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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • Today we compare loose firewood to stacked firewood. Both in volume saved or/wasted as well as cost of storage IBC totes saved/wasted
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  • @HometownAcres
    @HometownAcres  Год назад +8

    More information on the Japa firewood processor
    www.metsamachines.com/our-products/japa-firewood-processors/

    • @G0ldmoon
      @G0ldmoon Год назад +2

      new totes are reusable, your maths applies to a 1 time purchase.
      additional maths to consider, is extra trips, for every 4 baskets you will be hauling a 5th now, it might be only a few mins, but its time and by your math time is indeed money.
      though loose stacking certainly is the way to go here.

    • @MrRebar15
      @MrRebar15 Год назад

      Get yourself some good looking bags & fill them up with the wood chips. Most folks pay good money for them, they're good for chicken coops. GOD Bless.

    • @user-tb9mg4md7d
      @user-tb9mg4md7d Год назад

      What a coincidence that youtube recommends me a video of someone from the states using "Made In Finland" product lol. Does it have many plastic parts, or do they still make everything here either from metal or wood? :D

  • @JustHazardous
    @JustHazardous Год назад +419

    I believe your labor vs. tote calc is off on the dollars because you will use the totes again and again for the original $400 You will have to stack again and again and again at a cost of 11 hours each time you stack the wood (based on the 50 tote example). So, for the first time you use the totes, $36.36/hour is the result, but the value of the tote increases each time you don't stack in it after that, so over time that tote will come down significantly in "hourly price"
    TBH - never understood why you were stacking in the totes to begin with.
    Loose piling with the totes is probably the most efficient drying you will get. Lots of small piles held a little bit off the ground- way to go! And as you noted, they are just going to get dumped into a trailer for delivery anyway.
    Love the channel Good luck!

    • @FormulaXFD
      @FormulaXFD Год назад +35

      Right. If one supposes the lifetime of a tote is 15 years, (15 seasons) - the annual cost of the 8 totes is $26.66. So then at 11 hours of labor, you'd be at $2.42/hr for stacking.

    • @nwngunner
      @nwngunner Год назад +41

      He also needs to consider, if he can put out more totes per hour then with stacking he is making additional income.

    • @rxfh
      @rxfh Год назад +25

      I came here to say this too. One time fixed cost - or at least until the things break and they are durable. Also he can churn out a lot more totes so if demand is ever higher than his output capacity with stacking, he's coming ahead there too.
      Not to mention the savings on your back!

    • @jasonbroom7147
      @jasonbroom7147 Год назад +3

      So much this!

    • @edjackson8425
      @edjackson8425 Год назад +24

      Also don’t cut out the side of future totes. They will hold a little more and not drop wood out when transporting as easily. (Plus another time saver not having to cut totes.😂)

  • @marcelw223
    @marcelw223 Год назад +154

    It would be interesting to do a moisture comparison. If you stack one and loose fill one to see if the loose fill one would dry faster because it has better air flow. If it does dry faster, that also lessens the turn around time providing that you have the sales for it. That's my 2 cents. 🧐

    • @advantagemarine7305
      @advantagemarine7305 Год назад +9

      It does dry faster when you loose fill. I never waste my time stacking wood, time is too precious.

    • @avenqer
      @avenqer Год назад

      Thought that as well...

    • @Hellsong89
      @Hellsong89 Год назад +4

      @@SimonWoodburyForget Where you got that idea? More end grain surface area visible for to sun to shine? Maybe that is the case but if you make it 3 rows stacked middle one gets barely any sunlight. When loose filled sun gets to center as well. Also turbulent airflow tends to pick up more moisture and heat from the surface than laminar flow of air. I do have time to stack but not enough energy to do so. Only ones that i stack are 1meter long ones witch two stacks can be put into one EUR pallet with its added 3 board strips and after drying those are cut into 30/70 peaces for our fireplace sizes. From what i have seen both are about fast to dry so i would not bother for stacking for next winters firewood. Only for extended storage.

    • @Ruudwardt
      @Ruudwardt Год назад +2

      Loose fill and stacking ratio is dependant on the container properties and the log size.
      In perfect model you would have no walls - a very large pile is close enough and in this case the ratio is about 0.7 to 1. In the tote packing the stacked way it appears to leave big gaps in the sides. This really depends on the log length.
      For drying purposes in the tote the loose way could be better but it is well known that in a large loose pile it dries slower and there is risk of mould developing in the inside.

