I have a CR10 and my Z axis wasn't square at all. I installed a pair of metal stabilizer bars from Amazon and it's been perfect ever since. This makes a big difference if you're doing taller prints.
Thank you for uploading this video. Mine is already in pieces but I was stuck here didn’t know what to use to make it square. Aluminium foil is a great idea.
Hey Pete, I don't remember if I mentioned this but aluminum cans are awesome shim material as well. When I am using them on the bottom of extrusions to build height, I use a standard hand held hole punch to punch a nice hole for any screws to go through. I just leveled a 1000lb milling machine with these! Better than spending $100 on rolled steel shim foil. Thank you for the comment and I plan to get more things online soon. Currently doing a Ender 3 motherboard replacement to a BigTreeTech model ... AWESOME and the motors are silent! and they make a replacement plug in screen for the Ender 3 that is both touch screen and standard style! I opted for a larger one with bigger finger area so I had to print a holder but its really nice!
Hi and thank you for the compliment. If you thought that was good just wait until I finish this new series. It will be 4 episodes on the BASE FRAME ONLY! and then Series 2 will have episodes on the moving parts and calibration and then Series 3 will have a final build with electronics and calibrations. I have hit on a few overlooked accuracy flaws and I think you will find them helpful! Have a great day!
@@iamkaioken This is a beta video... tell me what you think please. More to come and this is for a select few to see. ruclips.net/video/PuipsiWJF1c/видео.html
@@3dmojo275 Is there a playlist for this series? My ender 3 prints well after i first adjust things and gets worse over time. After 3 days I have to rebuild and think this is my issue. My wheels on the z axis always has one spinning freely. I want to redo my entire build this weekend and your series seems to be perfect for this.
VERY well explained thank you. I’m going through this now with an Ender 3 Pro and realize I’m going to now have to tune my ADIMLab Gantry (CR-10 Clone).
Scott, Hi and thank you for the nice compliment. This is what makes me want to keep going. I just invested a bit to build a shop for this channel. I picked up a Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro, Anet A8, FLFun cross between A8 and CR10 plus two cheap CNC mills for future builds. Lots of new tech equipment and also machinists tools to really see whats going on with these kits we buy. Hopefully late July or early August something will start getting posted as my work ceases in a couple of weeks. Thanks again!
1:35 - Where did you buy the precision triangle square, how much did it cost? Great that you're explaining how to properly align and build the CNC. You should make more videos on it. Like how to build a mini precision CNC, many would be interested. I have an ender 3 v1 which I'm building now, I know that it requires proper skills to build and calibrate. Is it possible I could use the "L" shaped machinists precision square instead of the triangle one you're using? I can not find a precision large machinists triangle square. Thanks for this helpful video, make more of them. I'm going to use the ender 3 CNC to make precision PCB boards using low powered 25mW UV laser which will sensitize UV photoresist. Possibly build my own mini-CNC using precision ground aluminum extrusion.
hey dude...thanks for sharing. My Z axis is never the same after auto home, making bed leveling impossible. After looking around on youtube I found my way here. This video made me realize the ender3 I put together in a hurry is probably outta whack, so I'm going to take it apart and do it right. I liked the use of tinfoil as a shim as well. Looking forward to checking out your channel for more tips.
Hi and thank you for the nice compliment. This is what makes me want to keep going. I just invested a bit to build a shop for this channel. I picked up a Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro, Anet A8, FLFun cross between A8 and CR10 plus two cheap CNC mills for future builds. Lots of new tech equipment and also machinists tools to really see whats going on with these kits we buy. Hopefully late July or early August something will start getting posted as my work ceases in a couple of weeks. Thanks again!
Hi Victor, I have perfected my Y bar and I will take it apart in a fast video to go over the adjustments. Trying to be better prepared and not too long. Thank you for he support
i have the first ender 3. Not a single cut on the aluminum extrusion was square. both sides were cut at a slight angle so i have zero square cuts. how do you fix that? ive had this problem since i got it and have not been able to understand why my prints all came out like shit. now that i know my entire ender kit was cut with a bad square i feel like im SOL.
