I was actually on Cassie's side regarding her outrage over Lexi's play. ANYONE would be furious if their dirty laundry was suddenly aired out in public, especially if it was something intimate like the carousel scene. Fortunately, Lexi didn't mention the abortion at all.
I understand that especially because her sister knows first hand that men do that to her. I would say if they wanted the play to be just the truth, everyone would have hated NATE
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i dont like cassie but i dont like what lexi did either, everyone praises her when she literally just writes EVERYONE's story without their permission and expects no one to get mad? if it was a made-up story, fine, but this wasn't her story to tell
I was on the fence about Lexi’s play, then she included the carousel scene. That was such an embarrassing moment for Cassie in season one - one of her lowest moments before things really went bad for her - and was completely unnecessary to include in a play that was for Lexi to work through her pain/trauma. Bringing it up again just felt like Lexi being petty/wanting to embarrass her sister. I understood Cassie being upset her life and trauma was being put out there for entertainment without Lexi telling her. I *completely* understood her reaction to the carousel scene being included.
I completely agree. While I dislike Cassie’s character in s2 she did not deserve that. Lexi was just cruel and petty to include that. It added nothing to the play other than embarrassing her sister.
It was a public event, that part was NEVER private, a whole bunch of people saw it and i wouldnt be surprised everyone else knew about it cause their town was a small town, i do agree that it wasn’t necessary to add that into the play but lets not act like this was a PRIVATE moment that she told lexi in confidence and lexi exposed her. Cassie exposed herself when she did that.
See, I really liked the, "Why is Rue's life any harder than mine?" moment. While it *does* overlook Cassie's privilege (or at least tries to show that Cassie overlooks her privilege), it definitely highlights those moments when people try to tell you your problems don't matter because, 'people are starving in 3rd world countries,' which can be devastating if you're seriously hurting.
ehhh it was more like a privileged pretty white girl thinking that her dad being a drug addict is the exact same as a black girl losing her father to cancer, being pretty mentally ill, and addicted to drugs...cassie is comparing herself to someone who started out in a worse situation and CPTSD is gonna be harder to get through than the loss of a parent, it's not even comparable
@@brynniefresh9746 She is definitely privileged being a white woman yes but in reality they are BOTH very mentally unwell teens who have no father figure in their life whether it be abandonment or cancer BOTH face many many hardships like rues drug addiction and Cassie being overly sexualized since she was a child meaning she now has no real sense of self but being sexual and her family not giving a single shit about her or rues complicated relationships especially with Jules or Cassie and every relationship friend or romantic/sexual failing at some point meaning she has absolutely no one to talk to ever. and her abortion in season one there shouldn't really be a competition on who suffers more at the end of the day they are both sad, broken by the world little girls who deserve so much more than the horrors in life they were given.
@@brynniefresh9746 also I don't know if the pretty in the "pretty white girl"part is privilege at least to her since it caused muchhh more harm than good
@@brynniefresh9746 rue def has it harder, but so do other ppl. Like the ones in third world countries. Why should rue get to complain about her problems when ppl literally don't have beds or food to eat or even a good relationship with their dad before they died. See how that sounds
I find it interesting how you guys compare the two, but make it about who has it worse and focus on differences than similarities. I immediately picked up on the part where they draw parallels between Rue and Cassie, because both are addicts but in different ways and they relate to one another, and Rue immediatelx calls Cassie out on her hypocrisy when she exposes that Cassie has been sleeping with Nate. You can totally disagree with my statement that both of them are addicts as a method to cope with trauma. But at least get awareness of this approach where we compare who has it worse over compare what people have in common, especially 2 women.
as someone who had a friend like cassie, they portrayed it very realistically. some people’s character crumbles due to their trauma… and they’re just not the same person anymore.
i know lexi is a fan favorite but not enough people talk about how shady it was for her to put on a play about all of her friends/families lives and include some of their most embarrassing moments in the play. it also looks like most of them didn't even know the play would be about them or that certain private moments would be included. kinda makes me side eye just how innocent and wholesome lexi really is.
@@thayibaahmed824 it was shitty and poorly written! clearly doesnt reflect her character at all- just Sam writing it for drama. cause if i remember correctly, lexi wasnt even there at the carnival, or most events, how was she to know? Sam only used her play to stir the plot
and she made it so obvious who it was about, if she changed the names fully and didn't chose actors that look so similar then it wouldn't be a big deal
I didn’t really like McKay when it came to Cassie. I always thought he valued how he and their relationship was perceived by others rather than just loving Cassie and treating her well
the thing about lexi’s play that really grinds my gears is the way they tried to make lexi seem like she was doing what’s right. like if they at least had some balls and had lexi make it fully aware the play was her revenge act, i could’ve liked lexi. instead they tried to make lexi seem innocent and like she was just working through her trauma when she literally put the carousel scene for no reason other than to embarrass cassie.
Cassie’s mom is very neglectful and I never got why people liked her…? I guess cause she had some funny one liners but she was never that emotionally there for her daughters and didn’t really distill self respect into Cassie. She often encouraged her dates and hook ups with guys And just never got her daughters the council they needed. She often drank and not much more, it was clear she needed help too and maybe it could’ve been a step that they all could’ve did together but saying your daughter “needs a fucking exorcism” while knowing she is very suicidal is not helping. It was important to note that she definitely knew Cassie had a habit of hurting herself otherwise she wouldn’t have tried to hide those knives from her and all the reactors laughing at Cassie while trying to do this just cause she’s irritating wasn’t cute either. Cassie isn’t some terrible person despite her many flaws so laughing at her suffering as an audience was never cool to me.
this!!!! yeah definitely people only like her for being "comedic relief" but character wise she sucks and a raging alcoholic, those daughters need help. euphoria is just a terrible show, i dont think sam even knows how to write at this point.
“If she can get Nate to love her it’s like proving herself” I loved this. This is it exactly. I always tried to figure out why she’d want someone who hated her and this makes perfect sense. Thanks for putting that in words fo me
At first, I was really annoyed by Cassie in season 2. I thought she was behaving so immaturely, bordering on childish. But then I realized... she is a child. And I actually appreciated a show showing a teenager BE a teenager. Your hormones are going insane in high school, you don't think rationally, you think everything in your life is how it will always be. If you have a relationship that ends, you think "I'll never love anyone again" -- and that is how Cassie behaved. She was so desperate to be what Nate wanted her to be, she gave up everything about herself from season one. That isn't unheard of. I don't think she changed, fundamentally, but she made an unconscious choice to be different to try to get what she thought she wanted. She didn't think about who she'd hurt, because teenagers don't when they're so caught up in things like this. She actually reminds me a lot of her namesake in Skins. That Cassie is the same sort of naive-seeming sweet character who is just good at being there for others, but she has this whole other thing going on inside, and she finally breaks. I also like the concept that not everyone has to be likeable all the time. You were saying you really liked Cassie before and you didn't in season two.. that's good. That's realistic. Nobody is likeable all the time. She's in a phase. She has tantrums because she's a teenage girl who hasn't processed or even understood her trauma. I think these decisions for her were deliberate and well-executed, and I look forward to seeing how she is in season 3.
Saying that euphoria showed authentically teenagers is kinda cringe. None of their actions reflect real teenagers. At least not all of them. Not all teenagers drink, get high, have sex with random people, wear these crazy outfits like…no, euphoria isn’t about teenagers, it’s about how old people think about teenagers
It is very believable for a teenage girl with an absentee father to behave this way. Her issues with her father completely set her up for failure as the lack of a strong male role model does for most people.
Omg!! You're the first person who mentioned the terrible behaviour of Cassie's family during her mental breakdown. I watched like 10 videos about season 2 and NO ONE talked about it !!
What makes me mad is that they could've given her an amazing character development in season 2 (for example going to therapy and working on herself) but instead of that they just made her into an annoying character for no reason (seriously what was the point of her relationship with Nate in the last season?) The whole “love triangle” (if you can even call it that) was just overly dramatic and cringy.
The streets say that the reason it seemed to have come out of nowhere is because the arc was initially written to have Jules dealing with her feelings with Nate while also doing things with Nate and their relationship would have both Maddy and Rue involved and absorbed by it especially with Maddy having the tape. However, due to a number of rumored reasons, none of which are actually confirmed, the arc didn’t come out with Jules and Cassie was written in as the stand-in for it which is why Cassie does a complete 180 and Jules does as well because even Jules cheating with Elliot makes far more sense and works far better if it’s with Nate since she realized in therapy she still did have feelings with him despite how horrific she is.
there was a way to do it well and that is not what happened lmao...the original plot of the season was nate and jules secretly together and what makes more sense, maddy is still jules friend and that would be a betrayal and jules sneaking around behind rue's back would also create tension...but the actors hate each other so they had to rewrite for them
Honestly, I just felt so bad for Cassie all through out Season2. And then when she was having a whole mental breakdown and her family couldn't care less was just awful. Like if that had been my sister theres no way I'd let her spiral like that and feel completely alone.
Same, it's like the idea of her having relationship trauma regarding love or friendships didn't even cross her family's mind ????? She was literally collapsing after her affair with Nate came out. It's kinda weird how Lexi and her mother just judged her (emphasis on JUST, bc what she did was wrong for many reasons and they should help her to get that) and would not try to understand her side of the story, what was going on with her, why did she make those choices given the larger context, etc. I don't remember if they knew about the abortion or not, but if they did ?????? Wtf honestly Cassie needed more support in that moment. Maybe she got extra attached to Nate because their relationship, as flawed as it was, was the only thing she could lean on emotionally after everything that happened to her. It makes it a bit more understandable if you look at it that way.
Exactly. Especially the mom. It was made out to be some kind of joke about how annoying Cassie was in that scene where she was crying to her mom and Lexie. But, it’s a parents job to support your children and love them and guide them, ESPECIALLY when they make mistakes. Cassie is a literal child still who’s been through so much trauma and the reality is that there’s a lot of traumatized teenagers who have acted the same way. Her mom is honestly shit for not being compassionate to her daughter, this doesn’t mean not holding her accountable, however
the fact that everyone could see how she was falling apart and how she literally told lexi she wanted to die but everyone just sees her as such a villain and don't help her is so upsetting.
