In any case, those LEO (Low Earth Orbit) satellites used for search and rescue are a minimum of 160km (524,000 feet) above earth's surface, but usually around 1,500 to 2,000km above earth's surface... Key Satellite Systems for Search and Rescue: 1. COSPAS-SARSAT (LEOSAR + GEOSAR) - LEOSAR provides better coverage for detecting and locating distress signals. - GEOSAR provides real-time alerting but less precise location detection. 2. Galileo SAR Service - Integrated into the Galileo satellite navigation system, it provides fast response time for search and rescue operations. 3. Iridium - Provides global communication for satellite phones and can be used in emergency situations. 4. Inmarsat - Used for maritime and aviation distress communications. The wording slip-up at the beginning of this video is common among Yanks who refuse to join the 19th century (i.e. the 1875 'Treaty of the Metre') because they're still stuck in the dark ages... To be honest, I'm surprised the Septic Tank Yanks aren't still measuring in Pole or Perch, Furlongs, Hogsheads, Hundredweights, Pennyweight, Kilderkins and Pottles.
I think the low orbit, non geo locked satellites could have an advantage because if you don‘t have a connection to a geo locked one from within the canyon and you are unable to move then that‘s pretty much it. But with the moving satellite it could at some point move right above you and allow you to send a message for brief time.
@@alexandrumacovei7174did you even watch the video?😂 the pixel and iphone both had no connection inside the canyon. What I am saying is that with the pixel you will never have connection since the satellites are geo locked. But with the iphone you could at some point have a chance. And I think it would be much less than 2 hours unless you are really unlucky. Because those satellites move really fast.
@@Terajoel Actually, the iPhone clearly had difficulty finding signal in the second test while the android didn't struggle at all. I think you are the one that didn't watch the video.
@@willo1345 no that‘s exactly what I‘m saying. It may hav difficulties to find it sometimes but eventually it will since the satellite has move. But for the pixel it either has a connection or not.
if you can't connect to a geostationary satellite i would think there wouldn't be enough sky for the low earth orbit satellite to establish a connection to your phone before it drifts away
@@Mike_v_E The are rumors or even ?beta? screenshots of S24 lineup getting this. But if course you never know for sure before you have it on your phone
@@Mike_v_E Most likely only newer models since they require special antennas, unless they have been putting these in their phones long before releasing the feature which is unlikely as it's an additional cost.
@@epender I believe it is built into the modems of the phones. The pixel 9 has the same modem as the S24, so I believe Samsung just needs to build an update
As someone who likes to go hiking, satelite sos and messaging is a very appealing feature to have. So I guess when I'm upgrading my current phone I'm getting a pixel
@@cmdraljaz77 messaging via satellite will also be available with IOS soon. Samsung still has it in the works. It won’t be a google pixel only feature.
@@battery_wattage that's nice, but I'd pick Google pixel still rather than Samsung or apple because it can have an unlock bootloader allowing for many mods that I like
@@cmdraljaz77 I wish we could flash GrapheneOS and still keep the satellite SOS function. Of course it's not possible, but I'll never use a regular Pixel or Samsung with all that adware and spyware on it.
For the iPhone, make sure you keep the phone in an upright position (not tilted to left/right) when testing for the best results. If it’s asking you move, it’s best to reposition yourself to face that way. I’ve found the most success with this.
Great video. A couple thoughts. 1. The Android phone asking you to calibrate your compass was hopefully a one time thing. If you were a normal Android user, you would have done this the first time you opened Google Maps app. Curious if I'm wrong on this. I don't know the Pixel 9 SOS app specifically. 2. Your test was fair but it neglects an advantage of the Garmin inReach Mini 2. You can clip that satellite communication device to your pack and send your message from your iPhone and appreciate nature while the inReach transmits to the satellite -- no pointing required.
Calibration is kind of not a one time thing. It usually only requests to calibrate if it detects a lot of interference from other magnetic sources. It’s relatively uncommon though.