Hey do you happen to have the thingiverse link or files for the hotend mount you showed in the video? I have the same one and it cracked when my nozzle hit the bed the other day. I'd rather print out just the part I need instead of a whole new part cooling setup, but I cant find the file for the mount since it was made over 2 years ago.
Good video, but those belt springs will NOT maintain constant tension. They actually increase oscillation and magnify it greatly the faster you print. Get rid of them and tension belts properly!! You will never see springs like that installed on industrial CNC or 3D printers. You would have to maintain super slow print speeds for them to not impact print quality.
Good to know. I actually tension mine correctly and I am making a Y axis video to cover this soon and show how easy tension can be fixed. Hopefully with the canted belts too. I just realized the X belt has a hard time staying centered due to the large threads on the bold angling the two bearings a bit.
I have had great luck with the belt springs and the extra tension provided. My prints are actually blowing me away with the Enders and the springs. Thank goodness it works well as I have a bunch of them. They come stock on a MonoPrice units and minus the great design lacking proper strength and support (more cheers for Creality using 2020, 2040 and 4040 extruded aluminum. I will keep watching to make sure it is working for me. Thank you and expect a lot more videos soon as I have six builds to do
I agree. These creality printers are fundementally flawed. I bought an ender 3 thinking it would work well out of the box.(2019 Sept.) O boy was I wrong. I spent an entire week trying to adjust the bare frame to make sure it's square. And although it's not 100%( the frame itself is not cut at 90deg), it's close enough to get a very accurate print. This is very sad that today one buys something and we have to go through this effort. But I look at it this way: I paid for a "course" to learn about 3D printing frame squaring and it came with a free printer. Ie one learned a lot. I think the ender 5 is the way to go for anybody. Sorry just one thing. You also need to check that the distance between the z extrusions are the same at the top and the bottom. If you tighten one screw more than the other it will go towards that direction. So that's how you adjust the distance between them.
Hi and thank you. I am almost ready to gear up to some serious builds. I have about 6 printers waiting to be videoed. I just helped my wife and my son's wife's brother build their Ender 3's on the same day. His Ender had a bowed Y Chasis extrusion which you couldn't do anything about so I told him to split the difference and his is working great. My wife is an AMAZING machine. I keep pushing the limits with it. It prints very smooth and accurate and I am printing strands (think a straw) horizontally and parallel with the X Axis and it prints perfect with no sagging in the strands that ARE NOT SUPPORTED! Amazing. I have a Ender 3 and a Ender 3 Pro to do a build with and some one minute quick tips soon. Thanks again and square EVERYTHING!
I'm assuming you're being sarcastic about buying a course to learn about squaring CNCs (such as a 3D printer) because I always wished there was a course as such but nothing exists on the internet, squaring and assembling precision CNCs is an art, skill and secret, 100% comparable like the pyramids, no one exactly knows how it was assembled, same goes for 99% of the people have no clue how precision CNCs are assembled, including many machinists. However your statement is 100% correct, every person who wants to learn precision machining should buy an Ender 3 and learn how to square it up, so much precision fundamentals would be learned.
I didn't want to get all of the code mixed in with this message. Let me know if this doesn't work for you. Thank you for watching. Working on a new set of videos what are a little faster to watch.
Hi, editing it as we speak ... is going up as a 4 part series and each is dedicated to the main components. Series 1, Episode 1 is a Short but needed introductory with a special equipment check, Episode 2 wll cover the base frame, Episode 3 the two Z posts and X Beam and Episode 4 the Joining of the two with precision. Thanks for asking and please subscribe if I missed it...
