the Rublev lead white No. 1 yellows at all given it's made with linseed oil. Or would their lead white No. 2 be less subject to yellowing given it's made with walnut oil? I haven't tried either, so I was wondering which one to get. Thanks again.
@@shaun4792 I haven't noticed any yellowing on my Rublev Lead white...that really takes many years to show up. Walnut Oil has a slightly slicker feel to it so it's more about the texture of the paint. Hope that helps! :)
Stack Lead White is a very delicate color to manufacture and if any impurities are left in it such as lead acetate it will turn the color grey over time. He may have just not washed the pigment enough which caused it change color like that. Other than this particular color Michael Harding pil paints and blue ridge are some of the best I've ever used
I'm not positive but they may have stopped making it?. A few years back the EU banned the sale of Lead White. For awhile it was made in China but the quality went way down. For me personally, the best lead white on the market is Rublev's Lead White #1. You won't be able to buy it though if you're in the EU. :( Thanks for watching!
A filler in oil paint is an inert colorless powder added to extend the pigment so you can still make a full tube, but use less pigment. It means the paint isn't as robust (in terms of color and mixing strength) as one that contains no or very little filler. Thanks for watching!
I live in the UK so Michael Harding is the easiest one for me to get. I would say that their cremnitz is closer to Blockx zinc than it is to Rublev's flake white. No joke. I wish getting Rublev wasn't so expensive / complicated. It's definitely better.
Harding is great stuff! Rublev has opened a European website/ordering page but I don't know how prices compare. www.naturalpigments.eu Thanks for watching! :)
I am really not sure. You would have to check with your local regulations and whether they allow it to be sold in your country. You may be able to order it online. Jackson's in the UK ship internationally. Thanks for watching!
You just saved me a load of frustration. I want to try lead precisely for that ropey quality, but nothing I've read has ever mentioned that modern leads don't actually act like that. No Williamsburg for me then (the one I was gonna get), Michael Harding it is.
I'm so glad my video was helpful! You might also want to try Utrecht's Flemish White at some point. It's a much softer almost fluid Lead White, but it has that ropey quality too. Thanks for watching! :)
Winsor & Newton stopped making its lead whites. Possibly because of production quality problems in China. My Chinese tubes don't seem too bad (so far.), but others had complained about their tubes being half full of loose oil and bits of grit in the paint, so Winsor & newton probably thought them more trouble than they're worth.
I'm not surprised to hear that. I thought the quality of their lead white really went down when they switched to the Chinese manufacturing. I'm glad you like yours though! Thanks for watching! :)
BLOCKX is manufactured in the EU, in Belgium, and they still make a lead white, like what you show. So Winsor & Newton didn't need to move to China, to manufacture lead white.
Hello Jason :-) The one thing that puts me off using lead white is the toxicity of the substance. I am never quite sure how to dispose of the cleaner fluid I've washed the brushes in and wonder if you could include some information about this. I use the Michael Harding Lead White Alternative and find it quite good. It is non-toxic.
Well it depends on whether you have easy access to a hazmat collection center. Every so often I will clean the sludge from the bottom of my brush cleaning tank, put it a sealed glass or plastic jar and drop it off at my local hazmat collection center. I am fortunate to have one only a few miles from me that is open every day for collection. Some towns may have scheduled pick up days though. If the Harding Lead White Alternative is working for you then I say stick with that. :) Thanks for watching!
Yes that's actually my go-to non Lead White! It's really just Titanium though, so it doesn't have the same properties as a genuine Lead White. Thanks for watching!
If you ever want to make More videos, people would Watch. Keep it to 20 Minutes. How to use a palette knife, how to make certain leaf effects or tree effects, etc. anything!!
mate u need to invest in a better camera ASAP! Bring it closer to the surface, make a good gray shade glass palette and do a good light. Your videos would look much better besides being already very informative.
lead white, lead carbonate, also known as flake white is a heavy metal one of those who doesn't leave the body at all. Try not to get on your skin, it has a very high rate of migration with the tissue of any cellular level, try not to eat or smoking/vaping while using the paint. And no, milk or chelating agents don't work. So, be safe.
