I'm one chapter in this book. It's slightly different than I was expecting. I thought there would be more about what it was like to live in the '90s. What is was like to have a landline. To watch cable. To rent movies. To buy CDs in a store. To read a physical newspaper. To look up a name in a phone book. To get pictures developed from film. To watch music videos on MTV. Some granular detail. So far it's all high flying abstraction: a long meditation on the ideals of irony and the concept of being a sellout, which is fascinating, but more of a doctoral thesis about the pop culture trends of the '90s than the experience of living through the '90s.
I'm a big fan of CK, and I've read all his books. This new one is interesting, but much of it is a rehash of the topics he's written about before. Nirvana, Garth Brooks, Seinfeld, OJ, Lewinsky, MTV's Real World, etc.
@@tomtimelord7876 He's pretty much made all the jokes he can make. I'd like to see him have a podcast where he interviews people instead of guesting on other people's podcasts.
Damn bought it on amazon. Would love a signed copy. Fargo Rock City is my Catcher in the rye just to say. I read that book literally fifteen plus times.
You have not said it yet but in the 80's and 90's there was still a sense of "moving toward the future" and I do feel like it has stopped. We have arrived at a place where we say "what is there to invent? or inventions seem more dangerous and destructive than helpful. AI, genetic engineering, exotic fuels, etc.
The cancellation of the future is an interesting thought. I heard a promo on the radio the other day and the announcer said, “WKYE, playing the best of the 80s, 90s, and today.” But. Today is almost a quarter century old.
I guess. Kind of a odd take for someone who is on to talk about anything. I clicked on this to hear him speak. People who are verbose or hyper articulate can come off as rambling or long winded when in reality their just able to express in an ever fascinating manner. Sure it can be a little cerebral for some but asking a writer like Klosterman to would not like to hear himself talk seems like a weird take when that ease of communicating is the point.
"The Best Super Bowl Trailers and Movies in the ’90s, According to Chuck Klosterman" - That podcast is the definition of a sell-out. 1.) The entire thing is fluff. 2.) Chuck Klosterman just fills time talking while he doesn't even come to a conclusion on really anything. 3.) Chuck Klosterman's verbal skills are TERRIBLE. 4.) Chuck Klosterman really is the definition of a sell-out: He does anything for money and media attention. He doesn't care about quality or any type of value to pursue for culture. 5.) Chuck Klosterman will change any of his views simply to sell more, he doesn't believe in anything. 6.) Chuck Klosterman really doesn't have very good taste, it is like he spent most of his life inside a house or an apartment. Don't waste your time on that podcast, it is terrible.
Well as far as him being a sell out I mean.... you know he has a couple young kids and all.....The mans got mouths to feed and all. Idk I have noticed he’s changed a little bit in recently years. I think he’s kinda confused about a lot of things as he’s getting older. I’m not suggesting a cognitive decline I’m saying I think he doesn’t know what he values anymore. You can kinda when he talks about not enjoying writing he just does it because he’ll feel bad if he doesn’t. I read his short story book and a lot of it is from the perspective of a man who’s stuck in the middle of modern cultural trends. A world with prevailing feminists and political correct attitudes for someone who grew up in a different time can be a little jarring. He feels the need to conform but deep down he feels the whole thing is just silly. With Bill Simmons he even talked about struggling with the idea of happiness because he’s gotten to the point where he’s attached to some old definition of happiness instead of actually being happy. Anyway I don’t know how true a lot of that stuff is but that’s been my sense for awhile.
@@turner4243 "I read his short story book and a lot of it is from the perspective of a man who’s stuck in the middle of modern cultural trends." - I couldn't agree more, very well-stated.
@@turner4243 The trends today are so braindead that only a complete follower would even entertain them. People make it trendy to do things like insult others, to devalue the past (even for things they use), to call everything "old," and to only focus on other's flaws.
@@turner4243 "you know he has a couple young kids and all" - Is it a trend for people to avoid accountability by identifying themselves as parents? When did that start? Whatever parent started such a selfish move needs to send their kids to an adoption agency.
@@btetschner “take responsibility for his actions” according to you he made a lazy podcast it’s not like he started a cult to defraud his followers out of all their money. It kinda reminds me of my my opinion of the current state of family guy. The show went from something that had soul and character to a mindless series of gags until the episode is over. I think everyone that has to do with that show knows it’s been past it’s prime since like 2007 and that they are just doing it for the money now. You could say “they are a bunch of sellouts who perpetuate a dead show in order to live comfortably and send their kids to college” but look at it from their perspective. Most of the people involved in that show are in their 40s and 50s that might not even have an avenue to make “real art” or the talent to. They can write for w show that’s still modestly entertaining at times and isn’t hurting anyone and provide for themselves and their family. I think chuck is in the same position in a way. I don’t think he’s fallen very far though I haven’t read this book yet but it is probably very insightful and entertaining to read. There is a selfish element to it but I think we have to tolerate that to some extent in society. I think if the cost isn’t too high sometimes you just gotta let people leach a little bit.
We need wayyy more Chuck Klosterman on RUclips. Please Chuck, start your own podcast. LEGEND
Agreed, but he never will. Unfortunately….
He actually had a podcast for a while. It's called Music Exists with Chuck Klosterman and Chris Ryan. I think it is on a hiatus,.
Chuck is a great conduit to many touch-points of my youth. Chuck is a great writer, teacher, and all around cool older sibling for all of us.
Chuck Klosterman is the GOAT
I adore this book so much I'm watching interviews on it.
It wasn’t boring at all Chuck, in fact quite the opposite. Thank you and the book is great too.
A faboulous work - my god it is good! Best wishes from Europe!
