I can relate to exactly what Bill is saying at the end. When I was 14, my friends and I would mock Ice Ice Baby. We would constantly point to Vanilla Ice as everything wrong with everything. When Jim Carrey lampooned him on In Living Color, we thought it was the funniest thing ever. Yes, at 14 years old, I considered Vanilla Ice to be a symbol of fake corporate bullshit. At 47 years old, that song just reminds me of being 14. It comes on the radio, and I crank it up, and I smile while I rap along to the 1/3 of the lyrics I know.
Poor Wilmer Valderrama. My wife watches NCIS, the guy plays a tough cop with a tough back story, but I come into the room and all I can think is FEZ!!!
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP & WHEN I WAS PERFORMING IN FOR BANDS IN THE 80S, I WOULD NEVER ADMIT THAT I LIKED DURAN DURAN AND OTHER SONGS QUESTIONABLE TO A METALHEAD. BUT DURAN DURAN ORDINARY LIFE SLAVES ME EVERYTIME I HEAR IT. I LOVE DURAN DURAN
Bill is so right at the end. There are ao many songs i hated hearing 3 dozen times a day between 10-20 years ago and now when i hear them on the radio i not only keep listening but I'll sing along the 1/4 of the lyrics that i still memorized via proxy lol.
Growing up in the 90’s that was always the prevailing attitude, "that song’s gay, it’s only cool if it’s loud, angry, and the bands don’t care about fashion." Realized that kind of music just made me depressed. It was the best decision in my life to stop caring about what other’s thought about the music I listen to. That music can be fun, and even make you want to dance. These days I get down to all of that Soft Rock, Disco, Funk and New Wave. What matters is how the music makes you feel. So much of life is depressing, don’t need that in my music, it can actually help you get through the tough times if you let it.
Steve Perry was a casting call hire. The band's management insisted on a different sound. Journey's founding members were in Santana's band and they were about jamming, and they weren't selling records.They said they were not happy with it until they noticed thousands of people started lighting their Bics during a slow song that was getting heavy radio play. Money kicked in, and they were then fine with their new corporate sound.
I've also had a similar sudden realization like that; one day I was doing dishes and Enjoy the Silence just *clicked*. I'd to dry my hands and search it up on RUclips, knowing that somehow it was now one of my favorite songs.
Tommy Tutone and Greg Kihn along with The Knack and The Romantics , and early Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers and a thousand other guitar driven skinny tie bands would fall together loosely under the category of Power Pop. It was an important part of the post punk / new wave movement in the UK in the late 70s early 80s . Bram Tchaikovsky and early Nick Lowe would be fine examples. Loud , chimey guitars, hooks and memorable , singable choruses. Early Beatles and British invasion influences in the songwriting, along Spector girl group pop affectations in the melodies and vocal harmonies .
Never cared for songs like "(I've had)the time of my life" or "Must have been love" because they were played on radio all the time but now you can listen to them and notice that top talent were obviously in charge of composing and playing them in a studio. Even pop music was sophisticated back then
@stratdx I was never that into Duran Duran then when they reformed years later my sister’s friend bailed on going with her so I had to take her to Manchester arena and they were ANAZING. Superb proper instruments band. Awesome.
1:35 right around here you can hear a perfect example of modern day censorship's effect on comedy. At first he was comfortable saying what he wanted to say, the rocky horror picture show comment, then you can hear him nip it in the bud immediately after realizing he mightve "offended" some people with the comment, you can hear the realization in his voice.
Or maybe Bill realized he'd never seen the movie and didn't want to make a comment that would offend fans of it. This is your brain on The Culture War BS.
Along with Duran Duran! John Taylor was an awesome Bass player! The Power Station record with John, Andy and Robert Palmer showed they could really kickass!
@@bigjohnson7415 John Taylor is literally my favorite bass player. Didn't care for Duran Duran as a young kid in the 80s. But once I started playing, and then paid attention to Rio he was my dude.
I remember one time when I was a dumb 17 or 18 old, making some snide comment deriding my younger brother's taste in music for whatever it was he was listening to. Then, two or three years later, after picking up guitar, learning a bit, and thinking back on that snide comment, I realized I had been wrong, and anyway you're allowed to like what you like, and why the hell am I putting my little brother down over something so dumb in the first place, and what he was listening to actually wasn't bad, it just wasn't to my dumb narrow-minded taste at that time, but musically, it was fine, good even, -- I still think about that, and that was nearly 40 years ago. To sum up: You're allowed to like what you like and don't let anybody tell you different.
