Chicago Housing Projects
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- This was a white suburban high schooler's take on Chicago's housing projects, so bear that in mind before commenting. It was not thoroughly researched, although Kevin completed it for his Chicago Literature class.
Once they torned down the projects, they made the gang problem worst than it was back in the 70's-80's.
Really? Can you tell me how?
They "relocated" the project by putting ONLY those who qualified around different parts of Chi. Now you have a bunch of people poor, drug addicted, felons, etc homeless... survival sets in! Wtf did Chicago think was going to happen? Those in CPH that were interviewed may have acknowledged that yes their living conditions sucked but they didnt want to move. It was familiar and they ran the shit in their own type of way with their own rules.
The 70s-90s still had overall higher violent crime numbers. Still tearing down the projects just spread out the problems it didn't fix anything. Kind of like the projects they were poorly maintained.
Its not worst its more spread out to neighborhoods that wasnt so violent like east chatham and southshore, the suburbs of riverdale and park forest also out of state cities like Cedar Rapids Iowa and Indianapolis and Rockford, Il. Chicago had 900 murders a year then now its averaging 450 to 600 with 2016 and 17 getting close to 800 again. The violence has been exported
@@jaythomas3224 not only did it just export the violence it destroyed whatever communities it had built up. Thanks Daly Rahm and the goverment in general.
Makes me so sad I was born and raised in Chicago I hate to see what has happened I will always love Chicago no matter what very proud being from Chicago
Just came across this site. I grew up in the Harold Ickes during the 50s and 60s. What is being displayed here is far from what I experienced as a child. Yes, were poor but both parents were present and taught me, an only child, that education was important. We had curfews and if they were violated there was a fine of at least $25. Parents made sure that we abided by the curfew. The grounds were well kept with flowers and green grass. We respected the buildings. They were not gang infested during the early days. These pictures depict the projects as some awful breeding ground for Black folks to do drugs, not go to school or do anything positive. This person should interview people who are at least 65 and older to get a real view of what the projects provided for us as we transitioned into a better life.
Agreed Maxi Max. It seems that this uneducated person comes with his own level of bias without ever attempting to understand the full history or highlight the positives that were also present. I remember the meals that were served daily in the Robert Taylor homes for families that were not able to afford meals among other programs in place.
@@baliyah7937 he is white bro, what do you expect?
The Housing Act of 1949 gave funding to build these super blocks, but the Act didn't fund the maintenance. With out funding for maintenance, it turned into these crime ridden hell holes. Also the funding did not allow for mix use. Ground floor retail as barbershops, Trader Joes, etc would have given the sense of community. The housing complexes were an employment and grocery desert.
Yeah, I imagine those drug dealers and rapists and murderers enjoying Trader Joe’s..
I am proud to be from Chicago, and it is one of the greatest
cities in the USA. However people quick to show you the project s but they not
telling how State Senator was missing using funds that should have went back into
the south side communities. So where the
people who were are miss using funds. The blood and tear on young black boys
and girls back, and they will never be healed from such a harsh well of growing
up. I believe the people who didn’t do right with spending the funds the right way should be placed in
jail.
Why do Black people blindly vote for the Democrat party? Democrats have destroyed every big city in America.
The complexes looks like Le Corbusier's nightmare. Le Corbusier was high on something to come with the the City in the Park concept.
Ernt. Wrong.
What happened at Cabrini Green was a perfect storm of hamstrung policy (tenants were not allowed to own their places, if you went up in income you were forced out resulting in no mix of income, this became a deathnote once the nearby factories moved south to Mexico. The lack of income from both shuttering of factories and explicit policies meant to protect private real estate interests doomed the occupant make up to single mothers only (The drug war removed the males.)
