@@SnowyOwl369 I don't think you can donate directly but if you keep the FerretSoftware stream open in a muted tab you'll contribute to their ad revenue, which is directly used to pay for the ferrets' needs! I think there's also an Amazon wishlist on the FerretSoftware Twitch page, if you'd rather do something more direct
That is awesome. But funny that the only thing he said was "Glad your pets are doing better". And you answer with the full backstory of why it is not a pet, and why you are doing what you are doing. 🤣
@@BliffleSplick I gues. But just a little funny that he gives the full backstory when someone was just making a nice comment. :) Would be like if you said to me hey nice hair i like brown hair. And i would be like it is actually not brown, but black. And the reason it is not brown is because i don't like that haircolor etc etc etc. Just funny to me haha
People say the most wild stuff and I start to appreciate the effort put in game NPCs more and more because even NPCs aren't as non reactive as actual humans
A lot of what he claims doesnt line up neatly in any kind of timeline or some of what he has claimed isnt exactly true. People have been critical of this to the extent of calling him a phony, he speaks with such confidence and from the position of a sort of professor. I dont blame them. for example, he said his dad was the one who did the murloc voice, which was total bullshit. I think if you spent all day infront of a camera youre going to get caught in a lie or two even if you dont realize your lying or arent purposefully doing it. That said, I dont want this guy, his shit jsut pops up in my feed non stop.
@@vincentstanton6726the murloc voice bit was an instance of him being misinformed with an old joke around the blizzard office of most weird stuff back then being his dad’s fault iirc, he corrected himself later when he found out the actual VA
less evading taxes and more not saying "look how nice i am with my rescue ferrets, buy my shit thats overpriced to hell and back so i can feed them or the cute one doesnt get dinner"
So thor thinks his money is better off with the government's budgets on military spending instead of just giving more to other charities and rescues? Sorry, but again, this is a massive thor L. He REALLY should get some financial advisors.
@@vernonalbayeros4719 Bro the military spending is the 4th largest area our government spends money on. It also has lead to nearly every scientific advancement. Not saying the government is better with your money, but please stop parroting that the US spends all of its money on the military when it does not.
@@Fette26it spends an insane amount on the military and the rest on nothing that matters. the grants that go to science are minuscule compared to the overall spending.
Legal Tax break. The worst part is when the Charity barely does anything and the money goes back to the company/owner. Meaning they keep their money along with Tax break.
@@patrickiamonfire965It's become one of the main money laundering (not actual laundering just kind of) for wealthy parents and their kids. It let's people move money to their kids with frequent tax consequences over longer periods with less risk. It's also a really nasty party of politics and political fundraising, more so on the left but only just. It's bad on all sides and Thor is being classy avoiding it.
Man, this comment section is wild. You know there's an option to not be an ass with the tax cuts and use the extra money to support other rescues, right? As it stands, thor's tax money is just going where everyone's elses is: military spending and some infrastructure.
@@imranmeco3393 yeah cause what does the government do besides build roads, highways, build transmission lines and substations and power lines, build power plants, build canals and boat locks, then maintain and operate that all while also subsidizing massive sections of the economy that Americans have gotten very comfy living with, for example the massive subsides for the fossil fuel industry since basically forever ago. Even if you cut regulations and military out of the good that the government does, you are actively denying reality to suggest that the government doesn't do anything. Over taxation is a problem. So is committing crimes and using loopholes to pay less taxes. Both can be true.
@@vernonalbayeros4719 there's always the option, but how many rich people do you really think are donating, and how much? It's way fewer than you'd seem to think, and man, for being worth millions or billions you'd think they'd give more if they gave a shit and weren't just aiming for a tax write off. If what you suggest is true then charities and rescues wouldn't be dirt poor and doing anything they can to save a buck, but it's very clear that even higher profile ones aren't well funded.
Tax breaks for a good charity, sure, but as Thor said, most "charities" aren't good charities, they're business in disguise. He's just eliminated any doubt, from individuals to the tax system, that he's abusing the charity moniker.
@@JustAGuyWithThoughtsNo, this is simply just a misunderstanding of charities. Charities are NON-PROFIT organizations, they are NOT a non-REVENUE organization. Charities need to make money SOMEHOW because donations ARE NOT enough. Giving them secondary business and allowing business to give back to the community for lower taxes IS THE IDEA. You just watched Thor Lastname go “So I could have had a private company AND a charity that would have done good, but I don’t like the idea of making money off a charity so I’m going to throw out the charity and keep my private business.” All that *actually* does is let them turn their charity into a FOR-PROFIT business that is not legally required to only use that money for charity purposes. He could spend ALL the money on personal luxuries because he’s not bound by a charity.
Conservation, rescue, and caring for animals.....this is how it's all supposed to look. Few people are encouraged to pursue their dreams of working with animals because they dont think they can help......you absolutely can. If you want to help, do so. Dont let boring and lazy people try to convince you "its not worth it"..they aren't doing anything, dont listen to them
Honestly, I am a very lazy person. I still have a dog we adopted from a shelter, who was about to be put down before we stepped in. He’s a pain sometimes, and certainly not any financial help. Still worth having him. He’s the best big buddy in all of ever.
Gross? Depends on your perspective on taxation. (no step on snek flag slowly rises in background to the sound of an out of key recorder performance of the American anthem)
@@GaussianEntity yeah I'm sure that if people thought the ferrets surrounded by toys and affection and food they don't have to scrounge for were pets that would be catastrophic.
@@parko246 The thing is, people start acting weird if they think animals are pets. They can demand more videos, ask about things, etc. Stating it's part of an animal sanctuary cuts all of that off real quick.
Nobody knows it’s because he wants to seem like a noble good man but in reality, it’s just silly to give the government extra money. This seems to be the only L take from Thor.
This is such a great idea for animal shelters everywhere. Most of them could really use the extra money from a yt or twitch. Its just a question of how to get enough views and donos which without a huge main twitch like thors could be a problem. Anyway, im a pretty introverted guy and gaining my respect isnt that easy but thor and what he does definitly did it.
I agree and disagree. Morals and beliefs? Good thing. But not willing to expand the sanctuary kinda sucks. Oh well everyone has their limits even Thor.
Where did he say he isn't willing to expand? He's planning a build to make the largest ferret sanctuary in the USA right now. He's expanding, just in a different way from the norm.
It's not cheating. It's keeping your money that you earned by helping those in need. By running or donating to the charity, you have proven you earned that money. You get to keep it because you benefit society far more than the government theft ever would.
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 what you seem to miss is that it is cheating because it isn't what was intended by the law. The reason many like Thor find it gross is because the rules and regs to define a charity are so lax that people claim they are making a charity without actually giving any benefit. Not to mention it leads to people who need services made by these charities to get snuffed out when the business falls on hard time because the business doesn't need the tax cut anymore. The initial intent of these tax reliefs were to encourage money to go into the charities that were pre established rather than a million charities giving out poor care because none of them get the funding the y need to run.