@@vdks07 yeah, it's not like she killed someone. She dated/hooked up with a dude who was 'socially off limits' 🙄 I feel bad for her, because she willingly went after a guy who was a known abuser without any regard for herself. Like damn, SOMEONE GO HELP HER😩
Cassie is such a complex character who happens to my favourite but I find her extremely irritating in season two, especially with the Cassie-Nate-Maddy storyline and I truly think that Maddy should be like “I forgive you but I’m not gonna be your friend.” because that’s such a healthy trope that I haven’t personally seen much of in tv (think of how Peyton didn’t really deserve Brooke in One Tree Hill). but I’d love to see this. All while understanding Cassie’s need for love and validation as an affect of her childhood trauma.. and I relate to her. On another note, Lexi was out of line with her play typically with the carousel scene, for Lexi to exploit a moment of complete vulnerability of Cassie like that isn’t even justified by Lexi feeling in her shadow. I understand Lexi’s frustration with living in her sisters shadow but this could have been fixed through communication if Cassie was to be like “actually my life isn’t perfect and I have problems too.”. Cassie being popular, physically attractive and being in many relationships isn’t something that will make her happy and also comes with its problems but it’s overlooked by her own sisters jealousy.
Exactly. Those things you listed at the end are actually the root of most of her problems, on top of her abandonment issues and her need for male validation/love being at the core of her childhood trauma, which makes her not exactly the most mature, wise and put-together person to deal with those issues in a healthy way.
We never see her friends be there for her in season 1 in particular Maddy who's supposed to be her best friend.... She had a abortion and her family seems to have forgotten about it Everyone let her down bc she's pretty and they think she don't need everything BC she's pretty that's sad
As someone in my late 20s, Cassie reminds me of my younger self (due to a present but horrible dad). This show is very realistic, people have multiple sides and trauma makes you act out in ways you don’t even expect. I hope they show her healing whenever Euphoria ends
I felt like I’m one of the of the only people who thought lexi’s play was disgusting. Thought you shouldn’t take your siblings most humiliating moment and make a play about it.
I feel like everybody misses the scene where Maddie talks with her mentor in the pool. Her mentor talks about how she used to be messy and nobody thought of her as wife material, and she even slept with her best friend’s ex. And she explains to Maddie that she would’ve liked every guy that gave her attention. This moment isn’t about Maddie it’s talking about Cassie! Also it’s on purpose that they show Cassie naked a lot. It’s so you, the viewer, are starting to see Cassie as the other characters view her. You are meant to judge her, so they can make a point. And hopefully they will come back on this in season 3, to complete her arc. For better or worse.
Thank you for this video. Agree with so many points made. Especially for pointing out how terrible her mom and sister were to her. Even beyond as you said ignoring or mocking her mental breakdown, it is HEINOUS that her sister and especially her mother only react to Cassie dating an ABUSER is “wow why to break girl code.” No concern at all.
@@SerenaSkybourne Exactly! But Cassie in Season Two is written with ZERO empathy, so her family not caring if she’s in abusive relationship is “funny.”
cassie’s mental health was neglected by everyone around her in the first season and now that those consequences are being shown, people are saying she has a victim mentality when she literally is a victim.
@@itsomarsopinion she is at fault for sleeping with her best friend’s boyfriend. She has just as much responsibility as he does for fucking up that relationship.
@@itsomarsopinion the fact that you were stating any different either shows that you were brainwashed domestic violence victim, or you’re 9 years old 😂😂😂
9:00 On this note: I had a friend in highschool who had triple D’s, and all the staff kept making really gross comments. When she brought it up to the school they literally Ignored her and told her to get better shirts. like bro she LITERALLY COULDNT IT WAS JUST HER SHIRTS
I also feel like people completely forget Cassie was wasted when Nate picked her up from the convenience store and hooked up. Yes she continued to per-sue the relationship while sober but I feel like she was feeling like a shit person then got drunk and did something that “confirmed she was shit” and went along with it because she feels like she deserves to be hated. Ultimately I don’t think she would’ve made that initial decision had she been sober.
A big gripe i have with cassie's nude/sexual scenes in euphoria is that they could have actually used the excessive amount of it in a really interesting way that would up her storyline even more. Like, we see Rue doing a lot of drugs, we see a quite raw portrayal of what drug addiction does to a family and everything like that, and we as an audience are almost like tested to still have compassion, and still have empathy for her despite really bad things she does. Cassie's excessive nudity could have been used like that, a way to test the audience to have compassion for her, and still be able to view her as a human deserving of respect and decency and autonomy despite being shown in a sexual light quite a lot. That, in my opinion, would have made for a brilliant use of the nudity, given a smart edge to the shock value of it and would have made the show a bit more meta in a sense. But uhh they didnt, and it shows.
Your point that the scene where she fights the actress on the carousel horse is representing her fighting herself??? Holy cow how did i never notice that symbolism before
I've never thought about it ????? I get where she's coming from, but maybe that's reading too much into it? Like adding an extra layer of deeper, more complex/sophisticated meaning onto something most likely surface-level from the writers' part? 😅 Hahaha but it's a good observation tho.
@@nocte.animam I think that when Sam was writing the script he definitely included symbolism in it for the audience to read deeper into if they wanted more than just the surface level story. Zendaya is on record as having said so!
Yeah cassie's childhood does explain why she's the way she is especially with boys to me her need to be love she allows boys to basically use her and disrespect her
You’re right about them not giving us enough insight into her head space. Every single one of her conflicts/scenes is about Nate. The end of her arc at Season 1 is her trying to learn to be alone, then suddenly in Season 2 she’s fucking Nate just because he gave her a little attention. The only non-Nate conflict she had before the final arc was an off screen argument with her sister. Was that argument really enough for her to run into the arms of Nate? If she’d had an onscreen conflict with Maddie early on or had struggled with literally anything else that we could see it would have made more sense for her to be so vulnerable in that situation.
I think the problem lies in how the show decides to frame her as a whole. In the first season, we saw her made questionable choices, while still being framed as a sympathetic character, albeit a bit pathetic and meek. Season 2, on other hand, treats her in a way that feels very mean spirited.
Season 2 felt like a completely different show to me. The only thing that carried over was Rue’s addiction arc and general character traits and they brought her down a path that was just kinda outlandish and for the shock factor. Maddy’s character stayed fairly consistent aside from her as a babysitter not feeling believable but then again Maddy was never a full fleshed character just another manifestation of the spicy Latina trope. Overall I felt all the characters were dumbed down which is kinda insane because as you see more of a character you should be getting more depth but it was the opposite. I feel that Cassie’s internal motivations stayed pretty consistent between seasons but her external motivations, actions, responses and emotional expression felt far too drastically different especially when there wasn’t anything I can pinpoint as a catalyst for such an extreme change. When I watched the first season I thought it was pretty good but hoped that season 2 would be more character driven and less about shock value but we got the opposite. I think it’s very unlikely that season 3 will be able to redeem the show because it would need to connect the plot lines of late season 2 to the things that captivated the audience in season 1 and within this production bubble of Sam Levinson trying to do it all himself it seems near impossible to accomplish that
I’m a screenwriter as well so if the way I worded this doesn’t make sense please tell me lol would love to hear your response to my thoughts but don’t know if they came across coherently to people who don’t write
it would be great to make a big Cassie reveal in season 3, like explaining all the shit happened to her during season 2. all of her motivation and stuff but deep down I know it's never gonna happen (because obviously the writers take themselves very serious and think they already filming scenes with Cassie from her perspective bruh)
I think the reason why Nate isn’t getting as much hate is because we all expected him to be terrible, he’s been since season 1. But for Cassie, it was just a huge disappointment because she was a favorite but given such a terrible storyline this season that made her as unlikeable as Nate. I hope they give her the storyline she deserves in season 3 but I have little hope with Sam levinson.
Watching season 2 as an adult (mid/late) 20s, i just felt sad and disappointed for Cassie but completely understood the character arc. This teen has no one around her to actually slow her down and she needs help, but the only way for her (in Cassie's mind) to get it is to escalate. Writing a good character doesn't always equal writing a proactive and healthy character, which is what most people wanted for her. We all want the health Cassie but a sudden health and wellness arc with her going to therapy doesn't really make sense if everyone around her isn't in that headspace. I hope in season 3 that she starts to get that arc, but Cassie's breakdown did make sense as a character and did show a realistic portrayal of the people around her (except Lexi writing a play, what wasn't but could be equated to cyber bullying)
I think that Cassie is one of the most complex and interesting characters in Euphoria. She can be deeply analysed from a psychological perspective. I loved her in season 1 but by season 2 I started to despise her. Loads of people give reasons why she acts a certain way but there is the other spectrum where people outright defend what she did. They would make excuses for sleeping with her best friend's abusive ex and will always bring up Maddy's errors to make Cassie seem like a better person. ABSOLUTELY NO! Even though i despised Cassie in season 2, she had every right to whoop Lexi's ass after she included the carousel scene. In that scene, Cassie was high and she embarrassed herself but she wasn't really harming anyone. Lexi was just being petty.
I still felt for Cassie throughout season 2. I felt horribly sorry for her... Especially in regards to her family's lack of support of her clearly deteriorating mental state. Now, why hook up with Nate out of all people? I think he gave her the right amount of attention at the right time. She was already upset about McKay and Nate was just... there.
I somehow felt that the last episode tried to convince us about that the scene when Maddie hit Cassie was an epic scene when Cassie finally “got what she deserved”. Actually I was shocked that this scene went viral with this narrative plus with the #teamMaddie. Making a scene because of Lexi and the carousel thing was totally valid in my opinion and the fact that Maddie hit her like a trashy cartoon character was just pathetic. I hate when a character who was disliked got a kind of “punishment” in a way when the other party behaved even more terribly in that situation and people are still cheering on it. 😒
I hated that was everyone was rooting for Maddy to beat up Cassie. I felt traumatized. Edit: if u feel, what Maddie did is right. Then you should also be ok with going through what Cassie went through. It's like you thinking punching someone is fine, but you should also be ready to be punched back or ok with taking a hit . I am not. Sorry. I am sorry, but I lost respect for Maddie after that. I didn't gain respect for Cassie either, but I have sympathy for her.