@@owca6666 This is a beta video... tell me what you think please. More to come and this is for a select few to see. ruclips.net/video/PuipsiWJF1c/видео.html
I have a cr10 clone was never able to get gantry level... none of the howto videos worked... i ended up printing pretty well for a few months, but yesterday i tried again to level since its off approx 1/4 inch and bed is leveled on a slant etc... anyway i musle it etc now it wont travel up and down i may have screwed up one of motors... anyway... i will see i can tear it all down and start from scratch...i think a beer can may be even better for shims btw... thanks
I hope this helps. I agree with a tear down and start over. Remember to drink the beer can (it may require two) as a fresh aluminum can is better than an old one ... lol. I always hate the complete tear down and rebuilds as well. You don't know how badly things are out of alignment until you send the first print code to the print head. You may want to try some incense, meditation and a prayer as well before you hit "print" on the next go round. Good luck! By the way, solid silicon mounts under the heat bed and level the X gantry to the bed as best as possible and then fine tune the four corners of the heat bed to the gantry at the front, back, left and right positions to the left and right of the gantry and you may be pleasantly pleased. I did add a silent board to mine with Marlin and a clone BL Touch and I am totally amazed at the quality and silence of the system. I run it almost 24/7 making products to sale for my wife.
Hi and thank you ... I am deep in a deep build video currently. I can't believe how badly my Z posts tilt and adjusting it has taken hours.... I will make a short version of the adjustment. If I didn't fix this my prints would lean to the left and to the front for every single layer which at a .4mm nozzle wouldn't take long to show lines. I will keep you posted!
I'm a machinist, so I'm going to throw mine on a mill and square these up. Great video!
i wish i could do that, my frame is SOOOO bad
Great video and a neat trick with the foil shims.
I have a CR10 and my Z axis wasn't square at all. I installed a pair of metal stabilizer bars from Amazon and it's been perfect ever since. This makes a big difference if you're doing taller prints.
Thank you for uploading this video. Mine is already in pieces but I was stuck here didn’t know what to use to make it square. Aluminium foil is a great idea.
Hey Pete, I don't remember if I mentioned this but aluminum cans are awesome shim material as well. When I am using them on the bottom of extrusions to build height, I use a standard hand held hole punch to punch a nice hole for any screws to go through. I just leveled a 1000lb milling machine with these! Better than spending $100 on rolled steel shim foil. Thank you for the comment and I plan to get more things online soon. Currently doing a Ender 3 motherboard replacement to a BigTreeTech model ... AWESOME and the motors are silent! and they make a replacement plug in screen for the Ender 3 that is both touch screen and standard style! I opted for a larger one with bigger finger area so I had to print a holder but its really nice!
VERY helpful...time to make my Ender3 even better. Thanks for walking us through, very easy to follow along.
Hi and thank you for the compliment. If you thought that was good just wait until I finish this new series. It will be 4 episodes on the BASE FRAME ONLY! and then Series 2 will have episodes on the moving parts and calibration and then Series 3 will have a final build with electronics and calibrations. I have hit on a few overlooked accuracy flaws and I think you will find them helpful! Have a great day!
@@3dmojo275 definitely looking forward to it. I've been meaning to get more tools, never a better time than now. Cheers!
@@iamkaioken This is a beta video... tell me what you think please. More to come and this is for a select few to see. ruclips.net/video/PuipsiWJF1c/видео.html
@@3dmojo275 Is there a playlist for this series? My ender 3 prints well after i first adjust things and gets worse over time. After 3 days I have to rebuild and think this is my issue. My wheels on the z axis always has one spinning freely. I want to redo my entire build this weekend and your series seems to be perfect for this.
VERY well explained thank you. I’m going through this now with an Ender 3 Pro and realize I’m going to now have to tune my ADIMLab Gantry (CR-10 Clone).
Scott, Hi and thank you for the nice compliment. This is what makes me want to keep going. I just invested a bit to build a shop for this channel. I picked up a Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro, Anet A8, FLFun cross between A8 and CR10 plus two cheap CNC mills for future builds. Lots of new tech equipment and also machinists tools to really see whats going on with these kits we buy. Hopefully late July or early August something will start getting posted as my work ceases in a couple of weeks. Thanks again!
I'll try this right away. 😁 Thanks!!