They're not always gonna use that cut for the pets or to better their charity. Greed is a thing, sometimes they just put that in their wallet for themselves.
@@MrLumberCorn Agree completely. All Thor accomplished here is running a taxed nonprofit, which is just weird. If the entity doesn't exist for the purpose of generating income, then it shouldn't be taxed. That's what 501c3's are for. Thor's hotdog rescue is the truest realization of that legal carveout. Any money it generates is given right back to the things the charity is aimed at. If he is planning on giving himself a salary to run the rescue, and his salary represents a majority of the entity's expenditures, that's when things get gross. The solution, then, is to not do that.
@@gnaskar lick boot harder, they waste our money, run a defecit, print more off to make up the difference and stick us with the inflation bill. No ones stopping you from overpaying taxes since apparently you hate being allowed to keep your own money
@@gnaskar This isn't shorting the government. They created legal entities specifically to incentivize this kind of behavior because it's worth more to society than anything they'd do with the money. All Thor is doing is declining to take the incentive.
@@gnaskar Pfft. They don't help where I live, I'm not losing. Where I am it's my neighbors who do public services for free, we all hunt or fish as rarely do trucks come out here with food, basically cut off from the rest of society. Hospitals are 6 hours away. The only thing I see taxes helping me with is heli rides and military defense. Your social benefits do not touch the very rural parts of the U.S.
OK, it's not a charity, and the ferrets are not pets. But they're cute, you help the ferrets, and you're being honest and playing by the rules with the government. And you can feel good about doing good without cheating...
The problem is Thor is just wrong and being a dick to people who run their own charities. Because he is literally starting with the base assumption that if you run say a cat shelter as a streamer and you donate your money to the shelter as a charity, you are incapable of just running the charity with that money, he is literally starting with the baseline of 'if you run a charity and donate to it, you are automatically lining your own pockets and doing bad things'. He skips over the fact that you can use the money in the charity to just run the charity, but no, he is starting with the position of 'these people only run charities to get tax cuts and steal from their own charity to line their pockets'
Yes but you’re not really screwing anyone if you get the extra money from tax evasion you can donate it to another charity instead of the irs just taking it. Just my two cents
I assume it’s run like a sanctuary. The ferrets were rescued out of necessity and it’s been determined they aren’t fit for a normal adoption so they’re made permanent residents. The distinction between pet and rescue may be necessary for his business but it makes sense to me. It happens with more exotic animals like monkeys and parrots.
So the gov create a law that, if you help a charity, you get tax cut; bad ppl use this as a "loophole" to dont pay taxes and its gross; but you, that runs it the proper way, and have a real charity with a good cause and management, dont use it to "dont look bad"... WTF, thats just... dumb?
Imagine you're Thor, who learnt most of his hacking working a government job protecting America. Imagine why he might not feel minimizing US tax revenue is a good move.
@@gnaskar sounds like corruption dont exist in America, good to know! And he shouldve said "i dont do it because taxes are important", instead of pointing that bad ppl abuse it.
Perspective, I guess. We do that exact thing and I wouldn't go back. Our sales increased, we are able to help more people, and the grubby hand of the government gets less. Win Win Win.
That greedy, greedy gubbermint hand that paves roads and highways, builds and generates and then delivers your electricity, builds and maintains canals, fuels parts of our economy- such as the fossil fuel industry- via huge subsidies that keep costs lower for consumers, then maintains it all? That one? And that's not to mention regulations since I have a feeling I already know your stance on those considering you types all parrot the same tired, debunked BS
@@LatinaCreamQueenlol shut up. They get taxed enough and they do things like charity and other things to get tax breaks . I don’t want my money going to some bum food stamp collector
I mean, it’s a room dedicated for the ferrets. I’m sure he doesn’t mind the smell being in that room, carpets can be replaced, a living thing gets care and their own space…win win.
Ferrets don't smell anymore than dogs or cats. They get their stink sacks removed young. Personally for me I find the scent of dog absolutely vile, I had to get rid of all the carpet, blankets, and couches in my house once my parent's dog died because the smell was caked into all the fabric and I wanted to puke. Nasty. I have 3 cats, had a few rats, and 2 ferrets when younger. Never had an issue with those smells.
It's gross because "some companies make charities that barely do anything just for the tax cut", not a good argument in my opinion. It's like not buying a lighter cuz "some people commit arson" lmao
You could have just looked at the extra money being a charity produces and put it back into the charity. Technically all you've done is avoid properly writing things off and letting the govt have more money.
Rescue and pet are not mutually exclusive. Most of my pets were rescues - a feral cat rescued from the bush was one of the best friends I ever had in my life; He was more loyal than most dogs, and *so* loving.
The irony of this (and i know first-hand) is that with a decent chunk of the IRS agents (especially if you are a ‘semi-public’ figure like him who already gets slightly above average scrutiny due to multiple revenue streams) is that they will start assuming the best from you and taking steps making sure you don’t get caught up in some stupid agent trying to impress his boss by fining as many people as possible - my old HS friend has stepped in several times to stop some BS because he had already vetted it and knew it looked weird because ‘they had several things they could have done to save money and work the system to their advantage - they must be doing something and trying to stay under the radar!”…………. “No, that is X and their Significant Other and they just aren’t douchebags - our Boss and their Boss are aware when we checked them in 20XX”😂
I don't think it's gross. You can either tacitly agree with how the government spends your tax dollars, OR if you feel tax dollars should be used elsewhere you can setup or donate to charity, which has the effect of tax dollars going somewhere you feel is more important. For example, you might disagree with military spending and believe that money could better go to ferret rescue. The tax laws are designed so that you CAN redirect your own income to things you think are more important.
I feel like this attitude simply feeds into letting our government get away with such spending in the first place. Because if you’re already avoiding putting tax money into the system, why would you spend time trying to help reform it? inb4 some Reddit mongoloid giving me boilerplate doomer responses about why reform is dumb.
The tax laws are set up such that people with money can avoid giving that money to the government. That's it. That's all. Nothing else. You, as an end user, of a system designed for people with much more wealth, can use it differently. But charity laws are designed for people with much more money than you.
I like having well-maintained roads, schools, parks, and other infrastructure. I like being in a system that provides a strong currency that enables trade. I like knowing that the things I consume aren't riddled with poison. These are things that we take for granted, and would not exist without taxes. Sure, they come with the unfortunate side effect of military spending and behavior that I don't agree with, but I'd rather have these things together than none of these things. The way we talk about taxes in the US is a problem. Holding politicians, political offices, and departments accountable is important, but this accountability needs to be made under the understanding that these offices are responsible for providing massive benefits to the people, and those benefits have a serious cost that is worth paying.
