How this OCHKANATLAN World Quest DROPPED Natlan's BIGGEST Lorebombs yet..- Genshin Impact Theory

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  • Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024

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  • @GenshinBane
    @GenshinBane  2 дня назад +24

    If i had a dollar for everytime I said Waxaklahun Ubah Kan.....
    .
    Check out my video on the XBOX Wings here : ruclips.net/video/n7m6ITuWUUI/видео.html

    • @KAMISATO-AYATO_
      @KAMISATO-AYATO_ 14 часов назад +1

      Bro I have a question
      Is archons powerful than sovereign dragons??

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  13 часов назад +1

      Nope not at all... Waxaklahun Ubah Kan confirmed it in the latest quest

    • @KAMISATO-AYATO_
      @KAMISATO-AYATO_ 9 часов назад

      @GenshinBane yeahh ofc, well bro I am explaining this to Ei glazzers but they keep saying that dragons are used to say like this means glazing their own self
      What should I do I given them proofs but still they are saying nah they are not (not powerful than archons) when it's already confirmed that sovereign dragons are stronger than archons,
      literally they mad me so angry that I just replied ok to them and stopped explaining

    • @KAMISATO-AYATO_
      @KAMISATO-AYATO_ 9 часов назад

      @@GenshinBane btw thanks for replying I wasn't expecting but you did give me reply 🥰 now I'm more sure that sovereign dragons are powerful than these creatures who live under one of phanes shade 😅

    • @agentese1285
      @agentese1285 Час назад

      Acredito que a marionete e a Musou No Hitotachi ainda podem fazer cosquinha no soberano mais fraco, ​@@KAMISATO-AYATO_

  • @ronnieketchum1241
    @ronnieketchum1241 2 дня назад +53

    Meanwhile in all of this, Xbalanque is just a Peak Icon.

  • @Chariotuber
    @Chariotuber 2 дня назад +54

    literally just finished this quest and went looking for a video to explain everything, and this one uploaded only an hour ago was right here! you explained everything so well and my mind is actually blown

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  2 дня назад +3

      Thats so cool! Im glad it helped!!

  • @ronnieketchum1241
    @ronnieketchum1241 2 дня назад +40

    Every main NPC from the main world Quests in that tribe is a dead person who belonged to the team.
    So ALL of them is our Wuk boi.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  2 дня назад +12

      Goddamn it Waxaklahun Ubah Kan

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 2 дня назад +3

      The Mastermind behind it all

    • @ExiaAvalancheMkII
      @ExiaAvalancheMkII 13 часов назад

      So Bona is just that Wux guy in disguise

    • @ronnieketchum1241
      @ronnieketchum1241 12 часов назад

      @@ExiaAvalancheMkII No. She's not.
      Bona was a girl. The person we see is a random girl from Flower-feather. And she got the Bona persona because Ochkan/Cocuik implanted that in her.

  • @lathamtk
    @lathamtk 2 дня назад +31

    6:39 That is Waux Ub-kan talking to us in our mind. Every time you see that golden dialogue pop-up it is WUK talking to the traveler. He is guiding us to both pieces of the entrity and to places linked to dragonkind and to himself.
    I don't think little buddy is the chosen of dragons. We, as the traveller, are. Little buddy is just an aspirant, a possible next reincarnation of the Pyro Sovereign Xiuhcoatl. There have been many dragons like little buddy marked with the Fire Lord's Blessing, but none have turned into the next Pyro Dragon Sovereign for various reasons. Some are killed before they reach maturity by people of Natlan, others when they reach maturity go mad and become very agressive (the qucosaur we can fight ever since 5.0 for ascension mats) and attack humans on sight, etc.
    Also, when WUK was talking to our Little Buddy, that was happening in the past. The very same mural he is standing in front of, is destroyed in current day. That means that WUK had Little Buddy with him, and most likely sealed him for us to find at the very beginning of Natlan. He was also speaking to us (the traveller), not to little buddy, when talking in front of the mural. WUK seems to know the future to a certain extent and is guiding us to all the places that have significance to dragonkind in Natlan, furthering the idea that we are the Chosen of Dragons, not little buddy.
    He is now waiting for us up at the crown of the vulcano that will be released in the future... probably 5.5 or 5.6?