Theoretically speaking, you could throw the inreach to a higher spot (maybe tied to a string) and have the antenna on a more favorable position and clnnect to it via bluetooth.. just another option when in desperate need
Great first test and comparison. Seems like Harmin has another year or two to really become competitive and your video on upcoming Garmin news, including the early posting of video and phone service, might demonstrate future directions. Thanks for the terrific insight.
I am disheartened to learn that activation of the SOS function on these devices first REQUIRES a GPS location. In contrast, the Garmin Mini gives me the option to send out a Preset Message before a GPS ‘lock’ has occurred. Since commercial SOS message response providers will attempt to establish a text dialog with the person who activated this emergency function, I would be happy to reply with the description of my location in the event that GPS service was unavailable for any reason. Even limited SOS messaging is better than none…
I wish Garmin would let you opt out of GPS quicker though. It take a while to get a fix and get that popup asking you if you want to send without location. A hack I found that seems to speed up my message sends is to mark a waypoint first, and then send right after. Seems to work quicker for whatever reason.
@@billruttan117 gps is powered by satellites, if you can't get a location from those satellites it's very unlikely you're going to be able to connect to a communication satellite as they'll be disrupted by many of the same factors
@@venykrid A GPS ‘fix’ requires simultaneous reception from at least three orbiting satellites, plus processing time. That time can be significant if system Almanac data must first be downloaded. In contrast, any two-way communicator only needs to ‘see’ one of its associated satellites to send off an emergency (SOS) message. My real point is that a satellite dependent emergency device should be as simple and robust as possible and not necessarily ‘inhibited’ by lack of position information from a different source.
I have used phones as primary GPS units for many years all over the world. They have never taken more than a few seconds (maybe a minute years ago with a very old phone) to find GPS location. My Inreach, OTOH, takes a really long time regularly... Phones have much larger processors etc and can do the GPS calcs incredibly quickly. GPS satellites are not going down short of a world-threatening crisis.
@@DerDoJo but I am an android user and I would like to stay with Android. Plus no emergency on iPhone in Bulgaria
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@@m-faccin to my knowledge, it depends on the specific country since spectrum in the EEA and Europe mainly is regulated by local authorities like BAKOM, BNetzA and Ofcom.
Pretty good as far as android now that apple has had this for awhile now. Apple is also adding non emergency texting on ios18 and is available as a public beta right now. No need to carry a secondary device for emergencies anymore.
i was going to say that in the first test the iPhone was faster than the pixel, if you measure from the time you press "try demo" to the time you receive the satellite message. but that's not really important. what matters is that the feature actually works!
The pixel 7 and 8 us the Exynos 5300 modem which technically has NTN capability. It's interesting that Google waited for the Exynos 5400 to implement the NTN features. It's also funny how Google beats Samsung out of the gate with features like this when Samsung makes the chips that enable them. It make sense because there is a lot of team work that has to happen between the two, still funny though.
InReach has been garbage IMHO. Took it out multiple time maybe could get signal half time at my camp site with wide open sky, not to mention the horrible subscription fee. Would rather just pay when I use it.
Great video as usual. I do have a question if the pixel 9 or pixel 9 Pro has satellite connectivity, then we should be able to buy a 1 year plan -- a search and rescue Garmin plan to use with our SOS on the pixel 9. So don’t need a garmin in reach device. Is that correct?
As a ham radio operator I had a small laugh. I can throw my piece of wire up in a tree and broadcast my message thousands of miles away. Ham radio so much more simpler if you have an emergency
I’m a HAM operator. A US government powered PLB is the best option as it’s much more powerful than the Garmin, iPhone or Android. If you’ve broken your ankle or worse, you won’t be stringing antennas in slot canyons. Look up PLB (personal locator beacon), it uses NOAA LEO and Geostationary satellites.