Thank you for the thoughful comment! As far as I've heard lead carbonate pigment particles are too large to absorb thorugh the skin, but I also always use a barrier cream called "Gloves in a Bottle" when i am painting just to be sure. I am very careful with my studio practices. :) Thanks for watching!
Walcott Fine Art Hi there, but, what about washing your brushes? I don’t want the lead to go down the drain, right? We live out in the country and the water goes down into the field from our drain
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Always following you because you are the best. Although I paint with acrylic, your lessons, and the way you explain, very concisely everything , and on top give us some history lesson make you very much a top teacher for us. Thank you for your very concise video and your time to make them. Cheers.
Thanks for such a nice comment and for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. :)
Oh yay, a new video! Your videos introduced me to Rublev paints, can't say enough about them. Also love Blue Ridge paints, they're high quality, their whites are buttery soft. Saved to my instructional videos-I have a folder on my PC with many of your videos, and I use them regularly for reference. Thanks so much Jason, you have been such a HUGE help!
I'm so glad you found the video useful! Thanks for watching and for the nice comment :) I'm pleased that I help you discover Rublev!
Basic lead carbonate is a compound with a plastic-like consistency, and it forms thin sheets which glide across each other. The stack process stands out because it produces a larger particle size when compared to more modern chemical reaction and grinding processes, which instead result in smaller particles that behave more similarly to most modern pigments.
Thanks for the info! Yes, the stack lead white definitely has a different feel to it. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for your very helpful videos and also for good volume of your voice.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :)
Thank you. I enjoy listening to what you teach.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Jason, I hope you are well! This video was so helpful, titanium white desaturates in such an uncontrolled way and I really appreciate learning about the other possibilities
I'm so glad the video was helpful! Thanks for watching :)
@@walcottfineart5088 I hope you are healthy and doing well Jason, its so great to hear from you. Your subscribers care about you and appreciate everything you have taught us
Thank you so much.. I have learn't so much about paint and its properties from your channel.
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching :)
Love the videos!! Great job.
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching :)
Thank you so much for this video, it is so informative and helpful!
I'm so glad you enjoyed it :) Thanks for watching!
Thank you. Very interesting to learn about stack lead white and your insights on the other options.
Have you ever tried Old Holland lead white or any of their paints? I have some and they are very thick / pigmented.
Thanks for watching! I have used Old Holland, but never their Lead White. I do find they are too stiff for me. I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Beltracchi learned the hard way that one lead white contains titanium white which isn’t listed on the label. Good video as always, Jason.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Thank you for a great demo. I purchased MH Cremitz white recently. I made skin tone swatches with it vs. MH Titanium with MH tube paint colors. The cremitz makes beautiful soft skin tones, both cool and warm. Titanium is so much more cooler/caulky, with higher tint strength. The biggest difference for me was the drying time. The cremitz swatches took over a week to dry, the titanium took two days. Is this common?
Thanks for watching! Typically Lead Whites tend to dry very quickly, so I'm not sure why yours took so long. It's possible it was the color you mixed it with. It might also depend on the brand and which oil they used. Safflower oil dries much more slowly than Linseed.
Great video! I like how your videos are always straight to the point and very informative. Michael Harding oil paints are simply marvelous. I'd be so happy if I could buy a 225ml tube of Cremnitz White in walnut oil off somebody since they don't have any shops here in Canada lol
Thanks so much for the nice comment and for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Such a wealth of information..😍😍👏👏👏
I love your videos. They are very informative. I have learned so much from them. I even made colour wheels based on the colours you mentioned in one of your videos. Can you please do a video about painting knives. Thanks.
Great idea! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :) Thanks for watching!
Great video Jayson! You've reviewed Blue Ridge Oils in the past and I like using their Lead Whites... have you tried those?