    • @velianlodestone1249
      @velianlodestone1249 10 месяцев назад +1

      Same thought! If I had these I'd also put a tarp on them just to keep the top-down rain off.

  • @ProductiveRecreation
    @ProductiveRecreation Год назад +148

    The economics on not stacking are even better because the totes aren’t single use. They last for years… thus you save the time annually and don’t incur the cost annually. 😎. Nice operation! I like that swinging conveyor. Now you just need a second tractor so you never need to unhook the PTO 😆.

    • @PurpleCollarLife
      @PurpleCollarLife Год назад +2

      Great point!

    • @5sideK9
      @5sideK9 Год назад +12

      This was the first thing that popped into my mind as well.

    • @iancoates1799
      @iancoates1799 Год назад +4

      Use the digger to move the full totes out of the way and replace with empty ones. At the end of the day unhook PTO and move the totes to the drying area. Do it once and no extra tractor required.

    • @jacuzzibusguy
      @jacuzzibusguy Год назад +2

      @@PurpleCollarLife could also have a concrete pad and use a pallet Jack to move the totes by hand to a central staging area.

    • @avap2677
      @avap2677 Год назад

      @@5sideK9 Here the same !

  • @alexsc01
    @alexsc01 Год назад +12

    In Finland we have formulae between stacked and a thrown pile. 1m3 of thrown wood is 0.6 m3 stacked wood. And 1m3 of stacked wood equals 1.67 throw pile. Japa is a good machine! I have one from 2013. Made in Finland!

  • @lynnkhosla6277
    @lynnkhosla6277 Год назад +34

    Adam, I like the way you show us as you learn rather than figuring it out and then presenting the result. Makes for more interesting videos and is more inspirational. Thanks!

  • @MrIndyjoe
    @MrIndyjoe Год назад +25

    I like the way you analyze things. As a businessman, it is wise to be this way, but our time is out most previous commodity. We have a finite supply of that so anything done in processing wood that saves time makes sense usually, in my opinion.

  • @rthawker1
    @rthawker1 Год назад +103

    Two suggestions. 1. If you’re sticking with the no stack method then you don’t necessarily need to cut the opening in the totes if you’re just going to empty them into your trailer for delivery. Without the opening they should be able to fit a little more wood into them. 2. Instead of cutting the lids like shallow trays you could make them deeper to hold more sawdust and wood chips and just recess them into the ground a little.

    • @harrisonbuck2749
      @harrisonbuck2749 Год назад +3

      can repair the cuts with wire and hogwire

    • @danielrose1392
      @danielrose1392 10 месяцев назад +2

      Not cutting the totes also allows you to stack them. My firewood guy does this despite having plenty of space available. According to him the upper ones dry much better because they catch more wind.

    • @jasonthomas7414
      @jasonthomas7414 10 месяцев назад

      The whole video was abstract/subjective. Very smart!!

    • @merlecrandall1709
      @merlecrandall1709 10 месяцев назад +1

      Stacking is fine if you have nothing better to do and of course a much smaller volume. Working with wood is a lot of work anyways. It's mostly about looks comparing stacked vs piled freely.

    • @turtlezed
      @turtlezed 9 месяцев назад

      Or just put a sheet down to catch all the chip…🤷‍♂️

  • @e1ucas
    @e1ucas Год назад +12

    As a numbers guy, I really appreciate your analyses of cost and effort in the things you do. Also love the timber frame firewood stand. It's a gorgeous structure, and your mom's painting is beautiful.

    • @HometownAcres
      @HometownAcres  Год назад +1

      Thank you very much!

    • @alainthery5224
      @alainthery5224 Год назад +3

      Is the price for non-stacked totes reflecting the lower amount of firewood from stacked totes?

  • @josimon6229
    @josimon6229 Год назад +3

    This is the first video I've seen that really shows the output capacity of that processor and the conveyor, that thing is incredible.

  • @robert.brokaw3829
    @robert.brokaw3829 Год назад +1

    After watching you, Out Doors with the Morgans and Back 40 Firewood channels, I have always wondered why you stack the totes. Now you have answered my question and probably that of other watchers. Thanks. Stay safe.

  • @dalevinkle2549
    @dalevinkle2549 Год назад +7

    My thought Adam, If you are going to drop the wood in loose, I would not cut out part of the basket. I would cut that piece out to the bottom and find a way to hinge it so you could let it open as a gate when you dump into the trailer.

