I own vw gold mk 6 1.4 TSI 118 KW 2010 with less than 100k on the clock and I have low compression in the cylinder 4 and misfiring. I just rang VW Australia and they said the car is out of the warranty, so you are on your own. Great service and reliability VW!
Sergey Kochevtsev lol, ah oh. I got 200k on the clock on mk5 Golf GTI 147kW, got a broken camshaft chain that spent me 4000 (extented warranty paid the bill, I spent 2000 on the warranty), runs fine now.
I have owned a 1.8 tsi Jetta for five months, purchased new. - exceptional performance, in particular the torque delivery, behaves like a midsize V-8 - exceptional fuel economy, I drive 120 kms/day, round trip. Average fuel economy typically mid-5-liter/100 kilometres - extremely happy with the all-around package of performance/handling/build quality On the down side, car is in getting a clutch problem diagnosed under warranty. Intermittent chattering, not related to driver error. Also, having previous experience with turbos, purchased extended warranty (to 200,000) in case turbo technology isn't sustainable over the long term.
oh, and audi a4, a6, a8, passat and exeo's frontwheel suspention is amazings cool, just to look at, a 4 link system, witch allows variable wheel angles when the wheel turn. i can't express my self en how the escribe the effect. but it's a race car type suspention. it has spare holes, to adjust the wheel angle, even the link bar from the steering looks cool and technical. i have repaired an accidental vihicle and was required to change the part with the wheel bearing and a new wheel. amazing!
there is a chain to control the the second camshaft, the one for the outlet ports. on the front side there is a belt, but it only drives the inlet shaft. the 2.5,... tdi has 2 of these chaints. 125ps for a 1800 is good number, else it would endanger other models. i think for the aluminium head, it's a real good number. the 125ps version has some of the parts required for the turbo version, already build in. there is a tube under the radiator for the intercooler
Great engines- had mine for over 180,000kms.. no problems apart from standard servicing requirements. Prefect combination of power and low fuel consumption.
+Arthur Milstead There's no such thing as oil change actually for these :D you got to refill it so often, that you change it 3 times between the ACTUAL oil changes. Based on 2009 A3 1.8T TFSI experience. You won't do a 1000km before the low oil level popup appears...
+JurijLasic Hahaha! minimal oil loss from my engine. Oil chaged every 5,000 klm. 1.8TFSI is a very different engine to the 118TSI. Don't know what oil your refilling with????
+Peter Hadjisavas You're right, the video is about TSI not TFSI, my bad. Answering your question: Valvo 5W30 was the oil it drank like mad, now after switching to Castrol 10W60 it's better, but still far from perfect
all cars should be build like that. you can even add 4 wheel drive if you find a donor car on the scrap yard. you need the gearbox, the rear axle system(subframe with differantial and suspention). voila, a beast that takes tight curves on town road like it's cheese, i have done 200+km/h+ (friend's '98 audi a8) on a land road with the 2 right wheel in the mud, that smal the road was for 2 car to pas. it's superbly safe personal race car for daily use. i wish all cars where like these ...
@Robert Urban! Are you being genuinely serious!!? The old 1.9 tdi has arguably been one of the most bomb proof engines! my dad had a mkiii which did 220k miles no problems! ive got a mkv on 140k and engine is still solid as a rock! plus which tsi and which tdi are you commenting on?? the 1.6 tdi or the 3l v6? or perhaps the 1.2 R4 tsi or the 3.0 v6 tfsi!!?
why is 5 valve unsuccesfull, i once removed the cam shafts to exchange the chain on them, a 20v 1800 engine - a4. i was amazed about the cams angel on the 3 inlet valves(they vary), smaller and therefor closer build, it's not that complex, it has a total accetable build quality. hydraulic valve adjust. the more valve, the more air effortly get's in, better vaporization of the fuel. yahama uses it on his bikes, do you think they also wrong¿?
i run this very motor in my Audi A3 and i can vow that this engine is reliable. I have done modifications such as after market intake, downpipe, hybrid turbo and stage 2 software. my vehicle has jumped from 90kw and 200nm up to 145kw and 320nm and the car runs perfect as a daily driven vehicle.
Yay, great video! I'm gonna buy this car as my first car to save money on fuel... I'm still wondering about the overhead capacity of the car if it can take a shortage of water for a long time...
I drive a 2010 VW Jetta Wolfsburg 2.0 Turbo TSI, and I have to say, to me, it sometimes feels like a V8; and it sips fuel. A full tank of premium can last a good two weekes going 14 mls back & forth to work for me.
Good engine with high power and, suprisingly, a lot of headroom. With moderate chiptuning you can raise the maximum torque from 200 to 260Nm all over the rpm spectrum and the maximum power output to 110kW.
i know, that smal civic vtec from the crx did that. but that was an exeption. the normal civic with vtec was, if i remember correct 110ps. but it's a high rpm machine, i think contineu racing trafficlights, wil get boring, the engine noise, although it sound pretty sweet. but how long with it last? a 6000+ rmp machine against a relax running 2.0 engine. like i said, you need fast 0-100km/h and when possible, with no noise, you don't want that people can hear you comming.