I have used their Cremnitz White and I really liked it! My favorite is the Rublev Lead White #1, so I haven't bought any of the Blue Ridge in awhile. Thanks for watching! :)
Many replying below say that you can't get lead white in the UK - in fact you can: you do have to search for it, but the full Rublev range is available, and the Michael Harding range can be got, though with some difficulty. I was never very taken with the Winsor & Newton Cremnitz White, after they changed suppliers, and Old Holland lead whites contained a proportion of Zinc, to improve working properties - but a bad idea. You're very unlikely to find lead white in shops, and the major online outlets don't supply it - but Rublev itself does, as does the Supreme Paint Company. The RGH company in the USA told me some years ago that they could supply their Flake White to Europe: I don't know if that's still the case, but if you like their paint it could be worth finding out; they were very responsive when I last spoke to them.
Thanks for the info! Yes, I am aware of those laws in the EU limiting the sale of Lead White to conservators. I hope your suggestions can help people source what they need. Thanks for watching! :)
Thanks for this video! May I suggest something? You used to show a zoomed photo of your palette after these sort of paint comparisons which I find very useful. Can you do the same?
I guess I forgot to do that for this video! Sorry :) This was actually recorded in early November so those swatch samples are long gone. Thanks for watching!
Will you do a full review of blue ridge oil paints please?
Good idea! Thanks for watching!
I have a rublev tube of flemish white which is based on lead sulfate from rublev. I like the constincey of their paints.
Yes! They are an excellent paint brand. Thanks for watching :)
I love your video's, all so helpful. I hope you can answer my question. I'm painting a black tattoo, but in the photo it seems to be faded, how do I make faded black? Add maybe a Zink White? help if you can! much thanks
Thanks for watching! Typically black will tend towards gray as it lightens so adding a white is good. Just be aware of any color that may be in there too. It could be a cool gray or a warm gray so really observing will help you get the right tone. Don't be afraid to add a little blue or brown if needed, especially if the underlying skin color is coming through.
What is your take on Blue Ridge and RGH? They are cheaper but dont know about quality compared to the biggies.
The Blue Ridge is nice, I would say comparable to the Michael Harding. I don't buy it anymore since Rublev is my favorite. I have never tried RGH paints. Thanks for watching!
Thank you. That was helpful.
Glad you enjoyed it :) Thanks for watching!
have you ever tried robert doak’s lead whites? or blue ridge? would be interested to hear what you think of their paint
The Blue Ridge Cremnitz White is a good paint, although it's on the stiff side. I have never tried the Doak. Thanks for watching! :)
Amazing video as always, one question i wanted to ask you is which medium i should use to give a matte finish to oil paints?
Thanks for watching and for the nice comment! The first medium that springs to mind for making oil colors matte is Gamblin's Cold Wax Medium. It can also be used as a matte varnish I believe. Hope that helps! :)
@@walcottfineart5088 thanks, i will definitely tri it!
Not a medium but... My first oils were Winsor and Newton Griffin oils. These are an alkyd paint. I found that compared to all the oils I've used since, that these had the most matte finish. They are pretty good paints too (though slightly below artist quality; a good student grade imo) so using some of these might also help.
Thank you very much for this video! Here in the EU it is hard to buy any lead white. I have the same big Blockx tube as yours, and I keep it as a treasure. I save it for an _I_don't _know_what_ future painting. :D It is a wonderland for me to see your paints. :) Thank you for this test, I enjoyed it very much!
I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching :)
Question: I’m will be trying Lead White for the first time soon but I want to be safe about it. After I’m done painting, I’ve rinsed my brush off in solvent a few times, then what because surely you don’t use your studio soap and wash them in the sink to get the rest of the paint out? How do you fully clean your brushes when you have used toxic pigments like Lead? I haven’t been able to find anything specific about this process in regards to toxic pigments. I would really appreciate your help. Thank you so much for this video!
