Electric BYD Seagull size, price, power and range revealed
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2023
- Electric BYD Seagull size, price, power and range revealed
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BYD should bring one to the Fully Charged show to see what the public reaction is. I’m sure it would be a massively popular choice here for a city car
I'm sure that Wheelsboy will also make a video about this car. Both of them never miss any popular EV in China.
Yes, but the Australian distributor is utterly hopeless - even if forced to import the car it will overcharge for it. BYD needs to extricate itself from its troubled relationship with EVDirect.
Perhaps, but could get more coverage if they bring U8 and U9
There making the wrong choice not bringing that to Australia not every one cN afford $40,000 car, and it very good looking ev
@@chris27gea58Is parallel import not allowed in Australia?
They can get them for Thailand with a right hand drive for a good price
I’ve been waiting for a small affordable car for moderate distances and driving around town for years. If someone builds an electric equivalent of the Honda Fit, with its utility and versatility, it will be a killer product worldwide.
Urbanites need to be able to charge it without a big hassle.
Yep, I've driven a 2019 Fit for 3.5 years. Most practical vehicle with best performance for the money when I bought it. I suspect electric version is less than 2 years away.
@@cifeythe tech for this exists, and has for 5+ years. Lamp-post based, AC chargers. Slower than DC, but you're going to be parked there overnight, so no worries. 30 to 50 times cheaper to install than rapid chargers, and take up no extra space. Simple RFID tag to unlock & for billing. Done.
They did, the Zoe, we have one. The main problem was the price was too high here (we got it for $37k when they were running them out instead of the original $54k price). But has been a great little car, Australia so needs some EV options in that size of car. EVDirect are being pretty stupid not bringing in the Seagull. I still maintain BYD needs a better distributor here.
@@ledsalesoz the only model that works is Tesla's direct sales. Importers are greedy. If they can make the same money selling 1,000 cars at $15,000 profit, as 10,000 at $1,500 profit, which are they going to do? I know which one I'd do. Lol 🤣😆
The only way EV Direct win is over the likes of Hyundai, Kia, Peugeot, etc, where the importers are only interested in maintaining their ICE sales and profits, so price the EVs out of contention.
This is the kind of car the world needs.
Absolutely.
I hope we get it in New Zealand. I'd love this as my daily driver. We have the Atto 3 currently and I love it.
Agree. PLEASE BRING THIS CAR TO AUSTRALIA
BYD's biggest problem will be, they cannot make enough of them.
Australians are lucky. You don't have to live near this gunslinger country next door like Canadians and Mexicans do. Canadians and Mexicans hands will be tied by the NAFTA agreement and they will never see low cost BYD cars. If BYD enters these markets, they will be forced to sell the company like Tik Tok is being forced to sell.
@@northernsamba7388 I suspect you are right. I am very grateful not to live in a medieval theocracy
It's an amazing car. This is what affordable ev should be priced at.
Its heavily subsidised though
At a price of around 15 K it would be an enormous hit in Latin America. In Costa Rica electric cars don’t pay import tax and have other incentives like 15% deduction in insurance and anual road tax. Also fuel cost here is high and electricity is renewable and cheap.
中国国内价格预计8一10万人民币
Yea it would be huge in Costa Rica but let's be real, if they could sell it in the US for that price it would be equally huge.
@@gordo3582 nah it would be a national security issue for US
Range 405km, less than 13K in China. But your country maybe tax much from this car.
@@JiannanChen actually no in Costa Rica electric cars are exempt from import duties, get a lower road an ownership taxes for 5 years and a 15% reduction in insurance. Besides 98% of the grid is renewable.
the seagull looks really good! the design is really clean,sharp and energetic!
You are correct! - "it's a (surprisingly) cool-looking pink." It would sell in the U.S., even if not as popular as the shades of standard colors of white, black, red, blue and silver. Regarding the poor visibility out rear windows, seems like cameras should eliminate any problem along this line.
It doesn't have cameras so why mention it?
Oh… this is what I have been waiting for in the UK. It’s seems perfect and hopefully will be affordable
it will be affordable before the tax.