  • @nealoehme5682
    @nealoehme5682 Год назад

    Anything to save time and Make life easier and productivity faster is a win in my book

  • @johnglenn30csardas
    @johnglenn30csardas Год назад +21

    Also, just as others have pointed out that the 8 extra IBC totes are reused, thus amortizing their cost, the 11 hours of stacking time is also available repeatedly! So we’re talking about a huge opportunity cost of stacking. Each set of those 11 hours can be used for production further amortizing the extra cost of the totes. Assuming you have the demand for your product, this is a highly profitable virtuous circle. Good video!

    • @Flash1857
      @Flash1857 Год назад +1

      And the savings on your back is going to come in handy later

  • @kellydrolet4740
    @kellydrolet4740 Год назад +3

    Recommendation - try marketing your wood shavings/sawdust at pet stores and farm supply stores. This works well for bedding for rabbits, gerbils and chickens. I filled coffee cans and put in some diesel and sold as fire starter too.

  • @I-am-not-a-number
    @I-am-not-a-number Год назад +4

    You build really inspired me. I built my own shed with a shingle roof from old timber, it looks a lot like yours, so thanks.

  • @michaelbedell6523
    @michaelbedell6523 Год назад +3

    Just a suggestion from a retired banker to add 8” to your totes to allow loose stacking that would avoid having to re-stack the firewood. Possibly sacrificing a tote to be cut for 8” that are welded to the kept tote. Crunch the upfront expenses to future labor cost recovery. Thanks for sharing the journey

    • @jasone679
      @jasone679 Год назад +1

      If Adam loses 8" stacked volume then he would have to add more than 8" to make up for it when thrown in. Totes are galvanized which makes them ugly to weld, simpler to just use additional totes.

  • @williamjohnson5440
    @williamjohnson5440 Год назад +1

    there's also the consideration that you're only paying for the additional totes once, but saving time repeatedly.

  • @jason01095
    @jason01095 Год назад +13

    What a fantastic setup to begin with, and completely agree with going with the non-stacked approach based on your analysis, and especially given the amount of totes you already have in your operation. The time savings will be amazing as it compounds and totes re-used. I think I'd also put some sort of markers down on the ground where the three totes go so you don't have to even think about it when replacing them with empties.

  • @Johnbro8
    @Johnbro8 Год назад +7

    Amazing set up, in the UK some suppliers use dumpy 1ton bags, the only difference is ours are kiln dried logs, not seasoned logs. Suggestion for the sawdust, compressed will make burnable log bricks. But the kit to do that could be expensive, the other alternative is animal bedding, ie horses, cows, chickens etc. Good luck, lovely setup you have.

    • @surender4ify
      @surender4ify Год назад +1

      I was also going to suggest the animal bedding route

    • @Johnbro8
      @Johnbro8 Год назад

      There’s always the spit and sawdust saloon floor, but I can still remember it on the tiled floor of the butchers shop (UK 1950’s)😂😂

  • @ryanplatt2339
    @ryanplatt2339 10 месяцев назад

    That lady was super good at painting.

  • @andrewdow1609
    @andrewdow1609 10 месяцев назад

    You are on the right track. The only problem with loose stacking, is there is too much air space, and "that" customer will be along claiming you shorted him and he wants more wood or cash.
    Loose stacking seems WAY WAY more profitable, as you'll save a ton in labor, like you said.
    so the simple solution is to loose stack it about one foot above the top of the tote, and even throw in 5-8 extra pieces on top of that.
    No call-backs. no complaining. No Karens.

  • @MalawisLilleKanal
    @MalawisLilleKanal Год назад +1

    In stead of the lids, you can use some heavy duty tarp.
    If you always do it the same place, you could even make a concrete slab for the work area.

  • @bigbird8617
    @bigbird8617 9 месяцев назад

    The cost of the totes is based off of reusing them as long as nothing happens to them. Love the channel.

  • @cybrcow
    @cybrcow Год назад +1

    Another thought, the plant I work in throws away those totes and also a ton of wooden crates (think of a 4' pallet, but cubed). I've been looking for someone to take them away for free that has a use. We are nowhere near you, but now I'm going to call the closest firewood guy.

  • @giammira
    @giammira 10 месяцев назад +1

    If I could I''d move to such a place, not only nice looking but where all people are so honest and respectful not to steal both the firewood and the money box within 4 hours

  • @ferencszabo3504
    @ferencszabo3504 10 месяцев назад

    This is probably the best setup for one man band operation, EVER!

  • @WinterWoodLife
    @WinterWoodLife 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was a great video for me at the right time. I'm just getting started in firewood and I've been debating how I want to store the wood for the next year (pallet rows, pallet bins, IBC's) so thank you for this...your math helped me to consider the differences.

