I’m currently a student majoring in Industrial Engineering and it is fascinating hearing concepts I’m learning right now appear in this convo just based off the experience Joe has had trying to set up a process flow. You can tell he has spent many hours and lots of sweat to figure these ideas out for himself and I’m glad he is willing to help others learn!
Always enjoy the videos of you guys getting together. As a viewer I get a kick out of seeing 2 channels we watch for similar reasons being real people and actually getting together in reality.
Ask your mom to draw out an overhead “concept” diagram. Create little cut outs shaped like your equipment, so you can move them around. She did a great job on your garage.
I used to think this process was a waste of time. Till I did it. This advice is spot on !! Very worthwhile! I might add, keep the drawing and machine cut outs. You may have different ideas after using a set up, or, you may (gasp) add another piece of equipment.
I'm hearing an important underlying story here too based on how Joe got into the business full time. A white collar job is hard to beat from a financial perspective up until early 40s. As you start getting into your late 40s and certainly 50s, that base salary starts to grow along with the target on your back. What Adam is doing now with respect to the RUclips channel and the wood business is very smart because it's much easier to work out kinks while you're still in hobby/side hustle mode.
Joe has got some great points... before setting up a turn around I'd get a truck to come in and pick his brain.. just make sure he can back out till you get your property in order.. remember the truck has to unload before turning around because they will tear up whatever you do...
I've only watched the first 8 minutes in my lunch break and this is a fascinating discussion. It's not firewood - it's process engineering, it's production management.
found this channel a couple weeks ago. been catching up from ep.1, just wanna say i absolutely love how everything about your content has evolved and grown except for your ego. keep it real, and keep up the good work! thanks for the great content.
Many local tree services must pay to dump their logs and if you also take the chips too they will call you almost weekly wanting to drop hardwood off to you for free.
Adam, I always enjoy your videos, and I'm a big fan of Joe also. The insights that he offers regarding how to sell firewood are always good to hear! He has built a very successful business through his hard work. I'm sure you will be able to do the same!
Great interview, Adam! Joe seems like a great guy. In my estimation, he is an expert, even if he says he’s not. Anyone who can start and run a business for six years learns a lot along the way. It’s great that he is willing to share his knowledge with you and your viewers. Humble and generous - just like you. Good luck with laying out your wood yard.
Great video. Definitely important to set up efficiently up front, otherwise you can lose time every day you work, and lose even more resetting everything later. I’m in the hobbyist camp now, just producing for my own heating needs, but I’ve contemplated expansion on and off for a few years now.
@18:18 a business person should be able to anticipate value in various markets too, with different customers. for example, cherry, hickory and oaks can make valuable lumber too, so one should be willing to switch to portable saw mills for cutting lumber as needs arise.
Joe has a real nice setup, and makes super good content. I recently purchased a processor, and the one he owns is definitely better quality, but the issue i had with that model was how small a diameter it can process. I believe it only has a 16" bar so realistically can process 12-14" logs versus mine has a 22" bar. It might not sound like a big deal, but it makes it a lot easier to get supplied with logs from loggers if your size range is broader.
Awesome video with a lot of good points. I know people that only buy wood for pleasure, where as I process 8 to 10 cords a year to heat my home. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people selling wood around us in the Aurora/Mantua Ohio area and I wonder if you could make a living at it, unless you captured Ohio Wood Burner’s concept.
Id try to use the woodyard how you have set it up now and then see if it works for you or not. You can change parts afterwards if you find them not working out as great.
Do either of you pay for those truck loads of logs? What is the average you pay, if you do? How do you keep the evergreen species from being part of the load? We are getting a lot of ash trees being taken down, due to local ordinances and obviously dead trees. Good for firewood in my opinion. Any advice on this part of the process would be great.
@@AdamsMom921 OK, this is incredible!! You're Adam's Mom, & you respond to us 💕💕💕 Adam is amazing. His videos should always get positive comments. He knows what he's doing, he's interesting, entertaining, has great ideas/advice, always family safe ✨️, & I appreciate that. Have a blessed day. You did a wonderful job raising your son ✨️ 👍💕
@@DDL2728 I read all the comments on his new videos. He gets all comments on every video he has ever done. So someone who watches a 2 year old one… he gets notified. Thank goodness I don’t have that pressure!!! Thank you for your kind words about Adam. He is the apple of my eye and he makes me very proud. Take care.