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 2 дня назад +4

      You are correct

    • @acostureirinha
      @acostureirinha День назад +1

      Thank you for explaining this! I was so confused by this quest!! And WUK being the MOST WISE creating a son that has a dragon body to be living in the human world and let the poor one to be imprisoned by the dragons without helping them… I thought it was not a wise decision. Or he doesn’t have feelings for his son at all, and just decided to help Xbalanque when he saw a better chance on him? Did I understand correctly this part!? I am sorry to trouble you, but this quest is really confusing 😅

    • @raline46
      @raline46 День назад +2

      @@acostureirinhai don't understand the hyperfixation you have of "wise parent". if i remember correctly, people only said he's the most wise dragon. no one said he's the most wise parent. both can be correct. as usual, probably WUK has different perspective than us normal human, like how some genshin's archon have weird mindset. also, come on, it's not like the first time we saw morally grey hoyo characters........

    • @lathamtk
      @lathamtk День назад +3

      @@acostureirinha Waxaklahun Ubah Kan was a 100% purebred dragon (as far as we know) and a contemporary of Pyro Sovereign Xiuhcoatl who he stole Phlogiston from, and gave it to humans. Och-kan was a hybrid, he had a both dragon body and a human soul inside of him. We currently do not know who the mother was or if there even was a mother at all. Och-kan could have been a testtube baby made by magic or alchemy, or maybe WUK changed into human form and impregnated a human woman, or maybe even an angel/seelie. In the quest it is explained that WUK thought that the dragons lost the war against Celestia because their thinking was inflexible. Dragons only respected power, and would always submit & follow the strongest of their kind. Humans on the other hand were flexible, could hope & dream of a brighter future and had the courage to fight, even if they knew they'd die. So WUK set out to create a dragon/human hybrid to ensure the survival of the dragon species. That's how Och-kan was born. WUK wanted Och-kan to kill the Pyro Sovereign Xiuhcoatl and become the next Pyro Dragon Sovereign, but Xbalanque did it instead (with Och-kan's help, no less)
      During the time of Pyro Dragon Sovereign Xiuhcoatl’s reign, humans were treated like livestock, and used as ritual sacrifices and labor slaves. Since WUK left Och-kan in the hands of a human tribe where he grew up as a slave to real dragons and met Xbalanque and the other heroes of that time (Yupanqui, Lianca, and the twin siblings Ahpub and Ixquieh) and they went on to overthrow the dragons and Xbalanque slew Xiuhcoatl himself.
      After Xbalanque obtained the Pyro Authority and set up the rules for Natlan (Ode of Ressurection, and the Pilgrimage) he went into the Sacred Flame. Och-kan took over the role of Ruler of Natlan in Xbalanque’s stead. Och-kan REALLY hated the dragon part of himself and idolized Xbalanque, going so far as to think only Xbalanque was a True God and could truly defeat the dragons, celestia & the abyss once and for all.
      Och-kan’s love for humans and humanity (and above all, Xbalanque) drove him to commit many, many atrocities after he took over as the ruler of Ochkanatlan. He imprisoned the female dragon (Ixlel) in the depths and forced her to operate the ancient dragon mechanicsms on top of which Ochkanatlan was built. He forbade the humans of Natlan from worshipping The Night Kingdom & Yohualtecuhtin (who was a Seelie) and began a witchhunt against everything dragon-related. This went against the teachings of Xbalanque himself who preached coexistence of Dragons/Seelie/Humans. Not to mention sentencing all those humans to their deaths after they worked to build Ochkanatlan & excavate the dragon city underground).