I'm one chapter in this book. It's slightly different than I was expecting. I thought there would be more about what it was like to live in the '90s. What is was like to have a landline. To watch cable. To rent movies. To buy CDs in a store. To read a physical newspaper. To look up a name in a phone book. To get pictures developed from film. To watch music videos on MTV. Some granular detail. So far it's all high flying abstraction: a long meditation on the ideals of irony and the concept of being a sellout, which is fascinating, but more of a doctoral thesis about the pop culture trends of the '90s than the experience of living through the '90s.
I'm a big fan of CK, and I've read all his books. This new one is interesting, but much of it is a rehash of the topics he's written about before. Nirvana, Garth Brooks, Seinfeld, OJ, Lewinsky, MTV's Real World, etc.
@@NJGuy1973 I agree. I still find him thought provoking, but not nearly as funny.
@@tomtimelord7876 He's pretty much made all the jokes he can make. I'd like to see him have a podcast where he interviews people instead of guesting on other people's podcasts.
@@NJGuy1973 That would be good. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when he's interviewing Thom Yorke or Noel Gallagher or someone.
@@NJGuy1973 he is an expert though- I think we’d all agree
My third-favorite Oasis song is Live Forever fwiw
Damn bought it on amazon. Would love a signed copy. Fargo Rock City is my Catcher in the rye just to say. I read that book literally fifteen plus times.
Powell's City of Books do not have overseas shipping. So unfortunate.
You have not said it yet but in the 80's and 90's there was still a sense of "moving toward the future" and I do feel like it has stopped. We have arrived at a place where we say "what is there to invent? or inventions seem more dangerous and destructive than helpful. AI, genetic engineering, exotic fuels, etc.
I could add “something” to Klosterman’s prose but... he’s so awesome that it is unnecessary
Damn, it got dark as hell 😂
The cancellation of the future is an interesting thought. I heard a promo on the radio the other day and the announcer said, “WKYE, playing the best of the 80s, 90s, and today.”
But. Today is almost a quarter century old.
He likes to hear himself talk
Literally the point of this video is for him to just talk.
Not a problem
I guess. Kind of a odd take for someone who is on to talk about anything. I clicked on this to hear him speak. People who are verbose or hyper articulate can come off as rambling or long winded when in reality their just able to express in an ever fascinating manner. Sure it can be a little cerebral for some but asking a writer like Klosterman to would not like to hear himself talk seems like a weird take when that ease of communicating is the point.
And that’s fine
"The Best Super Bowl Trailers and Movies in the ’90s, According to Chuck Klosterman" - That podcast is the definition of a sell-out.
1.) The entire thing is fluff.
2.) Chuck Klosterman just fills time talking while he doesn't even come to a conclusion on really anything.
3.) Chuck Klosterman's verbal skills are TERRIBLE.
4.) Chuck Klosterman really is the definition of a sell-out: He does anything for money and media attention. He doesn't care about quality or any type of value to pursue for culture.
5.) Chuck Klosterman will change any of his views simply to sell more, he doesn't believe in anything.
6.) Chuck Klosterman really doesn't have very good taste, it is like he spent most of his life inside a house or an apartment.
Don't waste your time on that podcast, it is terrible.
Well as far as him being a sell out I mean.... you know he has a couple young kids and all.....The mans got mouths to feed and all. Idk I have noticed he’s changed a little bit in recently years. I think he’s kinda confused about a lot of things as he’s getting older. I’m not suggesting a cognitive decline I’m saying I think he doesn’t know what he values anymore. You can kinda when he talks about not enjoying writing he just does it because he’ll feel bad if he doesn’t. I read his short story book and a lot of it is from the perspective of a man who’s stuck in the middle of modern cultural trends. A world with prevailing feminists and political correct attitudes for someone who grew up in a different time can be a little jarring. He feels the need to conform but deep down he feels the whole thing is just silly. With Bill Simmons he even talked about struggling with the idea of happiness because he’s gotten to the point where he’s attached to some old definition of happiness instead of actually being happy.
Anyway I don’t know how true a lot of that stuff is but that’s been my sense for awhile.
@@turner4243 "I read his short story book and a lot of it is from the perspective of a man who’s stuck in the middle of modern cultural trends." - I couldn't agree more, very well-stated.
@@turner4243 The trends today are so braindead that only a complete follower would even entertain them.
People make it trendy to do things like insult others, to devalue the past (even for things they use), to call everything "old," and to only focus on other's flaws.
@@turner4243 "you know he has a couple young kids and all" - Is it a trend for people to avoid accountability by identifying themselves as parents? When did that start? Whatever parent started such a selfish move needs to send their kids to an adoption agency.
@@btetschner “take responsibility for his actions” according to you he made a lazy podcast it’s not like he started a cult to defraud his followers out of all their money. It kinda reminds me of my my opinion of the current state of family guy. The show went from something that had soul and character to a mindless series of gags until the episode is over. I think everyone that has to do with that show knows it’s been past it’s prime since like 2007 and that they are just doing it for the money now. You could say “they are a bunch of sellouts who perpetuate a dead show in order to live comfortably and send their kids to college” but look at it from their perspective. Most of the people involved in that show are in their 40s and 50s that might not even have an avenue to make “real art” or the talent to. They can write for w show that’s still modestly entertaining at times and isn’t hurting anyone and provide for themselves and their family. I think chuck is in the same position in a way. I don’t think he’s fallen very far though I haven’t read this book yet but it is probably very insightful and entertaining to read. There is a selfish element to it but I think we have to tolerate that to some extent in society. I think if the cost isn’t too high sometimes you just gotta let people leach a little bit.