Cost, batteries, that only matters to homeowners. When it comes to pros, the ONLY thing that matters is how does it do in the field and what kind of warranty you're getting. Nothing lasts forever, but you're not going to buy something that you have to keep replacing. I can't wait to start buying Flex tools. They continually up the game. They remind of me Bosch when they were at their height, just dominating everything across the board. When you bought a Bosch, you knew you could beat it like it owed you money and it'd just turn around and say, "Thank you sir. May I have another?" Now, I'm far from a DeFault fan. In fact, I hate them because when I was running my own company and a brand new compressor I bought from them failed, they refused to honor the warranty and told me that it was going to cost me $150 to replace the motor of a NEW compressor that I was using on my first job with it. I told them to go to hell. Having said that, 20V vs 24V is not a fair test. Of course the Flex (which I'll be buying from now on) is going to cream the DeFault.
If you put more load on a dril/driver it will make it run slower since youre adding weight thus needing more torque so ... Its the opposite but yeah you need a balance
I have DeWalt stuff, and have no issues with the results here. The issue with Flex is how heavy it is, and how (currently) limited their tool range is compared to DeWalt. I'm not a pro, and I'll never use either tool at its limits, so comfort is really my biggest issue, and DeWalt tools have great grips that just feel awesome in the hand. Mix that with a much lighter tool, and that's a good combo. Personally I'd go with the 850 in any case, then you also got a much smaller tool as well. With all that said, if Flex sticks around and expands their range, I'll certainly consider them in the future. I love my Ego lawn stuff, and I love how much more modern of a take Flex has on tools, so I hope they push the other makers to modernize their feature sets.
I think the 887 was released in 2015 (or announced/showcased) The 845 is actually about the same as the 887 believe it or not… it’s a let down… luckily Dewalt introduced the 860 that’s coming out soon… it’s definitely 🔥
@carlosf9278 Its not about the same it's faster and yes it's a disappointment. The 860 vibration is out of control from what I've watched from tools with soalz
@carlosf9278 Its not about the same it's faster and yes it's a disappointment. The 860 vibration is out of control from what I've watched from tools with soalz
@@FoxOutdoors not even by much lol. The 845 might as well be the 887v2😂. I love my 887 tho. So I might like the 845 as well tbh… but am definitely going for the 860 because I want it And depending on what you’re doing with it, the vibration will either be negligible or really noticeable… I’m just a general contractor so I doubt I’ll notice it since I’ll mostly be using the impact driver for 4in screws or smaller Maybe if you’re a mechanic or someone that doesn’t like using a drill for large screws/fasterners
Because it's Pointless! The new DeWalt XR 845 got beaten by Flex so easily and effortlessly only Standard 18650 cell 5Ah battery. We also tried the new DeWalt power stack 5Ah vs Flex 6Ah Stack lithium and The DeWalt is not even Close enough to win. Even The Milwaukee Gen4 M18 Fuel with High Output. But we're gonna do the test again because we're waiting for the new Milwaukee's 6Ah Forge Battery in our town.
I like flex tools as I have 5. However, as other people commented the lineup of tools for Flex is limited. I do hope they come out with additional tools as it is nice to use one tool platform for battery purposes.
I have both dewalt amd flex. I can say without question flex is insanely good. With fkwx releasing new tools on the regular its a matter of time till they have as many options as dewalt
We're phasing out Dewalt. Replaced our xr impact, drill and reciprocating saw with Flex basic brushless, not even the BL. Just blows em out of the water. But we're also going to Milwaukee simply cuz ofthe variety.
This is an excellent review and it is impressive. I own a lot of Flex tool (over $250K) and based on the video, I will throw away my Flex tools and start investing into the future by upgrading to DeWALT. Thanks for your suggestion.
If you have a lot and switched then you must not be extremely bright by changing. To the point, you are not not a dummy and therefore, you do not have a lot when switching over. Remember, this is Flex Tool not to be confused with Festool
Who’s the manufacturer of that socket adapter on the flex? My flex set on 3 will twist off that adapter within a couple uses, with it set on 2 it might last a couple days, the best I’ve found was the stubby Milwaukee but them to won’t last no more than 3-4 days
A brand new model vs. one that is nearly a decade old? I'm no fanboy either way, my power tool bench looks like skittles, but c'mon. How about giving it a fair comparo. Why not the 850 or 840?