Good question! I have researched this in the past and was told the tiny amount that goes down the sink with the soap isn't really enough to hurt anything. That's the only answer I can really provide as I don't have any more information. Unfortunately there isn't really a way around washing it with soap and water because at some point the brush will require that to keep it in working condition. Almost all of the paint should come out in your brush cleaning tank. A properly rinsed brush should appear to have no paint in it before you head for the soap & water. The sludge that collects at the bottom of the brush tank should be taken to a hazmat collection center. Most towns will have one. Thanks for watching!
Hi Jason,
Many thanks for this really informative video, which I have been looking for. Lead white has some distinctive properties unmatched by any other white pigments.
However, I live in India where it is prohibitively expensive and difficult to get lead white tubes from Rublev, Vasari, Blockx, Williamsburg, etc. as they cost average $20 plus taxes and shipping. So, I purchased Basic Lead Carbonate (2PbCO3.Pb(OH)2) from a scientific supply shop for $7 for 500gm of the pigment with 99% purity. It was a really satisfying experience to grind the pigment myself and use a glass muller to suspend the pigment with linseed oil. I noticed the stringy like consistency as you mentioned. I didn't add any other pigments or additives and it worked great.
I think lead white paint tubes are highly overpriced as compared to the pigment itself.
I am impressed by your ability to make your own paint! I have never tried that. Please just be very, very careful with that dry lead carbonate pigment. Make sure you wear a really good mask so that you don't breathe any of the dust and if possible use it outdoors. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 Of course. I do wear protective masks as well as latex gloves while grinding and mulling the lead pigment. Safety first always.
Thank you.
I notice that Michael Harding makes Cremnitz White either with linseed oil or walnut oil - I've read that walnut oil does not yellow, but some (not all) people say it can go rancid - have you ever compared them?
I would think walnut oil will only go rancid if it sits as a liquid inside a bottle. I have not ever had that happen to actual paint. Once dry it would be fine. I haven't done a direct comparison video on those. Walnut oil has been in use for painting for centurie so I assum it's a time-tested material :) Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much...I too like Rublev..l
Thanks for watching! :)
What do you mean when describing a color tint as chalky? Is it that it loses saturation, or is it a powdery appearance? Or something else I'm not aware of just yet?
Great question! "Chalkiness" is usually a temperature problem, most often being when a light area or highlight is too cool when it should be warm (but it can also be the other way). It's kind of hard to articualte exactly but you'll know it when you see it. Lead White is naturally a warmer white than Titanium White so it's less likely to occur when using it to lighten colors. Thanks for watching!
Hi Jason! this video was awesome, thank you so much for it. Have you tried Gamblin's Flake White Replacement? Do you know if it is any good? Thanks for all your videos, I'm an Acrylic and Gouache painter and your videos have really made me interested in using Oils. Regards!
Funny you should ask this as that is the one Gamblin color I tell people to avoid at all costs! Gamblin's Flake White Replacement yellows very badly in a short amount of time. I did a video on it which you can find here: ruclips.net/video/nW6k-w4Jh24/видео.html If you are looking for a good replacement for Flake White, I like Winsor & Newton's Flake White Hue. Thanks for watching! :)
@@walcottfineart5088 Thanks a lot!
The Michael Harding stack white is fascinating. But the fact that it is almost $100 Canadian for a little tube keeps me from purchasing it. Loved seeing it in action! Thanks for the video.
Hi,and now UK is outside UE,lead white will be free to buy,isn't it ?
I bought last year lead white from Rublev from UK (supreme art paint)and from US artshop too,and no problem with french customs..i was lucky maybe.😊.