Everytime I see these ole flicks..I wanna cry..nuthin but str8 memories...I was born n raised in tha Gardens on tha low-end and now u don't even see tha bricks no more is craaaazy...our bldg was right in front White Sox Park...so when 4th of July came around we got tha best seats...lookin off our porches😂🤣🤣😅😂🤣 those were tha days☝️
But Lathrop was different!!! Our buildings were designed to be homes with beautiful trees, nice little gardens, open air spaces where kids could run free... and that's why LATHROP "STILL" LIVES!!! We can't let them destroy these wonderful homes!
looks very similar to parts of london - mostly east london - in fact if you told me some of these photos were taken in hackney (east londons most dangerous borough) i wouldn't even question it. Still these projects are / were massively deprived areas - cabrini greens were absolutely infamous when they were still there that is - i think all the old high rise blocks have been demolished now , there may be but 1 block left im not sure dnt think so tho - btw perfect song choice very fitting
The Crabrini-Green projects was filmed on the opening and closing credits on the "GoodTimes" show. If these projects was free housing, why did the "Evan Family struggle to pay rent?
Because it wasn't free
I thought it was excellent. I'ts great to see a creative young mind at work. Well done.
2:06 looks kinda like queensbridge
Very true, projects was once was great and nice place to live. But once the government stop sending money to a area it will fall apart.
Every day I thank the world that I am in the rural south. Because the only thing I can think of that's worse than being poor (which I am), is being poor and in the city. At least I can find a brief escape from the grind of poverty when nestled in nature's green boughs.
projects in chicago seem far worse than in new york
many ppl r born into this life i had many freinds that grew up in the greens
Great Video! I remember some of these places all too well as a child/pre-teen (especially Robert Taylor) because some of my family members lived there. VERY DANGEROUS EVEN IN THE 70'S/80'S!!! The Chicago Police Department called the projects "Un-Policeable"---They Were Right! The Gangs Held Them Hostage! I'm glad the projects are gone but the bigger issue is...where did all the innocent tenants go? And where did those 'Terrorist-NGAZ' who held it hostage wind up? OH MY GOD...
If you want to see more of Cabrini Green, watch the movie "Candyman" (Scary black guy with a hook for a hand)- most of the film was shot there, and the Univ. of IL Chicago campus.
they shound mabe a moive about the chicago housing projects
Agreed
There are many people that live in those projects that do not take violence, drugs or pimping with them. As for single parent families one could only chose to be a parent and there is no turning back.
This real estate is now worth millions! Thank you Mayor Daley.
Nice drop I grow up in the PJs in Jersey City, NJ and even tho Im in the burbs living right I really miss those buildings When they knocked those buildings down it took something from me
my daddy used to live the Robert Taylor Housing Projects
those were the dearborn projects on state street, they look like the queens bridge projects just smaller.
the problem isnt the tenants, its the people who putem in that position.
I agree with you Imerica1 - my high school(Bishop McNamara) team was in the CFL (Catholic Football League) we were playin' De La Salle H.S. on Sat. morn. in my freshman year. I was real nervous- always wacthin' behind me. We walked to McDonald's in the neighborhood. Shit is real scary
Take a look at the story of Christina Eilman. She was raped, thrown out of a window, and left for dead by these "caring" residents. Now a poor girl and her family have to endure a life completely changed by an area which should have been burned down then knocked down.
Uh, yeah I have. Take a look at the area around the Courthouse in the South Bronx. Hasn't changed much since the 70s, 80s, or 90s. And I grew up in New York in the 90s... when it was actually a scary pleace.
My mom grew up dirt poor, with 6 sisters and 5 brothers they all lived in a 3 bedroom house now all of them are doing well, my mom has three houses, one here in Michigan, one in TX where they found oil on her land, and a condo in Fl, and me from watching all of this I am not rich, but living nice making decent money at Dow Chemical been here for 6 years and only 28 years old of age with a wife, and four kids, and a bulldog as a pet, thats what counts I could have choose to hang with my fam gangs
In many housing projects they like to take the copper plumbing and electrical with them when they move. They do it to themselves.
If you can't feed a baby, don't have a baby.
Lack of pride and self worth is what led to the demise of projects. Low income does not constitute settling for poor conditons. Nor not taking proud in your living environment. Housing projects started as a means of recovery and restoration. Not life long poverty and lack of ambition.
I agree with you, we don't. Watching these slides of the Chicago projects reminds me of travelling through Poland and Romania towns where middle and even upper class people live. People make places
People stacked up in these horrible buildings must have felt as if they were living in concentration camps for the poor. All that life had to offer was one dreadful day after another. It is just depressing to look at, no wonder life in these projects was sooo hard.
