I just installed KMines on Linux. Now I get my dose of 💣 without the 🤑. Go to Hell Micro💩 You're neo-capitalist nightmare fuel Once in Windows 7 you were remotely cool But now you're a taker and a total tool Go to Hell Go to Hell I don't want the 💩 you're trying to sell It's been 4 years in Linux and it's been the best Nothing is perfect but it's passed the test I left the radioactive crater of Micro💩 behind Now I have my penguin peace of mind
I got to a point where I no longer cared about not being able to play many games online. I deleted my windows partition and fully embraced the penguin.
@thetower8553 Linux is actually better than windows for playing games now, you used to have trouble playing some multiplayer games online because the anticheat software was having issues, but with the advent of the steamdeck and steamos that gave developers incentive to fix the issues and things began improving rapidly... Now pretty much every game works on SteamOS, and SteamOS is linux... And you can use Holoiso to install that on your PC. Even Hell let loose works now after recent updates, they fixed the issue with the anticheat and it works now even though it still shows as unsupported in steamdeck verified, valve just haven't gotten around to retesting it update the status.
It's not worse they just don't know how to find the right computer switch to Ryzen IMMEDIATELY they're getting better performance and upgrades Intel is trash.
@@tsoupakis Yes, besides the horrible start menu (that you could easily swap with Classic Shell), 8.1 ran extremely well. In my opinion better than Win7 did, especially when it comes to performance. I was shocked when Win10 came out and saw how it's actually slower than 8.1 on the same hardware
You spelled Vista wrong. Vista looked amazing, had a nicer taskbar and better Aero effects. 7 on the other hand was about as boring as to switch from 95 to 98.
@@maskednil Not just that, many also had machines which weren't made for Vista from the get go. I was lucky, mine was built with Vista in mind so I had a great time with it. Ignoring my Linux fanboy phase at the time of 7, if they had Vista's design language for 7 as they did have the 9x look in XP, I would have enjoyed it much more.
Others have done the same yet gone completely unnoticed. When Microsoft made Windows 11 not work on anything pre-2018, Apple did the same with MacOS and Microsoft got all the flack for it. The west has always had a "Bill gates bad" mindset which leaks into anything he can be associated with (Microsoft, Xbox, etc.) It's why they get treated unfairly for things others already do. For example Sony has made more gaming related acquisitions than Microsoft, Xbox got took to court for it. Apple made MacOS not work on pre-2018 Macs, Windows got flack for it. Microsoft got sued for shipping THEIR Internet Explorer on Windows, Google does the same with Chrome and Apple with Safari but it's fine. The list goes on but you get the idea. If Microsoft need to be sued, so do Google, Apple, and the rest of them. They all do it.
Windows 11 is a really big reason why I switched to linux. Microsoft pushing their services and putting "ai" everywhere is very annoying, not to mention it should be illegal in my opinion, considering how monopolistic it is. I don't plan on using windows for personal use until they back off and make it usable again. I don't see why anyone that isn't a hardcore gamer would use windows 11 over macOS or linux.
I also liked 7 too, and had no problems with 10. I couldn't make the jump to 11 though for hardware issues, so bailed to linux. I downloaded all the cool windows 7 wallpapers though, for nostalgia value!
Bro if windows 7 didn't died, I would have never switch to Linux even though win10 was my first OS on my pc but ive seen that os on my friends pc and it worked absolutely fine(except anti viruses are require). Windows 7 was so good that if it exist now I would not have even explored linux
@@deepajain8347 Windows 7 was the last Microsoft operating system that was fairly unbloated and stable. But it was still spyware, although not to the extent Windows 10 and 11 are right now. Linux should still be preferred if you value your privacy and want to be the owner of your PC and your OS, because when Windows is installed on your PC, Microsoft has more control over it than you.
I'm on Windows 7 right now. Getting kinda forced to downgrade to Windows 10 or 11. Steam stopped working on W7 recently, and many newer versions of various softwares don't work anymore either.
@@joel2734 Sorry I didn't hear you too busy playing games.. but to your bs comment almost everything an adverage users wants is on linux, Spotify, Discord, Steam etc.. hell even Davinci Resovle for the editos.. main thing missing is adobe bs and ms office.. which MS office has great alternatives on Linux and there are niche apps to fill some of the void of adobe.. fact is if you don't depend on Adobe your ok
I agree with the requirement of an account being pushed so hard is frustrating, and the operating system is generaly loosing great features. Its a shame Mac OS also includes some of the negitive points such as the embeded web browser. The telemetry / Increase in data collection that I see as the most intrusive.
You can find yourself a Windows version with an installation already set up to include the option for offline account creation and "English (World)" as a language option that installs Windows without the bloatware. If you use Rufus to make that bootable drive, you can tick a box that automatically creates said offline account for you and skips that entire bit. You can also remove all the telemetry features and then some manually by punching in a couple to a couple hundred lines in the console, removing some systems, changing and adding registries, or with the help of a certain site you may find putting "privacy sexy" in your search box. It's a ton of work to get everything how you want, equal or even greater to getting yourself set up in a Linux environment, but as long as there's a path that will let me not having to think about a lot of things that on Windows simply work then I'll take that path.
I have had nothing but bad experiences with windows in the past couple of years. One thing that I remember being especially bad was that certain versions of onedrive would delete everything on your desktop and in your pictures, documents, and other user folders if you uninstalled it. I tried to report this to microsoft as a bug but they gave me the equivalent of f*** off and removed the report and said it was a "false report".
it seems a lot of companies are pulling shit like this. it's like they all got sick with like some kind of virus all at the same time and the symptoms are increased greed and a lack of care for their customers.
I’m going to say something spicy: Windows Vista wasn’t actually that bad as long as you had stable drivers for it, and Windows 7 (which used the same driver model) was basically just “Windows Vista Second Edition”.
I agree with you. Windows Vista after service pack 1 was quite decent. However, that opinion will make you quite unpopular (speaking form experience 😆).
I've always said that Windows 7 could have been called "Vista Repaired." Vista was mostly OK if you could get all the updates installed without it killing itself. What always got me about it, though, was that you could do the exact same process to get it to update, and sometimes it would work and sometimes it would go belly up. It felt like it had to depend on the winner of a race condition during updates. Even a fully updated install did seem to have network issues when a member of a domain, though. This probably wouldn't be noticed by someone using it at home.
This is true. If it had window snapping it would have been almost as good as 7. Are you listening Apple, Mac OS still hasn’t got this basic feature in 2024.
I bought a brand new PC with Windows Vista pre-installed umpteen years ago. Apart from the graphics card periodically causing the whole system to freeze and inefficiency with multitasking, it was actually a nice OS. I liked the aesthetics of Vista.
The centered task bar is such horrible design! It means none of the buttons' positions are consistent. You _can't_ build muscle memory. The task bar is the 1 thing present at (almost) all times on Windows. It should be given the highest priority on UI design. And it should have the highest level of customization, so that screen space isn't wasted.
Also having the task bar only available on the buttom edge on the screen is such an impact on productivity. Left or top edge ensures the shortest mouse travel distance. Left edge gives you more pixels and better aspect ratio for the app you're using (in maximized window or split window)
With the last Windows update (March 2024), I lost the "Show Desktop" button at the right lower corner of the screen and it was instead replaced by Copilot, I had to search online how to enable the "Show Desktop" button again. 😒
good question. in every possible way. it is not an operating system anymore. very soon it will be subscription based. very soon you will have to pay for using your computer that you bought. PS: i don't think Microsoft will drop OEM keys right away. most probably OEM keys will come with PC at the store. and if you installed Windows from ISO there is will be subscription instead of key activation
This is the reason I have already switched my personal computer to Linux and I am going to "downgrade" my work computer (witch needs to be Windows) from Windows 11 to Windows 10.
@@ghcfuj77557 Doesn't work for everything. If you are dependent on say Adobe CC for production purposes, it doesn't work. Microsoft have been paying Adobe for years for not trying to make software for linux or unix (photoshop actually existed on unix back in the day)
I think your are right. Even though you can remove edge in future (in EU), if you login to microsoft on the store, edge uses this account and if you select dont sync, on the next start edge informs you it started syncing... very wierd...
I ended up copying Minesweeper from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Windows 10 has an option in Windows Product Policies for Windows 7 Minesweeper but it's set to disabled and can't be edited. I found a workaround to make it work.
Windows 11 made me try Linux Fedora and test compatibility with my daily apps. Unfortunately, my most important apps are not available for Linux and also do not run with wine.
@@AverageNerdTalks The next step would be to try out if there are alternative apps for Linux, that would fit my needs, but that takes a really long time to evaluate and a positive outcome is uncertain. But really, Microsoft Windows 11 drives me to actually consider taking this challenge.
@@TulgaD5AlternativeTo is a good place to start looking for that, otherwise you can look at web environments that typically are just picky about your browser.
@@TulgaD5Out of curiosity, what apps do you need? Perhaps people here can recommend you some alternatives to try out. Personally I was using Photoshop back on Windows years ago, but ever since I'm on Linux I use Krita and it's very good.