@@endofchat7832 Hopefully with Brexxit, this will change for the better. Wow that SUCKS! :(
Thanks for watching! Yes, that Michael harding is expensive. It's great but I actually like the Rublev better! :)
@@endofchat7832 Yes, I've heard about the EU ban on Lead White. I was also wondering (as others here have) whether or not Brexit will change that law. We'll see I guess. Thanks for watching! :)
Maybe ask the question directly to Supremepaint,he will tell you if he can sell and ship inside UK..in France because of the EU law forbidden lead pigment(little bit different for genuine Vermillon and genuine Naples yellows ,very expensive but you can find them with M.H oil at "le Géant des beaux arts"),it's totally impossible to find lead white oil paint in store..
A guy on eBay had about 20 sealed 150ml tubes of Utrecht Flake White for sale, "buy it now," for $34. I bought one right after I purchased a 60ml tube of Blockx on a great sale at Jerry's. Anyway, I bought one tube of the Utrecht to check the quality of the tubes and, then, bought two more after trying out the first one. I was using it today and I don't think it was my imagination, but it was getting slightly, yes slightly, "ropey" as I worked it over with my palette knife. Not like stack lead white, but it was a bit stringy or ropey after working it over for a bit. Did you ever find it to have slightly thixotropic characteristics?
Yes I do agree with you on the Utrecht white! It does have that thixotropic tendency. You were lucky to find such a great bargain! Thanks for watching :)
I’m curious to know if the Micheal Harding Cremintz you used in the video is the linseed or walnut version?
It was the linseed oil version. Thanks for watching! :)
Ok thanks! I currently use the walnut version and have been wanting to switch to the linseed for the faster drying time. I had read a few things online about people saying the linseed was very stiff and a weird texture but in your video it looks nice and creamy like the walnut version.
Walcott Fine Art can this kind of paint be used on wood? I build ukulele's can you get lead paint in other colors?
Yes you can use it on wood and long as you first prime the wood with acrylic gesso. Don't paint directly on the raw wood with oil paint. There are a few other pigments that contains lead. Lead-Tin Yellow, Genuine Naples Yellow and the Chrome Yellows and Oranges and Minium which is also a bright orange. You can get most of those paints from Rublev (Natural Pigments). Thanks for watching! :)
Good information.
Thanks for watching!
What kind of oil painting paper/canvas do you use?
Most of the demo videos on here use the Fredrix canvas pads. If I'm doing an actual painting then I try to always use a high quality canvas panel or canvas, but the brand can vary. Good brands are Winsor & Newton, Centurion Oil Primed DLX, and Masterpiece Pro. Thanks for watching!
I have the Blockx and Rublev n°2 (less stiff than n°1)and Venitian(the only transparent lead white from Rublev i saw on their website)..and a art teacher told me to add 15% of Zinc white with the quantity of Blockx lead white when mixing colors ,to prevent some yellowing on painting with years..
I can find easily the Blockx for the moment in France through a art association only,
and i learn only US and China still produced now lead pigments..
Great video Jason !👍❤
Hope you will made some test with Naples yellows,genuine and hue,and the Lapis ,genuine vermillon too..😉
Thanks so much for watching! Yeah you can probably still get Lead White through back channels in the EU. :) The Naples Yellow video is a good idea!
Please don't add Zinc White to your lead white. Zinc White has been shown to be problematic.
www.naturalpigments.com/artist-materials/zinc-white-oil-paint-color/
Salut :) je tombe à l'instant sur ton commentaire qui tombe à pic! Je suis en train de faire pas mal de recherches pour renouveler mes matériaux donc je vois bien de quelle asso tu parles! Je me disais que ce serait peut être une bonne solution pour choper du blanc d'argent mais celui de Blockx est à base d'huile d'oeillette je crois... super pour éviter le jaunissement mais je me demande s'il faut éviter de s'en servir en début de peinture quand on prévoit de superposer pas mal de couches de glacis par exemple..? Il est comment niveau consistence, temps de séchage etc? Tu en es content(e)? Tu as testé le Cremnitz de chez Old Holland sinon? Encore plein de questions mais ça fait déjà long pour youtube ;)
@@amab2672Bonjour,hélas,avec mon travail,je n'ai pas pu encore me remettre à l'huile et utiliser tout les blancs.