@@pandabear-k7e ham radio isn't in the past anymore. Your phone weighs more than a ham radio. Check out this guy's radio ruclips.net/video/e1t1x3v-trU/видео.html
If you know how to use Ham radios it’s a great hobby and is very efficient in some situations. But most people don’t carry a ham radio when they go hiking or camping for a couple days.
The Pixel skin has always had it. Basically all Android skins have gesture navigation (which they got not long at all after the release of iPhone X) but most don't have a bar since it's not really necessary and gets in the way sometimes.
I think the 'Pill' navigation method was available in Android before the iPhone X was released. Though Google then refined it based on the iOS implementation.
I guess that when iPhone is saying "Try to get a clear view of the horizon" it wants you to point your phone vertically upwards. Maybe that influences connection possibility
would be very interesting if any company ever partners with starlink for SOS. much better connectivity and faster speeds, though i don't see it happening soon given how Musk has been acting recently
*If they can't get a GPS location then the devices should just send your last known location. would be better if both devices support both types of satellites.*
Have heard that if one has only ONE bar of cell service on iPhone, and are unable to successfully send a message, the iPhone won’t allow Satellite Messenger because it detects that you have cell service. True?
If you found yourself needing rescue, but you dont want to pay rescue fees, what would it be like if you had something like starlink. You buy insurance online then you go ahead and place your emergency sos on garmin. Would insurance cover you or would you have to pay rescue fees?
I don't think the Garmin insurance covers other devices. In the near future I'm going to do a video about insurance that covers you regardless of device. Stay tuned...
Good stuff! I noticed both cell phones were on the 5G network when they couldn't get a GPS location inside the canyon... I wonder if they could if they were on LTE instead? I often switch to LTE when 5G frustrates me in the Phoenix area (Verizon network). Thanks for the videos and cheers! Pete in Arizona - KI7LIL
Doesn't medical information to my friends or families on Pixel9 satellite SOS? seem like almost things are same in both device but the roadside and medical info are different in my view.
Doesn't appear that they work effectively if you are in a serious perilous situation. Hit or miss...good luck. Am surprised that the dedicated rescue/distress device, Garmin, functions so poorly.
"hundreds of feet", "thousands of feet" abive the earth. Technically toure right but at the same time tou wrote the km on the screen. Saying kilometers would make more sense than feet.
@@mapl3mage they have the antennas for it, but the feature isn't activated. Recent code shows that it's likely to come in the next update or update just after that.
Pixel is finally as fast as an iPhone!… from like 2019 I understand the advantages of a pixel over like a Samsung with the whole not voiding your warranty if unlock bootloader but man for that much money they really need to not put a rebadged exynos in the thing If I ever move to android it’ll probably be an oppo or xperia
@@hepticftw I've been using my Pixel 6 for three years and it hasn't felt slow yet so I don't know what gives you that opinion, unless you play demanding games on it.
You are actually stupid apple copies android more y'all finally did USBC which we had for ages y'all took till the iPhone 13 pro to get 120hz when android had that you guys took till iOS 18 to be able to move your apps around and the list goes on apple is trash and it's fanboys are stupid
Those satellites orbiting hundreds of feet from the surface sound scary 😂. (I know you meant kilometers or miles rather than feet)
Sorry, yea I'm so used to using feet from hiking up mountains...
Most underrated comment 😂
@@paulramsey2000 100 feet is about 30m so there are normal buildings larger than that
In any case, those LEO (Low Earth Orbit) satellites used for search and rescue are a minimum of 160km (524,000 feet) above earth's surface, but usually around 1,500 to 2,000km above earth's surface...
Key Satellite Systems for Search and Rescue:
1. COSPAS-SARSAT (LEOSAR + GEOSAR)
- LEOSAR provides better coverage for detecting and locating distress signals.
- GEOSAR provides real-time alerting but less precise location detection.