@@Dracomandriuthus You can start a non-profit for as low as $2,500. Anyone can take advantage of the tax system, you just need knowledge and a game plan.
That's called tax avoidance it's 100% legal and encouraged that is why there's tax law around it. Tax evasion is illegal and can sometimes be mixed together. The "gross" is usually from companies trying to hide this fact.
How? He just points out shitty things companies and businesses do. And he’s done what we all say we would do if we get to own our own business. I’ve said it 1000 times. “If I had a business I wouldn’t be taking advantage of people and would pay them fairly for good work”. He’s just doing what we all wish we could. It’s not like he’s going “guys today I went out and gave a homeless man 1000 dollars, stroke my ego”
I made a small paragraph over how doing good works and making investments on your own charity through your own company and making content through that as part of a business can really help boost your credentials. I am glad Pirate Software takes that approach. It's great.
If you are balding, shave your head (at least once). That way you can see the shape of your head and plan for the future if you continue balding. Otherwise understand that your hairy brothers support you.
I love ferrets there very smart and can even bond with you strongly some people say it feels like they know what you're thinking even very cute animals 😊
TBH kinda silly to intentionally pay more taxes than you should based on what you're doing. By not running the "charity" as an actual charity, you are effectively making a "charitable" contribution to the government.
Oh don’t worry I’m sure the government is using the extra money for some real charitable stuff like funding global war and raising the debt to infinity
@@AklyonX Not sure how you figure. Some paperwork is saved,, maybe, but they still have to do a bunch to write off all the related expenses, unless they are making a second "charitable" contribution to the government by not bothering.
Tbh I think it's unfair I think the common people deserve a tax relief doing something good and doing something else good and getting something out of it shouldn't be a bad thing unless your doing it with malicious intent life is difficult as it is....
I appreciate that sir but an idea maybe you could do that and give money to fans to help them possibly just a random idea but I enjoy your content anyways so do whatever you like lol
Yeah. It's like like rescues aren't pets, they're still pets even when rescued. The only time they're not pets is when they're wild animals, which these are not.
Under this logic you were a pet to your parents. If you want to nitpick that then I can nitpick that humans are classified under the Animal kingdom. Which means you were a pet, your children if you have any will be pets, all under your nitpicking. What classifies a pet is a person's view of them, unless you'd go to a zoo and call the animals there pets since they aren't wild animals either
@@randomisaac5959the reason children aren’t pets should be rather obvious to you. The ferrets are pets. Rescuing an animal doesn’t make them not a pet.
Okay, I get you don't want to do it like this.. But YOU COULD and there is nothing wrong with it functionally. Now if you were doing this AND funneling money from the charity to your own pockets instead of doing more charity work, you're running a racket and that's morally dubious AT BEST.
You might be surprised how many charities do that. I worked for the government for 10 years managing charity grants. Funds being funneled to enrich the people running it were so bad that my state created "laws" that said if you take government funds you can "only" funnel 25% of the money. They also capped executive compensation at 200k because they found people with no show jobs making 750k, at a charity... This is the short version, it was actually worse than this, involved kickbacks and sitting congressmen were charged with crimes. I'm all for the good work charities do, but there are just as many people getting rich by abusing the loopholes they create.
Honestly I don't know, I could feel my ghasts get flabbered from such a dumb statement. Like I understand the people that abuse those systems and line their own pockets, and if he just said that was gross, 100% agree. But I think he is just coming across like a jackanape with that position. Because he writes it in such a way to say 'you could do this in a good way, but obviously everyone who runs their own charity is automatically just lining their own pockets. So we don't do that to not line our own pockets'. But the fact that there are other options like using the tax cuts to be able to more effectively do charity and using the money the charity makes to do more good, but no, his wonky view is 'if you make your own charity you must be doing fraud or tax evasion and lining your pockets will ill gotten gains not doing charity'. Because if his position wasn't it isn't possible to not do that, why wouldn't he do that?
it's one of the massive exploits in the american system. I consider it gross, but I'm not american. However, i feel like if you're living in a country of thieves, being the only honest person is just you being dumb. As for why it's gross, I think it goes something like this: If you donate to a charity, you can deduct that from your taxes. You can then be the owner of that charity and pay yourself back a salary for running it, plus potential business expenses.
@@Wyzai You're not really allowed to donate your own money to your own charity, untaxed, if you pay it to yourself as a salaried employee of the charity. I doubt the government would complain either way since it's the same thing in the end anyways -- you'd just be paying all of that money in a higher income tax bracket. The best you can do to outright avoid taxes is buy things that you want under the auspices of the charity. This is illegal, though it's technically easier to do -- unless you're audited.
Imagine you're Thor, who learnt most of his hacking working a government job protecting America. Imagine why he might not feel minimizing US tax revenue is a good move.
Meh, personally have less faith in the government spending money well. I'd rather people set up more charities, assuming they do valuable work, and pay the government less tax. I'm fine with that. I'm not fine with just having money offshore or whatever and evading it that way.
The whole “to gvmt wastes all our money” schtick is so tired. So much of the waste we blame the government for is just 100% actually the fault of private enterprise, we just give them infinite passes for some reason.
@@MorrgenXI not sure why you apologize when you didn’t even give a reason? Is it maybe just a rhetorical strategy to make it appear like you made a good point or something? So that people walking by get the impression you had some cleaver rejoinder? No, surely not, that would be really lame
@@IRatchetI Ferrets are not wild animals like polecats. They are domesticated and super inbred in North America. Releasing them would be a death sentence.
@@kesorangutan6170 from the Britannica "The black-footed ferret (M. nigripes), of the North American plains, has a black mask across the eyes and brownish black markings on the feet and tail tip. It is an endangered species, owing to the loss of its main source of food, the prairie dog." I'm talking about my local species. Along with the common ferret being labeled as a sub species by some leading taxonomists. If it wasn't born in the wild it most likely wouldn't survive.
Honestly it just seems kinda silly not to take advantage of something like this. Especially if what he's doing is already considered a charitable act. I'd feel way less suspicious of this than I would about most charities where you have no idea where the money goes. Here it would just be a tax cut and you know the ferrets will be cared for. Sounds pretty win win to me. I doubt the government would collapse without Thor's tax dollars.
Lmao way worse than that even. “I’d rather give it to the government so they can send it to their cronies in Halliburton and Boeing to bomb a bunch of people in Yemen for literally no reason whatsoever”. Oh yeah, and the rest is going to pay interest on the national debt and to pay for the salaries of all the bureaucrats working in the system to keep the scheme going 💀 I’d much rather it actually go to a real charity/business operation who actually does good in the world.
