DIY Diesel Polishing With The OUPES 1800W Power Station | Sailboat Story 220
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2022
- We polish dirty diesel fuel with a DIY polishing system and a solar powered Oupes 1800W power station. It takes a few tries to get the system running efficiently, but we figure it out in the end and save ourselves $600 by polishing over 100 gallons of contaminated diesel with our homemade fuel polisher.
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Ben, If you haven't already, I highly recommend that you get some fuel conditioner, and make sure it has bacteria-killing agents in it. No matter how much you "polish" that fuel, you can still have microbes in the fuel that will keep growing and make further contamination. I've seen this happen in diesel bulk tanks, and it can make an even more nasty mess than what you were pulling out. The conditioners will also help absorb any additional water that may not have filtered out. Diesel makes a huge "bed" for nasty microbes - you chemically want to eradicate that!!! 👍
Thanks for the thought. We've always used diesel treatments and conditioners for those reasons. The one we use is called Fuel Right. Really good stuff.
@@Sailboatstory I use fuel right. It’s well worth the money.
Hello, the bracket you have put on the boom is fine, but stainless bolts must not come into contact with aluminum, find some plastic washers to avoid corrosion. greetings IMIAK Denmark😊😊⚓️
There are dissimilar metals in contact in a variety of unavoidable places on boats. The rigging and spars are a common place for thus, through hulls another, and loads among the engine and powertrain. You're right that special steps should be taken one way or another to prevent corrosion. In this case the hardware is coated with a corrosion-inhibiting grease.
Fear not.
Damn.. the amount of crud in that fuel! No wonder the engine wasn't happy!
Indeed.Much of the dirt came from muddobber nests. The large volume of water in the tanks is still a mystery. My best guess is that the prior owner made a mistake when filling the water tank and used the diesel fill instead. There was FAR more water than what would come from condensation, so I have no idea really. It's clean now though. Clean, treated, inside an essentially brand new tank, and we also just installed an integrated polisher as well. Should be good to go, fuel-wise.
Neat job with the camera on the topping lift project. It really added to vidio.
Thanks very much.
nice new sunglasses! and refreshing to see someone make a proper bowline
lol my head just exploded with the tape measure guy. That's what she said.... but of course you knew that. :)
I remember having the thought of whether you might catch that when I set it up.
Here is *one* tip for others who battle with this kind of problem.
*If you can* proceed as follows:
1. Let the dirty fuel in the fuel tank settle for some time, so you have the dirt and the water in the bottom.
2. Get an empty container for clean fuel.
3. Start to filter the dirty fuel into the empty container. Start form the *surface,* gradually step by step lowering the intake as the surface sinks. (You can use the boats filter/water separator, so you will just need a pump.)
4. When you reach the dirt and the water, pump the rest for disposal.
5. Clean your tank and fuel lines.
6. Install new filter(s).
In case someone did not know, diesel bug is caused by water in the fuel. (Something to keep in mind.)
edit: Before someone complains: Yes I agree Bens system was just fine too.
I like it. A good general plan of attack.
Nice set up Ben. I am dealing with bad fuel up here in Alaska. I got a bad delivery of fuel. 150gallons that have water in them. I am about to build a polished here. I am so happy to see you guys getting back on the water. I am loving Alaska. I do however miss sailing from time to time. But I will live vicariously through you guys now. As I told you before. You and the family are always welcome to come up to Alaska for a visit at my Airbnb. Stay safe and fair winds.
Rob formerly SV Esprit Libre.
Glad you still get to have a taste of what slaving away in the heat to get boat projects done feels like through our videos. Yeah, diesel fuel can be problematic as it is, but it's especially bad when it comes from a supplier with water, crud or who knows what else in it. Thanks for the invite!
Those solid-state pumps are far better at pumping rather than sucking - swapping the pump to the inlet and you would have seen a whole different volume being discharged.
I've made a couple of these setups now and they work well. They are easy to integrate into the boat's main fuel systems which will also give you the option of powered bleeding and lift pump backup etc
The pump may work better on the other end of the system, generally speaking, but it likely would have clogged with the first big chunk of filth. That's the tricky bit concerning its location in the circuit.
@@Sailboatstory I've not used that exact pump, I use the Facet 26gph ones with a washable pre-filter/separator and a proper polishing filter on the outlet & then return to a clean container.
I also just polish just the reasonably clean fuel (when working from containers - I don't pickup from the bottom) and just dispose of the rest. Discarding a couple of gallons of diesel is far cheaper than keep replacing the filters!
If I fit them into a tank then I pickup from the bottom, below the normal pickup to keep the tank clean.