2. Galileo SAR Service
- Integrated into the Galileo satellite navigation system, it provides fast response time for search and rescue operations.
3. Iridium
- Provides global communication for satellite phones and can be used in emergency situations.
4. Inmarsat
- Used for maritime and aviation distress communications.
The wording slip-up at the beginning of this video is common among Yanks who refuse to join the 19th century (i.e. the 1875 'Treaty of the Metre') because they're still stuck in the dark ages... To be honest, I'm surprised the Septic Tank Yanks aren't still measuring in Pole or Perch, Furlongs, Hogsheads, Hundredweights, Pennyweight, Kilderkins and Pottles.
nah he's right. geostationary satellites are 35,786 kilometers (or 22,236 miles) above the earth.
I think the low orbit, non geo locked satellites could have an advantage because if you don‘t have a connection to a geo locked one from within the canyon and you are unable to move then that‘s pretty much it. But with the moving satellite it could at some point move right above you and allow you to send a message for brief time.
@@Terajoel imagine being crushed and needing to wait 2 hours under heavy rocks to maybe ask for help, while the pixel had better signal
@@alexandrumacovei7174did you even watch the video?😂 the pixel and iphone both had no connection inside the canyon. What I am saying is that with the pixel you will never have connection since the satellites are geo locked. But with the iphone you could at some point have a chance. And I think it would be much less than 2 hours unless you are really unlucky. Because those satellites move really fast.
@@Terajoel Actually, the iPhone clearly had difficulty finding signal in the second test while the android didn't struggle at all. I think you are the one that didn't watch the video.
@@willo1345 no that‘s exactly what I‘m saying. It may hav difficulties to find it sometimes but eventually it will since the satellite has move. But for the pixel it either has a connection or not.
if you can't connect to a geostationary satellite i would think there wouldn't be enough sky for the low earth orbit satellite to establish a connection to your phone before it drifts away
Wow! You're the first to test this. Thanks!
Man I hope Samsung uses a good network when they come out with Android 15. Great video! Interested to see what Garmin comes out with next to compete.
Will existing phone models get the satellite update, or is it only with the new phones that release in the future?
I don't know but will share when I do.
@@Mike_v_E The are rumors or even ?beta? screenshots of S24 lineup getting this. But if course you never know for sure before you have it on your phone
@@Mike_v_E Most likely only newer models since they require special antennas, unless they have been putting these in their phones long before releasing the feature which is unlikely as it's an additional cost.
@@epender I believe it is built into the modems of the phones. The pixel 9 has the same modem as the S24, so I believe Samsung just needs to build an update
Really love the Annie’s Canyon hike. It’s short, but really cool!
As someone who likes to go hiking, satelite sos and messaging is a very appealing feature to have. So I guess when I'm upgrading my current phone I'm getting a pixel
@@cmdraljaz77 messaging via satellite will also be available with IOS soon. Samsung still has it in the works. It won’t be a google pixel only feature.
@@battery_wattage that's nice, but I'd pick Google pixel still rather than Samsung or apple because it can have an unlock bootloader allowing for many mods that I like
@@cmdraljaz77 I wish we could flash GrapheneOS and still keep the satellite SOS function. Of course it's not possible, but I'll never use a regular Pixel or Samsung with all that adware and spyware on it.
@@ramdas363 oh you can't..... What about just rooting it, would it still work then ?
But pixel doesn’t have messaging? Only Apple has free text using satellite? Correct?
For the iPhone, make sure you keep the phone in an upright position (not tilted to left/right) when testing for the best results. If it’s asking you move, it’s best to reposition yourself to face that way. I’ve found the most success with this.
Great video. A couple thoughts.
1. The Android phone asking you to calibrate your compass was hopefully a one time thing. If you were a normal Android user, you would have done this the first time you opened Google Maps app. Curious if I'm wrong on this. I don't know the Pixel 9 SOS app specifically.
