90’s n 2000’s Texas was untouchable when it came to creativity and originality. Too bad we couldn’t stay United when the majors were fucking with us. Too much beefing and jealousy going on. So Atlanta got our shine.
It's crazy that we never even got a Pat interview. That boy died a split second before he blew up. Can't even imagine how different ish would be if Pat and Screw was still here. I'm from Austin but we went through everything that Houston went through. Nii$$as in Austin dont wanna admit it but Houston was our big brother. SUC was the biggest movement to ever come out of Texas. It changed the WHOLE culture. 🤘🏾💪🏾
@@kendrickdawson1053 naw real spill. I remember a time when it wasn't even cool to be riding around bumping anything that wasn't from Houston. Rap A Lot made their footprint but SUC put Texas on the map!!!
@@whartontex8480 real talk my G.... I remember walking the streets of SOUTH EAST like 10 deep at 13 yrs old everybody draped in blue. Laws too scared to do shit. i love the 90's.. Generation X
Stay jammin it....till the casket drop. Jealousy and envy and just plain ol’ HATE took those brothers life.....keep the music alive!!! It’s TEXAS all day everyday!
I got chills at the end of this documentary this the last song Big Pokey heard before he passed away he requested Pat and they played this 😢 fly high Pat and Big Pokey 😢 6/18/23
The first time i heard this song i was on acid in west oakland, around 3 am in my friends car. A cracked out pimp c-walked to the corner of Market St, dressed in fresh white adidas and checked the spot. He walked back up the block and looked at us hard. I saw in the rearview mirror he was aiming his glock at us both for about a minute, and my friend saw it too so I knew I wasnt tripping... But all night until past sunrise no matter where we went I kept imagining the same fool followed us and we were going to get shot. My friend remained calm about it although we ate the same amount. 16 years later I finally know who Fat Pat is the man who made the track
MANNN!! 💔😢💔🤦🏾♀️ REST IN PEACE 🙏🏾🕊️🤍🕊️🙏🏾 Fat Pat. One of the original SUC members. It breaks my heart like I knew them, from listening to their music. We've lost SOOO MANY SUC members.. 🤘🏾💙🤘🏾
RIP MR FAT PAT .. GATOR OFF BOTNAY .. RIP HAWK .. RIP BIG MOE .. RIP MACC GRACE .. RIP BIG STEVE .. RIP PIMP C .. RIP MR 3-2 .. RIP BIG MELLO .. FREE SOUTH PARK MEXICAN .. FREE PHARAOH FROM STREET MILITARY ... RIP THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS SOUND AN CULTURE OF THIS TX MUSIC SCENE ... DJ SCREW .. EVERYBODY I NAMED ARE TX LEGENDS AN ARE MYTHS .. REAL KINGZ .. I LOVE HTOWN .. SCREWED UP CLICK IS THE BEST GROUP OF ALL TIME AN THE BEST SOLO ARTISTS AS WELL ...VERY SPECIAL .. SO TALENTED ... TRENDSETTERS .. LYRICALLY SMOOTH .. STREET GUYZ WHO WHERE AN STILL AHEAD OF THEY TIME .. AN IM FROM DALLAS TX .. SOUTH SIDE OAK CLIFF .. SINGING HILLZ TX .. I GREW UP ON S.U.C. AN THE OTHER ARTISTS FROM HTOWN .. SWISHA HOUSE .. BOSTON GEORGE .. THE SAUCE FACTORY .. GETO BOYZ .. STREET MILITARY .. KIRKO BANGZ .. K-RHINO .. SCARFACE N GETO BOYZ .. SAUVE HOUSE RECORDS .. TRAVIS SCOTT .. OG RON C .. I MEAN THEN DALLAS WE GOT MR POOKIE AN MR LUCCI .. BIG TUCK AN THE DSR FAMILY .. RALLY BOYZ .. BO-LEGG AN THE STAMPEDE BOYZ .. GATOR MAINE .. APOSTLE PAW .. LIONS DENS RECORDS .. QUINTON FOXX .. UNO LOSO .. SEVEN THE GREAT . ACE BOOGIE .. JJ PRINCE .. TRAP BOY FREDDY .. CFN DINERO MONEY .. YELLA BEZZY .. SLEEZY BEZZY .. RONNY MF .. POOKIE LEROY .. JB FROM DA NAWF .. MAN THEN AUSTIN GOT NIGGAZ N SAN ANTONIO ... S/O TO THE WHOLE STATE OF TX .. WE PUTTIN ON .. THE RAP