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- In the second part of the interview featuring Garand Thumb and his wife, Ashley, we delve into a captivating discussion on various cultural facets. From exploring concepts like individualism to examining hedonistic behaviors, this conversation sheds light on prevalent societal political biases, ultimately guiding you back to fundamental truths.
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Mike is right about the rebounding in young conservative men. From my circles I am in I see a lot more of them working out and getting fit or the desire to as well as pushing back against hookup culture, porn, and other degeneracy. Also a huge uptick in Christianity. I am hopeful for our generation.
I agree with everything other than Christianity. I think religion brings a sense of community, regardless what you practice. The facts and beliefs may not be factual but the community it builds I think is what draws people to it. Same with Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, etc
@@killjoy117007Christianity is the only true religion, the rest are not
Yup, also seeing this as well. Whether or not it sticks is a whole other discussion, though.
@@blbreptiles4126 debatable bud
@@ATSxHaTxTrIcKx not at all, read "The case for Christ" by Lee strobel
I love that you guys covered the importance of finding a partner that will work on the same team with you and will want to build that with you. Love it.
I really enjoyed this. It’s refreshing to see the “other” side of the business .
37:52 amen
What happened to the other women? I'm confused
last live on the channel
@@thegirlsgoneright ok my bad didn't look hard enough.. good stuff keep up the good work yall
You know these are great videos when an hour feels like 20 minutes.
I love that🥹
YES! Literally this! I love these videos, the host, the guest, its lovely:)
@@PimSchouten you are fantastic.
Thank you @girlsgoneright and thank you to Mike and Ashley for a refreshing insight into a conservative marriage and culture.
Are you kidding????
Love seeing Mike talk about more serious stuff in long form content.
I cracked up every time Mike looked at the camera lol
As a guy who also "Technically" works for his wife (she owns 100%), this was a great video and I really enjoy hearing Mr and Mrs Garand talk about their marriage.
Whenever my wife and I loose our temper and snap at each other, we say " Do Over?" And then we rephrase or calmly respond. Works great.
If you've ever found that solid relationship.....go ahead and hit that subscribe button 😂
Attack helicopters, he/her/this/thats and my often forgotten, but not by me... Fellow Christians! Like and subscribe.
@@Kremit_the_Forg "okay, well that's all I've got for you guys........one last thing!"
While I can understand this idea of "I should be able to trust my significant other going out at night". The problem is, why are you going out at night without your significant other? Would your married parents do that? It's not only disrespectful, but clubs and bars ( or anything related ) are a place you go to drink and meet people of the opposite sex.
This is a can of worms that has no business being opened if you give a shit about the health of your relationship or marriage. Boundaries are the foundation of your commitment, and they must not only be made aware but committed to.
He was cheating the past few months. Even while this post was made
@@csbwdbseriously?
100% truth on the young men not being mature until later, but it seems young women are trending the same way. It has been incredibly difficult to as a 28 year old man to find someone +/- 2 years of myself that are not incredibly immature in one way or another.
Examples. Financially irresponsible to the point they are 10s of thousands of dollars in credit card debt, have no self control when drinking, emotionally immature or a general lack of emotional intelligence and how their actions affect those around them.
When I hear these things I think some of it has to do with selection bias. It’s hard for me to believe that most girls in church are immature in terms of impulse control or that they go out and binge drink every weekend, but if you’re looking for a potential partner at bars or clubs then it makes more sense. Obviously culture plays a role in this as well, in very liberal spaces these types of behaviours aren’t really going to be frowned upon, so it definitely isn’t just you
I love how mike always looks at us through the camera 😂
He knows his main channel fans are watching if they found these videos.😂
Looks through the camera into my soul.
Glad to see Mike found a wonderful person to share his life with. I think another aspect of marriage that's hard for a lot of men these days is involving the government in it with no fault states and the state itself almost always making men pay out in way higher amounts with divorce. With women initiating around 80% of divorces, it's just not worth having to pay half your retirement, selling the house and paying alimony for years afterward. I feel it's been designed this way to keep people from wanting to get married....