The only way to make firewood work full time, is if your spouse still works elsewhere and has access to healthcare benefits for your family. If you gotta pay out of pocket to UPMC or Highmark each month for your family, your looking at least $1200-1500. How many cords do you gotta sell every single month just to cover healthcare? Add in insurance and fuel and pretty soon your doing a lot of work and not netting very much. This is why almost every successful small businessman I know has a spouse working elsewhere and covering their healthcare thru their work. Key component to keep in mind.
I wouldn’t mess around with a turn around. Log truck drivers back up everyday. U need a lot of room for them to turn around which means wasted space for you. One thing to consider is how easy is it for log trucks to pull off the road onto your driveway. Like is your driveway big enough?
Aw man. I can't believe you just leave all those toys.. er.. equipment out in a field in all weathers. Would you not build some kind of cover for them. Even a few tarps.
Brilliant guest , great subject, very good presentation, wonderful sales attitude, beautiful advice . Will go see if he used the i.b.c. totes . Good job on this vid. He makes it sound like two giant leaps between his business and your hobby.
This is the best video I’ve seen with Ohio Joe, he has great knowledge and experience. Great choice to have him visit your woodyard, great ideas from both of you. 🇺🇸👍🏻👏🏻
2 main points Joe offered that are the key to success. The Customer and the workflow process for running you operation efficiently to get your optimal ROI. One thought for the trucks is making a backing lane for them to back into rather than a huge turn around area. I personally feel you would be losing to much space to create a turn around. jmo
Adam -- another wonderful job. I really like what you have done with the property and am looking forward to more work on the garage addition. Very well done!! Say hi to neighbor Doug!
Hi Adam, very good video with Joe. Thought processes now save later relocation in the future. Just a quick idea. . When you have raw logs come in, wouldnt it be efficient to set some old utility poles on the ground 1st, perpendicular to the "skid way"? That way you have the logs up and not getting muddy or water"logged" on the ground. Sorry for the pun but just a thought from one of your fans.👍
One of the things I admire and respect about you, Adam. You know your limitations and you seek wise counsel from those with experience and knowledge. I have no doubt that when you get the whole process set up, it'll be clean and efficient.
Small quantities at a premium price is the way to go if you're a one man operation and you want to make some money without running yourself ragged. I started selling by the tractor bucket load that was just shy of a face cord. I was selling it way too cheap to start. I could hardly keep up with orders. I knew there had to be a better way to sell a quantity that was bigger than a bundle and was easily moved and delivered. I started selling wood in 55 gallon food grade barrels with removable lids. Each barrel holds approx 1/6th of a face cord and I sell it for $45 delivered. So I'm now getting $270 per face cord instead of $60-$100 which is the going rate in my area. I openly tell people that buying wood from me is not the cheapest way to go but it's dry, in a weather/bug/rodent proof container and it's delivered right to their back yard. No handling, no stacking, no hauling heavy bags home from the gas station and it's good hardwood split small for easy and complete burning. Dave
I don't agree. "SMED" is the concept that you can go from species "A" to species "B" as fast as you can do two of the same. In your environment that would be the ability to dump off the processor or axis into different bins all set up. Each is removed, stacked, and replaced as they individually fill. But an intermediate setup area with the pick, turn, travel, drop, turn, travel... Repeating with the loading of the processor, is horrific at best, and give up at worst. Spend that "effort" making a diverter chute that can spin 270 degrees into a semi-circle off your processor.
0:06 okay, a corporate job doesn't mean anything that could be IT. It could be accounts payable. It could be the CEO. It could be a whole lot of things. So what was Joe at that corporation exactly?
Presuming this will grow into something more than a hobby, I'd invest in a wider live deck rather than wasting time cutting trees in half and then restacking prior to processing. Anywhere where wheeled access is needed, there needs to be a solid all-weather base - maybe 6-8" of crushed aggregate over a geotextile fabric with properly-graded yard and access roads (crowns/slopes/drainage pipes etc). Nothing worse than being unable to work because your work area is a slippery mudhole mess (as is Joe's all-too-often). All-weather access is probably the most overlooked aspect of these types of outdoor businesses.
He doesn't seem to be well organized is all. I'm not saying he is a bad guy but he doesn't really seem like he knows what he is going to do next is all.
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I’m currently a student majoring in Industrial Engineering and it is fascinating hearing concepts I’m learning right now appear in this convo just based off the experience Joe has had trying to set up a process flow. You can tell he has spent many hours and lots of sweat to figure these ideas out for himself and I’m glad he is willing to help others learn!
