@@lilmario0 its not about google is tracking me, its about google selling your info to make a quick buck. its also been proven your data even noted as "anonymous" can be linked to you as a person.
@@lilmario0 It uses similar tech for traffic information. Just anonymous phones close to each other and everyone loves that. But it's still tracking and there has been no uproar. Apple even uses Google's system for judging traffic based on how close phones are together on a road. There was one lady in London who put 15 phones in her bag and walked around ruining the navigation apps for everyone.
As an Apple user, this is always the problems I have with Android. I hate the, "This phone has this version of Android and maybe this other phone will get it next week but if you want it now, you can root the phone yourself" craziness. With that being said, I've seen a test like this done maybe 2 years ago with Apple and Samsung and while both trackers did very well, the Samsung was a tad better. I had no problem when I had my Android many years ago, but I'm too old now and don't have time to be messing with things and prefer the default settings to work well.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 The amount of users who root their phones are very small in comparison to what it was years ago. Many of those features can be found natively on the phone with no root necessary or using an app like Good Lock for Samsung devices.
Samsung , google and few other devices already have this feature, even when phone is turned off[ ultra wide bands] Android announced it will come to all new devices in this year onwords😊
No, >90% of all Android phones worldwide participate in the Find My Device network (~ 3 Billion devices). In contrast to iOS, all devices starting from Android Version 9 (2018) got the update automatically (via "Google Play Services").
I’d love to see more of these tests. Go on that international trip, one bag with an AirTag, one bag with a Samsung Tag+, one bag with the Chipolo, and one bag with the Pebblebee.
The fact that not all Android phones have had the new find my device network enabled I'm sure has a lot to do with it. It's brand new. I happened to get it recently, but a lot of people I know don't have it yet, so it'll get a lot better very soon I'm sure.
I would've agreed with you but android is years behind on this technology, they should've done this earlier, most devices already had the hardware for basic tracking like for a while too.
At 5:35 the android phone shows the exact location on the map. The lack of notification is not good. If you were actively looking for something though, you might have the app open and looking at it. There was also the choice to have directions on the android phone and overlooked it, while praising the iphone.
If it was able to pinpoint the location that accurately, then the giant green circle is rather confusing. It should be growing or shrinking based on confidence of the range.
I love how, at the 5:18 mark on the Android phone, you can see that the tracker is no longer in Lost mode. That explains why there was no notification and no accuracy. (For the haters, you can see at 2:24 that on the Android phone it says "Mark as found," but at 5:18 it says "Mark as lost.")
Super helpful!! I wish Apple’s AirTag is a little louder. There’s been a few times where I lost my keys that got buried in a gym bag. I can kinda hear it but I had to dump out everything to find the AirTag. But still, AirTags are a LIFESAVER!!
They might have their in the works, letting third party manufacturers work out the kinks and be a barometer test to see if there’s enough interest in the field before committing their resources to it or unveiling it.
Samsung tags would have been a better choice. If we're talking about ecosystems, it makes sense an AirTag vs Samsung tag video. If we're talking general trackers, we could have use Chipolo for both Android and iPhone
@@liamsz That is exactly my point. We're not testing "networks" in this video. We're testing ONE network in ONE ecosystem, vs an open, generic, works-for-all, no-crowdsource-network device different from the phone brand. If we want to test "networks", then it should be Apple's implementation vs Samsung's implementation. This video leds people to think that trackers that work with Android are terrible, and/or the Android system in itself is lacking. It's an unfair comparison
Next time include Samsung Smart Tag 2 in your next tracking video and also turn on the correct settings on your Android phone so the comparison is fair.
Yeah, you know they have to try and make Apple stand out. They don't want to piss off their Apple God. Android (Samsung) has all that and more, but they don't know how to work tech.
Thanks for actually demo-ing the Chipolo, I pre ordered one and was curious to see it in action. Yes, it would be great to see it in use when you travel overseas. I thought mine would be here on time for my upcoming flight but it won't so... Great video nonetheless.
The newest Find my device is still rolling out and UWB support is coming soon for the next iteration of find my device. so hopefully will see a repeat of this test after three months
You should redo the video by hiding the tags in separate places. Your comparison makes no sense when finding the Apple tag thanks to the Android tag that is very loud 😅
While I completely agree with you, do remember that she didn't get a single notification from Android and the only reason she could hear the Android tag is because Apple told her the general location of where they were (go to around the 5:50 mark of the video). She wasn't just aimlessly walking around Fisherman's Wharf. She knew the general location of the iPhone 4 minutes into the video, (edit: I mean 4 minutes on her stopwatch) waited and got another location at the 9 minute mark (edit: again, on her stopwatch) and finally decided to start walking when, 30 minutes in, she didn't get a notification. What would have been much better is to separate the two trackers, so I agree with you there, then see how long it takes to find each tracker without help from the competing app. This whole video was pretty much a waste of time! 😂😂😂
The comparison was for which could be found first. Android sound notification and location helped find it first. Apple said it was still 4 feet away. But credit was still given to Apple?? Make it make sense.
The problem with #2, however, is that Samsung tags only work with Samsung devices. If you have a Pixel or any of the many different Android variants, you can't use Samsung tags. With that said, she should redo this test for one other very obvious reason: they didn't separate the tags. She basically was using whatever information one system was giving her to then help her find the other tag. For example, 4 minutes into her stopwatch, Apple had already pinged her and let her know generally where the tags were. She waited 30 minutes, didn't get a ping from the Android device and said screw it, I'll just start walking. Well the only reason why she knew in which direction to walk is because the AirTag had already told her where they generally were. But then things switched up because the Android tag was the first one she could hear and she was able to hone in on where both of them were. They should have separated the two tags and ran the test each time, trying to find the android tag ONLY using android information and the same for the Airtag. That would be a much better test. If you want to throw Samsung's tags in there, that's fine, but it should be mentioned that if you have Android, but not a Samsung, you can't use the Samsung network to help you.
If the problem with #2 is the Samsung ecosystem, I'm sure you'll appreciate the problem with the comparison she did using the Apple ecosystem. Of course she should have compared Apple with Samsung to get a far more sensible result. @@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
I don't see how google can fix this. Their default settings purposely make their network not work well. Every person would have to manually change their settings for the whole system to work as well as Apple's. Even if they realize it was a mistake (and seeing all the news articles that have come out recently I guarantee they do) they can't go around changing people's settings without a lot of push back. As a long term Android user I'm very disappointed that in the end after all this wait we're not getting what Apple has, not for any technical reason, but for bad decisions on Google's part.