Malware, Adware, search doesn't just search your computer files only, it also search the Internet which is a fail. Went to Linux Mint and never looked back
The main problem of modern Windows and most of the new software is the lack of customization and options. Almost all the problems you are pointing can be easy solved giving choices to the user instead of forcing it. For example, i actually liked the invisible start button of Windows 8, because it gives more space in the taskbar and i always open the start menu with keyboard. They should give us an option to make visible or hidden instead of forzing the regression. It sucks a lot.
Games were initially included into Windows to make DOS users familiar with mouse: * Minesweeper - moves, left and right clicks * Solitaire - drag and drop Also: Freecell was an Win32[s] testing application. 3D Pinball, I guess, was an DirectX test.
I've used windows since 3.1, got my start in IT work in the Windows 95 era, got an MCSE in the NT 4 days. But when I built my current PC in the end of 2022 I went for Linux. It's been a bit of a bumpy ride, I've broken a couple installs, and some things that would be simple for me in Windows take hours or days to figure out. But I'm not going back to Windows. Even with the frustrations and learning curve, I just feel better knowing that MS doesn't have it's tendrils into my day to day life. I still have to use Windows at work though :(
My history is very similar to yours: Win3.1, IT since Win95/NT with certs, etc. However, I started playing around with Linux off and on since the first versions of Fedora downloaded via a 33.6 Kbps dial-up modem onto 4 floppies. It was so cool! And so frustrating! There wasn’t as much hardware supported or drivers developed yet. As years went by, I would get bored and find myself thinking about Linux again and trying the latest popular distros. Then, I would find myself looking for help in the community forums for terminal commands to get or fix things. That led to finding developers writing scripts to automate the “post-install” apps, codecs and tweaks most people wanted. I started looking at the scripts and understanding more and more about how Linux works. I am now at the point where I know almost as much about Linux as I do Windows. Linux does in seconds or minutes what Windows does in minutes or hours. Don’t get me wrong - I have had a good career because of Windows but feel I have spent a huge amount of my life waiting for Windows to load, update, reboot, fail, uninstall, reinstall, etc. (More so than red traffic lights, waiting rooms, getting water to boil and paint to dry.) Linux simply lets me get things done and doesn’t let me down.
My biggest gripe with the task bar is that it has become slow, unresponsive and buggy, back in Windows 8 I think it was it seems to have changed to run on .NET, no biggie on Windows 8 since it had minimal and uncomplicated function and not even a start menu attached to it, it only had to draw visible windows, taskbar icons and a clock, it worked snappy enough on even really old machines from 2001, the same was not true for Windows 10 and beyond, now Alt+Tab is a much quicker way to switch between windows, and even that feature is slower than it used to be.
From Windows 7 I've always had the taskbar double height and hidden. That means I can have a ton of apps/windows with the full description and it doesn't take up space. It's so annoying that the Win11 taskbar is only single height.
I'm on Linux and everything is so customizable here. I actually use a dock from GNOME but I have it hidden until I hover over that area with my mouse. It's so much better because I have a lot more space on my screen but I can pull out my dock anytime I need it.
Regarding the taskbar: I can see the logic in adding the option to center the taskbar. Imagine a 21:9 aspect ratio display. On something like that, it makes a lot more sense to center the start menu and taskbar icons.
You are so right regarding the taskbar! my biggest problem is they no longer allow custom toolbars. Creating my own toolbar from a folder full of shortcuts was VERY EFFICIENT! One or 2 clicks instantly took me to any folder I wanted. Efficiency is out the window in windows11. Don't even get my started on everything that is worse about File Explorer!
To me the Seven taskbar was a regression. I use 7 Taskbar Tweaks to restore a Windows 2000 taskbar, which mostly works. Window grouping makes it hard to switch between two copies of the same program, and "pinning" creates confusion between an open program and its launch icon, which look quite similar. Windows didn't allow an out of the box option for getting the old taskbar in Seven. Microsoft breaks muscle memory in almost every new version. All those apps are increasing in size. Including simple games. If they were small like back in Windows 2000 era, you could bundle a hundred applications.
Windows 11 got me to finally move my main PC to pop os. It hasn't been a painless transition but I knew what to expect since I run mint on my laptop. I'd say Linux has definitely become more viable as a desktop replacement for Windows in the last few years but I still have a Windows machine for the occasional thing I need Windows for.
My new laptop, first modern one, pricey powerful glorious thing. Fastest device I've ever owned came with Windows 11. I had a wild time navigating its crazy online requirements, forcing me through the removal of other options, to register an account, use its cloud. The whole bit. I fully lost my mind when I realized it had two documents folders, but shortcutted the cloud folder as if it was my local computers storage, meaning every time I tried to download or open an app, I needed to reroute it onto my computer to get around its limiting and useless cloud storage so that I can actually have whole programs properly installed. Microsoft is so desperate to make you use its features. I disconnected from acct, made a local one, deleted the cloud, removed certain programs. Because Microsoft was way too needy and pushy. So so unnecessary
On one of the computers I own, I have to roll back every update of Win10. There is something a bit odd about its hardware and every time they update, they change the display driver or something to something that doesn't work. The "mine sweeper" like game on Linux is really nice. Linux Mint puts the menu in the lower left.
They also removed the ability to cascade all windows of an application. I found that a helpful feature to close a million outlook message windows occasionally. I was actually surprised how much I miss that little feature.
Windows 11 holds the honour of making me switch to Linux. I had been using Microsoft since Dos 3.0 and Windows 3.0, but having not learned from messing with W8, MSFT just made W11 a total s**t show, Add to that all the telemetry, adverts & MS account etc. Microsoft has an Apple envy complex.
I dream about a study that never (ever) comes : how much billions of dollars worldwide does it cost to people/companies to force all users, techs, admins, etc to be obliged to adjust to a new brew of window$, as its "standard" is to move each and every bit of setup away from its former place in each new version ? I use XFCE4 for +11 years now, it has improved and there are some (bad) things one could say about the place where some setups items dwells, but they never changed place, so once accustomed it stays ok for a looong time among all versions. _"Micro$oft has an Apple envy complex."_ - It is far worse than that because In Fine m$ wants you to pay a monthly fee to use *_their_* (not yours) O$, they said that publicly a while ago but people do not seem to have a good memory.
soon you may need to pay a subscription to be able to use the esc. key. I seem to have trouble finding files that I Have just saved, when i go out of that folder and come back again the file is there - do I need a subscription for this also? can I choose when to allow updates to download or as a user I just don't matter?
If you have a pro version of Win11 (or 10 in that case), you can use the local group policy editor to set auto updates to old behaviour like "download but only notify instead of install" etc. Doesn't work with home editions though.
Data collection is in the Microsoft Windows licensing agreement they disclose it to the user. The fact is that most people don’t read it and just click “agree”
I ditched windows after 10 had the cheek to autorun a "fitness test" and twll me my computer wasn't good enough to run win 11. Firstly, I never asked! Secondly, I'm still running hitman 3 on ultra settings and hitting 60fps, my computer is fine! I'm now happy in Linux. I'd forgotten how nice having control over your workstation feels!
@@AverageNerdTalks nice! I run debian, but am thinking of jumping ship to endeavor. I want these fancy DE updates everyone else has! Looking at the comments here perhaps this year really will be the year of linux!
@paultapping9510 Linux is cool and all but I have been exposed to the "WINDOWS SUX!!!!1111" Rhetoric for 10+ years at this point and despite multiple fuck ups, missteps, and major bluffs from MS the year of Linux never comes. It will take MS making windows a subscription before Linux market share increases. Plus if Linux gets popular I have no doubt it will become corporate and greedy the same way Windows has.
I use NTLite and StartAllBack to make my user experience with windows 11 about a one million times better. It just sucks that I have to run a script every time Windows updates just to debloat it again.
You can set up windows (or so I hear...) without creating an account. I don't care. I ditched windows 2 years ago for Linux Mint.....on 5 computers. And am rather happy with it.
If you use Rufus to write the Win11 ISO to a USB stick, it'll install without an MS account. It's what I install on machines that need windows these days. Otherwise I use Linux.
the worst part of windows 11 is that half of the things that were easy to do, now require more steps. oh, and the settings, metro UI apps, task manager and layout is absolute crap
I think the worst part of Windows 11 is that it is essentially spyware. It steps over your privacy and Microsoft owns your PC more than you do when you use Windows. I'm so happy I switched to Linux so long ago that I didn't even have to bother with Windows 11 and I don't intend to ever try it.
@@STONE69_ That's the sole problem with this "free"-folks, never realize that someone has to pay for stuffs. Maybe they still live in mom's basement and need no money, the rest of us need to eat and feed their hungry family. Same with "free energy". Who builds power-plants and needed infrastructure for free?
Minesweeper made its first appearance as part of the operating system in Windows 3.11. It was also made available for purchase for Windows 3.1 as part of _Windows Entertainment Pack._ You can acquire the executable from an older version of Windows and run it on a supported version (as long as it's a 32 bit version, so not the Windows 3.x version). You can also get an old version of _Write_ from Windows 3.1 which has some features missing from _Wordpad_ (this works only with 32 bit versions of Windows because they dropped support for 16 bit Windows applications in 64 bit Windows; so it works with most Windows installs earlier than 7, and a number of Win 7 installations as well). Of course there are several more capable free word processors now, but it was worth doing in the Windows 98 days.