@@DrakeWurrum It's still a wild take. Tax cut for charities exist for two reasons: to encourage charity work and to make more money available to it. Thor could be using more money for the ferrets without taking a financial hit by having it be a charity. All he's doing by paying taxes is giving money that could be going towards supporting more ferrets to the government. If he's not OK with making more profits off the charity, he can simply throw a bigger % into it so that he takes the same benefit at the end of the day.
So your other business is a business of ferrets doing ferret business?
a group of ferrets is called a business, so you could say he's in the business of business
@@TheAechBomb I believe that was the joke Mr(s) Taolan was making
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They work with Vincent Adultman at the business store.
This business isn't a charity
Comment:"Nice pet"
Thor:"Im not using them to evade taxes"
If there was one person who deserves tax cuts it would be Thor😂
😂 i dont know if everyone else does it i don't mind not paying taxes
But, can I still give your ferrets money?
@@SnowyOwl369 I don't think you can donate directly but if you keep the FerretSoftware stream open in a muted tab you'll contribute to their ad revenue, which is directly used to pay for the ferrets' needs! I think there's also an Amazon wishlist on the FerretSoftware Twitch page, if you'd rather do something more direct
It's on Twitch, so 'yes'. I found it by searching for "ferret software livestream". It was the top link.
A Buisiness does need money afterall.
donate to the twitch channel
@@guest6114 I second this. FerretSoftware on twitch. Try to do it on a PC with twitch bits to maximize the amount you give.
That is awesome.
But funny that the only thing he said was "Glad your pets are doing better".
And you answer with the full backstory of why it is not a pet, and why you are doing what you are doing. 🤣
Context makes things clearer
@@BliffleSplick I gues.
But just a little funny that he gives the full backstory when someone was just making a nice comment. :)
Would be like if you said to me hey nice hair i like brown hair.
And i would be like it is actually not brown, but black. And the reason it is not brown is because i don't like that haircolor etc etc etc.
Just funny to me haha
@@lucTKIt’s not funny it’s annoying because nothing he said matters at all.
@@BliffleSplickthey are his pets
I mean they are pets unless he plans to find homes for them. Doesn’t matter how he got them if he plans on keeping them then they are pets.
No matter how you call it, they look good, they are having fun and you take good care of them. I hope this continues and flourishes well!
Excuse me sir, how did you time travel?
They're a member, guys
Id still do what i can to reduce the pool of money that the government wastes.
Pretty much what @skullha66 said.
You should take the tax cut and use it to rescue more. It's only gross to use a charity to enrich yourself, but if you're not immoral with it...
It's crazy to me that i see people call thor a "grifter" the more i see of this guy the more flabbergasted i am someone told me that
People say the most wild stuff and I start to appreciate the effort put in game NPCs more and more because even NPCs aren't as non reactive as actual humans
It honestly bothers me he willingly pays more in taxes..... like have you seen how wasteful your own govt is or do you just not like having money????
@@dolanduk7946 Imagine being so stupid you think paying taxes is bad.
A lot of what he claims doesnt line up neatly in any kind of timeline or some of what he has claimed isnt exactly true. People have been critical of this to the extent of calling him a phony, he speaks with such confidence and from the position of a sort of professor. I dont blame them.
for example, he said his dad was the one who did the murloc voice, which was total bullshit.
I think if you spent all day infront of a camera youre going to get caught in a lie or two even if you dont realize your lying or arent purposefully doing it.
That said, I dont want this guy, his shit jsut pops up in my feed non stop.
@@vincentstanton6726the murloc voice bit was an instance of him being misinformed with an old joke around the blizzard office of most weird stuff back then being his dad’s fault iirc, he corrected himself later when he found out the actual VA
Well, "I don't use ferrets to evade taxes" wasn't what I was expecting from PS today.
less evading taxes and more not saying "look how nice i am with my rescue ferrets, buy my shit thats overpriced to hell and back so i can feed them or the cute one doesnt get dinner"
@pulsefel9210 are just assuming, or do you have any proof?
@@pulsefel9210huh? Besides the cheap game he made on steam, what else does PS sell?
@@BiTreeFrog he literally explained it in the short. if you need a realworld example, mcdonalds and their charity.
avoiding taxes =/ evading taxes
The reason Thor thinks it’s gross is the exact same reason why he thinks “exploit early exploit often” is gross. And I support him all the way
So thor thinks his money is better off with the government's budgets on military spending instead of just giving more to other charities and rescues? Sorry, but again, this is a massive thor L. He REALLY should get some financial advisors.
@@vernonalbayeros4719 😐
@@vernonalbayeros4719 Bro the military spending is the 4th largest area our government spends money on. It also has lead to nearly every scientific advancement. Not saying the government is better with your money, but please stop parroting that the US spends all of its money on the military when it does not.
@@Fette26it spends an insane amount on the military and the rest on nothing that matters. the grants that go to science are minuscule compared to the overall spending.
wow two people with bad opinions.
It's okay Thor. You can do some tax evasion as a treat.
Edit: I will never write a comment for new videos ever again. Don't look at replies.
Legal Tax break.
The worst part is when the Charity barely does anything and the money goes back to the company/owner. Meaning they keep their money along with Tax break.
@@patrickiamonfire965It's become one of the main money laundering (not actual laundering just kind of) for wealthy parents and their kids. It let's people move money to their kids with frequent tax consequences over longer periods with less risk. It's also a really nasty party of politics and political fundraising, more so on the left but only just.
It's bad on all sides and Thor is being classy avoiding it.
I am 99% sure that Thor can use the money better than the government.
Legal tax evasion *
This is part of what makes a real charitable action.
They are not pets, but friends and co-workers.
It's a family business! 😂
Another great episode of *My Goblin Lord Tech Streamer can't be this based!*
Stop supporting authoritarian policies.
Man, this comment section is wild. You know there's an option to not be an ass with the tax cuts and use the extra money to support other rescues, right? As it stands, thor's tax money is just going where everyone's elses is: military spending and some infrastructure.
>giving money to the government instead of using it yourself for something actually good
>based
@@imranmeco3393 yeah cause what does the government do besides build roads, highways, build transmission lines and substations and power lines, build power plants, build canals and boat locks, then maintain and operate that all while also subsidizing massive sections of the economy that Americans have gotten very comfy living with, for example the massive subsides for the fossil fuel industry since basically forever ago.
Even if you cut regulations and military out of the good that the government does, you are actively denying reality to suggest that the government doesn't do anything.
Over taxation is a problem. So is committing crimes and using loopholes to pay less taxes. Both can be true.
@@vernonalbayeros4719 there's always the option, but how many rich people do you really think are donating, and how much?