  • @AllenFamilyFirewood
    @AllenFamilyFirewood Год назад

    Very nice job explaining the ins an outs of stacking vs not stacking an having the math to back it up . We stack everything but now ya got me thinking

  • @David_Jackson.
    @David_Jackson. 3 месяца назад

    If you turn your totes 90°, you will have a wider area to aim at with the slew. And you can put them really close together, so that the back of one will work as a form against the open side of the next tote. Also. I LOVE the videos!

  • @retiredlife848
    @retiredlife848 Год назад +1

    That is one nice looking firewood stand you have. Your mother does a excellent job lettering too! I wish I were as talented.

  • @michaela3562
    @michaela3562 Год назад +1

    Another great video, thank you Adam.

  • @janking2762
    @janking2762 Год назад

    I’m very impressed by your thorough work on how to to “work smarter, not harder.” I cut and burn firewood for home use, so, a very different scale, but might be of interest to your viewers. We block and split 2-3 cords per year. Anything over 20% moisture is stacked on racks outside, anything under 20% is stacked in Gaylord boxes ($10.00 each locally, hold 1/4 cord hardwood) which are moved under cover ( into a barn) with the subcompact tractor 3 point hitch pallet lifter. The outside stuff seasons, then goes into new Gaylords in the fall, delivered directly onto the covered deck, along with the barn wood. Goes into the house (10 ft.) in 32 gallon plastic tubs. The big improvement was moving the wood 1/4 cord per trip, instead of in tractor bucket loads, not having to restack on the the deck and not having to rebuild wood bins on the deck. A rough estimate would be 50% time and labor saving.

  • @judge058
    @judge058 Год назад +5

    One thing to consider when calculating cost/expense ratio and your hourly rate of stacking vs the cost of the totes. Your calculations are accurate if the totes were only used one time. Every time you refill those totes that hourly rate gets cut in half.

  • @jimkanzelmeyer7722
    @jimkanzelmeyer7722 10 месяцев назад

    Your setup is impressive sir. I see efficiency everywhere in your operation. Amazing what a little time, money, creativity, and good old-fashioned labor can accomplish.

  • @cmotto.1
    @cmotto.1 11 месяцев назад

    This beautiful set up makes a Californian want to leave the desk job and start choppin wood!

  • @MrHubertNguyen
    @MrHubertNguyen 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome firewood operations that you have there.

  • @thomasgreene5750
    @thomasgreene5750 Год назад +11

    For your slash and sawdust collectors, you might consider cutting the bladder-bottom walls a little higher on the back and sides to better capture the material and screwing the bottoms down to a wooden pallet to make them easier to move around after being loaded.

  • @fishingwithvance
    @fishingwithvance 10 месяцев назад

    Enjoyed the video. That machine is pretty sweet splitting logs. Good stuff.

  • @ebony5766
    @ebony5766 Год назад

    I really enjoyed your analytical thought process to justify the change! Great business model.

  • @jamessmith7691
    @jamessmith7691 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing your good business sense.

  • @jessechaskey7205
    @jessechaskey7205 Год назад

    I will keep stacking my firewood thanks. It don't rot, get moldy and it looks better. Keep doing you bud

  • @davidevans3175
    @davidevans3175 Год назад +1

    Also the dumped IBC tote has better air circulation, wood will dry faster.

  • @judithclever1103
    @judithclever1103 Год назад +1

    Nice job Mom!

  • @nicholascooper1193
    @nicholascooper1193 Год назад +2

    Good analysis of your operation. I geek out on numbers also.
    I get totes for free, I have a slowish box store style splitter with no conveyor, so I stack directly into the tote as I split.
    I sell in small quantites- delivery only (usually about 1/2 tote)
    and I like the way stacked wood looks better :D

  • @KP-sg9fm
    @KP-sg9fm Год назад

    "I want to make my purchasing decision before I pull in"
    Plus all the math you did on the stacking / non-stacking processes
    easiest sub i've ever done

  • @popshoran5146
    @popshoran5146 Год назад +1

    Great job with the channel and all the various topics you cover. I do miss the simple banjo picking music from the older videos..

  • @Chris-op7yt
    @Chris-op7yt 10 месяцев назад

    very smart math, including labor costs. a lot of people dont realize how much back pain they automatically take on, for sometimes minimum value.

  • @grattonland
    @grattonland Год назад

    I like that you explain the math on how to determine if it makes sense to stack or not. It will depend as you well explained.

