The Basket Case And The Jock | The Breakfast Club (1985) | Screen Bites
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- Follow this beautiful love story between two completely different archetypes; Andrew the 'jock' and the Allison the 'basket case'.
The Breakfast Club (1985) SYNOPSIS: Five high school students from different walks of life endure a Saturday detention under a power-hungry principal (Paul Gleason). The disparate group includes rebel John (Judd Nelson), princess Claire (Molly Ringwald), outcast Allison (Ally Sheedy), brainy Brian (Anthony Michael Hall) and Andrew (Emilio Estevez), the jock. Each has a chance to tell his or her story, making the others see them a little differently -- and when the day ends, they question whether school will ever be the same.
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"I can see your face." I love that that's what Andy notices first, he clearly liked her all along, and likely wouldn't have minded had she gone back to her old look.
There’s little hints here and there that he likes her, especially when she says “HA!” He smiles lol
I noticed that they held hands when they were walking down the steps! I never noticed that before!
@@chrysrubio1024 when does she say ha?
@@nicole.24 she says it in response to Claire, when she's complaining about how her parents "use [her] to get back at each other"
I noticed that now too!
gym bro and goth girl are a tale as long as time.
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No@@jammmmmk
@@jammmmmkbro what-
lmfao
The way he almost cries when she admits her parents ignore her is so sweet🥺 true empathy
Agreed, it's a very understated but meaningful moment between Andy and Allison. She's constantly ignored by her parents, while his, especially his dad, never stop paying attention to him, so they've connected on a deep, emotional level.
In one of my head-canons he grows up to be a counselor.
KIds ussually think they deserve the treatment they get. It's easy to imagine that an ignored child would expect their issues of being ignopred being because they are unworthy of attention, and if they shared that, would probably expect that issue is unworthy of attention, and should be ignored aswell. She pushes him away when he is trying to give the real her attention. He respects her request and starts to leave. She's in control, and she chooses to share, when he does. It's obvious he's leaving because he cares. He doesn't ignore her request. Allison is torn because part of her wants to be seen, and part of her needs to test that people won't ignore her. She's lived in the self-fulfilling propfecy of it. That's what people do. Andy caring, and seing it as a problem that she is ignored would have been a very powerful moment. She also see's through his image, and doesn't care about it. Basically, they both break eachothers cycles by caring about eachotyher behind the masks that everyone else accepts them for, but leave them feeling dead inside. It's a beautiful story, and I think there is a reason this movie has stood the test of time. These characters were all real people, forved out of their comfort zone, and put together, interacting in very real, messy, and honest ways. I think that's why TBC ias honest and imprfect, and I think that's why it makes us feel so much. Later we learned how to construct film formulas that make us feel, but keep us in our comfort zone.
@@Ace-nq4cp Nice written!
I love how Andrew can't stop looking at her,like he can't stop seeing her.
He lowkey looks like a Ken but like a cooler kind
Even the actress said she felt like the pastels were too much for her character.
I personally felt like if they had put her hair back and a crappy tee she still would’ve been fine.😂
I don't have a problem with the pastels. It's the big floral headband that I could never look past xD
@@kevinjones9586 absolutely you did Kevin, I’m sure of it…. 🙄
It's the makeover she didn't need, but so glad she got.
Simply put the makeover was more about Claire anyway being nice to her
So many talk about Alison having a “makeover”, it wasn’t about being made over, it was her shedding some layers so to speak (hair out of her face, the deep black eyeliner, the bulky coat and sweater off) so everyone (but especially Andy) could see HER and not what she hid under. Even Ally Sheedy has spoken in the past about it being her idea to not put so much more makeup on Allison but taking it off.
i love that brian noticed allison’s makeover, but he still let them have their moment
I agree, Brian is such a sweetie, and my favourite character. I also liked that he gave a positive reaction, and also when Allison kindly thanked him for complementing her. I like to think that Brian and Allison stayed friends after the detention, since they were already similar.
I find the end so unusual that their parents just let them kiss and act so nonchalant. But I guess it’s like they said, they ignore them.
Precisely, I always thought that it was strange that they causally kissed people they literally met that same day in front of their own parents. I would probably cringe if that was me! 😂🤣
You can see at the end that the jock’s dad was curious who the basket case was.
I’m guessing Andy’s dad probably pestered Andy about the identity of the beautiful girl he was kissing the whole ride home 😂
It was the 80s every body kissed everybody
double00shotgun
No, we did not.