GAME STOLE OUR WHOLE RAP SWAGG AN LINGO AN DRUG CULTURE .. THEY STOLE EVERYTHING .. SCREWED UP HOOKS NOW .. SCREWED UP VIDEOS .. TALKING BOUT SYRUP .. TALKING BOUT CANDY ON CARS .. TALKING BOUT XANS AKA HANDLE BARS .. WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DESIGNER CLOTHES .. BIG POKEY BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOPE .. BIG.. PIMP C .. MOE .. RONNIE SPENCER .. ZRO .. TRAE .. BILLY COOK .. THEY BEEN RAPPING AN SINGING .. Z-RO MAKE BEATS .. PAULL WALL KNOW HOW TO DJ .. PIMP C MAKE BEATS .. SCARFACE MAKES BEATS .. THE SOUTH WE BEEN THE SHIT .. PAY HOMAGE TO TX AN LOUISIANA .. ARKANSAS .. TENNESSEE .. FLORIDA .. ALABAMA .. THE CAROLINAS .. GEORGIA ... DONT FORGET MISSISSIPPI .. AN S/O TO CALI .. N MIDWEST CHICAGO .. DETROIT .. ST LOUIS .. MILWAUKEE .. NEBRASKA .. INDIANA .. LOVE YALL
I remember as a 10 year old boy back in 1998 hearing 25 lighters. not knowing lil keke and fat pat was the dudes behind it until I got older and understood TX culture.
The Texas cats from this time and era shaped so much of my music tastes over the years. Pat and Hawk and SUC all of them are legends forever. Cannot forget Pimp and Moe. Rest in Power to some true kings.
That hurt me when Pat got hurt,,, I remember all the times they got together at Big Nose apt they would be down there rapping together... n Big Nose dad (Big Luke) used to mess with Blunt (Corey) about parking his car over n the apt parking lot... those were the days Big Nose used to threaten my baby with his iguana bcuz he said (THATS WHO HE MAKING ALL THAT NOISE) n he always said LOOKING LIKE UR DADDY!!! MISS Y’ALL
SOOO glad 🤗😊🤗 I ran across this channel. Thank you... I'm so glad you have this documented on your channel, especially for those of us that weren't even born yet, but LOVE the SUC. 🤞🏾💙🤞🏾
Man screw and all these cliques are legendary, not only influence rap but music altogether. Every genre has had the pitched down vocal in a song somewhere for the last 20 years or so.
Maaannn hol up... This here started my base and helped mold me into to rapper I am today... Use to walk down Antoine, Gessner, longpoint with my Walkman on boost rapping these tracks out loud pissing off the public... Not one fuk giving...
So.. that was Pat red ass Lincoln at the beach (obviously) but was that Lexus his too? And that Keke lac by that Lexus? What year was that? Who else from the SUC slab was shown on here?
PAT One 1 of tha realest on tha planet to touch tha Mic an BROKE That Thang RIP Screw An all Tha Real Gs"How We Miss Our Gs Every Night All I Do Is Hope N Pray#RNT ENT #TEXAS SHIT
Its not very much pat footage he died before people really started to understand the value of video footage and content . There's barely any footage of screw fortunately he started to do more interviews the last 2 years of his life
My name is Freddy salazar from abilene tx. I lived in austin in the late 80'$ early 90'$.. every since I've bang screw the rest of my life. I'm 40 yr$ ant going stop till my casket is dropped. Thank to all the trendsetters who made it happen l,where the world doughted ya.we just do thing diffrent here in texas.show must go on you feel me and if they like it . O well take a number.
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Houston in the 90s was a thing of beauty. It was an era that can never be duplicated. True playa shit. We created our own culture.
90’s n 2000’s Texas was untouchable when it came to creativity and originality. Too bad we couldn’t stay United when the majors were fucking with us. Too much beefing and jealousy going on. So Atlanta got our shine.