  • @jessel8833
    @jessel8833 Год назад

    Thanks for the updates on the channel brother. These videos are important for many folks to watch. You are doing the "R & D", lol. But, seriously, these numbers are super important. What you want to make in profits overall. What it costs you to process, stack, dry, load, unload, deliver, ect....What are you wanting to pay yourself (how much are you worth; per hour, per day) -- Conversely, if you have helpers, what are they worth per hour, per day??
    You work to live. You want to avoid trading your hours for specific fixed costs if you can help it, because you should always be worth more & this is hard labor, no matter what machines & equipment you have assisting you. However, you are most likely also getting a great work out (if you work smart) & utilizing machines to get maximum efficiency out of them (cost per hour per unit over more use). Plus, if you're like Adam, or I, or many other youtuber folks, this is also a passion, which should not be discounted in the factoring. But, that's more of a plus.
    Many factors to consider in balancing profits, productivity, happiness. Good luck & stay safe out there.

  • @ginojaco
    @ginojaco 10 месяцев назад +1

    You pay for your extra totes once, yet you save the time every time you fill them... easy sum. 👍

  • @heikowalter8239
    @heikowalter8239 Год назад

    Time is money ,thats right ! And 17% is not much space to loos !👍 This splitt Maschine is very nice !

  • @deranocasper
    @deranocasper Месяц назад

    Cheers lad I am in ireland. I bought two Inc's 10 quid each I have three now there brilliant for drying your logs

  • @DanKlein_1
    @DanKlein_1 Год назад +1

    perfect setup for a conveyer system like you have. I don't have a conveyor system and I think you still make a valid point. It is faster to pull the split pieces off the splitter table and throw into a tote vs stacking. Also, I could overfill the ibc tote like you showed in the picture from another channel and not really lose any volume unstacked vs stacked.

  • @wingwhacker7500
    @wingwhacker7500 Год назад +1

    I learned from selling firewood when I was a kid that it is all about reducing the amount of labor. The old joke of how many times does cutting firewood warm you really made me think back then. Efficiency is the key. Using tractors, conveyors, and other equipment is, of course, how you fight inefficiency.

    • @gordbaker896
      @gordbaker896 Год назад

      Wood warms you 4 times from tree to stove.

  • @Rizzymo88
    @Rizzymo88 Год назад +1

    theres a firewood supplier that uses ibc totes and he takes the plastic cut in half diagonally (top left corner to bottom right) to make rain guards that sit on top. looks like a small pitched roof.

  • @CuriousEarthMan
    @CuriousEarthMan Год назад

    Every time you re-use the totes, your labor savings increase....4 reuses cost 1/4 the original labor, for example, reduced by any repairs required.
    I would place the totes on something for drying...railroad tie chunks or cement blocks for better air flow underneath, maybe fewer insects too.
    I would work on something for moving full totes out of the way and bringing new ones in at the processor: a salvaged conveyor to move totes sideways, or a wagon that holds some totes, which a lawn tractor could pull out and pull a new one in, etc. Several yard carts save time in moving totes to drying area too. How you have it works fine though too! Extending takeoff conveyor or adding a stacking section could broaden semi-circle to 6 or more totes.
    I would have thought unstacked holds 60% of stacked....just like my old pickup bed used to lol Thank you!

  • @earlzathome
    @earlzathome Год назад +2

    One thing you didn't mention was that stacked an IBC tote holds 1 face cord exactly. Unstacked you're going to have to guess more as taking out .83 of a face cord each tote is going to be a bit tougher to calculate.....just a thought!

    • @HometownAcres
      @HometownAcres  Год назад +2

      I would just reduce the price by 17%

    • @earlzathome
      @earlzathome Год назад

      @@HometownAcres Fair enough...I guess once customers got used to that it would def work! I know most of my customers want a specific amount of wood as they know how much they use/go through. Hope it works out for you as it is a real time saver!

  • @DudeRanchDIY
    @DudeRanchDIY Год назад

    Thanks for the shout out Adam, not stacking, is definitely the way to go!

  • @johnblyth9787
    @johnblyth9787 Год назад

    Wow you have a good set up going. My brother and I in about 1968 got up Super early on Saturday to try to split a 12 tone load of wood our father brought in on his truck. We thought we could do it all in a day. Dads reply, if you get it all done I will give you $10 each. He knew his money was safe. I can't remember, but we may have done a tone or more. Not bad for two boys about 12 years of age.
    Way I see it with stacking V loose. Loose you save 13 minuets and 10% less wood. Loose has to be the way to go. Once you have the cages you can reuse many times.