中国国内预估价格8-10万元人民币，仅供参考
its availiable in the UK and it's even cheaper its less than 8000 quid
Toyota Aygo in the UK is £16-18K.
If this comes to the UK at that price, their problem will be the length of the queues at the dealerships.
16k GBP is 20k USD. Even at less than half the cost of the average new car (48k USD) I don't see it selling well here. It's too small and will be heavier, reducing range, and much more expensive when beefed up to meet our safety standards. So heavy, slow, limited range and space for not much less than much more capable vehicles.
@@Noah_E Well last month the Dacia Spring was the best selling electric vehicle in France. It is smaller (80mm) with less power (33kw Vs 55kw) with a smaller battery (27.4kwh vs 30.7kw) and costs more. Yet people are buying as quickly as Dacia can make them.
The next cars up are the Fiat 500 and the Renault Zoe which are 50% more expensive.
@gavjlewis for reference, the closest car size and performance-wise recently was the Chevy Spark. Even heavily discounted, they didn't manage to sell 200k in 11 years (roughly 1,500 a month). Ford sold over 75k F-series trucks last month. Cars with such limited utility simply don't sell here
@@Noah_E well as he mentioned the Aygo and UK his comment wasn't aimed at the US market.
You indeed like big pickups, SUVs and mini vans. But you have big wide roads and parking. Here is Europe we don't.
I guess if you were paying $9 a gallon for gas then I'm sure some people would drive smaller cars! 😄
Big brother doesn't allow 😂😂😂
Love the exterior styling. Interior and some of the colors you showed, not so sure... Agree with others here that the Seagull would be a huge hit in much of the world (US included) at the price you mentioned. I don't think it will support supercharging given its price, but imagine if could. Its' max range may only be 180-200 miles, but with supercharging and it's small battery pack, it could charge from near zero to 80% in 10 minutes or less, making long-range trips plausible.
I'm not a pink color guy in general, but I agree that the particular shade shown in the vid is more tolerable that most.
Why do people think that you can just import something like this to the US at the same price as China? They would only send the version with the largest battery and then there's shipping and the additional 27.5% tariff. By the time it gets here, it would cost the same as a Chevy Bolt with more power, longer range and it's eligible for the $7500 tax credit.
Sam hates pink cars. Pink background lights on the other hand 😁
To be fair he said "i hate the colour pink on a car"
They should definitely bring it to Australia.
I would definitely want one of these at that price point
Me too, perfect run around car! I do about 350km a week and can charge at work
@AndyGKaufman hell yeah 😎👌
Would absolutely buy one of these, we currently drive a Zoe and that's 300mm longer than the Seagull, I really like the feel of a small car, they handle great, fit in lots of spaces big SUV tanks don't, tyres are cheaper, lots of advantages to driving small. Provided this meets crash safety requirements, it would be an excellent general purpose runaround for at least half the people in the country.
People worry that small cars don't have enough cargo space, but they do in most cases. We refer to the Zoe's boot as a tardis boot, you always seem to be able to fit a bit more in. The stuff we've carried in that thing is amazing, from 230kg of wood pellet bags (rear seat laid down), to all sorts of garden supplies etc from the hardware store. We have a subaru forester and yet we never use it, just don't need to, even though we are rural as well.
A whole foot longer? You’ve got to be joking
@@theairstig9164 Yep, the Seagull is a short little thing, I expect most of that difference is in the bonnet, the Zoe doesn't look like it has much of a bonnet but it's deceiving, there is a decent amount of car in front of you. Hopefully, the Seagull has been designed with some well-made crumple zones, because it will need it to get 4 stars or better.
That is amazing. No doubt it'll be marked up from that price but it does show that EVs are on their way big time, also that it's China + Tesla leading the way. I know you've been saying this all along, Viking but once us Brits actually see BYDs coming in it'll be a shock.
If BYD have been silly enough to sign up with an EVS Direct or whatever outfit for their distribution services in Australia and not sell the BEV type cars themselves, then they have set up another Australian monopoly situation. Good news is another EV company may fill the demand gap eventually. Why would the EVs Direct type outfit sell a small EV for ...say... under $20k and undermine the over $30K market place they are profiting from with many less unit to deal with. Very good work you did there Sam. You are right that BEV would sell here in Australia undoubtable.