This is great to hear this, as I was 20 years old in 1980 and cringed when some of the music videos came out in the mid 80's. Being in the Air Force and trying to avoid the femininity of how bad music videos were getting. Angel CIty's 'Underground' fit well, Ratt's 'Lack of Communication' and Krokus' Stayed Awake All Night' were the cure all.
I recall in 2001 my wife's gay friend was visiting and we were watching TV and one of those terrible marine commercials came on and i commercials omg this commercials are so GAY! I never seen him over again after that.
Even as a kid, I felt the same way about grunge that Randy the Ram does in The Wrestler. I will always love hair metal and butt rock, the dumber the better. I agree with Beavis and Butthead that if a song has a message it sucks.
Bill is one of the few of his generation that has the self awareness to realize that what he listened to was corporate manufactured sissy af glam and hair metal garbage that should not even be considered metal. He has stated several times that he has now started to listen to real metal. He has even gone to Meshugah and Iron Maiden concerts. Its never too late. Bill is the GOAT.
Toto-Africa is song i hate from the first time I herd it and I will continue to do so till the day I die with burning passion, just cant stand anything about that song. Also Prince-Purple Rain I hated when it was new cause he was small feminine guy singing it and now i think is one of the bests songs ever and was and still am a fan of him.
Everything he just said rings true for me. I always liked "Africa" though, Leo Moracchioli does a metal cover of it that is awesome. The guy has got a bunch of videos covering pop and rock songs in a metal style. It's cool if you like that kind of stuff.
africa is a good song. i don’t recognize the genre… definitely not rock&roll, rock, any kind of rock or blues related material, not that there’s anyone wrong with that…
Foreigner was rockin' earlier on in their career, then in the 80s, they became a soft rock band. What the Hell, Foreigner!! Did they think we needed more music like what Air Supply was making? No, no we didn't.
"Still Loving You" by Scorpions should not be on the list. It's never been played out like so many others. "Wind Of Change" deserves to be on the list not SLY
I never understood all the hate towards Michael Bolton. It's like the Bieber Derangement Syndrome that was rampant throughout the '10s: it didn't make any logical sense to hate something that fanatically. If you don't like the music, don't listen to it.
that's why I love the U.S. they let anything let as insane as possible because of freedom and liberty and all that shit and nobody can be like "woah you're going off the deep end" and that's what Art needs and even though I don't really love any of these bands the shit that came after it in late 80's and 90's is what I like which was obviously influenced by all this
Mr Roboto was the beginning of the end of Styx being any kind of serious rock band. The song itself was terrible but the video made me almost die of cringe it was so embarrassing. 🤣
In the 80's I'd listen to Dio, Van Halen, Black Sabbath, Triumph, Cinderella, Ratt, Slayer, Metallica, Accept, Rush, The Cure, OMD, Yaz, Kraftwerk, Joy Division, Depeche Mode, Adam Ant, Ultravox, The Jam, Oingo Boingo, The Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, and others, but Foreigner, Starship, Bruce Springsteen, The Doobie Brothers, Loverboy, and other limp-dick "rock" bands made me want to puke, and I still hate them. One that I used to not even pay attention to, but like now is Steely Dan.
Simply Red was the beginning of the end for good 80's music. It all sucked ass after that. Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, New Kids on The Block all sucked ass and still do.
I can relate to exactly what Bill is saying at the end. When I was 14, my friends and I would mock Ice Ice Baby. We would constantly point to Vanilla Ice as everything wrong with everything. When Jim Carrey lampooned him on In Living Color, we thought it was the funniest thing ever. Yes, at 14 years old, I considered Vanilla Ice to be a symbol of fake corporate bullshit. At 47 years old, that song just reminds me of being 14. It comes on the radio, and I crank it up, and I smile while I rap along to the 1/3 of the lyrics I know.
Gay 😂
Ok but any fuckin "Achey Breaky ❤'"There will b a wobbly.throw .lll.😢😊😂
@@pena.3302 Achey Breaky Heart doesn't remind me of anything, except how shitty Achey Breaky Heart is.
Vanilla ice was fire 🔥, still is
It's a call for World Peace......Stop, collaborate and listen....
The joker with Bill's laughter is perfection
It totally was
"Then all of a sudden he was getting out of a bathtub naked and I was like, eeww... wtf is this?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Poor Wilmer Valderrama. My wife watches NCIS, the guy plays a tough cop with a tough back story, but I come into the room and all I can think is FEZ!!!
Hilarious, didn't know that was the same guy!
I quit watching NCIS when Ziva left. It was never the same.