Historical perspective needed here. There was a massive migration from the south to jobs in the north after WW2. The tenements that existed were demolished to make way for these "modern" buildings.
Because the residents did not have "ownership" of these and was given to them, there was no respect for them. They quicker turned into hell holes when globalization took over and the jobs went oversees.
You know, you all are given everything for free yet it's everyone else's fault. The surroundings,the poverty, the gangs, the uneducated. When will you stop blaming everyone else for your problems and learn your biggest problems are yourselves. Life is not a free ride. You take and you take and what do you give back...Dangerous crimes
Thanks alot people
wow i feel bad for buying a condo where they used to be...i just moved to chicago and iv heard of these projects but i didnt kno where they were till a friend told me about them..
@goldensassenach if it was that straight forward, why havent they all done this already? please do not patronise this hideous problem by oversimplying causes and solutions. As someone who grew up in similar surroundings, who did a lot of these things to ensure I could find a way out, it was HARD! Its almost impossible to fully articulate how many obstacles and unforeseen circumstances that constantly knock you down and pull you back. In a way, those on drugs/alcohol are somehow more free.
Im from Chicago, Half Black,Half Latino and my dad grew up in the projects at 1:00
He said it was hell,shooting everyday, water not running,cramped living spaces
I wonder why they were demolished i understand that they were very degraded but it was enough to renovate them and i was sorry not to see them again because then these structures also had a certain charm
Hundreds of these buildings have been demolished on the East Coast in Philly, Newark, and Baltimore too
I've lived in government housing that was filled with ethnic minorities, plenty of single mothers and absent fathers - and no crime. Maybe the fact that the housing was on a military base, and we were individually held accountable for the conditions of our living quarters, had something to do with it. The ironic part of it was the slums of northeast DC were no more than a few miles away, with lots more policing, and with rampant crime.
If the will was there, the violence would stop tomorrow.
I have been looking through all these videos on the projects. Very mixed feelings. I feel for those who are born into slums like this. I know it takes a lot to go from nothing to something. But, I also know that as someone else pointed out, this is what government run-anything turns into. This should be "exhibit A" for socialized medicine. Politicians all talk big and deliver nothing but tax hikes.
the Robert Taylor Homes had more gangs and crime then Rockkwell Gardens Robert Taylor Homes was the largest public housing unit in the world at one time youd hear a grenade go off or gunfire likke nobodys business 49th and State "The Vulture"
where da met building at
the city didnt give a fuck how we lived we was packed literally on top of each other
Damn this video is sad. I grew up in the robert taylor homes, on state and federal street. While living there I was forced to grew up fast, really didnt have much of a childhood. seeing so of the things I did.gang fights,gangbanging, kids joining gangs, shootings and crack being used.
Actually it wasnt the people living heres fault for it becoming old & cramped. It was the governments they stopped caring about the projects and it turned into that.
At the start, after the depression, building public housing developments afforded people a decent place to live, especially the poor and working poor. However, isolating people on the fringes of cities, then not maintaining the buildings, or having any real employment opportunities caused the decline and failure of public housing. To come in and tear down these developments without considering the PEOPLE who live there is not a solution. Does America still need public housing? Definitely! Especially after the recession, when affordable housing is scarce, and more people are either living in poverty, or knocking on poverty's door. I find it terribly wrong to blame poor people for their poverty, especially today, when the economic divide is wider than ever. It angers me greatly that the richest nation in the world treats it's poor so shamefully. If private landlords maintained/managed their properties the way the government has done with public housing, they would be labelled "slumlords" and their faces would be plastered everywhere. What does that say for our government? Why do only people with money have power? Are poor people any "less than"? I don't believe so. There are more types of poverty than just financial, the worst be poverty of the mind (hopelessness). America has lost generations of people to poverty. What is ahead for the country, if we privatize everything for profits and disregarding/marginalizing everyone who doesn't have money?
