'We knew before everyone else': Idaho lawyer | Banfield
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024
- A suspect was arrested Friday morning in connection with the brutal November stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho students. Shanon Gray, attorney for the Goncalves family, told NewsNation's "Banfield" that Idaho police contacted the victims' families Thursday night before telling the rest of the public that there was a major development in the case.
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It is now very clear that the police were doing their job all along. Will all the criticism be retracted?
And all those making post about teachers, bf's the one girl who says she has 'proof' about the teacher, I'd love to know what she's saying now. She just nailed her lawsuit lid down her own self. Maybe now TikTok will permanently remove her channel since this seems to be her specialty with falsely accusing, like the Morris dude.
“FBI” … but you’d never know by the way news nation covered the case
Or how about all the people accusing both Jacks
Exactly!
According to his neighbor in WA, they called and reported the car weeks ago.
Like the police chief said, keep your mouth shut till they release the news!!
If they had released any information, the media could have ruined the arrest. Because they have to report everything. Some things need to be kept close to the chest till the outcome is achieved
That was a very wise decision.
Absolutely. Any news that's available to us would've also been available to the killer and probably scared him off.
Obviously on the big stuff but didn't they ask for more help from the public after the dad went on the news?That did seem to kick some things into gear and they got the Elantra footage after that I'm pretty sure.Still don't know why they couldn't have gone a mile down the road to get that themselves tho?
DNA and cameras got him. Hooray!
Wouldn"t surprise me if he has kept a diary of some sort, writing down every detail of the experience.
Time to break out all his research papers published as well as any thesis projects
Def gives serial killer vibes
he probably didnt.
His deleted searches will tell all! Cyber footprint.
@@MaryAnn_Nolan They already talked about his Research Papers tonight on Nancy Grace. They will go through everything on this guy Bryan.
Thank God they contacted the families last night. Everyone is praying for them 💕🙏
I agree Carol.
God doesn’t listen to just ANYone
That’s Right!
Unless one is right with His Son Jesus Christ and have had their own immaculate conception by way of Holy Spirit who is mans Witness to it - to be in the spirit as Jesus had to be in the physical - He’s not listening
That’s Right!
Satan is the god of this world
the spirit of it
And God doesn’t associate with those who have religions made up by man nor has any interest in mans opinions they are ALL equivalent to the worLd
LiarS like Satan who falsely accuse God
@Beaudile Each to their own. It may be your God, the universe, the trees around you, or your own consciousness. I think everyone is glad this guy is off the streets.
God has but one pattern for salvation and but one way
Jesus Christ the only set example New Testament !!!
Your 2 sentences are contradictory to one another
God doesn’t give a mixture!
Satan does and has you seduced !!!
I can not even imagine the loss that these families feel. God be with them.
This lawyer owes the Police an apology.
Where was god when they were getting stabbed to death???? I am constantly amazed at how god is misused by people who have no idea at all. If god exists then they were murdered for his pleasure period.
*WeLL, your StuPud GOD, was ObviousLy Out*
*Jacking his wod someWhere!!!!*
@@peterharris38 *GOD MasturBates to these Events!!!*
@@Justin.Martyr wow my god wasn't anywhere because it doesn't exist, just like yours. 🤕🤕😂😛 And did diaper donnie teach you how to write and spell, meaning lot's of caps for zero reason. Anyway when you chat to your god ask him why?
Ashley Banfield should apologize to the investigators for her many comments about their incompetence.
I agree.
I agree. Well said!
How do any of us even know if they even really have the right person?
@@kristopherfigoli5427 LOLOLOLOLOL. grow up
I've heard that several times, but didn't hear her comments. I'm curious what she said, but can probably guess that it's the same dumb things everyone else was saying. Why am I surprised to see so many people lack basic understanding? 🤔🙄
Glad the guy got caught. He probably thought of himself as a genius who would never be caught, but LE brought some reality to him and he'll probably rot in jail. My condolences to all the families and people close to the victims. May God comfort them all. Prayers, from Brazil. 🇧🇷💐
Russians solved it. 😂😂😂😂😂
Hi Ashleigh, I was a big fan. Watched your show every night religiously. I am very disappointed you didn’t apologize for constantly undermining the investigation going as far as asking whether the investigators were competent enough. I would have expected even just a tiny reference about how great and quick this investigation was at the end of the day. Too proud to admit you were wrong all along? Sad and disappointed to say the least.
"Rot in jail?" Can you say capital punishment?
listening to Nancy Grace, DNA just can’t get washed off with bleach; it takes muratic acid; did killer learn that in PhD school??
@@jimsatterfield8748 death penalty; process immediately; plead guilty so families don’t have to see..... what their loved ones went through.....
I honestly couldn't believe how the media was treating this case. how they kept calling it a cold case. They're the ones who kept putting it out there calling it that. nobody that I ever talked to in real life was calling it a cold case, it's ridiculous. Let the police do their jobs.
Media is poison
Exactly, it was a rando from thousands of miles away, that takes time to find compared to a jilted lover or best friend..