> they can't go around changing people's settings without a lot of push back. Given how little people seem to know about this feature I feel like Google could make that change silently without much uproar unless it blows up on news sites. Worst case they make the change and put up a vague popup after system update noting some scanning settings changed with a link into settings for user to opt out. Opt out behavior like this sucks but the alternative may be this feature not working well at all.
Galaxy Smart Tag 2 UWB When I pull down to refresh the Galaxy Network Map, Nearby history pop up. The Been Nearby notification is not protected software the virus attacks is use the tracker network.
It eliminates unwanted variables. This is the best approach to this test. Keep them together, and have both phones searching it at the same time and comparing what you see on either phone. How would you conduct this experiment? Lol.
@@kas4751 i would do them separately and different locations but around the same area. she was using two phones at once that's way too confusing and stupid.
@@iinfynitebeats so what if there are less foot traffic during one of the experiment because that location does not have the same exact number of people around and it was lunch time so most people are indoors having their lunch? Lol. How are you going to control the different variables at play? Then how are you to stop someone saying this was not a fair test because of this? Lol. Looking at a phone simultaneously and observing what u see is not confusing lol. In this case, one is showing something, the other isn’t. It’s clear, one is working, the other isn’t. Both experiencing the same conditions. Clear cut.
@@kas4751 The number of people outside is irrelevant and doesn't alter anything for the experiment. The experiment should of been done separately to have full focus on one device at a time. Why would you conduct an experiment using two devices from different OS's at the same time? That is a very unlikely scenario and makes absolutely no sense to do.
I travel often for work and I have a tracker in each of bags and luggage. I will save you the "business trip" ... Apple wins... pure and simple. Google's Find My Device system is broken - I can't find anything especially when I need to and I ended up getting an iPhone just for the Find capability. Google announced some type of partnership with Tile but I think that fell through the cracks and never came to fruition. Without Tile, Google's system is useless as the crowd-sourcing network is just very weak. Heck, it can't even find my Android devices or BT earbuds. If the Android device goes into a "deeper" sleep and never checked in, then you will not be able to find it. The "ring it" option also doesn't work reliably. Apple wins this hands down....
The Samsung tag is only used with Samsung phones. So if you have any other phone other than samsung, you can't buy a samsung tag, But this new network? It's for all Android phones, even Samsung phones. So in theory, once the bugs are worked out using the Google. Find my device will be better then samsung tags
I really hope there will be some kind of location history like you already have when using Samsung Galaxy SmartTags together with Samsung Galaxy smartphones.
This was not to test the tags. This was a test to test the network. Android opened up. It's fine, my device network for trackers. So she's really comparing apple and Android network, not a specific tracker.
I would like to see a 2nd review/test for Android with "With network in all areas" turn on. I would like to know if this will make a difference in terms of finding the lost tag.
Hoping to see Tile join the find my network. I feel like Tile has a decent enough install base that if they join that network it would probably be the best option for android users
The problem with Tile is it doesn't matter how many people have Tile; you have to have the app open for it to work. This is why Apple had no issues squashing them. I used to have Tile, but the moment AirTags came out and it was seamlessly blended into the Find My network, it was over.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 that's why I'm saying it would be good for them to join android find my. If they join it then the tile app won't be necessary anymore to track a tile.
@@mrj.juneau yep but the Google's network is not mature enough and another test is required. Plus it is interesting how it compared with Samsung's network.
I agree. The Google network is not mature enough to run this test. My problem is I'm a gadget geek. And I've been following this since they announced it. Over a year ago. I spent too much time reading and analyzing reviews over the last period for a $25. Item, I'm a nut.
This is a great video with helpful information. Can you please do another video with your Android's tracker with the "With network in all areas" option enabled?
@@mrj.juneau, yeah that's what I thought 😔 Hopefully, the "improvements" that Google is thinking about bringing out in the "next few weeks" will improve things a lot.
"a bit mature" is an understatement! The Apple find my network has been out for years whereas the Android's is just recently launched. On top of that you need the Google Find My Device app installed on an Android phone for it to participate in crowd sourced item finding.
I thought the Android network has been around for a long time. I remember a video being done like this maybe 4 years ago against Apple and Samsung. I'm assuming Samsung doesn't have its own network and is using the same Android network, right? Maybe I'm wrong with that assumption. Edit: Ok, I've read in other places and you can only use the Samsung network with Samsung phones. This is why I prefer Apple. Too much splintering with Android.
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 The Android network has been around for years but that was only to track your phone and Google things I think. Now, what's opened app to non Google? Items example bluetooth trackers. I agree if you're an apple person. Do use apple trackers, Not a problem, but even if we say it's a fifty-fifty split between apple and Google which it's not. I think worldwide Google. It's about 60%+ market share For Google. This opens up the market for trackers to be tracked With a bigger network. I currently have Samsung trackers and tile. Trackers, and I'm waiting to test the new chipolo ones. I'm hoping that that will be the answer. Not necessary chipolo, but the whole android network
But she only knew where to walk because of the AirTag literally telling her where to walk. She wouldn't have heard anything if she didn't know the general location of the tag in the first place. Which is why I thought it would have been way better to split up the tags so that each is found on its own merits. This test was flawed.
Accept it bro. First notif was from Apple. Android lost from that point. The faster the first notif the more chances you'll find your stuff. That's all that is needed. I use S24+
I've been thinking about using smart watches to remind you to check your items (with a vibration on your hand) when your destination is reached on a public transport. This method can assist you to remember to hold every items with you before exiting the public transport. Sometimes we have a tendency to forget things on the public transport but a strong haptic vibration on your smart watch with a notification message can remind you to hold unto your purchase items like groceries before exiting the vehicle. You can set an approximate time that it will take to reach your destination and the smart watch will trigger a haptic vibration to alert you to secure every items that you're carrying. You can use this method on a private vehicle as well when travelling with a friend. The set time don't need to be too specific but just a rough calculation that it will take to reach your destination. 😎💯💪🏾👍🏾
Hi, the purpose of this test was to test the networks, the Android network and the apple network. If she wanted to do a fairer test, she should have used chipolo point and spot to do the test. One of them is for Android. The other one is for apple. This is not to test the trackers. This is really to test the network. The only problem is it's too soon to test the Android network because they've just opened. Get up to Bluetooth, trackers.