30:49 100% Agree!
As someone who allowed porn to take over there life for a large part of my 20s I couldn't agree more with Mike. I'm 28 years old (29 next month) and because I allowed my addiction to rules so much of my life from the age of 14 to 24 I'm almost 29 and have yet to actually be in any kind of significant relationship. I let it tear apart friendships, relationships with family members, and a large chunk of my life. I was the stereotypical work of bullshit part-time job making just enough money to get by so that I could go home watch porn and play cod...
If there are any young men that can see any of that in themselves reading this right now please do not go down that same path. It does nothing but destroy your fucking life and rebuilding those broken relationships and friendships after the fact isn't fun. No matter how nihilistic you feel about life there is always hope out there. You just have to put in the work to find it.
Hey, how did porn destroy any kind of relationship or friendship? Is it because you wasted so much time that you wouldn’t spend time with anyone or is it something else? I ask because though I’m not addicted to porn, I tend to stay at home quite a bit even when I don’t have to and I find it really hard to ask my friends to hang out. I know it’s not the best thing in the world, but I’m trying to assess the severity to figure out how much effort and time should I be putting into being social compared to other stuff I have going on
@@juanmejiagomez5514 a lot of it came down to social isolation and depression. A lot of the depression came from being pissed off at myself for wasting so much time watching porn and it was an endless cycle of the more depressed I got the more I wanted to feel better by watching porn and the more depressed I would get because I'm wasting even more time doing it. Eventually it got to the point where I was just ignoring friends and family. If friends asked me to hang out I would turn them down just saying I had other shit to do when in reality I was just staying home doing nothing. Somehow I had convinced myself that I wasn't sure if my friends actually cared about me as much as I cared about them so I didn't even bother trying to hang out. And eventually they stopped asking me because they knew what the answer was going to be.
Turns out I was completely fucking wrong LOL but years of digging myself deeper and deeper into that mindset continued to reinforced my issues.
Hopefully that helps answer your question. Feel free to let me know if it didn't LOL
@@juanmejiagomez5514There have been several published psychological studies showing the negative effects of porn on the mind and body. Everything from lowered testosterone to lowered baseline dopamine levels, which are often the cause for a lack of motivation and energy to do things both by yourself and with others.
I’m in basically the exact same position as OP, only I haven’t had a relationship in 6-7 years at this point. None of my college friends live nearby anymore, and I only have a couple potential friends I could make at work currently. And my roommate, who is currently the best friend I have that’s local (and he is a great friend, and also a life coach by trade) doesn’t really have much in common with me in terms of hobbies/activities.
All of this is to say that close relationships are important, and unless you’re actively building yourself up physically, mentally, and emotionally to a point where you’re confident with yourself, you should be out trying to build those bonds with people. I don’t exactly practice what I preach, but I’m passing on information from people who do.
I’ve been working on becoming a better person, making money, and trying to start a business which is why I feel like I don’t have time or energy to dedicate to developing these relationships, but every time a look at it, I know that’s just a cope so I can satiate my social anxiety. I’d rather do SERE training for a week (which is NOT a fun time) than go out to a party, concert, or event with lots of people, even if I know getting out there and doing things is both not that hard and also good for me.
As a side note, I’ve also heard that one of the biggest predictors of life longevity is how many close relationships you have. I keep thinking about that every time I think about my lack of friends to hang out with, and no gf or wife either.
Food for thought. 👍
Thanks for another great interview, Peyton! Mike and Ash are such genuine people and it's interesting to get their insights. The three of you are proof that there is some wisdom that can be had from good folks even in younger generations.
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I'm 34 and only had a few girlfriends and it gets harder and harder to find any sort of devotion and commitment anymore. The self confidence can lead to loneliness sometimes if you know you won't settle, and the opportunity for good choices in women is getting fewer and further between.
I'm glad to know it can still be found though. I liked GT before this, but he really is an archetype worth looking up to.