Exactly but Steve Goncalves kept saying it was gonna go cold. It wasn’t all Media it was this channel & Fox.
A case isn’t cold when they are still processing evidence.
They kept saying the Case is gonna go cold & LE don’t know what they are doing.
They owe these hardworking LE an APOLOGY.
The "media" is the #1 #EnemyOfThePeople
Absolutely right! The present day and age, instant gratification. LE knows their job better than the complainers.
So happy for the families, and friends, and relieved for those who were being falsely accused.
Kudos to Moscow PD, Idaho State PD, and the FBI for getting this suspect arrested. I hope that justice will be served for Maddie, Kaylee, Xana, and Ethan. My thoughts and prayers are with their families and loved ones. 💗
Getting a Ph.D, along with his disturbing questionnaire makes me think he documented the murders in some fashion. Documentation is what it's all about in his trying to get further in his field and get that degree. I believe we'll hear about some heinous acts of his portrayed in a writing of some sort. I noticed the bin of notebooks taken from his apartment during the execution of the search warrant. I pray for the families on what they'll hear.
Much of the information everyone wants to know will be connected to the investigation and won't be shared to the public and likely the families as well. Just like this investigation withheld information leading to the arrest. This is going to be a much longer wait because who knows how long it will be to trial
Good observation.
If he documented his emotions etc etc, that would make for spinechilling reading.
Never thought of it that way which leads me to the thought…did he decide if he’s caught he can complete the paper/research from a prison cell & make a name for himself? People finish degrees from prison.
Who knows what kind of twisted thinking he’s had in it all.
PhDs are AWARDED and he doesn't have one, he's a PhD STUDENT.🤦
Why don't people like you Stanley ever listen properly??
@@hugofitzwilliam8197 yeah, he's not getting a PhD from this! Happy new year btw, glad he'll be ringing in this one and every other till he get the lethal shot. Burglary is aggravating factor for death penalty, think they're going for it!
Ashley needs to come straight out and say she didn't have any faith in the police, offer an apology, and then try to do better in the future.
THE POLICE?
THOSE GUYS WERE CLUELESS UNTIL THE WOMAN FROM THE GAS STATION TOLD THEM ABOUT THE ELANTRA.
@@weeknders the only reason that woman even seen the white car in her video, was because the police had already asked the public for information about the white car. There was a white car found from the night of the murders much closer to the murder scene. Now turn off your caps and stop yelling.
@user-uw5bg8yh5t That's the process of an investigation. You're the one who is CLUELESS..
And thankless..
@@AFloridaSon WRONG.
SHE NOTICED IT ON HER OWN CONTACTED THE COPS.
STOP SIMPING FOR THE COPS. THEY WERE IDIOTS.
SHIT THEY HAD THE STATE POLICE AND FEDS AND THE GAS STATION ATTENDENT CRACKED THIS CRIME.
So many people accused Jack S and Jack D being the killer.
They both deserve apologies
And what about that teacher who has been smeared by the TikTok girl who said she had 'proof'
@@devra5186 I saw many people online accusing people who had been cleared by LE. You think free speech allows you to accuse a person of a crime who has been cleared by OFFICERS of the law just because you speculate? And "this is a public case" - what case isn't public? So, in your mind, some criminal cases are private? Unbelievable.
Totally agree, with you
@@heidim-w1750 I think by "public" they meant that it's a crime that has grabbed the national media airwaves and we all know not all crimes are given this type of attention - From the media and general population.
Who is Jack S and Jack D? I keep hearing this.
People need to apologise to the Police and need to realise that they are not going to hand out info willy nilly evidence about suspects
I have a question does anyone else feel like I do like this man has more victims than these four?
Yes
Absolutely, not his first.
Anyone who studies crime or profiling would say that it’s a distinct possibility that he’s done this before. Only those people wouldn’t call it a feeling, in their cases it would be an educated guess. It has already been posited by experts that it may not be his first. Doesn’t mean it isn’t his first but it’s also a possibility that it’s not. Given the fact that he travels across the country to go home there could be any number of unsolved cases anywhere in the mid US that he has perpetrated that we may never know about.
on my channel I talked early on poss serial killer. the po stepped backed talked about house could be target. reason was a lil more than number 13 but I noticed today a person named david / dave was poss being used. There was a david that posted to me on the victims early on was brought up from a diff. state. I looked at person who posted (david) their account was created day before that killing of that victim. I posted to them to respond early today been no response back. Strange coincidence but it can be just that. In addition a case in oak park came to my atten. I was looking at a traveling poss serial killer. Notice he bryan has to drive through oak park to go to idaho. idk. That case reads similar. unsolved. The case in 2020 diff state is close to date he graduated so idk if possible. Be possibly the weekend prior? to grad. Mean he drove all the way there an came back. Is that likely? idk. All could be coincidence on that portion. Not verified if david is him.
the case in oak park also had dog they did not kill it said a portion looked poss. staged or found what they wanted. they tossed wallet but appeared nothing taken. guy did overkill on women . it was a reddit person who dragged it up but no one looked at it. had 13th also address was in q how they might be targeting ppl. But it was not clear. Seemed early ones changed in nature if that was the case. Really odd to hear today he was in pen. like ok I was looking towards that route already.