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP & WHEN I WAS PERFORMING IN FOR BANDS IN THE 80S, I WOULD NEVER ADMIT THAT I LIKED DURAN DURAN AND OTHER SONGS QUESTIONABLE TO A METALHEAD. BUT DURAN DURAN ORDINARY LIFE SLAVES ME EVERYTIME I HEAR IT. I LOVE DURAN DURAN
I agree but STOP SHOUTING!!
Bill is so right at the end. There are ao many songs i hated hearing 3 dozen times a day between 10-20 years ago and now when i hear them on the radio i not only keep listening but I'll sing along the 1/4 of the lyrics that i still memorized via proxy lol.
Growing up in the 90’s that was always the prevailing attitude, "that song’s gay, it’s only cool if it’s loud, angry, and the bands don’t care about fashion." Realized that kind of music just made me depressed. It was the best decision in my life to stop caring about what other’s thought about the music I listen to. That music can be fun, and even make you want to dance. These days I get down to all of that Soft Rock, Disco, Funk and New Wave. What matters is how the music makes you feel. So much of life is depressing, don’t need that in my music, it can actually help you get through the tough times if you let it.
I liked pop in the 80's and I got so much grief for it. They were calling me gay while they blasted Judas Priest. Great times
I've always liked The Bangles ever since "Walk Like An Egyptian". Before I even knew who Susanna Hoffs was 😍
Dude, she was HOT! Still is in her 50's.
Steve Perry was a casting call hire. The band's management insisted on a different sound. Journey's founding members were in Santana's band and they were about jamming, and they weren't selling records.They said they were not happy with it until they noticed thousands of people started lighting their Bics during a slow song that was getting heavy radio play. Money kicked in, and they were then fine with their new corporate sound.
I thought that WAS Bill Burr in Simply Red.
RUclips inserted a RuPaul Drag Race commercial right in the middle of all those hair band vids and it was visually seamless.
“Fuckin” boy George rocks”😂😂
It's just such a flexible word, though.🤣 I use it on everything
I've also had a similar sudden realization like that; one day I was doing dishes and Enjoy the Silence just *clicked*.
I'd to dry my hands and search it up on RUclips, knowing that somehow it was now one of my favorite songs.
Th joker clip with the laugh is so perfect. He does laugh like Mark Hamill's joker there.
2:35. Instantly thought of this clip 😂😂😂
please keep these coming 😂
Tommy Tutone and Greg Kihn along with The Knack and The Romantics , and early Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers and a thousand other guitar driven skinny tie bands would fall together loosely under the category of Power Pop. It was an important part of the post punk / new wave movement in the UK in the late 70s early 80s . Bram Tchaikovsky and early Nick Lowe would be fine examples. Loud , chimey guitars, hooks and memorable , singable choruses. Early Beatles and British invasion influences in the songwriting, along Spector girl group pop affectations in the melodies and vocal harmonies .
Thanks, Bill;
I just added a few more tunes to my ''80s playlist.
2:06 how did you find this!? I saw that ad maybe once growing up....
Never cared for songs like "(I've had)the time of my life" or "Must have been love" because they were played on radio all the time but now you can listen to them and notice that top talent were obviously in charge of composing and playing them in a studio. Even pop music was sophisticated back then
Duran Duran. Now I like them. Especially the bass. Ridiculous.
@stratdx
I was never that into Duran Duran then when they reformed years later my sister’s friend bailed on going with her so I had to take her to Manchester arena and they were ANAZING. Superb proper instruments band. Awesome.
It's hard to compose a successful pop song that is not corny. Even as a punk fan, i respect good pop
1:35 right around here you can hear a perfect example of modern day censorship's effect on comedy. At first he was comfortable saying what he wanted to say, the rocky horror picture show comment, then you can hear him nip it in the bud immediately after realizing he mightve "offended" some people with the comment, you can hear the realization in his voice.
Or maybe Bill realized he'd never seen the movie and didn't want to make a comment that would offend fans of it.
This is your brain on The Culture War BS.
What sucks is damn near every Culture Club song has badass bass lines.
Along with Duran Duran! John Taylor was an awesome Bass player! The Power Station record with John, Andy and Robert Palmer showed they could really kickass!
@@bigjohnson7415 John Taylor is literally my favorite bass player. Didn't care for Duran Duran as a young kid in the 80s. But once I started playing, and then paid attention to Rio he was my dude.