Weight is a big thing. If your using the tool overhead. Also all day long if you use a lighter tool you will be working faster. If I need to drive Bolts, I use the right tool an impact wrench. The impact driver is for driving screws, not breaking lug nuts off a truck. But yes the Flex warranty is hard to beat. And it has the power if you need it.
The dcf840 blows the 887 out of the water in both power and speed I have the 887 too but I would like to see this same test with the dcf840 if possible Thx.
Flex, Marita, Milwaukee and dewalt are good tools I know some don’t like the weight of flex tools but to me flex feels like a better made tool dewalt and Milwaukee both seem to have a lot of fit and finish issues
Dewalt is not what it used to be they have a fit and finish problem I’ve bought a few that had trigger problems and chuck problems they used to be on top when the were 100% American made and not owned by black and decker- stanley
Both batteries are 5Ah, but the Flex battery has 24V and DeWalt has only 20V. If anyone here has a degree in physics, please explain how the Flex battery does not contain 20% more energy than the DeWalt battery. Concidering U*I*time = E
the working voltage is closer to 18 vs 19 or 20. sizes of sockets/and bits and weight of the tool and battery all matter more. Ultimately the better built tool always wins thats why m18 fuel smokes 40 volt ryobi, 40 makita. Flex in some cases loses to the 36V hikoki impact so.... it really matters how hard the impacts hit and calculate the Force --> Force = Mass of the internal hammers x Acceleration of the anvils - some of the impact is lost in thicker bit holders and extensions of course. speed if you're a pro is important but for the everyday joe shmoe I'd grab the lighter dewalt. I've been wanting to go all in on flex 100% but the weight of their tools has me on the fence. Great quality tools from both brands but I'm in 8 + platforms and go with whatever tool can get the job done without transferring shock, vibrations, impact, or bad grips to me. People should go for good tools that wear themselves out and not the user.
I used to use DeWalt, but when they switched from 18v to 20v that really made me mad. The adapter they came up with was a joke. In my opinion this was a scam to get you to buy DeWalt tools all over again. I bought all new tool but they were all Flex. DeWalt? Never again!
Lol it drives screws a millisecond slower, must be junk. You people are funny. I’ll take a battery line with 200+ tools over one with less than 75 from LOWES anyday. I’m not even a Dewalt guy but I know flex ain’t sh*t.
@@ryanhewett1820I have both of these and like you said much more to offer than flex although they are starting to get more tools out, my major complaint with flex is the weight so I don’t even use it
@@ryanhewett1820flex has been around since the 50s . They created the angle grinder. Dewalt I think should be used for lighter work . Flex is all heavy duty
Not a fair comparison with an old impact vs newer one I'll take one that's half the weight even if it's less powerful most of those tests weren't even for what you'd use an impact for terrible video
These tests were filmed over a year ago, before stacked lithium was readily available to us. We've got more head to heads dropping soon where Flex stacked lithium and advanced batteries from other brands will be featured. Stay tuned! 👊🏻
The poor 887 has been fighting the good fight on yt for almost a decade lol
Cost, batteries, that only matters to homeowners. When it comes to pros, the ONLY thing that matters is how does it do in the field and what kind of warranty you're getting. Nothing lasts forever, but you're not going to buy something that you have to keep replacing. I can't wait to start buying Flex tools. They continually up the game. They remind of me Bosch when they were at their height, just dominating everything across the board. When you bought a Bosch, you knew you could beat it like it owed you money and it'd just turn around and say, "Thank you sir. May I have another?" Now, I'm far from a DeFault fan. In fact, I hate them because when I was running my own company and a brand new compressor I bought from them failed, they refused to honor the warranty and told me that it was going to cost me $150 to replace the motor of a NEW compressor that I was using on my first job with it. I told them to go to hell.