I am puzzeled, there is all these concerns about privacy, but we take videos and pictures of accidents, tragic or so called funny moments of other people's lives. We are in a socity that is so evil we demand privacy of ourselves, but expext all others to bear their souls
She should have re-do the test since finding out at the end she didn't even enable the right settings for Android. This is wrong information . Not surprised
Yeah, should I also write a code and run on a cloud server to get the app working? While there are 10 advertisements every second on the lock screen of my android phone? And the data is also shared with some random Chinese server, who then sells my data to some CCP company to train their AI model for free?? No thanks
I have an android, but i got notification from an apple airtag if is "following" me (around a year ago i rented a trailer, and that has an airtag somewhere on it). About this "find my app" ... in default not even installed on a samsung device. So this is make more ineffective the network besside the default settings.
I've still never had my backpack stolen (or lost so severely that I couldn't find it) and if I did then I imagine whoever stole it could easy throw away the tag. Are these like exclusively sold to abusive boyfriends (the potential for misuse by stalkers seems to wildly outweigh the possible benefits) and paranoid true crime podcast moms?
1. There are other reasons to have a tracker. You've never misplaced your keys? You've never arrived at a new city, but your bag got lost? 2. In the case of a thief stealing a purse or something, sure, they could throw the tag away. But a. they'd have to know there was a tag in the bag and b. they'd have to find it. When I travel, I put an airtag on one my my socks. No thief is going to be looking for a tag, then go through every item of clothing to find it. They're first going to steal the item. They don't have time to examine it. When they get to a safe location, they'll then check to see what's inside of it.
Typical Google, they setup the settings by default to a lower detecting setting, plus google is hyper slow at issueing the update to ALL andtoid phones which does not help anyone.
Google has to work out the kinks for every Android phone type. Apple only had to map it to one type of device. A lot larger project when you consider all factors.
Here’s what stinks. I used to lose things all the time, like my keys and wallet, but this was before AirTags even existed. Since they’ve come out I haven’t lost anything.😂 I use my AirTags as a way to make sure I don’t leave anything behind when I’m leaving the house.
You "wouldn't" use them? Or you "don't" use them? That's like saying I don't wear a seatbelt because I never crash! You don't crash UNTIL YOU CRASH! I have an airtag on my keys and my wallet and when I travel, I put one in every bag, even my carry on luggage, in case they force me to check it in.
When she's en-route searching, on the video at 5:48, the Pixel device's screen shows the option to "Mark as lost". This only tells me that it was never marked as lost, probably missed out with the confirmation prompts following tapping "Mark as lost" So this test has gone from dumb to incredibly dumb, if she had never actually marked it as lost, and there's no way to know considering they never showed her completing the marking as lost on either phone. The Chipolo tracker showed it was last seen within her initial waiting period when she indicated to never have gotten a notification. That makes it even more likely that the Chipolo was never marked as lost to begin with. This test is as unscientific as it could get. That said, the Airtags are still superior especially in the United States where there are a lot of iPhones in America. The Android network will be complicated solely based on its device diversity, tracker diversity & global footprint, but it could become at-par or superior with time.
Hi thanks for watching the video! I marked both as lost at the same time, but what we didn’t show is me un-marking them both as lost at 30 mins. This is why you saw that on the screen.
Looks like the Google one made a noise helping pin point the Apple one more easily. Should have had 3 person experiment: one hide both. Other two on separate devices search for who finds it first
I agree with this statement, but I'm not sure that would help the thing with all areas. All the phones have to be set that way. I think I haven't figured it out. A 100%, but I'm pretty sure that all the The phones in the area need to be set that way.
Hi, This is not a test for the trackers. This is a test for the network. Android, just released to find my device network that finds trackers. And since apple's airtag have been around for a while, this is really just a test to see if the Google's version of the find my device is up and running currently, And will it actually find a device that was made for the network.
Until Google makes a first party UWB based tracker hopefully later this year, using one based on BT alone of course will lose out to a UWB based tracker like the Apple AirTag. The Pixel 8 Pro is equipped with UWB but can't utilize it with the latest Chipolo and Pebblebee trackers that use the latest iteration of Google's Find My Device Network sadly. Google would help their chances a lot if they include in all of their Pixel 9 devices later this fall if they want to give any chance at this new FMDN at maturing to even the Samsung SmartTag level much less Apple AirTag.
The experiment was rigged. Both the devices should have been placed seperately. And two persons should have been treasure hunting. By puting both of them together create a disadvantage as you were searching for airtag. and reached chiplo.
It would be good to see a tracker shopping comparison, to see how the Android trackers rate compared to the Apple, Samsung, and Tile trackers. Tile has always been third place when it comes to trackers. Have the Android trackers passed them, yet, so early into rollout?
Samsung makes tracking devices. How far down the barrel did you have to scratch to find a "Chipolo". Air tags are good products. If you're going to make an ad for them, just do so. The algorithm brought me here. For mature tech content I stick with The Verge.
The purpose of this test is to test the Android Find my device network and currently there's only 2 devices available that work on it. One of them is chipolo, And the other one is not a Samsung. This is not a test of trackers in theory. also this is not an ad, the name Chipolo is not in the discription. The description says Apple versus Google. There may be a hidden agenda with this company. But I don't see it to be biased for once specific tracker as there's only two trackers available, for the google network.
@@emmanuelmayr5895 Yes, I have four samsung tags mtself And they work great., but you have to have a Samsung phone to use it. The purpose of the above test has to do with the new network that opened up for Google. Find my device. Now is accepting Bluetooth trackers, which in theory will be better than the Samsung.
Didn't even have the setting on Android right to bring with. Android always give you additional options. That's what fan boys/girls don't understand. Also I don't think Android send u a notification, it shows u on the map right away where it is
@@eylonaharon6560 The title says apple versus Android. This is a test of the apple network versus the Android network. It's not a test of tag. Versus tag.
@eylonaharon6560 I know, believe me. I have a Samsung and I have Samsung tags and they work great. But a Samsung is Android. It falls under the umbrella of Android. It's not a test of devices, it's a test of the network.