@@nataliaperez6203 I thought she just pulled her off the horse and got on top of her to pulled her hair. I actually didn't see hitting. Yes bad but Cassie's intention was "I need to get this actress to stop because it's humiliating". I think Cassie would have backed down if the actress left by herself. But Maddie intention was to beat Cassie up. She ran on stage, chased her, to slap her and when Cassie again tried to run away again, Maddie chased her and slammed her head against a wall. One girl got physical because of desperation to stop something, and the other got physical because she got angry. You could say Maddie was trying to get Cassie off of the actress, but Cassie ran way. So job done, right ? But Maddie continued to chase after her. Did you notice Cassie never hit Maddie back even once? She should have at least tried to defend herself. If there was one simple scene where Maddie slapped Cassie and both screamed at each other .I wouldn't have lost respect for Maddie .
@@dreamscomingtrue2446 "I thought she just pulled her off the horse and got on top of her to pulled her hair. I actually didn't see hitting. Yes bad but Cassie's intention was "I need to get this actress to stop because it's humiliating". I think Cassie would have backed down if the actress left by herself." - So you're telling me that pulling someone's hair isn't the same as hitting her? i swear pulling someone's hair is sometimes much more painful than hitting to be honest. You're acting as if Cassie did nothing to the actress, yet she was screaming and she seemed to be in pain. Also Cassie was being a c*nt to absoluetly everyone in that scene. "But Maddie intention was to beat Cassie up. She ran on stage, chased her, to slap her and when Cassie again tried to run away again, Maddie chased her and slammed her head against a wall. One girl got physical because of desperation to stop something, and the other got physical because she got angry." - As she should??? Cassie straight up lied to Maddy, refused to fix their friendship when Maddy wanted to talk things out, started wearing the necklace Nate gave her, bragged about stealing "jake from martha" on stage and called her a c*nt. You're minimising Maddy's hurt and make it seem like she was having a temper tantrum. "You could say Maddie was trying to get Cassie off of the actress, but Cassie ran way. So job done, right ? But Maddie continued to chase after her.Did you notice Cassie never hit Maddie back even once? She should have at least tried to defend herself." - You're forgetting one little detail: Maddy was genuinely trying to be the bigger person until that happened. When Cassie chickened out and refused to open the door, Maddy tried to see it from her boss' POV, had to watch Nate and Cassie everywhere together and still held her tongue, watched as Lexi portrayed their friendship and overall held her tongue during the whole ordeal. The only moment she snapped was when Cassie brought up her relationship with Nate on stage. That's when Maddy snapped. When she saw that Cassie was being violent and had no remorse in what she did to Maddy that's when she hit her. Other than that, Maddy was really trying to be the bigger person. Also, Cassie is a coward and can’t fight. That's why she run like a chicken when Maddy chased her.
One key moment that was forgotten about yet could be so extramental to cassies mental state is her abortion. Just a thought but maybe the trauma from going through with a prodecure she never wanted, plays a huge role in why shes acting so differently now throughout s2? It doesn't excuse her actions, rather helps provide some insight as to why her behaviour is so self destructive? ❤️ What do you think? Love your video analysis serena!! 💛
@@SerenaSkybourne ikr!! Such a huge moment in cassies life just dropped like it meant nothing to her character? Ugh It’s one of my biggest pet peeves when shows do this! It happened a lot in pretty little liars & now its most obvious in euphoria with cassies abortion and rue owing money/ nearly been sold into trafficking. I hate when something is build up, then dropped with no explanation 😞
Your videos on Maddy & Cassie are some of the best videos I've seen in a long list of videos criticizing this season of Euphoria. If you plan on doing videos on other characters from the show (Jules & Kat) I look forward to them.
this is very well done! i honestly agree with everything you mentioned and the way that cassie has gone down since s1 and you are absolutely right! great to listen to and reflect on and in a way learn from her, to not make her mistakes! thank you again 🤍
we either needed to see what happened before she met nate at the gas station (i kept waiting for the scene of lexi and cassie's fight) or him standing up for her in some way, in a genuine way, something that showed he actually cared...then it would make sense, coz all we saw was two people have sex for no reason and then one of them fell in love instantly and the other doesn't give a shit but for some reason still plays along LMAO
Cassie was one of my favorite characters in S1, she was quite relatable for a teenage girl with family problems but they completely ruined her character for me in S2 I couldnt defend her at all
I personally think that Cassie has a love addiction + many other issues, people have mentioned she shows signs of bpd. Also romantic and pletonic love is really different. This does not excuse her behavior but it could explain alot of her actions. I find that people see everything as just black and white specially when it comes to Maddy and Cassie. I dont think Cassie ment to hurt Maddy intentionally. I think Cassie is so obsessed with the idea of being in love and being loved. Shes in her own world where reality of the situation dosent exsists or its just not hitting her. The attention / love she gets is kinda like a drug for her. I also think Cassie got humiliated alot while everyone else doing just as horrible things got out with no consequences. I thought the show would end with her character comitting. ngl. I didnt relate to Maddy alot cus her and i have oppisite personalities but Maddy is such a strong character. It really shows how people deal with trauma differently.
That play had no right to be the way it was. Rue should really have been the ONLY ONE to actually like the play, and all the other characters should have felt bad about how they were portrayed and be mad with Lexi. Though I loved her mother's reaction to her character in the play, maybe it could have hurt even her. Her representation was accurate, and accurate public representations of parents are a sure way to make them mad about you lol (most times anyway)
Cassie could go to diffrent ways next season The one end could be she is still obsessed over Nate, they're on and off and then she gets pregnant And if Nate is confirmed to be closeted or bi curious, Cassie may be just like his mom and hold that pregnancy over him Or maybe Nate does something so bad to Cassie that Maddy and the other girls try to save her and help her start to lean how to love herself more But really I think Maddy is the only one that can save Cassie because I don't know if Cassie can save herself anymore
another great video of yours! i would love to see a video on nate next. he is a very interesting character and i would love to hear more of your thoughts on him besides his relationship to maddy or cassie.
To be honest, I'm not surprised that Cassie would do what she did, because... she would do anything to feel validated. Especially by a male gaze because her dad left and given all the other relationships they showed that she was in. She would say yes to things she didn't want to do in season one. It makes sense to me. I do understand the anger by the play, that she had. However... at the same time, like with showing other people's lives, it's to given them perspective on how they act, how they seem, from another person's eyes. Lexi did let her anger and resentment for her sister, get the better of her, but what Cassie said to her, wasn't nice either. So... I kind of get both sides.
you should do one of us is lying! it's another one of pll done right, probably did justice more than the spinoff did! they stayed true to the book. rewatching pll past s2 and realizing that the plots are so messy and all over the place, s3 is the most confusing.
I really related to Cassie in some aspects in season 1... so I really wanted to feel sympathetic for her in season 2, but the direction they took her chararcter didn't make it easy. It sucks identifying with her in 1 and then see what they turn her into in 2....
i think part of why cassie's family is making fun of her when she's like threatening to hurt herself, is that she seems to just be making a scene. like if cassie wanted to actually hurt herself, why would she use a corkscrew? idk if it was the topic being poorly handled or if it was supposed to be cassie just trying to get her family to feel bad for her in the situation by pretending she was gonna hurt herself. her distress seemed real to me, but her intention to hurt herself did not seem super genuine. to me it seems like when i'm not su!cidal but i'm like 'i wanna die', as opposed to when i actually wanna d!e...and as someone with bipolar i think i have somewhat of an insight into the character, but i think there was a more subtle way to pull off what they did with her....but to be honest, the original plot for season 2 was gonna be nate getting with jules but they had to not do that cause jacob and hunter hate each other and that would have made a LOT more sense
well sometimes u dont think streaight.. and i ones told a doctor that i had been through such thing and how i tried to off myself with a pillow and the doctor laughed at me saying i cant die from it but would likely just pass out. Dosent matter how stupid the object is tbh a corkscrew is still a sharp object anyway.
I’ll say it again the reason why this season is a Total shit show is because Sam never intended it to go pass 1 season that has to be the case because this is unacceptable
hey queenie! my understanding of why cassie started to pursue nate is actually a moment of self control cause she knows it will end badly through how he treated madi. even though it’s completely screwed up i think it’s cause with past men she had hope that they would treat her well and she’s been let down, so she thinks it’s self control to date someone she knows will treat her poorly rather then once again be disappointed by a new guy!
I think the lack of scenes to help us emphasize is an active choice. It's asking us to be able to emphasize with a character even if we can't see their POV. The play call out was to the audience. Like how dare the viewers judge when we don't even know what's going on in her head.
I’d also like to mention in the aftermath of Rue airing out Cassie’s dirty little secret of her affair with Nate in front of well everyone else and Cassie keeps arguing with her family about her reasons for sleeping with Nate and not seeing the main principles of sleeping with your friends partners let alone ex partners I’d kinda can’t help but empathize the mom and Lexi being frustrated with her for not listening to them about why you can’t sleep with your best friends ex boyfriend and just acting all stupid about it and like if she had looked at the understanding of why your friends ex are off the market and looked upon herself and realized ‘oh fuck I actually am the one that caused this maybe I am the problem here’ then she wouldn’t have had some clownry on her and also what really pissed me off was the way how she would talk to Lexi like that for no reason calling her a nobody taking all the attention away from her just because you’re the pretty one in the family and how she thinks that Lexi was going to take all these insults like no no
@@SerenaSkybourne okay. THAT makes sense. But you would think it wouldn't be met with anger, it would met with Maddy saying, "Cassie, you sweet, dumb bitch. He's not going to be different for you and we need to get you out of this."
@@ML-di8lt yeah im kind of confused by that too. I guess it was insinuated at the end when Maddy said: "this is only the beginning" because she knows things will get worse for Cassie
@@SerenaSkybourne I thought no one knew Nate's abusive? Maddy always lied to Cassie and everyone else about it in season 1 and the choking allegations were put on Tyler
Coming back a few months later to say that: to me, the way Cassie vs Kat/Jules/Maddy were treated by the writing this season is like. Imagine you’ve been craving pizza for months and you finally go out to a restaurant and order a pizza, and you’re real excited about it. But then, instead of giving you your pizza, the waiter just brings out a bowl of soup. And at first you’re like, alright, not my favorite but I don’t have nothing against soup, it’s still good food. But then the waiter drops his pants, and makes you watch as he takes a nasty shit in that soup, then spit a snot rocket in it. While occasionally throwing you bites of pizza rolls that aren’t cooked properly. Like, I didn’t get my pizza, and now I just feel really bad for the soup and wish I didn’t watch that happen.
