They intentionally built on land they knew had no water. They wanted to build on land outside of a cities jurisdiction to avoid taxes, regulations, and yes infrastructure. But they also want to benefit from all those things, freeloading off Scottsdale tax payers. The people who built out there are very wealthy and overbuilt by taking advantage of the legislatures short sightness.
many bought homes that had a well and the well either is permanently dry or makes mudd so hauled water was the only solution, then wildcat builders came in and soon it became around 700 homes either on water or occaional fill as their well is not able to keep up
Exactly. These are homes on an acre plus in pristine desert. They knew about this over a year ago but didn't believe it. Where is Gila getting water? They have a problem with Pine/Strawberry dry wells and those homes have decades of history. There's small older communities in SE Az running dry. Someone needs to cut off wildcat communities in favor of established ones. The wealthy don't like hearing "no".
How selfish does one have to be to demand a city you do NOT live in, pay no fees or taxes to provide you with a service? The sense of privilege and entitlement with these clowns is amazing...
Hard fought for by the Native American community water rights are going to be used in a community that should not have been allowed to be built? Water that is treated somewhere other than Scottsdale will flow through a system that has to be maintained by Scottsdale without cost to Rio Verde? Those that developers and lawmakers should be put out of business and voted out that profited and forced to buy back properties. Maybe they can buy back some of the water they allowed to be used to grow feed going overseas!
We don't want to pay the taxes they do in Scottsdale but we want their water. They built the infrastructure and are responsible for water quality and have control over kt. Who built a community with no water. That's irresponsible.
I dont agree with what scottsdale did but you are not entitled to Scottsdales water the best solution is to be annexed by Scottsdale. Other wise no water dumb dumb
As a Scottsdale resident, I say "no" to processing water for Rio Verde. Let them get the water from the San Carlos reservation and process it with some other cities water treatment plant.
The responsibility is not on San Carlos or any other Native Reservation to help fix some rich community who was warned for years this was going to happen. Why did you Scottsdale folks supply Rio Verde Foothills in the first place? Should've said no to them. Instead you guys got them depending on you. So in a way, it's your problem.
@@hailoweenhailoween5264 no, it's not their problem. They warned them for years that they wouldn't be supplying them with water forever. Scottsdale`s problem was they were too nice. The only ones to blame are the Rio Verde residents, and they need to go without water.
Also- kick out foreign and out of state entities consuming our resources and outright ban such deals even via third party. Why are we allowing the Saudis to use our groundwater rent free?
So why in the middle of a water crisis are we opening up a freaking water park in Glendale? All these people care about is money and how can they get more.
We should be asking Tom Galvin from this video why he was a lobbyist for the Saudi company exporting alfalfa out of the country, and why don’t they ask the Saudi’s to help these people.
Wow, so first these country club residents of Rio Verde who CHOSE to live in an unincorporated town with no municipal services (yay for libertarianism, right?) are going to take water from the Native American reservation (where water probably is a limited commodity, as well) and then they are demanding that Scottsdale "process" it for free, as if water treatment and the maintenance of water treatment equipment is EVER free. Maybe, if they want Scottsadale to process the water for them, there should be some money on the table. That's not being "political". It's just a fact of American society.
SMH, it’s like drinking somebody else’s case of water just because it’s there. When, in fact, the water belongs to someone else that claimed it decades before they arrived. Why do community get in bed with these developers without researching the developers first?!
It has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. Residents of Rio Verde choose to live in an unincorporated city that doesn’t have access to water or city services. Apparently from what I read that is that Scottsdale has been warning them for years about it. If the residents of Rio Verde are looking for someone to sue then they need to sue the developers.
I have mixed feelings about how the Scottsdale mayor handles this. On the one hand, it's a d*ck move. On the other, he gave Rio Verde a year's notice to figure something out, and they did not. I also like that this is bringing national attention to the water crisis; hopefully, with more attention, our politicians will feel motivated to do something.
The mayor is playing politics--he thinks the city likes this--a strong mayor meanwhile the golfcourses that are located next to us in the Foothills are lush and green with daily water
@@Kim-mn1cl "reclaimed" water on those courses. I have a good hunch that's a scam. Hobbs is looking into those claims. And a huge water resort going up in west valley because, you know, tourists come to the desert to go surfing and play on the beach.
They intentionally built on land they knew had no water. They wanted to build on land outside of a cities jurisdiction to avoid taxes, regulations, and yes infrastructure. But they also want to benefit from all those things, freeloading off Scottsdale tax payers. The people who built out there are very wealthy and overbuilt by taking advantage of the legislatures short sightness.
Yes! Exactly.
They should never have been allowed to build there.
many bought homes that had a well and the well either is permanently dry or makes mudd so hauled water was the only solution, then wildcat builders came in and soon it became around 700 homes either on water or occaional fill as their well is not able to keep up
Exactly. These are homes on an acre plus in pristine desert. They knew about this over a year ago but didn't believe it. Where is Gila getting water? They have a problem with Pine/Strawberry dry wells and those homes have decades of history. There's small older communities in SE Az running dry. Someone needs to cut off wildcat communities in favor of established ones. The wealthy don't like hearing "no".
Exactly!
How selfish does one have to be to demand a city you do NOT live in, pay no fees or taxes to provide you with a service? The sense of privilege and entitlement with these clowns is amazing...
I agree, if you move to a place that has this type of water infrastructure you're imbecilic. Huh, We're 60% water let's move to the sun.
They finally realized rich people don't get sympathy from the public so they decided to bring animals into the story.