2. Your test was fair but it neglects an advantage of the Garmin inReach Mini 2. You can clip that satellite communication device to your pack and send your message from your iPhone and appreciate nature while the inReach transmits to the satellite -- no pointing required.
I don’t know about you but I swear I have to recalibrate my compass constantly. Maybe I just needed a better phone though 😂
Calibration is kind of not a one time thing. It usually only requests to calibrate if it detects a lot of interference from other magnetic sources. It’s relatively uncommon though.
I have had Samsung phones for nearly a decade, I have to calibrate them EVERY single time I use navigation.
@@vsg24 I have a S22 and it only requires me to point it, and not the figure 8 movement.
Some new devices only require you to point the device and no more figure 8
Theoretically speaking, you could throw the inreach to a higher spot (maybe tied to a string) and have the antenna on a more favorable position and clnnect to it via bluetooth.. just another option when in desperate need
rope is so versatile and useful. thats just another thing it can be used for
I'd like to see a demonstration, doubt the Bluetooth reaches that far. Unless it's a really shallow canyon.
Great first test and comparison. Seems like Harmin has another year or two to really become competitive and your video on upcoming Garmin news, including the early posting of video and phone service, might demonstrate future directions. Thanks for the terrific insight.
Thank you for sharing your test comparison video. It is quite interesting that there is not much difference between GEO and LEO based service.
"hundreds and thousands of feet above the earth"
BRUH
Was about gonna say, tho I using the metric system, I know that planes fly at 30,000 feet, so those sattelites would be flying waaay to low🤣🤣🤣
@@winni2701 half a million feet is "waaay to low"?
@@NarendraMnr 0:07 unless there is something wrong with my ears, he didn't say thousands after the hundreds...
@@winni2701 then its even worse. i should've used double BRUH..
Props to the guy who measured the distance with his feet
0:13 Kilometres not Feet
Feet in America
@@Kingofwar02a starlink satellite is 550km high. In feet it's almost 2million.
@@MainInternetUser ~342 miles
It's a metaphor, stop being a nerd.
@@Boxersteavee giraffes not kilometres
I am disheartened to learn that activation of the SOS function on these devices first REQUIRES a GPS location. In contrast, the Garmin Mini gives me the option to send out a Preset Message before a GPS ‘lock’ has occurred. Since commercial SOS message response providers will attempt to establish a text dialog with the person who activated this emergency function, I would be happy to reply with the description of my location in the event that GPS service was unavailable for any reason. Even limited SOS messaging is better than none…
Yeah good point, it's not always the case that someone will be lost.
I wish Garmin would let you opt out of GPS quicker though. It take a while to get a fix and get that popup asking you if you want to send without location. A hack I found that seems to speed up my message sends is to mark a waypoint first, and then send right after. Seems to work quicker for whatever reason.
@@billruttan117 gps is powered by satellites, if you can't get a location from those satellites it's very unlikely you're going to be able to connect to a communication satellite as they'll be disrupted by many of the same factors
@@venykrid A GPS ‘fix’ requires simultaneous reception from at least three orbiting satellites, plus processing time. That time can be significant if system Almanac data must first be downloaded. In contrast, any two-way communicator only needs to ‘see’ one of its associated satellites to send off an emergency (SOS) message. My real point is that a satellite dependent emergency device should be as simple and robust as possible and not necessarily ‘inhibited’ by lack of position information from a different source.
I have used phones as primary GPS units for many years all over the world. They have never taken more than a few seconds (maybe a minute years ago with a very old phone) to find GPS location. My Inreach, OTOH, takes a really long time regularly... Phones have much larger processors etc and can do the GPS calcs incredibly quickly. GPS satellites are not going down short of a world-threatening crisis.
That’s Incredibly Awesome! Have a great new week! Thank You so much!
Fun fact, the spinner that you were talking about when sending the garmin message is actually called a throbber!
