Queens Park has got to be one of the strangest stations on the LU network. Its situated right next to the WCML and yet its so.... quiet. Fascinating footage mate, its funny to think that the 1938 stock is still around :)
Hi there, yes years back when i worked on the Bakerloo the place was very quiet then. The BR staff were in hiding if indeed there were any on duty! QP was & still is a train crew depot as well as a stabling point so there was LT staff about but the place had the Marie Celest feel about it. Even now it's still a National Rail station although TFL seem to think that their London Overground brand is not part of the nation rail network but it still is, all BR ticketing is still perfectly valid ie Network Card discounts and all line Rail Rovers ect. Lots more rail & underground vids to get up, so happy viewing!
And you can still ride a 38 stock! I never imagined back in 1985 when i chased these last few units i would still be able to see & ride them 35 years later! Great little trains.......and then i shall be over on the IOW to chase the D Stock!
If you ask me, the 38 stock looks a lot more modern than the 59 stock. In fact they still look modern now. The red livery was resistant to graffiti too. Bring back the 38 stock! And the D78 stock! And the Leyland Titan!
This was the Hammersmith to Barking part of the Metropolitan line, which is now the Hammersmith and City line. Both the Hammersmith and City and District lines share the track, signalling and stations between Aldgate East and Barking.
Good video, I have been looking for this sort of footage for years, I loved the Class 501s as I used to travel on them from Watford junction in 1985 ;-)
Yes, it was suggested i put the end cards up after the upload finishes so i thought i'd use the 38 stock leaving Queens Park as 'the parting shot' as it were, and use it to upload the cards! I had done cine film before this but £5 for 5 min of silent film compared to £5 for a 3 hour tape with sound, a no brainer!!!
It is a 1960 tube stock. They used to run on the hainault/Woodford shuttle and one worked the Epping/Ongar line until it closed in 1994, see my upload here ruclips.net/video/3X8GUO9PAOs/видео.html
That train was entering the reversing sidings, having de-trained everybody in the platform. The guard was trying to get some of the heat out of the train in the 10 mins the train was above ground. At that time Bakerloo trains spent most of their day below ground (on a few peak hour trains went to Stonebridge & Harrow) and only came up here. The trains were like a sauna so this was the one place to cool them down a little bit!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus They were class 97s, I think. I think the 936s were de-icing units for Merseyrail, which is where the preserved cars came from.
The 72MkII's started to arrive on the Bakerloo in Spring 1986 (when the line was all 59 stock worked) and each 72 sent a 59 to the Northern. These 72s were normal crew operated (guard in gangway at end of car) ones. Once all 15 MkII's on the Northern had arrived on the Bakerloo in 1987 there was a lull until the Jubilee recieved the 83MkII stock when each new 83 sent an OPO converted 72 to the Bakerloo which then pushed a 59 back to the Northern. I worked a 59 on the Bakerloo for the last time in early summer 1989 after that all the 72MkII's had been OPO converted ready for the lines OPO conversion that November.
After them came the CO/CP stock in 1938, then after the Second World War, a lot of Q38 stock trailer cars were converted into R Stock Driving Motor cars along with new build Non Driving MOtor cars. There was a test train built as the forrunner of the A60s, in the 1950s, and the the A60/62. That replaced steam, the old Watford T stock and the CP stocks, the CPs going to the District to start replacing Q stock. In 1969 the C stock came out and replaced the CO stock on the Circle and Hammersmith Met lines which pushed thye Q stocks from service on the District and East London Lines.....And then the D stock arrived in 1980 to replace the CO/CP & R Stock on the District although some 6 car CO/CPs had been replaced by the C77 stock build.
I used a Panasonic M1 and aftet i wore it out by 1989 i brought a Panasonic M3. By the mid 90s i brough yet another, a Panasonic M9 which lasted until i brought a small digital camera in around 2008. The Panansonic ones all took standard E180, 3 hour long VHS tapes which was a vast improvement on cine film! And, no i no longer have them.
love this rolling stock..feel like an alien on the tube now
Queens Park has got to be one of the strangest stations on the LU network. Its situated right next to the WCML and yet its so.... quiet. Fascinating footage mate, its funny to think that the 1938 stock is still around :)
Hi there, yes years back when i worked on the Bakerloo the place was very quiet then. The BR staff were in hiding if indeed there were any on duty! QP was & still is a train crew depot as well as a stabling point so there was LT staff about but the place had the Marie Celest feel about it. Even now it's still a National Rail station although TFL seem to think that their London Overground brand is not part of the nation rail network but it still is, all BR ticketing is still perfectly valid ie Network Card discounts and all line Rail Rovers ect. Lots more rail & underground vids to get up, so happy viewing!
Lovely stuff. The best tube stock ever - the 38ers - and the infamous Queen's Park shed!
And you can still ride a 38 stock! I never imagined back in 1985 when i chased these last few units i would still be able to see & ride them 35 years later! Great little trains.......and then i shall be over on the IOW to chase the D Stock!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus In 1984, they were quite common, but only during the peak hours.
@@Wildcard71 No, they were still out all day but in much reduced numbers. I had friends who were train crew on the line at the time.....