I actually kind of always saw Cassie as a victim than most people say. Not saying what she did to Maddie was okay it wasn’t. However in both season 1 and 2 Cassie have lots of silent cries for help and her self centered friends didn’t notice. Plus Maddie and Cassie don’t seem like much of best friends to me. Maddie and Kat are more best friends. Plus Maddie had to have known how horribly Nate talked about Cassie in season one and yet still dated him.
I think they show the guilt that she had, by justifying why she did it and especially the present she gave maddy on her birthday in ep 4, too. So she probably did do that, look through old photos to create that scrapbook of their friendship.
What I really find funny, is that the writer of this show is shit at his job. Season 1 was only good because it was setting things up, introducing characters and explaining backstories. They even gave a special intro to each character. Cassie especially feels totally different and unlikeable in season two. She becomes insufferable, selfish and entitled, and even psychotic. Season two basically uses her to sexualize her or to create more convoluted drama the season was lacking otherwise. And yet some people try to bend and twist the interpretation saying that Cassie is actually a really deep and complex character whose sudden fundamental change in personality is justified by her trauma and something like that. The thing is, maaaybe this could've worked if the writers actually cared to use Cassie's POV or her thought process but no. We see her all season yet we never get to understand her or her motivations or reasons to do what she does. It just comes off as poor writing.
I mean that even if her daughter messed up really badly she should still try and give her advice, or tell her how to apologise. Rather than just yelling at her
Cassie was a shitty friend but I will still feel bad for her 😭 I have a soft spot for cassie maybe it's just cause she's played by sydney sweeney but I hope cassie has a redemption in season 3
Honestly.....Nate was garbage no one talks about blackmail Jules and hurting Maddy .....and she was his girlfriend....That was really shoking for me seeing her bruises on her neck and how all this situation was handled by adults. Even Nate's dad knew what his son did and he was trying to teach Nate how to cover up abusive behaviour.....THAT IS WRONG...VIOLENCE IS VIOLENCE...not some lame excuse
I disagree with the fact that season 2 Cassie is a character assassination. I've seen women like that, women who are not able to be single, and will do ANYTHING (except self respect) to be with any men. They would throw anyone under the bus for a man and always "fall in love" with them when actually they have no idea what love is and have a deep deep problem and a pathological need to get attention from men. Cassie has always been this girl, we knew it from season 1. She went for Nate just because he's a man nothing else yeah he's a bad person and they don't match but she don't care. She just NEED a man And honestly I hate those kind of people
Agreed, plus some women intentionally "unintentionally" sleep with men that hate their guts but stuck around bc the men get free therapist they can traumatize even more, and Nate was Cassie's biggest hater.
People also have to look at it from Nate's storyline as well, it doesn't make sense for him to even mess with Cassie at the New Year's party in the first place knowing that Maddie could destroy his life with the tape if she found out. He knew she had it before he pursued Cassie. It makes no sense on multiple levels.
To answer your question about Nate, I think fans don’t Give nate a hard time compared to Cassie is because a good chunk of the fan base already knows nates a piece of shit. Also, Fans don’t really care about Nate betraying McKay because The show didn’t care. McKay didn’t even find out about nate and Cassie , he would just disappear like he didn’t matter at all.
Sadly a lot of the nudity, the situations and constant reminders are meant to make the viewer's uncomfortable. We've gotten to a point where kids are so so available, no one talks to their children about safety, mental health and with teens there is how to be safe in relationships so if you do end up with an abusive boy/girlfriend you can have open conversations with your parents, and even then try teaching your teens about sexual health and how to better be relaxed and ready on their first time so girls have less pain, and a few less tears or abrasions because they can get relaxed enough to enjoy the fist time or what both need to do to be okay the first time. How many teen boys still think girls should be on birth control all the time? It's really hard how the world for teens is now.
First cassie had also an abortion, so most of her behaviour can be explained By this. Awful sadness and no idea what her life is supposed to be. Second GOD i hate cassie and lexi‘s mother. So Many fans love her over Rue‘s mom and i am like oh hell noooo! I mean she allows her underaged daughters and friends to Drink alcohol. She is like Regina George‘s mom „a cool mom“-trope. But at least Regina George‘s mom gave her daughter and friends alcohol free cocktails. She is such an awful mother, i could gossip for hours. One is Having an exstential Crisis not knowing what to do, the other one is growing to fast and really neglected. They need their mothers guide but what she does is drinking and whatching that Television show
at 24:14 when you said cassie has never been a bad sister - i think you missed their entire relationship on screen? cassie has always been self-absorbed like back in season 1 when she asks lexi if she's looking different and lexi asks if it was about daniel, cassie snaps at lexi saying it wasn't, prompting lexi to go off at her. there's also the beginning of season 2 when she meets nate outside a convenient store before they go to the party together. lexi is worried sick at the party asking if anyone has seen cassie because allegedly they had an arguement in the car earlier and cassie has stormed off. i thought that was childish of her to make her younger sister worried like that. and if lexi's play is 100% accurate there was a reenactment of when lexi first hit puberty or about to and was excited to grow breasts but cassie completely diminished her hope. in all saying this, lexi's play is still a low blow though, and i'm not defending her character in anyway, just that cassie is definitely not a good sister or friend.
To me that kind of sounds like an exaggeration kdjfkj Siblings fight a lot and coexisting in the same house or room can be hell. I'm speaking from personal experience. It's easier to be occasionally rude to your family if you're in a bad mood (not that it's a good thing, but still it doesn't necessarily make you a shitty relative imo, specially in such a broken home like theirs.) The whole party thing... well, she was riding with Nate of all people so no wonder. Sometimes ppl don't answer their phones immediately. And the last bit yeah, maybe it was kinda shitty hahaha
Lexi didn't even notice Cassie wasn't at the party until Maddy asked about her. And that was after Lexi left Cassie drunk in the middle of the road. Cassie's a mess, don't get me wrong, but Lexi's not getting a Sister of the Year award either.
@@meaghanburch9918 you have it reversed, lexi was asking maddy if she'd seen cassie and maddy didn't even know she wasn't there. and from the conversation between lexi and cassie, it was cassie who stormed off. agreed tho, lexi is not a good sister either
Cassie and Nate were not dating. They were screwing. I don't think he publicly acknowledge her until they went to the play together. That is not "dating". They first hook up in a parking lot, she's had a fight with (I think) Lexi, and didn't go to the party with everyone else. And I don't think we get told what that argument was? Anyway, they all need therapy A LOT. And I can't think of a sex scene in this show that is actually sexy, to me as an adult. I wonder if Sam realizes that, because it's a thing with all of his projects.
I can understand why cassie hooking up with nate, since the first season she can't say no, but what I cannot understand is why nate hooked uo with her. She is not that pure as he liked and he make fun of that all the time
Im sorry but i disagree about cassie was not a bad sister. Cassie was definitely a bad sister, like she rarely was ever there for lexi and she always made lexi feel so shitty about her body and looks. And she never asked lexi about herself but she wants lexi to compliment and talk about her. Cassie always wanted to be the center of attention in her family (mom, dad, lexi) , honestly she treated maddy, kat and her other friends more like sisters than her own sister
I was actually on Cassie's side regarding her outrage over Lexi's play. ANYONE would be furious if their dirty laundry was suddenly aired out in public, especially if it was something intimate like the carousel scene. Fortunately, Lexi didn't mention the abortion at all.
Yeah I really feel bad for cassie that was so cruel to me
I understand that especially because her sister knows first hand that men do that to her. I would say if they wanted the play to be just the truth, everyone would have hated NATE
I think Lexi had no right to make that play tbh. It's great that Rue found it helpful but what in the actual fuck who does that
Literally on almost every single channel I follow and watch, I always find your comments. And it's always something I very much agree with.
And to add on top of that, your pfp is Addams Family.
It's so bizzare to me that on this huge platform, I almost always stumble upon your comments, no matter the channel 😂
i dont like cassie but i dont like what lexi did either, everyone praises her when she literally just writes EVERYONE's story without their permission and expects no one to get mad? if it was a made-up story, fine, but this wasn't her story to tell
I was on the fence about Lexi’s play, then she included the carousel scene. That was such an embarrassing moment for Cassie in season one - one of her lowest moments before things really went bad for her - and was completely unnecessary to include in a play that was for Lexi to work through her pain/trauma. Bringing it up again just felt like Lexi being petty/wanting to embarrass her sister. I understood Cassie being upset her life and trauma was being put out there for entertainment without Lexi telling her. I *completely* understood her reaction to the carousel scene being included.
Yeah what lexie did was totally disrespectful and wrong
I agree
I completely agree. While I dislike Cassie’s character in s2 she did not deserve that. Lexi was just cruel and petty to include that. It added nothing to the play other than embarrassing her sister.
It was a public event, that part was NEVER private, a whole bunch of people saw it and i wouldnt be surprised everyone else knew about it cause their town was a small town, i do agree that it wasn’t necessary to add that into the play but lets not act like this was a PRIVATE moment that she told lexi in confidence and lexi exposed her. Cassie exposed herself when she did that.
Exactly like if that was my sister I'd kill her on that stage
See, I really liked the, "Why is Rue's life any harder than mine?" moment. While it *does* overlook Cassie's privilege (or at least tries to show that Cassie overlooks her privilege), it definitely highlights those moments when people try to tell you your problems don't matter because, 'people are starving in 3rd world countries,' which can be devastating if you're seriously hurting.
ehhh it was more like a privileged pretty white girl thinking that her dad being a drug addict is the exact same as a black girl losing her father to cancer, being pretty mentally ill, and addicted to drugs...cassie is comparing herself to someone who started out in a worse situation and CPTSD is gonna be harder to get through than the loss of a parent, it's not even comparable
@@brynniefresh9746 She is definitely privileged being a white woman yes but in reality they are BOTH very mentally unwell teens who have no father figure in their life whether it be abandonment or cancer BOTH face many many hardships like rues drug addiction and Cassie being overly sexualized since she was a child meaning she now has no real sense of self but being sexual and her family not giving a single shit about her or rues complicated relationships especially with Jules or Cassie and every relationship friend or romantic/sexual failing at some point meaning she has absolutely no one to talk to ever. and her abortion in season one there shouldn't really be a competition on who suffers more at the end of the day they are both sad, broken by the world little girls who deserve so much more than the horrors in life they were given.