  • @Vazzini42
    @Vazzini42 9 месяцев назад +1

    You could easily make bricks out of all that sawdust. The poly bins from the inc's would make good mixing tubs. Alternately could run it through a pelletizer to crank out bags of pellets.

  • @donnellykieranj
    @donnellykieranj Год назад +1

    I did a similar experiment myself with my firewood. Roughly a 20% space saving by stacking and because I have loads of IBCs so stacking for me is in no way worth the extra hassle and labour. I'm very fortunate though as I get my IBCs for free

  • @scottburk4083
    @scottburk4083 Год назад

    Work smarter not harder!!!
    Have a great day Adam,God Bless you and yours!!!❤😊

  • @RooibaardBoerseun
    @RooibaardBoerseun Год назад +1

    This will never work around where I live. That wood will be gone including the stand and whatever money there probably wasn’t anyway. It wouldn’t last a day 😂!!
    In a perfect world this sounds amazing though.. ❤

  • @utetopia1620
    @utetopia1620 Год назад

    I can give you the perspective from Australia.
    We have laws governing how firewood is sold.
    You can sell it "By the load", for example "This trailer load, as is, for $300"
    You can sell it by the tonne, in which case, it doesn't matter what volume it makes up, as long as the weight is correct.
    Or, if you sell by the cubic metre (ie: Redgum is about $150 a cubic metre), you MUST deliver it stacked, with as few gaps as possible. Failure to do this can result in a half million dollar fine. So if you're selling it by volume, stack neat, and wear that $30ph stacking time.

  • @Riverguide33
    @Riverguide33 Год назад

    Mom’s lettering is awesome! 👍

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248 Год назад

    Add parking lot bumpers so it's easy and repeatable tote placement. Search local used market for an antique Ford N-series tractor (or Farmall, AC, etc) to be your PTO machine. Even if you pay a local mechanic to improve reliability on a restored-grade-find or get a 'junker' refurbished to run again you'll free up your new bucket tractor to do everything you need it to. Depending on area and condition you'll spend $500-$2,500.

  • @danielbuffington2041
    @danielbuffington2041 5 месяцев назад

    As a firewood customer. If I was driving by 2 seperate properties that both sold firewood and saw one stacked and the other loosely thrown in the bin. I would be stopping at the the one with the stacked wood. It shows a person willing to take the time to do the extra work. Something people have forgotten about. That was one thing my dad taught was if you are willing to show the extra it helps secure a customer rather then having them be someone who goes to someone else you'll be first on their mind no matter what. Stack the wood. If you stack shorting your customers they'll start looking for other options.

  • @davidcheek3026
    @davidcheek3026 Год назад +2

    I like how you bring in your financial analysis skills to resolve whether you should stack or loose fill off the Japa, Adam. Brad at Firewood at the Furnace paid you a compliment on your Firewood Roadstand "mansion". It does look very professional and will serve you for many years.

  • @outdoorswithlarryrobin
    @outdoorswithlarryrobin Год назад

    Hello Adam, We never stack totes, even have a video of filling a shipping container with them, Really nice work in the firewood stand 👏🪵🇺🇸

  • @wolcottfamilyworks
    @wolcottfamilyworks Год назад +13

    Adam, it also might save a little time consumed during the modification process of the IBC totes. If you don't do the cutout it also might prevent the 1 stick from falling out although it might make dumping the totes more challenging.

  • @yachtwork
    @yachtwork Год назад

    Well explained. Thanks for posting.

