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  • @GlitchUnlimited
    @GlitchUnlimited  Месяц назад +9

    📌What are your guys thoughts on this? The news just got worse about the whole situation. The CEO Responds, Dev/Community manager comments upset players and so much more. I honestly did not want to see this happen but it seems like the game is now under fire for the current issues..

    • @Senyin
      @Senyin Месяц назад +4

      In my opinion, it's not so much about the sudden forced PSN Accounts, it's the thought of - what will they force onto the game next?
      It only takes one small step in the wrong direction. You can blow it off as a simple 2 minutes to create an account, but what if they then take it a step farther and start implementing pay-to-win? You're account is now linked, it's easier to spend money from your PSN account.
      People have a right to be outraged at this. Companies will see they can get away with it, then take it a step farther, and father.

    • @Apenoot696
      @Apenoot696 Месяц назад +1

      People are WAAAAAYYYYYYYYY over reacting, just like many did over the latest balance patch. Requirement was on Steam page all along, just make an account with some random name. None of us are important enough that Sony will send the secret service after us to check if we entered our proper date of birth lol. And then just don't buy anything Sony related in the future.

    • @kasapkrvnik7799
      @kasapkrvnik7799 Месяц назад +3

      @@Apenoot696 wrong.

    • @gabusdeux
      @gabusdeux Месяц назад

      @@Apenoot696 individually you are correct, but they arent doing it for any of that, they are doing it to sell massive amounts of data that we may not want third parties to have

    • @Apenoot696
      @Apenoot696 Месяц назад

      @@kasapkrvnik7799 no you

  • @xpotion7686
    @xpotion7686 Месяц назад +141

    Man Sony should publish a class on how to torpedo a great games reputation in 1 single tweet

    • @doughbird4356
      @doughbird4356 Месяц назад +8

      Yeah we may sadly lose a fantastic game from this and we will get more slop games

    • @eazye210
      @eazye210 Месяц назад +6

      Like Arrowhead wasn't doing a good enough job patching and nerfing the fun out of their game.

    • @tallchairgaming
      @tallchairgaming Месяц назад +7

      @@eazye210 cry about the railgun nerf more

    • @eazye210
      @eazye210 Месяц назад

      @tallchairgaming Comments almost as irrelevant as your gaming channel 🤣.

    • @Barzarel
      @Barzarel Месяц назад

      Would make for a funny meme for sure if anything.

  • @daviddesrosiers1946
    @daviddesrosiers1946 Месяц назад +168

    Oh, yeah. I'm excited to be a part of Steam's fastest speed run to "overwhelmingly negative" in the platform's history.

    • @LeroxYT
      @LeroxYT Месяц назад +5

      I think thats still war thunders economic Update, which i also was part of

    • @hoteleight4217
      @hoteleight4217 Месяц назад +19

      Over ten years with steam and this finally got me to review something. I stepped away from playstation because my credit card info stolen from them in 2011. I bought the game because it was optional at the time to not have a PSN account. I am not taking another chance when playstation is still constantly being hacked.

    • @JordanRabon
      @JordanRabon Месяц назад +2

      *looks over from overwatch 1-2* first time?

    • @dreamshakejunya
      @dreamshakejunya Месяц назад

      @@hoteleight4217 lol it said required on the page.

    • @tulipalll
      @tulipalll Месяц назад

      @@dreamshakejunya go lick some japanese business man's boots. They need shining. get to it!

  • @josephstein3559
    @josephstein3559 Месяц назад +74

    Maybe the community manager spitz shouldnt encourage people to give a negative review because he has a chip on his shoulder. Maybe dont kick people from the discord server on a whim for asking simple questions about the PSN link.

    • @SmoggyFroggy
      @SmoggyFroggy Месяц назад +16

      Should have fired that guy a while ago, he is the worst community moderator of any game I have ever seen in my entire life. Sony is going to wish they told Arrowhead to can him after he made that smart alec remark about review bombing steam....that likely just cost them a few million...I know for sure if I see something like that if I am interested in a new game on the reviews its a game I stay away from no matter how cool it looks. This isnt new other games have suffered this same fate and it cost them million of dollars when they said something to this effect....War Thunder....Battlefield...the list goes on....one dumb remark and the whole company lost bug bucks....bad business.

    • @qwads
      @qwads Месяц назад +14

      @@SmoggyFroggy He is 100% nepotism hire, that's why the creature doesn't get the boot.

    • @yahootube90
      @yahootube90 Месяц назад +8

      Flashbacks of the Battlefield 5 thing... "Don't buy our game then"
      If I ran a company and my employee was telling people not to buy/use my products, they'd be gone pretty fast 🤣

    • @MAXIMUMintheHORMONE
      @MAXIMUMintheHORMONE Месяц назад +3

      He did ask for it. I simply complied.

    • @OrionDawn15
      @OrionDawn15 Месяц назад

      @@MAXIMUMintheHORMONE Good Helldivers follow orders, you're doing your part.