The point of this was to test the 2 networks, the apple network and Android network. And currently, there's only two that I know of right now that are working with the android chipolo and Pebblebee. In theory, the android network will surpass the samsung smart tags
I feel like the Android one is just so underbaked, and the rolling out in different parts of the world at different times isn' going to help it either. Samsung does it pretty well with their Smarttags, but Android ones just kind of flopped right out of the gate.
Try comparison with the Samsung's Smart Tag 2. I work with both of them since my location in more favorable to be found by samsung phones instead of iPhones
AirTags not only work off of iPhones, they work off of iPads, Macs and MacBooks as well, so AirTags might still have an even bigger network than the Smart Tags in your region.
You only can use Galaxy tabs on a galaxy phone. I'm not sure if they will be recognized by other phones, but you only can set them up on a Galaxy phone.
1. You are comparing features which has been released for apple years ago, and google released it recently and not on all devices (due to apple hold back the feature) so you should wait 1 year 2. Check in a country where android is more.numbers than apple. 3. You used the chipolo which has shorter range, try it out with pebblebee.
Apple and Google already try to track me and everything I do on my phone. People think Siri and Google Assistant are there to answer questions when they both were developed for listening to you even with the phone turned off. They should give phones and computers away for free when you consider how much they make from mining your information and selling it to companies. I hate how i can talk to my wife about buying a new car and i open Safari and get new car ads popping up. They can take these trackers and do you know what with them. These trackers are just another way to mine your data. They didn't spend millions developing and maintaining these networks so you can find your keys. I'm 55 and I've never lost my keys.
Bad test in an area swarming with phones, mostly apple there, in real life that's unlikely. Setting the Android up properly would be good too. It can't use one phone if it isn't told to.
Google should really have the default be "With network in all areas". otherwise their whole network is going to be useless.
Yeah but also have to be mindful of the "GOOGLE IS TRACKINGGGGGGG ME" People. There tends to be more of those people on Android.
@@lilmario0 facts lol
@@lilmario0 its not about google is tracking me, its about google selling your info to make a quick buck. its also been proven your data even noted as "anonymous" can be linked to you as a person.
@@lilmario0 It uses similar tech for traffic information. Just anonymous phones close to each other and everyone loves that. But it's still tracking and there has been no uproar.
Apple even uses Google's system for judging traffic based on how close phones are together on a road.
There was one lady in London who put 15 phones in her bag and walked around ruining the navigation apps for everyone.
it's going to be by default in android 15
Overall “Find My app” is a life saver
Google is yet to enable Find network in many Android phones. Mine for example isn't enabled.
Seems like it is just rolling out. I got an email today saying that it will be enabled on my phone in 3 days, and I can opt out now.
@@Sigmaxt I think updates to phones should've come first long before these tracking devices.
@@vin.k.k Agreed, otherwise you just put out a half complete product with no real world use, it should be ready when launched.
That feature appear on my phone. But it does not turn on automatically.
@@သန့်ဇင်ဝေ I enabled it when the update dropped.
They should have added a third device with Samsung to find their brand of tracker as it supports UWB and Samsung phones are pretty common
Samsung Smart Tag+ and Smart Tag 2 support Ultra Wide Band.
The regular Samsung Smart Tag does NOT.
As an Apple user, this is always the problems I have with Android. I hate the, "This phone has this version of Android and maybe this other phone will get it next week but if you want it now, you can root the phone yourself" craziness. With that being said, I've seen a test like this done maybe 2 years ago with Apple and Samsung and while both trackers did very well, the Samsung was a tad better. I had no problem when I had my Android many years ago, but I'm too old now and don't have time to be messing with things and prefer the default settings to work well.
I Totally agree
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 The amount of users who root their phones are very small in comparison to what it was years ago. Many of those features can be found natively on the phone with no root necessary or using an app like Good Lock for Samsung devices.
And this is what I hate. I switched from Samsung to Google own phone, and yet Samsung tags are better on Android than Google's phone on Android
What we have learned: you have to glue them together, one to find the place and the other to hear it 😂
Or apple can make airtag's louder 👍🏻
All iphones are up to date. But only few android devices can aid in device tracking at the moment.
Samsung , google and few other devices already have this feature, even when phone is turned off[ ultra wide bands] Android announced it will come to all new devices in this year onwords😊
Blah blah blah LMAO
No, >90% of all Android phones worldwide participate in the Find My Device network (~ 3 Billion devices). In contrast to iOS, all devices starting from Android Version 9 (2018) got the update automatically (via "Google Play Services").
Excuses don't help you find your lost keys! Great networks do!!!
"All iPhones" So you mean just 1 phone in 3 different sizes? Open up iOS to all brands and see how well iPhones stay up to date
I’d love to see more of these tests. Go on that international trip, one bag with an AirTag, one bag with a Samsung Tag+, one bag with the Chipolo, and one bag with the Pebblebee.
Android network should be default activated in ALL areas, otherwise the entire network is almost useless
exactly!!!
The fact that not all Android phones have had the new find my device network enabled I'm sure has a lot to do with it. It's brand new. I happened to get it recently, but a lot of people I know don't have it yet, so it'll get a lot better very soon I'm sure.
I would've agreed with you but android is years behind on this technology, they should've done this earlier, most devices already had the hardware for basic tracking like for a while too.
At 5:35 the android phone shows the exact location on the map. The lack of notification is not good. If you were actively looking for something though, you might have the app open and looking at it. There was also the choice to have directions on the android phone and overlooked it, while praising the iphone.
If it was able to pinpoint the location that accurately, then the giant green circle is rather confusing. It should be growing or shrinking based on confidence of the range.
I love how, at the 5:18 mark on the Android phone, you can see that the tracker is no longer in Lost mode. That explains why there was no notification and no accuracy. (For the haters, you can see at 2:24 that on the Android phone it says "Mark as found," but at 5:18 it says "Mark as lost.")
Yep, they dont want to piss off their fanbase by being honest and making Apple look good to keep them coming. They are 🤡 🤡 🤡 as usual.
Super helpful!! I wish Apple’s AirTag is a little louder. There’s been a few times where I lost my keys that got buried in a gym bag. I can kinda hear it but I had to dump out everything to find the AirTag. But still, AirTags are a LIFESAVER!!
Google should make their own air tag equivalent
They might have their in the works, letting third party manufacturers work out the kinks and be a barometer test to see if there’s enough interest in the field before committing their resources to it or unveiling it.