That's awesome! it will take some time before will arrive here in EU
@@m-faccin I’ve used the sos demo at France, I’m sure you could use actual sos
well, the emergency Satellite communication is already here for Apple devices. you an use it since 2022 in most of europe.
@@DerDoJo but I am an android user and I would like to stay with Android. Plus no emergency on iPhone in Bulgaria
@@m-faccin to my knowledge, it depends on the specific country since spectrum in the EEA and Europe mainly is regulated by local authorities like BAKOM, BNetzA and Ofcom.
Thank you for the answer, I didn't know that
Thanks!
WHOA big thank you!!!
Good video. Great Info! I've been planning to get either an Inreach or Zoleo but maybe I'll just upgrade my Pixel 8 to a Pixel 9
Excellent video mate. Very informative. I didn't even realise the pixel now has satellite comms.
I hope that Google expands the capability of the SOS function of the Pixel 9 to include conversational texts via satellite.
Sure they will at some point in the near future
@@garysanchezphotography I have an iPhone 14. When my cell data and WiFi went out in the storm, I was texting my friends via iMessage Satellite!
Fantastic testing and journalism, thanks!
Superb comparison, wonderful video, good job
Pretty good as far as android now that apple has had this for awhile now. Apple is also adding non emergency texting on ios18 and is available as a public beta right now. No need to carry a secondary device for emergencies anymore.
Great video, exactly what i was looking for
Super useful. Liked and subscribed!
i was going to say that in the first test the iPhone was faster than the pixel, if you measure from the time you press "try demo" to the time you receive the satellite message. but that's not really important. what matters is that the feature actually works!
Amazing test.
Always solid info.
Huge thanks!
Thank you!
Great test. Thank you.
Nice test! =)
It will be interesting how all of this will change when starlink to mobile comes online
And if we get an X phone it is rumors to get unlimited access
The pixel 7 and 8 us the Exynos 5300 modem which technically has NTN capability. It's interesting that Google waited for the Exynos 5400 to implement the NTN features. It's also funny how Google beats Samsung out of the gate with features like this when Samsung makes the chips that enable them. It make sense because there is a lot of team work that has to happen between the two, still funny though.
"compass accuracy: Low"
The eternal Android problem. My phone compass is always very sketchy
Thanks Chris!
Apple just announced with new software that you can text with satellite without any extra hardware. I can confirm ive used it on my iphone 15 pro max
I show it in the video
Awesome video as always. Would the Garmin GPS map 67i do better given the higher wattage of the transmitter?
Yes, overall the 67 or Messenger is probably the best bet for Iridium now
super helpful. thank you
Great review!! With SOS only messaging available, is Android 15 not SMS capable yet or is it based on phone or carrier?
Based on the carrier and pricing. There are some tech and organizational challenges in who/how to charge right now.
Invaluable!!
Any idea where the satellite antennas are on these phones? Are they on the very top or on the top of the screen similar to where the speaker is?
InReach has been garbage IMHO. Took it out multiple time maybe could get signal half time at my camp site with wide open sky, not to mention the horrible subscription fee. Would rather just pay when I use it.
AST Space Mobile to be another option soon, i believe they launch their first two satellites next week.
Great video as usual. I do have a question if the pixel 9 or pixel 9 Pro has satellite connectivity, then we should be able to buy a 1 year plan -- a search and rescue Garmin plan to use with our SOS on the pixel 9. So don’t need a garmin in reach device.
Is that correct?
Yup, you can purchase Garmin insurance for any device that uses Garmin Response. I confirmed this with Garmin.
As a ham radio operator I had a small laugh. I can throw my piece of wire up in a tree and broadcast my message thousands of miles away. Ham radio so much more simpler if you have an emergency
I really want to get into ham radio, can you send link to how to get started resource for beginner please thank you 😊
I’m a HAM operator. A US government powered PLB is the best option as it’s much more powerful than the Garmin, iPhone or Android. If you’ve broken your ankle or worse, you won’t be stringing antennas in slot canyons. Look up PLB (personal locator beacon), it uses NOAA LEO and Geostationary satellites.