It depends on the initial cost of the vehicle. It takes a long time to recoup the extra initial cost in fuel savings. You may wear the car out long before the fuel savings matches the extra cost of the car. If you are looking at just economics you have to look at the total cost to own the vehicle. I think Yahoo gives this cost for vehicles. Civic is probably at the top for cheapest cars to own.
The supercharger enhances airflow into the engine, making a purer air fuel mix, reducing emissions and improving fuel economy. The turbocharger makes use of waste exhaust gas to improve power output, therefore making even more use out of the fuel.
Once the engine is done, it doesn't matter because they were the first to the market with it. Once the car is released, any automaker could just buy the car and take it appart to see how it works anyway.
That's all cool, very cool but I wish they'd just stick to rear wheel drive, front &/or mid mounted boxer 4 & yes, I know the beetle was rear mount, having a 71 superB
@hugostv you think...search it about piston upgrades rod upgrades bigger becks custom exhaust manifolds with external's and bigger turbo with reprogrammed ecu or even new ecu custom programmed...but i agrre if you put bigger turbo is going to blow up...like all other cars i think...
this is different than GDI engines. this engine can 'regarding it's mode' run on a ultra lean mixture, much less than the 1 to 14.x required optimal mixture. per combustion stroke it injects 2 different mixtures a rich and a lean around the rich mixture, preventing the engine to get hot and burn every last particle of gasonline.
no, a electronic direct injected diesel is real good for people. it's almsot impossible to kil the engine at traffic light when releasing the clutch accidental. it has loads of torque, it runs good, they reach 5000 rpm quickly. you visit the gas station litle. i drive 1700 km to get home in the netherland in exactly 16 hours, non stop drive. with litle more than 1.5 tank (50 liters) @ exactly 120km/h non stop, i only needed to acellerate @ toll gates. wanted to test my 90hp, topped it @ 210kmh
no, never drove it, but i did repair a volvo 850 t5 estate, police in holland used it. the police in the U.K. also. it's a car for salesman on the road. (due to economical reasons), i have a '94 vectra 2.5 24v stocked, a engine designed by coswordt, 5 speed gearbox, only 170hp and something like 2100 pounds in weight, it's a rocked. 4 cyl with gearbox, are better for the 50km/h speed limit stop and go traffic makes a 5-6-8 cyl engine lazy, to much gear change or drive high rpm in 2nd gear.
hmm well I saw one s60 T5 and if u compare this to vectra 2.5 V6 24 V it is a real rocket , u can get 7 sec to 100km/h easily so it's not bad as a salesman's car... IMO 5 cylinder 2.5 capacity with turbo is better than same 2.5 V6 6 cylinder without turbo... I asked u coz i want to know how reliable this cars are.. especially engines. BTW if u want drive really cheap put there an sequential LPG installation but Only Landi Renzo Omegas.
for sure 2.0 wih 150 PS arent economical.. long time ago honda reach 160 PS from 1.6 engine. (benzin) which "new" line of VW engines are 5 valves system ?
we littaraly race in the cities. it's to crowded for the policia to function probaly in order to do something about it. but going like 80km/h where 50 is alowed is not uncommen here in rush hour. on the highway it's 'somewhat' publicly accepted to drive 140, where 120 is alowed. i don't think you would be beabled to drive here on your first day, without getting scared. i can asure you, it's scary as a passanger. it goes hard here on the roads.
I have the SEAT Leon with a 90kw engine. Why that? it has the same mechanical parts as the golf, yet 10,000$ cheaper. The interior quality suffers, I know, but I bought this car for the sole purpose of sporty driving, and, trust me, it delivers spectacularly. currently producing 125bhp and 200nm of torque when I chip-tune it, it will be 158bhp and 270nm. can't wait.
check my typos, there are more than one of them. i know it's only 1 chain on the 4 cyl and 2 of these chains on some of the v6. europeans have a more tight tax system. some people like diesel, but want buy one, because they don't make that many km anualy. people that drive lots, like 60.000, but a diesel. diesel cars are higher taxed @ buy and anualy.
yyy tell me what u mean writing "no" coz I have no doubt that Diesel are good for people. I don't know with what or who u argue ? it;s madnes to reach 5000 rpm in diesel coz they reach max power at 4000. (in mostly) hmm i never saw those result in consumption in normal car 2.9 liter per 100km.. what car and engine ?
@sstcECOTECsstc i would dissagree in fuel economy, VW turbo engines have a flat torque band. the best way to achive economy is more usable torque. there is no lag and if driven gently it can do very well on the highway
the old citroen AX 1100 was caple of getting faster to 70km/h than a bmw 750. litle fast cars are real fun to 'rally' in. bigger cars are more dangerous to drive sporty, because of the weight in the cornes. litle cars are fun, you don't need speed, you need fast 0-100km/ times. i think that0's the most importand factor in european minds
I was talkin about 5 valves per cylinder, where did I wrote that 4 valves per cylinder is wrong? lol I see you aren't a mechanic so u need read more about GDI FSI and knows why they putted this technology into cars if Japanese don't want to developed it.. (BTW Renault had similar engine too called I.D.E. - not produced any more)
I did - there's no new 5 valves engines ( rest is all know old engines) anyway s60 T5 got 250 PS so there is no way u could beat it without serious modifications in vectra engine (stock had 8 sec to 100km/h) I u consider about economy put an LPG there. generally automatic gearboxes sucks
These TSI engines are now suffering from a lot of major engine failures at low mileage too. Timing chain problems and piston/ring problems.VW has pushed the envelope too far and unfortunately the consumer is paying the price.Avoid at all cost.This engine is a liability. Stick with diesel or higher cc normally aspirated for lower maintenance.