We use the Windows 11 Enterprise version at work, I am the IT guy there and every time I install Windows LinkedIn, Spotify and many other pieces of software are there that have no business being in an Enterprise environment. I love Linux personally and think there is so much potential in Linux!! When will Microsoft learn their lesson sue them again!! Great video by the way!!
If ms copies my files, for example as a backup in one drive, then ms violates copyrights law. If ms collects my personal data then it violates GDPR law in EU.
Unfortunately not. When you install Windows, you accept the EULA. You give Microsoft permission to do these things by accepting that EULA and using your Windows installation. If I tell you that you can come into my house, but only if you agree that I get to take your phone and read your messages, and then you walk into my house and hand me your phone, you don’t get to then complain that I’m breaking the law; you should’ve stayed outside.
The problem really started taking off when windows 10 was given as a free upgrade. Normally if you wanted to upgrade from xp to 7 that cost 99$ and 7 was the last popular windows version to not have all this telemetry and micro transaction crap built in. With 10 microsoft probably realized they can turn each windows user into a cash flow either through subscriptions to their services which are aggressively pushed at the user. I would gladly pay the 99$ to upgrade just to have a version of windows that has none of the advertising and telemetry built in. Currently windows has adopted a freemium model without the option to pay to make the annoying crap go away.
People should start to use Linux even with all problems it has it is better than Windows in most areas. If people could do that it would force developers to start develop more for multi platform.
Linux has a minesweeper game called KMines. Playing it now. It's better. It costs nada zero nil dollars. Four years in Linux. I wouldn't go back to Micro💩 if four Micro💩 undercover agents tied me to a post and threatened to chop my boinger off.
I totally agree with all you said in this video, Microsoft seems to have become so greedy and childish. Edge icon being put on my desktop everytime updates occurred was the last straw for me (silly but annoying). Use Linux Mint now, found good applications after a bit of searching so now i'm a happy Linux user 🙂
I now only have windows boxes for gaming. Most of my games: Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, Dual Universe, Starfield don’t run and can’t be made to run on Linux. If game companies and graphics drivers broke their addiction to windows we could have nice things.
You know at the end of the day, I will still use Windows, because that's what I know and like. I have no issues with it except for some few quirks here and there, but I will always use it as my daily driver. However, I do plan to use my other rigs to install a much more complex Linux system to run as I now believe that we should not be stuck with one OS but have multiple OS's running at the same time.
So true, at all points mentioned. One more point , in my opinion, they keep on stacking stuff on top, instead of rebuilding fresh os from the ground up, they just add more layers on top. Like i get error messages in win 11 with windows 10 box, windows 7 error logo, and windows 95 “ok” button 😂its a joke
I think using Windows in the first place must be the worst decision ever. Mac or Linux are far better, but they are not as rich in applications as Windows is, however quality always comes first. Linux Mint is far superiour - it is in general simple to use if you use it for some basic stuff, the desktop design is one if not the best design for the OS, it doesn't consume much of your hardware, and it doesn't need any antivirus to keep you well-secured. Even Mac, despite being expensive, is a more efficient choice - like Linux, you are protected from many viruses and hardware at most is not your major concern.
The only Windows, I still use a few times per week, is Windows XP Home to play the wma copies of my CDs and LPs with WoW and TrueBass effects. I installed and activated that VBox VM in March 2010 and it survived 2 VBox Owners; 3 desktops and 4 CPUs :)
I keep a windows VM for video games which have significant fps losses under Linux. Other than that, I'm getting by with Linux. The biggest gripe I have thus far, is the lack of simple virtual sound card tools and a tool which removes background noise. Now I'm no stranger to code, github and the lot, but if an OS is to be a daily driver, it'll have to do better than that in order for the average Joe to use it over the strategically easier to handle Windows.
My dad finally had enough of Windows, and trusted me to get him a new laptop. I got him a 2-in-1 convertible laptop with touchscreen, and installed Debian 12 GNOME on it. He’s so happy, and his biggest complaint so far is a single complaint about GNOME Calculator’s icon choice for C/CE. That’s it :D
windows UI elements are a mess. It's not cohesive, there's so much old UI element on Windows 11. A lot of option from control panel haven't ported to the setting app yet.
At least your base point for a good Windows is Windows 7 and not like the majority who say that Windows 10 is wonderful, when it is the same crap as Windows 11: -both are horribly slow unless you use NVMe SSDs. - both are full of telemetry. Those who complain about telemetry in Windows 11 but use Windows 10, is everything okay at home? - both full of bloatware. - both send you popups so you can use OneDrive, I have an Intel Haswell with Windows 10 and popups appear from time to time in different places asking me to log in with a Microsoft account so as not to miss "the wonders" of one drive -both ask for a Microsoft account at the time of installation. A week ago I did a clean reinstall on my Windows 10 22H2 Haswell and when the OBEE came out, the first thing it did was ask me for Microsoft account and the only way to bypass it was by disconnecting the internet cable. In Windows 11 you skip it by setting up a fake Outlook account and that's it.
You forgot one very important point : "if there is a file that causes crashes or other problem, we can download it to study it" [SIC] - this was finally said in a public meeting after a reporter who is also a researcher asked m$ 3 times in a row… the theme was : why and what does window$ send home with all that traffic ? Imagine where it can lead if you are a foreign company developing a revolutionary software/hardware - people do not remember one thing, nsa is before all an industrial intelligence agency, and it is sleeping with m$ from the time of window$ 3.11…
Microsoft is a subscription company now, explains why they want you to use everything by them. Data collection, targeted advertising, or if you don't like it pay a recurring fee. Can't wait for Windows 12 that requires a yearly subscription.
scared about privacy, but using smartphones... Linux is handling privacy better, meaning nobody dares to talk about the same problems it has. Just listen what is happening on your ports when connected to internet. Less virus and such ? Who cares to attack 3% of workstations when one can attack 90% ? More Linux == more attacks Not possible because 'open source'? Who reads/understands the code from github before compile and run ? Make a better desktop, don't copy windows. Make better applications, don't copy the "bad" company stuff. And all this should be "free", how this should work when coders need to feed their families ? This things are not things like crappy smartphone-apps for 0.99 nobody needs.
I can’t use windows 11 without using Start11 by stardock. I just yell the whole time. It’s so stupidly designed. I work in construction and it reminds me of most of the buildings I work on. Has the architect never actually been inside a building before?
"Windows 11, taking away features" should be the tag line for the OS, I just can't do some things in Windows 11 I could in Windows 10, and it's frustrating. Even Blue Tooth doesn't work properly now, that crap worked almost flawless in 10, how do you mess that up so badly? I tried 3 different BT dongles, 2 speakers and 2 controllers, nothing plays well together now, I have to juggle dongles and devices for things to work. They also recently removed Android apps from Windows 11, wtf? That was a big selling point of Win 11.
Compared to my Linux desktop I think BT is very cumbersome to use even on Win10. On Win7 it actually was a bit easier than on Win10/11. For instance, if I want to send a file from a mobile phone to the Windows machine, then I first have to start some special BT receiver app on the winbox, then wait for the phone to connect, and finally accept the transfer. A lot of clicks! On Linux I only do the last step, which is even configurable. It is similar if I want to send in the opposite direction; can't just right-click and choose "send/share via bluetooth" like I do on Linux and Android ... well, maybe there's another subscription service for that 😉 Afterwards I also need to solve the puzzle of where the received files actually got stored, and then move them to where I want them. (I have left out the steps of turning on/off the BT radio itself, which is somewhat similar on all platforms.) Yeah, I know. They probably expect us to use the cloud for such things nowadays. Let's not start me up on the topic of mobile data costs and cloud privacy...