You can run but you can't hide! Awesome job by the entire police force.
DNA and cameras got him. Hooray!
@@marknewton6984 Yes, the camera gave the police his identity, and his DNA will convict him
Omg. Lawyer - please don’t call him a “kid.” He is 28 freaking years old. No kid.
Yeah but he might be a virgin. That’s something
I think the lawyer was so accustomed to calling the grad students "kids" throughout the entire interview (the 4 were 21 and 20, definitely not kids), so he slips and calls the suspect a kid too. Annoying..
He will enjoy his stay in prison haha!
He also looks older than a 28yr old too.
@@J.Y.L.A.A.8 that what’s happened if you eat only grass!
Ashley, you know very well that even if they knew of a connection, that's still part of the investigation.
She has been kind of angry lately and pushy !
It's a struggling startup news channel, and I bet this is getting them so many viewers.
So many stupid bloody questions from this desperate hack always searching for a scoop/exclusive.
Did he kill the rog. Practice on the dog?
Dog 😮
It's amazing they got someone in custody quite quickly considering it's a murder of multiple people. I hope they had time to tie up any loose ends. Working under pressure from the families and community can't be easy. Great job to all the law enforcement agencies!!! God bless 🙌 🙏
They wouldn't have made an arrest if the weren't 100%> promise
Why do reporters ask such stupid questions? "Were they getting the 'play by play' as it was happening?" What a daft question. Ugh, proof that intelligence has hit an all time low.
Absolutely BEST comment award!! My mouth literally fell open when she started asking that. I thought this is not Chicago pd.. surely she knows they were not on the phone with these families giving play by plays.. ok, they are putting shoes on him. Now they are about to tie the left shoe ... He is wearing green underwear.. even my 11 yo was like what? Is she really asking if officers were giving play by plays on the phone of the arrest? Like wouldn't actually MAKING the arrest 100% perfect be more important than a play by play run down. I'm sure there will be tons of body camera footage. I was very disappointed in Ashleigh.. and this is happening more frequently. They act like this is the movies. Very well said my friend.
Happy New Year, may you have a safe, healthy and blessed 2023.
Unfortunately, this type of reporter plays to the low common denominator in intelligence - and this case has brought them all out. Eyeballs equal money, even if the eyeballs have no brains behind them.
Right? I pictured Obama in the situation room with the generals etc when they performed the Bin Laden raid... just so dense to think that's how it played out re the Goncalves' being in the loop... But having watched a decent number of Ashleigh's commentary during this case, I have to conclude that she is a bimbo...
@@Stephanie-kt9vh I am no way defending this classless mode of operating but she seems to go down Stupid St when she doesn't have a lot or not well thought out questions. Some of her recent stories have been no new content just rehash a lot of I don't know stuff to fill the void.
Ashley Banfield ask a lot of stupid questions all the time, sometimes to the point of being rude and insensitive.
She asked if they got a play by play account of the arrest as it was happening. Is she for real.
Banfield has ALWAYS been a low class HACK. Zero journalistic credibility. Don Henley wrote a song called "Dirty Laundry" . Banfield is THE PERSONIFICATION of SELF IMPORTANCE
I know. Does she think this is a movie?
She said a lot of stupid stuff. 🤣
It's a valid question. Videoing the process makes sense
No, it doesn’t and showing the parents of video proves nothing.
The father of Goncalves really owes law enforcement a huge apology
I'm sure he will speak to them in due time, but sadly I believe law enforcement deals with this often. Grief stricken, heartbroken, and feeling as though he was supposed to protect his daughter, but could not. I'd like to believe that law enforcement knows when, and when not to take things personally. They're trained to give grace to those who are suffering, whether publicly, or behind closed doors.
Steve Concalves doesn't owe police an apology. Mr. Concalves said he was calling an attorney a coward, not police.
He is a white privilege guy, he just don't see it.
@@carlydahl6691 He was an ass. An ass beyond a griving father. All he ever did was second quess and insult the police
@@Emy53 well he was on tape definitely calling LE cowards lol. He backtracked or lied about that. But even without that statement he's been obnoxious. I understand he's hurting but so far we haven't heard anything like much in the way of appreciation from SG.
Hi Ashleigh, I was a big fan. Watched your show every night religiously. I am very disappointed you didn’t apologize for constantly undermining the investigation going as far as asking whether the investigators were competent enough. I would have expected even just a tiny reference about how great and quick this investigation was at the end of the day. Too proud to admit you were wrong all along? Sad and disappointed to say the least.
Well said
These were four accomplished college students with careers in mind. Kaylee had a job lined up. They came from very loving homes. Kids go to college and who for God's sake would think anything like this tragedy would happen. I didn't when I went to college. They were all truly happy in their pictures. This will always be remembered by most people who send their prayers🙏
@@bambooprincess3495 I hope that the state doesn't have to take care of his raggedy azzz. Put him on death row/death penalty, if GUILTY. Get this rubbish off the earth.