Yeah everything he said here was spot-on. Also loved how the guy comes across as grounded and real and not self-righteous like a few others out there. Seems like they have their marriage on the right track for sure.
Dude same boat.
@@firstimeshooter6590 It'll happen.
Guy in my mid-20s and same. Women around my age range suck to be around. The dating pool is brutally depressing sometimes.
@@DigitalApex Since I posted that I found a woman that seems to be perfect for me so far. Traditional values, she has a backbone, kind and considerate, little bit of an edge but not loud or materialistic.
They're out there. Don't settle.
This women speaking about her ex shows she is still pondering about the dude. lol. They are fake. Also see who is speaking. It’s her who wears the pants. He just nods and sits like a dog only speaking less. Gain some experience before marrying = pick up body counts is what she is saying. Big red flags.
I'm going to refrain from the type of vulgar comment I would normally leave on Flan Dads channel, 😂😂 so I'll just say they are both lucky to have each other.
Great insights here! I'm a retired cop living in free America, also known as North Idaho. I wish my wife and I had the same type of conflict resolution and matching communication skills. After 33 years of marriage, it has been tough. We married when I was 22 and she was 25. I can't comment on the obesity thing other than saying I work out six days a week. She doesn't. Mike, this is a side of you that is great to see. You are a true "warrior poet." I love that you both found each other.
Lmfao sounds like you're married to a whale, I bet it didn't start that way. It's sad when spouses love food more then their partner. Good luck old timer
Mr Thumb will always be based #christislord
I am very fortunate. My Wife and I have been together since 1985. We dated for several years before getting married.
For those considering marriage, it's a lot more than physical attraction and love. You need to have the same values. You must both always treat the other with respect. You need a respectful way to make joint decisions. And a respectful way
to resolve conflicts.
But is your partner supportive especially when you really need it! You need to establish what your future goals are before you get married. If one of you wants to have children and the other one doesn't that's a deal breaker if you cannot resolve it. You need to be able to figure out your roles and it's great to be able to change roles in times of stress or change. Are you willing to move if your spouse gets a new job? Having the same political values is very important! My wife and I are on the same page. Her identical Twin Sister has an entirely different set of values and political views. I just smile and avoid conflicts with her. I am not going to change her and it's better to get along with family. And the same with some of my family members.
Amazing! Values ground people and bring you together when they align.
All of these are excellent points... especially about having religion and politics in lock-step with someone. There was someone where we had a strong intellectual connection and agreed about 99% of the time on certain political topics, but we were antipodes when it came to religion, so it was a dealbreaker. In another case, we both had the exact same religious principles and goals, but we were on the complete opposite side of the political spectrum, which also meant it was a no-go.
I'm not saying someone should dump someone they're with because one or the other doesn't line-up, but there will be a TON of (un)necessary conflicts spawned from having differing views on those very important topics. It affects how you view medicine, how you view nutrition, how you view voting, how you view relational matters, and everything else in between. If you don't come to an understanding on those topics then there will be constant friction in the relationship.
Excellent interview! It’s so refreshing to see these conversations surrounding relationships and marriage with solid Godly values. Love to see it. BASED
When not present, there is no structure to live. I absolutely agree.
Just one thing.
M E G A B A S E D
Great episode! I’d definitely love to see more interviews with Mike and Ashley down the road 🙏🏻👏🏻
Speaking about Ashley's previous relationship. Its a true saying that those who are guilty project that guilt on the faithful partner. Finger pointers are usually guilty themselves. That was my last 2 marriages in a nutshell.
My mind is completely fucking blown that he could even sit there with a straight face and answer those questions. Snake in the grass 1000% and he knows it.
Wonderful to listen to this as someone struggling in their marriage. Love to hear both perspectives.
I have to ask though, What is that heavy breathing noise I hear on and off throughout the episode?
I heard it too! 🤣
@@mikewithers299 I was worried I had schizophrenia hahaha
@@humblebeginnings988 nope. Ur sane 🤣🤣
Absolutely amazing interview. The 3 of y’all are awesome.
If you took a shot every time the word "toxic" was said then you didn't make it through the episode.