@@brynniefresh9746 also I don't know if the pretty in the "pretty white girl"part is privilege at least to her since it caused muchhh more harm than good
@@brynniefresh9746 rue def has it harder, but so do other ppl. Like the ones in third world countries. Why should rue get to complain about her problems when ppl literally don't have beds or food to eat or even a good relationship with their dad before they died. See how that sounds
I find it interesting how you guys compare the two, but make it about who has it worse and focus on differences than similarities. I immediately picked up on the part where they draw parallels between Rue and Cassie, because both are addicts but in different ways and they relate to one another, and Rue immediatelx calls Cassie out on her hypocrisy when she exposes that Cassie has been sleeping with Nate.
You can totally disagree with my statement that both of them are addicts as a method to cope with trauma. But at least get awareness of this approach where we compare who has it worse over compare what people have in common, especially 2 women.
as someone who had a friend like cassie, they portrayed it very realistically. some people’s character crumbles due to their trauma… and they’re just not the same person anymore.
This is something that a lot of people won’t admit in this fandom everything that happened with Cassie in season 2 is on track with her character
i know lexi is a fan favorite but not enough people talk about how shady it was for her to put on a play about all of her friends/families lives and include some of their most embarrassing moments in the play. it also looks like most of them didn't even know the play would be about them or that certain private moments would be included. kinda makes me side eye just how innocent and wholesome lexi really is.
i feel like a lot people
talk abt lexie's play being shitty
@@thayibaahmed824 it was shitty and poorly written! clearly doesnt reflect her character at all- just Sam writing it for drama. cause if i remember correctly, lexi wasnt even there at the carnival, or most events, how was she to know? Sam only used her play to stir the plot
@@Lara-we1ww exactly, lexi is still my pookie bear but that play was just shitty :(
and she made it so obvious who it was about, if she changed the names fully and didn't chose actors that look so similar then it wouldn't be a big deal
Exactlyyyy.
I didn’t really like McKay when it came to Cassie. I always thought he valued how he and their relationship was perceived by others rather than just loving Cassie and treating her well
i agree, he was very concerned with what other people thought
the thing about lexi’s play that really grinds my gears is the way they tried to make lexi seem like she was doing what’s right. like if they at least had some balls and had lexi make it fully aware the play was her revenge act, i could’ve liked lexi. instead they tried to make lexi seem innocent and like she was just working through her trauma when she literally put the carousel scene for no reason other than to embarrass cassie.
Cassie’s mom is very neglectful and I never got why people liked her…? I guess cause she had some funny one liners but she was never that emotionally there for her daughters and didn’t really distill self respect into Cassie. She often encouraged her dates and hook ups with guys And just never got her daughters the council they needed. She often drank and not much more, it was clear she needed help too and maybe it could’ve been a step that they all could’ve did together but saying your daughter “needs a fucking exorcism” while knowing she is very suicidal is not helping. It was important to note that she definitely knew Cassie had a habit of hurting herself otherwise she wouldn’t have tried to hide those knives from her and all the reactors laughing at Cassie while trying to do this just cause she’s irritating wasn’t cute either. Cassie isn’t some terrible person despite her many flaws so laughing at her suffering as an audience was never cool to me.
this!!!! yeah definitely people only like her for being "comedic relief" but character wise she sucks and a raging alcoholic, those daughters need help. euphoria is just a terrible show, i dont think sam even knows how to write at this point.
Exactly
Yes!! And I hated how her mom supported Lexi’s play and cheered while her other daughter was being utterly humiliated. That hurt my heart so badly.
“If she can get Nate to love her it’s like proving herself” I loved this. This is it exactly. I always tried to figure out why she’d want someone who hated her and this makes perfect sense. Thanks for putting that in words fo me
Yeah makes sense to me too. Like she’s trying to build her confidence by winning over someone who’s impossible to win
At first, I was really annoyed by Cassie in season 2. I thought she was behaving so immaturely, bordering on childish. But then I realized... she is a child. And I actually appreciated a show showing a teenager BE a teenager. Your hormones are going insane in high school, you don't think rationally, you think everything in your life is how it will always be. If you have a relationship that ends, you think "I'll never love anyone again" -- and that is how Cassie behaved. She was so desperate to be what Nate wanted her to be, she gave up everything about herself from season one. That isn't unheard of. I don't think she changed, fundamentally, but she made an unconscious choice to be different to try to get what she thought she wanted. She didn't think about who she'd hurt, because teenagers don't when they're so caught up in things like this.
She actually reminds me a lot of her namesake in Skins. That Cassie is the same sort of naive-seeming sweet character who is just good at being there for others, but she has this whole other thing going on inside, and she finally breaks.
I also like the concept that not everyone has to be likeable all the time. You were saying you really liked Cassie before and you didn't in season two.. that's good. That's realistic. Nobody is likeable all the time. She's in a phase. She has tantrums because she's a teenage girl who hasn't processed or even understood her trauma. I think these decisions for her were deliberate and well-executed, and I look forward to seeing how she is in season 3.
Saying that euphoria showed authentically teenagers is kinda cringe. None of their actions reflect real teenagers. At least not all of them. Not all teenagers drink, get high, have sex with random people, wear these crazy outfits like…no, euphoria isn’t about teenagers, it’s about how old people think about teenagers
It’s just so interesting how y’all don’t give Maddie that same grace.
It is very believable for a teenage girl with an absentee father to behave this way. Her issues with her father completely set her up for failure as the lack of a strong male role model does for most people.
@@mariettthhh not all but many if not most, I personally don't but most around me do but that's simply bc I don't really leave my house
Omg!! You're the first person who mentioned the terrible behaviour of Cassie's family during her mental breakdown. I watched like 10 videos about season 2 and NO ONE talked about it !!
What makes me mad is that they could've given her an amazing character development in season 2 (for example going to therapy and working on herself) but instead of that they just made her into an annoying character for no reason (seriously what was the point of her relationship with Nate in the last season?) The whole “love triangle” (if you can even call it that) was just overly dramatic and cringy.
Yeah I absolutely hated the love triangle 🤢🤮😬
The streets say that the reason it seemed to have come out of nowhere is because the arc was initially written to have Jules dealing with her feelings with Nate while also doing things with Nate and their relationship would have both Maddy and Rue involved and absorbed by it especially with Maddy having the tape.
However, due to a number of rumored reasons, none of which are actually confirmed, the arc didn’t come out with Jules and Cassie was written in as the stand-in for it which is why Cassie does a complete 180 and Jules does as well because even Jules cheating with Elliot makes far more sense and works far better if it’s with Nate since she realized in therapy she still did have feelings with him despite how horrific she is.
@@mkwhite5054 I didn't know that. Thank you for the information.
the new agers need to have their blair/serena/nate trope too lets call it that
there was a way to do it well and that is not what happened lmao...the original plot of the season was nate and jules secretly together and what makes more sense, maddy is still jules friend and that would be a betrayal and jules sneaking around behind rue's back would also create tension...but the actors hate each other so they had to rewrite for them
Honestly, I just felt so bad for Cassie all through out Season2. And then when she was having a whole mental breakdown and her family couldn't care less was just awful. Like if that had been my sister theres no way I'd let her spiral like that and feel completely alone.
Same, it's like the idea of her having relationship trauma regarding love or friendships didn't even cross her family's mind ????? She was literally collapsing after her affair with Nate came out. It's kinda weird how Lexi and her mother just judged her (emphasis on JUST, bc what she did was wrong for many reasons and they should help her to get that) and would not try to understand her side of the story, what was going on with her, why did she make those choices given the larger context, etc. I don't remember if they knew about the abortion or not, but if they did ?????? Wtf honestly Cassie needed more support in that moment. Maybe she got extra attached to Nate because their relationship, as flawed as it was, was the only thing she could lean on emotionally after everything that happened to her. It makes it a bit more understandable if you look at it that way.
Exactly. Especially the mom. It was made out to be some kind of joke about how annoying Cassie was in that scene where she was crying to her mom and Lexie. But, it’s a parents job to support your children and love them and guide them, ESPECIALLY when they make mistakes. Cassie is a literal child still who’s been through so much trauma and the reality is that there’s a lot of traumatized teenagers who have acted the same way. Her mom is honestly shit for not being compassionate to her daughter, this doesn’t mean not holding her accountable, however
and then her sister made a fucking spectacle of her and created a play about how stupid she is. how could you do that to your family?
the fact that everyone could see how she was falling apart and how she literally told lexi she wanted to die but everyone just sees her as such a villain and don't help her is so upsetting.
@@vdks07 yeah, it's not like she killed someone. She dated/hooked up with a dude who was 'socially off limits' 🙄 I feel bad for her, because she willingly went after a guy who was a known abuser without any regard for herself. Like damn, SOMEONE GO HELP HER😩
Cassie is such a complex character who happens to my favourite but I find her extremely irritating in season two, especially with the Cassie-Nate-Maddy storyline and I truly think that Maddy should be like “I forgive you but I’m not gonna be your friend.” because that’s such a healthy trope that I haven’t personally seen much of in tv (think of how Peyton didn’t really deserve Brooke in One Tree Hill). but I’d love to see this. All while understanding Cassie’s need for love and validation as an affect of her childhood trauma.. and I relate to her. On another note, Lexi was out of line with her play typically with the carousel scene, for Lexi to exploit a moment of complete vulnerability of Cassie like that isn’t even justified by Lexi feeling in her shadow. I understand Lexi’s frustration with living in her sisters shadow but this could have been fixed through communication if Cassie was to be like “actually my life isn’t perfect and I have problems too.”. Cassie being popular, physically attractive and being in many relationships isn’t something that will make her happy and also comes with its problems but it’s overlooked by her own sisters jealousy.
Exactly. Those things you listed at the end are actually the root of most of her problems, on top of her abandonment issues and her need for male validation/love being at the core of her childhood trauma, which makes her not exactly the most mature, wise and put-together person to deal with those issues in a healthy way.