Him and all of the other pioneers in the Houston rap game make me so proud to be from Texas
@@rileylance5776 it’s probably a virus
Me too nathan
Big facts 💯
I bet, dey did dat!!!!!
💯
It's crazy that we never even got a Pat interview. That boy died a split second before he blew up. Can't even imagine how different ish would be if Pat and Screw was still here. I'm from Austin but we went through everything that Houston went through. Nii$$as in Austin dont wanna admit it but Houston was our big brother. SUC was the biggest movement to ever come out of Texas. It changed the WHOLE culture. 🤘🏾💪🏾
I'm from Dallas but I feel you bro.. Everybody in TX at that time was listening to htown artists.. We didn't have many artists in Dallas at that time.
htown is the core of TX culture.
And I'm from Dallas.. Oak cliff side of town
@@kendrickdawson1053 naw real spill. I remember a time when it wasn't even cool to be riding around bumping anything that wasn't from Houston. Rap A Lot made their footprint but SUC put Texas on the map!!!
I’d be the happiest 15 yr old alive if I was old enough to experience houston in the late 90’s early 00’s
Man lil homie words can't express the way it was the best times of my life I wish we can both go back
There was nothing like H TOWN in 90's.. The 90's went HARD AF
@@whartontex8480 real talk my G.... I remember walking the streets of SOUTH EAST like 10 deep at 13 yrs old everybody draped in blue. Laws too scared to do shit. i love the 90's.. Generation X
SOUTHSIFIL
What Wonderful Filling Mann Hold Up #RNT ENT#TEXAS SHIT
That boy is truly missed in this rap game mane. I would jam that PAT all-day everyday before I listen to this new shit
Rick Brown i still do..RIP PAT..he was ahead of his time
Stay jammin it....till the casket drop. Jealousy and envy and just plain ol’ HATE took those brothers life.....keep the music alive!!! It’s TEXAS all day everyday!
Same here bro
F A T
P A T
( VOiCE )
" MANNNNNNNNNN HOL UUUUP "
Everything was better in the late 90’s early 00’s, the south, east coast, west. Just a whole vibe back inna day
Back when rap was full of soul
True nathan
I got chills at the end of this documentary this the last song Big Pokey heard before he passed away he requested Pat and they played this 😢 fly high Pat and Big Pokey 😢 6/18/23
Definitely chills.
@@choosesfr Still get chills 🥲
What’s the name of the song?
@@jesustoro9493 Tops Drop By Fat Pat
Feel ya
Whole world still loving you PAT
Mannne hold up top still dropping in 2017 thru 2018 R.I.P to that Legend Fat Pat
RIP FAT PAT
Man I miss the 90s😔🤘🏾4Life
The hardest click ever bet sum rip to all of members h tine we been hard and go stay hard microphone wreckers 💙💪💯
Wreckshop please re-release these on dvd. Thanks for the post.
Screw is an icon. Influenced music forever.
We listen to Fat Pat and Big H.A.W.K heavy Louisiana
Still jamming, Til the death of me🤞🏾this my era of music it can’t get no better💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Some of the Greatest to ever do it, and still doing it!!!
R.I.P FAT PAT Houston Texas Legend We Miss You, And You Will Be Missed Shout Out To Tha Screwed Up Click
The first time i heard this song i was on acid in west oakland, around 3 am in my friends car.
A cracked out pimp c-walked to the corner of Market St, dressed in fresh white adidas and checked the spot. He walked back up the block and looked at us hard. I saw in the rearview mirror he was aiming his glock at us both for about a minute, and my friend saw it too so I knew I wasnt tripping... But all night until past sunrise no matter where we went I kept imagining the same fool followed us and we were going to get shot. My friend remained calm about it although we ate the same amount.