My wife and i tried to have a baby for almost 10 years. No luck. So yes at this point in our life, we say our dogs are our girls and i bought my wife a dog mom magnet for her car. Do we say theyre our children and act like the example you used? No, but those are our "kids" and id never say it's "jUsT aZ HaRd" to take care of a dog.
I think its a circumstantial thing and how far people go to say they have fur babies.
Anyways, i appreciate the video and work you guys put into it!
Good to see examples of what right looks like. So much straight up trash out there nowadays. And flannel daddy’s right I think we’ve taken a turn in the right direction. Refreshing to see good video gained a sub.
Flannel Daddy definitely ended this night with a 3 way 💪🏻🇻🇮
Most based thing I've heard in a long time.
Hookup culture is one of the hardest ones. So many chicks that are not meant for long term relationship/marriage, how don’t you just want to do that as a recreational thing on the weekend ya know?
My wife 100% does the "Im sitting" thing and in our house we have EMFT " every man for themselves" dinner hahaah
We called it "EMFH" growing up..."Every Man For Himself." 😅 it's cool to see other strangers with same idea & acronym!
My grandpa grew up as a child in great depression as was used to foraging for for food even as a child...it set a precedent for his children who passed it onto their children.
Somebody get this guy on JRE
Not to diminish the collective discussion, because everyone had great points
A very refreshing and uplifting session. Keep on being Godly, humble examples of a life well lived.
You guys kept passing the mic back and forth for no reason…
Sshh it’s funny cuz they don’t know 😅
That damn microphone! 🤣
Just realized pt 2 was up after typing the comment on pt 1 lmfao LETS GO
Karmas a bitch Mike. 💋
Our fighters at the front
Boom! So glad this is finally out 🙌🏻🙏🏻👏🏻
Actually love these two so much!! Relationship aspirations right here.
Don’t get too blinded. He’s been cheating
I guess I am probably an exception to the rule, but I got married at 19 to my wife who was 18 just after she graduated from high school. Marriage has definitely been hard at times, but growing in maturity with the woman you love is something I do not regret at all. This year will be our 9th year of marriage and we now have 3 children. I will say that both of us had a firm spiritual foundation before hand which helps immensely.
Keep up the good work Garand. You are inspiring to a whole new generation of good young men.
We need to see you with your father in law Travis
Oh this gon be good af. Sharing.
🙏🏼 thank you!!
@thegirlsgoneright no prob. Gotta help out other creators. Also love your content and love Mike he's a solid man.
Daddy Garand 😍😍😍
You are 3 yo and all you feel is blind rage. HAAHAHAHAHAH. My son is 3 and a half that is 100% accurate.
Marriage is about commitment. Commitment to each other to pursue happiness, wealth, prosperity, children, a future..... together. The man and the woman both giving 100 percent of themselves for the good of the marriage. If you have a "way out", eventually you will take it. You have to be committed to the marriage. Happiness will come and go. Money will come and go. Health will come and go. It's your decision to stay committed is what will get you through to the end.
Not gonna lie, I'm crushin on the host...she's very wholesome but being a lib in college is a big red flag but if she truly has seen the light/gone right(pun intended) I might be able to turn a blind eye... ; )
Half of the reason young men are also lost is because they most likely didn't have a father figure growing up. That's in part due to the increasing divorce rates, which further exasperates that fatherless childhood issue.
Mike’s ick about Ashley is that she doesn’t get cited for speeding when stopped by police. 👮♂️ 🚘 😂
Use that thumb to hitch hike back to Washington state...
We miss you Garand!
Anti-gun tyranny is crazy messed up here. 😢
that was refreshing. I think maybe divorcing because your spouse gains a little weight is a bit extreme though, cancelled.
If you took a shot every time the word "toxic" was said then you didn't make it through the episode.
If you took a shot every time the word "toxic" was said then you didn't make it through the episode.
If you took a shot every time the word "toxic" was said then you didn't make it through the episode.
Amazing video!