I love Brian's character development so much!! In the scene they leave the school, even the posture and walk of him is so confident. Aw I adore him
😮 Brian was the Only one that didn’t get the girl…😢
Agreed, Brian is easily my favourite, and I love how he's acknowledged Carl in front of the other kids, which he was afraid to do earlier on. He might not have gotten together with anyone, but he still has plenty of time to meet someone.
@@cocochanelly5193dw he’s happy
don’t need a SO to be happy
Hes my fave too
"why are you being so nice to me?"
-"because you're letting me"
Honestly the kindest thing Claire ever did for ANYONE in the whole movie
My heart breaks when she says “they ignore me”
brilliant line. because all of them felt that--just didnt know it like she did.
I really love the breakfast club, I know some people critcize it for being too clean, but I feel a movie doesnt have to be crude and extreme to tell its message. To me it did its job rights while still being enjoyable and palatable
What u mean too clean? Im so confused?
@@bhavanijayant526 they're saying its not "dark" or messy enough, for example like Euphoria(which is trauma, drugs)
No offense, but I Dont think anyone says that. And if they do, they are immature. If they want dark, they can find it.
@@takemeseriouslynt Breakfast Club is way more realistic than Euphoria
3:15 one of the funniest lines in the movie for me 🤣
Yeah 😂
I was in high school when this movie came out . Unreal how much things have changed .
Wish that those times came back
no bro you don't
Everyone thinks that, when they get old. I'm 41 and I'm getting it now. You think your generation is the best and the new generation just doesn't get it. Greek philosophers were complaining about it. It's nothing new.
We see the past in rose-coloured glasses.
@@ReasonMakeskids are soft nowadays
@@tonkatruck8294 would you rather they suppress their emotions and end up abusing those around them even more? kids are soft because they're trying to not be like their parents
I wish that they'd included a third girl for Brian to stop him from being the fifth wheel. But then again, he didn't seem to mind, and it might have felt too contrived to have everyone perfectly paired up.
Yeah then we'd have a forced plot.
His wheel was the paper he wrote at the end. That was his kiss.
It honestly fits the character. Most guys like that don’t really have many women see them in the same way as the other guys here.
Yes it would have done. Too convenient. Anyway, he has his paper, so all's well that ends well.
I think showing you don't have to find someone because all your friends do is a pretty good message. Sometimes things that matter to you can take a long time to come about, and sometimes it's more important to learn to love YOU before sharing yourself with someone else. As someone who's asexual, I felt very seen by his character, but I think it's important for anyone regardless of sexuality to understand they can be defined by more than a romantic love to someone else.
One of the best coming-of-age films ever made.
amen
Definitely.
"Stand by me" is one of the best, too
@@j.l.starling8934
And “The Outsiders”.
@@mattslupek7988which Emilio Estevez is also in !!
@@delina9735
Yup.
I've seen a lot of people saying how they think the makeover was either too much, or just unnecessary, but I honestly think it was perfect. It wasn't to change her, or cover up who she is; it was to show the real her, and allow her to open up and feel good about herself. She wore all of the dark clothing and makeup because she felt invisible, and she didn't really want to be noticed. But by the end of the movie, after having confided in people (especially Andy) who can understand and relate to her, she was more comfortable with herself, which is what I believe that represents. And I also think that Andy liked her before the makeover, as well. He payed quite a bit of attention to her throughout the film, and obviously cared enough to listen to her and even defend her. To me, the makeover just made him like her more than he already did, because he got to see more of the real her, that was underneath the surface. And I just absolutely adore the way he looks at her when they're walking down the hall, the way they hold hands, the fact that he gives her his jacket, how he holds onto it as she pulls away, like he doesn't want her to go, and especially the way he stares at her even as they're both driving away, as if he's trying to memorize every detail of her. They're just so perfect for each other in my opinion :')
I agree with this comment so much omg thank you for this 🙏💕
Agreed! Also, I think their relationship could continue on from here and maybe even last! Their relationship and attraction is subtle and based on connection. Claire and Bender’s relationship is fiery and passionate, which can fizzle out without a connection. Their relationship was forged, in part, with the idea of making her parents angry. I just don’t see it being strong enough to last past the end of the school year if that
it's like the makeover of Melanie Griffith's character in Something Wild ~ from gangster mol to girl next door
Imagine being in detention with people you don't know, and then they become your best friends, or at least new friends
All it takes to do that is a little group therapy and sympathy.
It’s John Benders dream, he’s asleep
The ending always warms my heart, it's so touching. This film will never get old for me!