16 years later I finally know who Fat Pat is the man who made the track
I'm from South Carolina and Fat Pat make me proud
MANNN!! 💔😢💔🤦🏾♀️
REST IN PEACE 🙏🏾🕊️🤍🕊️🙏🏾 Fat Pat. One of the original SUC members. It breaks my heart like I knew them, from listening to their music. We've lost SOOO MANY SUC members.. 🤘🏾💙🤘🏾
Good to see that people still supportin the real even in 2k18, R.I.P. to all the fallen soldiers mayn
Love these Boyz Legendary like Tupac but from the "SOUTH"Stil Wreckin" in 2020
Chicago Born but southern based 💯R.I.P. FAT PAT
Cyruss_J I'm happy to see a person from the east side support us Texans
RIP MR FAT PAT .. GATOR OFF BOTNAY .. RIP HAWK .. RIP BIG MOE .. RIP MACC GRACE .. RIP BIG STEVE .. RIP PIMP C .. RIP MR 3-2 .. RIP BIG MELLO .. FREE SOUTH PARK MEXICAN .. FREE PHARAOH FROM STREET MILITARY ... RIP THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS SOUND AN CULTURE OF THIS TX MUSIC SCENE ... DJ SCREW .. EVERYBODY I NAMED ARE TX LEGENDS AN ARE MYTHS .. REAL KINGZ .. I LOVE HTOWN .. SCREWED UP CLICK IS THE BEST GROUP OF ALL TIME AN THE BEST SOLO ARTISTS AS WELL ...VERY SPECIAL .. SO TALENTED ... TRENDSETTERS .. LYRICALLY SMOOTH .. STREET GUYZ WHO WHERE AN STILL AHEAD OF THEY TIME .. AN IM FROM DALLAS TX .. SOUTH SIDE OAK CLIFF .. SINGING HILLZ TX .. I GREW UP ON S.U.C. AN THE OTHER ARTISTS FROM HTOWN .. SWISHA HOUSE .. BOSTON GEORGE .. THE SAUCE FACTORY .. GETO BOYZ .. STREET MILITARY .. KIRKO BANGZ .. K-RHINO .. SCARFACE N GETO BOYZ .. SAUVE HOUSE RECORDS .. TRAVIS SCOTT .. OG RON C .. I MEAN THEN DALLAS WE GOT MR POOKIE AN MR LUCCI .. BIG TUCK AN THE DSR FAMILY .. RALLY BOYZ .. BO-LEGG AN THE STAMPEDE BOYZ .. GATOR MAINE .. APOSTLE PAW .. LIONS DENS RECORDS .. QUINTON FOXX .. UNO LOSO .. SEVEN THE GREAT . ACE BOOGIE .. JJ PRINCE .. TRAP BOY FREDDY .. CFN DINERO MONEY .. YELLA BEZZY .. SLEEZY BEZZY .. RONNY MF .. POOKIE LEROY .. JB FROM DA NAWF .. MAN THEN AUSTIN GOT NIGGAZ N SAN ANTONIO ... S/O TO THE WHOLE STATE OF TX .. WE PUTTIN ON .. THE RAP GAME STOLE OUR WHOLE RAP SWAGG AN LINGO AN DRUG CULTURE .. THEY STOLE EVERYTHING .. SCREWED UP HOOKS NOW .. SCREWED UP VIDEOS .. TALKING BOUT SYRUP .. TALKING BOUT CANDY ON CARS .. TALKING BOUT XANS AKA HANDLE BARS .. WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DESIGNER CLOTHES .. BIG POKEY BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOPE .. BIG.. PIMP C .. MOE .. RONNIE SPENCER .. ZRO .. TRAE .. BILLY COOK .. THEY BEEN RAPPING AN SINGING .. Z-RO MAKE BEATS .. PAULL WALL KNOW HOW TO DJ .. PIMP C MAKE BEATS .. SCARFACE MAKES BEATS .. THE SOUTH WE BEEN THE SHIT .. PAY HOMAGE TO TX AN LOUISIANA .. ARKANSAS .. TENNESSEE .. FLORIDA .. ALABAMA .. THE CAROLINAS .. GEORGIA ... DONT FORGET MISSISSIPPI .. AN S/O TO CALI .. N MIDWEST CHICAGO .. DETROIT .. ST LOUIS .. MILWAUKEE .. NEBRASKA .. INDIANA .. LOVE YALL
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Big facts bro I'm from Dallas as well. And true we did grow up on that H-TOWN sh!t.