Always enjoy the videos of you guys getting together. As a viewer I get a kick out of seeing 2 channels we watch for similar reasons being real people and actually getting together in reality.
Ask your mom to draw out an overhead “concept” diagram. Create little cut outs shaped like your equipment, so you can move them around. She did a great job on your garage.
Good idea! I’ll work on that
I used to think this process was a waste of time.
Till I did it.
This advice is spot on !!
Very worthwhile!
I might add, keep the drawing and machine cut outs.
You may have different ideas after using a set up, or, you may (gasp) add another piece of equipment.
Lol “gasp” haha
Thanks for sharing the information! Love the firewood business.
I'm hearing an important underlying story here too based on how Joe got into the business full time. A white collar job is hard to beat from a financial perspective up until early 40s. As you start getting into your late 40s and certainly 50s, that base salary starts to grow along with the target on your back. What Adam is doing now with respect to the RUclips channel and the wood business is very smart because it's much easier to work out kinks while you're still in hobby/side hustle mode.
Joe has got some great points... before setting up a turn around I'd get a truck to come in and pick his brain.. just make sure he can back out till you get your property in order.. remember the truck has to unload before turning around because they will tear up whatever you do...
I've only watched the first 8 minutes in my lunch break and this is a fascinating discussion.
It's not firewood - it's process engineering, it's production management.
found this channel a couple weeks ago. been catching up from ep.1, just wanna say i absolutely love how everything about your content has evolved and grown except for your ego. keep it real, and keep up the good work! thanks for the great content.
WOW Adam, Joe was excellent. They say CASH is KING as specially if it's coming from your CUSTOMER. Great video. 👍👍
Many local tree services must pay to dump their logs and if you also take the chips too they will call you almost weekly wanting to drop hardwood off to you for free.
Adam, I always enjoy your videos, and I'm a big fan of Joe also. The insights that he offers regarding how to sell firewood are always good to hear! He has built a very successful business through his hard work. I'm sure you will be able to do the same!
You guys are a great team on your last couple of videos. Great work and great discussion. Thanks for sharing. Nebraska WoodSTR
Experience is the best teacher. This fella can give you general guidance but you will fine tune your operation as you go along.
Great interview, Adam! Joe seems like a great guy. In my estimation, he is an expert, even if he says he’s not. Anyone who can start and run a business for six years learns a lot along the way. It’s great that he is willing to share his knowledge with you and your viewers. Humble and generous - just like you. Good luck with laying out your wood yard.
Great video. Definitely important to set up efficiently up front, otherwise you can lose time every day you work, and lose even more resetting everything later. I’m in the hobbyist camp now, just producing for my own heating needs, but I’ve contemplated expansion on and off for a few years now.
You getting advice from Ohio wood burner is good, you can learn from this, I spoke to someone who is from Philadelphia,
Joe forgot!.....and have a great day! 👍
That’s all great advice… and not just applicable to firewood! 🔥
Lots of great ideas, lots of planning to take place, going to be nice to see everything up and running
@18:18 a business person should be able to anticipate value in various markets too, with different customers. for example, cherry, hickory and oaks can make valuable lumber too, so one should be willing to switch to portable saw mills for cutting lumber as needs arise.
Joe has a real nice setup, and makes super good content. I recently purchased a processor, and the one he owns is definitely better quality, but the issue i had with that model was how small a diameter it can process. I believe it only has a 16" bar so realistically can process 12-14" logs versus mine has a 22" bar. It might not sound like a big deal, but it makes it a lot easier to get supplied with logs from loggers if your size range is broader.
I've worked in manufacturing my whole life from sausage, to automotive, to pharmaceuticals. Eliminate the waste of motion.
Good advice. Flow it all one direction so you are not handling the same piece of wood twice without doing something to it.
Great video, this is a long term goal of mine to grow the business so I can leave the 9-5 and work on the property only.
Joe, is the man. Value Added Expert, and has. A Bobcat!😂 Great Teamwork 🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
Is there any way to make a new entry onto your property to make a U-shaped drive through the wood yard? May make the work flow a bit better.
We will have to look at that… there is a lot of road frontage… some has a natural low swampy type area
Cool video, there is a lot to consider before pulling the trigger on a firewood business. Thanks for the info I appreciate the insider opinion.
Awesome video with a lot of good points. I know people that only buy wood for pleasure, where as I process 8 to 10 cords a year to heat my home. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people selling wood around us in the Aurora/Mantua Ohio area and I wonder if you could make a living at it, unless you captured Ohio Wood Burner’s concept.