We never see her friends be there for her in season 1 in particular Maddy who's supposed to be her best friend.... She had a abortion and her family seems to have forgotten about it
Everyone let her down bc she's pretty and they think she don't need everything BC she's pretty that's sad
As someone in my late 20s, Cassie reminds me of my younger self (due to a present but horrible dad). This show is very realistic, people have multiple sides and trauma makes you act out in ways you don’t even expect. I hope they show her healing whenever Euphoria ends
I felt like I’m one of the of the only people who thought lexi’s play was disgusting. Thought you shouldn’t take your siblings most humiliating moment and make a play about it.
I feel like everybody misses the scene where Maddie talks with her mentor in the pool.
Her mentor talks about how she used to be messy and nobody thought of her as wife material, and she even slept with her best friend’s ex.
And she explains to Maddie that she would’ve liked every guy that gave her attention.
This moment isn’t about Maddie it’s talking about Cassie!
Also it’s on purpose that they show Cassie naked a lot. It’s so you, the viewer, are starting to see Cassie as the other characters view her. You are meant to judge her, so they can make a point.
And hopefully they will come back on this in season 3, to complete her arc. For better or worse.
Thank you for this video. Agree with so many points made.
Especially for pointing out how terrible her mom and sister were to her. Even beyond as you said ignoring or mocking her mental breakdown, it is HEINOUS that her sister and especially her mother only react to Cassie dating an ABUSER is “wow why to break girl code.” No concern at all.
Literally! They should be concerned for her safety if she’s getting involved with someone like Nate
@@SerenaSkybourne Exactly! But Cassie in Season Two is written with ZERO empathy, so her family not caring if she’s in abusive relationship is “funny.”
cassie’s mental health was neglected by everyone around her in the first season and now that those consequences are being shown, people are saying she has a victim mentality when she literally is a victim.
She's a victim and a perpetrator. That's most criminals
@@AC-ri2ph well said tbh
@@AC-ri2phno Nate is the perpetrator
@@itsomarsopinion she is at fault for sleeping with her best friend’s boyfriend. She has just as much responsibility as he does for fucking up that relationship.
@@itsomarsopinion the fact that you were stating any different either shows that you were brainwashed domestic violence victim, or you’re 9 years old 😂😂😂
9:00 On this note: I had a friend in highschool who had triple D’s, and all the staff kept making really gross comments. When she brought it up to the school they literally Ignored her and told her to get better shirts.
like bro she LITERALLY COULDNT IT WAS JUST HER SHIRTS
I feel so bad for your friend. That’s awful and deeply unprofessional of the school
I also feel like people completely forget Cassie was wasted when Nate picked her up from the convenience store and hooked up. Yes she continued to per-sue the relationship while sober but I feel like she was feeling like a shit person then got drunk and did something that “confirmed she was shit” and went along with it because she feels like she deserves to be hated. Ultimately I don’t think she would’ve made that initial decision had she been sober.
same, and he knew she was wasted and still went for it, which is... gross to say the least. I wish I'd mentioned that in my review
I think you're spot on
A big gripe i have with cassie's nude/sexual scenes in euphoria is that they could have actually used the excessive amount of it in a really interesting way that would up her storyline even more. Like, we see Rue doing a lot of drugs, we see a quite raw portrayal of what drug addiction does to a family and everything like that, and we as an audience are almost like tested to still have compassion, and still have empathy for her despite really bad things she does. Cassie's excessive nudity could have been used like that, a way to test the audience to have compassion for her, and still be able to view her as a human deserving of respect and decency and autonomy despite being shown in a sexual light quite a lot. That, in my opinion, would have made for a brilliant use of the nudity, given a smart edge to the shock value of it and would have made the show a bit more meta in a sense. But uhh they didnt, and it shows.
Your point that the scene where she fights the actress on the carousel horse is representing her fighting herself??? Holy cow how did i never notice that symbolism before
I've never thought about it ????? I get where she's coming from, but maybe that's reading too much into it? Like adding an extra layer of deeper, more complex/sophisticated meaning onto something most likely surface-level from the writers' part? 😅 Hahaha but it's a good observation tho.
@@nocte.animam I think that when Sam was writing the script he definitely included symbolism in it for the audience to read deeper into if they wanted more than just the surface level story. Zendaya is on record as having said so!
Something I only noticed on the rewatch
I don’t necessarily love or hate Cassie, I relate to her and I worry for her and I empathize with her
Yeah cassie's childhood does explain why she's the way she is especially with boys to me her need to be love she allows boys to basically use her and disrespect her
You’re right about them not giving us enough insight into her head space. Every single one of her conflicts/scenes is about Nate. The end of her arc at Season 1 is her trying to learn to be alone, then suddenly in Season 2 she’s fucking Nate just because he gave her a little attention. The only non-Nate conflict she had before the final arc was an off screen argument with her sister. Was that argument really enough for her to run into the arms of Nate?
If she’d had an onscreen conflict with Maddie early on or had struggled with literally anything else that we could see it would have made more sense for her to be so vulnerable in that situation.
I think the problem lies in how the show decides to frame her as a whole. In the first season, we saw her made questionable choices, while still being framed as a sympathetic character, albeit a bit pathetic and meek. Season 2, on other hand, treats her in a way that feels very mean spirited.
Season 2 felt like a completely different show to me. The only thing that carried over was Rue’s addiction arc and general character traits and they brought her down a path that was just kinda outlandish and for the shock factor. Maddy’s character stayed fairly consistent aside from her as a babysitter not feeling believable but then again Maddy was never a full fleshed character just another manifestation of the spicy Latina trope. Overall I felt all the characters were dumbed down which is kinda insane because as you see more of a character you should be getting more depth but it was the opposite. I feel that Cassie’s internal motivations stayed pretty consistent between seasons but her external motivations, actions, responses and emotional expression felt far too drastically different especially when there wasn’t anything I can pinpoint as a catalyst for such an extreme change. When I watched the first season I thought it was pretty good but hoped that season 2 would be more character driven and less about shock value but we got the opposite. I think it’s very unlikely that season 3 will be able to redeem the show because it would need to connect the plot lines of late season 2 to the things that captivated the audience in season 1 and within this production bubble of Sam Levinson trying to do it all himself it seems near impossible to accomplish that
I’m a screenwriter as well so if the way I worded this doesn’t make sense please tell me lol would love to hear your response to my thoughts but don’t know if they came across coherently to people who don’t write
it would be great to make a big Cassie reveal in season 3, like explaining all the shit happened to her during season 2. all of her motivation and stuff
but deep down I know it's never gonna happen (because obviously the writers take themselves very serious and think they already filming scenes with Cassie from her perspective bruh)
But we really didn’t get any good perspective of Cassie’s side
Her motivation is that she has severe attachment issues caused by the fact that all of her potential male role models are shit.
I think the reason why Nate isn’t getting as much hate is because we all expected him to be terrible, he’s been since season 1. But for Cassie, it was just a huge disappointment because she was a favorite but given such a terrible storyline this season that made her as unlikeable as Nate. I hope they give her the storyline she deserves in season 3 but I have little hope with Sam levinson.
Watching season 2 as an adult (mid/late) 20s, i just felt sad and disappointed for Cassie but completely understood the character arc.
This teen has no one around her to actually slow her down and she needs help, but the only way for her (in Cassie's mind) to get it is to escalate. Writing a good character doesn't always equal writing a proactive and healthy character, which is what most people wanted for her. We all want the health Cassie but a sudden health and wellness arc with her going to therapy doesn't really make sense if everyone around her isn't in that headspace.
I hope in season 3 that she starts to get that arc, but Cassie's breakdown did make sense as a character and did show a realistic portrayal of the people around her (except Lexi writing a play, what wasn't but could be equated to cyber bullying)
What she needs is a strong male role model; unfortunately her lack of one set her up for failure.
I think that Cassie is one of the most complex and interesting characters in Euphoria. She can be deeply analysed from a psychological perspective. I loved her in season 1 but by season 2 I started to despise her. Loads of people give reasons why she acts a certain way but there is the other spectrum where people outright defend what she did. They would make excuses for sleeping with her best friend's abusive ex and will always bring up Maddy's errors to make Cassie seem like a better person. ABSOLUTELY NO!
Even though i despised Cassie in season 2, she had every right to whoop Lexi's ass after she included the carousel scene. In that scene, Cassie was high and she embarrassed herself but she wasn't really harming anyone. Lexi was just being petty.
It's so awful seeing Cassie's family. Love your videos!
I still felt for Cassie throughout season 2. I felt horribly sorry for her...
Especially in regards to her family's lack of support of her clearly deteriorating mental state.
Now, why hook up with Nate out of all people? I think he gave her the right amount of attention at the right time. She was already upset about McKay and Nate was just... there.
I love cassie analysis' that actually go over her daddy issues and don't fully throw her out as the villain
Same - i liked Cassie in season 1 and I wish her season 2 story would just continúe in a similar way.
I somehow felt that the last episode tried to convince us about that the scene when Maddie hit Cassie was an epic scene when Cassie finally “got what she deserved”. Actually I was shocked that this scene went viral with this narrative plus with the #teamMaddie. Making a scene because of Lexi and the carousel thing was totally valid in my opinion and the fact that Maddie hit her like a trashy cartoon character was just pathetic. I hate when a character who was disliked got a kind of “punishment” in a way when the other party behaved even more terribly in that situation and people are still cheering on it. 😒
Bruh😐it was for comedy get over it. Cassie slept with Maddy’s abuser. Cassie is not some fragile doe eyed baby, she CHOSE to hurt Maddy deeply…
Girls fighting over a abuser is not cute and I thought this show was “serious” and “dark”
@@tamialeslie7187 she wasn’t fighting over nate. she fought her because she betrayed her for her abuser. maddy doesn’t want nate
Cry about it
I hated that was everyone was rooting for Maddy to beat up Cassie. I felt traumatized.
Edit: if u feel, what Maddie did is right. Then you should also be ok with going through what Cassie went through.
It's like you thinking punching someone is fine, but you should also be ready to be punched back or ok with taking a hit .