  • @iguanaamphibioustruck7352
    @iguanaamphibioustruck7352 11 месяцев назад

    I buy my rounds, assortment of sizes and types in bulk, dumped on the ground. I use a wheel barrow or hand truck for a down hill, 50 foot, haul to the barn. I sit on a round with cushion and load the splitter using my shoulders and knees. I throw the split pieces on a pile and occasionally move the splitter. I have a shelf between me and the splitter to keep the wood pieces from falling on my toes and another shelf on the far side to store the splits. My splitter is probably 50 years old. The Cat cylinder is 5X36 with trunion mount and heavy rod. I replaced the 12 hp Briggs with a 15 hp Duromax with starter. The engine drives a Vee belt with a 4:1 ration to a Jack shaft that is coupled to an aluminum gear pump. I have a plain 4way, 3 position valve with built in relief which I set intentionally high so if I screw up and fail to stop the cylinder before end of stroke it kills the engine. The reservoir is tall and thin with baffle. It runs cool and without cavitation. I worked in hydraulics as an applications engineer for 25 years. I have a degree in Industrial Eng. I am 88 years old and me and my splitter appreciate each other. The engine runs comfortable I can split my big double wheel barrow full of rounds in about a half hour. I get around 5 cords of split wood from 3 cords of rounds. We have a heat pump for the house but like the fire in the air tight stove with glass door for the evenings. Most of the wood I see on RUclips should go to lumber, not firewood. We use Fir, Spruce, Hemlock and Alder. Most of the rounds come from what is left after clear cutting a section that goes to three lumber mills within 20 miles from town or to the port of Astoria *(80 miles). Fir is best for lots of heat with very little ash. Alder is good for steaks on the bonfire. My wood supplier, Frank and I are good friends and appreciate each other. On big rounds over 2 feet he cuts them in halves or thirds with the chain saw. I thought I had seen a lot of splitters in my work but nothing compared to RUclips
    I like the set up on your splitter system especially the drop on the cut off saw.
    Iguana

  • @markanderhalt1309
    @markanderhalt1309 Год назад

    Adam you need a conveyor chip system to collect your saw dust and chaff, that saw dust is money also for mulch around blue berries and other trees needing acid soil!

  • @pennyt4020
    @pennyt4020 Год назад

    Check out "In The Woodyard". He is now just putting his wood in big piles on pallets. It's working very well for him. You have alot of room for just piles. You would be saving on so many IBC totes. Then you could just load one up if you need to make a delivery. Just a thought. Love you are now doing this full time. Good for you!!!

  • @MarcEsadrian
    @MarcEsadrian 10 месяцев назад

    It was therapeutic watching this.

  • @brucemitchell5637
    @brucemitchell5637 Год назад +36

    One thing you failed to mention is that if you're stacking you have to keep stopping cutting logs and go over to the tote and stacking then repeat vs. Just being able to keep cutting logs.

    • @greggmcclelland8430
      @greggmcclelland8430 Год назад +2

      More firewood goes through the processor in a year, and that in turn lowers the depreciation cost per cord. Lowering your costs allows you to produce more with the same overall labor cost. But as you increase the supply, more of your time will go to marketing and delivery.

    • @jt1610
      @jt1610 Год назад +6

      That’s 11 hours every 50 totes Vs the one time cost of the extra 8 totes. No way stacking saves money/time.

  • @davidfarley6244
    @davidfarley6244 Год назад

    Love your analytics! Knowledge is power.

  • @teropiispala2576
    @teropiispala2576 Год назад

    I've been drying my wood in rebar mesh cages for over 20 years and they as still as good as new. Rust protects them from rusting.
    Back then, I paid about 10€ per each as a material and used about10-15 min per each for cutting and welding. They are round and have bottom and they work well.

  • @themarkfunction
    @themarkfunction Год назад

    Well done! Every efficiency counts in keeping a small business running well.
    You might next look at building something like a shallow bowl/tray to catch all that sawdust. Make it wider than the IBC lid and put some forklift pockets on the bottom. At the end of the day's work, pick the whole thing up at once and heft it to disposal.

  • @Taylzz
    @Taylzz Год назад

    That splitter is a magic worker..

  • @rstlr73
    @rstlr73 Год назад +1

    I've been burning wood for years , I quit stacking a long time ago . Space for me isn't an issue though .

  • @billh2735
    @billh2735 Год назад

    Adam, working smarter not harder is always the best answer. This is a very interesting video. Bill H from Cranberry Township

  • @MrChrissy1r
    @MrChrissy1r Год назад

    I had a joinery and woomill shop in an old chick breeding shed, at first heating was a problem as I react badly to liquid and gas heaters however well ventilated, so I bought a wood/wood chip burner , that was perfect lovely kind of heat and got rid of all of my waste.. Particularly impressed with the woodchip and sawdust burning. I filled to the brim, compress it and top up, light the top and that would slow burn nice and warm for around 24 hours, the actual wood burner was just a metal cylinder 24 inches tall and 16 inches diameter, on 4 inch legs, fed from the top it had a tube from a controlled opening at the top which went to the bottom inside, two little flaps controlled the tube and the top, once I got the hang of using it , it was the very best investment heat wise I could have made, free heat in quite a large workshop.

  • @bmwbaker
    @bmwbaker Год назад +1

    Adam, another very enjoyable video. I think one or two American flags on the roadside stand would draw attention and really dress up the stand. I’ve been a carpenter all my life and want to say bravo on the construction of your stand.