If you ask me, the 38 stock looks a lot more modern than the 59 stock. In fact they still look modern now. The red livery was resistant to graffiti too. Bring back the 38 stock! And the D78 stock! And the Leyland Titan!
Yes, the 59s were just a slightly updated version of a 38 without quite so much style....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 56 was a better suitor, I think.
something you didn't hear much of in them days - engineering work
But a few more accidents
This was the Hammersmith to Barking part of the Metropolitan line, which is now the Hammersmith and City line.
Both the Hammersmith and City and District lines share the track, signalling and stations between Aldgate East and Barking.
Love watching these videos showing all these rickety ol' turbies running along the lines!
Good video, I have been looking for this sort of footage for years, I loved the Class 501s as I used to travel on them from Watford junction in 1985 ;-)
The first thing you ever filmed? Very impressive. Lovely 38 stock. That's where the signoff clip comes from, then.
Yes, it was suggested i put the end cards up after the upload finishes so i thought i'd use the 38 stock leaving Queens Park as 'the parting shot' as it were, and use it to upload the cards! I had done cine film before this but £5 for 5 min of silent film compared to £5 for a 3 hour tape with sound, a no brainer!!!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus £5 of silent film won the day then 😄
It's nice to see retro rolling stocks.
A lot more comforatble than todays ironing board seat buses and trains......
That was wonderful, a real trip down memory lane. Thank you! :o)
My very first day out with my vid cam, a Panasonic M1 which took full sized E180 VHS tapes, way back in August 85!
In those days travelcards couldn't be used North of queens park as British rail fares applied
Out LT staff passes were though! All the way to Watford Junction as well.....
2mins in and I thought the video was ending!!
Yes, lol... I can see why. That's where 'the (de)parting shot' is taken from......
Lovely footage. Happy days gone by.
I'm pleased you like it. These are the only shots i have of 38s on the Bakerloo and of the BR 501s. It's freaky to think i took it 33 years ago!
Nice this train to caught it! See0:03sec. But which line of this train is?
It is a 1960 tube stock. They used to run on the hainault/Woodford shuttle and one worked the Epping/Ongar line until it closed in 1994, see my upload here ruclips.net/video/3X8GUO9PAOs/видео.html
How were the destination boards changed on the 1938 Stock? I see they don’t have a scroll knob.
You lifted two lugs and the door holding the plates dropped down inwards, you changed them by hand. They weren't attached to anything......
Plus: In the tunnel section, the marker lights were more important.
What the... What all these doors open the train is still moving it is?! My god! See 6:20sec. 😟
That train was entering the reversing sidings, having de-trained everybody in the platform. The guard was trying to get some of the heat out of the train in the 10 mins the train was above ground. At that time Bakerloo trains spent most of their day below ground (on a few peak hour trains went to Stonebridge & Harrow) and only came up here. The trains were like a sauna so this was the one place to cool them down a little bit!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Quite interesting, guess is...
Some class 501's did get converted into class 936's if anyone didn't know
Were they the battery loco's for the Finsbury Park-Moorgate line?......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus They were class 97s, I think. I think the 936s were de-icing units for Merseyrail, which is where the preserved cars came from.
When did the 1972mk2 take over on the Bakerloo Line and the 1959 Stock there going back to the Northern line?
The 72MkII's started to arrive on the Bakerloo in Spring 1986 (when the line was all 59 stock worked) and each 72 sent a 59 to the Northern. These 72s were normal crew operated (guard in gangway at end of car) ones. Once all 15 MkII's on the Northern had arrived on the Bakerloo in 1987 there was a lull until the Jubilee recieved the 83MkII stock when each new 83 sent an OPO converted 72 to the Bakerloo which then pushed a 59 back to the Northern. I worked a 59 on the Bakerloo for the last time in early summer 1989 after that all the 72MkII's had been OPO converted ready for the lines OPO conversion that November.
What came after the q stock among the sub service trains
After them came the CO/CP stock in 1938, then after the Second World War, a lot of Q38 stock trailer cars were converted into R Stock Driving Motor cars along with new build Non Driving MOtor cars. There was a test train built as the forrunner of the A60s, in the 1950s, and the the A60/62. That replaced steam, the old Watford T stock and the CP stocks, the CPs going to the District to start replacing Q stock. In 1969 the C stock came out and replaced the CO stock on the Circle and Hammersmith Met lines which pushed thye Q stocks from service on the District and East London Lines.....And then the D stock arrived in 1980 to replace the CO/CP & R Stock on the District although some 6 car CO/CPs had been replaced by the C77 stock build.
District line train back guard is really strange! 🤔
That was the view the guard's got on the D stocks (as well as 73, 83 & 72MkII OPO converted ones) as their working position was in the rear cab.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Really? Quite interesting, but is pretty strange, no way is no guard as usual is, hmm??? 🤔 Well, nice video anyway.
What camera did you use? Do you still have it?
I used a Panasonic M1 and aftet i wore it out by 1989 i brought a Panasonic M3. By the mid 90s i brough yet another, a Panasonic M9 which lasted until i brought a small digital camera in around 2008. The Panansonic ones all took standard E180, 3 hour long VHS tapes which was a vast improvement on cine film! And, no i no longer have them.