I remember as a 10 year old boy back in 1998 hearing 25 lighters. not knowing lil keke and fat pat was the dudes behind it until I got older and understood TX culture.
Maybe they should keep SPM locked up lol
@@Juganator kinda fax but i his music tho
Body Rockin Fat Pat Big Steve the whole Southside miss y'all much love coming from Louisiana
Same
Same hear man
Screw got so much love, what a wonderfull dude🔩 RIP Robert Earl Davis Jr
RIP to dj screw the screwed king
Love me some Fat Pat ...Still bumping his music ♥️😘 ..
It was irreplaceable! Will forever love this in my heart. We we could go back. If you know you know!
The boot been down with that Tx swang...hold up
Facts
Greatest rapper ever!!
R.I.P. Fat Pat
Love PAT rip to you and the loc Big Hawk miss y'all boyz 🙏🙏🙏💪💪💪
Louisiana Texas Connected
The King of the SOUTH!! R.I.P. PAT 👑🆒💯
R.i.p to every down south legend. Louisville ky love that screw sip purple in heaven
#502 DAVILLE
Love Fat Pat! and his music. Gone too soon RIP.
Yeah he was sadly gone too quickly🙏🙏🙏
Fat pat!!! 💙💙💙
Clarissa Mestas south side still holding it down for PAT🎤
🐐 Rapper in Houston of all-time 🎤 🎯
The Texas cats from this time and era shaped so much of my music tastes over the years. Pat and Hawk and SUC all of them are legends forever. Cannot forget Pimp and Moe. Rest in Power to some true kings.
TEXAS _RIP FAT PATS YO
June 14,2023
Man that candy Red GS Lex is meannnnnn
Clean af
That candy red BMW is holdin
Here in 2024!
Fat Pat, one of the most underrated rappers in the history of hip hop. I'm glad to know about him
South Side still holdin
Nawf Side Still Holdin 💪🏽
Southsiefil
TEXAS setting the standards as usual. RIP Fat Pat. Ft.Worth Keller TX in this b
BossHogg817 817 from Euless to the North Side to Stop 6
Murdaworth TX. 817
*damn man tysm for this fr fr, r.i.p. fat pat, h.a.w.k., big moe, pimp c, Mr 3-2 & dj screw* 🙏🏻
Rip to DJ Screw. And Fat Pat. Rip To Big Hawk And Chad Bulter. And Big Moe
And big moe fam
Me 3-2 gone too main
love from New Zealand
THE REASON I FREESTYLE TO THIS DAY 🤘
best h town ngga ever🤘🏾
2020 still holding . SCREWSTON TEXAS!
Mayne hol tf up man rip to the legend mr fat pat superstar And body rock is my shit 🔥✊🏿
Dam bro its a LOT of TX legends in 1 video.. RIP DJ SCEW,BIG HAWK,
FAT PAT, BIG STEVE.
FatPat had a Ghetto dream rip to them fallen ones of the S.U.C
RIP DJ NATE QUICK .. RIP . C STRUGGS .. FREE TWISTED BLACK .. RIP C-MOE KING OF HOOKS IN DALLAS TX ..
Big steve ...i see ya...c struggs...my nigga...from football to life
FREE TWISTED BLACK FOR REAL, 145 THE KID ❤️❤️❤️
That hurt me when Pat got hurt,,, I remember all the times they got together at Big Nose apt they would be down there rapping together... n Big Nose dad (Big Luke) used to mess with Blunt (Corey) about parking his car over n the apt parking lot... those were the days Big Nose used to threaten my baby with his iguana bcuz he said (THATS WHO HE MAKING ALL THAT NOISE) n he always said LOOKING LIKE UR DADDY!!! MISS Y’ALL
U... NEVER FORGET THEM TRYING TO COME UP
They have it on DVD. Go to amazon it's a double feature, with big moe movie called mann.
Put him in to something positive 💙❤️💪🏾🤟🏾I felt that 💯
RIP Dj Screw
SOOO glad 🤗😊🤗 I ran across this channel. Thank you... I'm so glad you have this documented on your channel, especially for those of us that weren't even born yet, but LOVE the SUC. 🤞🏾💙🤞🏾
Ooh, I see 97... I was born, but I was a lil bitty girl.