Mike so so true. After work just wanting to go home to your family is an understatement. I also never understood the whole going out over going home. Well said!
Ashley is the main character now @GarandThumb - put your pronouns in your bio Mike! 😆
I've never seen such a positive and mature role model for young men and women seeking the answers to happiness. Very rare to see and I truly believe this is the way to a healthy, happy, nuclear family. Great work Mr. and Mrs. Jones!
As a young man, I can confirm I am pretty lost, family is kinda giga-broken, but I try to stand for more traditional morals, not stray away from being a decent person and look up to people like Mike when it comes to having an example of what to do with life
Very nice to hear a young couple talk about their experiences of a so far successful marriage. It's awesome that they've gotten as far as they have, 5 years. From my experiences, being married 24 years, having 7 kids with a wife 15 years younger than me...there are challenges that challenge the martial relationship. Many things have to be taken into account from many different fronts. But, the thing that I have experienced is that love bears all things through. Yes, there are mandatory value and moral characteristics that are necessary. As they have said, truth and honesty are paramount. Live the best life you both can live and share everything. It is just so refreshing to see younger people who love each other and work so hard to make it a success.
So good to see others who aren't crazy and buying into the complete flip of society.
Mike you should know gluttony is a sin. Read your Bible and attend a local church
Bruh. Love the content but Mr. Jones has this thousand yard stare into the camera! What’s up?!
37:19 I think also people are looking for and needing examples because they might not have had any of it when growing up.
"Break glass in case of war" Its a has hearing aids at 24 kind of life man
I noticed two things above all others: Ashley is glowing - this is a testament to how Mike is treating her and is a visual of how they practice what they are preaching and also gives me hope for the joys of marriage. Secondly, every time Mike starts to talk and then Ashley has something to say, he immediately hands the mic over to her and listens and digests what his wife is saying and lifts her up in agreeing with her and complimenting what she said. Makes me want to be a better listener.
Good portion I agree with, but not everything. That is okay I suppose.
Still just here to see Mike have eye contact with the camera
I dont know how this came across my feed but fuck moi we need more of it
Really great interview, would love to hear more about your faith❤
Everytime mike looks at me my heart stops
We should all be mike
This was awesome! Thank you!!
Thank you for this
Flannel Daddy LFG!
based
Ok, since this is related to his relationship. Wtf is the deal with GT and the cheating/abandonment allegations. I just found out about this shit.
He cheated on his ex at shotshow, left two kids behind
He also cheated within the past few months
@@csbwdb again?
@@SaabStory636 yes
It's so unfortunate that gun ownership overlaps so heavily with conservatism.
Is it? Conservatives are the same people that protect our constitutional rights, which includes your right to bear arms
@@thegirlsgoneright conservatives are not the only people who fight for constitutional rights. They are currently fomenting a rise in fascist ideology, conspiracism, and Christian nationalism, which are not things that are healthy for our country.
It’s not, democrats want to end gun ownership for power and control while the majority of conservatives/libertarians don’t.
The right wing (and far right) are the ONLY fucking reasons why we have gun rights.
Leftists (gun owners or not) ACTIVELY VOTE FOR ANTI GUN POLITICIANS, THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE AWAY OUR RIGHTS AND WANT TO BAN “assault weapons”.
USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN…..
I’m genuinely shocked that there are still Americans that don’t get it. I’m not even an American and I understand that your right to bear arms is protecting (in the most literal sense) all your other rights. That should be apolitical in American discourse
Look up what a "slippery slope fallacy" is 🤦
42:17 😂
How do you fix your brain from porn?
Cling to morals and values and live by them
Your brain will naturally heal if you go long periods without watching it
@@dominicsantiago4385 that's what I'm praying for.
Honestly, just do something else. Occupy yourself with hobbies, go out, and do something. Me, personally, I focused on my career and going to the gym. On the weekends, I made it a point to hang out with friends. Literally anything to keep myself from being bored and inevitably pulling it up on my phone or something.
Because at the end of the day, literally anything else is a much more productive use of your time. Anything.
