Self-Esteem is a Bloody Lie | Jordan Peterson
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⚠️ ABOUT DR. JORDAN PETERSON
Jordan Peterson is a renowned Canadian psychologist, author, and professor, widely acclaimed for his profound insights into the human psyche and his contributions to the field of psychology. With an illustrious career spanning several decades, Peterson has earned a remarkable reputation for his thought-provoking ideas and transformative teachings.
Peterson's academic achievements are truly exceptional. He holds a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Alberta and has served as a professor at the University of Toronto. Throughout his career, he has published numerous influential papers and articles, making significant contributions to the field. Notably, his work on personality psychology and the psychology of religious and ideological belief systems has garnered widespread recognition.
One of the striking indicators of Peterson's impact is his exceptional citation count on Google Scholar of over 21,000 citations. His research has been cited by scholars and researchers worldwide, highlighting the significance and relevance of his ideas. This recognition reflects the profound influence he has had on the academic community and the intellectual discourse surrounding psychology.
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Bloody hell. This makes so much sense! The more I listen to him, the less I need my actual therapist.
Haha! You should probably stay in therapy though (if they’re one of the good ones*
I like listening to Jordan Peterson. He can break down any issue to make it understandable to the average person. However, I still need my psychiatrist.
@@Aybek4 Unfortunately most therapists seem to be awful these days. So many of them sign off on the tr00n delusions that it really makes me sad.
If I ever went to therapy, I'd find the most crotchety old man therapist I could. Old men are too old to sugarcoat shit so you know they're always telling you the truth to the best of their ability.
@@HollyDutton-wz8feAre you sure the meds aren't making you worse?
Bloody good bloody comment!
Years ago, my late father told me that genuine self respect was wholesome and necessary for mental and physical health. My father and I had seen in the news some people who were declaring that they were beautiful and had photos featuring really good-looking members of their kind. One of the photos was of a man who was so handsome he could qualify as an actor. Another photo showed a woman so pretty that she could win a beauty contest. My father noted that while the people in the photos were really attractive, the people who were promoting these photos were overdoing it. I asked my father how were they overdoing it. It seemed to me that these folks had some real self-respect. My father pointed out that real self respect didn't need to be publicly broadcast. He said that what these people were doing with the photos was not self respect, but self admiration. There was an enormous difference between the two, he stressed.
Well said (your Father) 🙏
We need more people like Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson (and the Bible) have taught me how to live a good productive life.
Bingo
Raising someone’s “self-esteem” without improving them is folly, because now they might be delusional, but “confidence” is a real thing and “self-esteem” just means “overall self-confidence” or “worthiness”, and so it does exist, but it’s context dependent.
I have good confidence about my ability to fix plumbing, but not about my ability to cook fancy food.
Am I “worthy” of good plumbing and fancy food, maybe not, I don’t know. I’m not perfect so maybe I don’t “deserve” fancy food, but I’m sure grateful when my wife cooks for me.
Jordan, your face is looking nice. The carnivore diet really makes a difference to skin.🙂
My mother taught me how to cook. However, she can cook by ear, while I need to follow a recipe in order to cook well.
You’re a pretty wise plumber.
Thank you you are so helpful and interesting
Wow. This makes so much sense. And now this 71yo woman is beginning to understand myself as a teenager!!
Self esteem is a lie. We are meant to be humble before one another and the Lord. Ironically it’s then that we feel better about ourselves.
Yes! So many children have been damaged with this lie….told they were talented, wonderful, and perfect without instilling any virtues in them at all. Parents and teachers have not taught self- discipline, work ethic, or perseverance in the name of lifting “self-esteem”.
@@theresapalumbo674 So true!!
Wrong, being humble before the Lord doesn't mean you have no self esteem.
It is a great sin to misjudge the quality of your own character in either direction, cause in the underestimation case it leads to burying your talent into the ground.
Being humble means being true to oneself, and serving God with all you got.