people demand fast smal cars. smal for the parking, fastt on the lane. people could ave bigger engine here, but they also like to trotle alot. many people also like to go on land road and enjoy to curve road, like personaly rally or something, i realy love to achieve the fasted possible speed around a corner of wich i got sorft of a fan of it. i hate long roads.
diesel cars have also a higher resel price, than gasoline engines. you can buy a used audi a8(8 years old) for 10.000€ +/-, you can buy a smal diesel new for 10.000 and stil resel for it more than 2000€ after 8 yeas. : ) those a realy market data.
95 Unleaded? Where do you buy that? All over the American southeast the standard premium grade is 93 octane Unleaded with regular Unleaded at 87 octane. At some stations in the Carolinas, you can buy "Racing Fuel" which is 100 octane and costs about twice the price of regular. But I don't think I've ever seen 95 Unleaded.
wel, normal families here in europe that never suffered some financial problems or some kind of aditions. exchanges his car when it's exactly 2 years old. they only think about the resel value. it's suposed to be that most of the cars older than 15 years or so are on the scrap yard. their no collectables. accept for some specials cars. but even our specials, like the opel manta, the C kadet and stuff like the 2002ti, bmw 323i,190 2.3 16v, the first m3, even they disappeared total from the view.
@MyChemicalJasper483 We're getting there, Chevy has 140bhp coming out of a 1.4, but it's designed for more fuel economy than the VW engine. I love American engines but drive a GTI :)
why, many 2.0 engine are tuned for economy and don't even reach 150hp(atleast in that time). marking technical, it's a good number. 1600 engine did around 90hp in that .... why, vw, still sells 5 valve engine. the only mistake, i might see here, that it is more exspensive, it need more parts and interruptions of the production line, to build others.
U see? I aksed which are now. If golf r20 is a sucessor of r32 (who got VR6 4 V) he will have a tuned 2.0 TFSI engine (270 PS) so it's not 5 valves per cylinder engine for sure. V8 TDI is 4 vales per cylinder engine S8 4.2 V8 5V (360 KM) was
i drive 1700 km to get home in the netherland in exactly 16 hours, non stop drive. with litle more than 1.5 tank (50 liters) I understood that u buyed a 50 liters for 1700 - u could write I tanked 75 per 1700km - write more specific pls. (it's normal now...)
Nice work The next hated race for the saving of money. china, Europe,? Hybrid,Electric,Water,and Air. I like that air. Save the water for plants and us.
i think some of the first rolls bently or bugatti used this technology first. Such designs have been around since at least 1912 (Peugeot) and perhaps earlier. source: wiki people here in europe want eco and fast engine for daily use. you don't need alot of torque, you just need to move yourself mostly of the time. otherwise rent a van.
well what can I say. Buy a turbocharged benzin engine... but if someone think that it will be economical (especially in street race) so he is wrong I like small and light cars too but not for journeys or normal race - bigger cars are more stable especially when u drive fast (about 160-200km/h) and are safer, small cars are ok but in the city..
who said anything about 2.9 liter / 100km. i ried to say, i covered france completely (997km) in a almost non stop trip, if it wasn't for toll gates with only 1 tank filling. vw wagens promised 50liter per 100km/h (or 5l to 100km) and their promise was true. i kept my foot in a certain position, that the car always kept cruisig non stop 120km/h. (i should have bought that handle for the steeling colom, to enenable cruise control).
The tsi is answer to yesterdays requirements not tomorrows requirements. Most of advances are evolutionary not revolutionary. Tomorrows requirements are engnies that get better thermal effecncey than fuel cells. high Torqure
NO ECONOMY WITH TSI TURBOCHARGER,TFSI TURBOCHARGER IN 1.8,2.0 on road : A4 1.8 TFSI WITH 2,400L/100km on highway,2,000L/100km in city, A4 3.2 FSI : 10L/100km in city,7.5L/100km on highway,A4 2.0 TDI ; 13L/100km in city,9.9L/100km on highway.
if u were right noone would buy an diesel.. but u wrong. Europeans are very economical and practice and thats why they like new type of diesel who gives u power and economy..
not in regular cars wiki - no comment thats why Europe developed a turbo diesels with direct injection... sorry coz u absolutely wrong , todays cars are heavier and bigger - yes, u need alot of tourge thats why we have very strong torque diesels Europe isn't a US where benzine is cheap..
Problems: The engine exhaust 1000 times more particles than a modern diesel engine with particulate filters [TV germany: "VOX auto mobil", 26.01.2014]. Over the EGR comes the particles to the intake side and pollute the inlet valves. The exhausts get more and more toxic and the engine can fail. This is an gradual process and a expensive problem for the car owner.