  • @MADSLAYER47
    @MADSLAYER47 Месяц назад +56

    It's not a review bomb, it's angry customers expressing their furor at being hoodwinked out of their purchase!

  • @GalenLeRaaz
    @GalenLeRaaz Месяц назад +23

    Grummz is 100% right - these Community Managers were apparently scammed in the uni/college, because they have no idea, how to de-escalate an issue and how to respond in good faith.

    • @COA5T
      @COA5T Месяц назад

      If you go and look at the comments under Grummz tweet, everyone is actually agreeing with Spitz and praising him as a CM for that response.

    • @joshm3484
      @joshm3484 Месяц назад

      They've done a good job until now. Not perfect, but good. They're people. They have bad days and tempers too. I'm pretty sure if you judged anyone by their worst day at work or the dumbest thing they've ever said in pubic, anyone would look bad, but it doesn't mean they're stupid.
      Probably all it means is they're pulling a lot of overtime just reading thousands of people telling them that they're all stupid for something only Sony can control and getting as frustrated as anyone would when they're criticized unfairly.

  • @lukemehalick370
    @lukemehalick370 Месяц назад +37

    Ok AH then why is splitz saying things like "i thought you were going to get a refund and leave?" To concerned paying customers?

    • @berserkerpride
      @berserkerpride Месяц назад +9

      Spitz is a spaz.

    • @BeardGrizzly
      @BeardGrizzly Месяц назад +5

      People are human and frustration happens. That said, a CM should absolutely know better and should totally be more understanding. This is a matter of them not getting the gravity of their impact.

    • @Carrion0409
      @Carrion0409 Месяц назад +5

      Were trying to get refunds lol. Trust me I'd gladly take my refund and leave

    • @Harvest133
      @Harvest133 Месяц назад

      @@Carrion0409 Mine was denied. I plan to keep making requests for one until I happens.

    • @Carrion0409
      @Carrion0409 Месяц назад +2

      @Harvest133 I'm on my second. If this one is denied I'll be making it a legal issue. Since sony is violating multiple consumer laws globally

  • @st0nedreality
    @st0nedreality Месяц назад +36

    If it was always there we would at least of had a choice to comply or refund. Now it's comply or lose your money!

    • @dompastille1402
      @dompastille1402 Месяц назад

      it was there, on the first week it was an option. But then as the video states. Had to be delayed for all players to convert to a later date. The creators have made this clear if you look it up. But i do agree that they have not done enough to really make it be known to the wider public. Its annoying as shit.

    • @dreamshakejunya
      @dreamshakejunya Месяц назад

      @@dompastille1402 Other than put it on a big gold box with gold letters

    • @dompastille1402
      @dompastille1402 Месяц назад

      @@dreamshakejunya Yeh i know but nobody at least to my understanding, has read it. Well not nobody, but definately the majority i think.

  • @owendurant7873
    @owendurant7873 Месяц назад +11

    The only two reasonable ways forward is either: 1. Have a exclusion list for countries not covered by psn. 2. Totally drop the requirement across the board.

  • @OffToBattle
    @OffToBattle Месяц назад +51

    Glitch, I am not a Helldivers content creator, I do other content and Helldivers I just play, but I have to loudly disagree on one point. What that Spitz person wrote is in Arrowhead's name, not Sony's, and given the issue of not everyone being able to (legally) create a PSN account, that aggressive, mocking and brazen tone is owned by Spitz and Arrowhead, and in that instance, not Sony whatsoever. We cannot control what other people do, but we can control what we do, and the same applies here. I will render blame unto Sony where Sony should bear it, and blame unto Arrowhead where Spitz nails it to their collective forehead. That is only fair.

    • @tonyoso1391
      @tonyoso1391 Месяц назад +11

      Selling the game in regions that cannot create psn accounts and not knowing about it is also ridiculous on arrowheads part

    • @pervertbismarck5067
      @pervertbismarck5067 Месяц назад

      Spitz is a terrible community manager. He's caused a whole lot of problems with his "I don't care what you feel" behavior. He needs to be fired as the community manager, there's no way an ignorant person deserves that title.

    • @dreamshakejunya
      @dreamshakejunya Месяц назад +2

      @@tonyoso1391lmao steam is the marketplace. Sony is the publisher. Why would you think the *developers* choose where the product is distributed… what do you think a publisher and a marketplace platform do?

    • @OffToBattle
      @OffToBattle Месяц назад

      @@tonyoso1391 I doubt they're unaware! To put it mildly there's a war going on not that far from them and sanctions on Russia affecting numerous developers. It's just that it's not their decision. This isn't to excuse Sony because Sony is aware of these issues, and the net effect of "3 months later, your game is unplayable unless you jump through THIS hoop for us" may earn a backlash from regulators in various countries. So this isn't over.

    • @OffToBattle
      @OffToBattle Месяц назад +2

      @@dreamshakejunya In point of fact, I wonder if Valve is going to take a dim view of this once their lawyers look at it.

  • @Moodyman90
    @Moodyman90 Месяц назад +21

    I am someone with a Sony PSN account, I do not want it linked to Steam at all. In my email folder related to the PSN account, there are too many emails about data breaches, hacks, and being eligible for lawsuit settlement payments from Sony than anything positive from them.