Soooo, I really enjoy listening to what you have to say, especially this message.... But, I also realize that I have to drastically improve my vocabulary in order to grasp the message you're trying to convey.... So thank you for the reality check and for spreading your knowledge and experience to help inspire growth in others. I greatly appreciate your time and your honesty.
Clever. Yes, i start scrambling for a dictionary every time I listen to this gentleman. I thought it was just me.
Good day to you!
The gist of what he is saying, is there’s a lump sum of traits and variables that contribute to the phenomenon of “self-esteem” as we experience and perceive it.
But self-esteem itself isn’t something that actually exists inside of us - it’s a word we use to convey the meaning of that experience we all share.
Except we don’t all experience self-esteem issues the same way, because self-esteem isn’t this objective, universal thing that exists the same way inside of everyone.
It differs depending on the individual’s relationship with some of the traits that give rise to the experience of self-esteem.
For example, here he talks about neuroticism, and how fundamentally that makes women more prone to low self esteem than men - and that’s because women experience and understand the world through emotions more than men do. It doesn’t make them lesser in any sense for that being the state of affairs, it’s not like you or I make the choice to incite an emotion or thought in ourselves. The thought or feeling arises, and then we respond to it.
Women have to deal with more emotional inflow than men do on average. It gives them a different battle to fight in the realm of something like self-esteem, where women will naturally be given more emotions to handle on a day-to-day basis than a man will.
But with something like self-esteem, if you never look past the fact that it’s a word that we invented to explain the experience, and isn’t how the experience itself actually exists in reality, then a lot of the nuance that contributes to low self esteem will be lost on you.
For example, low self esteem could be considered a poor management of one’s emotions - whenever I start to feel an emotion that would lower the self-esteem I hold myself in, I acknowledge, and then I do something that immediately combats that emotion. If I start to feel worthless, I help a friend by asking them how their day is, or doing chores and errands that have been on the to do list. If I feel angry, I avoid distractions and sit with the anger to assess if I’m angry because it’s justifiably the best response to a situation, or if I’m being sensitive and indignant.
This approach to emotions that could contribute to self-esteem issues if I didn’t address them embodies a couple different attitudes and qualities - the humility to criticize my own emotions without feeling attacked at the same time - the discipline to consistently address them when it often can feel like unfair work you didn’t ask for - the tolerance to psychological pain that comes from addressing these emotions head on instead of numbing my brain with iPhone brain rot - the perspective that comes from having made this choice a few times already and seeing how much better I feel when I do the dirty work to clean up my mind in those moments of negative emotions.
I don’t bring that up to brag on myself - there’s plenty of shit I mess up still, trust me on that. I’m just illustrating how much nuance and depth lies underneath what we put a label on. If you treat these labels as if they are something which actually exists, well then you’ll replace what actually exists with the label.
And that’s the really damning part, because that means you stop looking for a better way to understand it.
I write down every word I’ve never heard before with its definition. Jp accounts for what feels like 75% of the words on that list. I’d highly recommend it
You have completely summed up what l am trying to teach my young grandsons. What a gift this would be if children were taught this at a young age in school. I appreciate your time and effort to give detailed and personal reply.
@@Balakay_AdkinsThank you. So, put in the simplest way. It isn't something we have or don't have. We do not possess, cannot possess. It is a label for the way we process information.
And everyone is fighting a battle you know nothing about so be kind😊
So true my brother. Emotional intelligence is so important in these situations because the more you understand yourself the more you are able to deal with difficult emotions. Complex emotions such as anger and pain can take you through a journey that most describe as hell.
This is one of the first Jordan claims in a while thats hit me across the face as hard as it has. Whats the full interview around this one? I'm highly interested.
Same! He‘s so intelligent
I searched under this and found more jordan peterson on self esteem
He's talking rubbish, self esteem is about how you value yourself. By saying that this doesn’t exist he is saying either that people do not value themselves more than others or it is not possible to improve your aelf worth or have your self worth be crushed by others.
I think that we know that by lying, treating ourselves and others badly, eating poorly and not exercising then the respect/value for ourselves can diminish. When we try to work on ourselves such as self education, excercise, acting morrally to others, eating better then we can build a self esteem.