Most people will forget, and I don't think anyone involved were kids
They seemed like a bunch of snobby, self absorbed Gen-z brats. What fucking loss to the world is their passing?
@@bambooprincess3495 don’t celebrate too early, he gets a good defense team and if prosecutors don’t have solid evidence he can walk free
He matched with one of the girls on hinge
Kaylee's dad is saying he knows the connection but will not be discussing it right now..I read that on ABC News interview
I heard his sister lived in that neighborhood
Her dad talks a lot
Hmmm…remember when her family said Kaylee was a websleuth? Do you think Kaylee met him online in some criminal investigation chat?
@@G274Me I heard on another site that they proved that to be false. His sister does not live near the crime scene.
@@SidneySmith678
That would make sense otherwise we’d be hearing about a search warrant at that address too. The guy definitely looks like an incel. Perhaps there was some online connection. Maybe a tik tok follower of kaylee. The mean girls video triggered him or something? I’m sure we’ll find out.
This was a very Colombo approach that LE had, pretending they had nothing or very little. Good job MPD
"Ehhh, just one more thing..."
Your profile name, Lol!
Ashleigh, that was an extremely long pause on your part when your guest stated the victim's families knew this was happening several hours before the arrest. This guest was perfect to keep you from being your usual crabby, mean, disrespectful towards police everywhere.
👏👏👏👏👏
. I agree totally and have been so disappointed with her coverage
She's proven herself to be an idiot
Play by play??????? This wasn’t a ball game!! C’mon
I have been so proud of this man's love for his daughter and his resolve and perseverance as he sought for truth and justice--in the ways that he could--for all of the victimized loved ones (and for all of us concerned, universal citizens around the world who cared about these loved ones, as well).
We thank you for finding the strength to do what needed to be done during what we assume is the most challenging time of your life.
Ms. M. Moore
🇺🇲
SG is a mensch.
I agree. I have so much respect for these families for their dignity. Grace and love for 5heir children
You should check out Alex Erickson channel regarding SG and his daughters
The Chaplins love their son and the other families as well but respect LE enough to stay off the news. This family has done nothing but complain when they’ve had more help in this case than most murder cases.
@@KS-hi8vi 100% correct. Not only that, but every word SG spoke to the world gave more info to suspect and gave more for future defense attorney to work with.
This suspect may well have been on route to become a serial killer. Well done. You guys may have saved many lives in the future.
Yes, this idiot would not have stopped, gret job of the police and FBI!!👍👍💕
You dont know that he may have already been
@@kultofbunny indeed. The positive is. I doubt there will be anymore.
Ikr? His profile suggests to me that he would have killed more people ...
They got the jerk. Hooray for DNA and cameras!
I love this family! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 for them!
Quite fitting the time Bryon was arrested ...between 3-4 am🎯💥
Yap, I guess they showed him......
This person was arrested here in Albrightsville here at his parents house. Prayers to the families who lost their children..
I am sending all the love and comfort to those families. They have the right perpetrator.
Sending love and light to the preparator that he tells all. Why! Why! 💫
I'd wondered about this. Glad they at least told the families before the barrage of questions from the media. ..
Very true! I hate when the media finds out before the families are formally told about the information on their loved ones deaths.
These families have been contacted daily according to the Chief. Goncalves are the only ones complaining. First they weren’t getting enough info then it was too much.
MPD, State Troopers & $1million extra isn’t enough for this family. Other Murder cases get no media and little LE help.
@@KS-hi8vi I hear ya KS... Although, I'd not trade places with them, at all. I can only begin to imagine what hell they've gone through emotionally and otherwise.
This attorney is not supportive of the investigators at all; yet the keep making them wrong with their insights. What gives??
😭🙏🕊
Unbelievably devestating and life changing for the victims' families
LORD have mercy
But also for the INNOCENT family members of the perpetrator, who, as histroy shows us, will forever receive much hatred, hostility, rejection, isolation, avoidance, lack of opportunities etc
😭🙏🕊 LORD have mercy
😭❤🕊🙏 so many innocent lives forever changed
parents create their sociopathic children due to their sociopathic traits. there's no point feeling sorry for the family. maybe his sister, but monster parents condition monster children
No that family of his I believe knew he was the one who did it!! Did you see his parents house in the gated community?? Made his parents throw all pots and pans out of the house because he's a vegan. The parents listened to his request and did as they were told. I believe the parents knew it was him and helped him destroy evidence. Spoiled rich kid that is a complete weirdos. His parents aren't innocent yet by far
I'm curious what finally pointed them in the right direction
Evidence
Pretty sure they knew for weeks.
Probably DNA found at the site of the attack combined with the white Hyundai Elantra
Compass
Evidence = DNA & Hyundai Elantra
“INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY”
I write this thinking of one of my four college age grandchildren. Their ages fluctuate from 19 to 25 years old. One of them is bi-polar, has asperger traits and in just a few short words, the world would look at him and think; “awkward and/or weirdo. He recently graduated from college but has yet to find where he fits in. His mom has given him all the tools mental health can offer, however, once he was 18, by law, it was up to him to take his medications, see his therapist periodically and so on. My daughter had absolutely no legal resource to enforce this took place consistently to maintain his chemical and emotional balance. To this day, we all worry what he may or may not do. So in a way, I have mixed feelings for this person.