A Fat Pat interview would've been🔥🔥🔥🔥
Rare performance from Big Steve at the end.
This motivation pat was the man.....
Rip from NZ
RIP PAT!
R.I.P pat tops drop S.U.C 4 LIFE
Man everything that came from SUC was straight fire and it was hit after hit after hit after hit🤞🏾💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
💜
Maaan!
RIP to all of the fallen soldiers!
Lil Keke was a youngin and still looks the same!
I miss this era...life goes on!
#salute
Fat Pat was before his time!!! he from houston but something was just different about him RIP Pat
Much love from west by God Virginia..🤘
SCREW WAS SO REAL HIS INFLUENCE ON MUSIC IS EVIDENT DEFINATLY RELEVANT TO THIS DAY... SOUTHSIDE STILL HOLDING 4EVA SUC 4L 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
R.I.P to all our fallen soldiers!! S.U.C 4Life
Chuy Listening!🔥
Fa da souf to impacted da industry n influenced da rap scene u would think everybody would wana watch dis bt its only 19k smh
Man screw and all these cliques are legendary, not only influence rap but music altogether. Every genre has had the pitched down vocal in a song somewhere for the last 20 years or so.
Rip To DJ Screw and Fat Pat P imp c Big Hawk and Big Moe and Big Steve
Keep dropping em mayne
#ripFATPAT😇🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼
#ripBigHAWK😇🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼
#ripDjScrew😇🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼
Dayummm that BMW was clean ass fuck!🇺🇸🇧🇪🇭🇳🔩
Ghetttoooooo✌🔊🔊🔊🔊dreams Screw Luv
Man hol up screw 😎
Tha og freestyle 👑,, oready
Maaannn hol up... This here started my base and helped mold me into to rapper I am today... Use to walk down Antoine, Gessner, longpoint with my Walkman on boost rapping these tracks out loud pissing off the public... Not one fuk giving...
Springbranch????
RIP SCREW RIP PAT RIP HAWK RIP MOE RIP STEVE RIP 3-2 RIP GRACE RIP GATOR RIP MELLO
SLAB RYDIN AT ITS FINEST THAts when u could flip 80cent into 13,00 cds just came out
So.. that was Pat red ass Lincoln at the beach (obviously) but was that Lexus his too? And that Keke lac by that Lexus? What year was that? Who else from the SUC slab was shown on here?
PAT One 1 of tha realest on tha planet to touch tha Mic an BROKE That Thang RIP Screw An all Tha Real Gs"How We Miss Our Gs Every Night All I Do Is Hope N Pray#RNT ENT #TEXAS SHIT
Yo wreckshop, when can we see that full-raw Pat footage? Concerts, cyphers, all that.
Its not very much pat footage he died before people really started to understand the value of video footage and content . There's barely any footage of screw fortunately he started to do more interviews the last 2 years of his life
R-I-P P-A-T!!!
ITS GOIN DIIINE
My name is Freddy salazar from abilene tx. I lived in austin in the late 80'$ early 90'$.. every since I've bang screw the rest of my life. I'm 40 yr$ ant going stop till my casket is dropped. Thank to all the trendsetters who made it happen l,where the world doughted ya.we just do thing diffrent here in texas.show must go on you feel me and if they like it . O well take a number.
I need that version of just like candy 8:29 I been looking for that exact song
Mr. Mr. Fat Pat my nigga God bless you and your family one luv to the HAWKIN BROTHERS ($UC) TO THE FINISH
6:50 Keke gets cut off by ??? He says he'll put a hole that wall if Keke says it again...
You find out who it was
@@TheJoe1523 nah
The greatest #RIp FAT PAT
Maaan c'mon man! Fat Pat waz tha Slab!
Yo this DOOM. Shout out to u wreck and the family. The Arkansas niggas Me Dren and Double D can't do shit but appreciate the shot. MAANN!!
Fat pat was houston TX biggie smalls
In Beaumont was the last day he was alive 🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯
Screw wanted us to stick together! Pimp was on the same shit! #SoldiersUnited4Cash
RIP HAWK AND PAT