I am not. Sorry. I am sorry, but I lost respect for Maddie after that. I didn't gain respect for Cassie either, but I have sympathy for her.
lol. Cassie literally started hitting a girl on stage. No wonder Maddy took that opportunity
@@nataliaperez6203 I thought she just pulled her off the horse and got on top of her to pulled her hair. I actually didn't see hitting. Yes bad but Cassie's intention was "I need to get this actress to stop because it's humiliating". I think Cassie would have backed down if the actress left by herself.
But Maddie intention was to beat Cassie up. She ran on stage, chased her, to slap her and when Cassie again tried to run away again, Maddie chased her and slammed her head against a wall.
One girl got physical because of desperation to stop something, and the other got physical because she got angry.
You could say Maddie was trying to get Cassie off of the actress, but Cassie ran way. So job done, right ? But Maddie continued to chase after her.
Did you notice Cassie never hit Maddie back even once? She should have at least tried to defend herself.
If there was one simple scene where Maddie slapped Cassie and both screamed at each other .I wouldn't have lost respect for Maddie .
@@dreamscomingtrue2446 "I thought she just pulled her off the horse and got on top of her to pulled her hair. I actually didn't see hitting. Yes bad but Cassie's intention was "I need to get this actress to stop because it's humiliating". I think Cassie would have backed down if the actress left by herself."
- So you're telling me that pulling someone's hair isn't the same as hitting her? i swear pulling someone's hair is sometimes much more painful than hitting to be honest. You're acting as if Cassie did nothing to the actress, yet she was screaming and she seemed to be in pain. Also Cassie was being a c*nt to absoluetly everyone in that scene.
"But Maddie intention was to beat Cassie up. She ran on stage, chased her, to slap her and when Cassie again tried to run away again, Maddie chased her and slammed her head against a wall. One girl got physical because of desperation to stop something, and the other got physical because she got angry."
- As she should??? Cassie straight up lied to Maddy, refused to fix their friendship when Maddy wanted to talk things out, started wearing the necklace Nate gave her, bragged about stealing "jake from martha" on stage and called her a c*nt. You're minimising Maddy's hurt and make it seem like she was having a temper tantrum.
"You could say Maddie was trying to get Cassie off of the actress, but Cassie ran way. So job done, right ? But Maddie continued to chase after her.Did you notice Cassie never hit Maddie back even once? She should have at least tried to defend herself."
- You're forgetting one little detail: Maddy was genuinely trying to be the bigger person until that happened. When Cassie chickened out and refused to open the door, Maddy tried to see it from her boss' POV, had to watch Nate and Cassie everywhere together and still held her tongue, watched as Lexi portrayed their friendship and overall held her tongue during the whole ordeal. The only moment she snapped was when Cassie brought up her relationship with Nate on stage. That's when Maddy snapped. When she saw that Cassie was being violent and had no remorse in what she did to Maddy that's when she hit her. Other than that, Maddy was really trying to be the bigger person. Also, Cassie is a coward and can’t fight. That's why she run like a chicken when Maddy chased her.
One key moment that was forgotten about yet could be so extramental to cassies mental state is her abortion. Just a thought but maybe the trauma from going through with a prodecure she never wanted, plays a huge role in why shes acting so differently now throughout s2? It doesn't excuse her actions, rather helps provide some insight as to why her behaviour is so self destructive? ❤️ What do you think? Love your video analysis serena!! 💛
i wish the show could have brought more attention to her abortion, they just dropped it!
@@SerenaSkybourne ikr!! Such a huge moment in cassies life just dropped like it meant nothing to her character? Ugh It’s one of my biggest pet peeves when shows do this! It happened a lot in pretty little liars & now its most obvious in euphoria with cassies abortion and rue owing money/ nearly been sold into trafficking. I hate when something is build up, then dropped with no explanation 😞
Your videos on Maddy & Cassie are some of the best videos I've seen in a long list of videos criticizing this season of Euphoria. If you plan on doing videos on other characters from the show (Jules & Kat) I look forward to them.
thanks, this is such a nice comment :)
this is very well done! i honestly agree with everything you mentioned and the way that cassie has gone down since s1 and you are absolutely right! great to listen to and reflect on and in a way learn from her, to not make her mistakes! thank you again 🤍
Love youuu 😭❤️
Cassie was character assassinated I said what I said
they made Cassie get with her best friends abuser it was like .... wow
Seriously, such a bad move
we either needed to see what happened before she met nate at the gas station (i kept waiting for the scene of lexi and cassie's fight) or him standing up for her in some way, in a genuine way, something that showed he actually cared...then it would make sense, coz all we saw was two people have sex for no reason and then one of them fell in love instantly and the other doesn't give a shit but for some reason still plays along LMAO
God cassie's family is terrible I really feel sorry for her because they really don't care about her
Cassie was one of my favorite characters in S1, she was quite relatable for a teenage girl with family problems but they completely ruined her character for me in S2 I couldnt defend her at all
i really do not care about the popular opinion, i absolutely love cassie
I personally think that Cassie has a love addiction + many other issues, people have mentioned she shows signs of bpd. Also romantic and pletonic love is really different. This does not excuse her behavior but it could explain alot of her actions. I find that people see everything as just black and white specially when it comes to Maddy and Cassie. I dont think Cassie ment to hurt Maddy intentionally. I think Cassie is so obsessed with the idea of being in love and being loved. Shes in her own world where reality of the situation dosent exsists or its just not hitting her. The attention / love she gets is kinda like a drug for her. I also think Cassie got humiliated alot while everyone else doing just as horrible things got out with no consequences. I thought the show would end with her character comitting. ngl. I didnt relate to Maddy alot cus her and i have oppisite personalities but Maddy is such a strong character. It really shows how people deal with trauma differently.
I looove that outfit and makeup! You definitely have to do a video on how you do this look and hair! 🤩
Thankyou 🥰🥰
Yeah the show definitely sexualize cassie god I can't stand that
And Sydney
That play had no right to be the way it was. Rue should really have been the ONLY ONE to actually like the play, and all the other characters should have felt bad about how they were portrayed and be mad with Lexi. Though I loved her mother's reaction to her character in the play, maybe it could have hurt even her. Her representation was accurate, and accurate public representations of parents are a sure way to make them mad about you lol (most times anyway)
Love the analysis
Cassie could go to diffrent ways next season
The one end could be she is still obsessed over Nate, they're on and off and then she gets pregnant
And if Nate is confirmed to be closeted or bi curious, Cassie may be just like his mom and hold that pregnancy over him
Or maybe Nate does something so bad to Cassie that Maddy and the other girls try to save her and help her start to lean how to love herself more
But really I think Maddy is the only one that can save Cassie because I don't know if Cassie can save herself anymore
Wonderful video! I didn’t watch the show but I know so much thanks to your content
Aww thankyou bby ❤️❤️
another great video of yours! i would love to see a video on nate next. he is a very interesting character and i would love to hear more of your thoughts on him besides his relationship to maddy or cassie.
To be honest, I'm not surprised that Cassie would do what she did, because... she would do anything to feel validated. Especially by a male gaze because her dad left and given all the other relationships they showed that she was in. She would say yes to things she didn't want to do in season one. It makes sense to me.
I do understand the anger by the play, that she had. However... at the same time, like with showing other people's lives, it's to given them perspective on how they act, how they seem, from another person's eyes. Lexi did let her anger and resentment for her sister, get the better of her, but what Cassie said to her, wasn't nice either. So... I kind of get both sides.
Ppl hating Cassie and cheering on Maddy is low-key a reflection of society
you should do one of us is lying! it's another one of pll done right, probably did justice more than the spinoff did! they stayed true to the book.
rewatching pll past s2 and realizing that the plots are so messy and all over the place, s3 is the most confusing.
Where can I watch it?
@@Jessica.Shawnte illegal sites maybe but its on "peacock"
I absolutely love euphoria and Cassie I’m so excited to watch this! ❤
I’m so happy to hear that haha
I really related to Cassie in some aspects in season 1... so I really wanted to feel sympathetic for her in season 2, but the direction they took her chararcter didn't make it easy.
It sucks identifying with her in 1 and then see what they turn her into in 2....
i think part of why cassie's family is making fun of her when she's like threatening to hurt herself, is that she seems to just be making a scene. like if cassie wanted to actually hurt herself, why would she use a corkscrew? idk if it was the topic being poorly handled or if it was supposed to be cassie just trying to get her family to feel bad for her in the situation by pretending she was gonna hurt herself. her distress seemed real to me, but her intention to hurt herself did not seem super genuine. to me it seems like when i'm not su!cidal but i'm like 'i wanna die', as opposed to when i actually wanna d!e...and as someone with bipolar i think i have somewhat of an insight into the character, but i think there was a more subtle way to pull off what they did with her....but to be honest, the original plot for season 2 was gonna be nate getting with jules but they had to not do that cause jacob and hunter hate each other and that would have made a LOT more sense
well sometimes u dont think streaight.. and i ones told a doctor that i had been through such thing and how i tried to off myself with a pillow and the doctor laughed at me saying i cant die from it but would likely just pass out. Dosent matter how stupid the object is tbh a corkscrew is still a sharp object anyway.
I’ll say it again the reason why this season is a Total shit show is because Sam never intended it to go pass 1 season that has to be the case because this is unacceptable
hey queenie! my understanding of why cassie started to pursue nate is actually a moment of self control cause she knows it will end badly through how he treated madi. even though it’s completely screwed up i think it’s cause with past men she had hope that they would treat her well and she’s been let down, so she thinks it’s self control to date someone she knows will treat her poorly rather then once again be disappointed by a new guy!
Hoping she heals next season.
I think the lack of scenes to help us emphasize is an active choice. It's asking us to be able to emphasize with a character even if we can't see their POV. The play call out was to the audience. Like how dare the viewers judge when we don't even know what's going on in her head.