      In 5.2 we learned that Waxaklahun Ubah Kan came to visit Och-kan, his son, to retrieve the Golden Entreaty, as WUK was disappointed with Och-kan’s decisions and no longer saw any future for him as the leader of Natlan. Och-kan told WUK he hid the Entreaty and wouldn’t give it back to him. WUK left empty-handed saying he’d come back only once more, when Och-kan was dead to reclaim his soul as he was part of a very important experiment.
      Soon after a scarlet-eyed youth appeared, gathered together a party of heroes (Sakkuk, the twins Atawallpa & Waskar, Manqu the craftsman and Yupanqui again) and stormed Och-kan’s Cinder City. Och-kan separated his mind from his body. His mind became Cocouik and entered the big Core of Chu’ulel to operate it, and his body was struck down (but not killed!) by the Scarlet-eyed youth into the depths below Ochkanatlan, where the abyss found it & corrupted it.
      The Scarlet-Eyed Youth became Natlan’s Second Pyro Archon and life went on… the story of Ochkanatlan picks up again, 10 years after Mavuika entered the Sacred Flame, just like Xbalanque did in the past. Bona’s father (Talka) and his friends (Copan, Titu, Legba, Liriwu) entered Ochkanatlan in hopes of finding a rumoured artifact that could once and for all drive away the Abyss from Natlan. An artifact like that never existed in the first place, and it was Waxaklahun Ubah Kan who spread rumors about it to the human tribes in hopes they’d venture into Ochkanatlan and most likely defeat Och-kan’s body and take his soul/mind out of the Core of Chu’ulel.
      Talka and his friends died, all except Liriwu presumably. Liriwu was also the person who provided Talka & co with blueprints to the Cinder City, much like Manqu did to the Scarlet-eyed youth’s party in the past… but Talka did succeed in freeing Cocouik from the core…
      Afterwards Bona entered Ochkanatlan in hopes of finding out what happened to her father, and came across Cocouik, but as Cocouik/Och-kan said “they didn’t manage to save her”.
      I assume Cocouik somehow preserved a part of her soul and that’s how we meet them, in the present. A girl from ~470 years in the past, and the untainted mind of Och-kan.
      As for Waxaklahun Ubah Kan - he gives off the impression of a cold, uncaring person. A scientist/alchemist at his core, who cares about results & survival of the dragon species through evolution, more than morals/ethics & feelings of others. He openly calls Och-kan an experiment and is disappointed by how ‘human’ Och-kan became in the end and how much he hated and rejected his dragon lineage.
      Waxaklahun Ubah Kan is also INTRICATELY linked to the whole history of Natlan, being the architect of a lot of important historical moments.
      He gave humanity Phlogiston, he has a half-dragon half-human son, he is linked to our Little Buddy who has the Flamelord’s blessing mark on his horns, he more than likely gave the Scarlet-Eyed Youth the plans to Ochkanatlan as Manqu, and as Liriwu gave Talka the very same plans so they could explore Ochkanatlan 490 years ago.
      Moreover, I believe he is both the present-day Manqu who we encounter who tells us to find the first Golden Entreaty in the ruins underneath Tequemecan Valley near the Children of the Echoes tribe.
      Lastly, I think he was also the girl (Chikya) with the limp leg, who helped us discover the floating islands above the People of the Springs!
      Hell, he might’ve also been that mysterious 1st Chief of the People of the Springs who just one day disappeared after settling the clan near the waters…
      He seems to know the future to a certain extent, or manipulates the history of Natlan (and the present!) to fit his designs.