These homeowners are beyond entitled. Yes the water is available for Scottsdale residents who pay taxes for that access.
Hard fought for by the Native American community water rights are going to be used in a community that should not have been allowed to be built? Water that is treated somewhere other than Scottsdale will flow through a system that has to be maintained by Scottsdale without cost to Rio Verde? Those that developers and lawmakers should be put out of business and voted out that profited and forced to buy back properties. Maybe they can buy back some of the water they allowed to be used to grow feed going overseas!
Yes. I was shocked.
Excellent post. I didn't think about that. You are so right. Our legislature is worthless.
Water shortages already occurring in Phoenix area and New Home construction continues Unabated in areas West of Phoenix
It's disgusting, and they are lying to us about how bad the water situation is. I hope Scottsdale fights this to the end.
We don't want to pay the taxes they do in Scottsdale but we want their water. They built the infrastructure and are responsible for water quality and have control over kt. Who built a community with no water. That's irresponsible.
I dont agree with what scottsdale did but you are not entitled to Scottsdales water the best solution is to be annexed by Scottsdale. Other wise no water dumb dumb
As a Scottsdale resident, I say "no" to processing water for Rio Verde. Let them get the water from the San Carlos reservation and process it with some other cities water treatment plant.
The responsibility is not on San Carlos or any other Native Reservation to help fix some rich community who was warned for years this was going to happen. Why did you Scottsdale folks supply Rio Verde Foothills in the first place? Should've said no to them. Instead you guys got them depending on you. So in a way, it's your problem.
@@hailoweenhailoween5264 Not according to the Arizona Superior Court. They just ruled on the side of the City of Scottsdale. :)
@@bbaz6729 Residents of Rio Verde Foothills think it's your responsibility. 🤣
@@hailoweenhailoween5264 no, it's not their problem. They warned them for years that they wouldn't be supplying them with water forever. Scottsdale`s problem was they were too nice. The only ones to blame are the Rio Verde residents, and they need to go without water.
"Wildcat Subdivisions" I like that term.
Stop building house’s!!!
Kind of ironic Rio Verde is literally feet from the Verde River
Also- kick out foreign and out of state entities consuming our resources and outright ban such deals even via third party.
Why are we allowing the Saudis to use our groundwater rent free?
Africa 🌍
I was going to say what about some of the Native American reservations that still don't have clean water.
So they are gonna take this water from the Native Americans now???
Why is this the mayors issue they don’t reside in the town
0:45 Wow.
So why in the middle of a water crisis are we opening up a freaking water park in Glendale? All these people care about is money and how can they get more.
We should be asking Tom Galvin from this video why he was a lobbyist for the Saudi company exporting alfalfa out of the country, and why don’t they ask the Saudi’s to help these people.
Wow, so first these country club residents of Rio Verde who CHOSE to live in an unincorporated town with no municipal services (yay for libertarianism, right?) are going to take water from the Native American reservation (where water probably is a limited commodity, as well) and then they are demanding that Scottsdale "process" it for free, as if water treatment and the maintenance of water treatment equipment is EVER free. Maybe, if they want Scottsadale to process the water for them, there should be some money on the table. That's not being "political". It's just a fact of American society.
SMH, it’s like drinking somebody else’s case of water just because it’s there. When, in fact, the water belongs to someone else that claimed it decades before they arrived. Why do community get in bed with these developers without researching the developers first?!
It's called money under the table.
@@bug2011 , oh, gosh. Are they able to form their own town? Idk anything about development except that it pays bank, obviously. 🫤
Water wars have begun.
This what happens when you vote republican LOL
It has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. Residents of Rio Verde choose to live in an unincorporated city that doesn’t have access to water or city services. Apparently from what I read that is that Scottsdale has been warning them for years about it. If the residents of Rio Verde are looking for someone to sue then they need to sue the developers.
How about we get out of that lease that allows Saudi Arabians to take as much water as they want. How about that?
Because that mess less money for politicians and we can’t have that
I would ship you people a big iceberg from Antartica, but getting through California with it would be a NIGHTMARE 😅
Rio Verde is not part of the city.
Please help these’s millionaires
Why don't the pool together their money to buy water deliveries or build something. Dang. I invented taxes. Taxation is theft.
I have mixed feelings about how the Scottsdale mayor handles this.
On the one hand, it's a d*ck move.
On the other, he gave Rio Verde a year's notice to figure something out, and they did not.
I also like that this is bringing national attention to the water crisis; hopefully, with more attention, our politicians will feel motivated to do something.
Your thinking white bro. They would rather give donkey waters instead of tax payers or schools with children. It's not there water
Political motivations sound scary.
It is a dick move, all they want is water processing for 2-3 years untill Epcor gets infrastructure built for these guys
The mayor is playing politics--he thinks the city likes this--a strong mayor meanwhile the golfcourses that are located next to us in the Foothills are lush and green with daily water
@@Kim-mn1cl "reclaimed" water on those courses. I have a good hunch that's a scam. Hobbs is looking into those claims. And a huge water resort going up in west valley because, you know, tourists come to the desert to go surfing and play on the beach.
Move. Pure Michigan.
Both mayors look like car salesman.
Water is a Human Right!
Then move to where the water is located.
Not in the Constitution ...
@@tjmayer9103 Great answer !!!
@@bug2011 Thank you bug ! I agree with your move comment.
Not according to republicans.
Bring water in by train for these poor people 😭
You are kidding, right? Do you even know the issues? Doesn't sound like you do.
Theres Indian reservations there somewhere, just ship there water to Rio Verde,