It was shot on 16mm, which is why it looks like film but not quite. Digital in '95 was too low-res for the image you see. I don't even think they had 24fps digital cameras back then.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right. Sony had the DCR-VX1000 that Lars Von Trier used to shoot "The Idiots, but that was filmed in '97, and that camera wasn't released until '95 after "Kids" was filmed, and "The Idiots" looks like poop compared to "Kids". Thanks for your comment, I'm always happy to learn something.
@@killallrobots2001 Technically, he wasn't even supposed to since the Dogme95 rules stipulate film, but then again they never took their rules as seriously as the Americans did. Surprised that you know THE IDIOTS, that's becoming a deeper cut as time goes by.
@@Theomite guess Von Trier thought, "I wrote the rules, I can break them. " I think the only film anyone really noticed that came from Dogme 95 was "Dancer In The Dark", but I have my bias.
@@killallrobots2001 THE CELEBRATION was widely recognized at the time and has grown in reputation over the years. THE KING IS ALIVE also has its clout. DANCER is one of the other well-known ones, but yeah, most of the others are lesser known in the age of High-Def.
i watched this movie the other night. i’m pretty desensitized to basically everything but this movie did make my jaw drop. some of it is highly inaccurate (the sleeping with 12 year olds, and the racism mainly since today that’s unacceptable and majority would agree, or minor access to clubbing) and i feel as though i’ve heard a lot more people glamorizing this movie and completely ignoring jennie’s sexual assault by saying casper is one of the most likable characters & skimming over jennie & what he did to her which really makes me upset that was the part where i didn’t even finish the movie lol, also him using racial slurs did not feel necessary at all?? not to mention those who claimed they wanted to live this tragic lifestyle. the soundtrack for the movie is really good and the only thing i enjoyed about it. i have met a few people in person who are like this with virgin fetishization. stds are actually alot more common among youth than some may think i knew a girl who slept around and eventually caught chalymida. i can admire some aspects of how real this movie is and i think for it’s time it seemed kinda educational movie (due to aids being a practical death sentence during the 80s - 90s as well as the stigma being only lgbt catch the disease) depending on what light teens are able to look at it from i can’t help but to hate this movie & think of it kinda fondly at the same time the characters are sooo unlikable but i guess that’s how they’re meant to be presented the people who wrote the movie are my main cons about it larry clark a 40 year old ex addict seeking younger addicts and paying their way with marijuana doesn’t sit right with me at all, them demanding certain cast members to get more touchy make it more real is really gross, the writer also exploiting his LITERAL FRIENDS who gave him a place to crash is also disturbing. he comes off as super narcissistic even though he’s only really known for this movie due to the shocking nature of it. he claims he’s film gold because he got one compliment from a teacher in highschool and only credits himself when interviewed they really didn’t need actual minors for this movie REAL kids picked off the street to play these parts: the florida project for example didn’t use many minors and didn’t expose them to horrid situations such as this overall you did great review you have a very calming voice lol it’s nice to see someone script things on paper as well :) i’m sorry for the long comment but keep it up!!
If you grew up in a poor, quasi-rural area of the South in 80s/90s, "Gummo" is far more relevant, I can assure you. I saw "Kids" first and it's something of a masterpiece, but "Gummo" is also pretty high on my list. Definitely my favorite Korine directed film.
It feels very strange that I like this movie so much. I saw it when I was 6 with my uncle, but watched again at 16 and I was jaw dropped, it's a Classic
Just saw a 2 hour and 45 minute documentary on homeless teens in Portland and a guy who tries to save them somehow. That documentary crushes the F-ing f out of this movie. I've seen kids over twenty times. The doc is so much sicker because real life has more guts. Good movie tough, for when I saw the thing,, a bunch of times, when I was 15.
@@mashakooli dude, shit. Hold your horses please. I'll copy it in the thing. It's just sad as F, and I wanted to find the kids homes and blah blah blah (help i guess, although how's not glowing with many answers) and I never wanted to help any of the kids in the movie Kids because it wasn't showcasing that type existence and i was, I don't know. Hold on....
I never knew this movie existed and only just recently in my adulthood I found it it existed.!In 1995, I was too young so I’m guessing my mom protected me from seeing it. All I can say now as seeing it as an adult and literally just found out this movie even existed is my mom had every right to shield me from seeing this movie. It was very dark and seeing it so young and under the age of 10, would have messed me up.