I hope it's ok a UK person adding something. I live in a pretty rural area (in Wales). The "estates" are much smaller here, but they stand out in the same way. Ugly, with occupants mainly the discarded:- mentally ill, vulnerable, single parents, chucked out youngsters. And those who exploit. I'm not comparing the situations where you are and where I am - I don't know enough, and I really don't want to patronise. I just wanted to say that I empathise with the shittiness of it all. x
how comes they've torn all these down and south side has a worse homicide rate than ever? Chiraq still exists without the blocks...
Yo! for the record: this video was done by Kevin McD, who did it as a school project in a Chicago Literature class at YCHS, Elmhurst, Illinois USA.
It is NOT the work of baudelaire1. Baudelaire1 be hosting it on his site, and would appreciate all of your energy for commentary if it went a bit toward his videos.
2:25 my old project building on the right
yeah i feel ya bruh. but never fear for the people cuz they all will make their ways up here to my beautiful state of minnesota. anywhere from minneapolis,st.paul to duluth which is way up north by lake superior. chi people have been moving up here since the late 70's/ my father is from chi but has sinced moved back down there by pulaski out west. we always have welcomed chicago up here, now in the 2000's seems like we all family, shit we even have gary people up here.
@DrCruel golden comment! i hope alot of people read your words. i wish my mind were a little more sharp right now but i've been doing my job "serving the people" for 3 days straight it seems. what a bunch of animals sometimes. the violence needs to stop!
Wow. Wake up call to the hell so many poor African Americans deal with on so many levels. I hope this failure in housing projects is a wake up call for large cities to do more instead of less for it's citizens who deserve decent housing, education, employment and opportunity.
makes me sad that they tore down the projects. I feel sorry for the people how lived there, that they had to go from there homes where they had been living for a long time and raised there families.
My father grew up in that building at 1:01, the church you see is Holy Family
He was Puerto Rican
R.I.P Cabrini Green...damn diz video bring bak memories yet da person who made diz vid had sum fucked up comments 4real..
I totally agree with you but when it comes to children they learn based on what they see.
it just looks like old abandoned buildings
What happened to Altgeld Gardens?
I appreciate what you did with showing the various housing projects in the Chi. It would go over better if your spelling were corrected and your statements actually facts. Not all people in the projects are criminals, pimps, drug dealers and losers. CHA (Chicago Housing Authority) was established to help combat proverty the idea was great the intent wonderful, the work and efforts failed. Please know this! The displaced are being relocated to the surrounding areas (i.e. Bellwood Oak Park).
i was on a waiting list for a housing project here for several years theyd rather keep undercover cops in there and lazy people than a then able bodied person who would have worked if it werent for undo distractions "on the clock" facilitated by the state of tennessee.
The projects failed in most major cities because of racist administrators. Those people didn't care about the poor blacks. The poor blacks didn't have any opportunities. So they do what's best to make money and survive. Sell drugs. I lived in the the projects most of my life in LES of NYC, NY. Only reason the projects didn't fail here is because you have a lot of laws that protect the poor.
Once upon a time in the projects yo...
@TheMaterial 44th in state b .. .. .. .. cross the street from mc corcle school
I used to go to mccorkle I lived in 4331 I miss it so much I can't lie
Much repect to you Mike on gettin' out - no disrespect to those in the greens, I'm just sayin' people have to apply themselves and be relentless If they're tryin' to get out. Peace
@tekno815 the problem is...they are dependant on the government. this government never promised anything to the blacks. only the right to be a free citizen of this country. there are plenty of black people who live in much worse conditions in rural areas who tough it out every day.
Search up Lagos
thats if you want to see some bad conditions
you dont know what all of the peeps on the projects have
or search up Slums or flavelas of Rio
so many people in europe and USA dont understand what they got.
bowen homes thomasville heights bankhead courts
i live n da a now
originally from chicago
how are buildings designed in englewood? are they also high rise? or are they low?
n btw... arson in appartment=murder took place (burning fingerprints and evidence.)
i think projects went wrong by concentrating lots of poor people all in the same area. if projects were smaller and spead far apart they would generate much better results
Tear down ALL the Projects
YES THEY SURE DO SO IT IS EVERYWHERE .
dis bring up memories....
i came from those projects as well i didn't turn out bad or ignorant i' m 21 i have a car im a surgeon technician wit no kids and im not on welfare and graduated from high school so these comments are wrong and u guys are stereotyping
What projects did you live in?
reminds me of Pripyat...But Pripyat is a tragedy...