It's way fewer than you'd seem to think, and man, for being worth millions or billions you'd think they'd give more if they gave a shit and weren't just aiming for a tax write off. If what you suggest is true then charities and rescues wouldn't be dirt poor and doing anything they can to save a buck, but it's very clear that even higher profile ones aren't well funded.
Getting tax breaks from running a (good) charity doesn't seem like a bad thing to me, but its really cool to have a self-sustaining model!
It's more the intentions. And people who donate dont realise they're giving you more money than the charity you are running.
Tax breaks for a good charity, sure, but as Thor said, most "charities" aren't good charities, they're business in disguise. He's just eliminated any doubt, from individuals to the tax system, that he's abusing the charity moniker.
Avoiding getting robbed by the government mafia is always good!
@@IndigoKnight49 thats the problem, "charity" abuse is hella common... People automatically think charity is good wich is absolutaly not the case.
@@JustAGuyWithThoughtsNo, this is simply just a misunderstanding of charities. Charities are NON-PROFIT organizations, they are NOT a non-REVENUE organization.
Charities need to make money SOMEHOW because donations ARE NOT enough. Giving them secondary business and allowing business to give back to the community for lower taxes IS THE IDEA.
You just watched Thor Lastname go “So I could have had a private company AND a charity that would have done good, but I don’t like the idea of making money off a charity so I’m going to throw out the charity and keep my private business.”
All that *actually* does is let them turn their charity into a FOR-PROFIT business that is not legally required to only use that money for charity purposes. He could spend ALL the money on personal luxuries because he’s not bound by a charity.
Conservation, rescue, and caring for animals.....this is how it's all supposed to look.
Few people are encouraged to pursue their dreams of working with animals because they dont think they can help......you absolutely can.
If you want to help, do so. Dont let boring and lazy people try to convince you "its not worth it"..they aren't doing anything, dont listen to them
Honestly, I am a very lazy person.
I still have a dog we adopted from a shelter, who was about to be put down before we stepped in.
He’s a pain sometimes, and certainly not any financial help.
Still worth having him. He’s the best big buddy in all of ever.
and don t forget research for ferret medical treatement
@@ysbrann3059 or any species.
Gross? Depends on your perspective on taxation.
(no step on snek flag slowly rises in background to the sound of an out of key recorder performance of the American anthem)
*Bashes snek with a bat*
No scams allowed. Libertarianism is a scam.
Why make society better when you could instead buy three Bugattis instead of only two?
@@det_tf2 because the government is known for how well they spend our taxes
Been watching the ferret stream just as long as I've been watching you, been a blast! You're the best Thor! Shaye too!
Ok how do you ger these cute ferret emojis? 🤩
@@janpapai9205 join the membership
Is it only on twitch or is there also a yotube stream?
@@dylan4125 he streams on both at the same time. I usually watch twitch when I get home but at work I have the RUclips stream up
@@dylan4125 The ferret stream is Twitch only for the moment, but Thor is looking into streaming it on YT as well.
No way this guy is willingly paying tax to the government
Makes no sense. Weird
It's not gross, it's net.
Underrated comment. Because this is pure gold.
Absolutely genius.
This is so good! You win RUclips for today.
I.. I think you won?
That's really good
Those are not pets.
Those are employees.
It’s not a charity, it’s a family.
It's business... a group of farrets is called a business. Bad joke I know.
that's exactly what a business would say haha
Glad your pet project is doing better.
Love the ferrets
@@Super_Ninja_Kiwi and I love me some good and legal tax evasion
That distinction of not pets they're rescues just sounds so sanctimonious and unnecessary.
Sanctimonious is the word I was looking for. Thanks
@@brak1296 not sure if sarcasm or not but cheers lol
It's important so people don't get the wrong idea.
@@GaussianEntity yeah I'm sure that if people thought the ferrets surrounded by toys and affection and food they don't have to scrounge for were pets that would be catastrophic.
@@parko246 The thing is, people start acting weird if they think animals are pets. They can demand more videos, ask about things, etc. Stating it's part of an animal sanctuary cuts all of that off real quick.
Funfact: A group of ferrets is called a business or fesnyng.
Interesting, never heard the second term before!
How is giving less money to the government a bad thing 😂 as if they don’t take enough as is
I guess he doesn’t like money 😂
Nobody knows it’s because he wants to seem like a noble good man but in reality, it’s just silly to give the government extra money. This seems to be the only L take from Thor.
please give the ferrets a mini trampoline 😊
imagine if they had a whackamole board to dive into
@@PeterDanielBergwith little inflatable hammers that do gentle bonks :3
Thats a adorable idea, love it
Imagine how bad that place smells with all those ferrets
This is such a great idea for animal shelters everywhere. Most of them could really use the extra money from a yt or twitch. Its just a question of how to get enough views and donos which without a huge main twitch like thors could be a problem. Anyway, im a pretty introverted guy and gaining my respect isnt that easy but thor and what he does definitly did it.
Jonored
Theres a few that do.
So what I'm hearing is if the ferrets are doing well then the business is thriving?
I agree and disagree. Morals and beliefs? Good thing. But not willing to expand the sanctuary kinda sucks. Oh well everyone has their limits even Thor.
Where did he say he isn't willing to expand? He's planning a build to make the largest ferret sanctuary in the USA right now. He's expanding, just in a different way from the norm.
Just take the compliment. Not everything needs to be corrected.
Taking the moral high ground constantly changes a man. Treats everyone like children seemingly
Maybe if everyone wasn't wrong all the time there would be no correcting
@@jacobhorner5008 that’s dumb to say
So,you don't want to cheat the government?
It’s not the government you cheat it’s society
The gov cheats us
It isn't cheating the gov it's playing by the laws they made.
It's not cheating. It's keeping your money that you earned by helping those in need. By running or donating to the charity, you have proven you earned that money. You get to keep it because you benefit society far more than the government theft ever would.
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 what you seem to miss is that it is cheating because it isn't what was intended by the law. The reason many like Thor find it gross is because the rules and regs to define a charity are so lax that people claim they are making a charity without actually giving any benefit. Not to mention it leads to people who need services made by these charities to get snuffed out when the business falls on hard time because the business doesn't need the tax cut anymore. The initial intent of these tax reliefs were to encourage money to go into the charities that were pre established rather than a million charities giving out poor care because none of them get the funding the y need to run.
The rare L take from thor
Big fat L
Yeah but why not? Take the tax cut and get the hotdogs more toys/treats or rescue more? I'm confused about why it's an issue to take the cut?
They're not always gonna use that cut for the pets or to better their charity.
Greed is a thing, sometimes they just put that in their wallet for themselves.
@BigBossPW1974 and? It's still a choice and you CAN make the better one. Seems odd to chastise and entire entity when a few people do it poorly.
