Is the Emira worth buying with a Toyota Engine? Lotus Emira Reaction

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2021
  • Once again the Lotus Emira will be using a Toyota V6 engine. But is it really an issue?

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  • @RJayStyle
    @RJayStyle 3 года назад +34

    I love my Toyota’s and Lotuses. The Emira will be our next Lotus. My wife and I are extremely loyal to Lotus. I back then and support them as we own the brand. I can build them myself without breaking the bank in the garage. They will outlive a ton of the other vehicles as long as you don’t wreck them and maintain them. I can careless if someone calls my Lotus Evora or my Supercharged Elise a Toyota I will absolutely Love it and take that as a compliment. I come from a Toyota Supra past it is not a bad thing also work for Toyota as a master tech for many years. If you’ve never owned or driven a Lotus you won’t understand… Having a true manual gearbox is becoming more rare and rare these days. You are extremely connected when you shift through gears with a lever and clutch pedal. Minus a DCT shifting you through a paddle and computer doing the work. It can get pretty boring and unnatural quick. No offense to DCT some of the quickest shifting vehicles. Just not for me. I love the raw feel going through a gear box. Why change a formula that works extremely well! It is a perfect “Toyota” reliable engine paired with a solid transmission.
    Lotus cars are well balanced and extremely light. Anymore power and anymore strange electronics added especially with a DCT will dumb it down for me just my opinion. If you like not doing the extra work then get the DCT. I hate driving highly electronic future cars. And with the way the industry is going with all this non sense electronics and electrical ecus here and there good luck when they fail. The less electronics the better to repair. I work on Electric cars all day. One electrical system fails the entire car shuts down and you’ll be lucky to be in limp mode to crawl home crying. Lotus cars for me have been reliable, not to much garbage driven electronics, and are extremely well balanced overall. You should not be ashamed of having Toyota to back this vehicle. It is a massive company as well they target every aspect of every vehicle in the global market worldwide. Not just one country in every country. Unlike some exotic cars they are only a one market vehicle to cater to just one type of person. I see this car ranging to many people. Toyota paired with Lotus is a perfect formula. The Emira is not going to a one hit wonder company if you’ve already reserved your car you know what’s up!
    True Lotus car enthusiasts who actually know Lotus cars and have owned them know what it takes to build one. They are extremely capable vehicles out the box and can become extremely more then your average supercar/exotic that cost 3-4x the amount. Hey who needs to go crazy fast and Kill yourself. This Emira looks drop dead gorgeous even when it’s not moving and standing still. It’s not like you will be tracking this car daily. That’s what the Elise is for. Call me crazy I daily my Supercharged Elise to work and the wifey daily’s the Evora 2+2 with the kids to the grocery store. Having the Emira will complete the package if you are like us and go between both cars Elise and Evora.
    We keep our Lotus cars and one day we will pass them down to our children. They are timeless machines. The Emira is a knockout of a blend of the Hyper car Evija / Modern Evora / Modern Exige. True Lotus fans and enthusiast will see what has been created and will complete the Lotus garage family. You’ve got to be blind to not see it. It shares its body lines with many of the previous models. Just look at how Lotus entered the Emira into the public eye not afraid to race it out the box on live reveal and it rained for God sake! They brought out all the guns to show the world what heritage it took to create this future car and remind us what they had done from the past. It has no flat shapes, it is a sculpted art piece, and insanely beautiful with looks to kill. Again, great job Lotus for bringing another gas vehicle into the market and not a highly advance electronic car that drives for me. I’m glad once we get it we won’t have to charge and be worried when the battery will expire… Being under $100,000 is shocking. Find a car that looks this great at every angle for less then that and we will talk… Thank you Lotus!!!

    • @7markshark
      @7markshark 3 года назад +2

      A nice love letter to Lotus.

    • @HugheZ33
      @HugheZ33 3 года назад +1

      Yes!!! Thank you LOTUS!!! And thank you for this!!