    • @LeroxYT
      @LeroxYT Месяц назад +4

      This, many PSN bots just say "make a throwaway account, but forget that it needs to be linked

    • @Moodyman90
      @Moodyman90 Месяц назад +2

      @@LeroxYT I know, the throwaway PSN account is already linked to your email, which is bad enough, unless you use a throwaway email account and at a certain point you've created a throwaway online identify you use more than your real one and then you get hacked and it's all over anyways.

    • @qwads
      @qwads Месяц назад +3

      @@LeroxYT That's the problem, if it wasn't required to link to my Steam account it would be meh. Fine. But I do not see the purpose in requiring me to create an account for a console I would never buy to play a PC game I bought on the PC to play on the PC with other people who also play on the PC.
      And it's a PVE game, if cheaters come up I just leave the mission and move on to next one or kick them and they already have the data on Steam on who to ban, they just want to implement Sony's 1984 text-book A.I to auto ban people for anything that goes against the will of Big Brother.

  • @evanhuizenga8626
    @evanhuizenga8626 Месяц назад +52

    Devs don't deserve hate... Spitz does though, pile on boys

    • @TheKingofFive
      @TheKingofFive Месяц назад

      hard push to have spitz fired. absolute jerk. he wants to manage a community like he's marie antoinette? show him the consequences

    • @ElrondKaresh
      @ElrondKaresh Месяц назад

      Meats back on the menu boys!

  • @malguskerensky
    @malguskerensky Месяц назад +21

    Sony may of pushed for this to go live, but frankly Arrowhead failed the Steam community by not communicating this outright. A banner should of been on their Discord and in-game, as well as on the Steam page with something like "While inactive now, a PSN account will be required in the future, plan accordingly" (or prepare to loose your game, if you are in 110 or so countries without PSN.....). AH should of been pushing this weekly since release if it was in their contract with the Publisher and knew it was coming down. If not reversed by June 3rd, well good luck on those Steam numbers...

    • @jeromearenas8028
      @jeromearenas8028 Месяц назад +4

      So AH has a part to be blamed for, not just sony

    • @Rogue_Trooper970
      @Rogue_Trooper970 Месяц назад +3

      This, you shouldn't have to go digging for information like this in an EULA

    • @novamagician2425
      @novamagician2425 Месяц назад

      I thought someone on reddit dig through eula and found nothing about this, i could be wrong though

    • @brigandboy1425
      @brigandboy1425 Месяц назад

      I didn't even know there *WAS* a PSN connection. I got the game as a gift, so I never even saw the store page until I was already playing the game.

  • @AWARHERO
    @AWARHERO Месяц назад +28

    I bought this game on Steam. I don't own a playstation console.
    I play on PC. I won't comply!

    • @robertarmstrong2323
      @robertarmstrong2323 Месяц назад

      Then dont

    • @LeroxYT
      @LeroxYT Месяц назад +2

      I also wont, because the accounts would be linked, which means throwaway doesnt work too

    • @doncoyote68
      @doncoyote68 Месяц назад +1

      I won't either.

  • @urazz7739
    @urazz7739 Месяц назад +4

    Note one big thing is the warning about the needing the PlayStation account on the steam page is that the warnings about that kind of stuff is not near the button to buy the game. You have to scroll down the screen a bit to see it, even in full screen mode (I did it in a 2560X1080 resolution). So I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people didn't see that warning.

  • @Blakkrazor69
    @Blakkrazor69 Месяц назад +11

    Arrowhead knew that Steam sold to Nations that do not have PSN access or they were lazy and didn't care to do the research or didn't care and just wanted the sales. Which was it? Go ahead, defend AH and their callous behavior and responses to this latest information coming out as "mandatory". PC users have NO reason to make PSN accounts or giving Sony access to their information and anyone being a White Knight for these asshats is as contemptible. This was a game making fun of Fascism, now it's a studio engaging in it. Papers please! It's for...your safety! LMFAO...sure it is.

  • @eazye210
    @eazye210 Месяц назад +13

    Partnership lmao the cope. People dont take a bank loan and now say they are partnered with the bank. Sony owns your IP no partnership.

  • @kylequinn1963
    @kylequinn1963 Месяц назад +28

    I just checked it and it's over 24,000 negative reviwes. Love it.

    • @RicodeWaard
      @RicodeWaard Месяц назад

      Its over 30k now.

    • @mellotomevoices
      @mellotomevoices Месяц назад +7

      30,000 negative reviews now.

    • @TimelessWisper
      @TimelessWisper Месяц назад +1

      30,051

    • @Apenoot696
      @Apenoot696 Месяц назад +3

      Fuck yeah guys lets destroy Arrowheads game because Sony is being dumb!

    • @Jack-cc3qm
      @Jack-cc3qm Месяц назад +2

      Those are rookie numbers. We can get SBI Detected levels of wrecked.