Building a self esteem is what he is doing when he reaches out to incels and gives them speeches about 'tidying your room'.
It's obvious that Jordon peterson is trying to get devout unquestioning followers by announcing other ideas as false whilst his ideas are true even if he contradicts himself. His behavior seems highly narcissistic and he doesn't seem to have truth as a guiding principle.
@@sparxhub3379 Seemed to spend a lot of typing time there to just say you don’t like the guy.
Did that get you a self esteem boost?
@@sparxhub3379the things you describe as things that people can do in order to build their self esteem does not build self esteem. If a person always tries to do what is right, that doesn’t mean it will build self esteem.
I like very much this man ; the way he talks makes you happy,relaxed and feeling good about yourself and others.
Thank you, professor!
Self esteem is a mind construct that can help to keep us focused and productive. People with victim syndrome have a hard time focusing on it.
This is very interesting, I would like to know more.
Always thought so! Thank you for saying this!
I love this man!!! Truth bravery and intelligence!!!
I love that he speaks in such a way that even when words are used by him to describe people or things that I don't know the exact meaning of, I still can understand exactly what he is saying. Wonderful man.
I need men to challenge me and speak into my life. Self esteem is a barrier to this.
Okay. I disagreed with him at first, listened again, and saw he was on point 🎯
Good to know because supposedly I have none of it! I luv Jordan Peterson ❤
This guy is a genious! He destroys info and thoughts that have been accepted to be correct for centuries and replaces them with the true ones.❤
God For hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of Love and of a sound mind.
Agreed but different topic altogether.
For HE came not to condemn the world but through HIM the world might be saved. Forgiveness, salvation, and the Redeemer. Loving with patience, mercy, and grace. According to the WILL OF GOD OF THE LIVING.
True, but unrelated to the topic at hand.
I always thought that something's fishy about this thing called self esteem... 🤔
Day 1: Every member of society treats you like you're perfect and amazing. Day 2: Every member of society attacks your deepest insecurities. What has changed on the experiential level? Trait neuroticism? Jordan would probably say "Well, I suppose the verbiage would amount to something approximating the phrase 'positive or negative orientation to one's own identity'"; oh hey look we're back to 'self-esteem'!
I don’t understand what he means when he says self-esteem “doesn’t exist”. He just defined it. Trait neuroticism - extroversion = self-esteem. I can define it too. It’s the feeling of having done good things separated from the good things that you’ve done. It’s certainly possible to have earned high self-esteem by doing good things, but even if you haven’t earned that feeling, you can still feel that way as long as you delude yourself. It’s certainly not a good thing to pursue or to measure success off of, but it most certainly exists.
By saying it « doesn’t exist », He’s saying it’s not an object. A zebra is an object. The zebra next to it is another object. Yet sure, You could create a concept that refers to the front end of the first zebra plus the back end of the second one. And using that concept, You’d still englobe most of the zebras of the herd. Yet it would be the wrong way of conceptualising them.
I think he mainly wants to deliver the message that to try and fix your self esteem you should rather focus lowering your levels of neurotocism because that is what’s causing the low self-esteem.
You are right. He is just reframing the problem, and not giving a solution. Lowering your neroticism is the same, and it is treating the symptoms. The problem is the lie you were taught as a child, that something is wrong with you. Embrace yourself as being ok (not your actions, but you, yourself). Stop listening to the lie that makes you crave more of whatever it is that fills your self esteem.
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Self steam is your self worth after doing something you thought couldn't do
Healthy self esteem is holding oneself in kind regard neither above nor below anyone else. It is the essence and common credo of all the world religions : Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is self esteem. Get a grip, Jordan.
That's not a scientific term is what he's saying, it doesn't exist in your mind as a construct. It's fine as a word to label how you feel about yourself, but what you label as self esteem is just positive emotion minus negative emotion.