Samsung tags would have been a better choice. If we're talking about ecosystems, it makes sense an AirTag vs Samsung tag video. If we're talking general trackers, we could have use Chipolo for both Android and iPhone
We're talking about the network here, not the tracker or ecosystem, just how both networks work and behave.
@@liamsz That is exactly my point. We're not testing "networks" in this video. We're testing ONE network in ONE ecosystem, vs an open, generic, works-for-all, no-crowdsource-network device different from the phone brand. If we want to test "networks", then it should be Apple's implementation vs Samsung's implementation. This video leds people to think that trackers that work with Android are terrible, and/or the Android system in itself is lacking. It's an unfair comparison
@@ronaldbardalez6318 Exactly. Finally, someone who knows how to create testing conditions.
5:53 on the android, it likely didn't send a notification because you had the app open and it usually doesn't send notifications while the app is open
Next time include Samsung Smart Tag 2 in your next tracking video and also turn on the correct settings on your Android phone so the comparison is fair.
Butt hurttttt
Yeah, you know they have to try and make Apple stand out. They don't want to piss off their Apple God. Android (Samsung) has all that and more, but they don't know how to work tech.
Thanks for actually demo-ing the Chipolo, I pre ordered one and was curious to see it in action. Yes, it would be great to see it in use when you travel overseas. I thought mine would be here on time for my upcoming flight but it won't so... Great video nonetheless.
The newest Find my device is still rolling out and UWB support is coming soon for the next iteration of find my device. so hopefully will see a repeat of this test after three months
You should redo the video by hiding the tags in separate places. Your comparison makes no sense when finding the Apple tag thanks to the Android tag that is very loud 😅
Agreed. I was surprised they didn’t stash the tags in different places.
While I completely agree with you, do remember that she didn't get a single notification from Android and the only reason she could hear the Android tag is because Apple told her the general location of where they were (go to around the 5:50 mark of the video). She wasn't just aimlessly walking around Fisherman's Wharf. She knew the general location of the iPhone 4 minutes into the video, (edit: I mean 4 minutes on her stopwatch) waited and got another location at the 9 minute mark (edit: again, on her stopwatch) and finally decided to start walking when, 30 minutes in, she didn't get a notification.
What would have been much better is to separate the two trackers, so I agree with you there, then see how long it takes to find each tracker without help from the competing app. This whole video was pretty much a waste of time! 😂😂😂
The only fair thing is to redo the comparison with the Android set to With Network in all areas.
More tests coming! This is just the start
The comparison was for which could be found first. Android sound notification and location helped find it first. Apple said it was still 4 feet away. But credit was still given to Apple?? Make it make sense.
You should re-do this video because:
1. You didn't enable the correct settings on your Android device.
2. You didn't include Samsung Smart Tag 2.
Sounds like another video,that should happen
The problem with #2, however, is that Samsung tags only work with Samsung devices. If you have a Pixel or any of the many different Android variants, you can't use Samsung tags.
With that said, she should redo this test for one other very obvious reason: they didn't separate the tags. She basically was using whatever information one system was giving her to then help her find the other tag.
For example, 4 minutes into her stopwatch, Apple had already pinged her and let her know generally where the tags were. She waited 30 minutes, didn't get a ping from the Android device and said screw it, I'll just start walking. Well the only reason why she knew in which direction to walk is because the AirTag had already told her where they generally were.
But then things switched up because the Android tag was the first one she could hear and she was able to hone in on where both of them were. They should have separated the two tags and ran the test each time, trying to find the android tag ONLY using android information and the same for the Airtag. That would be a much better test. If you want to throw Samsung's tags in there, that's fine, but it should be mentioned that if you have Android, but not a Samsung, you can't use the Samsung network to help you.
They should do pebblebee's trackers.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403It'll still be nice to see how well it'll work... Especially if the person is a Samsung user.
If the problem with #2 is the Samsung ecosystem, I'm sure you'll appreciate the problem with the comparison she did using the Apple ecosystem. Of course she should have compared Apple with Samsung to get a far more sensible result. @@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403
No android fan was hurt in this video. 😅
@@spaghettiman600 I have a Droid in personal life and a apple given to me by work. I only pick the apple up when I need to work on it. 0 personal use.
At least they can customize their phones 😂😂😂😂
Now both can customise… So what has Android got, that a general buyer should consider it.
Not a single Android user walked by that week on Pier 39 😂
I have an S24+. Thanks to this video now I know the smarttag that came with this is useless lol.
Android network is more useful outside US because, outside US there is more android user.
Yeah. Technically.
I don't see how google can fix this. Their default settings purposely make their network not work well. Every person would have to manually change their settings for the whole system to work as well as Apple's. Even if they realize it was a mistake (and seeing all the news articles that have come out recently I guarantee they do) they can't go around changing people's settings without a lot of push back. As a long term Android user I'm very disappointed that in the end after all this wait we're not getting what Apple has, not for any technical reason, but for bad decisions on Google's part.
> they can't go around changing people's settings without a lot of push back.
Given how little people seem to know about this feature I feel like Google could make that change silently without much uproar unless it blows up on news sites. Worst case they make the change and put up a vague popup after system update noting some scanning settings changed with a link into settings for user to opt out. Opt out behavior like this sucks but the alternative may be this feature not working well at all.
Agreed. Long term android user and very disappointed
Galaxy Smart Tag 2 UWB
When I pull down to refresh the Galaxy Network Map, Nearby history pop up.
The Been Nearby notification is not protected software the virus attacks is use the tracker network.
In the US it's obvious because more people use iPhones over Android and also Android just rolled out this feature
Also in Prague, Czechia.
that was so stupid. how you gonna put both tags in the same location. do them one at a time....wtf?
It eliminates unwanted variables. This is the best approach to this test. Keep them together, and have both phones searching it at the same time and comparing what you see on either phone. How would you conduct this experiment? Lol.
@@kas4751 i would do them separately and different locations but around the same area. she was using two phones at once that's way too confusing and stupid.
@@iinfynitebeats so what if there are less foot traffic during one of the experiment because that location does not have the same exact number of people around and it was lunch time so most people are indoors having their lunch? Lol. How are you going to control the different variables at play? Then how are you to stop someone saying this was not a fair test because of this? Lol. Looking at a phone simultaneously and observing what u see is not confusing lol. In this case, one is showing something, the other isn’t. It’s clear, one is working, the other isn’t. Both experiencing the same conditions. Clear cut.