    • @jacobcharles2773
      @jacobcharles2773 2 года назад +1

      Can the v6 hit 600hp? I want switch to a twin turbo set up and make a track focus exige?

    • @snowgo5922
      @snowgo5922 2 года назад +1

      No other engine on earth can compete with a Toyota engine except a Yamaha engineered Toyota engine.

    • @jimj2683
      @jimj2683 2 года назад +1

      I can buy a ferrari f430 for that price.... Tough choice.

  • @logical1677
    @logical1677 3 года назад +57

    I care about the engine coming from Toyota....
    Toyotas are reliable.

    • @tomindenver1331
      @tomindenver1331 3 года назад +9

      It was a determining factor in buying my Elise in 2005. A Toyota engine (well, actually, Yamaha in the case of the 2ZZ-GE in my Elise) just means it would run forever-and it still is.

    • @familyvids1
      @familyvids1 2 года назад +1

      super car looks with a toyota engine... i mean, isn't that the best of both worlds?

  • @Tritonal92
    @Tritonal92 3 года назад +27

    I don't see why this would be an issue. That V6 is a great starting point. Don't forget Toyota made the legendary 2JZ motor as well as the V10 in the Lexus LFA.

    • @bman1668
      @bman1668 3 года назад +3

      Yamaha made the v10 so did the components on 2jz , it’s not fully Toyota

    • @Quintessence.
      @Quintessence. 3 года назад +2

      Tritonal: the ugly truth is that the Toyota engine is an "issue" to some because of RACISM. The same prejudiced fools who gleefully label Asian tuner cars as "RICERS" are the ones who would dismiss a Lotus for being powered by Toyota. These are often the same ignorant folk who would explain away the defects and problems of European makes as being 'quirky' or 'charming' while giving no such grace to Asian brands. Never mind that more than a few Asian auto manufacturers (beginning with the Japanese) have built, and continue to build, high-quality vehicles that age well and seem to last forever. It is true that to the uninformed, nothing is obvious. So improved cross-cultural education may help reduce some of the problems. But sadly, the heart of the matter is a matter of the heart. And racism is deeply embedded within the heart of man. TRUTH.

    • @manuel-xax
      @manuel-xax 2 года назад

      @@bman1668 +10 Yamaha made that masterpiece.
      I'd love to get some "nice Yamaha" if I was to be in an LFA (or any car that might get that engine !) :-)
      So I know at least this "compliment" (sarcastic, at best; racist at worst) was made by an educated petrolhead :-)

    • @bman1668
      @bman1668 2 года назад

      @@manuel-xax lol what 😅😅😂 I guess new Aston Martins is Mercedes since it shares most of it parts including tranny / engine / interior pieces 😅😂😂🤣

    • @JayKanella
      @JayKanella 2 года назад +3

      Yamaha co develops EVERY single Toyota engine FYI. Technically, they’re all built by Yamaha.

  • @TheKniperlight
    @TheKniperlight 3 года назад +12

    Love the fact that it comes from toyota

  • @levik12
    @levik12 3 года назад +1

    You presented very good points and arguments towards purchasing my own Lotus Emira! Thanks.

  • @MethmalDhananjaya
    @MethmalDhananjaya 2 года назад +5

    AMG version would give some excitement with that DCT,
    but after the warranty wears off,
    Toyota 3.5 V6 would be more stable. specially with Manual.

  • @Liberty-Works1111
    @Liberty-Works1111 3 года назад +3

    Tthe Lotus Esprit in 1989 was the first time I saw one & wanted one... I am on my 5th Toyota powerplant, both V6's & V8's... They are war proof and when plumbed & tuned right.. Glorious in my opinion & I have hundreds of thousands of miles with them... I love Samurai Steel & I love Lotus... Match made in heaven... Sounds better than the BMW in the Supra...

  • @elainericketts8820
    @elainericketts8820 3 года назад +6

    ...What's the problem with the Toyota sourced engine??....The 2ZZ engine in my Elise is wonderful...I had a '66 Elan...that engine run so well, yet wasn't dependable.........using the Toyota powerplant was a genius move, imho.............