@@Sailboatstory the little inline filter attached to the pump is not helping the pump. Fuel has been filtered. No need for that filter.
@@phil29681 I'd wager that it's not hurting either.
So Ben, this last Wednesday I was driving on Rt. 16 GA. Iam a over the road driver.I looked in my mirror and saw this Toyota coming up on my left I looked down and thought that looked like Tambi funny thing was she was sleeping it looked like you were trying to give her a wet Willie lol isaw sail boat on your back window I blew my air horn but u ignored it and speed away that was my high light of the day hope toet you all one day been subscribed since the beginning
Keith, that's really cool to hear man. Wish we could have at least waved at you. Here's a late wave instead. 👋
Also I would have a third tank for the new fuel instead of sending it back into the dirty container drum
That tape measure dude looked like he would like to POLISH your DIRTY fuel. lol (I was looking in the description to find a link to the green diesel fuel pump and now I've been coerced to write that... ) Cheers
No comment.
That white knob at the top of that filter is a pump for priming the system. Unscrew it counter clockwise and pull it up. NEVER intall one of those filters in your boats fuel system, they are infamous for introducing air. The Racor 500 FG is a great filter for your size engine. Also, if that fuel in the drums has been sitting for a while, sacrifice the bottom 6 inches or so by not shoving the pick up hose all the way to the bottom and save yourself a lot of grief.
Yes, I figured that out. Pretty cool little priming pump built in. Never seen that before, but like you I would agree that I wouldn't personally use it on a primary fuel system as I was never able to fully eliminate a stream of bubbles entering the circuit.
Nice system, That should work well given enough time to circulate the drum until it's squeaky clean. I need to build one of those now.
Aside from the pains of learning the system and tweaking it to get it running smoothly, it worked like a charm.
Like the two-stage filter mentioned by others. Should be a permanent installation in the engine room. I think you have three fuel tanks if I recall. Tank #1 could be designated as your "day" tank that the engine runs on and has a Racor filter that it runs through again on the way to the engine. Tanks #2 & #3 could be your storage tanks where you pull fuel from through the polisher system to be pumped into tank#1. All filters should be identical to reduce filter element numbers being different and amount to carry on board but the first filter when polishing could be a different one that excels in water separation and element size. You did a great job with your set-up and the most important thing you did was the location of the fuel pump by placing so it was pulling the questionable fuel through the filters first. The topping lift was a good fix, tie a knot with two wraps around the bail for chaff reduction, it might be called an Anchor Hitch. Keep the stories coming.
😳Literally everything you've mentioned has been completed - even down to the double wrap on the bail.
the large filter you used with the bowl looks like a great add. Any alterations to the setup? Would you recommend the large bowl as a pre filter still?
I buy diesel pumps on eBay that will go down in the drum and they're only about $15 they run on 12 volts they push the fuel up rather than suck it
I think you where giving that small pump system a bit of a challenge with the amount of contaminant you had but once the fuel is cleaned it should work fine as a maintenance clean in future. Pro systems use four large filter's so the job gets done faster but for a one off and to keep the show on the road, if you run the pickup line through a y valve you could run through one filter then switch to the other when the first one clogs that you can change while the second filter is doing it's thing though I'm sure you're onto that🏴☠️
I'm on it. Stay tuned.
With the pump on top of the tank, you're having lots more head lift, so lower volume. If you had longer hoses and put the pump back BESIDE the tank, it would almost siphon the fuel through the filters with much left effort on the pump. Also, if you have a spare barrel, pick up the fuel from the top of one barrel and put the cleaned fuel in the other barrel. Once you get down to the water and sludge, stop pumping. Since water and biomes tend to settle out over time, let it do some of the work for you.
I know you don't want the polishing to take for ever but too much flow and the water won't separate in the filter.
That’s correct, however we’re still at less than half the flow/vacuum rate for the filters even with the faster pump.
You need a way more high volume pump (preferably a gear type, bigger filters, ect........)
The fuel filters I used have certain flow rates that have to be kept within spec in order for them to work properly. We were nearing the top-end of those rates with the new pump I fitted. A higher flow pump + larger volume filter certainly would have gotten the job done quicker though, which would have been a nice luxury.
If the flow rate is too high the water separator won't work well. (1/2 to 1 gallon a minute which is 30,-60 gallons per hour should work well) Those small pumps work better at the level or below the fuel tank. They don't suck up hill too well. What's the gpm and brand of that pulse pump. I'd put the polisher at the height of the middle of the fuel tank rather than sitting it on top.