@@kas4751
The number of people outside is irrelevant and doesn't alter anything for the experiment.
The experiment should of been done separately to have full focus on one device at a time.
Why would you conduct an experiment using two devices from different OS's at the same time?
That is a very unlikely scenario and makes absolutely no sense to do.
I travel often for work and I have a tracker in each of bags and luggage. I will save you the "business trip" ... Apple wins... pure and simple. Google's Find My Device system is broken - I can't find anything especially when I need to and I ended up getting an iPhone just for the Find capability. Google announced some type of partnership with Tile but I think that fell through the cracks and never came to fruition. Without Tile, Google's system is useless as the crowd-sourcing network is just very weak. Heck, it can't even find my Android devices or BT earbuds. If the Android device goes into a "deeper" sleep and never checked in, then you will not be able to find it. The "ring it" option also doesn't work reliably. Apple wins this hands down....
Why not use Samsung smart tags?
I was thinking the same thing...weird.
It's terrible!
Samsung is trash!
@@hhbadarinStop lying.
Samsung Smart Tag 2 is great.
The Samsung tag is only used with Samsung phones. So if you have any other phone other than samsung, you can't buy a samsung tag, But this new network? It's for all Android phones, even Samsung phones. So in theory, once the bugs are worked out using the Google. Find my device will be better then samsung tags
I really hope there will be some kind of location history like you already have when using Samsung Galaxy SmartTags together with Samsung Galaxy smartphones.
Yes, I agree with that. It doesn't need to be a number of days. It just needs to be like the last 20 - 50 location spots.
What about Tile devices? They work with either OS and come in many form factors. They've also been around longer and theoretically more mature system.
I have not good experience with the tile tracker. The network is too small.
I'm surprised the Samsung tag wasn't included.
This was not to test the tags. This was a test to test the network. Android opened up. It's fine, my device network for trackers. So she's really comparing apple and Android network, not a specific tracker.
Sam-whaa? Ppl actually get those?
Great video
THIS GIRL DESERVE HIS OWN CHANNEL
I have Samsung Smart Tags I think seem to work really well. Could you do a comparison with those?
I would like to see a 2nd review/test for Android with "With network in all areas" turn on. I would like to know if this will make a difference in terms of finding the lost tag.
But doesn't that just affect your phone, not whether or not the device is going to be found by other phones?
@@mrj.juneauyou are correct. That doesn't help you find your own device, it helps other people find theirs.
Hoping to see Tile join the find my network. I feel like Tile has a decent enough install base that if they join that network it would probably be the best option for android users
The problem with Tile is it doesn't matter how many people have Tile; you have to have the app open for it to work. This is why Apple had no issues squashing them. I used to have Tile, but the moment AirTags came out and it was seamlessly blended into the Find My network, it was over.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 that's why I'm saying it would be good for them to join android find my. If they join it then the tile app won't be necessary anymore to track a tile.
It will be great to repeat this test later with Samsung's SmartTag involved.
This was not a test of trackers. This was a test of the network.
@@mrj.juneau yep but the Google's network is not mature enough and another test is required. Plus it is interesting how it compared with Samsung's network.
I agree. The Google network is not mature enough to run this test. My problem is I'm a gadget geek. And I've been following this since they announced it. Over a year ago. I spent too much time reading and analyzing reviews over the last period for a $25. Item, I'm a nut.
@@mrj.juneau you might be interested in an OpenHaystack project :)
This is a great video with helpful information. Can you please do another video with your Android's tracker with the "With network in all areas" option enabled?
This isn't going to help because all phones in the neighborhood have to be set like that.
@@mrj.juneau, yeah that's what I thought 😔 Hopefully, the "improvements" that Google is thinking about bringing out in the "next few weeks" will improve things a lot.
Getting warmer, WARMER, GOT IT
The Android network was just launched whilst the Apple network is a bit mature. I don't know if this is a fair comparison.
Yes, I agree. It's too early to tell, but this gives us a benchmark to see where it's gonna go
I'll definitely revisit in a few months! This is just the first test 😊
"a bit mature" is an understatement! The Apple find my network has been out for years whereas the Android's is just recently launched. On top of that you need the Google Find My Device app installed on an Android phone for it to participate in crowd sourced item finding.
I thought the Android network has been around for a long time. I remember a video being done like this maybe 4 years ago against Apple and Samsung. I'm assuming Samsung doesn't have its own network and is using the same Android network, right? Maybe I'm wrong with that assumption.
Edit: Ok, I've read in other places and you can only use the Samsung network with Samsung phones. This is why I prefer Apple. Too much splintering with Android.
@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 The Android network has been around for years but that was only to track your phone and Google things I think.
Now, what's opened app to non Google? Items example bluetooth trackers.
I agree if you're an apple person. Do use apple trackers, Not a problem, but even if we say it's a fifty-fifty split between apple and Google which it's not. I think worldwide Google. It's about 60%+ market share For Google. This opens up the market for trackers to be tracked With a bigger network. I currently have Samsung trackers and tile. Trackers, and I'm waiting to test the new chipolo ones. I'm hoping that that will be the answer. Not necessary chipolo, but the whole android network
Why would you put both in the same place?
why is it hard for the so-called tech reviwers to differentiate between an OS name and a company name. Android vs. Apple. Bruhhh..
Lol finds apple tag because the android tag is very loud ^^
But she only knew where to walk because of the AirTag literally telling her where to walk. She wouldn't have heard anything if she didn't know the general location of the tag in the first place. Which is why I thought it would have been way better to split up the tags so that each is found on its own merits. This test was flawed.
@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 I'm absolutely with you, if you want to do science, do it with current standards
If the Chippolo wasn’t making a sound, the AirTag would still be found. AirTags are just too precise.