@@DigitalApex Ya, it's been a struggle since early teen years. So far it's going better. Just need support. I reccomend everyone to give it up.
8:47 The thing I say to “dog moms” is “ok but if you were starving because society had collapsed you’re gonna eat your dog… a real mother would die before she ate her child.”
I’m a moderate and I gotta say the way you all swirled down the classic grift is disappointing. You spend your whole lives focusing on
You're lost, find God
Just some food for thought about what you've said here and some questions to ask for yourself:
What makes it a grift, exactly?
I'm not sure which
You sound miserable.
This just made me dislike Mike a bit, i think he's a great guy but he needs to grow a pair. He's the type of dude that would say "happy wife happy life".
*presses X to doubt*
He's actually the opposite, but okay. But I guess the fact that he's not a misogynist or anything means he doesn't have a pair to you. The guy is just genuinely happy with life right now and the amount of people that just can't comprehend that is depressing.
Humanity is not millions of years old
Hominids are millions of years old. Homo sapiens (humans) are about 300,000 years old. Many people just group “human” into “hominid” in their mental history so I always understand what people mean when they say this, even if it’s technically incorrect.
Or maybe because the numbers are huge, they just overestimate. That’s also a possibility.
Either way, you’re right but it is a bit of a nitpick, don’t you think? Haha
Gotta say, as a Christrian, straight, white male in my early twenties serving active duty in the communist state of California; These two are such an inspiration and give me hope for not only my own future, but the future of our society. I've been in a few less-than-stellar relationships with partners that just didn't share the same morals and world view as me and it definitely starts to wear on you over time. Again, these two on your podcast were nothing short of refreshing and something I really needed right now. Thank you, and I hope there's more to come!
Look up what a "fallacy of tradition" is
You sound incredibly spiteful talking about "dog moms"
Not spiteful, but culture (DINKS, dog moms culture) glorifies the childless life. God calls upon us to be fruitful, and I think using “things” to fill the innate desire to produce should be called out
@@thegirlsgonerightWhy do you feel the need to criticize people who might not have the same religious views as you? They don't feel the need to derive their happiness from having children or getting married. There are many people who regret getting married and having children.
@@kahner93I believe the current statistics around that for women is approximately 10% of women don’t really want kids and don’t have them, 80% of women want kids and have them, and 10% of women want kids but can’t or don’t have them. Either due to genetics, infertility, or waiting too long. This 10% is growing, btw, meaning more and more women who can have kids are waiting long enough to where it’s either not an option or incredibly risky. These are the women that need this message. Everyone else either already has kids, or knows which camp they’re in.
As a non-religious person, I can confidently say that your biology is what makes you want to procreate, and the ~
“Dog moms” need to be called out. You are soft. Man up.
You know this is all good , I have a great love for my girl, respect etc. but Mike you know your walking on the razors edge. This is almost cringe...any dude that watch's this entire thing is under question!! lol
I watched the whole thing(s).....? Glad to be cringe for enjoying hearing people talk about their relationship.
It's not cringe. It's facts.
@@cjreckoner8465 agreed!
Ok, oK, I realized something i didn't realize while writing this, This video isn't for me, I'm secure in what i do, i believe in God & hold a strong belief system across my life in general. Things aren't out of control on this end. What i should have took note of was there are many out there who haven't found their way, who need guidance & this is geared to them. that said, I suspect @adamnash might be one of them.
@@gatormcklusky5850 you are very wrong, sir. I have a great life, good faith, and strong marriage. Maybe you should take more of a learning prospective and not assume you know what you don't. 👍
Dog parents are terrible. Have a brother thats (now) single a dog parent and its saddening. Tried to warn him but to clearly deaf ears.
Isn't that the trans chaser guy? 🫢
What happened?
@blbreptiles4126 I heard Mike has been in a few trans girls' DM's 🫢
Still waiting for evidence and receipts about any part of that. Almost like someone just made it up or something on social media. Weird.
Flannel Daddy giving us dad advice for an hour. 🤌🏼