For me, the best OS is Windows 7 I never had anything go wrong on it but ever since windows 10 and 11 came out it’s absolutely terrible. I tried linux but none of my apps work even the apps that is made for it. I hope someone out there makes a new OS for everyone. An os where we can choose how it run and what we are using it for. Not all this ai integrated BS that watching you 24/7
Only 5...but these are the big ones I usually see when people start talking about how bad Windows had gotten and Windows 11 in particular. To your question about bundling Edge with Windows and making it so that you can't easily uninstall it (at least not without hacking it out which some have succeeded in doing), and needing another antitrust lawsuit to stop it, there are some important things to keep in mind but the TL:DR is that no such antitrust case would work in the US just for their actions around the browser: (numbered just to organize them, but take them in any order you want) 1. Edge hasn't even gotten above 6% in world wide usage on statcounter (it's barely above 5% now). Other sites that track browser usage shows a similar picture. Edge hasn't even beaten Safari and Safari is only available on Apple devices right now. More people use Macs and iPhones that those that use Edge. In terms of browser share, Microsoft isn't even in the running to take control away from the current monopoly on browsers that Google has with Chrome (sitting at about 65%, it's at a high enough number to be considered to have monopolistic influence over the browser market). 2. In the IE antitrust case, Microsoft was officially declared a monopoly that was abusing its power over the market with what they did with IE. At the time, IE's usage was over 90% and IE was basically setting the web standards for all web developers to follow for their site to work for most people (much like how people have to follow what Chrome wants today, but with more ironclad grip on the market). Microsoft ultimately dodged getting broken up, but the damage was done. IE became so infamous (partly from the case, partly for the many technical reasons that irked the tech community) that the only reason why Edge is even called Edge was to try and separate it from IE's legacy...not that it has helped Edge win people over. Tech people won't use Edge on principal (previous antitrust case, previous legacy with IE, Microsoft's current actions, etc.), and the average users won't use Edge because their tech friends that they rely on tell them not to. For an antitrust case against Microsoft for pushing Edge, Microsoft would not be considered a monopoly abusing its power given that it's NOT holding control over the browser market anymore (other things, YES, they are a monopoly, but not for browsers). Plus, they can say, "go to Mac if you don't like it, they have Safari by default". There's no way for an antitrust case would work for Microsoft pushing its browser on to people in the US when Microsoft is not the dominant player in browser usage. 3. Given how important the browser is to what people use their computer for with more tasks being done in a browser instead on a traditional standalone software application, it's safe say that the browser is the most important application on the computer today. However, as you already stated, there are other problems that, while legal, make things bad for users in Windows. Some of which may even be bigger issues to some people (especially regulators) than Microsoft's desperate attempts at trying to get people to use their browser. 4. Once again it'll be the EU that makes any progress so at least Europe will have a better time of it. Back when XP was used everywhere, European regulators made Microsoft release editions of Windows XP that let users pick a browser rather than forcing IE onto them. It's highly likely this will come back in some form (if it hasn't already) if they feel that Microsoft is getting too pushy with Edge and other software/services. Microsoft is capable of releasing customized versions of Windows to certain regions in the world and still make money. They've done it in the past, and they'll do it again. It will be the US and other countries that won't take on big tech in a meaningful way (for "reasons") that'll suffer the most.
It's not solely the problem of Microsoft only, most of the big tech these days are doing the same. Mac and ios always pushes for an apple account and Android always pushes for a Google account. I think what ms is doing the done already by other big tech
I use my laptop for both personal and working with clients, so having Microsoft office and login in with the Microsoft account they give me is necessary. I wish there was a solution to this other than dual boot.
I moved away from Windows years ago to linux, the only time I install windows every 8 month when needed to update some drivers still depending on windows then nuke it few days after from my 2nd hard drive. As Microsoft made it worst each time it won't change until thry lose out market share.
@@AverageNerdTalksI did try that, it ran so slow after sometime even was not even on the 2.0 usb speed, was not usable anymore so I didn't do that again.
@@ZaberfangX Ah, my apologies for not being clear: I meant you buy an internal SSD connect it inside your computer to the SATA port. Of course if you're on a laptop then this won't work. USB will be very slow, yes....
13:00 It's not conspiracy theory all they need is some form of ID, account, being singned in to some chrome or windows id, apple id to identify activity for example in your browser, since for example Google AdSense is ran on every webslite, basically Google can connect ID to this activity to you no matter what you do on what website on what device, you write something on X moment later you see this on F, then on Y so on, If they can collect data about people then can do politics know trends how to fool people how to push certain idea, how to manipulate not just ads, power of cookies!
I've been running Linux at home for the past 10 years and have never been more satisfied. When I occasionally use a Windows OS, I find myself constantly cursing.
Been a windows user since Windows 95 but these days my Windows desktop sits mostly idle unless I want to play a game. My work/productivity computers are running MacOs or Linux these days. Was pretty happy with Windows 7. All been downhill since then.
I hate Windows. One time I moved over to Linux Mint for about half a year out of frustration, but some things I rely on daily didn't work and in the end I ended up back on Windows 10. The next time I get fed up, I'll probably install Proxmox with Windows and Linux Mint VMs. Until then I'm starting to selfhost all the things, so that once I move for real, I just need to connect my OS to all my services so that the transition between operating systems will hopefully be relatively seamless. I'm starting to think that Browsers are becoming the new operating systems anyways with more and more things just using a WebUI instead of having things running at the OS layer. That step is actually really nice for cross-compatibility imo.
You could try dual boot. I keep a Windows 10 installation around on a separate drive in case I need it. Haven't had to use it in a couple years but it's there if needed.
@@AverageNerdTalks That is what I did originally. But I had to boot into windows daily, so it got pretty annoying to reboot all the time and there were no things I needed to do daily which I couldn't do on windows.
@@Alice_Fumo And also the latest Window versions seem to mess with the boot partion/setup every time they boot. Earlier versions only messed up when you installed them, not on every boot.
"Kinda"? "Now"? In all seriousness, though: Windows seems to be moving to a subscription service for the OS, and that shouldn't be acceptable to anyone.
Isn't windows becoming a subscription a good thing? People who Won't stand for it/don't have the money will use Linux instead, meaning greater software compatibility over there, and MS will lose market share, public opinion and most importantly, money. With the way they're going I expect it to happen any time now tbh
@@64bitmodels66Maybe, but don't underestimate people just saying, "Ah, screw it" and going with the subscription because they're locked in to the MS ecosystem.
Requiring a subscription to play Minesweeper is literally everything wrong with modern civilization
Word
I just installed KMines on Linux. Now I get my dose of 💣 without the 🤑.
Go to Hell Micro💩
You're neo-capitalist nightmare fuel
Once in Windows 7 you were remotely cool
But now you're a taker and a total tool
Go to Hell
Go to Hell
I don't want the 💩 you're trying to sell
It's been 4 years in Linux and it's been the best
Nothing is perfect but it's passed the test
I left the radioactive crater of Micro💩 behind
Now I have my penguin peace of mind
Google “Mindsweeper” and it gives you a simple Google version of Minesweeper. Not quite the same features, but close enough.
@@AverageNerdTalksYes. Including Microsoft Word and the whole suite. Lolz.
I got to a point where I no longer cared about not being able to play many games online. I deleted my windows partition and fully embraced the penguin.
Which is your favourite penguin.
I did this too. It's so much better to pick your own apps, not to be forced to download anything or use any service.
I don't have a favorite but I'm currently using Arch on my desktop. I will be getting a laptop where I'll try a different distro.
@thetower8553 Linux is actually better than windows for playing games now, you used to have trouble playing some multiplayer games online because the anticheat software was having issues, but with the advent of the steamdeck and steamos that gave developers incentive to fix the issues and things began improving rapidly... Now pretty much every game works on SteamOS, and SteamOS is linux... And you can use Holoiso to install that on your PC.
Even Hell let loose works now after recent updates, they fixed the issue with the anticheat and it works now even though it still shows as unsupported in steamdeck verified, valve just haven't gotten around to retesting it update the status.
Embrace the Penguin!
Sounds like a great t-shirt
Saying "kinda gotten worse" is unfair, it is actually "very much" to be precise.
It's not worse they just don't know how to find the right computer switch to Ryzen IMMEDIATELY they're getting better performance and upgrades Intel is trash.
"windows sucks now"????
my guy it's been complete dogwater since windows 8 At Least
Unpopular opinion, 8.1 was the last stable & os..
@tsoupakis actually popular, windows 8 flopped
It was right as win 8 was coming out that I got a different OS.
@@tsoupakis
Yes, besides the horrible start menu (that you could easily swap with Classic Shell), 8.1 ran extremely well. In my opinion better than Win7 did, especially when it comes to performance.
I was shocked when Win10 came out and saw how it's actually slower than 8.1 on the same hardware
@@electroman1996 thank you! the 8.1 had fixed the full menu start menu idea and the whole OS was so better than before & after.
they made windows look boring, windows 7 was a thing of beauty and still is, stuff just felt nice.
I miss that look so much
You spelled Vista wrong.
Vista looked amazing, had a nicer taskbar and better Aero effects.
7 on the other hand was about as boring as to switch from 95 to 98.
@@MegaManNeo Vista was a shtshow, windows 7 was vista with most of the worst bugs fixed. And no, thje tinted glass look of vista was awful.
@@MegaManNeoExactly. Vista's Aero was superior than 7's. And those complaining about Vista obviously didn't use the service pack updates.
@@maskednil Not just that, many also had machines which weren't made for Vista from the get go.
I was lucky, mine was built with Vista in mind so I had a great time with it.
Ignoring my Linux fanboy phase at the time of 7, if they had Vista's design language for 7 as they did have the 9x look in XP, I would have enjoyed it much more.
Whoever decided to downgrade features from every new windows needs to fired and locked up.
Why do they keep removing features one after another?
Microsoft needs multiple lawsuits with the crap they've been doing lately
They are supported by government agencies.
Others have done the same yet gone completely unnoticed.
When Microsoft made Windows 11 not work on anything pre-2018, Apple did the same with MacOS and Microsoft got all the flack for it. The west has always had a "Bill gates bad" mindset which leaks into anything he can be associated with (Microsoft, Xbox, etc.) It's why they get treated unfairly for things others already do. For example
Sony has made more gaming related acquisitions than Microsoft, Xbox got took to court for it.
Apple made MacOS not work on pre-2018 Macs, Windows got flack for it.