Not anymore. The new EA888 1.8TSI and 2.0TSI has the traditional injectors in the inlet manifold and also direct injectors in the head. The inlet injectors will clean the backside of the inlet valves...
clearly, not it's '94 car : ) i'm planning to buy a used audi A8 4.2 or 3.3 diesel. it has a better fuel economy than the vectra. restore the drive train from a tot z (gearbox, suspention, differentials, wheel bearings, axles) and drive it til falls apart. (depending on how i get it, i overhaul this or the other, but wheel bearings, axles and suspention wil be overhauled. i have been thinking about this cars for over atleast 3 year the dsp is cool, it's slighly faster from 0 to 100km/h.
because more than 4 valeves per cylinder is using in high RPM engines (bikes ect) who gives u power in very high RPM, In normal engines where u need a max torque available as low as possible more than 4 valves gives u nothing and put the max torque very high what is not economical and uncomfortable Like u see the Japanese who put 4 valeves per Cylinder (far before Germans start to do that) didn't put however a 5 valves per C. to cars engines ? guess why
@evydaemon Nothing wrong with the turbo on this engine,just muppets treating turbo like crap ie. not letting turbo cool down before turning off,revving the shit out of it when its cold and not bothering to change the oil. Whats not cost effective about this engine?the extra fuel you would use in a 3.0 l v6 could buy the car after three years.
u wrote chains if I'm correct there is only 1 chain in 1.8 ... 2.5 Tdi is a V6 so.. its obvious but tehe's a cam belt too. 125 in this engine is weak. I would never say that there is a 125 PS - misunderstanding 1.8 was a mistake and VW group give up this technology. that's all.
pfff clearly you have never seen a ford focus rs with 301 bhp from an 2.5 liter .. the thing with hp per liter is devious, because how much of that power do you have avaliable at any given time? ... despite all that I love turbos, they make for slower engines than NA but I love my 1.8T when it wooshes away ..
bad engines for everyday and normal use milions of problems in parts and the engine even in stock powers.....in medium fuels and hot weathers or if you push it more than normal your problems start....briliant idea (from lancia 30 years ago) but only for rally and tracks...servicing and repairing this engines wasent happy moment for us...if anyone worked in vw dealer knows..
enter audi 5 valve 2009 in google. the vectra does 7.3 or 7.5 to do 0-100km/h acelleration. (but you need to skilled with the gearbox, because it reaches 6000rpm realy fast and cuts off there, realy anoying if you having fun overtaken people on a 2 lane landroad. even thoug i realy enjoy engines, i recommend 4 cyl for daily use. it's just more practical. automatic sucks, unles it's a DSG, pdk or any other dual clutch system. witch acellerate faster and more efficient.
I know this very well it's called layered mixture but this wans't my point - the idea was the same like GDI and despite this in practice = FSI is even less economical than normal engines (TSI is more economical but it's because VW change totally unsuccessful 5V technology in turbo engines. In practice FSI works in 1 to 14.XX mixture almost all the time - so it's a shit...
I own vw gold mk 6 1.4 TSI 118 KW 2010 with less than 100k on the clock and I have low compression in the cylinder 4 and misfiring. I just rang VW Australia and they said the car is out of the warranty, so you are on your own. Great service and reliability VW!
Sergey Kochevtsev lol, ah oh. I got 200k on the clock on mk5 Golf GTI 147kW, got a broken camshaft chain that spent me 4000 (extented warranty paid the bill, I spent 2000 on the warranty), runs fine now.
@Corni33 FSI = natural aspiration and direct injection, TFSI : the same with single turbo, TSI : twin charged
I have owned a 1.8 tsi Jetta for five months, purchased new.
- exceptional performance, in particular the torque delivery, behaves like a midsize V-8
- exceptional fuel economy, I drive 120 kms/day, round trip. Average fuel economy typically mid-5-liter/100 kilometres
- extremely happy with the all-around package of performance/handling/build quality
On the down side, car is in getting a clutch problem diagnosed under warranty. Intermittent chattering, not related to driver error. Also, having previous experience with turbos, purchased extended warranty (to 200,000) in case turbo technology isn't sustainable over the long term.
oh, and audi a4, a6, a8, passat and exeo's frontwheel suspention is amazings cool, just to look at, a 4 link system, witch allows variable wheel angles when the wheel turn.
i can't express my self en how the escribe the effect.
but it's a race car type suspention.
it has spare holes, to adjust the wheel angle, even the link bar from the steering looks cool and technical.
i have repaired an accidental vihicle and was required to change the part with the wheel bearing and a new wheel.
amazing!
The first car with this setup was the famous Lancia Delta S4 more then 20 years ago, the street version was also a twincharger
there is a chain to control the the second camshaft, the one for the outlet ports.
on the front side there is a belt, but it only drives the inlet shaft.
the 2.5,... tdi has 2 of these chaints.
125ps for a 1800 is good number, else it would endanger other models.
i think for the aluminium head, it's a real good number.
the 125ps version has some of the parts required for the turbo version, already build in.
there is a tube under the radiator for the intercooler
Great engines- had mine for over 180,000kms.. no problems apart from standard servicing requirements. Prefect combination of power and low fuel consumption.