IMO kids was great but the sex/aids storyline was way too much highlighted. All the other scenes were so much better. You're absolutely spot on with the lighting and directing. It looked so real and shoutout to my mom who was a teacher and showed this movie in class after asking me what she should show. A couple of years later I would have recommended her American history x though ...
This movie is required watching for today’s young people - not for the storyline or any sort of moral message - it should be watched to see how free and open the people were then. Look at how they walk, their posture, the way they interact, the frankness of the facial expression, the lack of self concern. Young people now are so closed and guarded, so unfree, so curated. Let it go, relax. Be free.
Ever seen the doc "Streetwise," about the homeless kids in Seattle? Or "Pixote" from Brazil? Or "The 400 Blows"? There were previous movies about kids that were not suitable for kids to watch. Especially Pixote. It features a kid being gang raped, and a teen having sex with an older prostitute while younger kids watch.
i heard in person he’s kinda a douche.. i also think he’s overhyped. movies like this have been done before his was just really raw while also putting minors in a bunch of uncomfortable and unsafe situations lol he talks like he thinks very highly of himself and takes full credit for kids when he kinda just exploited his friends (i do think it’s admirable he won’t let his young daughter watch his work at her age though)
I have some thought about this movie in no particular order. I know that Larry Clark is super creepy, but I believe Harmony Korine also has some pedo tendencies because his other movies including Ken Park (which he wrote when he was 30) also has underage sex. Ken Park is unwatchable, the sex scenes are sickening. Also Another Day in Paradise has an underage sex scene, Larry Clark has a pattern... I remember when the movie came out (I was in my teens) and lots of kids that I knew, mainly skateboarding crowd, loved it and thought the characters in the movie were so cool. I personally hated it, I hated the heartlessness of it all. I thought they were all dicks. Casper is absolute cringe with the way he talks and moves with his fake swagger, using the N word. There's a documentary called We Once Were Kind where some of the people who were in the movie talk about how they were exploited and the negative effect ti had on their lives. I also never got the 'wake-up call to adults' thing. I honestly don't think most kids my age (at the time) behaved like that. HIV was not a big issue. The sex and drugs, maybe. But it wasn't as out of control as it was in the movie, even the actors said that it was really exaggerated. The sexual dialogue being spoken up underage actors is also really uncomfortable. Like the girl talking about being 14 and having sex with an 18 year old (yeah, that's r*pe) so casually. In my friend group, if a 17 year old boy was having sex with 12 year olds he would have been ostracised at the very least. Probably would have been beaten up. His behaviour was not realistic for kids back in the 90s. Sure there were boys who were straight up perverts, but not predatory borderline pedos. I also feel that the racial dynamics were not addressed. And I'm glad that the documentary spoke about this. The Black characters/ actors were coming from poverty, racial trauma and the movie showed the end result of this without addressing the underlying issues. I kind of hate that the Black characters are lumped in with the heartlessness of the movie. The white characters were just straight up sociopathic assholes. I watched the documentary and it's upsetting how the minor 'actors' were exploited, like encouraging them to act in sexual scenes, drugs on set with minors, a rape scene next to a sleeping 12 year old. And the scene where they beat the Black man is so disturbing and just looks so racist, especially as it was written by a white kid. I hate that sene so much. At the end when the white kid holds him up while another white kid beats him with the skateboard was so unnecessary and brutal. Getting Harold Hunter to expose himself to the girls, some were underage, asking them if they 'Ever seen a Black mans' lasso'. What the fuck. So yeah, now that I'm older, watching Kids is super uncomfortable for all the teenage sex. It also seems super 'try-hard' and moralistic and not as 'cool' as it likes to think it is.
@@killallrobots2001 No problem. You should watch the We Were Once Kids (I misspelled that in my original comment) documentary. The trailer is on RUclips. It's really sad. It tells the story of many of the cast members and how the movie negatively affected their lives. And like how uncomfortable they were being directed to act sexually, because they were young and inexperienced themselves. The saddest was Harold Hunter (the Black skateboarder). They really took advantage of him for the movie. Also the movie should come with a warning about featuring underage actors during sex scenes and minors using real drugs. I do not want to see young kids kissing and simulating sex scenes, that's so gross. I know a lot of people love Kids but the documentary cemented my dislike of the movie. It's heartless and exploitative. The negative effect on the young 'actors' wasn't worth it.
I’m not saying that Larry Clark (or Harmony Korine) isn’t a pervert - maybe he is, maybe he isn’t - but his work focuses on unfiltered depictions of the worst parts of youth culture - even going back to his photography collections like Tulsa - and whether you like it or not, sex is part of teenage culture and the teenage experience, so it would be kinda dishonest to not depict these characters engaging in sexual activity.