@@odysseynoone3831 It doesn't matter. You can't live on whether a term exists or doesn't We use terms/names to understand. What is missing here is the solution. "Self esteem" is symptom. Treat the source: The lie you learned as a kid that you are somehow flawed. Whatever it is you crave to feel good, if you always need more, then this is the lie. Embrace that you are already ok. (Find a therapist who will help you unravel the lie.)
This is helpful.
Self worth comes from accomplishment!
I feel confident when I’ve accomplished something’s. Is self worth the same as confidence?
@@jaelenrandolph2030 Congradulations! You've just bought into the system of taking a pill to treat the symptoms. You'll always need one more achievement to feel good about yourself. Deal with the source: The lie that told you that you have to achieve something to be good enough. You already are good enough. Just embrace that.
I see... yes, neuroticism is very useful. I lack it completely, so I never knew what I was missing. If I see a problem, I just go straight into thinking of solutions, skipping all emotional reactions and anger. But short-sighted people don't care about resolving anything in the moment, their cranky asses want the solution now, not in 10 years, lol. It has its usefulness to push people into working faster. Much, much, much faster.
Every personality trait have it's benefits for sure to some extend ,but every extreme degree of personality trait have it's negatives.
My partner is like this, and he borderlines on sociopathy, so be careful. ♡ I wouldn't change him for anything, tho.
I disagree. The proclivity towards negative thinking is an acquired response to negative childhood experiences. It can be over -thrown by changing the internal dialogue through self validation. thus is not a stable feature of the "personality".
I needed this
Selfasteem is a 'suportable state' of coping with yourself. When a disballance appear, mind may go to the 'irrational ' or may use an irrational belief to restore the ballance of the mind.
I thought self esteem just means self confidence or self worth, does it mean something different in America I feel like I'm missing something
Can someone please explain his reasoning in plain words? I can't seem to fully grasp it
Unfortunately “trait neuroticism” is pathologized out of hand because “neurotic” is used pejoratively in common vernacular. The utility of this trait to survival has been minimized and misunderstood.
I think he said same thing about emotional intelligence. Would be good to have a short video about it as well
Yes, that’s true, emotional intelligence is just a talent, not a trait. But IQ is a trait, not a talent. If you’re smart, you’ll always be smart, if your low IQ you’ll always be low IQ, but if your low EQ you can practice and learn and improve.
@@jameslincsI mean , IQ can definetly be stepped up or stepped down too! It depends on your passion to learn and whether any external factors/stressors might be affecting that.
wish i heard this as a kid. 🍻
So do all of the people who are in prison have a high self esteem?
This is one time that Jordan got it wrong.
Totaly agree. Click words that sound fancy!
....and still, "Self-respect is the chief element in courage, and self-control is the main element in self-respect" - Thucydides.
An eventual difference perceived between self-esteem and self-respect must be clearly delimitated, otherwise professor's point of view is valid only in particular situations.
This is great, what a good explanation! That's Dr. JP
Good point!
Thank you! 🙏
Isn't "ego" a synonym for "self-esteem" ?
I love his brain. He is so smart
Always fascinating.
I'd be curious to know what he thinks of Nathaniel Brandon's conception of self-esteem, since he wrote extensively on it (Brandon was an associate and romantic partner of Ayn Rand).
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Isn't it not only understanding your reality, you would be self-esteem 😅.
God is good 😉❤️✌️
Every day! Amen!
Makes sense!
Gibberish word game.
This is great
Thats a nice opinion because theres also people that suposely has self steem but they smoke or do things that destroy their lifes or health, that in my opinion is not loving your self or your body.. maybe im wrong... God bless you guys
Everything destroys your life bro. Even life kills you slowly day by day. You might think smoking or risky activities shorten your life but some calculated risk might actually enrich it. You have to value quality of life more than quantity of life in order to understand what I'm saying
@@filipbelciug i know what you mean but you also know what i mean. Also like what quality of life are you gonna have if youre sick later. Anyway i get your point.
Should you love yourself or your body? How is that acted out in real life?