Great Advice on building a woodyard. I appreciate y'all sharing information with the rest of us. Have a Safe Day
Good luck on your expansion,Adam. You couldn't invited a better business guy than Joe. He super.
Agree 💯 % !!
Adam thanks a LOT having me and my camera girl out. You have a beautiful place and I think the sky is the limit for you! Joe
Adam, you and Joe make a wonderful team. I have enjoyed both of your last videos. Keep up the good work.
Id try to use the woodyard how you have set it up now and then see if it works for you or not. You can change parts afterwards if you find them not working out as great.
Do either of you pay for those truck loads of logs? What is the average you pay, if you do? How do you keep the evergreen species from being part of the load? We are getting a lot of ash trees being taken down, due to local ordinances and obviously dead trees. Good for firewood in my opinion. Any advice on this part of the process would be great.
You buy the logs from the logger and it is measured in pulp cord. Chris has a video on how that works. His channel is called "In the Wood Yard"
Great seeing you guys together. Keep up the great work guys.
Thanks Andrew!
You two are too cute & good businessmen!!! Thanks for another great video. God bless you and your family 💕🙏💕
I love that you always give positive comments… thank you!!!!
@@AdamsMom921 OK, this is incredible!! You're Adam's Mom, & you respond to us 💕💕💕 Adam is amazing. His videos should always get positive comments. He knows what he's doing, he's interesting, entertaining, has great ideas/advice, always family safe ✨️, & I appreciate that. Have a blessed day. You did a wonderful job raising your son ✨️ 👍💕
@@DDL2728 I read all the comments on his new videos.
He gets all comments on every video he has ever done. So someone who watches a 2 year old one… he gets notified. Thank goodness I don’t have that pressure!!!
Thank you for your kind words about Adam. He is the apple of my eye and he makes me very proud. Take care.
@@AdamsMom921 👍💕👍
How much land do you have?
Great video! Very informative!
Excellent video
Hey Adam is this true I have won a gift,, or have you been hacked.
What gift
It’s awesome to see two You Tube channel Personalities together that I watch all the time awesome content. Cheers Brad 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦
The only way to make firewood work full time, is if your spouse still works elsewhere and has access to healthcare benefits for your family. If you gotta pay out of pocket to UPMC or Highmark each month for your family, your looking at least $1200-1500. How many cords do you gotta sell every single month just to cover healthcare? Add in insurance and fuel and pretty soon your doing a lot of work and not netting very much. This is why almost every successful small businessman I know has a spouse working elsewhere and covering their healthcare thru their work. Key component to keep in mind.
Great show today.
Excellent excellent video!!!
I wouldn’t mess around with a turn around. Log truck drivers back up everyday. U need a lot of room for them to turn around which means wasted space for you. One thing to consider is how easy is it for log trucks to pull off the road onto your driveway. Like is your driveway big enough?
So much wisdom here.
Thanks for highlighting Joe. He’s a pretty savvy dude.
Are you still selling out at the road? Have you considered bagging chunks for those who smoke meat? It’s more work and much higher reward.
The very reason I watch Joe’s channel is because he discusses business processes related to firewood selling. Tim in northern TN
Hey Adam! You did a vid last fall on a creative hack for snow plowing stakes, But I can't find it~! Can you point me in the right direction? Thx
Have a great day
Aw man. I can't believe you just leave all those toys.. er.. equipment out in a field in all weathers.
Would you not build some kind of cover for them. Even a few tarps.
Brilliant guest , great subject, very good presentation, wonderful sales attitude, beautiful advice .
Will go see if he used the i.b.c. totes .
Good job on this vid.
He makes it sound like two giant leaps between his business and your hobby.
This is the best video I’ve seen with Ohio Joe, he has great knowledge and experience. Great choice to have him visit your woodyard, great ideas from both of you. 🇺🇸👍🏻👏🏻
2 main points Joe offered that are the key to success. The Customer and the workflow process for running you operation efficiently to get your optimal ROI. One thought for the trucks is making a backing lane for them to back into rather than a huge turn around area. I personally feel you would be losing to much space to create a turn around. jmo
Appreciate the information very much. Thank you for the very good advice.
Great video Adam, Joe has some very good points for the big picture..
Would love to hear what the truck drivers would think and add to that..
Great collaboration again! I just saw a video Sunday of you guys on Joe’s channel and figured you had one coming also.
High quality vid guys. Lots of info explained concisely while still being entertaining
Efficiency is key! The less hands on the wood, the more machinery, the better
Adam -- another wonderful job. I really like what you have done with the property and am looking forward to more work on the garage addition. Very well done!! Say hi to neighbor Doug!