I agree with you, Vike, and not just about Australia. No, the big U.S. market would love an $8800.00 Seagull! Granted, the Seagull wouldn’t take over the U.S. EV market completely. But, people who are careful with their dollars, would snap them up. And that American “careful” bunch is a sizable one. Regards, Bob Campbell
Looks like a Honda Fit. BYD will sell lots of these around the world. That’s why they are building a fleet of 10 cargo ships. I’m glad to own shares of BYD & Tesla.
I'd buy one in a heartbeat if they sold it in the States.
Would you? OK it's cheap but there is no real dealer or service network and no chain dealership can possibly touch it as there is zero margin. Even EV direct sales companies wont want it. US prices would be higher but then shipping and import duty adds as well.
With no service option locally, then what? battery pack is good and good reviews on BYD's other models but there are a lot of quality comments on BYD.
There is an argument for a more or less throw away price but a possible catch, there is no crash test safety data yet.
For the US, I don't see it working at a volume BYD would need. US likes its larger auto's even for only school runs or short city work. For the Asian market, it works.
@Colin WP
Think Apple store. Think Tesla store. BYD will do the same.
The so-called traditional dealerships are going out. Ford and GM are already pivoting away from their legacy sales models, severing the cord, why? To improve the customer experience.
I'm not saying dealerships don't have any value, but that ship is sinking
I will buy one as well just to commute to work and grocery shopping. Hope BYD starts selling in the states. But then, it is national security risk again. Pathetic.
I would if it was made by a non-chinese manufacturer but not as it stands.
@@Somebody294 please let us know what device you used for this comment and where it’s made?
Keep it up Sam! You are doing a great job....EVDirect - bring it to Australians!
Thanks Mate!
This is an insane car. Great job BYD ✌️
I live in Canada and our charging infrastructure is basically non-existent. A good mix for me would be to have a gasoline powered vehicle for travelling and highway use, supplemented with a second vehicle such as this for city driving. This appears to be a very nice little car. I'm retired, and it reminds me of a Honda Civic that purchased back in 1978. I would be interested in buying one if they were available here in Canada but I doubt that they will be sold here due to the political situation between the West and China. Thank you for the video.
Even if it did become available, it would probably be $45k like every other damn ev in Canada.
And 2 years wait list
Same in Australia, we do have some charging infrastructure but compared to many other countries it is non existent. Our cheapest EV's currently are around 45k. Thankfully some slightly cheaper models coming but not much cheaper. We need cars like the seagull.
比亚迪的dm-i混动车型更适合你。在中国，比亚迪销量的一半都是dm-i混动车型，它解决了电动车与汽油车的缺点，并兼顾二者的优点。遗憾的是，好像dm-i混动车型并未出口。
I looked today, BYD does not even operate in Canada. Why bother, when the world is so big and the vision of Canadian politicians are so narrow and short sighted. Oh well, lets see what new LGBTQ policy is the Canadian government peddling today!
It is sad! China B919 beginning first commercial flights, while Canada was forced to fire sale its home grown commercial airplane to Air Bus.
Good luck and cheers to A220.
Love it, colour and all.
Dacia Spring EV Cost 7000 in China, named Renault KZ E. In Nederland /EU the Price is 21.000 euro. So the Price of BYD Seagull 8000 in China will be 24.000 in Nederland/EU.
What a good looking car
Really nice! I love it too
Yes it's cute!!
Hell yeah!!! Bring it around 12.000€ in Europe and people will buy it like crazy!! That's what we need
If EVDirect says no to BYD Seagull, then it proves that they are the wrong distributor in Australia. Trying to flog cars at premium price but don't want to hold high inventory for future support. Does not seem interested to gain market share for long term brand. It will be embarassing if the Kiwis get BYD Seagull ahead of Australia.
Hah! A little competition going on there I see.