Microsoft got sued for shipping THEIR Internet Explorer on Windows, Google does the same with Chrome and Apple with Safari but it's fine.
The list goes on but you get the idea. If Microsoft need to be sued, so do Google, Apple, and the rest of them. They all do it.
@@frenchfryinyourmcdonaldsba8688 it's almost as if there are part of the government
@@goosebuffz oh you bet!
Could say that about any major corp
Windows 11 is a really big reason why I switched to linux. Microsoft pushing their services and putting "ai" everywhere is very annoying, not to mention it should be illegal in my opinion, considering how monopolistic it is. I don't plan on using windows for personal use until they back off and make it usable again. I don't see why anyone that isn't a hardcore gamer would use windows 11 over macOS or linux.
Indeed! Gaming has come a long way on Linux. I've been using Fedora for quite a while now.
Still there is no gaming on mac. But it's fine because macs are not sold for gaming either.
Buy a console and just call it a day I guess for games.
@@3_smh_3switching to a device that you have even less control over isn't much better to be honest.
Macos is worse than windows.
Who would have thought that we would ever mourn the days when Steve Ballmer was CEO of Microsoft?
Ballmer was framed. He actually tried to make Windows Phone succeed.
Does it? I've been using Linux for years now. Windows 7 was amazing.
I also liked 7 too, and had no problems with 10. I couldn't make the jump to 11 though for hardware issues, so bailed to linux. I downloaded all the cool windows 7 wallpapers though, for nostalgia value!
Bro if windows 7 didn't died, I would have never switch to Linux even though win10 was my first OS on my pc but ive seen that os on my friends pc and it worked absolutely fine(except anti viruses are require). Windows 7 was so good that if it exist now I would not have even explored linux
Windows 7 was the best Windows ever.
@@deepajain8347 Windows 7 was the last Microsoft operating system that was fairly unbloated and stable. But it was still spyware, although not to the extent Windows 10 and 11 are right now. Linux should still be preferred if you value your privacy and want to be the owner of your PC and your OS, because when Windows is installed on your PC, Microsoft has more control over it than you.
I'm on Windows 7 right now. Getting kinda forced to downgrade to Windows 10 or 11. Steam stopped working on W7 recently, and many newer versions of various softwares don't work anymore either.
meanwhile Linux gets better everyday
And it still has no app support
@@joel2734 Sorry I didn't hear you too busy playing games.. but to your bs comment almost everything an adverage users wants is on linux, Spotify, Discord, Steam etc.. hell even Davinci Resovle for the editos.. main thing missing is adobe bs and ms office.. which MS office has great alternatives on Linux and there are niche apps to fill some of the void of adobe.. fact is if you don't depend on Adobe your ok
@@joel2734 Has plenty of app support.. maybe not the apps you use but for 99% of folks Linux is enough.
@@joel2734 every apps has alternatives in linux unles you are a gamer
In my opinion BSD is better although not many people know or care about it
I agree with the requirement of an account being pushed so hard is frustrating, and the operating system is generaly loosing great features. Its a shame Mac OS also includes some of the negitive points such as the embeded web browser. The telemetry / Increase in data collection that I see as the most intrusive.
Have you considered LInux?
You can find yourself a Windows version with an installation already set up to include the option for offline account creation and "English (World)" as a language option that installs Windows without the bloatware. If you use Rufus to make that bootable drive, you can tick a box that automatically creates said offline account for you and skips that entire bit.
You can also remove all the telemetry features and then some manually by punching in a couple to a couple hundred lines in the console, removing some systems, changing and adding registries, or with the help of a certain site you may find putting "privacy sexy" in your search box. It's a ton of work to get everything how you want, equal or even greater to getting yourself set up in a Linux environment, but as long as there's a path that will let me not having to think about a lot of things that on Windows simply work then I'll take that path.
This I find very annoying too.
When will Linux get its font rendering as good as windows, for me it’s a desktop is showstopper.
I have had nothing but bad experiences with windows in the past couple of years. One thing that I remember being especially bad was that certain versions of onedrive would delete everything on your desktop and in your pictures, documents, and other user folders if you uninstalled it. I tried to report this to microsoft as a bug but they gave me the equivalent of f*** off and removed the report and said it was a "false report".
I have read some reports about this as well.
it seems a lot of companies are pulling shit like this.
it's like they all got sick with like some kind of virus all at the same time and the symptoms are increased greed and a lack of care for their customers.
I’m going to say something spicy: Windows Vista wasn’t actually that bad as long as you had stable drivers for it, and Windows 7 (which used the same driver model) was basically just “Windows Vista Second Edition”.
I agree with you. Windows Vista after service pack 1 was quite decent. However, that opinion will make you quite unpopular (speaking form experience 😆).
I was thinking that too. It looked cool.
I've always said that Windows 7 could have been called "Vista Repaired." Vista was mostly OK if you could get all the updates installed without it killing itself. What always got me about it, though, was that you could do the exact same process to get it to update, and sometimes it would work and sometimes it would go belly up. It felt like it had to depend on the winner of a race condition during updates. Even a fully updated install did seem to have network issues when a member of a domain, though. This probably wouldn't be noticed by someone using it at home.
This is true. If it had window snapping it would have been almost as good as 7.
Are you listening Apple, Mac OS still hasn’t got this basic feature in 2024.
I bought a brand new PC with Windows Vista pre-installed umpteen years ago. Apart from the graphics card periodically causing the whole system to freeze and inefficiency with multitasking, it was actually a nice OS. I liked the aesthetics of Vista.
The centered task bar is such horrible design! It means none of the buttons' positions are consistent. You _can't_ build muscle memory.
The task bar is the 1 thing present at (almost) all times on Windows. It should be given the highest priority on UI design. And it should have the highest level of customization, so that screen space isn't wasted.
The worst part in Win 11 is the telemetry. The taskbar now is usable.
Usable is a bare minimum. It should at least be on par with its previous iteration (Windows 10) which it isn't.
Also having the task bar only available on the buttom edge on the screen is such an impact on productivity. Left or top edge ensures the shortest mouse travel distance. Left edge gives you more pixels and better aspect ratio for the app you're using (in maximized window or split window)
@AverageNerdTalks more like windows 7
With the last Windows update (March 2024), I lost the "Show Desktop" button at the right lower corner of the screen and it was instead replaced by Copilot, I had to search online how to enable the "Show Desktop" button again. 😒
The taskbar on 10 is fine as long as you use Open Shell, but who doesn't?
I am salty for Solitaire being replaced by awful stuff with flashy animations. Just give us WinXP style again. Teletubbies god mode enabled.
I have a Debian VM that I exclusively use to play solitaire at home. It literally serves no other purpose for me.
good question. in every possible way.
it is not an operating system anymore.
very soon it will be subscription based. very soon you will have to pay for using your computer that you bought.
PS: i don't think Microsoft will drop OEM keys right away. most probably OEM keys will come with PC at the store. and if you installed Windows from ISO there is will be subscription instead of key activation
Meanwhile, Software Manager on Linux Mint offers 6 different Minesweeper games...free...no ads (I assume).
Fax
No ads(I assume)
LMAO!!!!!!
THAT continues to be the main thing that pushed me to Linux 5 years ago.
This is the reason I have already switched my personal computer to Linux and I am going to "downgrade" my work computer (witch needs to be Windows) from Windows 11 to Windows 10.
Wine?
Bottles ? @@ghcfuj77557
@@ghcfuj77557 Doesn't work for everything. If you are dependent on say Adobe CC for production purposes, it doesn't work. Microsoft have been paying Adobe for years for not trying to make software for linux or unix (photoshop actually existed on unix back in the day)
Windows 10 ends support next year tho, no? So you’re going to be opening yourself up to security problems.
@@graxxoryes I know all about that.
I think your are right. Even though you can remove edge in future (in EU), if you login to microsoft on the store, edge uses this account and if you select dont sync, on the next start edge informs you it started syncing... very wierd...
I ended up copying Minesweeper from Windows 7 to Windows 10. Windows 10 has an option in Windows Product Policies for Windows 7 Minesweeper but it's set to disabled and can't be edited. I found a workaround to make it work.
Windows 11 made me try Linux Fedora and test compatibility with my daily apps. Unfortunately, my most important apps are not available for Linux and also do not run with wine.
This is indeed a sad reality... Hopefully we can convince devs to support Linux with wider adoption :)
@@AverageNerdTalks The next step would be to try out if there are alternative apps for Linux, that would fit my needs, but that takes a really long time to evaluate and a positive outcome is uncertain. But really, Microsoft Windows 11 drives me to actually consider taking this challenge.
@@TulgaD5 Stay tuned for my next video. It might help you a little 😉
@@TulgaD5AlternativeTo is a good place to start looking for that, otherwise you can look at web environments that typically are just picky about your browser.
@@TulgaD5Out of curiosity, what apps do you need? Perhaps people here can recommend you some alternatives to try out. Personally I was using Photoshop back on Windows years ago, but ever since I'm on Linux I use Krita and it's very good.