@@josephwalton487 👍👍👍
why does that suck
Those 1st 7 chords of Africa on the Piano is hard!! I need to learn that 🔥
I remember one time when I was a dumb 17 or 18 old, making some snide comment deriding my younger brother's taste in music for whatever it was he was listening to. Then, two or three years later, after picking up guitar, learning a bit, and thinking back on that snide comment, I realized I had been wrong, and anyway you're allowed to like what you like, and why the hell am I putting my little brother down over something so dumb in the first place, and what he was listening to actually wasn't bad, it just wasn't to my dumb narrow-minded taste at that time, but musically, it was fine, good even, -- I still think about that, and that was nearly 40 years ago. To sum up: You're allowed to like what you like and don't let anybody tell you different.
Bill talking about how great culture club me
Me: what are you a faaaaa#! 😂
"This guy loves culture club,
WHAT R U A FAG? PROBABLY LIKES BANANA PANCAKES TOO"
love that shit 😂
It's because the bass line for Do You Really Want to Hurt Me shreds.
Having worked in AM top 40 in the 80s...we called it pop rock...to feel good about ourselves
This is great to hear this, as I was 20 years old in 1980 and cringed when some of the music videos came out in the mid 80's. Being in the Air Force and trying to avoid the femininity of how bad music videos were getting. Angel CIty's 'Underground' fit well, Ratt's 'Lack of Communication' and Krokus' Stayed Awake All Night' were the cure all.
if TOTO never sold out, they would most likely go down as one of the best bands of the 80's.... first two albums are pure classics
Dude Bill is right . On all of it
we were in Air Supply heck in 81-82 before the electronic and heavy metal music rescued us
I remember the early eighties and the whole NewWave thing 😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅! Great time to be a kid.
That joker laughing cut was spot on
'Take It On The Run' by REO Speedwagon is a great song. Would love to hear Foo Fighters cover it.
That Culture Club/Mr T bit 😂
Those Knock It Off commercials started my crush on Hilary Duff ❤
Hahahaa that was great! When did those come out?
@@napoleonbonerfart278 If I remember correctly around 2009
I recall in 2001 my wife's gay friend was visiting and we were watching TV and one of those terrible marine commercials came on and i commercials omg this commercials are so GAY! I never seen him over again after that.
@@Wallyworld30 in the 90s everything was gay, fag, and so on. I wonder what the kids say these days.
@@AJ-lq3jz Back then my friends and I just called everything we didn't like gay. It was indeed a bad habit I'm glad we grew out of.
I used to Hate, HATE, Bon Jovi. I mean, HAAAAAATTTEEE. and now I kinda like them
you were right the first time
groovy vid. Bill nailed it. What are the two animated shows referenced besides the Simpsons?
F is for family
I was into rock, and hated love songs when I was a kid. Then a 15 year old girl kissed 14 year old me…. Bam! I understood Air Supply that same night.
Even as a kid, I felt the same way about grunge that Randy the Ram does in The Wrestler. I will always love hair metal and butt rock, the dumber the better. I agree with Beavis and Butthead that if a song has a message it sucks.
Bill is one of the few of his generation that has the self awareness to realize that what he listened to was corporate manufactured sissy af glam and hair metal garbage that should not even be considered metal. He has stated several times that he has now started to listen to real metal. He has even gone to Meshugah and Iron Maiden concerts. Its never too late. Bill is the GOAT.
Toto-Africa is song i hate from the first time I herd it and I will continue to do so till the day I die with burning passion, just cant stand anything about that song. Also Prince-Purple Rain I hated when it was new cause he was small feminine guy singing it and now i think is one of the bests songs ever and was and still am a fan of him.
Yeah, Toto totally pussed out. Their debut record when they showed off Steve Lukater's, not sure I spelled it right, his guitar playing was awesome!
Yup that culture club song brought Dub elements into a pop song. Good stuff
Everything he just said rings true for me. I always liked "Africa" though, Leo Moracchioli does a metal cover of it that is awesome. The guy has got a bunch of videos covering pop and rock songs in a metal style. It's cool if you like that kind of stuff.
VH1's entire video broadcast catalog from the '80s.
Bill is always fucking interesting.
Susan Sarandon in underwear is the only part of Rocky Horror you'll ever need to see Billy Boy
#1 ELO Don't Bring Me Down
All the tapes Marge grabbed out of the clearance bin are actually awesome!
Blinded by the light.. that song can go away
I've thought Africa was a shitty song since its release. The fact that Weezer covered it made it even more annoying.
Why dude get weak after buddy hit them Africa chords lol 😂
I'm Bill's age and loved me som Barry Manilow and the Carpenters.
africa is a good song. i don’t recognize the genre… definitely not rock&roll, rock, any kind of rock or blues related material, not that there’s anyone wrong with that…
Bill your taste in music IS TAKING A NOSE DIVE... Save yourself while there's anything left ! ! !