@@MrLumberCorn Agree completely. All Thor accomplished here is running a taxed nonprofit, which is just weird.
If the entity doesn't exist for the purpose of generating income, then it shouldn't be taxed. That's what 501c3's are for. Thor's hotdog rescue is the truest realization of that legal carveout. Any money it generates is given right back to the things the charity is aimed at.
If he is planning on giving himself a salary to run the rescue, and his salary represents a majority of the entity's expenditures, that's when things get gross. The solution, then, is to not do that.
@@bvoyelr Yeah... he's trading extra ferret resources to buy a tiny percentage of all the good and evil the government choses to spend the money on.
It's not charity.
It's a business.
A business of ferrets.
Gold
I dont get why its wrong. It seems like a win win scenario, you both make more money and the ferrets get more resources
Government services and infrastructure are necessary to keep businesses prosperous. Shorting the government costs everyone in the long term.
@@gnaskar lick boot harder, they waste our money, run a defecit, print more off to make up the difference and stick us with the inflation bill. No ones stopping you from overpaying taxes since apparently you hate being allowed to keep your own money
@@gnaskar the vast majority of government spending is not public good
@@gnaskar This isn't shorting the government. They created legal entities specifically to incentivize this kind of behavior because it's worth more to society than anything they'd do with the money. All Thor is doing is declining to take the incentive.
@@gnaskar Pfft. They don't help where I live, I'm not losing. Where I am it's my neighbors who do public services for free, we all hunt or fish as rarely do trucks come out here with food, basically cut off from the rest of society. Hospitals are 6 hours away. The only thing I see taxes helping me with is heli rides and military defense. Your social benefits do not touch the very rural parts of the U.S.
your ferrets are running shady side hustles 100%
OK, it's not a charity, and the ferrets are not pets. But they're cute, you help the ferrets, and you're being honest and playing by the rules with the government. And you can feel good about doing good without cheating...
It’s not cheating if it’s written into the tax code by the government.
Imagine thinking that playing by the literal rules is cheating
The problem is Thor is just wrong and being a dick to people who run their own charities. Because he is literally starting with the base assumption that if you run say a cat shelter as a streamer and you donate your money to the shelter as a charity, you are incapable of just running the charity with that money, he is literally starting with the baseline of 'if you run a charity and donate to it, you are automatically lining your own pockets and doing bad things'. He skips over the fact that you can use the money in the charity to just run the charity, but no, he is starting with the position of 'these people only run charities to get tax cuts and steal from their own charity to line their pockets'
Why would you not take advantage of the grey area? Honest question.
Yes but you’re not really screwing anyone if you get the extra money from tax evasion you can donate it to another charity instead of the irs just taking it. Just my two cents
But how will the ferrets get an endowment to pay for their college then?
So far, this is the only take I absolutely disagree with him on.
How gross of him
Right, they're not pets. Wink.
“They’re not pets they’re rescues”
Brother, unless you are fostering them to give to other homes. They are by definition, your pets.
@@eshanroveran7850 Yeah that confused me too.
I assume it’s run like a sanctuary. The ferrets were rescued out of necessity and it’s been determined they aren’t fit for a normal adoption so they’re made permanent residents. The distinction between pet and rescue may be necessary for his business but it makes sense to me. It happens with more exotic animals like monkeys and parrots.
When your fostering them they aren't your pets. Its like how when you foster a child they aren't your child until you adopt them.
A human child and a farrer are not the same lol @@evelynn1173
@@evelynn1173except he isn't fostering them
So the gov create a law that, if you help a charity, you get tax cut; bad ppl use this as a "loophole" to dont pay taxes and its gross; but you, that runs it the proper way, and have a real charity with a good cause and management, dont use it to "dont look bad"... WTF, thats just... dumb?
Imagine you're Thor, who learnt most of his hacking working a government job protecting America. Imagine why he might not feel minimizing US tax revenue is a good move.
@@gnaskar sounds like corruption dont exist in America, good to know! And he shouldve said "i dont do it because taxes are important", instead of pointing that bad ppl abuse it.
Perspective, I guess.
We do that exact thing and I wouldn't go back. Our sales increased, we are able to help more people, and the grubby hand of the government gets less.
Win Win Win.
That greedy, greedy gubbermint hand that paves roads and highways, builds and generates and then delivers your electricity, builds and maintains canals, fuels parts of our economy- such as the fossil fuel industry- via huge subsidies that keep costs lower for consumers, then maintains it all? That one?
And that's not to mention regulations since I have a feeling I already know your stance on those considering you types all parrot the same tired, debunked BS
@@cherriberri8373 Or we can just start taxing the rich.
@@LatinaCreamQueenlol shut up. They get taxed enough and they do things like charity and other things to get tax breaks . I don’t want my money going to some bum food stamp collector
isn't that why we call it "Gross income?"
*Ba dum tssssss* sorry I'll leave, I love the ferrets though!
Guarantee u with all those ferrets, that room absolutely reaks! Hard pass on ever owning or allowing one anywhere on my carpeting.
I mean, it’s a room dedicated for the ferrets. I’m sure he doesn’t mind the smell being in that room, carpets can be replaced, a living thing gets care and their own space…win win.
Ferrets don't smell anymore than dogs or cats. They get their stink sacks removed young. Personally for me I find the scent of dog absolutely vile, I had to get rid of all the carpet, blankets, and couches in my house once my parent's dog died because the smell was caked into all the fabric and I wanted to puke. Nasty. I have 3 cats, had a few rats, and 2 ferrets when younger. Never had an issue with those smells.
I'm just curious what you find gross about it? It's the way the system is, shouldn't you try to use it to your advantage?
It's gross because "some companies make charities that barely do anything just for the tax cut", not a good argument in my opinion. It's like not buying a lighter cuz "some people commit arson" lmao
"lazy, corrupt, warmongering bureaucrats who cant balance a budget know what to do with my money better than I do!"
- thor, apparently
I'll still call them pets. Being too picky here on the definition.
You could have just looked at the extra money being a charity produces and put it back into the charity. Technically all you've done is avoid properly writing things off and letting the govt have more money.
Rescue and pet are not mutually exclusive. Most of my pets were rescues - a feral cat rescued from the bush was one of the best friends I ever had in my life; He was more loyal than most dogs, and *so* loving.
He never misses a chance to correct someone or over-explain something.
all rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles
The irony of this (and i know first-hand) is that with a decent chunk of the IRS agents (especially if you are a ‘semi-public’ figure like him who already gets slightly above average scrutiny due to multiple revenue streams) is that they will start assuming the best from you and taking steps making sure you don’t get caught up in some stupid agent trying to impress his boss by fining as many people as possible - my old HS friend has stepped in several times to stop some BS because he had already vetted it and knew it looked weird because ‘they had several things they could have done to save money and work the system to their advantage - they must be doing something and trying to stay under the radar!”………….