Having said that, 20V vs 24V is not a fair test. Of course the Flex (which I'll be buying from now on) is going to cream the DeFault.
I have combo sets of both. Give me the flex all day. Yes, heavier but that extra heavyness helps in driving power.
If you put more load on a dril/driver it will make it run slower since youre adding weight thus needing more torque so ...
Its the opposite but yeah you need a balance
I have DeWalt stuff, and have no issues with the results here. The issue with Flex is how heavy it is, and how (currently) limited their tool range is compared to DeWalt. I'm not a pro, and I'll never use either tool at its limits, so comfort is really my biggest issue, and DeWalt tools have great grips that just feel awesome in the hand. Mix that with a much lighter tool, and that's a good combo. Personally I'd go with the 850 in any case, then you also got a much smaller tool as well. With all that said, if Flex sticks around and expands their range, I'll certainly consider them in the future. I love my Ego lawn stuff, and I love how much more modern of a take Flex has on tools, so I hope they push the other makers to modernize their feature sets.
The 887 was released in 2016, what are yall doing not testing out the 845? Also both companies have stacked lithium batteries, why not test those?
I think the 887 was released in 2015 (or announced/showcased)
The 845 is actually about the same as the 887 believe it or not… it’s a let down… luckily Dewalt introduced the 860 that’s coming out soon… it’s definitely 🔥
@carlosf9278 Its not about the same it's faster and yes it's a disappointment. The 860 vibration is out of control from what I've watched from tools with soalz
@carlosf9278 Its not about the same it's faster and yes it's a disappointment. The 860 vibration is out of control from what I've watched from tools with soalz
@@FoxOutdoors not even by much lol. The 845 might as well be the 887v2😂. I love my 887 tho. So I might like the 845 as well tbh… but am definitely going for the 860 because I want it
And depending on what you’re doing with it, the vibration will either be negligible or really noticeable… I’m just a general contractor so I doubt I’ll notice it since I’ll mostly be using the impact driver for 4in screws or smaller
Maybe if you’re a mechanic or someone that doesn’t like using a drill for large screws/fasterners
The DCF887M2 kit might be a fairer price comparison, with two 4AH batteries rather than the 2AHs.
Why wouldn’t you put it up against the new Dewalt XR?
Exactly lol
😅
It doesn't matter bro flex would've blown it out of the water anyway
Because it's Pointless! The new DeWalt XR 845 got beaten by Flex so easily and effortlessly only Standard 18650 cell 5Ah battery. We also tried the new DeWalt power stack 5Ah vs Flex 6Ah Stack lithium and The DeWalt is not even Close enough to win. Even The Milwaukee Gen4 M18 Fuel with High Output. But we're gonna do the test again because we're waiting for the new Milwaukee's 6Ah Forge Battery in our town.
@@littlecedar3425 lol flex boy, get a real proven longevity tool called... DEWALT.
I like flex tools as I have 5. However, as other people commented the lineup of tools for Flex is limited. I do hope they come out with additional tools as it is nice to use one tool platform for battery purposes.
Nailer already announced
Table saw in route and miter saws just after so what was you saying about the FLEX Platform now Mrs @CrazyGlasses
@@rickyperkins232 Lifetime warranty extended 3rd year running, until 2024.
@@athannaelanderson3806Anth that's such good news.
I just completed a roofing project and the 24v Flex impact out performed my 20v Dewalt impact.
The results were as expected; not really a wonder tbh. Not really a fair comparison IMO, the 887 is really getting long in the tooth.
I have both. I like the flex because of the fast charging & warranty.
Lol
@@tysonoovayuk8663 after 3 month of use in various project I changed my mind. I like the Dewalt with 5 ah powerstack battery.
I have both dewalt amd flex. I can say without question flex is insanely good. With fkwx releasing new tools on the regular its a matter of time till they have as many options as dewalt
We're phasing out Dewalt. Replaced our xr impact, drill and reciprocating saw with Flex basic brushless, not even the BL. Just blows em out of the water. But we're also going to Milwaukee simply cuz ofthe variety.