Accept it bro. First notif was from Apple. Android lost from that point. The faster the first notif the more chances you'll find your stuff. That's all that is needed. I use S24+
I've been thinking about using smart watches to remind you to check your items (with a vibration on your hand) when your destination is reached on a public transport. This method can assist you to remember to hold every items with you before exiting the public transport. Sometimes we have a tendency to forget things on the public transport but a strong haptic vibration on your smart watch with a notification message can remind you to hold unto your purchase items like groceries before exiting the vehicle. You can set an approximate time that it will take to reach your destination and the smart watch will trigger a haptic vibration to alert you to secure every items that you're carrying. You can use this method on a private vehicle as well when travelling with a friend. The set time don't need to be too specific but just a rough calculation that it will take to reach your destination. 😎💯💪🏾👍🏾
Hi, the purpose of this test was to test the networks, the Android network and the apple network. If she wanted to do a fairer test, she should have used chipolo point and spot to do the test. One of them is for Android. The other one is for apple. This is not to test the trackers. This is really to test the network. The only problem is it's too soon to test the Android network because they've just opened. Get up to Bluetooth, trackers.
I am puzzeled, there is all these concerns about privacy, but we take videos and pictures of accidents, tragic or so called funny moments of other people's lives. We are in a socity that is so evil we demand privacy of ourselves, but expext all others to bear their souls
So what does this have to do with this video
Very awesome video, thank you! Can't wait for UWB for Android and just overall improvements to be made to Google's FMD app.
Moto Air Tag use uwb and joined Google Find Devices Network.
Not many android phone do have UWB
I wonder how Samsung's smart tags fair against these
She should have re-do the test since finding out at the end she didn't even enable the right settings for Android. This is wrong information . Not surprised
All testing should be done in default settings as 99% of people never change defaults
Lmaoo, apple doesn’t need messing with settings womp womp
Yeah, should I also write a code and run on a cloud server to get the app working? While there are 10 advertisements every second on the lock screen of my android phone? And the data is also shared with some random Chinese server, who then sells my data to some CCP company to train their AI model for free?? No thanks
@@starship_01your IQ as high as cnet employees 😂
What is Chipolo? Why not use the Samsung SmartTag+/2 and a Samsung Galaxy S22/23/24 Ultra? Those use Bluetooth UW too.
I dont belive Samusng trackers are on the same find my device network they have there own , hope fully that will change
This was not to test the trackers. This was to test the network.
@@mrj.juneau What Network? Use the Samsung tag woth wide bamd and you can find ot easier because of the wide band.
So this is just a commercial for iPhones and air tags? You waited until the end to show the proper way to set up the Android phone? Hmmmmm....
Lesson: Put an airtag on your android tracker
I have an android, but i got notification from an apple airtag if is "following" me (around a year ago i rented a trailer, and that has an airtag somewhere on it).
About this "find my app" ... in default not even installed on a samsung device. So this is make more ineffective the network besside the default settings.
So we need one airtag to find the android version, handy to know.
I've still never had my backpack stolen (or lost so severely that I couldn't find it) and if I did then I imagine whoever stole it could easy throw away the tag.
Are these like exclusively sold to abusive boyfriends (the potential for misuse by stalkers seems to wildly outweigh the possible benefits) and paranoid true crime podcast moms?
And people who are constantly losing everything. I have one on my tv remote, my keys, my wallet, and my suitcase. Super helpful honestly.
1. There are other reasons to have a tracker. You've never misplaced your keys? You've never arrived at a new city, but your bag got lost?
2. In the case of a thief stealing a purse or something, sure, they could throw the tag away. But a. they'd have to know there was a tag in the bag and b. they'd have to find it. When I travel, I put an airtag on one my my socks. No thief is going to be looking for a tag, then go through every item of clothing to find it. They're first going to steal the item. They don't have time to examine it. When they get to a safe location, they'll then check to see what's inside of it.
Typical Google, they setup the settings by default to a lower detecting setting, plus google is hyper slow at issueing the update to ALL andtoid phones which does not help anyone.
Google has to work out the kinks for every Android phone type. Apple only had to map it to one type of device. A lot larger project when you consider all factors.
I missed the old thumbnail it was so funny 😂😭
That thumbnail 😂
I prefer the AirTags but I wouldn’t even use them because I don’t really lose things around the house
I only use them when traveling. Helpful to know if bags made it.
Here’s what stinks. I used to lose things all the time, like my keys and wallet, but this was before AirTags even existed. Since they’ve come out I haven’t lost anything.😂 I use my AirTags as a way to make sure I don’t leave anything behind when I’m leaving the house.
You "wouldn't" use them? Or you "don't" use them? That's like saying I don't wear a seatbelt because I never crash! You don't crash UNTIL YOU CRASH!
I have an airtag on my keys and my wallet and when I travel, I put one in every bag, even my carry on luggage, in case they force me to check it in.
You can use them on pets, children, and luggage. You gotta think outside the box.
@@superiortoall22 I'd probably get in trouble if I attached them to children, as I don't have any. 🙂
What happens if you make it a three-way test by adding Tile?
This was not a test of trackers. This was a test of the network.
Would love to see you use a Samsung device and compare their smart tags vs these 2 trackers.
When she's en-route searching, on the video at 5:48, the Pixel device's screen shows the option to "Mark as lost". This only tells me that it was never marked as lost, probably missed out with the confirmation prompts following tapping "Mark as lost"
So this test has gone from dumb to incredibly dumb, if she had never actually marked it as lost, and there's no way to know considering they never showed her completing the marking as lost on either phone.
The Chipolo tracker showed it was last seen within her initial waiting period when she indicated to never have gotten a notification. That makes it even more likely that the Chipolo was never marked as lost to begin with.
This test is as unscientific as it could get. That said, the Airtags are still superior especially in the United States where there are a lot of iPhones in America. The Android network will be complicated solely based on its device diversity, tracker diversity & global footprint, but it could become at-par or superior with time.
Hi thanks for watching the video! I marked both as lost at the same time, but what we didn’t show is me un-marking them both as lost at 30 mins. This is why you saw that on the screen.
Looks like the Google one made a noise helping pin point the Apple one more easily.
Should have had 3 person experiment: one hide both. Other two on separate devices search for who finds it first
Nice video
Last week I received the same Chipolo One Point. It turns out I’m not the only one who can’t find my device.
The fair thing to do would be to redo the comparison with the Android set to With network in all areas
I agree with this statement, but I'm not sure that would help the thing with all areas. All the phones have to be set that way. I think I haven't figured it out. A 100%, but I'm pretty sure that all the The phones in the area need to be set that way.
You should do versus Samsung Smart tag 2. Think that's a better comparison
Hi, This is not a test for the trackers. This is a test for the network.