1:35 - Where did you buy the precision triangle square, how much did it cost? Great that you're explaining how to properly align and build the CNC. You should make more videos on it. Like how to build a mini precision CNC, many would be interested. I have an ender 3 v1 which I'm building now, I know that it requires proper skills to build and calibrate. Is it possible I could use the "L" shaped machinists precision square instead of the triangle one you're using? I can not find a precision large machinists triangle square. Thanks for this helpful video, make more of them. I'm going to use the ender 3 CNC to make precision PCB boards using low powered 25mW UV laser which will sensitize UV photoresist. Possibly build my own mini-CNC using precision ground aluminum extrusion.
hey dude...thanks for sharing. My Z axis is never the same after auto home, making bed leveling impossible. After looking around on youtube I found my way here. This video made me realize the ender3 I put together in a hurry is probably outta whack, so I'm going to take it apart and do it right. I liked the use of tinfoil as a shim as well. Looking forward to checking out your channel for more tips.
Hi and thank you for the nice compliment. This is what makes me want to keep going. I just invested a bit to build a shop for this channel. I picked up a Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro, Anet A8, FLFun cross between A8 and CR10 plus two cheap CNC mills for future builds. Lots of new tech equipment and also machinists tools to really see whats going on with these kits we buy. Hopefully late July or early August something will start getting posted as my work ceases in a couple of weeks. Thanks again!
This is excellent! You make a great point here. I was about to start the z brace mod, but may now hold off on it.
Hi Victor, I have perfected my Y bar and I will take it apart in a fast video to go over the adjustments. Trying to be better prepared and not too long. Thank you for he support
Would a combination square be enough for this or does it need to be something like what used in the video?
Very cool video. I got the subscribe button and the ring too... Don't make us wait too long 😁
After getting my Y axis perfect I am going to diassemble and make a faster walk through. Thanks for watching
i have the first ender 3. Not a single cut on the aluminum extrusion was square. both sides were cut at a slight angle so i have zero square cuts. how do you fix that? ive had this problem since i got it and have not been able to understand why my prints all came out like shit. now that i know my entire ender kit was cut with a bad square i feel like im SOL.
Hey do you happen to have the thingiverse link or files for the hotend mount you showed in the video? I have the same one and it cracked when my nozzle hit the bed the other day. I'd rather print out just the part I need instead of a whole new part cooling setup, but I cant find the file for the mount since it was made over 2 years ago.
mine was off by a good 1/4 inch . ended up sanding it down slowly on a solid wood benchtop
Y Axis video currently uploading and it will be finished in about an hour or two ... I hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching!
I though you were using a text to speech to begun with! Great vid!
Good video, but those belt springs will NOT maintain constant tension. They actually increase oscillation and magnify it greatly the faster you print. Get rid of them and tension belts properly!! You will never see springs like that installed on industrial CNC or 3D printers. You would have to maintain super slow print speeds for them to not impact print quality.
Good to know. I actually tension mine correctly and I am making a Y axis video to cover this soon and show how easy tension can be fixed. Hopefully with the canted belts too. I just realized the X belt has a hard time staying centered due to the large threads on the bold angling the two bearings a bit.
I have had great luck with the belt springs and the extra tension provided. My prints are actually blowing me away with the Enders and the springs. Thank goodness it works well as I have a bunch of them. They come stock on a MonoPrice units and minus the great design lacking proper strength and support (more cheers for Creality using 2020, 2040 and 4040 extruded aluminum. I will keep watching to make sure it is working for me. Thank you and expect a lot more videos soon as I have six builds to do
I agree. These creality printers are fundementally flawed. I bought an ender 3 thinking it would work well out of the box.(2019 Sept.) O boy was I wrong.
I spent an entire week trying to adjust the bare frame to make sure it's square. And although it's not 100%( the frame itself is not cut at 90deg), it's close enough to get a very accurate print.
This is very sad that today one buys something and we have to go through this effort.
But I look at it this way: I paid for a "course" to learn about 3D printing frame squaring and it came with a free printer. Ie one learned a lot.
I think the ender 5 is the way to go for anybody.
