IGS PGM Motherboard Repair: Acid Removal, Trace Repair, Solder Reflow
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- This thing was dead as a door nail. didnt do a thing. leaky battery caused serious corrosion on several traces on the board. resistor packs needed to be removed and controls didnt work ect.
I have a few boards where I will need to do this kind of repair (not just repairing traces, but removing components to troubleshoot the problem). Seeing it done gave me the confidence to attack it. Glad to see another PGM back in service!
Dang. You should have earned a medal for fixing that board. Those traces are so dang small. I wish I was as good at repairing stuff as you. Again, good job.
It's videos like these that are such a great boon to inexperienced people such as myself trying to repair our hardware, or just tinker in general. Great stuff, man.
These kind of guides really help for someone who isn't super technical like myself, and will definitely be good support at some point in the future. :D
Leaking batteries sure can make a mess. I have an Acorn A500 where the battery leaked over half the board. With help from my friend we have it working, but have some stability issues. If he gets frustrated I'll give it a go myself on the traces. Great video, the more of these I watch the more confidence I get on being able to do some of these repairs myself.
Loved this vid. Great info on fixing traces here. I have a Mortal Kombat 1 board I need to pull back out that I bought non-working for $10 a year or so ago. I found several traces on the front of the board (close to each other) that were broken due to something being heavily scraped across the board at one spot. Such tiny traces I didn't think I could easily fix it, but after seeing your way of doing it, I think I can duplicate it. THANKS!
You are the PGM man! Thanks to you i already managed to repair 2 of these boards. And i don't know nothing about electronics.
Thanks again and keep up the good work.
Hey Luke will this technique was awsome...incredible fix too a horrid problem ..kudos bro
Great video! Very helpful! I have a multi trace scratch on a PCB which covers atleast 9 or 10 traces, at first I thought to use a line jump repair but the traces are so small. You have shown me the light, as I'm just a novice repair guy.
Thank you! And I'll post back on my rework to let you know how it went.
Luke, is there anything you CAN'T repair? XD
Jokes aside, it's always great to see you repairing game consoles and arcade boards. I'm learning so much from your videos! Thanks for uploading this!
Goddamn man. You're a beast at soldering. Those traces are tiny as hell.
Great info and tutorial. I'm waiting for a PGM motherboard and will check the battery first thing I get it.
Luke, I love that you seem to do this straight after work, in your suit.
Good work, too. I gotta get me a PGS. I really like the look of all the brawlers.
Thanks for the tips! I had no idea you could re-trace those fine bits using flux and not have them touch!
This is your board on acid / this is your board clean.
nice
A note on flux: to make sure the residues are not conductive, use only rosin based flux. The worst it can do is to accumulate dirt / dust on the board. Most other fluxes are corrosive and/or conductive, and should not be used in electronics. ;-)
You are correct with the methodology but wrong with the explanation. These "alkaline" batteries release a base, and you neutralize it with acid.
for clean soldering, touch the iron to the trace and then the solder to the trace+iron. dabbing the solder to the iron and using the iron to transfer to the traces/pad oxidizes the solder too much.
good solder reflows and solder joints will be smooth and shiny like a mirror.
The batteries on these are far worse than the famous neo geo batteries.Every one I've had has had serious trace damage. Nice clean repair though and well done explaining the neutralization process :)
I had the same problem a few weeks ago with my PGM mobo, lucky it was not that bad with the leaking batterie like yours. But still i had to clean it up and solder some of the traces too. :-)
Thats a lot of work Luke.
fibre glass pens are always useful fro trace repairs ;)
Leaky batteries on a pcb board its an nightmare. I've had to do a similar repair job on a remote controller for an old 1990s Sony TV. Someone left the batteries inside the remote and there was acid all over the PCB and everywhere.
Awesome work Luke
Thanks for teaching how to tin up traces Luke! I'll be sure to try it when I find a board that needs to 'retraced' I have an old pokemon yellow board that would need to be 'tined' up lol
More videos like this Please!
great work!! Magic Hands Luke strikes again!! :D
Looks better after tinning the traces.
Knight of Valor a pretty good beat em up. Overlooked most of the time because of Final Fight
Thx for the vid. I didn't know you could fix traces like this. Did you put solder on the pen or did you just reheat and spread what was already on the traces?
"Painting the traces" reminds me of the old Paint By Numbers lmao
Another repair well done dude!
If I was a broken PCB, I'd want to be found by Luke.
I thought that you're supposed to use a base like baking soda to neutralize an acid. Nice fix though man!
God how I love these videos lol
Suprisling this helped me clean an xploded battery in my gba game. Thanks.
Tnx for your video vinigar never tought of that but did help
Do you know if the IGS PGM needs 12v to run the games? Looks like the board boots up fine with 5v without the cart, but nothing when the game cart is inserted.