  • @lplf8
    @lplf8 2 года назад

    Hi great video, I wanted to ask if you think that the AMG engine will have a manual option, and would you pick that over the Toyota engine V6? I’ve read that the AMG engine will be faster and lighter, but not sure what the driver dynamics will feel like between the two, or whether the engine sound would be better in the V6 or the AMG?

  • @flyingkeisuke
    @flyingkeisuke 2 года назад +1

    Toyota engine idea is such a great concept. I love my Exige with Toyota collaborated with Toyota. Get real with reliability and performance that does not breakdown

  • @action76news
    @action76news 2 года назад +1

    The V6 should also have a DCT option for more track focus and a manual option for back road casual cruising

  • @jessepotter365
    @jessepotter365 2 года назад +1

    A Toyota engine and manual transmission is the only reason I would buy this car. I want something that's going to last a long time without having issues.

  • @cheesefries7436
    @cheesefries7436 3 года назад +3

    3:00 No it hasn't? What are you talking about? It's a solid engine built by a company known for reliability, no one complains about that engine in the Evora or any other car for that matter.

  • @Ace-vy3ps
    @Ace-vy3ps 3 года назад +2

    The problem with the V6 is space for a decent gearbox, the IPS and EA60 can't take much power, so no headroom for tuning. The engine to have is the fully forged, closed deck, two stage fuel injected, hand built, ground up performance designed M139. That engine will map to 500hp and take 600 with a bigger turbo, with a rifle quick DCT that can take it. The V6 is a bit long in the tooth now.

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora 3 года назад +10

    Toyota engine will use the same auto transmission as the outgoing Evora and Manual transmission. The AMG will only carry a DCT. only 3 transmissions.

    • @fullyplantd
      @fullyplantd  3 года назад +6

      Yep, found this out after posting the video. I strangely quite liked the Evora auto when I drove it, it is slower than a DCT but has this rev matching thing on the downshift which makes it a lot more dramatic than a PDK.

    • @williamtuttle296
      @williamtuttle296 2 года назад +1

      @@fullyplantd JUBU Performance in Austria makes s quality DCT gear box for the Lotus Emira Toyota V6. They have video of it. It's very nice.

  • @ms8742
    @ms8742 3 года назад +1

    I get what you are saying about DCT and the 6 cylinder for mass acceptance, but as a driver, the fact they have the manual is why I am buying it. So there is that aspect on the other hand.

  • @larryroyovitz7829
    @larryroyovitz7829 2 года назад +2

    The 2GR is one of the reasons I want an Emira. Not just reliability (which is bonus) but a supercharged 2GR rips. Why fix something that isn't broken?

  • @earthstick
    @earthstick 3 года назад

    The DCT will only be with the 4 cylinder. The giveaway is that they also do the IPS automatic. So it will be manual and IPS auto with the V6, ala Evora, and the DCT with the 4 cylinder.

  • @williamtuttle296
    @williamtuttle296 2 года назад

    JUBU performance in Austria makes a quality DCT gear box for the Toyota V6 Lotus Emira .

  • @ghostridertom
    @ghostridertom 3 года назад +1

    It is a modified EVORA but that IS a good thing :-) No one ever tried one and bought one (I did) and with this new "NeoEVORA" more people should experience a Lotus DNA with some modern features. It is the last chance...

  • @BrianGriffen71
    @BrianGriffen71 3 года назад +2

    I suppose the same question could apply to a Ford GT or a Nissan GT-R.

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 2 года назад +1

    That’s the only reason it is worth buying, reliable low maintenance.

  • @edmasoud2826
    @edmasoud2826 Год назад

    I would rather have a reliable Toyota engine than unreliable European engines in the Emira. If fact I am now leaning towards the emira and wanting to put a deposit because of the Toyota engine which will give me a peace of mind. I am not sure their transmission is also made by Toyota it would make it even more appealing. Lotus has great handling than some of the competition. Great video..