Sorry just one thing. You also need to check that the distance between the z extrusions are the same at the top and the bottom. If you tighten one screw more than the other it will go towards that direction. So that's how you adjust the distance between them.
That been said. Once everything is squared I still add the triangular Z braces just for sturdiness.
Hi and thank you. I am almost ready to gear up to some serious builds. I have about 6 printers waiting to be videoed. I just helped my wife and my son's wife's brother build their Ender 3's on the same day. His Ender had a bowed Y Chasis extrusion which you couldn't do anything about so I told him to split the difference and his is working great. My wife is an AMAZING machine. I keep pushing the limits with it. It prints very smooth and accurate and I am printing strands (think a straw) horizontally and parallel with the X Axis and it prints perfect with no sagging in the strands that ARE NOT SUPPORTED! Amazing. I have a Ender 3 and a Ender 3 Pro to do a build with and some one minute quick tips soon. Thanks again and square EVERYTHING!
I'm assuming you're being sarcastic about buying a course to learn about squaring CNCs (such as a 3D printer) because I always wished there was a course as such but nothing exists on the internet, squaring and assembling precision CNCs is an art, skill and secret, 100% comparable like the pyramids, no one exactly knows how it was assembled, same goes for 99% of the people have no clue how precision CNCs are assembled, including many machinists. However your statement is 100% correct, every person who wants to learn precision machining should buy an Ender 3 and learn how to square it up, so much precision fundamentals would be learned.
Where is the link to those wheels?
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071RMVK8G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I didn't want to get all of the code mixed in with this message. Let me know if this doesn't work for you. Thank you for watching. Working on a new set of videos what are a little faster to watch.
This is a beta video... tell me what you think please. More to come and this is for a select few to see. ruclips.net/video/PuipsiWJF1c/видео.html
Pls put part 2 up :)
Hi, editing it as we speak ... is going up as a 4 part series and each is dedicated to the main components. Series 1, Episode 1 is a Short but needed introductory with a special equipment check, Episode 2 wll cover the base frame, Episode 3 the two Z posts and X Beam and Episode 4 the Joining of the two with precision. Thanks for asking and please subscribe if I missed it...
Oh... and after that starts the Series 2 about the X Gantry precision, Y Gantry and so on
@@3dmojo275 awesome
@@owca6666 This is a beta video... tell me what you think please. More to come and this is for a select few to see. ruclips.net/video/PuipsiWJF1c/видео.html
I have a cr10 clone was never able to get gantry level... none of the howto videos worked... i ended up printing pretty well for a few months, but yesterday i tried again to level since its off approx 1/4 inch and bed is leveled on a slant etc... anyway i musle it etc now it wont travel up and down i may have screwed up one of motors... anyway... i will see i can tear it all down and start from scratch...i think a beer can may be even better for shims btw... thanks
I hope this helps. I agree with a tear down and start over. Remember to drink the beer can (it may require two) as a fresh aluminum can is better than an old one ... lol.
I always hate the complete tear down and rebuilds as well. You don't know how badly things are out of alignment until you send the first print code to the print head. You may want to try some incense, meditation and a prayer as well before you hit "print" on the next go round. Good luck!
By the way, solid silicon mounts under the heat bed and level the X gantry to the bed as best as possible and then fine tune the four corners of the heat bed to the gantry at the front, back, left and right positions to the left and right of the gantry and you may be pleasantly pleased. I did add a silent board to mine with Marlin and a clone BL Touch and I am totally amazed at the quality and silence of the system. I run it almost 24/7 making products to sale for my wife.
@@3dmojo275 Hi, i did a few other more simple things and it seems to be printing sooo much better ...thanks
Good Video.Thanks! Sub
Hi and thank you ... I am deep in a deep build video currently. I can't believe how badly my Z posts tilt and adjusting it has taken hours.... I will make a short version of the adjustment. If I didn't fix this my prints would lean to the left and to the front for every single layer which at a .4mm nozzle wouldn't take long to show lines. I will keep you posted!