  • @octavianmihairadu9536
    @octavianmihairadu9536 2 дня назад +38

    Waxaklahun Ubah Kan will become the new oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale meme

    • @acostureirinha
      @acostureirinha День назад +3

      Yes! And the dragon lady will be the next one in line! 😂

    • @blazeunderground122
      @blazeunderground122 День назад

      ​@@acostureirinhawhich Name is longer? From the Lord of the Night or Ixil😂

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  День назад +1

      I agree

  • @Kayessee
    @Kayessee День назад +5

    Flying around chasing the dragon was a lot of fun.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  День назад

      I agree hahaha

    • @ExiaAvalancheMkII
      @ExiaAvalancheMkII 13 часов назад +1

      Its actually a callback on the Mondstadt Archon Quest where we also fight Dvalin in the air

  • @justicefall6300
    @justicefall6300 2 дня назад +20

    If Little One actually becomes the next Pyro Dragon Sovereign, I will laugh my self into the next decade because I named my Little One Tim. The next Pyro Dragon Sovereign on my account might be named Tim.

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  День назад +2

      Lmaoooo that would be hilarious hahaha

    • @mynym4543
      @mynym4543 День назад +1

      Mine is called Dewdrop… (in my language it’s used to describe things that are small and cute)

    • @sopianwahyudi
      @sopianwahyudi 8 часов назад

      I named mine Plumprock. is it plump? yes. is it a rock-type? also yes. hence, Plumprock

    • @skyhawk__04
      @skyhawk__04 5 часов назад +2

      Well mine is ChonkyBoi 🤡 all hail the next Pyro sovereign ChonkyBoi/Tim/Dewdrop/Plumprock

    • @stove957
      @stove957 2 часа назад

      Named mine Chonk so the next dragon sovereign will be a chunky little guy named Chonk

  • @shrikarvardhan1972
    @shrikarvardhan1972 2 дня назад +10

    Can't wait for the next video which you promised about the wings of delicacies

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  2 дня назад

      Yesss as promised it's coming out soon!

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 2 дня назад

      This is a true BOMB

  • @JadeIsMellow
    @JadeIsMellow 2 дня назад +2

    Great video dude! I was pretty confused by the end of the quest, you summed it all up nicely

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  День назад +1

      Thank you! Glad it helped 😁

  • @plygem6927
    @plygem6927 День назад +3

    10:55 maybe thats why the Beast Adeptus from Chenyu Vale doesn't consider humans as part of "nature" too

    • @stove957
      @stove957 2 часа назад

      Yep, pretty sure it's already been said humans are not native to teyvat but this is just more proof to that

  • @Crysis2424
    @Crysis2424 2 дня назад +3

    Man i finished the Ochkanatlan WQ and was pretty confused lol. Loving all the videos on it, it has helped so much to understand!

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  День назад +1

      Awww glad it helped!!

    • @Crysis2424
      @Crysis2424 День назад +1

      @@GenshinBane Thanks, it really did! I love Genshin Lore but Natlan has been really confusing for me. There is a ton of history and lots of names that I struggle with. So all the genshin lore content creators have really made it so much more enjoyable for me. Thanks for all you do!

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  День назад +1

      @@Crysis2424 aww glad it helped! If u like theories and stuff u cud check out my other videos similar to these

    • @Crysis2424
      @Crysis2424 День назад

      @@GenshinBane I've watched about 10 of your videos so far and really enjoy them! Will continue to watch more

  • @EiMiko-77
    @EiMiko-77 2 дня назад +20

    It’s getting more and more interesting…hope in 5.3 we’ll get a lot lore drops ❤

  • @CunnyLover727
    @CunnyLover727 2 дня назад +7

    yeah what Manqu said when we first met him was complete bs, it was just to convince us to do the ritual, so flamelord's blessing was just given to little one and och kan and not anyone else because the sage tried to make och kan the next pyro dragon and now we know its the same for little one
    also we can turn into saurians so we're kinda like och kan when we do this, a human soul in a saurian's body so it makes sense the sage is at least talking about Traveler when he says "chosen of dragons"
    Edit: actually I think little one isnt the chosen of dragons, hes just a vessel, the body that will become next pyro dragon. And it makes sense since a human soul is way harder for the sage to obtain than a saurian and I guess the type of saurian doesnt matter too (I mean they all have a common ancestor, the dragons)

