NEW MECHS, NEW WEAPONS COMING SOON - MechWarrior Online
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B33F is going to have a lot of fun with these new toys
If PGI introduced a Wet Noodle as a new weapon, the B33F would somehow figure out how to kill you with it.
Look closer on the left arm of the Black Knight, mech has 2 missile hardpoints on the left arm. The sword kinda block the lower mounted missile launcher.
That thing's absolutely packed with weapons!
theres well over 1,000 mech variants already; the LAST thing this game needs is just mechs. We need a complete overhaul of the faction war mode that no one plays, new game modes, and some sort of progression system.
YES, but... They will never do it. I don't believe they can fix Faction War... In fact, Faction Mechs, highlighting the styles of combat that each House does, would have been 1,000 times better than the terrible legendary mechs. They can't seem to be able to fix Match Maker either... Sad really...
In Table top you had std LRM, Artemis targeting, thunderbolt ammo. In the SRM's (srm2) you also had Inferno loads that add heat for a short duration. tbh, I'm surprised that they haven't added them sooner.
According to lore, the Red Reaper is as follows:
BL-X-KNT Black Knight "Red Reaper"
Based on a BL-9-KNT chassis, this personal ride of Reginald VanJaster was created during the Word of Blake's occupation of Solaris. The standard weaponry was removed and replaced with a Large Shield and Large Vibroblade for hand to hand combat, while five Medium X-Pulse Lasers inflict huge amounts of damage in close quarter combat. For long range firepower, a single Heavy PPC paired with a PPC Capacitor are used. The whole 'Mech is protected by thirteen tons of light ferro-fibrous armor. Fifteen double heat sinks are available to dissipate heat.
There's no thunderbolt ammo for LRMs. What you might be thinking of is Thunder munitions, which are minefield missiles. There was also Follow-The-Leader missiles, which dealt all of the launcher's damage in a single location, at a large accuracy malus.
@@Elit3Nick I think the systems you might be referring to are iterations made in video games of Battletech whereas I'm talking about Tabletop.
There are mechs none of the Video games have ever seen that I can recall like the Wasp and Stinger or on the other end of that scale, the Goliath and I get why but still as the most iconic mechs (Wasp and Stinger) in Battletech lore that are seen in most writings, never appeared in the games oddly.
I dunno why. Maybe they considered them "Too Robotech looking"
@@Elit3Nick and No, I'm not mistaken about Thunderbolt Missiles. They were developed primarily for Solaris 7 arena combat in 3053 according to lore and were restricted to the RT/LT of the mech but were not widely deployed / used because of their bad effects on the firing mech. When hit they caused severe damage to the mech and had extreme heat issues.
Our gaming group wrote Tech Readout 3050 for FASA back in the day and did it's play testing which was then edited and published by FASA by one of their editing teams who quickly nerfed our mech designs because on Tabletop, mech design did not have "hardpoints" but rather open slots that you put equipment into and with the release of the Clan UAC20's, a 100 ton mech could carry 3 of them and obliterate an Atlas in a single alpha volley (This was the Original Rhino where it had an UAC20 in each arm and 1 torso mounted like the Mad-9r's AC5).
Thunderbolt ammo came in LRM 5, 10,15 and 20 loads firing a single missile and hitting a single hit location on the mech.
www.sarna.net/wiki/Thunderbolt_Missile
@@ArkLord001Thunderbolt =/= Thunder LRM. There were all sorts of variant ammos over the years, but Thunderbolts were a whole other launcher, firing larger, singular missiles in comparison to the multi-missile volleys of LRM launchers. Thunder LRM ammo was the minelayer variant of standard LRM launchers. I think there were some Thunderbolt variant ammos that did various things, but don't recall a mine-laying variant for the Thunderbolts. There was the Arrow IV FASCAM so it wouldn't surprise me to find such.
@@ArkLord001Google "Battletech the Unseen." Many of the early mechs were, well, either stolen or mixed up in licenses that the creator had not granted, and thus vanished after many lawsuits. While FASA didn't exactly "steal" these, they were basically stolen from Robotech and a few other mangas of the time. The Wasp, Stinger, Archer, Marauder, etc. And the companies making the video games had no desire to get caught up in these lawsuits, which went on for nearly 15 years IIRC. Even some of the reworked artwork was sued for being too similar to the original, stolen artwork.
3 missiles ? i see 4 missile hardpoints the one sneaky one that has a few tubes sticking on the arm behind the sword
1 on the top of the arm on the torso location, 1 on the arm behind the sword, 1 above the hip same side as the sword. All appear to be SRM6's. 3 missiles.