@@JiraiyaSama86 not necesarily i guess. In real life, i guess meditating, and eat healthy and try to sleep well, so you dont have may issues or struggle with health when you're older. I know it doesnt aply to everybody.
@@ahmedbusa8630 What you described doesn't seem that distinct from taking care of your body and mind? Is that what loving yourself means?
Yes!
I’ve gone to so many counselors and therapist through 50 plus years and the all use the words self esteem??? Even at Mayo Clinic I never heard the words neuroticism or extrovertism
This is such a horrible thing to say.
What do you tell a kid who has low self-esteem because his father left so he assigns low value to himself?
Don’t let Jordan play semantics with you.
So true
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True😊
Self-esteem is pride. Our confidence should be in Christ, not of ourselves
Christ is a fairy tale. There is no such thing as loving god.
@Palindas perhaps it's because you haven't looked for Him
@@troyglenn4353 i have. Many times for a very long time.
Its funny to me how some people talk about Jesus and Him saving their lives yadda yadda whereas none is there to mention about Jesus letting people down that were devoted to Him. I guess its because they are dead snd no one cares but the Jesus-fairy tale must go on.
@Palindas a positive attitude is key in any endeavor. I see you are discouraged, but we have to have the right attitude in place, or our thoughts, beliefs, words, and results are counterproductive. I wouldn't be here right now if it wasn't for Him.
@@CommodoreGrayum yeah, not starving to death is definitely something you would call "a worldy advantage".
Good stuff Jordan ❤
Nailed it.
Can you explain what is manic depression is that the same
I never liked the term 'self esteem', as i always thought it was about puffing oneself up like a cocaine addict who thinks he's invincible.
Pride? How?
Love the suit
Yep
“All actions result from the play of the three forces; only he who is blinded by egoism thinks, ‘I am the doer." This is one of the key ideas of the Eastern gnostics. Human beings, like all sentient beings, are bound by action. As long as they are part of the creatura they can no more escape from action than they can stop breathing and eating and still remain alive. But certain rare humans, endowed with the gnosis cardias, could see through the veil of maya and learn to separate themselves from their activities. All gnostics do not feel at ease in the creatura."
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I thought it was just sense of self worth.
Alex, Jordan Peterson strongly advises 'self esteem' doesn't exist and it's true, you should look him up speaking on it.
Me looking up neuroticism to try to understand better his sentences. I would think men would have a greater time with self esteem but a better way of suppressing it, espc since men are mostly taught to well be resistant tough men in a culture sense. Idk maybe it’s 50-50, maybe it is women more so, however it is a comment I can’t fundamentally agree with. Men have a higher rates in many unfortunate regards like forcibly kicking the bucket, that has to stem from low esteem in negative emotions I feel. Idk
Yesssss expose it
Please use smaller words
When explaining
Amen!!! It’s a self-esteem issue
@@kingdoobithang6666this are terminologies,you should educate yourself to understand educated people.
@@i4m192 or you could learn how to write.😂😂😂😂 I know what he’s saying dork, he just always has to use big words to make himself feel better about himself. It’s ridiculous.
@@kingdoobithang6666 alright room temp iq,as you like it.
@@i4m192 oh, another insecure intellectual. You’re so gullible,haha…
And some insecure people use self esteem to become narcissistic and selfish using "self love" as an excuse
" Do we believe in things that don't exist?Or, do we simply construct things that don't exist? And then they eventually come into existence. There no such thing as [Race], but yet we have used it to construct our reality; in many cases, a negative reality. We use White to Describe people who are not White; and Black to Describe people who are not Black. If we are "aiming at a target that doesn't exist",then that means we are delusional; and if we are delusional, then we are irrational and illogical: So, we cannot be trusted as Humans because of our proclivity to be delusional.👍🏾🕍👍🏻
Yikes, guess I need to lower my neuroticism. 😕
As much as i agree and have learned it all feels like such a heavy weight and makes me want to off myself more as time passes
This is wrong. Neuroticism is the sensitivity towards negative emotions. People that are highly neurotic can peecieve very subtle negativity in a multidimensional space.