“No, that is X and their Significant Other and they just aren’t douchebags - our Boss and their Boss are aware when we checked them in 20XX”😂
I don't think it's gross. You can either tacitly agree with how the government spends your tax dollars, OR if you feel tax dollars should be used elsewhere you can setup or donate to charity, which has the effect of tax dollars going somewhere you feel is more important.
For example, you might disagree with military spending and believe that money could better go to ferret rescue. The tax laws are designed so that you CAN redirect your own income to things you think are more important.
I feel like this attitude simply feeds into letting our government get away with such spending in the first place. Because if you’re already avoiding putting tax money into the system, why would you spend time trying to help reform it?
inb4 some Reddit mongoloid giving me boilerplate doomer responses about why reform is dumb.
Exactly.
The tax laws are set up such that people with money can avoid giving that money to the government.
That's it. That's all. Nothing else.
You, as an end user, of a system designed for people with much more wealth, can use it differently.
But charity laws are designed for people with much more money than you.
I like having well-maintained roads, schools, parks, and other infrastructure. I like being in a system that provides a strong currency that enables trade. I like knowing that the things I consume aren't riddled with poison. These are things that we take for granted, and would not exist without taxes. Sure, they come with the unfortunate side effect of military spending and behavior that I don't agree with, but I'd rather have these things together than none of these things.
The way we talk about taxes in the US is a problem. Holding politicians, political offices, and departments accountable is important, but this accountability needs to be made under the understanding that these offices are responsible for providing massive benefits to the people, and those benefits have a serious cost that is worth paying.
@@Dracomandriuthus You can start a non-profit for as low as $2,500. Anyone can take advantage of the tax system, you just need knowledge and a game plan.
That's called tax avoidance it's 100% legal and encouraged that is why there's tax law around it. Tax evasion is illegal and can sometimes be mixed together. The "gross" is usually from companies trying to hide this fact.
Thor has this weird need to aggressively remind you that he’s a good person in almost every single upload, almost feels like he has major skeletons
haha not wrong
How? He just points out shitty things companies and businesses do. And he’s done what we all say we would do if we get to own our own business. I’ve said it 1000 times. “If I had a business I wouldn’t be taking advantage of people and would pay them fairly for good work”. He’s just doing what we all wish we could. It’s not like he’s going “guys today I went out and gave a homeless man 1000 dollars, stroke my ego”
What's grosser though, abusing charity mechanics, or paying your taxes only for them to be spent hurting people in the ME?
I respect the choice. I personally don't see an issue with following the rules established by the gmen to avoid paying the gmen more than necessary.
I made a small paragraph over how doing good works and making investments on your own charity through your own company and making content through that as part of a business can really help boost your credentials. I am glad Pirate Software takes that approach. It's great.
Bro is my role model. (I'm balding though)
Thors advice for that is to just shave it off.
Trust the process, go for it!
If you are balding, shave your head (at least once). That way you can see the shape of your head and plan for the future if you continue balding.
Otherwise understand that your hairy brothers support you.
His a fascist for supporting higher taxes
I love ferrets there very smart and can even bond with you strongly some people say it feels like they know what you're thinking even very cute animals 😊
TBH kinda silly to intentionally pay more taxes than you should based on what you're doing.
By not running the "charity" as an actual charity, you are effectively making a "charitable" contribution to the government.
Oh don’t worry I’m sure the government is using the extra money for some real charitable stuff like funding global war and raising the debt to infinity
It also saves them a lot of paperwork.
@@AklyonX Not sure how you figure.
Some paperwork is saved,, maybe, but they still have to do a bunch to write off all the related expenses, unless they are making a second "charitable" contribution to the government by not bothering.
Tbh I think it's unfair I think the common people deserve a tax relief doing something good and doing something else good and getting something out of it shouldn't be a bad thing unless your doing it with malicious intent life is difficult as it is....
It's never gross to keep the governments habds out of your pockets. If it gets you more money to help the animals, you should do it.
someone tell him you don’t need to commit tax fraud to have a 501c3. not that he should have one, but i feel like there’s a key misunderstanding
I'm all for doing anything that results in less money for this corrupt government personally.
So.. they should make a charity. By not making a charity, they give more money to the government in taxes?
I appreciate that sir but an idea maybe you could do that and give money to fans to help them possibly just a random idea but I enjoy your content anyways so do whatever you like lol
"Tax evasion? No no no I want my rescue to be taxed MORE heavily!"
Thor is a true gamer, he even plays capitalism on Super Helldive difficulty
No donations...
Well, that just sounds like a challenge for the Goblins, if you ask me!
Doing good in the world WHILE keeping the government for spending my money to make the world worse? I see charity tax evasion as a win-win.
You should be writing it off the government is just gonna waste it
They're animals, which you are responsible for, feed, water, give attention to, gave names to.... That sounds like a pet?
Yeah. It's like like rescues aren't pets, they're still pets even when rescued. The only time they're not pets is when they're wild animals, which these are not.
Under this logic you were a pet to your parents. If you want to nitpick that then I can nitpick that humans are classified under the Animal kingdom. Which means you were a pet, your children if you have any will be pets, all under your nitpicking. What classifies a pet is a person's view of them, unless you'd go to a zoo and call the animals there pets since they aren't wild animals either
@@randomisaac5959the reason children aren’t pets should be rather obvious to you. The ferrets are pets. Rescuing an animal doesn’t make them not a pet.
Bro at least accept the compliment before correcting him so rude 😂
Okay, I get you don't want to do it like this.. But YOU COULD and there is nothing wrong with it functionally. Now if you were doing this AND funneling money from the charity to your own pockets instead of doing more charity work, you're running a racket and that's morally dubious AT BEST.
You might be surprised how many charities do that. I worked for the government for 10 years managing charity grants. Funds being funneled to enrich the people running it were so bad that my state created "laws" that said if you take government funds you can "only" funnel 25% of the money. They also capped executive compensation at 200k because they found people with no show jobs making 750k, at a charity...
This is the short version, it was actually worse than this, involved kickbacks and sitting congressmen were charged with crimes. I'm all for the good work charities do, but there are just as many people getting rich by abusing the loopholes they create.
A business supports a non-profit charity and gains profit
Genuinely asking: why’s that gross? Like Thor said, it does some good in the world, AND the government gets less tax money.
