Btw, the return for Hertl is NOT two first round picks! The return is better tank this year and next and next :) so the return is two firsts and higher chances of getting 1st overall picks! 3D chess ;)
Though some prospects are still in junior, or playing in European leagues, it is an undeniable fact that the Barracuda are not competitive because they are 31st out of 32 in AHL standings. Until the Barracuda are at the top of the AHL and winning in Calder Cup playoffs, Sharks fans should not think that the Sharks prospects are much better than other NHL teams or raise expectations for the NHL team. I am hopeful than long shots like Jake Furlong can develop over next three years into NHL players, but all I can observe in the whole Sharks system is a losing trend rather than their prospects being in deep playoff fights and contending. Sheng is right to think about "comfort food" for any fans witnessing the end of this Sharks season, let's say that Mike Grier is a human pretzel and fans are going to start biting into him if this team does not straighten out and fly right or improve faster. Planning five years at bottom of league standings in order to get many high draft picks (if that is the "re-build" plan, it probably isn't because it is too simple) will alienate many Sharks fans rather than win new fans. Those higher picks really matter as Will Smith demonstrates and if Sharks get 5 more draft picks in the top five in next 5 drafts and scout players more effectively, fans will become happier in about 10 more years. But just look at the records for players drafted in 2023 draft and observe that only 4 players (Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli and Zach Benson) have played in the NHL 2023-24 season (this means overall pick #1, #2, #3, and #13 made the NHL rosters in first season or age 18). If Sharks don't upgrade their scouting staff and improve lower round luck in the draft, they will never become contenders. I hope that Mike Grier gives up on using UFAs to hoard draft picks, as the draft picks that really matter (top 10, first round) almost never get traded so he is really only going to get lower picks for UFAs in current market. According to NHL media online, opening rosters in October 2023 had only 12 players that were teenagers (18 or 19 years old). Only 18% of players were age 23 or younger also. There were twelve 20 year olds, and twenty-five 21 year olds in whole NHL at start of season. These stats prove that 18 to 21 year olds don't dominate the NHL, and re-building through the draft is a very slow process which will torture fans with waiting if it is compounded with multiple dismal losing seasons or dwelling at bottom of standings for extended time. Because Sharks have never had a #1 overall pick, this lottery will be tense or stressful like any lottery for desperados. According to NHL, Sharks opening roster in 2023 had second fewest first round picks on it (5 players) while Buffalo had the most first round picks (14). As journalists or podcaster pundits, the thing to remember is that there will be many slow development stories over 5 years as all these new faces grow and new team chemistry bonds them into lines or pairs. I am hoping that Joe Thornton joins the Sharks development staff. Sharks really need power forwards and an outstanding goalie to get on right track, and both take much development so we are years away from satisfaction and theme song for Sharks fans for next few years is I Can't Get No Satisfaction. A future story on how the Sharks prospects not in NHL or AHL who do well in junior or European or KHL playoffs this spring would also be good. Sheng being on the road to cover such a Sharks team is doing great journalism even if it is painful to witness. Most of the new faces next season will move on, and a new core of star players will evolve in next 5 years which should surprise everyone except maybe David Quinn or Mike Grier who will have an inside track and see it first.
You clearly lack the understanding of what the AHL is for the sharks. They don't care as much about winning as they do development. Successful development does not usually equate to winning. Take the best record in the AHL. Zero high end protects, the team is full of vets that couldn't cut it in the NHL. Look at #2 only Shane Wright is a upper tier prospect and even he's not putting up elite Numbers. The AHL is a development league plain and simple and teams with shallow pools stack theirs up with NHL journeymen. Sorry but your logic is way off.
@@3lackavar He sounds like one of those "If we don't get Bedard, we are screwed for a decade! Any other Sharks fan who criticizes me is obviously stupid!" Kinda people
The biggest problem with the Barracuda is the goaltending, they've been a top 16 offensive team for most of the season and a decent neutral zone team, but the goaltending has been horrific. The Sharks organization, no disrespect to Chrona, Cooley, Romanov and Makiniemi, have been so far off course with their goaltending pipeline that it is actively hurting the Barracuda and Sharks.
You don't know any logic, so stop right there. You commit fallacy of misrepresentation (straw man) and ad hominem too. My argument is about how to measure the prospect pool, you misrepresent it as a binary opposition between development and intending to win as mutually exclusive. Study logic for real, don't BS!@@3lackavar
I really want to believe in Will Smith but he underwhelms me every time I watch him. He is very passive on defense. He is an average skater. He is a good passer but doesn't really take the puck to the net like you see with Ryan Leonard. Ryan Leonard is a human highlight reel in every game. Will Smith is more of a by-stander/role player in most of the plays. I just need to see more aggression from Smith. Sitting in the back while his teammates do all the work won't cut it in the NHL, especially on a rebuilding team like the Sharks.
I've watched every BC game this season and I honestly think Leonard is just a product of having Will Smith and Gabe Perreault on his line to pass him pucks. He doesn't have very good vision, always takes unnecessary penalties and mostly scores by just muscling his way to the net. He will hit his ceiling soon. Smith just needs to fix his defensive play and take the puck to the net more and he should be good as a 20 goals 40 assist type player. I do agree tho that he probably won't be that next Joe Thornton franchise player if that is what you were hoping for
@@TIGERSandBRUINS His skating is average at best. I am worried that Will Smith will struggle to advance through the neutral zone because the opposing players are all faster than him.
Love the content guys! 🦈 Can’t wait until draft day
Btw, the return for Hertl is NOT two first round picks! The return is better tank this year and next and next :) so the return is two firsts and higher chances of getting 1st overall picks! 3D chess ;)
I really enjoy this show - thank you for doing this guys!