  • @ForgotGenX
    @ForgotGenX Месяц назад +5

    They say this was planned from the beginning... If so, then how come they didnt figure out all these issues BEFORE NOW.....Instead they wait till the last minute to say " Oh yea, we are trying to figure it out" It should have been figured FROM RELEASE......

  • @gamerpanphit5959
    @gamerpanphit5959 Месяц назад +12

    So in short. Sony Mess Arrowhead real bad.
    I feel bad for CEO.😢

    • @qwads
      @qwads Месяц назад +4

      I don't, they knew exactly what they signed. They let their community managers and one dev publicly insult their customers and they have not been fired or forced to issue a direct apology themselves.

    • @thefinalboss2403
      @thefinalboss2403 Месяц назад +1

      You shouldn't feel bad for the guy that chose to work with one of the worst possible publishers.

    • @gamerpanphit5959
      @gamerpanphit5959 Месяц назад

      @@qwads just check on other channel too. Doesn't look good for both Arrowhead and Sony. got worst and maybe even insult some of the player =_=;

  • @deadman3140
    @deadman3140 Месяц назад +12

    The Arrowhead CEO said it's 100% Sony giving ultimatums; They've been doing that for decades.

    • @Mrfronter
      @Mrfronter Месяц назад +8

      But AH agreed to it even built it in from day one but not communicate it clearly. It doesn't help either with snarky CM.

    • @thefinalboss2403
      @thefinalboss2403 Месяц назад +4

      Nobody forced the dev to work with sony. They are responsible for who they choose to work with.
      They traded integrity for cash.

    • @gabusdeux
      @gabusdeux Месяц назад +2

      @@thefinalboss2403 look im upset with them too but thats a braindead take

    • @Zlyde007
      @Zlyde007 Месяц назад

      @@gabusdeux yeah, obviously Arrowhead magically couldn't stop their hands from taking a pen and signing the contract. Its obvious they bear no responsibility whatsoever

    • @guardianexo2624
      @guardianexo2624 Месяц назад

      They probably had to find a publisher to fund the game. Helldivers 1 and 2 probably wouldn’t exist without Sony’s funding. It’s sad, but sometimes indie companies end up trading some of their creative freedom, just to fund their dream game, only for the publishers to screw them over unexpectedly.

  • @R0cketRed
    @R0cketRed Месяц назад +5

    Hey Sony, it ONLY takes 120 seconds to give me your bank account info. What's the big deal!?

  • @Northwind82
    @Northwind82 Месяц назад +8

    The helldivers face their most vile, hated, democracy despising enemy yet! Sony interactive entertainment

    • @qwads
      @qwads Месяц назад +1

      It's not just a coincidence that Sony's main HQ is in Commifornia!~

  • @matthewbusse1059
    @matthewbusse1059 Месяц назад +8

    Create a PS account, simple. And then a month from now they start charging you $5/month to play a game you already paid for or some bullshit like that

  • @Carrion0409
    @Carrion0409 Месяц назад +8

    They can make it up to me by giving me my money back

  • @jj6540
    @jj6540 Месяц назад +3

    ghosts coming this month also has a psn requirement

  • @pointnemo72
    @pointnemo72 Месяц назад +7

    Yep, I'm done with Helldivers 2.
    I'll sit back and watch their game wither.
    Sony's track record speaks for itself.

  • @DarthAgony
    @DarthAgony Месяц назад +5

    Negative reviews are now at 30k for today. F Sony.

  • @DougHoward-rc9qw
    @DougHoward-rc9qw Месяц назад +19

    "Stupid?!" They could have refused when they signed the contract with Sony. It's not stupid. It IS them. They agreed...and implemented it when the player count stabilized, long beyond the refund period. Furthermore, It makes one wonder why it was initially disabled in the first place ("technical difficulties"? WHICH technical difficulties EXACTLY?") and the odd price point on release. "Once we get their cash, we can re-enable it." Yes cynical, I know. Untrue? I'm having a hard time believing this conversation never came up.

    • @dompastille1402
      @dompastille1402 Месяц назад +3

      If they refused the contract with Sony, they would've probably wouldn't be able to make this game. Its a big corporation, so if someone who had the money and the skill for you to make your dream game. Then sorry, most likely case is your going to do it and sign it. Arrowhead would've never been able to make the game in the first place without them because if they didn't they probably would've gone bankrupt. Its annoying but that's the reality. And to answer the technical difficulties part, the game on release had so many bugs and server issues, that the staff had to focus on, instead of the account linking, they wanted to make sure they had a polished game. Some of these issues they are still trying to fix. Its annoying as shit they did do this though to the player base, and i agree they should've made this more well known within the community. But if you should be angry at anyone you should be angry at Sony who's hiding behind arrowhead who's taking all the punches right now. Its more because of their greed, not arrowhead. I think

    • @CT--gs4oj
      @CT--gs4oj Месяц назад +1

      Yeah but without the contract it’s highly unlikely the game would’ve gone this far anyway, they just wanted their game out there and I’m guessing the Sony contract was the best choice

    • @hitandruncommentor
      @hitandruncommentor Месяц назад +2

      To everyone going the contract, then break the contract, pay the penalty. Big woop, without Sony shackling them they could release an Xbox port and get their money back in a week. Maybe it's the language barrier but I'm tired of arrowheads constant excuses.