Peter Hadjisavas Could you tell me, How often did you change the oil? every 15000km or 10000km?
+Arthur Milstead There's no such thing as oil change actually for these :D you got to refill it so often, that you change it 3 times between the ACTUAL oil changes. Based on 2009 A3 1.8T TFSI experience. You won't do a 1000km before the low oil level popup appears...
+JurijLasic Hahaha! minimal oil loss from my engine. Oil chaged every 5,000 klm. 1.8TFSI is a very different engine to the 118TSI. Don't know what oil your refilling with????
+Arthur Milstead 5000klm.
+Peter Hadjisavas You're right, the video is about TSI not TFSI, my bad. Answering your question: Valvo 5W30 was the oil it drank like mad, now after switching to Castrol 10W60 it's better, but still far from perfect
I'm really happy with the 1.4 TSI in my Skoda Octavia. It's a dream to drive, coupled to the 7 speed DSG. Gives good mpg too on a motorway journey.
all cars should be build like that.
you can even add 4 wheel drive if you find a donor car on the scrap yard.
you need the gearbox, the rear axle system(subframe with differantial and suspention).
voila, a beast that takes tight curves on town road like it's cheese, i have done 200+km/h+ (friend's '98 audi a8) on a land road with the 2 right wheel in the mud, that smal the road was for 2 car to pas.
it's superbly safe personal race car for daily use.
i wish all cars where like these ...
@Robert Urban! Are you being genuinely serious!!? The old 1.9 tdi has arguably been one of the most bomb proof engines! my dad had a mkiii which did 220k miles no problems! ive got a mkv on 140k and engine is still solid as a rock! plus which tsi and which tdi are you commenting on?? the 1.6 tdi or the 3l v6? or perhaps the 1.2 R4 tsi or the 3.0 v6 tfsi!!?
which ones? are they "new" or only reconstruct ?
why is 5 valve unsuccesfull, i once removed the cam shafts to exchange the chain on them, a 20v 1800 engine - a4.
i was amazed about the cams angel on the 3 inlet valves(they vary), smaller and therefor closer build, it's not that complex, it has a total accetable build quality.
hydraulic valve adjust.
the more valve, the more air effortly get's in, better vaporization of the fuel.
yahama uses it on his bikes, do you think they also wrong¿?
2.0 TSI amazing engine. no problems at all
2.0tsi has a shit ton of problems, many TSB's and known faults.
i run this very motor in my Audi A3 and i can vow that this engine is reliable. I have done modifications such as after market intake, downpipe, hybrid turbo and stage 2 software. my vehicle has jumped from 90kw and 200nm up to 145kw and 320nm and the car runs perfect as a daily driven vehicle.
Yay, great video! I'm gonna buy this car as my first car to save money on fuel... I'm still wondering about the overhead capacity of the car if it can take a shortage of water for a long time...
1.8t vs. 2.0t who wins overall? (for example modifications, durability, power gains etc..)
VW are geniuses and this is just more proof of that
Nice to know this is a family car with a bit more oomph!
I drive a 2010 VW Jetta Wolfsburg 2.0 Turbo TSI, and I have to say, to me, it sometimes feels like a V8; and it sips fuel. A full tank of premium can last a good two weekes going 14 mls back & forth to work for me.
Good engine with high power and, suprisingly, a lot of headroom. With moderate chiptuning you can raise the maximum torque from 200 to 260Nm all over the rpm spectrum and the maximum power output to 110kW.
i know, that smal civic vtec from the crx did that.
but that was an exeption.
the normal civic with vtec was, if i remember correct 110ps.
but it's a high rpm machine, i think contineu racing trafficlights, wil get boring, the engine noise, although it sound pretty sweet.
but how long with it last?
a 6000+ rmp machine against a relax running 2.0 engine.
like i said, you need fast 0-100km/h and when possible, with no noise, you don't want that people can hear you comming.
@MyChemicalJasper483 well we did, look at the ford focus ecoboost. I'm not quite sure it gets 170 but its close
and they havent even introduced a variable cam duration and lift system yet into this brilliant set up
Actually Ferrari are putting out around 120BHP / liter from atmospheric engines, but the TFSI is very good also (direct injection etc).
It depends on the initial cost of the vehicle. It takes a long time to recoup the extra initial cost in fuel savings. You may wear the car out long before the fuel savings matches the extra cost of the car. If you are looking at just economics you have to look at the total cost to own the vehicle. I think Yahoo gives this cost for vehicles. Civic is probably at the top for cheapest cars to own.
ok nevermind coz I know this all what u writing of
Did u have an exeprience with S60 T5 engines ? 250 PS ?
VGT are new and expensive thats all, this is the best setup for the cost
The supercharger enhances airflow into the engine, making a purer air fuel mix, reducing emissions and improving fuel economy. The turbocharger makes use of waste exhaust gas to improve power output, therefore making even more use out of the fuel.
Once the engine is done, it doesn't matter because they were the first to the market with it. Once the car is released, any automaker could just buy the car and take it appart to see how it works anyway.