The only answer I can come up with is that like 75% of Thors audience are feds
Honestly I don't know, I could feel my ghasts get flabbered from such a dumb statement. Like I understand the people that abuse those systems and line their own pockets, and if he just said that was gross, 100% agree. But I think he is just coming across like a jackanape with that position. Because he writes it in such a way to say 'you could do this in a good way, but obviously everyone who runs their own charity is automatically just lining their own pockets. So we don't do that to not line our own pockets'. But the fact that there are other options like using the tax cuts to be able to more effectively do charity and using the money the charity makes to do more good, but no, his wonky view is 'if you make your own charity you must be doing fraud or tax evasion and lining your pockets will ill gotten gains not doing charity'. Because if his position wasn't it isn't possible to not do that, why wouldn't he do that?
it's one of the massive exploits in the american system. I consider it gross, but I'm not american. However, i feel like if you're living in a country of thieves, being the only honest person is just you being dumb.
As for why it's gross, I think it goes something like this: If you donate to a charity, you can deduct that from your taxes. You can then be the owner of that charity and pay yourself back a salary for running it, plus potential business expenses.
@@Wyzai You're not really allowed to donate your own money to your own charity, untaxed, if you pay it to yourself as a salaried employee of the charity. I doubt the government would complain either way since it's the same thing in the end anyways -- you'd just be paying all of that money in a higher income tax bracket.
The best you can do to outright avoid taxes is buy things that you want under the auspices of the charity. This is illegal, though it's technically easier to do -- unless you're audited.
Bro he was just being nice and complimenting them. Not the time to correct
Just call em pets bro jesus. colloquialisms are our language. You sound pretentious otherwise
Yeah this life lesson was a bit much
this coment is for the algorithm therefore supporting the ferrets a little bit hope they'll live a long happy life
so you find evading the government gross? that's pretty gross.
Congrats, you said "no you" but in a ever so slightly more mature way. Did that make you feel better sweetie?
@@cherriberri8373that’s your interpretation of what he said. Which says more about you than it does him.
@@cherriberri8373ur actually like a 10 year old with that goofy ah comment
@@jacobhorner5008 And you're 17 for saying ah not ass
Not giving money to the government is good, actually.
This is the only thing you've ever said that I totally disagree with. It's smart to keep more of your money.
Fr. Makes no sense at all. Morally it makes more sense to have the charity than not have it. Gross
It's a feature, not a bug
TLDR "making money and not letting the government who had no involvement in making it take a big chunk...eww gross, why would i do that" LOL, dork.
Imagine you're Thor, who learnt most of his hacking working a government job protecting America. Imagine why he might not feel minimizing US tax revenue is a good move.
wild how im cheering on a streamer for *not* opening a charity. 2024, what a year
Meh, personally have less faith in the government spending money well. I'd rather people set up more charities, assuming they do valuable work, and pay the government less tax. I'm fine with that.
I'm not fine with just having money offshore or whatever and evading it that way.
And he’s from Australia so even worse to give them more money 😂.
The way these fellas hobble around is so bloody cute. Love from Australia
But wouldn’t it make more sense then to give it to a government that spends it horribly?
The whole “to gvmt wastes all our money” schtick is so tired. So much of the waste we blame the government for is just 100% actually the fault of private enterprise, we just give them infinite passes for some reason.
@@colejackson3324 smoothed brain logic. Sorry sir
@@MorrgenXI not sure why you apologize when you didn’t even give a reason? Is it maybe just a rhetorical strategy to make it appear like you made a good point or something? So that people walking by get the impression you had some cleaver rejoinder? No, surely not, that would be really lame
@@MorrgenXIYou call the other guy's response smoothbrained yet nobody above 100IQ thinks what you posted here. Makes you wonder.
@@GaussianEntity nah that guy is a smooth brained. Makes no sense not to have it as a charity
Glad those ferrets are making money the right way. By selling fent.
If you're rescuing them and not releasing them later, they're pets.
There's nothing wrong with that of course but let's not beat around the bush.
@@IRatchetI Ferrets are not wild animals like polecats. They are domesticated and super inbred in North America. Releasing them would be a death sentence.
@@kesorangutan6170 actually ferrets are wild. But 99% of all the ones sold in the US are from 1 breeder.
@@IRatchetI Even with non-domesticated animals, if they lose the fear of humans that wild animals have, then it can't be released into the wild.
@@JboBakey Here's an excerpt from Britannica:
The common ferret (Mustela putorius furo) is a domesticated form of the European polecat.
@@kesorangutan6170 from the Britannica "The black-footed ferret (M. nigripes), of the North American plains, has a black mask across the eyes and brownish black markings on the feet and tail tip. It is an endangered species, owing to the loss of its main source of food, the prairie dog." I'm talking about my local species. Along with the common ferret being labeled as a sub species by some leading taxonomists. If it wasn't born in the wild it most likely wouldn't survive.
As an artist its fun watching your lines get straighter over time with mileage
the more i listen the more i realize that Thor isn't that smart at all
Hid house def smells so gross 😝 😫 😩 ferret shit is legit so gnarly 😂😂😂
I see not problem with saving on tax in every single way possible.
Sooo… they’re pets…? What am I missing here?
Honestly it just seems kinda silly not to take advantage of something like this. Especially if what he's doing is already considered a charitable act. I'd feel way less suspicious of this than I would about most charities where you have no idea where the money goes. Here it would just be a tax cut and you know the ferrets will be cared for.
Sounds pretty win win to me. I doubt the government would collapse without Thor's tax dollars.
But.. that just sounds like pets with extra steps.
"Gross, id rather give it to the government so that they can afford to do their own chairity work, but much more shittly and inefficiently"
Lmao way worse than that even.
“I’d rather give it to the government so they can send it to their cronies in Halliburton and Boeing to bomb a bunch of people in Yemen for literally no reason whatsoever”.
Oh yeah, and the rest is going to pay interest on the national debt and to pay for the salaries of all the bureaucrats working in the system to keep the scheme going 💀
I’d much rather it actually go to a real charity/business operation who actually does good in the world.
He spent way too much of his life in liberal California. He can't comprehend that individuals created welfare programs long before government.
I understand where Thor is coming from, but I also nah, imma do that.
I don't understand why using the actual tax rules to avoid taxes is not ok
Because legality is no substitution for morality.
@@DrakeWurrum Aye to use an extreme example, human slavery was once legal in most of the world.
@@DrakeWurrum It's still a wild take. Tax cut for charities exist for two reasons: to encourage charity work and to make more money available to it. Thor could be using more money for the ferrets without taking a financial hit by having it be a charity. All he's doing by paying taxes is giving money that could be going towards supporting more ferrets to the government. If he's not OK with making more profits off the charity, he can simply throw a bigger % into it so that he takes the same benefit at the end of the day.
@@DrakeWurrum ...and why is it moral to willingly pay more taxes? the government isn't exactly some savior of the people
@@vernonalbayeros4719 That's ostensibly correct, but in practice it just racketeering like everything else the wealthy engage in.
Tax evasion is the highest good you can achieve as an individual these days