  • @zyh6566
    @zyh6566 2 года назад +1

    I would pick the SC V6 over the AMG 2.0T anytime. The sound and reliability is much much better

  • @patrickvanrinsvelt4466
    @patrickvanrinsvelt4466 2 года назад

    Umm, Toyota powerplants have been in Lotuses since 2005 and safe bulletproof when taken care of. My 111R had never had any issues safe for the little plastic bits that break.

  • @joelraza1554
    @joelraza1554 3 года назад +2

    Thank god it's a Japanese engine and not a shittey British engine! Pretty impressed with the sound of that Toyota/Lexus V6. Now imagine if they make a version with the V8 that they have on the new IS500...!!! I'm buy one fosure and in yellow with black wheels please!

  • @shughes911
    @shughes911 2 года назад

    Lotus owes it to the them selfs to have their own motor! That’s why I want but one! However the emira looks stunning

  • @ago7212
    @ago7212 2 года назад

    Ideally they could have dropped a turbo V-6 Cosworth in it but that would have bumped the price up to 130K....

  • @brianhimmelman420
    @brianhimmelman420 3 года назад +1

    Why does Lotus quote the new manual v6 at 0-60 4.2 and the outgoing Evora GT at 3.8 ?

    • @nicko1575
      @nicko1575 3 года назад

      Weight

    • @brianhimmelman420
      @brianhimmelman420 3 года назад +1

      @@nicko1575 ouch!!!! Sad have to give up performance for beauty

    • @pokecollect32
      @pokecollect32 2 года назад +1

      I personally think the Evora gt is the better looking as far as interior goes. The emira Interior is just meh to me. It's just not perfected to me. Plus Evora gt 0-60 3.8-3.9 vs 4.2-4.5 seconds ouch

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb 2 года назад +1

      Just wait for the hybrid, the amg c63 is getting a 600bhp based off the 2.0 amg engine

    • @zyh6566
      @zyh6566 2 года назад +1

      @@pokecollect32 agree.. the only thing the evora lacks is the digital dash and the infotainment system.

  • @americanjoe9767
    @americanjoe9767 2 года назад +1

    That is the only good thing it has!!!
    Even Supra don’t have Toyota engine and people are hating on it and sales are down!!! New coming Nissan 400z is going to be great with Japanese engine and it’s going to be under $40k!!!

  • @nicko1575
    @nicko1575 3 года назад

    3.4 sec for a exige 410 0-60 is bloody fast

  • @Tigerex966
    @Tigerex966 2 года назад +1

    We need a manual with the 4 cylinder.

    • @lplf8
      @lplf8 2 года назад

      Is there going to be one is this confirmed either way?

  • @lbarbato6425
    @lbarbato6425 3 года назад +1

    The AMG 4 cylinder is a much better more advanced engine along with the DCT, only de tuned for now. As EU emissions get stricter the Toyota engine may be dropped and the AMG may then see full 310kw by 500 nm torque, then you have a weapon on your hands. Interesting to see if that happens as the Emira’s life cycle is round 10 years, let’s see.

    • @zyh6566
      @zyh6566 2 года назад

      If only for the sound and reliability I would pick the V6

  • @steveness7909
    @steveness7909 2 года назад +1

    Don't be an idiot..... Toyota makes great engines, and this one is very special ! All aluminum V-6 , 4-cam 4 valves/cylinder with an Edelbrock supercharger. Have you REALLY driven an Evora and heard the engine screaming. Wonderful cars