I love Andrew, he’s asking that question to her not because he’s curious but because he does really care about her.❤❤
7:30 i like when Allison looks at Andrew when she said "i whould do it though, if you love someone thats okay" Andrew looks at her
What I love is that Andy barely knew who Allison was before that day, ..but then as the day went on, slowly he became intrigued by her and drawn to her. Getting her to open up, really wanting to know why she felt so reserved and alone. And by the end of the day, when he saw the real her underneath all the black, he was attracted to her. And I don't entirely mean when Claire did her up, but when Allison wasn't afraid to come out of her shell and tell the group things about her. Especially Andy. ❤
I ship both pairs, but in the end, I'd say I ship A&A a bit more. ❤️
At about the same time Emilio Estevez And Ally Sheedy Were Kissing On Screen I Met My First Love
So the Breakfast Club Has Significance For Me
Tuesday January 22nd 1985, Exactly 12 Years After Joe Frazier Lost His Heavyweight Title To George Foreman In Jamaica
Usually the weirdest and quietest in the room is the smartest and most observant( like allison.)
EXACTLY
I’m 33 now, and I was underage when I first saw this movie. Some parts are emotional and other parts are memorizing that you remember every word. The moment that Andrew talk to Allison, to Claire redo her makeup, she is just adorable
I remember every single word of the movie
one of the best movies from a decade stuffed with great movies. one location, 7 characters, and lots of talking.
Note to self…bring back “there’s no deal, Sporto”… into every day conversation
Ally does an incredible job. I just love her as Allison
Molly Ringwald is one of my favourite actresses. I always identified with her John Hughes characters. But this movie I identified as the basketcase. Ally Sheedy is an underrated actress.
It's funny but I honestly think they will talk again to each other in high school on monday. Allison and Andrew are undoubtedly the two characters who have had the most character development: Andrew no longer wants to follow the path set by his father, and Allison is more open to others to the point of confiding in Andrew her life and her trauma. And it's obvious that they like each other, Andrew can't stop looking at her and they had no shame when they kissed in front of their parents. They will talk again in high school and, in my mind, they will even consider starting a relationship ❤
i liked them so muchhh, more than the main couple
I think of them as the main couple
@@aquawarper7328 oh absolutely!!
10:55 How many people know that's John Hughes himself playing Brian's dad picking him up?
This is really an underrated pairing!
I love how she looks exactly the same during the transformation 😂
Yup, because she was already beautiful. She just needed to open up for everyone to see it more clearly.
7:31 sweet exchange of glances 🥰
There's no love like that first love, especially in high school
at 11:32 when Andy drives off you can see him wave to Allison
he was sunshine, i was midnight rain
I never thought of it that way, but you're right. They're totally a Midnight Rain couple!
Haha, the good old counterpart.
You are trying so hard to have aesthetic , it doesn't work like that. People who don't try and naturally have their own are it. Not one who proclaims herself as midnight rain. There's the people who write songs and the people who have songs written about them, you're trying so hard to be the ladder
I always wanted them to be in there own separate movie
"Are you gonna be like, a shopping bag lady?"
That was a very p.c. 80's term for it
That part was hilarious.
Andrew's dad looked at Allison, then at Andrew with an almost smile. Perhaps on the drive home he didn't ignore Andrew asking him who the babe was.
Man, Brian is just like me. Pressured by his parents to have the best grades, does all the work, and never gets the girl.
Brian will have the last laugh
High school relationships never last anyways
"The girl is an island unto herself"
😂😂😂
Allys sound afecta are so adorable😂
The slightly forced romance plot, all that I can forgive. But pastels? Really
Underrated comment.
Truly underrated. I wish people would quote this movie more often
Lmao if you get this comment, more power to you
I see u Morticia ;)
I wish I knew the context
“Grab some wood there bub”
It's been so long since I've seen just how adorable the emo girls are.
Emo’s wasn’t a label back then.
I have never fully seen the movie before but as the clips kept coming I was like she's the old version of the rawr XD kids. Completely unapologetically super weird nonstop.
what they did to her was criminal
Wym?
@@kippersvindaloo6713 they made her stereotypically pretty/took away her own style
@@larabi9543 She didn't like her style. It was a cry for help.
No she looks happier and u can see her face more and added a bit of makeup thats it
Here's the thing. That wasn't her style. That was how she was coping with her depression. Kinda messed up that it took a guy to do that but it is what it is.
I can't not see Emilio as Gordan Bombay.. i just cant 😂
Also the song the song at the very end, old music is epic.
came to comment again; what I always thought was so fascinating about this film and these two characters (having seen this as a kid before high school)
I thought it was most evident that even jocks/athletes/the cool guys notice the most average looking, potentially ugly/prettiest girls that everyone might think is weird.
its been a reoccurring thing throughout my life up until college.