    • @salzer2.049
      @salzer2.049 Месяц назад

      This proves you don’t know what you’re talking about

    • @ahmedjawad9298
      @ahmedjawad9298 Месяц назад

      Dum dum you even agreed on it when you bought the game so piss off

  • @Rubicon2305
    @Rubicon2305 Месяц назад +5

    If they don't walk this back, I will never play their game again... or any game by them, EVER. I am a PC player. I don't have and I do NOT want a PSN account. I don't do consoles. Tried years and years ago, but it was never my thing. It is what it is. And I'll be damned if someone is going to force me to give my personal data and create yet another damned account over there so I can play over here. I am so sick and tired of it. They got in bed with Sony, they made the deal and are saying it was that way from the beginning - that means THEY KNEW otherwise they would not have agreed to it or, as part of the partnering, would have made that an option to opt-in or opt-out and not buried the lead on it only to ambush customers months later with such a d*ck move... how freakin hard is that. Do NOT give your customers tyrannical ultimatums. I for one will take my money, my time and my patronage and walk.

  • @TheKingofFive
    @TheKingofFive Месяц назад +16

    This is simple, we let companies sell us rights of Use, not ownership of a product, This is on us. and the only way to fix it, is to go outside and touch grass until these companies change, or fail. Yes, that means Stop giving them your MONEY.
    You want to Own a product you pay for? Stop buying anything that has terms of service that grant anything but Full ownership of what you paid for. No acceptable rights to terminate at any time, no forced mediation, None of it.
    As for Arrowhead? Make no mistake, sure it's sony but Arrowhead could push back, they're choosing not to because to them the fight isn't worth it. It will be when you all stop playing the game. Review bombing is cute but if you want to actually get their attention? Stop telling them their crack is Bad, and continuing to fucking smoke it. Go play something else for 2 months and let their player counts drop to sub 20k. And watch how quickly this either changes or dies.

    • @qwads
      @qwads Месяц назад +2

      ToS aren't legally binding, I do not know it works in the US but for the rest of the world it's basically virtual toilet paper.

    • @dompastille1402
      @dompastille1402 Месяц назад

      I do agree, but in the end, Arrowhead are unable to do anything about it, their hands are tied due to it probably being in their contract agreement. But i do fucking agree with you with everything though other then that.

  • @drusszan
    @drusszan Месяц назад +7

    Ehh.. Its Sony doing not ArrowHeads... games still fun have to see what happens in the month. but most likley will still playing it.

  • @Cur7y_445
    @Cur7y_445 Месяц назад +1

    You gotta give credit to the devs because their trying to find a solution to all of this
    Most other companies probably wouldn’t even care

  • @TankHunter678
    @TankHunter678 Месяц назад +2

    At the moment of me posting this (2 hours after the video posting), its 32,960 negative reviews.

    • @GlitchUnlimited
      @GlitchUnlimited  Месяц назад

      Oh boy the last time I checked it was at 30,058...it's going higher.

  • @eternalmeditation
    @eternalmeditation Месяц назад +1

    Once Spitz said "if you don't like it, change your review" earned this whole thing for the company. Taking this off my wishlist.
    Spitz should be fired immediately

  • @naaher
    @naaher Месяц назад +1

    The information required to create a PSN account is sufficient to obtain more detailed information about such a user, and then, in many countries, to take out, for example, a loan for such a person, which is a very serious threat.

  • @Jabokrazy
    @Jabokrazy Месяц назад +1

    If mortars killing citizens costs you requisition slips, why doesn't the guard dog have the same thing?

  • @flashsentry1791
    @flashsentry1791 Месяц назад +1

    Arrorhead just got a major order. Remove the Corporate scum from the planet Steam to reconnect communication to the lost Helldivers on planet PC. Can they complete this order in time before all those hell divers are lost?

  • @ElrondKaresh
    @ElrondKaresh Месяц назад +3

    I definitely won't be doing that.

  • @thefinalboss2403
    @thefinalboss2403 Месяц назад +3

    Actually, you not blaming arrowhead is stupid. They accepted the terms, and now they wanna pretend like they were forced to work with Sony.
    Arrowhead also isnt above corrupting your pc with malware. Like Nprotect!

  • @gamestation6988
    @gamestation6988 Месяц назад +1

    I have a PlayStation account so this will barely affect me, but my heart goes out all the level 90 players who can't get accounts. What's worse is they just announced the next war bond yesterday, they need to figure this out before it drops next week.

  • @locutos8397
    @locutos8397 Месяц назад

    I can't recover my PS account i made 10y+ ago, and NEVER used. I don't remember the password or secret question and there is no way to recover it.