  • @DaveSchneible-sg3bs
    @DaveSchneible-sg3bs Год назад

    I use a 1"x6" board across the opening I have cut out my totes. It holds the wood in, and you can slide it out for better access if you're filling your wood boxes.

  • @thelog86
    @thelog86 9 месяцев назад

    Good job efficiency is the name of the game

  • @rickaser2383
    @rickaser2383 Год назад +1

    Might try the idea of making a small basket or tray from the IBC tote liner. instead of just the lid, cut the liner off at the same height as the saw chip exhaust port; and if you could somehow hook a vacuum source to the tote liner, you could fill it even higher with chips; drawn in by the negative pressure.

    • @kemuelchapman3832
      @kemuelchapman3832 Год назад

      I was thinking the same thing! 👍

    • @kemuelchapman3832
      @kemuelchapman3832 Год назад

      Additionally, pile the bark/scraps to lay down in your trails…might as well use everything full circle ♻️.

  • @jasonhughes638
    @jasonhughes638 Год назад +6

    Amazing setup Adam, it would be great to see if you could do a comparison/ retrospective video from where you were a few years back with the firewood vs today. As a long time watcher I’d be very interested!

    • @nickf5862
      @nickf5862 Год назад +2

      Great idea I saw a video pop up from two years ago titled "final piece of the dream firewood making list" or something similar and I thought oh how things have changed.

    • @oldguyfirewood
      @oldguyfirewood Год назад +4

      If I ever get a conveyor I’ll be doing the same thing right off the splitter. I’m all about eliminating touches. I’d like to see a study on drying time for stacked vs. loose. Intuitively it seems loose would dry quicker but I’d love to see actual data.

    • @njonebale7889
      @njonebale7889 Год назад

      He’s not much better off, he had half the baskets he has now…I’m calculating a 100/ basket, he’s making a extra 2500 for the season…and I never knew you actually paid for the baskets so…minus…them….he’s not making any money it seems…lol!

    • @buttonmonkey6845
      @buttonmonkey6845 Год назад +1

      @@njonebale7889 baskets are reusable so may do 15 years? But are only paid for once.

  • @stephenniese2541
    @stephenniese2541 Год назад +1

    If you run out of totes check out the way chris from in the wood yard stores and drys his firewood.

  • @makieks
    @makieks Год назад

    You could get a forklift attachment to your excavator to move the IBC totes while the tractor is attached to the JAPA.

  • @daleroley5185
    @daleroley5185 Год назад

    Great Job! use a face cord bag they hold about 60 cubic feet which stacked out is abou 43 cubic feet on a pallet super easy about 15 bucks a bag, losse stacking drys about 20% faster then stacked. Great Job!

  • @dubrd5926
    @dubrd5926 Год назад

    One additional advantage of not stacking the wood is that the extra air space created by not stacking will help to dry the wood faster.

  • @fxpestoperator5527
    @fxpestoperator5527 11 месяцев назад

    Amazing job Brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jayejaycurry5485
    @jayejaycurry5485 Год назад +1

    Don't forget to factor in that you only buy totes once. By not stacking the wood, you save the same amount each time you fill the totes. Of course, I am assuming your totes aren't being used just once.

  • @SVRANDGLD
    @SVRANDGLD Год назад

    There's no accurate value you can place on time saved. Anything you can do to save time is worth doing. Time is creative energy that can't be replaced, it's priceless.

  • @Redpitdog
    @Redpitdog Год назад

    I order my wood delivered & Stacked. So I can measure it against Cord measurements at $200 per cord rate stacked. I prorate +/- depending on the measurements. Stacking is the best presentation of your product.

  • @NordicDan
    @NordicDan 10 месяцев назад

    8:10 that is so insanely satisfying to watch.....

  • @johnneufeld9539
    @johnneufeld9539 Год назад +1

    Hey Adam, i think if you position the totes correctly you could fill six of them at a time. Worth a try anyway.
    Keep it up!

  • @oakrunacres2564
    @oakrunacres2564 Год назад +11

    If you really want to make sure wood doesn't fall out during transport and get a little more in each basket take the piece that you cut out of the front. Flip it over and zip-tie the top rail back onto the bottom of the cut out. It will now hinge like a door. Use a bungy cord or twine to secure it in place. I would say by doing this and overfilling the basket a bit you'll get back a large percentage of the volume that you lost from not stacking it. It's a little extra work initially but once it's done it's done. Dave