This is an excellent review and it is impressive. I own a lot of Flex tool (over $250K) and based on the video, I will throw away my Flex tools and start investing into the future by upgrading to DeWALT.
Thanks for your suggestion.
I had a lot of dewalt and switched to flex . Dewalt is underpowered but good for light use
If you have a lot and switched then you must not be extremely bright by changing. To the point, you are not not a dummy and therefore, you do not have a lot when switching over.
Remember, this is Flex Tool not to be confused with Festool
Their suggestion was impliedly the opposite of that. Nice post, DeWalt Sales Team.
FLEX won the competition, though..
vâng, a nổ rất to đấy😂
I've always been a dewalt guy. But that was when they were made in America. But that's gonna change if the sawzaws are that much better
Who’s the manufacturer of that socket adapter on the flex? My flex set on 3 will twist off that adapter within a couple uses, with it set on 2 it might last a couple days, the best I’ve found was the stubby Milwaukee but them to won’t last no more than 3-4 days
A brand new model vs. one that is nearly a decade old? I'm no fanboy either way, my power tool bench looks like skittles, but c'mon. How about giving it a fair comparo. Why not the 850 or 840?
Always how these channels do it to get clicks/ likes. Sad honestly
"my power tool bench looks like skittles"
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@YankeeWoodcraft Funny, but also true! Metabo HPT18/36, DeWalt20/12, M12, Kobalt24, Bauer20. But between them I've got exactly what I need! 😀
the 850 would be sad to watch that thing sucks lol but the new dcf860 flagship definitely let flex know not to forget Dewalt is still in the race!
@@TOOL_TECHNICAL the 850 wasn't sad when this comment originated. it was the new hotness at that time.
If you are going to compare a 24v flex to a 20v Dewalt, then may I suggest DeWalt Flex Volt a 60v impact drive.
DeWalt has the light at the right spot for no shadow.
A well placed LED is definitely a helpful feature! Thanks for watching.
Why are you using your fingers for the dewalt and your palm/wrist almost for the flex? You now a lot of people are going to call that out. Just saying
I like the Flex. Homeowner power house. I’ve owned several Dewalts. They seem to die at about age 5.
Flex is the powerhouse with ultimate lifetime warranty..! BAM..!
Lifetime warranty on a piece of junk leads to trash and goes boom!
Weight is a big thing. If your using the tool overhead. Also all day long if you use a lighter tool you will be working faster. If I need to drive Bolts, I use the right tool an impact wrench. The impact driver is for driving screws, not breaking lug nuts off a truck. But yes the Flex warranty is hard to beat. And it has the power if you need it.
Flex is for the big boys . Anything lighter feels like a toy to me💪🏻
Top for 2023 fle. V 2015 Dewalt. Seems fair.
Hahaha. How much does flex pay?
Maybe they’ll use other 8yr old models from different brands lol or better yet the brushed Dewalt DCF885 from like 2011
@@Bloodmoon1985 It's like how when you go to Lowe's they have demo tables with the FLEX Turbo vs the tiny base brushless Milwaukee one.
@@orijimiLowe's doesn't even sell Milwaukee. You have no credibility and should stop commenting lol
@@Rufsam24 Can I reply to this comment in any capacity, RUclips?
@@Rufsam24 So, no matter what I do to circumvent filters I can't mask a link to a photo I took of this exact thing.
There is not the same dewalt drill. We want a comparison video with the dewalt drill from the beginning of the video
So in your little clip you show thedcf850 FLAGSHIP model Dewalt
But run the old 887 again flex new range I’m seriously puzzled to you fixing videos 😂
The dcf840 blows the 887 out of the water in both power and speed I have the 887 too but I would like to see this same test with the dcf840 if possible Thx.
Same with the DCF845, they both have 4200 IPM compared to the 887's 3600IPM.
Flex, Marita, Milwaukee and dewalt are good tools I know some don’t like the weight of flex tools but to me flex feels like a better made tool dewalt and Milwaukee both seem to have a lot of fit and finish issues
That's great insight, thanks for sharing your opinion!
Sure the flex has more power but will it still work in a decade of being beat to shit?