Android, just released to find my device network that finds trackers.
And since apple's airtag have been around for a while, this is really just a test to see if the Google's version of the find my device is up and running currently, And will it actually find a device that was made for the network.
That thumbnail got like 3 pixels total
She was only able to hear the android tracker after using the airtag’s directions to get to both of them 😂
could've separated both trackers for better differentiation on experience
Until Google makes a first party UWB based tracker hopefully later this year, using one based on BT alone of course will lose out to a UWB based tracker like the Apple AirTag. The Pixel 8 Pro is equipped with UWB but can't utilize it with the latest Chipolo and Pebblebee trackers that use the latest iteration of Google's Find My Device Network sadly. Google would help their chances a lot if they include in all of their Pixel 9 devices later this fall if they want to give any chance at this new FMDN at maturing to even the Samsung SmartTag level much less Apple AirTag.
The experiment was rigged. Both the devices should have been placed seperately. And two persons should have been treasure hunting. By puting both of them together create a disadvantage as you were searching for airtag. and reached chiplo.
9:08 This demonstration is interesting 🤔💭🤔💭. Apple really did beat android by a big margin.
Strongly suggest that cNet redo the test in order to balance the errors that were made during the making of the video to be a fair comparison
It would be good to see a tracker shopping comparison, to see how the Android trackers rate compared to the Apple, Samsung, and Tile trackers. Tile has always been third place when it comes to trackers. Have the Android trackers passed them, yet, so early into rollout?
You need to test out a Samsung Smart Tags.
This video was not about testing Trackers, it's about testing the network.
Samsung makes tracking devices. How far down the barrel did you have to scratch to find a "Chipolo". Air tags are good products. If you're going to make an ad for them, just do so. The algorithm brought me here. For mature tech content I stick with The Verge.
The purpose of this test is to test the Android Find my device network and currently there's only 2 devices available that work on it. One of them is chipolo, And the other one is not a Samsung.
This is not a test of trackers in theory.
also this is not an ad, the name Chipolo is not in the discription. The description says Apple versus Google. There may be a hidden agenda with this company. But I don't see it to be biased for once specific tracker as there's only two trackers available, for the google network.
My galaxy tags get 3x more pings than my airtags.
Please include the Galaxy Smarttag next time
This was not a test of trackers. This was a test of the network.
@@mrj.juneau yea but Samsung uses their own network and it would be nice to see how it compares
@@emmanuelmayr5895 Yes, I have four samsung tags mtself And they work great., but you have to have a Samsung phone to use it. The purpose of the above test has to do with the new network that opened up for Google. Find my device. Now is accepting Bluetooth trackers, which in theory will be better than the Samsung.
What happens if the airtag is flushed down the toilet? Will we be able to see the whole path?
Redo test with the new android option activated
Galaxy smart tag 2 and Chipolo together. I like one idea, so allow me to stop being fussy.
This is not very surprising because most people have an iPhone, so crowdsourcing is a key factor.
Didn't even have the setting on Android right to bring with. Android always give you additional options. That's what fan boys/girls don't understand. Also I don't think Android send u a notification, it shows u on the map right away where it is
You should have added the Samsung smart tag to the test...
samsung smart tags only work with samsung phones.
@@mrj.juneau
And the air tags only work with iPhones🤷♂️
No reason not to include it in the test
@@eylonaharon6560 The title says apple versus Android. This is a test of the apple network versus the Android network. It's not a test of tag. Versus tag.
@mrj.juneau
I know...
But I think it should have been android vs. samsung vs. apple
@eylonaharon6560 I know, believe me. I have a Samsung and I have Samsung tags and they work great. But a Samsung is Android. It falls under the umbrella of Android. It's not a test of devices, it's a test of the network.
So she used a Samsung phone to track Chipolo but not a Samsung tag 2 with UWB?
It is a Pixel 8 Pro
@@LexySavvides Exactly
The point of this was to test the 2 networks, the apple network and Android network. And currently, there's only two that I know of right now that are working with the android chipolo and Pebblebee. In theory, the android network will surpass the samsung smart tags
I feel like the Android one is just so underbaked, and the rolling out in different parts of the world at different times isn' going to help it either. Samsung does it pretty well with their Smarttags, but Android ones just kind of flopped right out of the gate.
Try comparison with the Samsung's Smart Tag 2. I work with both of them since my location in more favorable to be found by samsung phones instead of iPhones
AirTags not only work off of iPhones, they work off of iPads, Macs and MacBooks as well, so AirTags might still have an even bigger network than the Smart Tags in your region.
I use Galaxy Tabs and they are way more accurate. They will also use any Android and IOS phone so it's always being seen.
You only can use Galaxy tabs on a galaxy phone. I'm not sure if they will be recognized by other phones, but you only can set them up on a Galaxy phone.
I have both of those!
1. You are comparing features which has been released for apple years ago, and google released it recently and not on all devices (due to apple hold back the feature) so you should wait 1 year
2. Check in a country where android is more.numbers than apple.
3. You used the chipolo which has shorter range, try it out with pebblebee.
Just use samsung smart tag. Way better and as good if not better than airtag
You need a Samsung phone
shopuld have added samsung's smartTag. SO much better
Don’t you mean should of invested
in the us android is very much at a disadvantage everywhere else in the world android would be way better.
Apple and Google already try to track me and everything I do on my phone. People think Siri and Google Assistant are there to answer questions when they both were developed for listening to you even with the phone turned off. They should give phones and computers away for free when you consider how much they make from mining your information and selling it to companies. I hate how i can talk to my wife about buying a new car and i open Safari and get new car ads popping up. They can take these trackers and do you know what with them. These trackers are just another way to mine your data. They didn't spend millions developing and maintaining these networks so you can find your keys. I'm 55 and I've never lost my keys.
I learned I should put an AirTag on my Android tracker.
Let me buy some both devices between Apple and Google.
Wonder what took android so long to add find my device feature
Apple let stalkers use their network and Google worked to prevent that so had to wait for Apple to update theirs before Google released it
My smart things app works fine on my samsung phone
Mine too, but you can never switch phones cause If you buy a different phone than samsung., you can't use those tags anymore.
Bad test in an area swarming with phones, mostly apple there, in real life that's unlikely. Setting the Android up properly would be good too. It can't use one phone if it isn't told to.