@@pandabear-k7e ham radio isn't in the past anymore. Your phone weighs more than a ham radio. Check out this guy's radio ruclips.net/video/e1t1x3v-trU/видео.html
If you know how to use Ham radios it’s a great hobby and is very efficient in some situations. But most people don’t carry a ham radio when they go hiking or camping for a couple days.
@@yankeesusa1 I also like eating ham 😋
Having the swipe bar apple had for years is crazy
The Pixel skin has always had it. Basically all Android skins have gesture navigation (which they got not long at all after the release of iPhone X) but most don't have a bar since it's not really necessary and gets in the way sometimes.
I think the 'Pill' navigation method was available in Android before the iPhone X was released. Though Google then refined it based on the iOS implementation.
what case do you have on the iphone?
I guess that when iPhone is saying "Try to get a clear view of the horizon" it wants you to point your phone vertically upwards. Maybe that influences connection possibility
would be very interesting if any company ever partners with starlink for SOS. much better connectivity and faster speeds, though i don't see it happening soon given how Musk has been acting recently
You should also mention that with iOS 18 the iPhone will also be able to send non-emergency messages via satellite
I did its in the video
@@Hikingguy yes sorry I missed that
*If they can't get a GPS location then the devices should just send your last known location. would be better if both devices support both types of satellites.*
Google is working for messages using satellite using Google messages app but still to come or not come depending on Google
I saw the Pixel 9 at Bestbuy, but it didn't have "Satellite SOS" in the menu. Could you let me know where you bought yours?
It's in Android 15 and Pixel 9 orig had 14, that might be it
Is it a Beta version? It seems Android 15 is not yet offically available
Any phones that can do satelite calling yet like the year old huawei?
This is interesting!
Have heard that if one has only ONE bar of cell service on iPhone, and are unable to successfully send a message, the iPhone won’t allow Satellite Messenger because it detects that you have cell service. True?
You just have to hit "send as SMS" on the failed text and it goes through with one bar - problem is that it's trying to send iMessage via data
For the pixel/android, is there something analogous to iphone "find my phone" that allows one to send non-emergency locations to a 3rd party?
Not now but when Starlink Direct to Device happens shortly there will be for T-Mobile subscribers
@Hikingguy thanks- i was actually thinking of how, in 2022, some iphone 14 users found a way to share satellite location through 'find my phone.'
If you found yourself needing rescue, but you dont want to pay rescue fees, what would it be like if you had something like starlink. You buy insurance online then you go ahead and place your emergency sos on garmin. Would insurance cover you or would you have to pay rescue fees?
I don't think the Garmin insurance covers other devices. In the near future I'm going to do a video about insurance that covers you regardless of device. Stay tuned...
@@Covid-bv4hp what are rescue fees?
@@somnia3423 They come and rescue you via helicopter then charge you like 4000 dollars for the effort
Any updates on messaging re: Android 15?
Just SOS for now
@@Hikingguy Really hope they get SMS messaging (phone to phone) for Android 15 operable. It would be a game changer.
Would you replace your Inreach Mini2 with a phone?
Not me because I'm outdoors a lot, but if I was a casual hiker I'd seriously consider it.
Good stuff! I noticed both cell phones were on the 5G network when they couldn't get a GPS location inside the canyon... I wonder if they could if they were on LTE instead? I often switch to LTE when 5G frustrates me in the Phoenix area (Verizon network). Thanks for the videos and cheers! Pete in Arizona - KI7LIL
@@peterkunka2694 satellite connection works only without cell services.
Good point, will check it out on next test, thank you
Doesn't medical information to my friends or families on Pixel9 satellite SOS?
seem like almost things are same in both device but the roadside and medical info are different in my view.
ofc this feature is only available in the USA like many advertised Pixel features
nice!