To me this looks like 5 med X-Pulse, 2 Snubs and 3 SRM6's
oh I see it now. 4 missile hardpoints. My bad
I'm not really sold on the Black Knight design, it looks a bit too LEGO-ish to my tastes. The Warhawk, on the other hand, is gorgeous.
That Warhawk skin is one of the best the game's ever had, I think.
I might be one of the few that think the skin is just... yuck or meh. I find it to be way too busy and with those fan bolt-ons, it just becomes tacky to me. This is totally a personal opinion though. I prefer simple and uncluttered looks.
@@laggybum3218 It's a "Dekotora". It's SUPPOSED to be way too busy.
@@Grimmwoldds Like I said; not my style.
Getting it!
Hah, the Continuous Beam Laser! That's giving me nostalgia from the Mektek days...
if only mektek actually went and optimised all the weapons ... yea it added tons of neat and broken stuff ... but didn't fix any issues
When the new weapons come out, will we have to disable sound mods we’re using? Also, man I’m stoked for the silver bullet!
Fun video, thanks for the summary Phil!
4 missle on the red reaper. Look at the sword to the right is a fist mounted missile pod
There is another missile hardpoint on the hand. You can just see two missiles in their bays past the hilt of the sword when you opened the first image of the Red Reaper II.
Unable to stunlock with the plasma cannons? Boo!! I want to melt my enemies!! With the changes to missiles and the addition of the Thunderbolt missiles, I really think they need to bring back the score modifier for AMS. Maybe not as strong as it was, but give us something. I generally use laser AMS on light mechs and have to choose between firing my weapons or shooting down missiles quite often because of heat concerns. This directly impacts my damage output and thus my score.
I’m looking forward to plasma cannons! Also that black knight is looking choice as heck!
4SRM6,2SNPPC,5SL its gonna be a 7e,4m.
btw the redreaper (that this is based on but changed for MWO)
is a shield and vibroblade. with a HPPC+capaciter and 5MXPL.
that looks like 4 missile hardpoints. one just behind the sword but you can see 2 tubes on the new black knight
People been asking for melee since the inception of MWO. "Best we can do is a toy sword". Bah. BAH I SAY. I got excited for a split second there.
they don't have an engineer with knowledge on the cryengine any longer to do that, so melee is currently only available in MW5 as that uses the unreal 4 engine
man i remember tbolts those were awesome. now if they could only add hammer missiles with the charge set timer so i can skillshot players legs out.
doubtful cause i think it would require engine work for the timermechanic to implement that weapon
i think mechmortars would be more likely
Looks like 4 missile hardpoints not three, there is another one partially obscured by the sword
thunderbolts are their own thing really, the IS equivalent to ATMs would be MMLs (Multi Missile Launcher)
Ya they were more like antimech mini icbms iirc
@@ironjavelin7482 ...... hhmmmm i think that would rather be arrow IV missiles with davy crockett ammo (or on the longtom artillery), but maybe you are right
@@MrTBSC iirc the thunderbolts and arrow 4s are the same firing style but meh ill double check sarna
Depending on firing mechanics and cooldowns, the AP Gauss might be an absolute menace.
10 bucks says AP gauss and mag shot will also have a short charge like regular gauss ... i doubt they gonna treat them like "medium lasers" or short range AC 2s (or AC 3 rather)
What's the Beam Laser based on in the lore? What are it's stats in tabletop? Probably not on RISC Hyper Laser, though that would be a cool and probably rather broken long range weapon.
it looks like the light ac's are going to be the pirate light rifles from mw5 it looks like mwo is going to import a lot of weapons from that game
That early morning drop.
warhawk is pretty attractive. I was actually hoping I could use IS HPPC 😄
clan and is tech is devided, next best thing for a more damaging clan ppc would be capacitors
Interesting update, but looks like it could be a lot of fun, especially the Warhawk. I keep hoping that one day the Thug will be added to MWO and/or MW5
i want the grand titan for once ... an actual marik made 100 ton mech
45 degree shield toggle able by the same action as missile door open/close.
don´t you mean 90° as in to toggle it from the side fully to the front?
@@MrTBSC maybe but Phil was talking about 45
@@zapa47 ah right, on second thought 90 degrees may not be possible due to collision of the arm with the torso and animation being limited with the shoulder
Bring us use'able melee weapons. It would be Great to run out of ammo. then charge in to melee and start swinging.
Every time I see a mech in this game holding a melee weapon, it makes me a little bit sad and angry because we don't have melee mechanics in the game. It makes it a bit difficult to take seriously any mechs holding melee weapons when the weapons do literally nothing but look pretty.
Wow, those are two beautiful builds. I look forward to them on the battlefield! Thanks for the great review!