BYD won’t make a RHD model for Australia or NZ. EVDirect won’t get to make that choice
If it hit the States , even in top trim and the safety improvement costs added, it would sell well over 100,000 units without even trying.
That's simply not true. Chevy couldn't even sell 200k Sparks in 11 years and they were built better than this Chinese junk and they were practically giving them away after massive incentives
Distributors and Dealerships in western markets really do need to be gagged.
It's a good looking hatch.
Viking I just came from my local Chevy dealer, looking at their new Bolt. And you keep quoting US prices like the base model Bolt as $29,000. Yes that’s what the MSRP price is, but my dealer added an extra $5000 to that price. And when I asked why, all she said was demand, they can’t make them fast enough! I told her no, I’ll wait for their $199/lease option if and when that comes around again. And Viking, I love your channel and all of the work you put into, but brother take a break(we’ll all miss you), spend this time with your wife and boys, you’ll never get this time back! Matt
I never understand why dealers would tell people that no one wants a affordable EV around €15.000 that has a range around 300km (if possible).
It simply is a lie. The masses want a EV like that.
They make huge markups on a Lightning or Hummer.
Pink is perfect for Sam 😂😂😂😂
I think it's great, I'd definitely buy one.
Thank you for sharing Sam. If you like it ( it is a good looking car and price) I can parallel import it for you and all Australians.😂
I like the style more than the Dolphin but it's a bit too small for my needs. BYD are making smart moves with offering EVs that hit the price point for what a lot more people can afford. I'm very excited to see how the Seal is received down here.
有各种款式的，价格也不一样，人民币￥10－100万都有
My daughter saw a review video of this, and she loves it and was very disappointed it's not scheduled for an Australian release.
I've been waiting for the BYD seagull to come to Australia, this would be perfect to replace my 2006 model Getz, I would sign up for one straight away.
300 Km range is more than enough for what I need it for, daily work commuter and Grocery shopping.
If EVdirect doesn't bring them here then I guess I'll be waiting until MG brings a small EV to Australia.
This is a perfect car as a second car for school drop offs and going to work shopping ect
Looks ace. We need more affordable small EVs like this. If BYD can’t get it over to the Uk, maybe MG can do a similar size - infact the segull looks a lot like a squashed MG4 to me, and I like that.
i drive a Kei car and they are the GOAT. more small cars in AUS!
This is the EV for people like me, someone living on a small pension and driving < 5000km a year mainly for getting groceries
Glad to see froggy back!
very cute city car , I like it
I'd buy it at $8800 just for the 30kwh battery and use it mostly as home energy storage. You can just barely get that much battery storage in the States for that price.
做梦呢，在中国的售价最低都超过10000美元
This car will sell like crazy in Europe
Looks way cool! Perfect town car for Aussies! EV Direct has no idea what we want. I could sell my Tesla and buy a different coloured Seagull for each day of the week 😂
This is the kind of car that large carmakers should focus on, instead of going to truck-size cars
BYD distribution would do well to sell the BYD seagull would sell well in Australia because people on low income like pensioners would buy one.
I would buy one to save me fuel costs and because everything else is too expensive 😢
Have you tried anything in the personal mobility range like walking or cycling?
@@theairstig9164 People say that, but it's not really practical unless you live in a city. Get into the suburbs or urban areas and everything is too far away. You also have to deal with weather in the real world not even mentioning hauling groceries home. Warmer areas can get by without cars, but outside the tropics you'd need a city.
@@AKJammer1 I understand what you are saying. I feed a family of four and routinely get myself around on 25+ kilometre return trips. In Suburbia. Day and Night. Winter and summer. All on a $900 scooter with solid tyres. I’m not fit or special and I own two cars. I also have school age children. I looked at my excuses and overcame them. You do you
@@theairstig9164 You're a hardier man than me. I'm retired now living by the beach in Florida, but I still need a car to carry my foil board, 2 Kites, pump, harness and kite bar back and forth to the beach 3 miles away. First world problems... :-)
I'm happy for BYD use to own the stock but sold because of the China risk.