Foreigner was rockin' earlier on in their career, then in the 80s, they became a soft rock band. What the Hell, Foreigner!! Did they think we needed more music like what Air Supply was making? No, no we didn't.
Yeah. A flock of Seagulls still rock!
The lead guitar player was a monster!
My most hated ones are don’t stop believing, every rose has its thorn, jukebox hero, a lot of good 80s bands had at least one awful song lol
For myself, Steve Perry & Freddie sound like they are auditioning for the Vienna Boys Choir.
Judas priests eat me alive is a pretty gay... but much more literally.
Billy simply rednuts
I love air supply
How can he know what Rocky Horror Picture Show is like if he hasn't seen it?
Because its become part of the cultural zeitgeist. Lots of people know little bits of movies, sports, music, etc. that are just a part of our culture.
God, I hate Africa by Toto. Probably one of the most overplayed songs of all time and sick of hearing it.
Same as Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'" and Bon Jovi's "Living On A Prayer".
Nope, that would be Sweet Home Alabama, Hotel California or Living on a Prayer.
I said the same thing about the same music 😂
I GUESS THAT's WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES
Californication is NOT a balad. 😂
Bill, dance to “ do you really want to hurt me “ by culture club. I dare you
Look for the purple banana till they put us in the truck
Compared to the garbage they passes for rock these days I’ll take Air Supply anyway.
Indeed. Barely!🤣
Dennis Deyoung taking over Styx with his shit music was kind of like when Alan Alda got too much control over MASH.
"Still Loving You" by Scorpions should not be on the list. It's never been played out like so many others. "Wind Of Change" deserves to be on the list not SLY
We built this city on rockandroll, has to be top tier gay
Funny now old dudes complain about men being soft and dressing as women grew up with musicians who dressed like women.
Androgynous, is the proper term.
I never understood all the hate towards Michael Bolton. It's like the Bieber Derangement Syndrome that was rampant throughout the '10s: it didn't make any logical sense to hate something that fanatically. If you don't like the music, don't listen to it.
Careless Whisper
1984: so gay.
Now: still so gay…but also, class!
that's why I love the U.S.
they let anything let as insane as possible because of freedom and liberty and all that shit
and nobody can be like "woah you're going off the deep end" and that's what Art needs
and even though I don't really love any of these bands the shit that came after it in late 80's and 90's is what I like which was obviously influenced by all this
Thats not "Metal" thats Hair Rock, lol.
Africa is a great song, period.
Mr Roboto was the beginning of the end of Styx being any kind of serious rock band. The song itself was terrible but the video made me almost die of cringe it was so embarrassing. 🤣
Flock of seagulls rules
I Can't Fight this Feeling by REO Speedwagon, is the gayest song ever recorded...and I mean that in a South Park kinda way 🙂
Bill Burr is simply red lol
You're reminding me of how much I hated 80's mainstream pop. Nauseatingly cheesy!
Interesting to know that back in the 1960's The Beatles fan's were 90% teenage girls. In 2023 now 90% of their fans are middle aged men. Weird.
We all got old!🤣
The guys started showing up at the very last stage of their touring, 1966 - actually listening to the music once the craze died off a bit
Got to disagree with Bill on Simply Red. Any reference to that group should be eliminated from history
I remember thinking journey was the gayest band of all time... Then I heard separate ways and I was right
The R.A.D. movement being backed by the biggest bunch of druggies in rock and roll lmao Stephen Tyler telling kids to stay off drugs.
I maybe speaking blasphemous here but I actually like Weezer's cover of Africa over Toto's original Africa.
And I
How can anyone think Africa by ToTo is gay goes beyond me.
Lame, boring, dull.... not gay though
In the 80's I'd listen to Dio, Van Halen, Black Sabbath, Triumph, Cinderella, Ratt, Slayer, Metallica, Accept, Rush, The Cure, OMD, Yaz, Kraftwerk, Joy Division, Depeche Mode, Adam Ant, Ultravox, The Jam, Oingo Boingo, The Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, and others, but Foreigner, Starship, Bruce Springsteen, The Doobie Brothers, Loverboy, and other limp-dick "rock" bands made me want to puke, and I still hate them.
One that I used to not even pay attention to, but like now is Steely Dan.
Simply Red was the beginning of the end for good 80's music. It all sucked ass after that. Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, New Kids on The Block all sucked ass and still do.
Anything from Abba. Love Dancing Queen.
best sounding laughter in history is Paulie Walnuts from The Sopranos and Bill Burr
John Mayer is God
wuss rock?
that’s it!
Simply red. Ooff.
Perry 🤮 Journey 🤬☯️