On the other hand, I have two beautiful college age grand-daughters, and I fret constantly over their safety. Both go to out-of-state universities. At this age, kids are kind of naive and carry that false sense of security attitude, “oh, that won’t happen to me because…” any parent can fill the blank. Our parents did it, we did it, now they do/say/feel it. It’s common to the age. In my mind, I substituted each of those faces with my grandkids; my knees buckled and my heart literally broke. I thanked God they were all home for the holidays. These parents will forever be changed. It’s horrendous to lose a child under any circumstance, I cannot imagine losing one in such a savage, cruel, and evil manner.
My big preoccupation with this case is as follows: the guy has ALREADY been condemned by the public. We DO NOT YET have all the facts the Police, FBI, Detectives, Forense examiners, etc., must have in order to obtain and execute an arrest. I am fearing prospective jurors may already be biased and the probability of a mistrial. So much speculation is dangerous. We need to wait for the facts to be given publicly. If this man is indeed the perpetrator of such evil, he will pay the price, the truth wills out.
My three takeaways from this all: 1. not all awkward people are criminals in the making. 2. We need to wait for the trial to “prove beyond reasonable doubt,” this man’s culpability. And 3. As parents we all do our best to raise good citizens and people, yet at one point in life, how, what, where and with whom they decide to do or choose is out of our hands.
Thanks for the Sermon and stating the obvious. 🤦♂
Tldr
HPNana thoughtful comment. I feel for you. This world we live in is certainly not for the faint-hearted, and I'm sure it must make parents anxious especially if their children are trying to cope with a mental disorder as well. I'm not American, and youtube comments seem to reflect 99% an American pov with regards to any subject on here. It's refreshing to see someone also waiting for the evidence before labelling him the murderer.
It seems they did get a genealogy match, which takes them to a third cousin of this person, then they work up from there to the closest relative.
Then there's the car. So the dna match and the car are pretty damning, but, like you, I want to see them debate the facts, and especially genealogy, in court.
I belive they did geofencing as well, which is incredibly complex and expensive, but it puts the murderer's phone in or near the house for months before the murder - if he was in the vicinity and when. If that puts him there as well as everything else, then I don't see how it can be anyone else.
Sorry, I'm rambling on a bit. I'm just thinking of the case as I speak. I guess I wouldn't like to be a parent in this day and age. One can't wrap one's kids in cottonwool but kids can be particularly cruel to others who are perceived as "different" especially in this age of social media.
Sending you positivity and hugs. May all your grandchildren be safe out there🤗
I feel you and agree with you plus *wishing Laws to change pertaining to the age restiction for following up the medications of special needs people
@@tradeladder146lol agreed
It could've been as random as looking on social media for people in the area as potential victims. They maybe didn't know eachother outside of him creeping their pages & stalking in the shadows. So glad for the family, they'll hopefully get some of their questions answered as well as justice for their loved ones.
@Tara Mcgavan here you go! People can not shut their mouths… they just gotta be seen, heard and tell all!!! 🙄
@Tara Mcgavan
His sisters live in New Jersey and Pennsylvania 🙄 there is no credible source that he has a sister living across the street from 1122 King in Moscow
@@whatabouttheearth he has 2 sisters
FBI PA field team was following him for four days prior to arrest.
Trying to get a DNA match is my amateur guess.
@@jackiep5009 also they make sure he’s not flying out of the country. Under that white Elantra probably has GPS unit in there.
Why can’t we see or reply to Emille53 comment? It’s true! Ashley bashed the police badly and knew damn well nobody was going to answer any of her questions! All the retired specialists brought on for her to grill yet never letting them talk was a total shit show! I can’t believe the circus she turned this into! SMH
I disagree. THIS next part isn’t the most painful for these families. The forever loss of their bright, amazing children being killed IS THE most painful part. Poor choice of words.
Agree, and she also said today was an incredibly painful day (I may be paraphrasing?)... No, actually, it was the best day they've had since the murders, to be sure. To know that the almost certain killer has been apprehended at least may provide them some comfort - vs. going on day after day, week after week, etc. not knowing whether justice will ever be served for their loved ones...
Another terry part of this process is going to be the families having to relive horror as the case progresses in the court system..
Thank You ❤️🙏
The alleged killer
was highly qualified with a knife,
yet refuses to eat food
from a pot that previously contained meat?
That makes no sense!
.
Lol its normal for psychopaths
It's normal for people who eat kosher.
This dude no doubt kept a journal of some sort.
Why would the parents of the victims need a lawyer?
Because of all of the internet investigators blaming and attacking the parents
To have someone qualified to speak for them. I'm sure they don't want to talk to the media right now. Put yourself in their shoes.
Because one of the Dads is a jerk
Because the greedy long-nosed lawyers need to get their cut of the action.