  • @Greg_Chase
    @Greg_Chase 2 года назад

    Toyota had a factory team in Formula One for many years, nearly 2 decades. And Toyota has had a racing division for a lot longer.
    I can't help but point out that the locus of Formula One engineering talent - including the majority of F1 constructors - are based in England.
    I've been buying Lotus cars new, from dealers here in the U.S., since my first purchase in 1996 - a Lotus Esprit S4s.
    My latest is the Evora GT that has the V6 Toyota pumping 416hp.
    The car screams. It is lighter than the Emira, and its 0mph-60mph is 3.5 seconds or less.
    Lotus increases performance in its cars each new model year. That was true for
    - the Esprit
    - the Elise
    - the Exige
    - the Evora
    The Evora started off with 260hp and the final version was 430hp.
    This 400hp 1st version Emira will have its performance incrementally increased, with each new model year, which is what Lotus does with all its models.
    I predict they will lean very hard on the v6 and maybe replace it with a larger-displacement and bigger supercharger, and that the final Emira version will slam 650hp at the rear wheels, or perhaps a combination of ICE on the rear wheels and 2 electric motors to drive the front wheels to reach 650hp by the 2025 to 2027 model year.
    Do we have any clues to this hp increase? YES.
    Recall that the Lotus brand's claim-to-fame is 'less weight'
    Also recall that the Emira is HEAVIER than the Evora it is replacing.
    Why would Lotus throw shade on it's brand's lifetime heritage? Maybe because the chassis was designed up-front to handle a lot more HP that they know is coming in future models.
    Instead of having to reinforce the chassis for more HP later - which is not desirable - they planned ahead because they are going to keep increasing performance with each new model year of the Emira, and they won't have any engineering risks with a weak chassis.
    The chassis is over-built for the 400hp load of the 1st model year.
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    • @doriangray2347
      @doriangray2347 2 года назад

      It is the widest car by a few inches now. It will be the anti-leaning machine. The weight is in the anti vibration and the width.

  • @jaymy3222
    @jaymy3222 2 года назад

    It comes with the AMG turbo 4 and the other option is the AMG V6 supercharged making 360hp/400hp depending options. WTF are you talking about!

  • @LRS7B
    @LRS7B 2 года назад +1

    *07:14* For someone who claims to love Lotus, you clearly don’t understand the ethos.
    And so what if they’ve reused the engine (Just like the new RS3).
    What is the point of this upload ??

  • @loborojo777
    @loborojo777 3 года назад

    An $80,000 MR-2?
    Sold.

  • @Davidzc0
    @Davidzc0 3 года назад +2

    Lotus have never used a single clutch. It’s a torque converter auto which is completely different... get your facts straight

  • @user-yp6me1ix9e
    @user-yp6me1ix9e 3 года назад +1

    This is a shock car.maseratti mc20 now is dead.. lotus was a jokes for me.this one is my favourite love!!!

  • @zzzzzsleeping
    @zzzzzsleeping 3 года назад +2

    TOYOTA ALL THE WAY ! THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY want -- THE REST ARE JUNK.
    Maybe somehow an after market manufacturer will sell DCT for Toyota V6 ??

  • @conecrazy
    @conecrazy 2 года назад

    I think the Evora and the Emira is more Toyota than the current Supra.

  • @lepooj12
    @lepooj12 3 года назад

    well it sounds good (most important) and its reliable, so why not.. i hate toyota but if it sounds good its good

  • @KINGJADEX
    @KINGJADEX 2 года назад +3

    I’m gonna get the AMG engine anyways. 😁

  • @JohnLee-db9zt
    @JohnLee-db9zt 3 года назад

    For this application, the supercharged Toyota engine is better than any engine made by the Europeans .

  • @knopf8525
    @knopf8525 2 года назад

    for me is egal the motor! Lotus is fort my the best experience for the driver......

  • @LostChildOfTime
    @LostChildOfTime 2 года назад

    "Nice Toyota."
    I guess that's an insult coming from a person with an overpriced Volkswagen.
    Honestly, I'd probably feel more insulted if I had an NSX and someone said, "Nice Honda." You got me... I'm rich and I still give a fuck about something reliable that I'm more likely to crash and wouldn't care if I did as long as I survived.
    But a Lotus? In 2023, you can only get me if you say something like, "Nice Volvo." Now you've gone too far.