Self esteem is the evaluation of oneself.
Extroversion is the expression of the individual. You can have a neurotic individual that expresses that or not.
Neuroticism minus Extroversion equals an neuroticly introverted individual that makes it difficult to be helped which can result in low self esteem but that does not make self esteem non existent.
Its like saying 2 does not exist because it can be expressed as 1+1
Substracting extroversion from neuroticism does not leave you with self esteem. This is an embaricing equation from many perspectives.
This one is a loser, moving one...
Damn right. If you feel like you're shit, you're shit. There is no "I have low self-esteem" there is just being actually worthless.
That's the lie. You are not worthless. Since you buy into the lie, you try to find things that make you feel less worthless. It's a lie that you are worthless, and you believe it because you feel that way...self fulfilling. Just know that you (self not actions) are ok; embrace that and figure out how to stop seeking more of whatever makes you feel better--you'll always need more. Deal with the source.
@@talonthorn Your reply is addressed to people who have not given up. Here's the thing you find out if you think about it even a little: If you can help others in any way, THAT GIVES YOU WORTH. You don't need crap. But if you can't help others and are useless to everyone, crap can't help you either.
Jeez Jordan, take it easy.
I need a bigger vocabulary!
I don't know how to grow it, but you can definitely lessen it, and if that's the case, it must exist.
You can certainly increase your level negative emotion, which translates to negatielve emotion towards yourself
Exhortation to Practical Living
(Romans 12 1-3 KJV 📖♥️)
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that may prove what is that is good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
For I say, through the grace is given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
he says it doesn't exist, then he defines it. It sounds like bs for what he thinks using fancy words. of course, people have self-esteem. and yes it can be changed.
Fels in der Brandung
im too stupid to understand what he means
me too
"We actually believe in things that don't exist so deeply that people use them in their speech, as if they're actual facts". Sounds like he's describing religion.
Huh?
0 selfesteem.
My DNA has ruined me.🎉
I’m beginning to wonder if a large percentage of psychological and medical issues come down to hormones.
Don't tell people Santa Claus doesn't exist, lol. Fantasy land America.
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No, this is stupid. I definitively esteem myself.
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What is neuroticism 😭
one of the personality trait - read about big five if you are into it. It's a tendency to negative emotions
I hurts my brain to hear his take on religion. Beliefs in a fantasy. The same thing he’s arguing against in this clip
This is a very odd statement. Self esteem is conceptually clear in therapeutic settings even if it is difficult to measure. Peterson often invokes difficult to measure concepts as though they are certain realities but chooses to claim the opposite here. I'm curious as to whether he has a motivation to do this he may not be aware of.
You've perfectly articulated what I couldn't. Thank you. As for his motivation, my guess is he's a traditional conservative. He loves the big 5 since it shows men and women to be different from each other. I dunno why he would dislike the idea of self esteem though. Its a very silly statement to deny it's existence.
There is no such thing as “apples” there is only Malus pumila because I have the big scientific name for what actually exists, so people are going around eating something that doesn’t actually exist. As a poet I have always said I have no self-esteem. Does trait neuroticism also mean I don’t have any self-loathing? Interesting point you make Dr. Peterson about people going around believing in things that don’t exist perverting all of society.... like “capital” I wonder??? Signifier vs signified? Who gets to determine language? The common use of the people in their day to day communications or academic elites who determine correct usage? Is not the “self” an imaginary construct of the mind?
Is not “the self” a residual totemic identification going back to the beginnings of totemic behaviours and the invention of out first metaphor that sparked the rapid development of language... “i Wolf” living as a totemic metaphor when we adopted the social structure of a cross-species pack of apes and wolves leaving behind the loose troop social structure for the tightly nit hunting pack? The big bang shift that made us human. Living as a totemic metaphor. Metonym can communicate simple direct information. Metaphor is necessary for complex language. Forty thousand years later how would that first metaphor unconsciously display its self in the stories this species tells about its self; like fragments spreading out from a big bang moment of creation?
Is just me or this video kinda looks Ai generated?