Let’s find out 10 years from now
Dewalt is not what it used to be they have a fit and finish problem I’ve bought a few that had trigger problems and chuck problems they used to be on top when the were 100% American made and not owned by black and decker- stanley
Still love my 885...
I am gonna trade up for the Flex Line!
Not a bad call!
I use dewalt because I’ve had the batteries forever.
Both batteries are 5Ah, but the Flex battery has 24V and DeWalt has only 20V. If anyone here has a degree in physics, please explain how the Flex battery does not contain 20% more energy than the DeWalt battery. Concidering U*I*time = E
the working voltage is closer to 18 vs 19 or 20. sizes of sockets/and bits and weight of the tool and battery all matter more. Ultimately the better built tool always wins thats why m18 fuel smokes 40 volt ryobi, 40 makita. Flex in some cases loses to the 36V hikoki impact so.... it really matters how hard the impacts hit and calculate the Force --> Force = Mass of the internal hammers x Acceleration of the anvils - some of the impact is lost in thicker bit holders and extensions of course. speed if you're a pro is important but for the everyday joe shmoe I'd grab the lighter dewalt. I've been wanting to go all in on flex 100% but the weight of their tools has me on the fence. Great quality tools from both brands but I'm in 8 + platforms and go with whatever tool can get the job done without transferring shock, vibrations, impact, or bad grips to me. People should go for good tools that wear themselves out and not the user.
Flex is a torque monster
Is it only mee or hes arm working harder while pressing on that flex?
Should’ve used the 845 vs fx1371a .
I wouldn't change Flex for anything else.
Flex of course
I need both I have both ❤❤❤❤
I used to use DeWalt, but when they switched from 18v to 20v that really made me mad. The adapter they came up with was a joke. In my opinion this was a scam to get you to buy DeWalt tools all over again. I bought all new tool but they were all Flex. DeWalt? Never again!
The reality is there are more 887’s sold than any others. Everyone else is playing catch up.
Flex number 1 power tools
Does flex connect to other lawn equipment. If not I will not buy it. Milwaukee is King.
I love flex. DeWalt is overpriced for what it is
bare in mind the flex has 4 volt advantage
👍👍
They are not the same machine.
Of course the flex is better.
Dewalt has never made a good impact driver
Lol it drives screws a millisecond slower, must be junk. You people are funny. I’ll take a battery line with 200+ tools over one with less than 75 from LOWES anyday. I’m not even a Dewalt guy but I know flex ain’t sh*t.
@@ryanhewett1820 I don't think this is a serious statement, given this guy's affilation with Philly Fixed, but I could be wrong.
@@ryanhewett1820I have both of these and like you said much more to offer than flex although they are starting to get more tools out, my major complaint with flex is the weight so I don’t even use it
@@ryanhewett1820flex has been around since the 50s . They created the angle grinder. Dewalt I think should be used for lighter work . Flex is all heavy duty
@@glenarseneau1231u must have weak arms
Flex will take it.....
He looks like the "2 million/yr guy " that wants to reverse his age.
Not a fair comparison with an old impact vs newer one I'll take one that's half the weight even if it's less powerful most of those tests weren't even for what you'd use an impact for terrible video
STOP TESTING FLEX WITH 2.5 AND 5.0 BATTERIES! They deserve to have their test done with stacked lithium batteries.
These tests were filmed over a year ago, before stacked lithium was readily available to us. We've got more head to heads dropping soon where Flex stacked lithium and advanced batteries from other brands will be featured. Stay tuned! 👊🏻
@@Protoolreviews Good! I just had looked back and seen where it was posted on RUclips 9 months ago so I wasn’t sure.
Flex all day long.
Flex will take the win
Dewalt with 5 ah powerstack is more fast !
Flex
Won't buy flex until it's on Amazon
I’ll take the Dewalt.
Flex thank you
Flex sucks, DEWALT for proven Longevity.
Ill keep my DeWalt lol
The stupid video factory just keeps churning.
Care to elaborate?
🙄 "PromoSM"
I wouldn't change Flex for anything else.
I wouldn't change Flex for anything else.