  • @Ratsputin
    @Ratsputin Месяц назад +2

    Arrowhead is starting to lose favor with me, everything from hidden changes in patch notes, to the pr teams snarky and out of touch replies, I love the CEO cause he has been the only genuine person I've seen so far

  • @cuahuizo13
    @cuahuizo13 Месяц назад

    Class action law suit against Sony? I know we can’t go after them for the requirement since it was listed on the game page. But we can go after them for “loss of enjoyment in life” for forcing arrowhead to enable the requirement.

  • @Er0G3niu5
    @Er0G3niu5 Месяц назад

    Just checked today and it's about 42k negative reviews already

  • @justinspangle4368
    @justinspangle4368 Месяц назад

    Think we will ever get new armors in the super store??

  • @guardiantko3220
    @guardiantko3220 Месяц назад

    Ah, but misty said it was entirely so they can push mass bans. SOLELY the only purpose is for bans

  • @digivagrant
    @digivagrant Месяц назад +1

    Good thing Im already playing a good bug game.

  • @Willyoustandintheend
    @Willyoustandintheend Месяц назад

    Let’s be very honest the devs and cm said make it know where it counts so we did

  • @COA5T
    @COA5T Месяц назад

    @5:00 If you go and look at the comments under Grummz tweet, everyone is actually agreeing with Spitz and praising him as a CM for that response.

    • @GlitchUnlimited
      @GlitchUnlimited  Месяц назад +1

      Yes yet I think it's also divided though. Some approve of the change and some not so much.

    • @COA5T
      @COA5T Месяц назад +1

      @@GlitchUnlimited Agreed. I'm one of those Divers that don't really care because honestly this does not affect me one bit even though I also play on Steam. I had my account linked Day 1 before they disabled linking.

  • @joshm3484
    @joshm3484 Месяц назад

    First Stellar Blade and now this.
    Sony has "advanced" from secretly installing rootkits on PCs to used car salesman like bait and switch tactics.

  • @chunkypapa
    @chunkypapa Месяц назад

    Hope these devs start hiring competent CMs for their games and understanding what a bad CM can do to your reputation in the long run. Seen so many bad clueless ones, I'm starting to feel like it is mostly a role reserved for nepotism. What kind of CM encourage people to leave bad review towards a group of actively angry gamers?

  • @Mrfronter
    @Mrfronter Месяц назад

    Seems like there are two sides of dev in the company.

  • @HammyD
    @HammyD Месяц назад

    Theres plenty of games that dont need a third party account as well so theres that. Personally I dont read system requirements unless I think my hardware cant handle it so shoving it there is still kind of slimy. They are partnered with sony sure but they could easily show sony what that mandatory account linking is doing already and its not even in place yet

  • @inpotent_potential556
    @inpotent_potential556 Месяц назад

    Honestly I never liked the mods from the Helldivers discord I've seen a lot of times how they banned ppl simply for not agreeing with them in the context of things as little as if they liked the patch or not. I would be happy to see one or other fired like Spitz

  • @hampdog5716
    @hampdog5716 Месяц назад

    Arrowhead made a deal with the Devil (Sony)

  • @ApexBovine
    @ApexBovine Месяц назад

    If having a psn account linked was listed as a requirement from the start, then why did they allow sales to be made in countries where a psn account could not possibly be made? you do not meet the requirements so you cannot buy the game. By allowing access and then rescinding it I feel like they open themselves up to some pretty serious lawsuits, surely? or is this a case of "conditions for your use of our product are subject to change at our discretion?" and your 60 dollars was so you could use their game until they decide otherwise?

  • @everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773
    @everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 Месяц назад

    A reminder that Helldivers 2 EULA never mentions the need for a PSN account.
    Where as for Battlefield 2042 its in the EULA.
    If someone wants a comparison.

  • @hiighcalibre
    @hiighcalibre Месяц назад +1

    Someone needs to be held responsible for this shit, for what the industry has become and if Arrow Head is the wall that publishers like Sony are hiding behind then we need to poke a hole in that wall.
    I like this game a lot, this isn't easy. It's like putting down a dog that contracted rabies. Sometimes you have to kill something you love to protect everything else you love.

  • @Wiseworlduniverse
    @Wiseworlduniverse Месяц назад +2

    It's kind of a strong man bad faith argument if you own a cell phone nowadays your data is being shared so connecting just to play a game doesn't seem like that big of a deal when you have to connect to do so many other things specially if you're a PC gamer

    • @nathanperquin9910
      @nathanperquin9910 Месяц назад

      i dont trust sony or their moderators to not be corrupt petty tyrants so i refuse to be beholden to THEIR tos

  • @Jack-cc3qm
    @Jack-cc3qm Месяц назад

    I propose we just all run 120, 380, walking barrage and 500kgs, and sudoku every match with them.

  • @dreamshakejunya
    @dreamshakejunya Месяц назад +1

    Anxiously awaiting the *SONY Launcher* coming as a result of this.