That's all cool, very cool but I wish they'd just stick to rear wheel drive, front &/or mid mounted boxer 4
& yes, I know the beetle was rear mount, having a 71 superB
@nekdonoben fsi has no turbocharger, tsi and tfsi are the same, only other names (turbocharged fuel stratified injection)
@hugostv you think...search it about piston upgrades rod upgrades bigger becks custom exhaust manifolds with external's and bigger turbo with reprogrammed ecu or even new ecu custom programmed...but i agrre if you put bigger turbo is going to blow up...like all other cars i think...
i see the Golf R20 will be a 5-valve engine and the v8 tdi is a 5 valve engine.
and maybe some of the 6 cyll diesel are 5 valve.
awesome system, wonder what it sounds like with no exhaust.
IS A EXCELENT TECHNOLOGI VERY GOOD
this is different than GDI engines.
this engine can 'regarding it's mode' run on a ultra lean mixture, much less than the 1 to 14.x required optimal mixture.
per combustion stroke it injects 2 different mixtures a rich and a lean around the rich mixture, preventing the engine to get hot and burn every last particle of gasonline.
no, a electronic direct injected diesel is real good for people.
it's almsot impossible to kil the engine at traffic light when releasing the clutch accidental.
it has loads of torque, it runs good, they reach 5000 rpm quickly.
you visit the gas station litle.
i drive 1700 km to get home in the netherland in exactly 16 hours, non stop drive.
with litle more than 1.5 tank (50 liters)
@ exactly 120km/h non stop, i only needed to acellerate @ toll gates.
wanted to test my 90hp, topped it @ 210kmh
TSI engine was founded in Czech Republic by Škoda Auto engineers.
what's the full form of TSI??
no, never drove it, but i did repair a volvo 850 t5 estate, police in holland used it.
the police in the U.K. also.
it's a car for salesman on the road.
(due to economical reasons), i have a '94 vectra 2.5 24v stocked, a engine designed by coswordt, 5 speed gearbox, only 170hp and something like 2100 pounds in weight, it's a rocked.
4 cyl with gearbox, are better for the 50km/h speed limit
stop and go traffic makes a 5-6-8 cyl engine lazy, to much gear change or drive high rpm in 2nd gear.
hmm well I saw one s60 T5 and if u compare this to vectra 2.5 V6 24 V it is a real rocket , u can get 7 sec to 100km/h easily so it's not bad as a salesman's car...
IMO 5 cylinder 2.5 capacity with turbo is better than same 2.5 V6 6 cylinder without turbo...
I asked u coz i want to know how reliable this cars are.. especially engines.
BTW if u want drive really cheap put there an sequential LPG installation but Only Landi Renzo Omegas.
for sure 2.0 wih 150 PS arent economical..
long time ago honda reach 160 PS from 1.6 engine. (benzin)
which "new" line of VW engines are 5 valves system ?
TSI was founded by Lancia in the 80s for the Lancia Delta S4 (Rally group B), baby!
there several 5 valve engines in the list. of 2009.
we littaraly race in the cities.
it's to crowded for the policia to function probaly in order to do something about it.
but going like 80km/h where 50 is alowed is not uncommen here in rush hour.
on the highway it's 'somewhat' publicly accepted to drive 140, where 120 is alowed.
i don't think you would be beabled to drive here on your first day, without getting scared.
i can asure you, it's scary as a passanger.
it goes hard here on the roads.
TSI turbochager all : 1-5 km/liter on highway,below 1 km/liter in city and average 1 km/liter
@SuperBeatnuts Unreliable only in the wrong hands..
only issue I've ever had is that it's port injected, so crap builds up on the inside of the valve heads.
ahh jeez, i love the word: Twin Charged
I have the SEAT Leon with a 90kw engine.
Why that? it has the same mechanical parts as the golf, yet 10,000$ cheaper.
The interior quality suffers, I know, but I bought this car for the sole purpose of sporty driving, and, trust me, it delivers spectacularly.
currently producing 125bhp and 200nm of torque
when I chip-tune it, it will be 158bhp and 270nm.
can't wait.
check my typos, there are more than one of them.
i know it's only 1 chain on the 4 cyl and 2 of these chains on some of the v6.
europeans have a more tight tax system.
some people like diesel, but want buy one, because they don't make that many km anualy. people that drive lots, like 60.000, but a diesel.
diesel cars are higher taxed @ buy and anualy.
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yyy tell me what u mean writing "no" coz I have no doubt that Diesel are good for people. I don't know with what or who u argue ?
it;s madnes to reach 5000 rpm in diesel coz they reach max power at 4000. (in mostly)
hmm i never saw those result in consumption in normal car 2.9 liter per 100km.. what car and engine ?