Malware, Adware, search doesn't just search your computer files only, it also search the Internet which is a fail. Went to Linux Mint and never looked back
The main problem of modern Windows and most of the new software is the lack of customization and options. Almost all the problems you are pointing can be easy solved giving choices to the user instead of forcing it. For example, i actually liked the invisible start button of Windows 8, because it gives more space in the taskbar and i always open the start menu with keyboard. They should give us an option to make visible or hidden instead of forzing the regression. It sucks a lot.
Games were initially included into Windows to make DOS users familiar with mouse:
* Minesweeper - moves, left and right clicks
* Solitaire - drag and drop
Also:
Freecell was an Win32[s] testing application.
3D Pinball, I guess, was an DirectX test.
I've used windows since 3.1, got my start in IT work in the Windows 95 era, got an MCSE in the NT 4 days. But when I built my current PC in the end of 2022 I went for Linux. It's been a bit of a bumpy ride, I've broken a couple installs, and some things that would be simple for me in Windows take hours or days to figure out. But I'm not going back to Windows. Even with the frustrations and learning curve, I just feel better knowing that MS doesn't have it's tendrils into my day to day life. I still have to use Windows at work though :(
My history is very similar to yours:
Win3.1, IT since Win95/NT with certs, etc. However, I started playing around with Linux off and on since the first versions of Fedora downloaded via a 33.6 Kbps dial-up modem onto 4 floppies. It was so cool! And so frustrating! There wasn’t as much hardware supported or drivers developed yet. As years went by, I would get bored and find myself thinking about Linux again and trying the latest popular distros. Then, I would find myself looking for help in the community forums for terminal commands to get or fix things. That led to finding developers writing scripts to automate the “post-install” apps, codecs and tweaks most people wanted. I started looking at the scripts and understanding more and more about how Linux works. I am now at the point where I know almost as much about Linux as I do Windows. Linux does in seconds or minutes what Windows does in minutes or hours. Don’t get me wrong - I have had a good career because of Windows but feel I have spent a huge amount of my life waiting for Windows to load, update, reboot, fail, uninstall, reinstall, etc. (More so than red traffic lights, waiting rooms, getting water to boil and paint to dry.)
Linux simply lets me get things done and doesn’t let me down.
Windows 10's end of support will be my deadline to move to Linux fully.
My biggest gripe with the task bar is that it has become slow, unresponsive and buggy, back in Windows 8 I think it was it seems to have changed to run on .NET, no biggie on Windows 8 since it had minimal and uncomplicated function and not even a start menu attached to it, it only had to draw visible windows, taskbar icons and a clock, it worked snappy enough on even really old machines from 2001, the same was not true for Windows 10 and beyond, now Alt+Tab is a much quicker way to switch between windows, and even that feature is slower than it used to be.
From Windows 7 I've always had the taskbar double height and hidden. That means I can have a ton of apps/windows with the full description and it doesn't take up space. It's so annoying that the Win11 taskbar is only single height.
I'm on Linux and everything is so customizable here. I actually use a dock from GNOME but I have it hidden until I hover over that area with my mouse. It's so much better because I have a lot more space on my screen but I can pull out my dock anytime I need it.
Can't you move icons on the taskbar to the left side?
I think it’s time for the Linux revolution.
If I took a shot for every time I'd heard that, the donor kidneys would have kidney failure pre-applied.
@@BestGirlsBiggestFan I just fully switched today. There's truly a distro for everybody.
You left off the fact many systems are shipped out with Bitlocker turned on by default & it never explicitly explains to the user what that means.
Agreed! Thanks for pointing it out. This is 100% a problem!
Regarding the taskbar: I can see the logic in adding the option to center the taskbar. Imagine a 21:9 aspect ratio display. On something like that, it makes a lot more sense to center the start menu and taskbar icons.
You are so right regarding the taskbar! my biggest problem is they no longer allow custom toolbars. Creating my own toolbar from a folder full of shortcuts was VERY EFFICIENT! One or 2 clicks instantly took me to any folder I wanted. Efficiency is out the window in windows11. Don't even get my started on everything that is worse about File Explorer!
To me the Seven taskbar was a regression. I use 7 Taskbar Tweaks to restore a Windows 2000 taskbar, which mostly works. Window grouping makes it hard to switch between two copies of the same program, and "pinning" creates confusion between an open program and its launch icon, which look quite similar. Windows didn't allow an out of the box option for getting the old taskbar in Seven.
Microsoft breaks muscle memory in almost every new version.
All those apps are increasing in size. Including simple games. If they were small like back in Windows 2000 era, you could bundle a hundred applications.
Windows 11 got me to finally move my main PC to pop os. It hasn't been a painless transition but I knew what to expect since I run mint on my laptop. I'd say Linux has definitely become more viable as a desktop replacement for Windows in the last few years but I still have a Windows machine for the occasional thing I need Windows for.
My new laptop, first modern one, pricey powerful glorious thing. Fastest device I've ever owned came with Windows 11.
I had a wild time navigating its crazy online requirements, forcing me through the removal of other options, to register an account, use its cloud. The whole bit.
I fully lost my mind when I realized it had two documents folders, but shortcutted the cloud folder as if it was my local computers storage, meaning every time I tried to download or open an app, I needed to reroute it onto my computer to get around its limiting and useless cloud storage so that I can actually have whole programs properly installed.
Microsoft is so desperate to make you use its features. I disconnected from acct, made a local one, deleted the cloud, removed certain programs. Because Microsoft was way too needy and pushy. So so unnecessary
This was my experience with a new laptop a few years ago as well. Nuking Windows and installing a Linux distro was faster for me.
On one of the computers I own, I have to roll back every update of Win10. There is something a bit odd about its hardware and every time they update, they change the display driver or something to something that doesn't work.
The "mine sweeper" like game on Linux is really nice.
Linux Mint puts the menu in the lower left.
The best feature of this video was the special guest Kiwi.
They also removed the ability to cascade all windows of an application. I found that a helpful feature to close a million outlook message windows occasionally. I was actually surprised how much I miss that little feature.
Just did the switch today, watching this from Linux Mint XFCE :)
Windows 11 holds the honour of making me switch to Linux. I had been using Microsoft since Dos 3.0 and Windows 3.0, but having not learned from messing with W8, MSFT just made W11 a total s**t show, Add to that all the telemetry, adverts & MS account etc. Microsoft has an Apple envy complex.
For my personal computer, I switched after Win-98. I am glad I did.
I dream about a study that never (ever) comes : how much billions of dollars worldwide does it cost to people/companies to force all users, techs, admins, etc to be obliged to adjust to a new brew of window$, as its "standard" is to move each and every bit of setup away from its former place in each new version ?
I use XFCE4 for +11 years now, it has improved and there are some (bad) things one could say about the place where some setups items dwells, but they never changed place, so once accustomed it stays ok for a looong time among all versions.
_"Micro$oft has an Apple envy complex."_ - It is far worse than that because In Fine m$ wants you to pay a monthly fee to use *_their_* (not yours) O$, they said that publicly a while ago but people do not seem to have a good memory.
They tend to mess up on approximate every second major version. That trend goes back to even the DOS days.
@@benhetland576 Yes:
DOS 3 : OK
DOS 4 : Broken
DOS 5 : OK
DOS 6 : Broken
Minesweeper was there in Windows 3.1, and I think even earlier. So it's worse than you think.
soon you may need to pay a subscription to be able to use the esc. key. I seem to have trouble finding files that I Have just saved, when i go out of that folder and come back again the file is there - do I need a subscription for this also? can I choose when to allow updates to download or as a user I just don't matter?
If you have a pro version of Win11 (or 10 in that case), you can use the local group policy editor to set auto updates to old behaviour like "download but only notify instead of install" etc.
Doesn't work with home editions though.
Data collection is in the Microsoft Windows licensing agreement they disclose it to the user. The fact is that most people don’t read it and just click “agree”
I have Windows 11 and I have to restart it every 6 hours or less because of how inconsistent the system behaviour are, it's crazy
I ditched windows after 10 had the cheek to autorun a "fitness test" and twll me my computer wasn't good enough to run win 11. Firstly, I never asked! Secondly, I'm still running hitman 3 on ultra settings and hitting 60fps, my computer is fine! I'm now happy in Linux. I'd forgotten how nice having control over your workstation feels!
I'm using Fedora myself 😊
@@AverageNerdTalks nice! I run debian, but am thinking of jumping ship to endeavor. I want these fancy DE updates everyone else has! Looking at the comments here perhaps this year really will be the year of linux!
@paultapping9510 Linux is cool and all but I have been exposed to the "WINDOWS SUX!!!!1111" Rhetoric for 10+ years at this point and despite multiple fuck ups, missteps, and major bluffs from MS the year of Linux never comes. It will take MS making windows a subscription before Linux market share increases.
Plus if Linux gets popular I have no doubt it will become corporate and greedy the same way Windows has.
You look like mutahar
Word was just about to say the same thing. Like mutas younger brother 😂
He very well could be the heir apparent. 😎
All he needs is his background to give off sex dungeon vibe and a change of camera angle
He should begin the video with "Me NOT Mutahar!"
what is that background on your screen?
pixabay.com/videos/magic-loop-looping-perfect-forest-42197/
I use NTLite and StartAllBack to make my user experience with windows 11 about a one million times better. It just sucks that I have to run a script every time Windows updates just to debloat it again.