    • @acostureirinha
      @acostureirinha День назад +1

      I am afraid WUK manages to imprison us inside a dragon’s body and we became the next puro sovereign forcibly. Is it possible? Like in the ritual… 😮

    • @CunnyLover727
      @CunnyLover727 День назад +2

      @acostureirinha nah even a quest like that cant have that much consequences since its independent from Archon quests (there will not be Xiuhcoatl too, leaks also confirms Xiuhcoatl will not be here, (unless theres some plot twists I dont know about because I accidentally saw a few leaks while scrolling on youtube but I dont know anything else, I usually dont look at leaks, especially if its related to story or lore) or some reasons but I wont say anything in case you dont know about it)
      Even if it happens, we will find a way to go back to normal Traveler human form in the same quest
      I think we might be fighting him, but he doesnt seem aggressive or wanting to fight us, neither do we want that for now so I dont really know whats gonna happen in the quest

  • @JennLefrost
    @JennLefrost 2 дня назад +7

    Lumine and little one will merge like Vegeta and Goku to beat Frieza

  • @Mani-oc6cy
    @Mani-oc6cy 20 часов назад +2

    10:45
    but Scylla says humans were created by the primordial one...so maybe PO created them and THEN transported? idk

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  8 часов назад

      Hmmm maybe Scylla could be wrong? Or maybe even WUK is wrong who knows

    • @Mani-oc6cy
      @Mani-oc6cy 6 часов назад +1

      yea, tho scylla might not be wrong about his own history and species...he in particular never really lies

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  6 часов назад

      Thats true!

  • @ExiaAvalancheMkII
    @ExiaAvalancheMkII 13 часов назад +1

    So technically our little saurian buddy has the potential to evolve into something like Nuevelitte and Apep

  • @cottoncandyUwU420
    @cottoncandyUwU420 День назад

    9:02 seems like faking their own death is a dragon thing 😂😂

  • @mickeyway326
    @mickeyway326 2 дня назад +4

    About the npc’s having the same names as people from long ago, that relates to ancient names and how some people take on the name of ancient hero’s and important people. Also could just be they are descendants of those people given the same name

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  2 дня назад +5

      Hmmmm but they look the same too thats the problem

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 2 дня назад +4

      Nope, thats not the same.
      The Titu, Legba and Manqu we see in Present are all bit in the same situation as The Bona of Today (a doing of Och Kan) but in their Case its Waxaklahun Ubah Kan wearing one of his "Masques" to put us in the right path.
      Taking our saurian to Tollan

  • @inthenameofcontractlendmem983
    @inthenameofcontractlendmem983 2 дня назад +8

    I hope is the Dude is not plotting a breeding plan between Traveller and the Little One. Yikes.

  • @cris_p_bacon_69
    @cris_p_bacon_69 2 дня назад +7

    Hmm abyss Xiuhcoatl... Probably won't be a weekly boss in 5.3 right?

  • @taengiu
    @taengiu День назад

    bro no way Kevin "delivers" all the human to Teyvat
    or it's just Project Ark all over again

  • @AMWmyu00
    @AMWmyu00 День назад +1

    nahhhh
    We ain't having another Narzissenkreuz Saga Finale intertwining with Climax Archon Quest again right…

  • @エリシャジョウス
    @エリシャジョウス День назад +1

    I'll sub because how much I like how you pronounce Waxaklahun Ubah Kan

  • @lavena-v-
    @lavena-v- 2 дня назад +4

    Honkai Impact 3rd's project Ark anybody?

  • @kirittv
    @kirittv День назад +2

    Yeah Titu Legba and Manqu are confusing me 😂 unless they never died

  • @AMWmyu00
    @AMWmyu00 День назад

    there would be 2 supreme forces in Natlan
    -Mortal Archonhood established with Ronova's Blessing
    -Wax's Sovereignty Program
    what is the meaning of Evolution in Wax's vision tho? want to create a Natlanese Neuvillette?