Because they were dealing with a lot, due to their daughter's name horrible death, they didn't want to deal directly with the media and everybody else, so they use a lawyer as a buffer. It's very common.
Of course they knew soon into this who did it. The last thing they would do is talk about it, which would allow the media to alert the suspect. Great job all officers involved.
The online crime junkies would have had all kinds of wild theories like they do now lol
@@tonysplace9255 That's a fact
“We knew before everyone else did”. Lawyer could have left it as, we were told last night.
My daughter was killed in 2014 and Jesus help me and his word and promise that I will see her again get your mind off this murderer he will stand before God for taking there life let’s here more about the ones he took we will to keep the Memories of them alive alive and stop focusing on this murderer and for focus on the ones and the love ones that are left behind he will have his day
Let's be careful and not call him a kid, at 28 I was married had a child and a mortgage. He's a grown adult. An evil one.
I saw on both Kaylee and Maddies Instagram, that Bryan followed both of them. I couldn't see that he followed Xana though.
I think a lot of those IG accounts are fake and were made today, sadly.
Seriously ⁉️ Wow do you have any more information ❓🙏
Maybe Ethan walked out.
I seen that to. I wonder if he knew or was friends with Inan HARSH?
He followed Xana too in IG
All in good time the details will be revealed just be patient. We were for 7 weeks.
During the trial…
everyone owes LE apologies for making their job even more difficult by criticizing and causing leaked info/chaos
Terrible question by reporter, it’s not a TV show, not entertainment , no “play by play” comments during arrest! … it’s policemen WORKING who’ve done a professional job including contacting family, NOT PUBLIC fodder by media!, before arrest.
POLICEMEN, THANK YOU‼️‼️
Arrested him at 3am....hmmm.they did it to prove a point.
any apologies coming to the Police from all of YOU experts?
I wonder if he might have been the "creepy stalker" that was mentioned in passing?
Why does everybody keep acting like Kaylee is the only victim here. Even the news caster on this station said give our condolences to Kaylee family and then she adds and oh yeah to the other families. Remember there were 4 victims there and there families not just ONE.
Your client owes the Moscow PD an apology for the slander he delivered against the officers of Moscow PD.
Kaylee’s father said he hopes he’s wrong about LE and he will man up and apologize. I’m sure he has privately and will publicly eventually.
@@Liz_H9319 he hasn’t apologized
Ohhh...im surprised dad didn't run to the media.
The Goncalves family owe law enforcement an apology... :O
Great work from all agencies involved! They have his DNA at the crime scene.
Is anyone else wondering if he just found them on TikTok?
Chief said at press conference today that more information about the suspect will be revealed when trial starts.
2 of the victims worked at the most popular vegan restaurant in town. I bet that was first contact and then stalking digitally and physically
It's targeted, but random.. They seem to of been part of a sick test. This guy wanted to fulfill a sick sick need! That's what I think..
Some Reddit posts say this guy was part of a cycling group in Pullman that bike around both Washington and Idaho sides, including night rides. It's possible that he passed through the streets near the victims' house and even tried to get into a party. Another possibility is that he tried to crash a party but got turned away and that pissed him off.
more speculation
@@eriegirl9007 It has been since November 13. We never had any information this whole time
Reddit? I’d listen to the National enquirer before I’d listen to Reddit. Jesus, research your sources.
Continued prayers for the Goncalves, Mogen, Kernodle and Chapin families 🙏 🤍🤍🤍🤍
If he had a accomplice, they must be nervous as hell
Well done to the Police. Keeping the family updated like that is amazing.
LE had to already make some kind of connection in order to obtain a warrant to make an arrest and charge the guy. You have to connect a person to make them a suspect. LE has been trying to be very careful not to mess up. They want a conviction. I doubt they're gonna screw up by arresting someone they couldn't connect to at least one of the victims.
Banfield owes law enforcement an apology . This is true law enforcement they were doing there jobs keeping it close to he chest to not compromise the investigation. Good work Moscow PD shame on you banfield
The killer could have attended parties at any time.
I agree. I think he had been there and was 'familiar' with the house, those who lived there. He didn't randomly walk into a place known to be full of people almost 24/7 even when the tenants weren't home and not know some details. Their open all the time for parties may have been part of why he chose them, I think In MY Opinion he was having fantasies about doing this, that house was full of kids all the time, usually quite impaired, he thought this was a perfect scenario, constant moving parts, constant people in and out, always loud, impaired, and unprepared.. and they became his prey for opportunity and to control the environment. To be the 'one in charge'
I fully expect they will use his background and his reddit 'research' and they will say he was insane.. couldn't tell truth from fantasy anymore and that will be their defense.
I'm hoping and praying he just tells the truth. All of it.. what, why, how, and take his punishment and give this family at least a crumb of a future. Can I ask, the older pics, he had more 'weight' the mug shot, he looks like he's lost weight and his nose appears to have a RECENT (and older) break. I think when they say there was a hell of a fight on the second floor, Ethan broke this dude's nose and we all know broken noses are like water ways flowing fast and furious. Do you think it looks like a fresh break or maybe just more pronounced bc of weight loss and a different hair style?