You can set up windows (or so I hear...) without creating an account.
I don't care.
I ditched windows 2 years ago for Linux Mint.....on 5 computers.
And am rather happy with it.
Glad to hear that! I use Fedora for day to day work.
Linux mint is very polished and nice
If you use Rufus to write the Win11 ISO to a USB stick, it'll install without an MS account. It's what I install on machines that need windows these days. Otherwise I use Linux.
Mutahar from Walmart 😂 lol jk, great video❤
I have mad respect for Mutahar! :)
@@AverageNerdTalks i have for you too!
I use classic shell to bring back the old taskbar and ways to do thing
the worst part of windows 11 is that half of the things that were easy to do, now require more steps. oh, and the settings, metro UI apps, task manager and layout is absolute crap
I think the worst part of Windows 11 is that it is essentially spyware. It steps over your privacy and Microsoft owns your PC more than you do when you use Windows. I'm so happy I switched to Linux so long ago that I didn't even have to bother with Windows 11 and I don't intend to ever try it.
We need to go Linux and Linux need to make Wayland moves quickly especially NVIDIA
Takes money, so go ahead and donate.
@@STONE69_ not giving NVIDIA shit lmao. They are world biggest money maker at the moment.
@@STONE69_ That's the sole problem with this "free"-folks, never realize that someone has to pay for stuffs.
Maybe they still live in mom's basement and need no money, the rest of us need to eat and feed their hungry family.
Same with "free energy". Who builds power-plants and needed infrastructure for free?
Minesweeper made its first appearance as part of the operating system in Windows 3.11. It was also made available for purchase for Windows 3.1 as part of _Windows Entertainment Pack._ You can acquire the executable from an older version of Windows and run it on a supported version (as long as it's a 32 bit version, so not the Windows 3.x version). You can also get an old version of _Write_ from Windows 3.1 which has some features missing from _Wordpad_ (this works only with 32 bit versions of Windows because they dropped support for 16 bit Windows applications in 64 bit Windows; so it works with most Windows installs earlier than 7, and a number of Win 7 installations as well). Of course there are several more capable free word processors now, but it was worth doing in the Windows 98 days.
the thing about the onedrive thing is it does it without your input it will blow thru limited data like mobile hotspot!
"Microsoft runs on the same technology as Chrome, with the added trust of Microsoft." LOL
We use the Windows 11 Enterprise version at work, I am the IT guy there and every time I install Windows LinkedIn, Spotify and many other pieces of software are there that have no business being in an Enterprise environment. I love Linux personally and think there is so much potential in Linux!! When will Microsoft learn their lesson sue them again!! Great video by the way!!
If ms copies my files, for example as a backup in one drive, then ms violates copyrights law. If ms collects my personal data then it violates GDPR law in EU.
Unfortunately not. When you install Windows, you accept the EULA. You give Microsoft permission to do these things by accepting that EULA and using your Windows installation.
If I tell you that you can come into my house, but only if you agree that I get to take your phone and read your messages, and then you walk into my house and hand me your phone, you don’t get to then complain that I’m breaking the law; you should’ve stayed outside.
Minesweeper was available in Windows 3.11 - together with Solitaire and Ski... But thanks for this very accessible video!
The account can be skipped, but I let windows years ago when they started to treat my privacy like they own me.
The problem really started taking off when windows 10 was given as a free upgrade. Normally if you wanted to upgrade from xp to 7 that cost 99$ and 7 was the last popular windows version to not have all this telemetry and micro transaction crap built in. With 10 microsoft probably realized they can turn each windows user into a cash flow either through subscriptions to their services which are aggressively pushed at the user. I would gladly pay the 99$ to upgrade just to have a version of windows that has none of the advertising and telemetry built in. Currently windows has adopted a freemium model without the option to pay to make the annoying crap go away.
Linux is the King now...
Linux Mint has everything you could want in a safe, secure, private operating system and it's free!
Great vid thanks! Also, If I can say this, you do remind of Mutahar. 👍
I have a lot of respect for him! 🔥
People should start to use Linux even with all problems it has it is better than Windows in most areas. If people could do that it would force developers to start develop more for multi platform.
Lmao subscription fee for minesweeper, come on ms sell me your shoot lol
Linux has a minesweeper game called KMines. Playing it now. It's better. It costs nada zero nil dollars.
Four years in Linux. I wouldn't go back to Micro💩 if four Micro💩 undercover agents tied me to a post and threatened to chop my boinger off.
@@musicalneptunian ikr kminea,gnome games and many more on flathub
I totally agree with all you said in this video, Microsoft seems to have become so greedy and childish. Edge icon being put on my desktop everytime updates occurred was the last straw for me (silly but annoying). Use Linux Mint now, found good applications after a bit of searching so now i'm a happy Linux user 🙂
I now only have windows boxes for gaming. Most of my games: Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, Dual Universe, Starfield don’t run and can’t be made to run on Linux.
If game companies and graphics drivers broke their addiction to windows we could have nice things.
You know at the end of the day, I will still use Windows, because that's what I know and like. I have no issues with it except for some few quirks here and there, but I will always use it as my daily driver. However, I do plan to use my other rigs to install a much more complex Linux system to run as I now believe that we should not be stuck with one OS but have multiple OS's running at the same time.
You should always use what works best for you. Don't let anyone give you grief for that. 🙂
So true, at all points mentioned. One more point , in my opinion, they keep on stacking stuff on top, instead of rebuilding fresh os from the ground up, they just add more layers on top. Like i get error messages in win 11 with windows 10 box, windows 7 error logo, and windows 95 “ok” button 😂its a joke
Good point! Inconsistent visual design has been a problem in Windows for a long time now.
I think using Windows in the first place must be the worst decision ever. Mac or Linux are far better, but they are not as rich in applications as Windows is, however quality always comes first. Linux Mint is far superiour - it is in general simple to use if you use it for some basic stuff, the desktop design is one if not the best design for the OS, it doesn't consume much of your hardware, and it doesn't need any antivirus to keep you well-secured. Even Mac, despite being expensive, is a more efficient choice - like Linux, you are protected from many viruses and hardware at most is not your major concern.
The only Windows, I still use a few times per week, is Windows XP Home to play the wma copies of my CDs and LPs with WoW and TrueBass effects. I installed and activated that VBox VM in March 2010 and it survived 2 VBox Owners; 3 desktops and 4 CPUs :)
Loved the easy to understand explanation
You opt in by continuing to install windows.
Totally agree. An online account should never be part of an operating system installation requirements!😡😡😡
I keep a windows VM for video games which have significant fps losses under Linux. Other than that, I'm getting by with Linux. The biggest gripe I have thus far, is the lack of simple virtual sound card tools and a tool which removes background noise. Now I'm no stranger to code, github and the lot, but if an OS is to be a daily driver, it'll have to do better than that in order for the average Joe to use it over the strategically easier to handle Windows.
My dad finally had enough of Windows, and trusted me to get him a new laptop. I got him a 2-in-1 convertible laptop with touchscreen, and installed Debian 12 GNOME on it. He’s so happy, and his biggest complaint so far is a single complaint about GNOME Calculator’s icon choice for C/CE. That’s it :D
windows UI elements are a mess. It's not cohesive, there's so much old UI element on Windows 11. A lot of option from control panel haven't ported to the setting app yet.
At least your base point for a good Windows is Windows 7 and not like the majority who say that Windows 10 is wonderful, when it is the same crap as Windows 11:
-both are horribly slow unless you use NVMe SSDs.
- both are full of telemetry. Those who complain about telemetry in Windows 11 but use Windows 10, is everything okay at home?
- both full of bloatware.
- both send you popups so you can use OneDrive, I have an Intel Haswell with Windows 10 and popups appear from time to time in different places asking me to log in with a Microsoft account so as not to miss "the wonders" of one drive
-both ask for a Microsoft account at the time of installation. A week ago I did a clean reinstall on my Windows 10 22H2 Haswell and when the OBEE came out, the first thing it did was ask me for Microsoft account and the only way to bypass it was by disconnecting the internet cable. In Windows 11 you skip it by setting up a fake Outlook account and that's it.
You forgot one very important point : "if there is a file that causes crashes or other problem, we can download it to study it" [SIC] - this was finally said in a public meeting after a reporter who is also a researcher asked m$ 3 times in a row… the theme was : why and what does window$ send home with all that traffic ?
Imagine where it can lead if you are a foreign company developing a revolutionary software/hardware - people do not remember one thing, nsa is before all an industrial intelligence agency, and it is sleeping with m$ from the time of window$ 3.11…
Microsoft is a subscription company now, explains why they want you to use everything by them. Data collection, targeted advertising, or if you don't like it pay a recurring fee. Can't wait for Windows 12 that requires a yearly subscription.
All wise people must have understood by now, your privacy will be gone with the wind if you use this type of systems.
scared about privacy, but using smartphones...
Linux is handling privacy better, meaning nobody dares to talk about the same problems it has.
Just listen what is happening on your ports when connected to internet.
Less virus and such ? Who cares to attack 3% of workstations when one can attack 90% ?