  • @therookie21gaming
    @therookie21gaming Месяц назад

    I mean here is the real problem, you were allowed to purchase a game on steam, even if it was Sony Region locked for you, and now you are losing access. On top of that there is also the issue of what they are saying doesn't match up with what players have experienced. I purchased the game slightly after release, there was never a screen that told me to create or link a PSN account, nor did anyone ever mention having to do so, even if the store page has had that info block at the start. At the very least at the time of purchase it should have warned those players about potential region issues, instead Steam, Sony, and Arrowhead were all too happy to let you purchase their product without warning.
    If this were a labeling issue you could compare it to Peanut Butter Flavored Ice Cream having always printed on the label, "Contains Real Peanuts" but the print was on the nutritional information side, not the front. Tons of people with an allergy bought the product, it was not clearly listed on the front, and now they are all suing the company for their allergic reactions since the label wasn't clear enough for the common consumer.
    Either way this goes, I already had distaste for this game, since we constantly see the devs try to balance their game before it is even truly ready for balancing, they are too invested in cranking out new content that their basic gameplay features and tools that the players use aren't even fully working. Though they will absolutely nerf the paid warbond weapons into the ground in 4 weeks when the new warbond is coming out. This news came out at a really bad time overall.

  • @astronite1220
    @astronite1220 Месяц назад

    IF I DONT HEAR SPITZ IS FIRED IN NOT P[L[AYING THIS GAME ANY MORE

  • @MAXIMUMintheHORMONE
    @MAXIMUMintheHORMONE Месяц назад

    Lay with dogs, get up with fleas. Uninstalled.

  • @Cuthawolf
    @Cuthawolf Месяц назад

    Spitz is wilfully missing the point, that it's about data security and a possible inability to even make the account, that's the issue. Sad to see a community manager do so much damage to his own community.

    • @nathanperquin9910
      @nathanperquin9910 Месяц назад

      there is a third issue, wich is that sony has been blatantly anti gamer for a while now and this linking would make you beholden to their TOS, so they can ban you for basically anything you do they dont like

  • @cowboychamploo5021
    @cowboychamploo5021 Месяц назад +1

    Looks like we are out a favorite game as well as 40-60$ depending on if you went above and beyond to support the devs. Thanks again Sony. Consistently farming L's for so long its almost impressive..

  • @Hallreaver
    @Hallreaver Месяц назад

    I do feel sorry for Pilestedt, he and his team has made an incredible fantastic game.
    I did not realize that when i bought HD2 that it needed a PSN, my bad i suppose, but well, i won't ask for a refund for the game for my mistake,
    but i won't get a PSN, 1: because i will never use the PSN account, as i do not have a PS4/5, 2: I do not want to share my Steam with KuSony, so i will simply stop playing the game.
    Have fun, those of you that do not mind the PSN and go support Arrowhead!

  • @robozombie9026
    @robozombie9026 Месяц назад

    Steam is refusing to give refunds to anyone

  • @alecday3775
    @alecday3775 Месяц назад

    I think i have a theory as to why they are doing this and here is my theory on this: it is due to them losing A CRAP TON of subs due to the Stellar Blade censorship backlash (For those of you who are unaware, Sony capitulated to the whiny crybabies in the gaming "journalism" space and told Shift Up to censor the "Hard R" graffiti, the "Holiday Bunny" outfit in which that was a lot of peoples' favorite outfit in the game along with a few others, toned down the violence a little when the team over at Shift Up marketed the game as uncensored in all countries meaning they LIED to the audience thanks to Sony and now there is this petition started by formoer WoW developer Mark Kern to hopefully restore the game to what was advertised in which there is a whole situation over that as well where he had a BOUNTY PUT ON HIS HEAD over it and everything lesser than that in which proves that there are people who are not all there upstairs on X and these gaming "news" outlets) and they are pulling THIS MOVE BY FORCING PC PLAYERS TO SUBSCRIBE TO PSN to COMPENSATE for the lost subs on that front. So they are compensating one BAD decision with ANOTHER EVEN WORSE DECISION. How STUPID CAN ONE COMPANY GET???? They REALLY NEED TO LEARN to when to take the L and MOVE THE F*** ON. They ARE TANKING the ONLY GOOD MULTIPLAYER GAME OUT THERE RIGHT NOW for THEIR OWN [[[[[[[[STUPID]]]]]]]] GREED.

  • @danielryan4050
    @danielryan4050 Месяц назад

    I guess the Xbox port isn't going to happen now.
    Can you imagine Microsoft allowing their largest competitor mandating that you must create an account with their competitor for a game you're playing on an xbox?

  • @ivisyung3088
    @ivisyung3088 Месяц назад

    EA games on steam had needed account linking way before this issue. This is not new

  • @SteelFr0nt
    @SteelFr0nt Месяц назад

    Apparently steam is accepting all refunds for hell divers 2 right now I’m probably gonna do it I love the game but I don’t trust Sony I’m gonna give them a few days to see what happens

  • @sgtmudflaps7942
    @sgtmudflaps7942 Месяц назад

    If they ever cross platform over to Xbox, will i need a PSN account to play? Asking for a friend.

  • @khalel610
    @khalel610 Месяц назад +1

    127k dislikes and growing. Helldivers are really fast spreading democracy against SONY.