Manic pixie dream girl syndrome
Can you elaborate please?
Yeah, there were plenty of gals in my school, that weren't the popular pretty girl, but blossomed later in life; some are now 40 something, with 3 kids, & even more beautiful than ever.
@@laylalofe5269 Sometimes the hot ones aren't all that, and the average janes are, is my point.
@@willh7352 ah you're talking personality wise.
Didnt notice before at the end that brians father is john hughes.
also at the beginning, brian’s mom and sister are anthony’s real mom and sister!
Brian’s character is also probably a stand in for young John Hughes. Which is why his ultimate affirming moment is writing the paper. Because John Hughes writes and directs. That being his emotional outlet
But can we talk about the soundtrack for their relationship though? That love theme when Andy sees Ally again, oooh! It's so romantic!
It's almost as though he liked her before the makeover, y'all. 🤷♀️
Hoping to go to des plains, just outside of Chicago where the ‘school’ now a police headquarters is where this classic movie was shot…..coming from the uk for our holiday…can’t wait!…..And to see the cubs too!
She looked far better before the makeover. Pretty sad that the movie made it seem as though her makeover was the ideal.
She looked sultry before her makeover.
Fun Fact:
Like most fans of this film, Ally Sheedy was not a fan of her character's make-over.
@@saltyabcdef3202
I also didn't like the make-over because it took away her mysterious presence that leaves many to the imagination of her beauty, why spoil it?
@@KenMasters.I was pretty much like Allison in high school, and I never saw anything wrong with the makeover, it's superficial (for christ's sake this is a 80's movie) and it was for Allison to have a nice moment and experience something as simple and normal as trying on clothes and makeup with your friends. God knows she hasn't even had it with her mother. Nothing implies that Allison has stopped being herself or that she will stay that way, but she probably felt good about Andy's reaction.
She looked smoking hot before the makeover. Oh well lol
Love this movie
Pink's not really her color.
I’ll never forget about you breakfast club
80s & 90s Movie's Forever
9:54 the soft thank you 😭
I love her goth cure fan look more
My favorite trope ❤
Instead of focusing on the girl’s makeup, let’s focus on the point of the movie.
I've never watched this but now i should
most enjoyable all-time greatest movie ever
9:25 andrew: woah baby.
I wish they would’ve came out with a part 2 a year later. Man, I just wish
Best makeover ever.
This is tribute for John Hughes, who died in 2009 😥
My heroine. ☺️
(Since when is that a bad word?)
I wonder how I got from being like her, to how I am today.
And, how can I be sure I will never go back? 😢
Andy is so cute 🥰 ❤
She was alrwady adorable before the makeover.
I liked the "before" Ally Sheedy. Of course, I just like Ally Sheedy.
They should have done a sequel with this pair where Andy gets the scholarship, but drops out to be with his girl.
that would of been the worst mistake of his life, no women worth that.
@@vincenthammons6705 sigma
No good actors or directors.
.... Thats such a bad idea.
@@Nirobiscloset10 Nor good writers
they are the moment
If you know, then you know. I've seen people choose to be hated, and hunted, instead of being ignored.
That charter makes me uneasy
9:11 I forgot what he was doing in the scene
She's so cute ngl
Wowers
The nerd went home scoring on his physics book
"Beautiful Stephanie"
The 80's 🎉
Old Maine North High School.
Bizarre is considered Saturday school detention
We really need to bring this attitude back. Not enough kids get yelled at these days.
Allison’s makeover is the biggest movie downgrade. Followed only by the Beast in Beauty and the Beast and Anne Hathaway in the Princess Diaries.
disagree with the anne hathway one
I don’t think Anne Hathaway’s makeover was bad considering she’s royalty she had to look the part even though I did like her hair before.
@@106andie Anne Hathaway’s premakeover hair in that movie a friggin glorious. It looked so soft and voluminous.
Breakfast club was the first one to do it
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive it was so beautiful 😍
I love Brian :)
Nice Nike tank top
me and who
me
Ayo, today's the geeks birthday
I was hoping to hear the letter at the end. Need to track it down.
inb4 people associate The Basket Case with Wednesday from the Addams Family.
Years later it comes out: Andrew was the man!
there are no bad kids, only bad parents
Anyone know?
Ally and Emillios fathers acted together in The California Kid. Great flick
Ally Sheedy's father is an advertising executive. I really don't think that's true.
one of the best movies ever
I so wanted to be Allison when I was 13. I started to dress like her lol.
Remember the nerd did all the work and didn’t get a girl
The noise? 8:57
lol what the actual
fun fact. that guy is Charlie sheens brother.