I might jump into MWO just to test out all the weapons that got added and soon more. Not played since 2017/18😆 I just hope MW5 dlc and MW5 Clan news arent far behind this content update
Patch notes vid covers hardpoints and quirks
Wish you could actually move your are to the front of the mech and shoot with the other hand like a Riot Shield.
My only question: why do the clans get there plasma cannon, when it was the Inner Sphere who invented plasma tech with the superior plasma rifle? Way earlier too.
what i rather wonder is HOW they gonna implement it
both plasma cannon and plasma rifle as well as chemical lasers are ammunitionbased energy weapons
but the description says "lighter variant of a ppc" ..... sooooo i'm expecting an implementation that strongly deviates from the sourcematerial
and as such if the IS plasma rifle were to be added in a similar fashion to what i'm thinking it would be just another addition the IS group of PPC weapons, considering the plasmarifle is damagefocused than meant for causing heat .... and you already have plenty energyweapons that do that
I'm thinking with the utter dominance of the IS Binary Laser Cannon in MWO that PGI is trying to balance the Clans by giving them a weapon in a similar vein.
I do take issue with this, as the Binary Laser Cannon, as good as it is, nearly invalidates large lasers entirely on just about any design.
I hope for better balancing soon.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCK Clan had heavy large lasers long before that ... if binaries are as dominant as you say all PGI needs to do is just to tweak heavy lasers then ... i don´t see how a plasma cannon should be similar to a binary cannon at all.
One is a assault level heavy laser useable on limited hardpoints, the other would be more of a utility/debuffing tool with damage atop of it.
Sounds like they grabbed the plasma rifle and called it a cannon.
clan plasma cannon does exist, still doubt it's gonna be like the actual battletechweapon
4 x STM Missile Hard Points bro..
It's good to see actual new content added to the game. Maps don't count, specially because PGI removed others in turn, so in the end it doesn't really feel like there are a lot of them.
"MaPs DoN´t CoUnT" .... the random person on the internet has decreed what is and isn´t content ... there you have it lads
"removed others in turn" because they were flawed they were taken out of the quickplay rotation you still have most of them in training grounds and lobbymatches, so that content is still there
mrm black night.
As an Semi-absend MWO Player those are some great News to hear. The Thing ist:Most ppl who went away from the Game or ppl who had alot of frustration about this Game will probably ask why now, why did this happend not sooner ? IMO the more Important Question is what are the Lessons learned what what are the Action "PGI" or upper Management had to take to keep a stady Playercount /See Growth?
Same story with Elite Dangerous...possibly too little, too late.
The Black Knight II looks awesome! Can’t wait to pick it up.
So have they actually balanced the HAGs already, to be planning adding these new weapons?
lol "balanced" so when hags came out they had spread now they dont have spread but now they splash the target so no they really didnt
It got nerfed to 4 dmg/projectile with 0.5 splash to adjacent limbs, so less absurd pinpoint damage with 16/24/32 damage per burst for hag20/30/40 respectively even if they buffed the burst duration to be shorter.
Technically it's still more than the gauss rifle but at longer ranges the projectile speed still isn't "literally hitscan" so it's not like the full burst will hit your target, and HAGs having relevant amount of heat makes them inferior to C-UACs at those ranges.
@@stranger7131 A bit iffy because damage goes through shielding and armor rolling.
@@stranger7131 the heat on hag 20 s barely matters
as for the hag 30 being inferior to uacs i find arguable, sure heat and greater cooldown matter but uacs still can jam
also imo you can still land that 24 pin +6 splash better than that dual uac10 or single uac 20 double tap
It all sounds very good to me. I’ve been enjoying the legendary mechs. Though the last two were a bit meh to me. But it all looks good for the new legendary mechs.
Your getting blinder Phil. Looks like there's a 4th missile pod hidden behind the sword
All existing Black Knights have either 8 or 9 weapon hardpoints and they decided that giving this one 11 weapon hardpoints and a shield would be appropriate? They can't even use lore as a reason for the inflated hardpoints since in lore it had 6 energy hardpoints plus the sword and shield.
While 6 weapon hardpoints plus the shield is too few, going all the way to 11 plus the shield is absurd. Going to 8 weapon hardpoints would still give it as many weapon hardpoints as the BL-6-KNT and the BL-7-KNT-L while still getting a shield on top of that.
Where’s the Turkina? Wtf. We need Turkina.
I hope the next MW5 dlc is Solaris, but whatever it ends up being, I hope we get RACs, and more mech paint jobs are always nice. If it isn't Solaris, then maybe the first wave of the Clan Invasion, though that seems unlikely. I also really want a Catapult variant like the K2, but with ballistic instead of energy hardpoints in the arms.