  • @DonJohnson-rd5yd
    @DonJohnson-rd5yd Месяц назад

    Sound like somebody's getting paid to smooth things over for Arrowhead

  • @Terrince_Tate
    @Terrince_Tate Месяц назад +2

    "I trust Sony with my life,"
    - Some progressive Beta.

  • @simonphoenix3789
    @simonphoenix3789 Месяц назад +1

    I don't really blame arrowhead for this, they have been incredible at communicating with the playerbase so far. But this is still a scummy thing to do by Sony. I have to wonder if it was intentional- letting people skip the PSN signup at launch so it wouldn't turn off people and make them refund, only to suddenly announce months later after tons of copies have sold that it was actually mandatory and they are going to bring it back. This whole justification about it being for "security" sounds like a bunch of bs. griefing isn't that big an issue, especially since its so easy to kick people off. If anything the problem is how some people just randomly kick without justification. But it hasn't been that big a deal compared to the bugs and balancing issues.

  • @toonstyle1
    @toonstyle1 Месяц назад

    dont blame arrowhead for that.... they signed the frikin contract!!!!!

  • @danieljensen2626
    @danieljensen2626 Месяц назад

    Regarding leaks, is there anything stopping you from making a PSN account with a throwaway email and entering fake information? Seems like that might work in other countries too, just say you're in the US or something. Maybe you'd need a VPN, which is admittedly a pain. So far I've been able to play without making an account, but if they make me I'm definitely just going to say I'm John Doe born in 1891 or some bullshit.

  • @SonAlexander
    @SonAlexander Месяц назад +3

    The simple fact is, Arrowhead made a deal with the devil and now they are facing the consequences of that decision.
    While they aren’t solely to blame for this, they do share in it.

  • @Psychedel1x
    @Psychedel1x Месяц назад

    their discord community manager has to go back to flipping burgers lol

  • @teamofone1219
    @teamofone1219 Месяц назад

    I’m not going to play until they don’t go through with it. I’m giving hackers an easy backdoor to my shit.

  • @handimanjay6642
    @handimanjay6642 Месяц назад

    I have a PSN account however, this means anyone that doesn’t has to fork over $100 a year to Sony.

  • @jonasmcneal2382
    @jonasmcneal2382 Месяц назад

    Sony will go back on this decision, just you wait

  • @netrunner7108
    @netrunner7108 Месяц назад +1

    Walked away after the last update being so terrible. Good timing, and I do have PSN and steam, but ... no

  • @RoseSapphic
    @RoseSapphic Месяц назад

    Shats it going to take to get Spitz fired I really hate that CM

  • @ericb1882
    @ericb1882 Месяц назад

    so... say no, I blame them both.

  • @windrider970
    @windrider970 Месяц назад +1

    you think you hate community managers enough, but you don't

  • @kristatum6688
    @kristatum6688 Месяц назад

    They should just attack sony and just be disappointed at arrowhead
    It did say u needed a psn to play the game when it came out but wasnt enforced on release because it needed to be disabled because of the bugs
    Hopefully helldivers can get through these rocky times and can become big like bunjie one day

  • @purplecrayonchewer
    @purplecrayonchewer Месяц назад +2

    I don't think certain comments from Arrowhead have helped them. We all know this is Sony's decision. Im just sad because we will loose alot of helldivers over this. Not me I'll bite the bullet I think. But can see why people are pissed. Sony just dropped a 500KG on their whole game

    • @GlitchUnlimited
      @GlitchUnlimited  Месяц назад +1

      You are right! I don't think it helped them out one bit with some comments. The CEO probably should have been the only one to comment on the matter.

  • @zevo8293
    @zevo8293 Месяц назад

    I guess I won’t be playing my favorite game anymore🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m not linking my information to Sony

  • @bgdaddy42069
    @bgdaddy42069 Месяц назад

    i have a psn account i just dont wanna link it i dont link any of my account unless i have to but i try to stay away from game that do the linked account shit. i feel bad for all the people that got the game and cant make a psn account

  • @BRUTHADAHERO
    @BRUTHADAHERO Месяц назад

    Dont rally hackers to do it over a video game though tf????

  • @Tacocat0804
    @Tacocat0804 Месяц назад +1

    May want to find ways to lock down your money if you get the PSN account.

  • @ursinrath6705
    @ursinrath6705 Месяц назад +1

    Do not comply.

  • @austinharbourn1045
    @austinharbourn1045 Месяц назад

    I don't even have a play station. Why would I waste digital space for a useless account?

  • @TerryD5000
    @TerryD5000 Месяц назад

    what about the people living in those countries that dont want a Fing psn account or their identity or credit information stolen??? we acting like this gunna be a big win if they can get that, my arse. thats how they'll play it tho.

  • @brigandboy1425
    @brigandboy1425 Месяц назад

    Operation Overload is a success so far. Mostly negative/Mixed on steam.
    Never buying another Arrowhead or Sony game as long as I live basically.

  • @fenixtek
    @fenixtek Месяц назад

    Arrowhead and Sony helldiving their game.