You guys are the best
Hertl trade is good, unless Vegas wins THIS year, because as a potential wildcard team the 16-20th pick would be 32nd!
The 1st round pick is for next year. Not this year
Though some prospects are still in junior, or playing in European leagues, it is an undeniable fact that the Barracuda are not competitive because they are 31st out of 32 in AHL standings. Until the Barracuda are at the top of the AHL and winning in Calder Cup playoffs, Sharks fans should not think that the Sharks prospects are much better than other NHL teams or raise expectations for the NHL team. I am hopeful than long shots like Jake Furlong can develop over next three years into NHL players, but all I can observe in the whole Sharks system is a losing trend rather than their prospects being in deep playoff fights and contending. Sheng is right to think about "comfort food" for any fans witnessing the end of this Sharks season, let's say that Mike Grier is a human pretzel and fans are going to start biting into him if this team does not straighten out and fly right or improve faster.
Planning five years at bottom of league standings in order to get many high draft picks (if that is the "re-build" plan, it probably isn't because it is too simple) will alienate many Sharks fans rather than win new fans. Those higher picks really matter as Will Smith demonstrates and if Sharks get 5 more draft picks in the top five in next 5 drafts and scout players more effectively, fans will become happier in about 10 more years. But just look at the records for players drafted in 2023 draft and observe that only 4 players (Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli and Zach Benson) have played in the NHL 2023-24 season (this means overall pick #1, #2, #3, and #13 made the NHL rosters in first season or age 18).
If Sharks don't upgrade their scouting staff and improve lower round luck in the draft, they will never become contenders. I hope that Mike Grier gives up on using UFAs to hoard draft picks, as the draft picks that really matter (top 10, first round) almost never get traded so he is really only going to get lower picks for UFAs in current market.
According to NHL media online, opening rosters in October 2023 had only 12 players that were teenagers (18 or 19 years old). Only 18% of players were age 23 or younger also. There were twelve 20 year olds, and twenty-five 21 year olds in whole NHL at start of season. These stats prove that 18 to 21 year olds don't dominate the NHL, and re-building through the draft is a very slow process which will torture fans with waiting if it is compounded with multiple dismal losing seasons or dwelling at bottom of standings for extended time. Because Sharks have never had a #1 overall pick, this lottery will be tense or stressful like any lottery for desperados. According to NHL, Sharks opening roster in 2023 had second fewest first round picks on it (5 players) while Buffalo had the most first round picks (14).
As journalists or podcaster pundits, the thing to remember is that there will be many slow development stories over 5 years as all these new faces grow and new team chemistry bonds them into lines or pairs. I am hoping that Joe Thornton joins the Sharks development staff. Sharks really need power forwards and an outstanding goalie to get on right track, and both take much development so we are years away from satisfaction and theme song for Sharks fans for next few years is I Can't Get No Satisfaction. A future story on how the Sharks prospects not in NHL or AHL who do well in junior or European or KHL playoffs this spring would also be good. Sheng being on the road to cover such a Sharks team is doing great journalism even if it is painful to witness. Most of the new faces next season will move on, and a new core of star players will evolve in next 5 years which should surprise everyone except maybe David Quinn or Mike Grier who will have an inside track and see it first.
You clearly lack the understanding of what the AHL is for the sharks. They don't care as much about winning as they do development. Successful development does not usually equate to winning.
Take the best record in the AHL. Zero high end protects, the team is full of vets that couldn't cut it in the NHL. Look at #2 only Shane Wright is a upper tier prospect and even he's not putting up elite Numbers. The AHL is a development league plain and simple and teams with shallow pools stack theirs up with NHL journeymen.
Sorry but your logic is way off.
@@3lackavar He sounds like one of those "If we don't get Bedard, we are screwed for a decade! Any other Sharks fan who criticizes me is obviously stupid!" Kinda people
I'm shocked that this guy didn't apply for the GM job! He should have flicked through a resume, Hasso would have been throughly impressed
The biggest problem with the Barracuda is the goaltending, they've been a top 16 offensive team for most of the season and a decent neutral zone team, but the goaltending has been horrific. The Sharks organization, no disrespect to Chrona, Cooley, Romanov and Makiniemi, have been so far off course with their goaltending pipeline that it is actively hurting the Barracuda and Sharks.
You don't know any logic, so stop right there. You commit fallacy of misrepresentation (straw man) and ad hominem too. My argument is about how to measure the prospect pool, you misrepresent it as a binary opposition between development and intending to win as mutually exclusive. Study logic for real, don't BS!@@3lackavar
I really want to believe in Will Smith but he underwhelms me every time I watch him. He is very passive on defense. He is an average skater. He is a good passer but doesn't really take the puck to the net like you see with Ryan Leonard. Ryan Leonard is a human highlight reel in every game. Will Smith is more of a by-stander/role player in most of the plays. I just need to see more aggression from Smith. Sitting in the back while his teammates do all the work won't cut it in the NHL, especially on a rebuilding team like the Sharks.
Tbh his game is subtle. He's a playmaking disher who isn't a power forward. I think Will will (ha) be a valued contributor in the top 6
I've watched every BC game this season and I honestly think Leonard is just a product of having Will Smith and Gabe Perreault on his line to pass him pucks. He doesn't have very good vision, always takes unnecessary penalties and mostly scores by just muscling his way to the net. He will hit his ceiling soon. Smith just needs to fix his defensive play and take the puck to the net more and he should be good as a 20 goals 40 assist type player. I do agree tho that he probably won't be that next Joe Thornton franchise player if that is what you were hoping for
@@TIGERSandBRUINS His skating is average at best. I am worried that Will Smith will struggle to advance through the neutral zone because the opposing players are all faster than him.
Bordeleau is not it, gets manhandled along the boards, guy looks like a little boy out there.