Happy New Year my friend. Be safe and healthy and blessed.
I doubt that dude was invited to any parties.
@@Stephanie-kt9vh See, I would think he would NOT chose that house because of all the parties and the in and out traffic, not knowing who would-be coming and going at any given time. How many people was he prepared to run into? How many people was he prepared to have been sleeping over there? How did he know more where not coming to crash there?
For a full confession and the location of the knife, they might take the death penalty off the table.
If he's willing to pled guilty for life in prison without parole to avoid the death penalty, then I guarantee you that the Prosecution would take that deal. As he'd have to tell them everything that he did to include where the murder weapon is and WHY and HOW he carried out the Murders. It would answer a lot of questions for the families and Law enforcement and avoid a long drawn-out painful trial.
I think he left Dna during the altercation with Ethan. He must've been bleeding already, just because the knife got slippery. Either that or under the fingernails of the victims. I think the only way to get such a deal is if provides information on other crimes he might have comitted before.
@@joeybrazil2024 ya he prob didn't anticipate a male being inside the house and I bet Ethan broke his nose cuz it looks broke and that's how his own blood was left at the scene;that's crazy from a bloody broken nose!
the father should send a huge apology for bashing everyone involved for building a strong case against that monster.
I think he gets a pass since his daughter was brutally murdered
The father lost a kid. He doesn’t owe any of you anything.
Totally!!! Saying they weren’t @alpha” enough and needed to step up. Smh.
Agreed
Hope you're never in his shoes! Ovilously you have no children... I have three grown daughter's.... The pain they are going through I can't imagine so shut up!
The way the criminal Justice system works in the USA is that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty, and you can’t just arrest someone without building a case. The fact is LE and the FBI were tracking the “suspect” across country and had his parent’s home in a gated community under surveillance 24/7 while waiting to have the proper warrants to arrest him means they were doing their job. I worked extensively with a Prosecutor’s Office and Sheriff’s Department and I am amazed at how many different States were involved!! The suspect may have only lived 7 miles from the house where the murders were committed, but it was a different State! And he lived in housing owned by the University he was enrolled in the PhD program at and had an office on campus. They would have had to get search warrants, requiring probable cause, in each of those places requiring the cooperation and assistance of each of those LE departments and Judges/Magistrates. I don’t watch “NewsNation”, this clip just popped up on my RUclips feed. This lawyer, and the victim’s family he represents, with the help of the media have done nothing but trash LE and seek to be on the news! They have also shared information with the public, like their daughter and another victim were sleeping in the same bed instead of their separate bedrooms! That kind of info is something that LE often wants to keep out of the public domain so that there are details ONLY the killer would know!! This family acts like they want their daughter to be the center of everything - like she is more important than the other victims. Why do they even need a lawyer?!?
Proud of the police work that was done. My heart is broken for all the families and friends of the victims...💔 May they all rest peacefully in heaven while the killer is brought to justice...
I know that many former law enforcement professionals have stated previously that it takes weeks, months, years to solve cases. They had a lot of information to break down and for the police to have a suspect in custody this fast is incredible. I'm very impressed that they kept so many things out of the public's knowledge. I'm very very impressed and I hope justice is served for the victims, their families, and the community. This is an absolute tragedy and I hope that a few good things (Familial DNA testing, cooperation between police forces, and maybe some prevention if motivation is investigated) can come from it.
Couldn't tell the one Dad much, he'd spill to the media.
Mr. Gray when can we expect your clients apology to Moscow Police, especially the "young Detectives" he said were to young? He said if they solve it he will be the 1st to come out and say he was wrong!! I mean he was quick to put them down and say bad stuff about the way it all got handled! Dont get me wrong I understand to an extent that he was grieving and wanted answers but he was on every news he could bad mouthing! Well now hes on silent mode. Its time to show the man and leader he says he is right now!!
Moscow Police solved this? I thought it had been the FBI
I'm still angry at the inferences he made toward Jack S. the "hoodie guy", wanting to know his alibi, when after all is said and done, Jack S. was simply walking them safely to the Grub Truck.
@@existenz001 The Moscow Police and the FBI worked together. Duh. But there was a lot more talk about the supposed incompetence of the Moscow Police.
What a shock! Never thought they'd find the killer. Thank God they did
If you study many cases over many years you begin to understand all the nuances and strategy involved with building a case (and, no, LE can't share these). In this day and age, there are so many resources available to LE that the public is not even aware of. It's often not about lack of evidence or leads - it's about coordination and prioritization of these elements so that the suspect can't leave country while probable cause is being established. Everything that's done is to pass muster with the court at every juncture. The Golden State Killer case is proof not to give up on LE - because no case is unsolvable.
Suspect* you stated he's the killer just like you thanked god? Well similarly to god, him being the killer hasn't actually been proven
Thank you Jesus for bringing this monster to light
Great Channel, good reporting, Thank you, and God Speed
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IM SO GLAD THAT THIS IS GOING SOME WHERE MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN THE AREA AND IM SO GLAD THAT ME AND ALL OTHER PARENTS CAN STOP WORYING ABOUT THIER CHILDREN AND OTHERS, STILL STAY VIGILANT, NEVER LET GUARD DOWN, GOD BLESS
Yes. Hopefully this will make the college kids much more careful and vigilant as there is so much evil in the world now.