@sstcECOTECsstc i would dissagree in fuel economy, VW turbo engines have a flat torque band. the best way to achive economy is more usable torque. there is no lag and if driven gently it can do very well on the highway
ESATTO. Poi con una testa Triflux rende ancora di più. :)
the old citroen AX 1100 was caple of getting faster to 70km/h than a bmw 750.
litle fast cars are real fun to 'rally' in.
bigger cars are more dangerous to drive sporty, because of the weight in the cornes.
litle cars are fun, you don't need speed, you need fast 0-100km/ times.
i think that0's the most importand factor in european minds
I was talkin about 5 valves per cylinder, where did I wrote that 4 valves per cylinder is wrong? lol
I see you aren't a mechanic so u need read more about GDI FSI and knows why they putted this technology into cars if Japanese don't want to developed it.. (BTW Renault had similar engine too called I.D.E. - not produced any more)
I did - there's no new 5 valves engines ( rest is all know old engines)
anyway s60 T5 got 250 PS so there is no way u could beat it without serious modifications in vectra engine (stock had 8 sec to 100km/h)
I u consider about economy put an LPG there.
generally automatic gearboxes sucks
These TSI engines are now suffering from a lot of major engine failures at low mileage too. Timing chain problems and piston/ring problems.VW has pushed the envelope too far and unfortunately the consumer is paying the price.Avoid at all cost.This engine is a liability. Stick with diesel or higher cc normally aspirated for lower maintenance.
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Shame they fudged software here in oz and piston rings let go on em along with water pumps.
people demand fast smal cars.
smal for the parking, fastt on the lane.
people could ave bigger engine here, but they also like to trotle alot.
many people also like to go on land road and enjoy to curve road, like personaly rally or something, i realy love to achieve the fasted possible speed around a corner of wich i got sorft of a fan of it.
i hate long roads.
no, most companies already know how to make tiny 1.4L 4 cylinders.
Those newer generation engines are less reliable and more costly in maintenance.
Maybe FSI is more reliable than TSI...
diesel cars have also a higher resel price, than gasoline engines.
you can buy a used audi a8(8 years old) for 10.000€ +/-, you can buy a smal diesel new for 10.000 and stil resel for it more than 2000€ after 8 yeas.
: )
those a realy market data.
pioneering technology for petrol engines my ass!!!!
this technology is 10-15years old...
I use 95 unleaded, and have the same power...
The difference between this and an aftermarket engine, is this power has to come from normal fuel.
95 Unleaded? Where do you buy that? All over the American southeast the standard premium grade is 93 octane Unleaded with regular Unleaded at 87 octane. At some stations in the Carolinas, you can buy "Racing Fuel" which is 100 octane and costs about twice the price of regular. But I don't think I've ever seen 95 Unleaded.
wel, normal families here in europe that never suffered some financial problems or some kind of aditions.
exchanges his car when it's exactly 2 years old.
they only think about the resel value.
it's suposed to be that most of the cars older than 15 years or so are on the scrap yard.
their no collectables.
accept for some specials cars.
but even our specials, like the opel manta, the C kadet and stuff like the 2002ti, bmw 323i,190 2.3 16v, the first m3, even they disappeared total from the view.
TSI TURBOCHARGER,TFSI TURBOCHARGER,TFSI TWIN TURBOCHARGERS can use petrol octance 98-100,
@MyChemicalJasper483
We're getting there, Chevy has 140bhp coming out of a 1.4, but it's designed for more fuel economy than the VW engine. I love American engines but drive a GTI :)
@nireland90 japan is in asia
why, many 2.0 engine are tuned for economy and don't even reach 150hp(atleast in that time).
marking technical, it's a good number.
1600 engine did around 90hp in that ....
why, vw, still sells 5 valve engine.
the only mistake, i might see here, that it is more exspensive, it need more parts and interruptions of the production line, to build others.
@jubaiyagyu Lucky guy having one of those cars
U see? I aksed which are now. If golf r20 is a sucessor of r32 (who got VR6 4 V) he will have a tuned 2.0 TFSI engine (270 PS) so it's not 5 valves per cylinder engine for sure.
V8 TDI is 4 vales per cylinder engine
S8 4.2 V8 5V (360 KM) was
i drive 1700 km to get home in the netherland in exactly 16 hours, non stop drive.
with litle more than 1.5 tank (50 liters)
I understood that u buyed a 50 liters for 1700 - u could write I tanked 75 per 1700km - write more specific pls. (it's normal now...)
VW will most likely require high priced oil. The transmission fluid is also ridiculously expensive.
@j0d0k Who owns AUDI?
Nice work
The next hated race for the saving of money.
china, Europe,? Hybrid,Electric,Water,and Air. I like that air.
Save the water for plants and us.
i think some of the first rolls bently or bugatti used this technology first.
Such designs have been around since at least 1912 (Peugeot) and perhaps earlier.
source: wiki
people here in europe want eco and fast engine for daily use.
you don't need alot of torque, you just need to move yourself mostly of the time.
otherwise rent a van.
well what can I say. Buy a turbocharged benzin engine... but if someone think that it will be economical (especially in street race) so he is wrong
I like small and light cars too but not for journeys or normal race - bigger cars are more stable especially when u drive fast (about 160-200km/h) and are safer, small cars are ok but in the city..
who said anything about 2.9 liter / 100km.
i ried to say, i covered france completely (997km) in a almost non stop trip, if it wasn't for toll gates with only 1 tank filling.
vw wagens promised 50liter per 100km/h (or 5l to 100km) and their promise was true.
i kept my foot in a certain position, that the car always kept cruisig non stop 120km/h.