Oui,c'est l '"atelier des fontaines" ou j'ai acheté le blanc d'argent/plomb de Blockx ainsi que leur sublimes médiums fait maison,toujours intact 😉...Pour le Rublev lead white ,aller à "Supreme paints" -Royaume Uni.
Pas acheté le Cremitz de Old Holland pour l'instant..
@@jorey4565 rah merci pour ton message Jo! Supreme paints vend absolument tout ce que je cherchais c'est un miracle :) grâce à toi je vais enfin pouvoir tester l'apprêt huile au plomb que je cherchais depuis un moment 👍 Je te souhaite de trouver le temps de te remettre à peindre, c'est vrai qu'avec le travail c'est parfois compliqué... est-ce qu'on peut voir tes peintures quelque part en ligne?
Thank you for the great videos, Jason. I've had some disappointing experiences with Michael Harding oil paints. My tube of stack lead white has turned a light grey colour inside the tube. It's four years old, but I thought it would have lasted much longer than that. It used to be a brilliant white colour. Also, with the MH Cremnitz, once dry, the paint surface is bespeckled with dots of oil. It's as if the oil wasn't mixed in properly with the pigment when the paint was made. In addition, this paint turns quite yellow on the canvas after a year of two. Have you ever heard of these things happening before to other people? I love the Blockx flake white and I am keen to try the Rublev lead No. 1 seeing you recommend it.
Thanks for watching! I'm so sorry to hear that you've had trouble with the Michael Harding paints! I have not experienced that or heard of others that have, but I do know that Michael stands behind his products, so I would recommend giving them a call or email and seeing if they can clear it up for you. If others have had this experience, please comment here and let us know.
@@walcottfineart5088Thanks for your reply and suggestion. Could you tell me if the Rublev lead white No. 1 yellows at all given it's made with linseed oil. Or would their lead white No. 2 be less subject to yellowing given it's made with walnut oil? I haven't tried either, so I was wondering which one to get. Thanks again.
@@shaun4792 I haven't noticed any yellowing on my Rublev Lead white...that really takes many years to show up. Walnut Oil has a slightly slicker feel to it so it's more about the texture of the paint. Hope that helps! :)
Stack Lead White is a very delicate color to manufacture and if any impurities are left in it such as lead acetate it will turn the color grey over time. He may have just not washed the pigment enough which caused it change color like that. Other than this particular color Michael Harding pil paints and blue ridge are some of the best I've ever used
Excuse me ... Where can you still buy winsor and newton lead white ??
I'm not positive but they may have stopped making it?. A few years back the EU banned the sale of Lead White. For awhile it was made in China but the quality went way down. For me personally, the best lead white on the market is Rublev's Lead White #1. You won't be able to buy it though if you're in the EU. :( Thanks for watching!
Can you explain what a filler is (in oil paint)?
A filler in oil paint is an inert colorless powder added to extend the pigment so you can still make a full tube, but use less pigment. It means the paint isn't as robust (in terms of color and mixing strength) as one that contains no or very little filler. Thanks for watching!
I live in the UK so Michael Harding is the easiest one for me to get. I would say that their cremnitz is closer to Blockx zinc than it is to Rublev's flake white. No joke. I wish getting Rublev wasn't so expensive / complicated. It's definitely better.
Harding is great stuff! Rublev has opened a European website/ordering page but I don't know how prices compare. www.naturalpigments.eu Thanks for watching! :)
Great subject! I wish you would have included Blue Ridge Flake/Flemish White...
Thanks for watching!
Is it possible to buy lead white in Korea?
I am really not sure. You would have to check with your local regulations and whether they allow it to be sold in your country. You may be able to order it online. Jackson's in the UK ship internationally. Thanks for watching!
You just saved me a load of frustration. I want to try lead precisely for that ropey quality, but nothing I've read has ever mentioned that modern leads don't actually act like that. No Williamsburg for me then (the one I was gonna get), Michael Harding it is.