Why did he do it
I still Wonder about the dog.did he knew him.
A bitter sweet moment indeed.
I don't think this guy was partying or going out and contacting people in Moscow.
He just targeted a close by town and maybe studied the house and escape routes.
It's very possible he just wanted to kill. I'm not sure what's worse honestly
Yep, he scouted a dark house/poorly lit with no cameras. Didn't really care who it was. We all keep assuming he must've had some deep interaction with the victims like rejection or whatever because we can't fathom a psycho mindset.
Prayers to the families.
It's difficult enough to catch a suspect for one murder.. and to attach the all the pieces together that ties into the 1 victim.. can't imagine having to do that for all 4 victim's. I hope this guy just says what happened so the families can properly grieve. 💔🙏
I have a feeling based on what the police have reported that this guy is going to be a game player with the police/media
He must of not known about global cameras on highways and interstates. I use to install them 7 days a week. Cops tracked him all the way to his doorstep. May he rot in hell.
Thank God for this arrest. This wasn't a random attack. He somehow felt like he had been wronged and was serving justice. He has an intrigue with this type of crime, he didn't 'fit in' and he was angry. He didn't randomly decide to go into a house he had never been in and attack 4 people ... There is something. I pray he has a spread of humanity somewhere deep inside and will just tell what and why. He has taken enough from these families. To the precious families, We are SO sorry. We can't fix this but we are with you, all over the world. You aren't walking this journey alone.He now knows he did NOT beat them or the system, he IS NOT untouchable.
Prayers for all, I'm just so sorry.
So you know he is guilty? You still going to call him a killer after his acquittal?
@@bahlol8372 you know he’s not? Seems strange you’re thinking he would be acquitted.
Very well stated Stephanie.
There is something fishy about the sitch. Not saying he isn't guilty as hell, allegedly, but I can't help thinking there is more to this story. When it's all said and done, and he is just a lone wolf, cool, but there has been a lot going down in Moscow, ID in the last year.
@Sunflower Madison Cops under extreme pressure to arrest anyone of the hundreds of DNA in the house, cops needed mental help provided due to stress, any person can have 2-5 ppls DNA under their fingernails at any given time, cops have made countless mistakes, a case can be made for 6-10 people easily, dude lived a privileged life in a gated community. His high profile attorneys are going to shred this case to pieces. Get ready for an acquittal coming to a jury near you!!!!
The supposed jail pictures of this man are out of character and protocol. Why is he standing in front or right next to a door with a brick wall? It looks like an edited picture.
Someone out there going to college for years, getting his masters, working on his PhD is the most dangerous because he wouldn't be on anyone's radar to fear. Seems like this guy had it completely together and then something like this happens... terrifying!!
More like he has been working towards it for years.
Evan serial killers have a beginning. I believe these murders were his begining .I pray that the police have stoped him from doing any more damage to other family's. That's if he did this crime. 🙏🙏🙏🙏to all the families
GREAT 👌 Job LE!
Moving violation in town back in August. He knew area.
Bottom line, don’t get Drunk. You can’t defend yourself.
You mean don't get sleep... I can easily defend myself drunk, don't know who can while they asleep.
Or learn how to fight when drunk
Or maybe just lock your damn doors
@@ajayyyy if you’re drunk. You can’t feel pain when you get smacked. You’ll get your ass beat.
I honestly don’t think they were even asleep. They were texting Jack as late as 2:52 am. The Elantra was speeding past a Gas station at 3.45 am. He must’ve left the house at least by 3:30ish. Most people don’t fall asleep thag quickly and especially when your friend is sleeping over. Hard to believe he broke in and committed four murders in 30 minutes and sped off.
Many, many online commenters have been critical of the Moscow Police for (among other things) supposedly not seeking help from the FBI or for not turning the entire case over to the FBI. (Because the commenters are experts, don't you know?)
From a Nov.18, 2022 press release:
The Moscow Police Department is utilizing assistance from the Idaho State Police, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Latah County Sheriff’s Office.
Moscow Police Department:
• 4 Detectives
• 24 Patrol Officers
• 5 Support Staff
Federal Bureau of Investigation:
• 22 investigators in Moscow
• 20 assigned agents located out of Treasure Valley, ID, Salt Lake City, Utah, and West Virginia
• 2 Behavior Analysis Units
Idaho State Police:
• 20 investigators
• 15 troopers
• Public Information Officer
• ISP Forensics Services and mobile crime scene team
• 15 uniformed troopers to assist with community patrols
The family knew last night.
Duh!!
@@SteveV2023 I was correcting the news report.
I slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night!
Please address why he would think others would have been arrested.
Hopefully some light will be shed on that at some point! But for all we know, he said it to mess with them. Could be a whole lot of nothing because he thought it would be a good way to create extra work for the police.
Could be diversion. He's clearly studied a lot of criminal cases.