(i should have bought that handle for the steeling colom, to enenable cruise control).
The tsi is answer to yesterdays requirements not tomorrows requirements. Most of advances are evolutionary not revolutionary. Tomorrows requirements are engnies that get better thermal effecncey than fuel cells. high Torqure
NO ECONOMY WITH TSI TURBOCHARGER,TFSI TURBOCHARGER IN 1.8,2.0 on road : A4 1.8 TFSI WITH 2,400L/100km on highway,2,000L/100km in city, A4 3.2 FSI : 10L/100km in city,7.5L/100km on highway,A4 2.0 TDI ; 13L/100km in city,9.9L/100km on highway.
if u were right noone would buy an diesel.. but u wrong.
Europeans are very economical and practice and thats why they like new type of diesel who gives u power and economy..
not in regular cars
wiki - no comment
thats why Europe developed a turbo diesels with direct injection...
sorry coz u absolutely wrong , todays cars are heavier and bigger - yes, u need alot of tourge thats why we have very strong torque diesels
Europe isn't a US where benzine is cheap..
i forgot, you also need the fuel tank.
voila
4th engine I have done so far on this CAV engine.... LOL
@Signæl Jasper We dont build midget engines. Have fun with all that power going to the front wheels...
Problems: The engine exhaust 1000 times more particles than a modern diesel engine with particulate filters [TV germany: "VOX auto mobil", 26.01.2014]. Over the EGR comes the particles to the intake side and pollute the inlet valves. The exhausts get more and more toxic and the engine can fail. This is an gradual process and a expensive problem for the car owner.
Not anymore. The new EA888 1.8TSI and 2.0TSI has the traditional injectors in the inlet manifold and also direct injectors in the head. The inlet injectors will clean the backside of the inlet valves...
clearly, not it's '94 car
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i'm planning to buy a used audi A8 4.2 or 3.3 diesel. it has a better fuel economy than the vectra.
restore the drive train from a tot z (gearbox, suspention, differentials, wheel bearings, axles) and drive it til falls apart.
(depending on how i get it, i overhaul this or the other, but wheel bearings, axles and suspention wil be overhauled.
i have been thinking about this cars for over atleast 3 year
the dsp is cool, it's slighly faster from 0 to 100km/h.
because more than 4 valeves per cylinder is using in high RPM engines (bikes ect) who gives u power in very high RPM, In normal engines where u need a max torque available as low as possible more than 4 valves gives u nothing and put the max torque very high what is not economical and uncomfortable
Like u see the Japanese who put 4 valeves per Cylinder (far before Germans start to do that) didn't put however a 5 valves per C. to cars engines ? guess why
i wish to work for volkswagen
@evydaemon Nothing wrong with the turbo on this engine,just muppets treating turbo like crap ie. not letting turbo cool down before turning off,revving the shit out of it when its cold and not bothering to change the oil.
Whats not cost effective about this engine?the extra fuel you would use in a 3.0 l v6 could buy the car after three years.
Audi TFSI turbo all,TFSI twin turbo all : easy damage,no economy( 1-5 km/liter on highway,below 1 km/liter in city),overload,unstable power output
u wrote chains if I'm correct there is only 1 chain in 1.8 ...
2.5 Tdi is a V6 so.. its obvious but tehe's a cam belt too.
125 in this engine is weak. I would never say that there is a 125 PS - misunderstanding
1.8 was a mistake and VW group give up this technology. that's all.
Im in the market for a new 2011 Golf Variant. Anyone who has experience with them please send me a message as a have a few questions. Thanks.
pfff clearly you have never seen a ford focus rs with 301 bhp from an 2.5 liter .. the thing with hp per liter is devious, because how much of that power do you have avaliable at any given time? ... despite all that I love turbos, they make for slower engines than NA but I love my 1.8T when it wooshes away ..
bad engines for everyday and normal use milions of problems in parts and the engine even in stock powers.....in medium fuels and hot weathers or if you push it more than normal your problems start....briliant idea (from lancia 30 years ago) but only for rally and tracks...servicing and repairing this engines wasent happy moment for us...if anyone worked in vw dealer knows..
enter audi 5 valve 2009 in google.
the vectra does 7.3 or 7.5 to do 0-100km/h acelleration.
(but you need to skilled with the gearbox, because it reaches 6000rpm realy fast and cuts off there, realy anoying if you having fun overtaken people on a 2 lane landroad.
even thoug i realy enjoy engines, i recommend 4 cyl for daily use.
it's just more practical.
automatic sucks, unles it's a DSG, pdk or any other dual clutch system.
witch acellerate faster and more efficient.
I know this very well it's called layered mixture but this wans't my point - the idea was the same like GDI and despite this in practice = FSI is even less economical than normal engines (TSI is more economical but it's because VW change totally unsuccessful 5V technology in turbo engines.
In practice FSI works in 1 to 14.XX mixture almost all the time - so it's a shit...
Porsche biturbo petrol engines : easy damage,no economy( 1-5 km/liter on highway,below 1 km/liter in city),overload,unstable power output