  • @scelletonplays9044
    @scelletonplays9044 День назад +2

    By the way, aren't we the travellers just trying to make it so that the little one can handle the flame lord's blessing!? I thought that was the reason for ritual

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  День назад +1

      Thats what they say...but there could be an ulterior motive for wuk

  • @danaanna9281
    @danaanna9281 21 час назад

    It's not the baby tepetlisaurus that's the chosen one of the dragons, but the traveler.
    When we meet the baby tepetlisaurus, the adult tepetlisaurus says, “Chosen one of the dragons, hold out your hand”, which means he's talking to us.
    What's more, this is a flashback. In the scene where the baby tepetlisaurus is with the Sage, the mural on the back is intact. But in the quest, we realize that it has been destroyed.
    So this scene takes place before the baby tepetlisaurus is trapped in the phlogiston.
    For me, the Sage just sees him as the dragons' only hope and who, according to the Sage, should decide to destroy everything to recreate a nation where they will be the masters (for me, this is also what happened in Khaenri'ah where the king wanted to destroy the whole of Teyvat and everything linked to the Gods so that the pure-blooded men of his nation could create a new nation).
    What's more, I don't think it's possible for there to be a new sovereign dragon, since in my opinion, the sovereign dragon is still “alive” (undead but alive). In Archon's quest, we have the Abyss who creates an Abyssal sun, but I believe that the creation of a sun is only possible for the sovereign pyro or someone with his authority.
    So we might have to kill his body, which would make it possible to resolve the situation.
    This does not prevent the birth of descendants bearing the Flame, but until the sovereign dies, this “mark” is a handicap that destines the bearer to die young.

  • @Zodia195
    @Zodia195 23 часа назад

    Now the big question is, will the last part of the World Quest happen in 5.3 or 5.4 (I can't see it ending further than that, but I definitely could be wrong).
    This is probably my 2nd fav World Quest now after Remuria's.

  • @Tsukkiinnaart
    @Tsukkiinnaart День назад

    It's Waxaklahun Ubah Kan all along

  • @MyLegion01
    @MyLegion01 День назад

    Okklanatlan is the name

  • @rexlapis4726
    @rexlapis4726 8 часов назад

    how many times did you say Waxaklahun Ubah Kan😭😭😭ims your going crazy by now

  • @KAMISATO-AYATO_
    @KAMISATO-AYATO_ 9 часов назад +1

    Pyro sovereign faked his death to phanes or xbalanque? 🤔

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  8 часов назад +1

      Faked to phanes. Maybe faked to xbalanque too but thats not for sure

    • @KAMISATO-AYATO_
      @KAMISATO-AYATO_ 5 часов назад

      @GenshinBane I see or maybe xbalanque fought with another pyro sovereign I mean another dragon???

  • @skully2860
    @skully2860 День назад

    I got from the world quest that humans are actually already evolved dragons? Is this true?

  • @hilmahilma1671
    @hilmahilma1671 День назад +1

    🎉🎉

  • @purpled2992
    @purpled2992 2 дня назад +2

    Wish Genshin devs and team was a lil bit smart
    Instead of making all these amazing world quests in every single region feel like a side quests, they made it part of "archon" quest and put it into actual story of the game by filling every single patch from .0 to 0.9 or whatever patch, with these quests and end story of a nation and whole version with the usual archon quest they do.. not covering 3-4 patches at first with archon quests and all these world quests and the rest of the patches being mostly empty with quick events and stuff like that >_>

  • @nettedteeth
    @nettedteeth День назад +1

    Yippee!

  • @skygrass19
    @skygrass19 2 дня назад +1

    Really, your voice is just too easy to follow all the time. My mind gets knotted with all these lore and I need a good video explanation. Still, yours is my preference! Your accent feels very light 🤙

    • @GenshinBane
      @GenshinBane  День назад +1

      Hahhaa thanks!!! Thats very kind of u