I'm originally from Kankakee (50 mi. south of Chicago)- Iv'e been down Division St. many times just out of curiosity. It's a terrible sight - I don't care who you are, or where you came from, no one is forced to live like this- this is AMERICA (land of opportunity) get off your tired asses and get out the situation
same problems as any projects in any city. too many poor people concentrated together. Sprinkle the poor around to other areas, the areas can absorb them, and the poor will have to acclimate to their surroundings. but if you keep them all together, the "project mentality" becomes the norm, the accepted mindset, and the pathology continues for generations.
The high-rise projects were synonymous with crime in East Coast cities in the 80's and 90's. Philly, Newark, and Baltimore have since demolished hundreds of these towers not even including all the ones in NYC.
@moneyman237952 that's true but I am a NYC resident.. who grew up in the inner city so I have some ideas... I know that every hood is not as bad but there are many just like that..
Ooh, now I just looked at thestill of the last shot and say what she wrote. 'Because when people are bornito single parent homes, violence and poverty they perpetuate it' , you know what little12 year old from the suburbs you need to live a litle more and then you will see that those in homes next to you go through the same things folks in the ghettss do. Why are you so intrigued with h taking photos of Cabrini? Maybe because you have come to realize that you are really no different.
send me a link where i can look that up! i had no idea
@tekno815 wow
Nice music
@tonyb5783
GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!! GLAD TO SEE SOMEBODY MAKE AN EFFORT TO BETTER THEMSELVES!!! GOOD LUCK
IN THE FUTURE,HOPE EVERTHING GOES WELL FOR YOU.
I live in these projects and it isnt so bad man we got cabel TV!!!
I've seen much worse in the Bronx and Brooklyn.
@DrCruel eastern europe is in crisis due to socialism and a lack of work ethic.
the problem with black entrpreneurs is that most tend to cater their inventions or services to their own race.
no one puts a ball and chain around anyones leg in this country, especially these days if you are of a minority race. if anything, you are given special priveleges on loan applications (this mean using taxpayers monies) and/or the services of the city you locate to. larger cities tend to do this.
It's obvious that you don't know anyone that does live in conditions like this, or you wouldn't make such an ignorant, narrow-minded statement.
A good deal of people living in these projects were doing the best they could with what little they had. I'd love to see some of the people making these comments attempt to do the same - I'm sure none of them would get very far.
it sad these buildings were beatuful when they were built you know it was free and everyone was so excited that poor people had a place to stay and then year after year it got worse and you know who problm it was the tax payers.
I feel so sorry for you that you put something up and you had No Idea what these "project" really meant to the people that lived there and had to leave This was home Family Everyone know you every ones family's know each other and everyone that lived there had to workFor your FYI I grow up in what you call BAD SurroundingsThe family Values and community that you learn as a child is long gone anymore that family environment is gone Now a days People go years before they speak to there Neighbors
@moneyman237952 Can you share some of the stories..?
this is so sad
cabrini greens in chicago is worse we got snipers on the roof just watchin people n 2 much gang bangin goin on here
@goldensassenach Why sew?
pure squalor
BackBlocks09, you are the second person I am speaking 2!! You need to stop being so close minded and realize everyone doesn't have babies because they want too! If they are poor they can't go to their local abortion clinic and just get rid of it!! Everyone doesn't have the same opportunities nowadays!!
You got it right baby
Really nice video, the music compliments those gloomy images of the past, great historical context. Before those projects I believe poor Italian and Irish immigrants settled there as well with the same problems of crime and poverty, only until today has it now become of high real estate value because of its proximity to downtown. I agree with your commentary, it’s unfortunate. This is what happens when the government takes over your livelihood, you take the cheese and then they fail to provide because of misused funds behind the scenes. Both parties to me are two sides of the same coin, but this is why I would never vote Democrat.
rural and small town kids are exposed to the same scenery and lifestyle day after day and year after year. wonder how they cope with it? they may drink and smoke pot, however it seems most of our violent crimes are coming from two particular races in this country. if you disagree then i would ask you to look at the FBI's website and do the math.