More Linux == more attacks
Not possible because 'open source'? Who reads/understands the code from github before compile and run ?
Make a better desktop, don't copy windows.
Make better applications, don't copy the "bad" company stuff.
And all this should be "free", how this should work when coders need to feed their families ?
This things are not things like crappy smartphone-apps for 0.99 nobody needs.
I can’t use windows 11 without using Start11 by stardock. I just yell the whole time. It’s so stupidly designed. I work in construction and it reminds me of most of the buildings I work on. Has the architect never actually been inside a building before?
There is a way to mitigate a lot of the issues. Never buy the Home Edition of any Windows.
Better yet, never buy Windows
you buy windows ?
got mine (pro-version) for $20 some 15 years ago, since then all updates were free
I believe windows 7 was the pinnacle of development.
"Windows 11, taking away features" should be the tag line for the OS, I just can't do some things in Windows 11 I could in Windows 10, and it's frustrating. Even Blue Tooth doesn't work properly now, that crap worked almost flawless in 10, how do you mess that up so badly? I tried 3 different BT dongles, 2 speakers and 2 controllers, nothing plays well together now, I have to juggle dongles and devices for things to work. They also recently removed Android apps from Windows 11, wtf? That was a big selling point of Win 11.
Compared to my Linux desktop I think BT is very cumbersome to use even on Win10. On Win7 it actually was a bit easier than on Win10/11.
For instance, if I want to send a file from a mobile phone to the Windows machine, then I first have to start some special BT receiver app on the winbox, then wait for the phone to connect, and finally accept the transfer. A lot of clicks! On Linux I only do the last step, which is even configurable. It is similar if I want to send in the opposite direction; can't just right-click and choose "send/share via bluetooth" like I do on Linux and Android ... well, maybe there's another subscription service for that 😉 Afterwards I also need to solve the puzzle of where the received files actually got stored, and then move them to where I want them. (I have left out the steps of turning on/off the BT radio itself, which is somewhat similar on all platforms.)
Yeah, I know. They probably expect us to use the cloud for such things nowadays. Let's not start me up on the topic of mobile data costs and cloud privacy...
For me, the best OS is Windows 7 I never had anything go wrong on it but ever since windows 10 and 11 came out it’s absolutely terrible. I tried linux but none of my apps work even the apps that is made for it. I hope someone out there makes a new OS for everyone. An os where we can choose how it run and what we are using it for. Not all this ai integrated BS that watching you 24/7
Only 5...but these are the big ones I usually see when people start talking about how bad Windows had gotten and Windows 11 in particular.
To your question about bundling Edge with Windows and making it so that you can't easily uninstall it (at least not without hacking it out which some have succeeded in doing), and needing another antitrust lawsuit to stop it, there are some important things to keep in mind but the TL:DR is that no such antitrust case would work in the US just for their actions around the browser:
(numbered just to organize them, but take them in any order you want)
1. Edge hasn't even gotten above 6% in world wide usage on statcounter (it's barely above 5% now). Other sites that track browser usage shows a similar picture. Edge hasn't even beaten Safari and Safari is only available on Apple devices right now. More people use Macs and iPhones that those that use Edge. In terms of browser share, Microsoft isn't even in the running to take control away from the current monopoly on browsers that Google has with Chrome (sitting at about 65%, it's at a high enough number to be considered to have monopolistic influence over the browser market).
2. In the IE antitrust case, Microsoft was officially declared a monopoly that was abusing its power over the market with what they did with IE. At the time, IE's usage was over 90% and IE was basically setting the web standards for all web developers to follow for their site to work for most people (much like how people have to follow what Chrome wants today, but with more ironclad grip on the market). Microsoft ultimately dodged getting broken up, but the damage was done. IE became so infamous (partly from the case, partly for the many technical reasons that irked the tech community) that the only reason why Edge is even called Edge was to try and separate it from IE's legacy...not that it has helped Edge win people over. Tech people won't use Edge on principal (previous antitrust case, previous legacy with IE, Microsoft's current actions, etc.), and the average users won't use Edge because their tech friends that they rely on tell them not to.
For an antitrust case against Microsoft for pushing Edge, Microsoft would not be considered a monopoly abusing its power given that it's NOT holding control over the browser market anymore (other things, YES, they are a monopoly, but not for browsers). Plus, they can say, "go to Mac if you don't like it, they have Safari by default". There's no way for an antitrust case would work for Microsoft pushing its browser on to people in the US when Microsoft is not the dominant player in browser usage.
3. Given how important the browser is to what people use their computer for with more tasks being done in a browser instead on a traditional standalone software application, it's safe say that the browser is the most important application on the computer today. However, as you already stated, there are other problems that, while legal, make things bad for users in Windows. Some of which may even be bigger issues to some people (especially regulators) than Microsoft's desperate attempts at trying to get people to use their browser.
4. Once again it'll be the EU that makes any progress so at least Europe will have a better time of it. Back when XP was used everywhere, European regulators made Microsoft release editions of Windows XP that let users pick a browser rather than forcing IE onto them. It's highly likely this will come back in some form (if it hasn't already) if they feel that Microsoft is getting too pushy with Edge and other software/services. Microsoft is capable of releasing customized versions of Windows to certain regions in the world and still make money. They've done it in the past, and they'll do it again. It will be the US and other countries that won't take on big tech in a meaningful way (for "reasons") that'll suffer the most.
Thank you! This was very informative!
5:17 - Why Microsoft account .. well that's pretty simple .. Microsoft is assuming that if you're using their OS, they own you, lol
It's not solely the problem of Microsoft only, most of the big tech these days are doing the same. Mac and ios always pushes for an apple account and Android always pushes for a Google account. I think what ms is doing the done already by other big tech
I use my laptop for both personal and working with clients, so having Microsoft office and login in with the Microsoft account they give me is necessary. I wish there was a solution to this other than dual boot.
I moved away from Windows years ago to linux, the only time I install windows every 8 month when needed to update some drivers still depending on windows then nuke it few days after from my 2nd hard drive. As Microsoft made it worst each time it won't change until thry lose out market share.
You could buy a cheap SSD (250GB is plenty) and install Windows on it. Just plug it when it need it! :)
@@AverageNerdTalksI did try that, it ran so slow after sometime even was not even on the 2.0 usb speed, was not usable anymore so I didn't do that again.
@@ZaberfangX Ah, my apologies for not being clear: I meant you buy an internal SSD connect it inside your computer to the SATA port. Of course if you're on a laptop then this won't work. USB will be very slow, yes....
@@AverageNerdTalks is all good.
XP is pure nostalgia at this point.
I agree with all your points. I ditched Windows six years ago and I had no problem using Linux since then, as a software engineer.
vim?
@@guruware8612There is no need to use Vim, if you don't want to.
13:00 It's not conspiracy theory all they need is some form of ID, account, being singned in to some chrome or windows id, apple id to identify activity for example in your browser, since for example Google AdSense is ran on every webslite, basically Google can connect ID to this activity to you no matter what you do on what website on what device, you write something on X moment later you see this on F, then on Y so on, If they can collect data about people then can do politics know trends how to fool people how to push certain idea, how to manipulate not just ads, power of cookies!
I've been running Linux at home for the past 10 years and have never been more satisfied. When I occasionally use a Windows OS, I find myself constantly cursing.
Been a windows user since Windows 95 but these days my Windows desktop sits mostly idle unless I want to play a game. My work/productivity computers are running MacOs or Linux these days. Was pretty happy with Windows 7. All been downhill since then.
I hate Windows.
One time I moved over to Linux Mint for about half a year out of frustration, but some things I rely on daily didn't work and in the end I ended up back on Windows 10.
The next time I get fed up, I'll probably install Proxmox with Windows and Linux Mint VMs. Until then I'm starting to selfhost all the things, so that once I move for real, I just need to connect my OS to all my services so that the transition between operating systems will hopefully be relatively seamless.
I'm starting to think that Browsers are becoming the new operating systems anyways with more and more things just using a WebUI instead of having things running at the OS layer. That step is actually really nice for cross-compatibility imo.
You could try dual boot. I keep a Windows 10 installation around on a separate drive in case I need it. Haven't had to use it in a couple years but it's there if needed.
@@AverageNerdTalks That is what I did originally. But I had to boot into windows daily, so it got pretty annoying to reboot all the time and there were no things I needed to do daily which I couldn't do on windows.
@@Alice_Fumo And also the latest Window versions seem to mess with the boot partion/setup every time they boot. Earlier versions only messed up when you installed them, not on every boot.
"Kinda"?
"Now"?
In all seriousness, though: Windows seems to be moving to a subscription service for the OS, and that shouldn't be acceptable to anyone.
So true bruh
Isn't windows becoming a subscription a good thing? People who Won't stand for it/don't have the money will use Linux instead, meaning greater software compatibility over there, and MS will lose market share, public opinion and most importantly, money. With the way they're going I expect it to happen any time now tbh
@@64bitmodels66Maybe, but don't underestimate people just saying, "Ah, screw it" and going with the subscription because they're locked in to the MS ecosystem.
@@64bitmodels66 if Linux comes in competition don't you think Ms will start doing good things,then definitely I will use windows like hell