@@xtldc Pedo apologist. There is no need for an old man to 'depict youth culture' or 'depict them engaging in sexual activity'. Nobody needs to see that. Kids/ teens cannot give proper consent to being depicted his way which why we have laws to protect kids from exploitation. And this is just a cover to get access to underage kids. Most normal older people would find doing his type of 'work' uncomfortable and gross. You cannot justify it, sorry. Unless you lean towards his type of mentality. He definitely is a pervert and if you can't see it then you have a problem.
Teens have sex, they are not supposed to but they do. Also your interpretation of pedophilia is wrong, understandable the way it's thrown around these days but doesn't change the fact that pedophiles are attracted only to pre-pubescent underdeveloped children. They are not attracted to teenagers, that's a different category.
It was shot on 16mm, which is why it looks like film but not quite. Digital in '95 was too low-res for the image you see. I don't even think they had 24fps digital cameras back then.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right. Sony had the DCR-VX1000 that Lars Von Trier used to shoot "The Idiots, but that was filmed in '97, and that camera wasn't released until '95 after "Kids" was filmed, and "The Idiots" looks like poop compared to "Kids". Thanks for your comment, I'm always happy to learn something.
@@killallrobots2001 Technically, he wasn't even supposed to since the Dogme95 rules stipulate film, but then again they never took their rules as seriously as the Americans did. Surprised that you know THE IDIOTS, that's becoming a deeper cut as time goes by.
I was about to comment the same, but ya beat me to it.
@@Theomite guess Von Trier thought, "I wrote the rules, I can break them. " I think the only film anyone really noticed that came from Dogme 95 was "Dancer In The Dark", but I have my bias.
@@killallrobots2001 THE CELEBRATION was widely recognized at the time and has grown in reputation over the years. THE KING IS ALIVE also has its clout. DANCER is one of the other well-known ones, but yeah, most of the others are lesser known in the age of High-Def.
i watched this movie the other night. i’m pretty desensitized to basically everything but this movie did make my jaw drop. some of it is highly inaccurate (the sleeping with 12 year olds, and the racism mainly since today that’s unacceptable and majority would agree, or minor access to clubbing) and i feel as though i’ve heard a lot more people glamorizing this movie and completely ignoring jennie’s sexual assault by saying casper is one of the most likable characters & skimming over jennie & what he did to her which really makes me upset that was the part where i didn’t even finish the movie lol, also him using racial slurs did not feel necessary at all?? not to mention those who claimed they wanted to live this tragic lifestyle. the soundtrack for the movie is really good and the only thing i enjoyed about it. i have met a few people in person who are like this with virgin fetishization. stds are actually alot more common among youth than some may think i knew a girl who slept around and eventually caught chalymida. i can admire some aspects of how real this movie is and i think for it’s time it seemed kinda educational movie (due to aids being a practical death sentence during the 80s - 90s as well as the stigma being only lgbt catch the disease) depending on what light teens are able to look at it from i can’t help but to hate this movie & think of it kinda fondly at the same time the characters are sooo unlikable but i guess that’s how they’re meant to be presented the people who wrote the movie are my main cons about it larry clark a 40 year old ex addict seeking younger addicts and paying their way with marijuana doesn’t sit right with me at all, them demanding certain cast members to get more touchy make it more real is really gross, the writer also exploiting his LITERAL FRIENDS who gave him a place to crash is also disturbing. he comes off as super narcissistic even though he’s only really known for this movie due to the shocking nature of it. he claims he’s film gold because he got one compliment from a teacher in highschool and only credits himself when interviewed
they really didn’t need actual minors for this movie REAL kids picked off the street to play these parts: the florida project for example didn’t use many minors and didn’t expose them to horrid situations such as this
overall you did great review you have a very calming voice lol it’s nice to see someone script things on paper as well :) i’m sorry for the long comment but keep it up!!
Thank you...and thanks for your comment. It wasn't too long, and you actually mentioned a few things I was thinking, but didn't mention.
If you grew up in a poor, quasi-rural area of the South in 80s/90s, "Gummo" is far more relevant, I can assure you. I saw "Kids" first and it's something of a masterpiece, but "Gummo" is also pretty high on my list. Definitely my favorite Korine directed film.
The irony is that if you’re 16 I think it should be required watching.
It feels very strange that I like this movie so much. I saw it when I was 6 with my uncle, but watched again at 16 and I was jaw dropped, it's a Classic
Hello. Someone corrected me in the comment section, it was shot in 16mm.