Is it possible for the copper from the trace to come loose? Sorry for the ignorant question I'm still learning.
Hey luke, what kind of flux do you use on motherboards like this? There's so many options, paste liquid grease. I'm trying to install a region free bios for a dreamcast and I just want to make sure I don't screw it up. I've done some soldering, but never had to use flux before. Thanks.
loving the videos as always, keep it up!
Would you still bother going over any traces that had battery leakage on but test good for continuity?
Once your done repairing the traces what do you use to re-protect them?
Ive used Nail Vanish- it seems to work Quite well
Nice work Luke! Is the PGM an MVS clone or something? looks very similair.
What kind of flux do you recommend for board repair? There are a few different types at radioshack (halogen-free non-rosin, organic acid-water soluble, etc.)
Dam, some good tips there, waiting to work on a laptop with similar issues but ordered a silver contact pen, what do you think of them Luke?
Hi I’m Luke i have that Arcade board destroyed by a hand grenade up and running again :)
Man I need to get to the battery on my mvs to remove it. Bit the screws holding it in place had been eaten out so I can't take it out :( gonna have to figure something out.
What kind of flux and solder do you use? Would the cheap rosin core work or do I need something else for boards in general?
What kind of solider are you using here(60/40) mix?
Bro if line near together how can soldering or fix coz i destroyed line cut with secrw wron use for xbox360 E slim the x steel for fan in back plz help...
Excellent video Mate i have a question i have a scratch on my Motherboard i think some traces are missing or damaged so my ram dimms wont work dou you think i can get it fixed by hot soldering it cause i read that mostly everybody recommends some condictive ink and so on for a cold soldering method can you clear my mind on that one mate?
Flux may be the greatest thing ever...
Did I spot some tri-force games in that video? ;-)
Any idea where to get replacement resistor packs ? I picked up a PGM board with some serious acid damage, completely destroyed a couple of the RSEC3 packs.
Thank you. This is fucking genius!
I need this N64 that I have repaired all it needs is composite video ports soldered to it, I sent you a message but since it is unlikely that you will find it with all the other ones you receive I though that I'd post here as well.
@lukemorse1
is it possible to solder this broken bridge on the green area of a gpu?
I have pictures of it but I cant include links in a comment for whatever reason.
Jesus how do you solder something that small! When I solder each blob is as big as a damn MVS cart!
I accidentally put a somewhat deep scratch on the motherboard of my IBM PS/1 Model 2133-G53. Its deep enough to feel with your finger and is a large green mark. Will this affect the board at all? Its luckily not on any traces but I'm worried I might have just permanently broken it.
I just got some liquid flux to try Luke's method and it didn't work at all. May have well used water :(
Hey Luke! I might not have a local Hard-Off ( I am jealous about that ) But I do have a local GameXchange! I have a pick ups video on that with a few obscure titles if you want to check that out on my channel latest vid! P.S. thanks to this vid i'm a little more confident jumping the traces on the motherboard of a messed up original XBOX I have! Keep up the good work Luke!
Hey Luke, How do you fix traces with flux that is paste-based?
Need to do a trace/solder repair on a two Xbox-360's...
I think the solder is more useful in a bag.
#Brilliant
Is that paperbag from a bakery store? just curious lol.
Would you be interested in two RROD Xbox 360's and 1st gen PS3 (needs internal powersupply) ?
Um, ya don't neutralize acid with acid. Besides, these batteries are alkaline; not acidic like a vehicle battery. Therefore, yeah, the lemon juice will at least partially neutralize the alkaline battery leakage. So you'll want to rerecord that part of the video or at least put a corrective annotation there. And you'll want to fix that in your title too.
Excellent tutorial lukemorse i wonder if this tutorial work same to repair a xbox v1.0 motherboard corroded traces? thanks for share greetings.
same thing happened to me on a xbox 360 when i was trying to remove the xclamps, and of course it works on any motherboard
My PGM motherboard Error RAM 5 .., pls Help..... :(
Repairgame master!
what brand do you use for flux???? thank you ^__^
Lol, that bag says "taste of best selection." What is that, tasters choice?
Hey Luke do you want me to mail you a tripod?
lukemorse to the rescue!!!
Or you could Use Water
@lukemorse1 Yourban awesome
10:30 that moment where things go unexpectedly right
welp... if you can sand and retin a trace haphazardly through a camra lense im pretty confident i can fix a neo geo with acid damage
Hey guys, The
best guide that I have seen was on Volt daddy (just google it) Gotta be
the most useful info on batteries and this kinda things that I have
found.
4:25 "make it wet"
Got any idea how i can restore this damage? puu.sh/sT3rP/f86e866435.jpg
Managed to scrape my third party cooler's memory heatsink onto one of the memory modules traces and it works, but don't know for how long lol.