Hey Adam what is the size of a cord that you guys are talking about. Thanks
A bunch to take in! What a jewel you were given. Good you have this recorded.
Thanks for the great video and advice! Can’t wait to see how your wood yard shapes up.
Love this video! Keep ones like this coming! Have a great day!
Hey Adam been watching you guys both for a few months the content you both put out has been such a huge help. Keep up the great work.
I'm a fan of you both , but I'm not sure if Joe has a full load 🙄 you guys together make it fun.
1st!!
It's nice seeing people of the same interest or source of income treat each other as friends instead of as competitors.
Hi Adam, very good video with Joe. Thought processes now save later relocation in the future.
Just a quick idea. . When you have raw logs come in, wouldnt it be efficient to set some old utility poles on the ground 1st, perpendicular to the "skid way"? That way you have the logs up and not getting muddy or water"logged" on the ground. Sorry for the pun but just a thought from one of your fans.👍
Yes we will probably do something like that. Thank you!
Contact Jessie! He's one heck of a log hauler!
Thank you for sharing great information with all of us.
Workflow is everything!
nice vid alot of good ideas move the drying area same direction closer to the bottom of the damn for a little more space .
One of the things I admire and respect about you, Adam. You know your limitations and you seek wise counsel from those with experience and knowledge. I have no doubt that when you get the whole process set up, it'll be clean and efficient.
@Hometown Acres Not sure if you've seen this account spoofing your logo and name.
Time for more fill dirt and topsoil stripping.
Lol
This a collab I didn’t know I needed!
That is a smart guy with both feets on the ground.
Love watching someone make a tidy neat sense of things
LOL
Joe is he new….
Never heard of him..
Adam you can make your ideas by useing joe ideas
Excellent! Len (Devon🇬🇧)
Say NO to cubicles!
There is an investment in any company!
Small quantities at a premium price is the way to go if you're a one man operation and you want to make some money without running yourself ragged. I started selling by the tractor bucket load that was just shy of a face cord. I was selling it way too cheap to start. I could hardly keep up with orders. I knew there had to be a better way to sell a quantity that was bigger than a bundle and was easily moved and delivered. I started selling wood in 55 gallon food grade barrels with removable lids. Each barrel holds approx 1/6th of a face cord and I sell it for $45 delivered. So I'm now getting $270 per face cord instead of $60-$100 which is the going rate in my area. I openly tell people that buying wood from me is not the cheapest way to go but it's dry, in a weather/bug/rodent proof container and it's delivered right to their back yard. No handling, no stacking, no hauling heavy bags home from the gas station and it's good hardwood split small for easy and complete burning. Dave
Joe is a processor! In mind and in action.
Super interesting video
Very interesting
2nd
I don't agree. "SMED" is the concept that you can go from species "A" to species "B" as fast as you can do two of the same. In your environment that would be the ability to dump off the processor or axis into different bins all set up. Each is removed, stacked, and replaced as they individually fill. But an intermediate setup area with the pick, turn, travel, drop, turn, travel... Repeating with the loading of the processor, is horrific at best, and give up at worst. Spend that "effort" making a diverter chute that can spin 270 degrees into a semi-circle off your processor.
Joe 👎
Why
@@HometownAcres started watching him year's ago and enjoyed it then lost interest because of things he has done same with Mike Morgan. Sorry
0:06 okay, a corporate job doesn't mean anything that could be IT. It could be accounts payable. It could be the CEO. It could be a whole lot of things. So what was Joe at that corporation exactly?
Why is he shaking and watching around so much? Is he on drugs?
Presuming this will grow into something more than a hobby, I'd invest in a wider live deck rather than wasting time cutting trees in half and then restacking prior to processing.
Anywhere where wheeled access is needed, there needs to be a solid all-weather base - maybe 6-8" of crushed aggregate over a geotextile fabric with properly-graded yard and access roads (crowns/slopes/drainage pipes etc). Nothing worse than being unable to work because your work area is a slippery mudhole mess (as is Joe's all-too-often). All-weather access is probably the most overlooked aspect of these types of outdoor businesses.
Perhaps the wrong person to ask about organization skills Adam!!
Why is that?
He doesn't seem to be well organized is all. I'm not saying he is a bad guy but he doesn't really seem like he knows what he is going to do next is all.
I love Joe's channel too. I really like it when youtubers appear on each others channels and help each other out. Keep up the great work both of you!