I'm so glad my video was helpful! You might also want to try Utrecht's Flemish White at some point. It's a much softer almost fluid Lead White, but it has that ropey quality too. Thanks for watching! :)
Have you tried Williamsburg Flake White? What are your thoughts on it?
I have tried it and found it to be quite too stiff for my tastes. I prefer Rublev's Lead White #1. Thanks for watching!
Yes, I've tried it! Was expensive and quite hard¡
It was NOT white.. almost a yellow ochre!
Winsor & Newton stopped making its lead whites. Possibly because of production quality problems in China. My Chinese tubes don't seem too bad (so far.), but others had complained about their tubes being half full of loose oil and bits of grit in the paint, so Winsor & newton probably thought them more trouble than they're worth.
I'm not surprised to hear that. I thought the quality of their lead white really went down when they switched to the Chinese manufacturing. I'm glad you like yours though! Thanks for watching! :)
The lead white that I got was not only expensive, but had a yellowish color!
BLOCKX is manufactured in the EU, in Belgium, and they still make a lead white, like what you show. So Winsor & Newton didn't need to move to China, to manufacture lead white.
Yeah, that seems odd doesn't it? It may not have anything to do with the lead white ban laws. Anyway thanks for watching! :)
They dropped it because of the price. Apart from that its overrated lol
I bought OH flake white once. It was sooo stiff I had trouble getting it out of the tube. Not joking.
Yes, Old Holland can be very stiff in general. I typically don't buy their paint, although some people love it. Thanks for watching!
Hello Jason :-) The one thing that puts me off using lead white is the toxicity of the substance. I am never quite sure how to dispose of the cleaner fluid I've washed the brushes in and wonder if you could include some information about this. I use the Michael Harding Lead White Alternative and find it quite good. It is non-toxic.
Well it depends on whether you have easy access to a hazmat collection center. Every so often I will clean the sludge from the bottom of my brush cleaning tank, put it a sealed glass or plastic jar and drop it off at my local hazmat collection center. I am fortunate to have one only a few miles from me that is open every day for collection. Some towns may have scheduled pick up days though. If the Harding Lead White Alternative is working for you then I say stick with that. :) Thanks for watching!
Hey Jason, I signed up with Daniel Edmondson, got the first lesson woooohooooooo
Have fun! Dan is a great teacher. Thanks for watching! :)
These have different binders.
do you recommend winsor flake hue?
Yes that's actually my go-to non Lead White! It's really just Titanium though, so it doesn't have the same properties as a genuine Lead White. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 thank you . titanium paint for flake white price
If you ever want to make
More videos, people would
Watch. Keep it to 20
Minutes. How to use a palette knife, how to make certain leaf effects or tree effects, etc. anything!!
That was expensive video
mate u need to invest in a better camera ASAP! Bring it closer to the surface, make a good gray shade glass palette and do a good light. Your videos would look much better besides being already very informative.
I hope to someday! Thanks for watching :)
The bottom line for me is: there is so little difference in quality and so much in price, so buy the cheapest (W&N)!
Thanks for watching!
utrecht, discontinued.
lead white, lead carbonate, also known as flake white is a heavy metal one of those who doesn't leave the body at all. Try not to get on your skin, it has a very high rate of migration with the tissue of any cellular level, try not to eat or smoking/vaping while using the paint. And no, milk or chelating agents don't work. So, be safe.
Thank you for the thoughful comment! As far as I've heard lead carbonate pigment particles are too large to absorb thorugh the skin, but I also always use a barrier cream called "Gloves in a Bottle" when i am painting just to be sure. I am very careful with my studio practices. :) Thanks for watching!
Walcott Fine Art Hi there, but, what about washing your brushes? I don’t want the lead to go down the drain, right? We live out in the country and the water goes down into the field from our drain
@@amandawilner1486 I also had the same concern. I only wash it with Pure Gum Turpentine. I’ve learned this at Andrew Tischler’s channel.