I’d also like to mention in the aftermath of Rue airing out Cassie’s dirty little secret of her affair with Nate in front of well everyone else and Cassie keeps arguing with her family about her reasons for sleeping with Nate and not seeing the main principles of sleeping with your friends partners let alone ex partners I’d kinda can’t help but empathize the mom and Lexi being frustrated with her for not listening to them about why you can’t sleep with your best friends ex boyfriend and just acting all stupid about it and like if she had looked at the understanding of why your friends ex are off the market and looked upon herself and realized ‘oh fuck I actually am the one that caused this maybe I am the problem here’ then she wouldn’t have had some clownry on her and also what really pissed me off was the way how she would talk to Lexi like that for no reason calling her a nobody taking all the attention away from her just because you’re the pretty one in the family and how she thinks that Lexi was going to take all these insults like no no
6:56 my friends and I were just talking about this struggle 😵💫😵💫😵💫
I really don't understand hating on Cassie for sleeping with someone else's ex. Is that really a thing?
because he was an abusive ex is more of the issue i think
@@SerenaSkybourne okay. THAT makes sense. But you would think it wouldn't be met with anger, it would met with Maddy saying, "Cassie, you sweet, dumb bitch. He's not going to be different for you and we need to get you out of this."
@@ML-di8lt yeah im kind of confused by that too. I guess it was insinuated at the end when Maddy said: "this is only the beginning" because she knows things will get worse for Cassie
@@SerenaSkybourne I thought no one knew Nate's abusive? Maddy always lied to Cassie and everyone else about it in season 1 and the choking allegations were put on Tyler
Coming back a few months later to say that: to me, the way Cassie vs Kat/Jules/Maddy were treated by the writing this season is like. Imagine you’ve been craving pizza for months and you finally go out to a restaurant and order a pizza, and you’re real excited about it. But then, instead of giving you your pizza, the waiter just brings out a bowl of soup. And at first you’re like, alright, not my favorite but I don’t have nothing against soup, it’s still good food. But then the waiter drops his pants, and makes you watch as he takes a nasty shit in that soup, then spit a snot rocket in it. While occasionally throwing you bites of pizza rolls that aren’t cooked properly. Like, I didn’t get my pizza, and now I just feel really bad for the soup and wish I didn’t watch that happen.
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I actually kind of always saw Cassie as a victim than most people say. Not saying what she did to Maddie was okay it wasn’t. However in both season 1 and 2 Cassie have lots of silent cries for help and her self centered friends didn’t notice. Plus Maddie and Cassie don’t seem like much of best friends to me. Maddie and Kat are more best friends. Plus Maddie had to have known how horribly Nate talked about Cassie in season one and yet still dated him.
I think they show the guilt that she had, by justifying why she did it and especially the present she gave maddy on her birthday in ep 4, too. So she probably did do that, look through old photos to create that scrapbook of their friendship.
life has been so ass lately and then i saw 2 EUPHORIA POSTS FROM YOU WTF WTF I LOVE you serena
Here to save the day haha
What I really find funny, is that the writer of this show is shit at his job. Season 1 was only good because it was setting things up, introducing characters and explaining backstories. They even gave a special intro to each character.
Cassie especially feels totally different and unlikeable in season two. She becomes insufferable, selfish and entitled, and even psychotic. Season two basically uses her to sexualize her or to create more convoluted drama the season was lacking otherwise.
And yet some people try to bend and twist the interpretation saying that Cassie is actually a really deep and complex character whose sudden fundamental change in personality is justified by her trauma and something like that. The thing is, maaaybe this could've worked if the writers actually cared to use Cassie's POV or her thought process but no. We see her all season yet we never get to understand her or her motivations or reasons to do what she does. It just comes off as poor writing.
I really like your look in this video :)
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I love Cassie in season one but I’m not happy about Cassie in season two.
Yeah same
15:07 “Her mom should take her side simply because she’s her daughter” NOPE that’s not responsible parenting
I mean that even if her daughter messed up really badly she should still try and give her advice, or tell her how to apologise. Rather than just yelling at her
@@SerenaSkybourne Suze did take Cassie's side in public and was yelling at Maddy and scorning her behaviour. She just disagreed with Cassie in private
Cassie was a shitty friend but I will still feel bad for her 😭 I have a soft spot for cassie maybe it's just cause she's played by sydney sweeney but I hope cassie has a redemption in season 3
Honestly.....Nate was garbage no one talks about blackmail Jules and hurting Maddy .....and she was his girlfriend....That was really shoking for me seeing her bruises on her neck and how all this situation was handled by adults. Even Nate's dad knew what his son did and he was trying to teach Nate how to cover up abusive behaviour.....THAT IS WRONG...VIOLENCE IS VIOLENCE...not some lame excuse
I disagree with the fact that season 2 Cassie is a character assassination. I've seen women like that, women who are not able to be single, and will do ANYTHING (except self respect) to be with any men. They would throw anyone under the bus for a man and always "fall in love" with them when actually they have no idea what love is and have a deep deep problem and a pathological need to get attention from men.
Cassie has always been this girl, we knew it from season 1. She went for Nate just because he's a man nothing else yeah he's a bad person and they don't match but she don't care. She just NEED a man
And honestly I hate those kind of people
Agreed, plus some women intentionally "unintentionally" sleep with men that hate their guts but stuck around bc the men get free therapist they can traumatize even more, and Nate was Cassie's biggest hater.
Honestly the play felt sloppy. Like the writers included things in the play that lexis character wouldn’t just to bring more drama.
People also have to look at it from Nate's storyline as well, it doesn't make sense for him to even mess with Cassie at the New Year's party in the first place knowing that Maddie could destroy his life with the tape if she found out. He knew she had it before he pursued Cassie. It makes no sense on multiple levels.
To answer your question about Nate, I think fans don’t Give nate a hard time compared to Cassie is because a good chunk of the fan base already knows nates a piece of shit. Also, Fans don’t really care about Nate betraying McKay because The show didn’t care. McKay didn’t even find out about nate and Cassie , he would just disappear like he didn’t matter at all.
Love it.
Sadly a lot of the nudity, the situations and constant reminders are meant to make the viewer's uncomfortable.
We've gotten to a point where kids are so so available, no one talks to their children about safety, mental health and with teens there is how to be safe in relationships so if you do end up with an abusive boy/girlfriend you can have open conversations with your parents, and even then try teaching your teens about sexual health and how to better be relaxed and ready on their first time so girls have less pain, and a few less tears or abrasions because they can get relaxed enough to enjoy the fist time or what both need to do to be okay the first time.
How many teen boys still think girls should be on birth control all the time? It's really hard how the world for teens is now.
Good video
thankyou! xx
First cassie had also an abortion, so most of her behaviour can be explained By this. Awful sadness and no idea what her life is supposed to be.
Second GOD i hate cassie and lexi‘s mother. So Many fans love her over Rue‘s mom and i am like oh hell noooo! I mean she allows her underaged daughters and friends to Drink alcohol. She is like Regina George‘s mom „a cool mom“-trope. But at least Regina George‘s mom gave her daughter and friends alcohol free cocktails.
She is such an awful mother, i could gossip for hours.
One is Having an exstential Crisis not knowing what to do, the other one is growing to fast and really neglected.
They need their mothers guide but what she does is drinking and whatching that Television show
I honestly think Cassie has bpd and really needs help
at 24:14 when you said cassie has never been a bad sister - i think you missed their entire relationship on screen? cassie has always been self-absorbed like back in season 1 when she asks lexi if she's looking different and lexi asks if it was about daniel, cassie snaps at lexi saying it wasn't, prompting lexi to go off at her. there's also the beginning of season 2 when she meets nate outside a convenient store before they go to the party together. lexi is worried sick at the party asking if anyone has seen cassie because allegedly they had an arguement in the car earlier and cassie has stormed off. i thought that was childish of her to make her younger sister worried like that. and if lexi's play is 100% accurate there was a reenactment of when lexi first hit puberty or about to and was excited to grow breasts but cassie completely diminished her hope. in all saying this, lexi's play is still a low blow though, and i'm not defending her character in anyway, just that cassie is definitely not a good sister or friend.
To me that kind of sounds like an exaggeration kdjfkj Siblings fight a lot and coexisting in the same house or room can be hell. I'm speaking from personal experience. It's easier to be occasionally rude to your family if you're in a bad mood (not that it's a good thing, but still it doesn't necessarily make you a shitty relative imo, specially in such a broken home like theirs.)
The whole party thing... well, she was riding with Nate of all people so no wonder. Sometimes ppl don't answer their phones immediately.
And the last bit yeah, maybe it was kinda shitty hahaha
All I read is blah blah blah nothing you typed made her seem like a bad sister
@@Jessica.Shawnte definitely not a good one either
Lexi didn't even notice Cassie wasn't at the party until Maddy asked about her. And that was after Lexi left Cassie drunk in the middle of the road. Cassie's a mess, don't get me wrong, but Lexi's not getting a Sister of the Year award either.
@@meaghanburch9918 you have it reversed, lexi was asking maddy if she'd seen cassie and maddy didn't even know she wasn't there. and from the conversation between lexi and cassie, it was cassie who stormed off. agreed tho, lexi is not a good sister either
4:55 oh yeah I have that too, she's in love with the idea of being in love not the person, right?
Yeah that’s how I’d think of it. She loves love! It’s quite normal
24:14 agree👍
Cassie and Nate were not dating. They were screwing. I don't think he publicly acknowledge her until they went to the play together. That is not "dating". They first hook up in a parking lot, she's had a fight with (I think) Lexi, and didn't go to the party with everyone else. And I don't think we get told what that argument was?
Anyway, they all need therapy A LOT.
And I can't think of a sex scene in this show that is actually sexy, to me as an adult. I wonder if Sam realizes that, because it's a thing with all of his projects.
I can understand why cassie hooking up with nate, since the first season she can't say no, but what I cannot understand is why nate hooked uo with her. She is not that pure as he liked and he make fun of that all the time
Rewatching season 1 right after season 2, it was very clear that Cassie and Nate hooking up was always the idea since season 1 aired...
The love triangle 🤮
Im sorry but i disagree about cassie was not a bad sister. Cassie was definitely a bad sister, like she rarely was ever there for lexi and she always made lexi feel so shitty about her body and looks. And she never asked lexi about herself but she wants lexi to compliment and talk about her. Cassie always wanted to be the center of attention in her family (mom, dad, lexi) , honestly she treated maddy, kat and her other friends more like sisters than her own sister
No season 3 lmao
I'd be fine if Cassie would become an entertaining psychopathic villain like Meena Jutla from Emmerdale.
I wouldn’t say suze is neglectful but go off
Well no mum is perfect and there are way worse mums out there, but she doesn’t win the best mum in the world award in my book lmao
White woman tears gets the best of y’all
It's a common thing in Sam Levinson's work