I would buy this in Australia
$10k and if I remember right the specs include A/C and the new sodium battery (hopefully fire immune)... yes, I would buy one instantly, even being Chinese. In the US there is nothing comparable at that price range.
Sold. Luv it.
The great looks is that there's no fake grill cover like on the legacy autos EV's.
I think the fake grill is to give people a more familiar look. EV,s don't need a grill because there is no radiator which needs airflow to cool the water in the radiator.
Yeah, and when are EV manufacturers like Tesla and BYD going to learn that they don't need to make their headlights and DRLs in unique shapes. There is absolutely no reason for these unique shapes to exist on EVs like they do on legacy cars. All EVs should have headlights that are exactly the same, six inch, perfectly round.
Of course, I'm being a little sarcastic there. Frankly, there is no technical reason why a typical ICE car needs a grill these days, but as cars' shapes are increasingly determined by aerodynamics and safety regs, the legacy grill has become one of the few areas where a designer can create a visual identity for the car.
Sometimes they go overboard (*cough* BMW *cough*), but even Tesla puts a subtle grill on their cars (look at the MY nose and the line that curves up from the corners, in between the lights to create a shadow "grill"). So as long as designers are using the space in interesting, creative ways, then let them have it. Who cares if it is unnecessary, as I pointed out earlier, having a headlight with a unique shape is also completely unnecessary.
I like the pink too Sam!
Heck yeah!
Still waiting in Denmark for a small ev. 👍
Was keen for this model to come to Australia. Thought it would be a great car for my daughter. Now I guess she will be getting the ICE option.
The BYD Dolphin takes 10 seconds for 0-60MPH. Just a 5 year battery warranty. Mazda sales are good here. Mazda has a far higher reliability rating by consumer reports than Tesla. Tesla was rated 19th and Toyota number 1. Mazda in the top 5
The price in China is rumored to be 80k Yuan, or 12K USD. This would be a big hit in the US if they can keep the price under 20K USD.
Great report. Best wishes for your wife's future health.
This Pink car will be popular with Mary Kay Cosmetic personnel in the USA.
I agree with you that the first manufacturer that focuses on the low price end of the market will rapidly capture a large share of the EV market. The bulk of buyers (especially in the US) do not want an expensive EV. If they have to fork out $30K+, buyers will keep waiting for the next best think. Low cost buyers, students and 2nd car buyers are waiting for an attractive and affordable EV. Manufacturers need to get over the GREED motivation and start serving the real world. How many cars will millionaires buy?...not enough to keep several manufacturers from bankruptcy!
If they bring it to Denmark and EU I'll be their first customer. And you're right about the colour.
What you probably will not hear on this channel is that BYD had a bigger increase in sales of plugin hybrids in China than in EVs in 2022. I wish we could get both types of BYD vehicles in the US.
This his exactly what I nead
BYD would be stupid not to bring this car to Australia. This is the ideal city car and direct competitor for the Toyota Yaris and Kia Picanto.
Incidentally, my gas powered ones used to lose power too! Although it was kind enough to pull over while on to highway and go to my nearest BMW dealer.
300 kilometres? That's absolutely more than I'll need almost every day.
This would sell like crazy in 🇨🇦
Need more range in Canada especially when cold reduce battery life.
@@derpwagon7317 有混动版
Absolutely 💯
Byd need serious help with their naming for western markets.
I live in the UK and would love to have this car. It’ll hit a sweet spot in terms of price, size, range and style. I can’t wait to buy one - so please import it here and price it at 15-16,000 GBP !! But do put LED headlights on it !
Love it! What I want to know is would a 44kwh / 50kwh or 60kwh battery pack fit under it! Buy a pack from a wrecker and away you go :) Look forward to someone retrofitting these things and getting 400km+ of range! I would buy one as it is if the price was right - wonder what ANCAP rating it gets.