Thank you for your correction.
Just saw a 2 hour and 45 minute documentary on homeless teens in Portland and a guy who tries to save them somehow. That documentary crushes the F-ing f out of this movie. I've seen kids over twenty times. The doc is so much sicker because real life has more guts. Good movie tough, for when I saw the thing,, a bunch of times, when I was 15.
Whats the doc called & where did you watch it?
@@mashakooli dude, shit. Hold your horses please. I'll copy it in the thing. It's just sad as F, and I wanted to find the kids homes and blah blah blah (help i guess, although how's not glowing with many answers) and I never wanted to help any of the kids in the movie Kids because it wasn't showcasing that type existence and i was, I don't know. Hold on....
ruclips.net/video/SRHNfv66Uyo/видео.html&feature=share
That shit
@@mattski1979 hold my horses? sheesh who peed in your cheerios 😅 all I did was ask a question
kids was a great movie i thought it was a masterpiece
I never knew this movie existed and only just recently in my adulthood I found it it existed.!In 1995, I was too young so I’m guessing my mom protected me from seeing it. All I can say now as seeing it as an adult and literally just found out this movie even existed is my mom had every right to shield me from seeing this movie. It was very dark and seeing it so young and under the age of 10, would have messed me up.
It was a great movie. Not for the overly sensitive and faint of heart. Unfortunately, you cant make a movie like that today.
Movie gives me flashbacks from childhood
rip justin pierce
It does seem like it was shot like a documentary. Mot sure if it was completely intentional or not but it was very raw and captivating in that way
IMO kids was great but the sex/aids storyline was way too much highlighted. All the other scenes were so much better. You're absolutely spot on with the lighting and directing. It looked so real and shoutout to my mom who was a teacher and showed this movie in class after asking me what she should show. A couple of years later I would have recommended her American history x though ...
Watching this creates a sense of unease-like a glimpse of Dante's Inferno showing the consequences of the 'do what feels good' culture.
I hope you keep making videos, man. Have a good day
Thanks!
My friend from school was in the movies kids !!!!!!!! He was the guy that was kissing the 3 chicks at the rave !!!!! !!! Miss the 90s
I remember that scene. Your friend really suffered for art 😏
@@killallrobots2001 lmao
I literally just watched it today 😂😂😂😂 I'm at a loss for words
It should come with a warning.
@@killallrobots2001 it definitely felt like exploitation sadly
@@waynegreen7634 it was exploitation. The director only paid the kids 1000 each 😮😢
Them kids was crazy but I watch it I glad I wasn’t out of control like those kids…
I had friends kinda like them...not as bad, but close.
I snuck into the movie theater.. me and my highschool friends, afterwords we were like dam that was crazy
This movie sticks with you
This movie is required watching for today’s young people - not for the storyline or any sort of moral message - it should be watched to see how free and open the people were then. Look at how they walk, their posture, the way they interact, the frankness of the facial expression, the lack of self concern. Young people now are so closed and guarded, so unfree, so curated. Let it go, relax. Be free.
Shot on 16mm film, def not digital. Unless you’re talking about the vignettes of skate footage or inserts shot on a camcorder
Hah, yes, someone already corrected me on that, but I do appreciate the view and the comment. I think I'm the only one to make this mistake.
Ever seen the doc "Streetwise," about the homeless kids in Seattle? Or "Pixote" from Brazil? Or "The 400 Blows"? There were previous movies about kids that were not suitable for kids to watch. Especially Pixote. It features a kid being gang raped, and a teen having sex with an older prostitute while younger kids watch.
I've seen "The 400 Blows" years ago. I've never heard of the other two, but thanks for bringing them to my attention.
Harmony korin overhyped…..??????ts i think you don’t know what you talking about!!!
You might be right. What's your favorite movie of his that he directed?
@@killallrobots2001 my favorite movie is kids but beach bum is also a very good movie!!!!
i heard in person he’s kinda a douche.. i also think he’s overhyped. movies like this have been done before his was just really raw while also putting minors in a bunch of uncomfortable and unsafe situations lol he talks like he thinks very highly of himself and takes full credit for kids when he kinda just exploited his friends (i do think it’s admirable he won’t let his young daughter watch his work at her age though)
Not Flea
It's Roach
Hah, you're right
I think i tried watching it as a kid but it was too much for me to grasp.
Are you on the gram ?
I JUST started an account, killa.robots, but I haven't done anything with it yet
I have some thought about this movie in no particular order.