Not trying to rain on your parade but RACs aren't available until 3062.
Are there any weapons available during that time period that aren't already in the game?
What is 'Stun Locked'?
Cockpit shake of Doom.
Melee weapons are dumb if you can't use them.
5:56 - Yuck. Another hardpoint-inflated mech.
Gotta make up for the lack of GIANT SWORD and the ability to MELEE WITH SAID GIANT SWORD somehow...
oh no this non clan mech has so meany hard points that 1 you find hard to full with useful weapon ranges 2 be able to keep the fight going and 3 ONLY CLANS MECHS CAN HAVE ALL THE HARD POINTS.
@@jordanrea2311 I don't think even Stone Rhino or Mad2C can hit the hardpoint limit (16), only the CRD can. Well there's also the Piranha I guess.
But yeah, Stone Rhino is one of the more blatantly powercreep chassis in the game, some of the variants are statistically just flat out better than Mad2C even.
stone rhino the more laser focused variants can hit the hardpoint limit ... however the other variants that include ballistics and/or missiles along WITH energy ... well those simply are mix and match battlemechs
still gonna get me the SR4 (?) i thin, the ballistics focused variant with missile hardpoints ... but madcat 2 ? na not gonna take that one just cause everyone and their mother uses it
I'm hoping Mags and AP Gauss don't have terrible charge up times or can only fire X number at a time, even though I'm sure they will... I want to boat like 10 of them on a Piranha.
Absolute nightmare hahahaha
Not going to be a member sorry Phil. But might see you in game. In game ID Nyuudude and it's pronounced as nude.
these are the most tempting mechs to me that they have made in a while.
I have a feeling that we will see that Black Knight in the next MW5 add on.
4:27 you that's one of the thing Im excited about this game, because in the past we have asked for melee, and they have said "no" as well...too much wishful thinking on my part?
They can not do melee with the Engine that MWO runs on... They've stated this multiple times... It is impossible too do.
i hope they fix lazer weapons im tired of losing because i run out of ammo and lazers have unlimited ammo its so unfair
Thats odd complaint. Its trade offs, lasers are generally hotter with longer cooldowns so a lower overal DPS compared to auto cannons. Auto cannons trade higher dps for travel time/ammo. Packing at least 1K/1.5K dmg in ammo should last the match (double that for LRMs). Burning through ammo before match end comes down to not picking good shots or not having enough from the start.
@@Daeon108 WRONG
@@alexwest2514 they changed heat dissipation specifically on clan laservomit and double heatsinks to be less effective and changed the dissipationration on coolshots imo significantly enough ... lasers are fine as they are ... if you still have issues cause you purely focus on ballistics without adding backupweapons to your build ... that's a you problem ... especialy since ballistic ammo has been recently increased per ton ...
good counterargument by the way .... NOT!
CooL
i dont get the light AC2/5. AC5 are already trash, why do we need a more trash version. Only thing I see is some lighter mechs being able to boat them. Now they just need to implement the melee
melee is not gonna happen as pgi no longer has an engineer with knowledge on the cryengine
i disagree with you on the ac 2 and ac 5 ... AC 5 pairs very well with er ppcs
AC 2 while requiring multiples of are still good ranged firesupportweapons in MWO than compared to the battletech tabletop ...
i run a triple rac 2 and triple ac 2 annihilator and that build dishes out damage well over range and does a good job when going in to clean up ... "but facetime" yea that simply is the downside of such weapons but i take it
@@MrTBSC AC2s are fine, its the AC5 that blows. LONG time ago, AC5 were great, they fired a lot faster than they do now. Unless you are boating them its just a lot of meh. too slow to fire for the damage. I may also just be annoyed that some of my favorite mechs from yesteryear got the nerf bat when they changed the AC5s.
My question is will any of these fancy toys be added eventually to MW5 to give players options? Because as of right now the only things they keep adding is new campaigns and one new mech type, but no new weapon content...and while there is a lot of options out there mod wise. Not everyone wants to install mods, and not many people can RE: people playing on console if there are any that are still playing it. I feel like since theres still One DLC left maybe they could put a huge weapon content update to MW5 with its final DLC sendoff?
None of these weapons are anywhere near the Timeline for MW5 so no... Course PGI doesn't seem to give a feck about Canon... So maybe...
@@steelshanks1265 I mean yes, but you as a player can continue playing until basically your face turns blue. Going well past clan times etc. The amount of weapons you're able to play with feels limiting. Especially if you're just playing the mercenary endless loop on your own.
Last two legend mechs sucked big time they have to do something better and it's a pity this game is way off balance