0:07 seriously, 100s of feet?
Like 30 meters and above?
why test inside canyon if you need clear sight of sky?
Because you don't have the luxury of choosing where you need to hit SOS and I've used these in canyons (here) before successfully.
@@Hikingguy cool just interesting the tool requires a certain use case
Thanks for this video brother
Looks like my Iphone works, thanks.
Doesn't appear that they work effectively if you are in a serious perilous situation. Hit or miss...good luck. Am surprised that the dedicated rescue/distress device, Garmin, functions so poorly.
I'm guessing feet=miles
It is already available in the EU, check the video at 8:17
Bullitt went bankrupt and another company took them over. Not sure I'd bet on it long term atm.
How do you get that app?
Жалко, что в России такое не работает(
my country no mountain 😂
Brightness on the iphone is just insane.
Hope Samsung does it next
Before using SOS , your phone must have battery , needy in survival.
"hundreds of feet", "thousands of feet" abive the earth. Technically toure right but at the same time tou wrote the km on the screen. Saying kilometers would make more sense than feet.
I think its more than hundreds and thousands of feet
The s25 ultra needs crash detection and emergency satellite
Didn't Samsung announce that the S24 would have emergency satellite connectivity? I wonder what happened.
@@mapl3mage they have the antennas for it, but the feature isn't activated.
Recent code shows that it's likely to come in the next update or update just after that.
I believe the Pixel 7 and 8 series are getting Satellite SOS as well.
@@NickBEADG they don’t have the necessary hardware, it’s a different type of antenna.
I believe you have no clue as to what you are saying. See: other comment.
@@BruceLeeRoy26 that have a modem capable of satellite messaging...
@@wogfun looks looks you two don't know what you're talking about. See My other comment to the other guy
@@NickBEADG satcom engineer here lol how are you going to mod/demod something you can’t receive? 😂😂
just got 9 pro xl and here in Italy satellite are not available 😂🤡
Huawei from 2022 :
(NO SHOUTING) GREAT VIDEO! THANKS.
It’s an iPhone running android 0:47
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for Huawei you can actually call using satellites not just text
Not available where I am unfortunately
LOL using this
W
1414 km = 4,639,107.61 feet which I hate to say, is technically hundreds of feet
Aren’t messages sent via satellite anyway?
Pixel > iphone any day
Pixel is finally as fast as an iPhone!… from like 2019 I understand the advantages of a pixel over like a Samsung with the whole not voiding your warranty if unlock bootloader but man for that much money they really need to not put a rebadged exynos in the thing
If I ever move to android it’ll probably be an oppo or xperia
@@hepticftw I've been using my Pixel 6 for three years and it hasn't felt slow yet so I don't know what gives you that opinion, unless you play demanding games on it.
@@epender They’re referring to benchmark scores which show the pixel 9 series getting similar scores to the iPhone 12
@byzaha1238 brute speed is very different from user experience
Oh ok thats why they made it look much like an Iphone
Android will never do until apple does😂😂
You are actually stupid apple copies android more y'all finally did USBC which we had for ages y'all took till the iPhone 13 pro to get 120hz when android had that you guys took till iOS 18 to be able to move your apps around and the list goes on apple is trash and it's fanboys are stupid
@@rossenburg android phones introduce most features before apple, this is just one of the few they didnt, or did they?
Lol
Pixel 9 shiped with Android 14 not 15.
No shit Sherlock he's using a beta
now google copying apple wild
But better
@@ultra244 lol
@@ultra244 android mfs doing everything they can to defend hypocrisy 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@BlackGokuSolos they been copying eachother since forever now, and imagine doing phone wars
@@ultra244better what ?
Hundreds or thousands of feet over the surface? So an airplane
Copycat
✍✍✍ Don't break an ankle in Canyon; iPhone won't help...
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Big thank you!!!