I know that Larry Clark is super creepy, but I believe Harmony Korine also has some pedo tendencies because his other movies including Ken Park (which he wrote when he was 30) also has underage sex. Ken Park is unwatchable, the sex scenes are sickening.
Also Another Day in Paradise has an underage sex scene, Larry Clark has a pattern...
I remember when the movie came out (I was in my teens) and lots of kids that I knew, mainly skateboarding crowd, loved it and thought the characters in the movie were so cool. I personally hated it, I hated the heartlessness of it all. I thought they were all dicks. Casper is absolute cringe with the way he talks and moves with his fake swagger, using the N word.
There's a documentary called We Once Were Kind where some of the people who were in the movie talk about how they were exploited and the negative effect ti had on their lives.
I also never got the 'wake-up call to adults' thing. I honestly don't think most kids my age (at the time) behaved like that. HIV was not a big issue. The sex and drugs, maybe. But it wasn't as out of control as it was in the movie, even the actors said that it was really exaggerated.
The sexual dialogue being spoken up underage actors is also really uncomfortable. Like the girl talking about being 14 and having sex with an 18 year old (yeah, that's r*pe) so casually.
In my friend group, if a 17 year old boy was having sex with 12 year olds he would have been ostracised at the very least. Probably would have been beaten up. His behaviour was not realistic for kids back in the 90s. Sure there were boys who were straight up perverts, but not predatory borderline pedos.
I also feel that the racial dynamics were not addressed. And I'm glad that the documentary spoke about this. The Black characters/ actors were coming from poverty, racial trauma and the movie showed the end result of this without addressing the underlying issues. I kind of hate that the Black characters are lumped in with the heartlessness of the movie. The white characters were just straight up sociopathic assholes.
I watched the documentary and it's upsetting how the minor 'actors' were exploited, like encouraging them to act in sexual scenes, drugs on set with minors, a rape scene next to a sleeping 12 year old.
And the scene where they beat the Black man is so disturbing and just looks so racist, especially as it was written by a white kid. I hate that sene so much. At the end when the white kid holds him up while another white kid beats him with the skateboard was so unnecessary and brutal.
Getting Harold Hunter to expose himself to the girls, some were underage, asking them if they 'Ever seen a Black mans' lasso'. What the fuck.
So yeah, now that I'm older, watching Kids is super uncomfortable for all the teenage sex. It also seems super 'try-hard' and moralistic and not as 'cool' as it likes to think it is.
Thank you so much for this comment.
@@killallrobots2001 No problem. You should watch the We Were Once Kids (I misspelled that in my original comment) documentary. The trailer is on RUclips.
It's really sad. It tells the story of many of the cast members and how the movie negatively affected their lives. And like how uncomfortable they were being directed to act sexually, because they were young and inexperienced themselves.
The saddest was Harold Hunter (the Black skateboarder). They really took advantage of him for the movie.
Also the movie should come with a warning about featuring underage actors during sex scenes and minors using real drugs. I do not want to see young kids kissing and simulating sex scenes, that's so gross.
I know a lot of people love Kids but the documentary cemented my dislike of the movie. It's heartless and exploitative. The negative effect on the young 'actors' wasn't worth it.
I’m not saying that Larry Clark (or Harmony Korine) isn’t a pervert - maybe he is, maybe he isn’t - but his work focuses on unfiltered depictions of the worst parts of youth culture - even going back to his photography collections like Tulsa - and whether you like it or not, sex is part of teenage culture and the teenage experience, so it would be kinda dishonest to not depict these characters engaging in sexual activity.
@@xtldc Pedo apologist. There is no need for an old man to 'depict youth culture' or 'depict them engaging in sexual activity'. Nobody needs to see that.
Kids/ teens cannot give proper consent to being depicted his way which why we have laws to protect kids from exploitation.
And this is just a cover to get access to underage kids.
Most normal older people would find doing his type of 'work' uncomfortable and gross.
You cannot justify it, sorry. Unless you lean towards his type of mentality.
He definitely is a pervert and if you can't see it then you have a problem.
Teens have sex, they are not supposed to but they do.
Also your interpretation of pedophilia is wrong, understandable the way it's thrown around these days but doesn't change the fact that pedophiles are attracted only to pre-pubescent underdeveloped children. They are not attracted to teenagers, that's a different category.
One of the worst films ever made
I don't agree with you, but I COMPLETELY understand where you're coming from.
One of the dumbed comments ever posted.
I was 12, and on that same track of the "kids" in the movie. So yes it was raw!!! I saw it around 97-99 era.