  • @tomcarlton2064
    @tomcarlton2064 3 года назад

    That’s one side but realy more importent the money CHINA!!!😱

  • @paulricketts1089
    @paulricketts1089 Год назад

    .....what's the problem with having a RELIABLE POWER TRAIN??.................me thinks it's a selling point.....

    • @goldwyn19
      @goldwyn19 Год назад

      5:08 “nIcE ToYoTa mAtE”

  • @wilmcq
    @wilmcq 2 года назад

    it has a Mercedes AMG engine

  • @jordipi7652
    @jordipi7652 3 года назад +1

    Toyota is very reliable engine.

  • @user-od5sr6fo4l
    @user-od5sr6fo4l 2 года назад +1

    トヨタのエンジンは故障しませんよ!

  • @anthonywilson2979
    @anthonywilson2979 2 года назад

    Is a Rolls-Royce worth buying with a BMW engine
    It's a Toyota block the rest is lotus built but I hope the engine accessories starters pumps etc. Is Toyota
    The 4 cyl is a Mercedes built that does not make it better ! A Toyota base is absolutely better for 4 cyl

  • @rgarri6396
    @rgarri6396 2 года назад

    What am I missing, lotus in America if famous for poor workmanship.

  • @touayaaj84
    @touayaaj84 2 года назад

    I have a bmw engine in my Supra.

  • @andyhughes1776
    @andyhughes1776 3 года назад +3

    I take the AMG engine over the Toyota any day even though it's only a 4-banger.

    • @boa974
      @boa974 3 года назад +2

      What’s your reason for this choice?

    • @andyhughes1776
      @andyhughes1776 3 года назад +4

      @@boa974 1) AMG is legendary in tuning high performance engines for Mercedes, a high end brand. If I'm going to pay close to $100k, I don't want a Toyota engine, 2) A 4-banger is lighter than a 6, therefore the car will be more nimble.

    • @bman1668
      @bman1668 3 года назад

      @@andyhughes1776 less reliable same power as v6

    • @andyhughes1776
      @andyhughes1776 3 года назад

      @@bman1668 Proof?

    • @bman1668
      @bman1668 3 года назад +1

      @@andyhughes1776 Toyota v6 is more reliable than amg motor same out put, 400hp from v6 or 380-400hp form smaller 2.0 which u think gonna last longer?

  • @Vishnu-bb1oh
    @Vishnu-bb1oh 2 года назад

    I don't give a dam about anything
    Im going to buy it in future in USA

  • @jonzostooks
    @jonzostooks 3 года назад +1

    Yes. Merc = poverty spec

  • @ChrisDallasDualped
    @ChrisDallasDualped 3 года назад

    If you buy this there's only one way, you buy it with the Mercedes engine not the Toyota, WTH are you thinking?

    • @fullyplantd
      @fullyplantd  3 года назад

      I think it will be the 4cyl from the A45 and not the A45s, which means lower BHP and won't sound as good.

    • @garysmith1477
      @garysmith1477 3 года назад +3

      The V6 manual will be the best selling option for this car.

    • @gjonno
      @gjonno 3 года назад +1

      In the UK at least the V6 manual will greatly outnumber the amg 4 pot. The car will largely be bought by the more ‘mature’ driver who has the money for one of these as part of their collection. If it were a track car, then that may skew the numbers towards dct option, but it isn’t. Toyota engine sounds great too!!!

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 3 года назад

      @@garysmith1477 the 2.0 merc engine with the dct will no doubt be the best selling of the 2 but that means that the real gem will be the 3.5 v6 manual if you just want to cruise and showoff then the merc 2.0 is for you but the 3.5 manual will probally be a future classic and will hold its value far better and to mention lotus having been running this toyota v6 like forever so reliability and parts will be easy to soruce and cheap in fact it might even appriciate in the future to come as ev cars starts taking over people will long for the day of cars with manual box and high reving engine note for nostalgic sake this is trully the best and final hurrrah of a classic sports car.