The ANCAP rating is a moot point if there is no RHD model to test. Putting a larger battery under it would make the 55Kw peak output seem even slower and it wouldn’t be $15K USD anymore. Have a think about the diminishing returns of putting in a bigger battery. Longer stopping distance, less efficient, more load on the brakes (debatable) suspension and tyres. Bigger regen spikes. My guess is BYD designed the battery to be air cooled then designed the rest of the car around it. The motor WILL throttle to 25Kw on long steep hills. Good luck dicing with the semi trailers
Looks great for it's size class. The pink reminds me of the Apple MacBook & watch "gold" that's more like a pinkish-gold than anything
The color looks like amathest to me. That light it would be some sort of pastel amathest. Awesome color.
I'll buy one for sure
Per Reuters at Shanghai auto show, $11,500 USD equivalent, ranges of 190 (305km) or 252 (405km) miles. With export cost rolled in, AND country-specific minimum reg-satisfying updates, still going to sell out wherever BYD tries. There are a lot of worn-out gas cars used for work commute in EVERY country that the Seagull will easily replace.
If BYD brought the Seagull to Oz I'd cancel my Atto order on a flash!
At the $15000 it would be the most affordable ev in South Africa! I would definitely buy one.
I've been wanting to see a smaller EV. Thanks Sam, you're doing a good thing mate.
You own one. Would you call byd a good car?
Like it but I would like more range
The lighter the car the more efficient it is. Great for going marketing around the surburb
Affordable, practical & promising. How to get 1 ASAP?
I still prefer the Dolphin but it does seem pretty compelling. As for the color, at least I didn't puke.
The VW e-Up starts at €26k while its ICE version starts at €14k. If BYD could compete with the ICE version of the Up, it would be an instant hit!
Completely disingenuous comparison. Spec the ice car out to have all the equipment the ev has standard then ad in the ev incentives.
Account for total cost of ownership correctly and it's the ev which is cheaper to own and drive. Plus retains a higher resale value. 👍🏻
I would love a $10,000 EV. This is perfect!
There’s a huge market for an urban commute car. Especially for families with more than 1 car and people who need transportation but can’t afford more. At $10,000, this would easily grab 25% of the whole auto market (perhaps 50%), especially while people are getting squeezed financially.
Even without the $7500 government incentive, this is a winner. Consider the amortized total cost of ownership include monthly payments, maintenance, repair, and overnight home recharge keeping it topped off. Not only is upfront cost lower than ICE, it will last at least a decade or 2.
If the price is around 20-25k in Australia, It will sell like hotcakes. I thought Tesla would have something for sale in this size range, long before now, but maybe they won't even bother, just let China fill the small hatch market. I would buy one tomorrow, and leave my model 3 at home. Love the show Sam.
That pink color, in the USA, is casually known as ‘Mary-Kay” pink. Aging myself, but a Cadillac in that pink color in the ‘70’s to today was/is a perk for the BEST / most productive seller/marketers of Mary Kay cosmetics. A badge of success in some circles, but only seen with a Mary Kay sticker on a Caddy. No manufacturers have had the nerve to use the color on their open retail sold cars.
Young Australian people will like it.
At $10K in the US I would totally buy this car. Also I'm with you on pink, usually not a fan but this one is sorta cool.
There's no way the price would be $10K in the US - thanks to import fees and government regulations. It would have to be certified by the EPA, etc., you know they'd tack on fees. Shipping from China to the US isn't free, that's certain.
In Colorado we get $2000 tax credit from the state so with federal tax incentives is $9500
$10,000 minus $9,500 is $500 for a new car that will last decades😊
Dream on, Biden will ever let Commie cars in.
Hey Sam, no mention of the sodium ion battery?
Gonna be hard to sell in my country, we have a bigger Perodua MyVi with level 2 autonomous driving at only less than 13k USD and petrol prices here are 48cents USD per litre.
Yes I would have bought it yesterday 😮
It's comparable in size to my 2017 Ignis. The Ignis is a great small car. I can fit so much in it and amazing petrol economy, as good as a hybrid. So, the BYD would be very popular here, IMO. A great city car, great for retirees, great as a second car or for uni students etc. No doubt this or other similar EV will be released into our market, eventually.
I would buy it just because it’s pink!
Come on EV direct! Bring it to Australia!!
A good job that Dacia uprated the range and charging speed of the Spring which is now near identical otherwise it would be no competition.