This temporary filtration rig worked quite well for our purposes. The flow rate of both the initial pump and even the higher flow rate diesel pump was well below the filtration rate of the filter by a large margin.
Should do a mr funnel filter review someday too 🤔
We could do it. I have 2. We picked up come nasty diesel at Staniel Cay a few years back. There was basically a 1/4 cup of sandy, rusty, gritty stuff in the bottoms of several 5 gallon jugs. Filtered it through one of those filters and it seemed to do the job.
@@Sailboatstory same for me. I ended up with several gallons of watery nasty gunk from Bahamian fuel over the years down there using my mr funnel every single fill.
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I second what Guy H said. Also, why in the heck wouldn't you pump the filtered fuel into a clean container, at least for the initial passes through the polisher? It seems to me the way you are set up, you are just recirculating fuel back into the drum that still contains dirty fuel and through your filter needlessly and clogging your filter prematurely.
Read my reply to Guy H. With the pump on the inlet side, it would have been clogged within the first 5 seconds. I can't see why recirculating is any harder on the filter than not recirculating. Once the gunk is in the filter, it's in there, irregardless of where the output goes to. The fuel gets cleaner and cleaner whether it goes into the same container or a different one. Same amount of cleaning occurs either way. I suppose the bottom line is that the process worked and the fuel is now clean and water free. Always multiple ways to get the job done and this was mine.
@@Sailboatstory Hey, fair enough.
Are you not concerned about galvanic corrosion between your aluminum boom and those stainless steel bolts, washers, nuts, and bail? I know the boom will not (hopefully) be immersed in salt water, but you will get spray in that area, and the atmosphere itself is corrosive on the ocean. From what I have read, best practice is to isolate the two metals from each other with nylon or rubber washers and bushings.
Not concerned. Hundreds of places where dissimilar metals are in contact on a boat, many of which are far more problematic than the boom.
I didn't think you needed a topping lift when you have boom gallo to set your boom on, maybe you do
I do.
I would feel amazingly better if 'I' pumped the polished fuel into an empty barrel instead of recirculating into the same barrel.
To each their own. The end result was 100gal of clean diesel. Lots of ways to get there.
As some have mentioned a washable prefilter is needed, if you check my profile you will find my video on my DIY polisher and with a prefilter as mentioned
Perhaps not “needed”, as I got by fine without one, but I can certainly see the benefit in using one, especially in a situation with very dirty fuel. All in all, mine wasn’t all that dirty. Loads of water and big chunks of old muddobber nests were my main challenges. I like the idea of the pre-filter though.
@@Sailboatstory Not needed if you are happy to replace expensive fuel filters when they get clogged within minutes.
I hear your opinion, but it doesn’t seem to be entirely accurate, most certainly not across the board as the wording suggests. Mine ran for more than 96 hours and the filters still have so little gunk in them that I see no need to replace them yet. The overwhelming majority of gunk landed in the bowl and never made it to the filters.
the trouble i c here is that you are pumping back into the original container w/o actually completely cleaning that container. it would be better to siphon into a new barrel. but nice system anyway.
No trouble at all. Worked like a charm once I figured out the system.
Wouldn't it be better to push the fuel through the filter rather than pull it?
In my opinion and limited knowledge on the subject, I’d think not. I wouldn’t want all the funk and chunks going directly to the pump. Seems like a way to quickly clog or otherwise ruin the pump.
@@Sailboatstory these diesel pumps have a screen on them and anything smaller than the screen will go through the pump easily anything bigger will not be pulled through
If you had that much gunk in your arteries you would be in a world of trouble !
Oh man, if a person had 1/1,000,000 worth of that stuff in your arteries they’d be dead.
Ben trash the bottom 3-4 gal.....
I did. It was all water.
You are salvaging fuel not polishng per se. Start at the top of the tank and gradually pump good fuel to another barrel and when the bad stuff starts to appear, just stop and take the rest to recycle.
You are salvaging fuel not polishing per se. Start at the top of the tank and gradually pump good fuel to another barrel and when the bad stuff starts to appear, just stop and take the rest to recycle.
The job has long been done. That’s the odd part about advice in the comments section. Even the few bits of advice that would actually be helpful are typically weeks late by the time the video posts. Just one of the odd parts of creating videos. No offense, just sharing that recurring conundrum we experience weekly.
@@Sailboatstory that's the truth. Since you are done, you can incorporate the pieces of this rig into the boat and use it as a continuous polisher so when you have plenty of power, like motoring, you can flip it on and polish on the go. This will help keep the fuel fresh and also alert you to problems before they clog your main filters. I have a small racor mounted on a bulkhead for this purpose with a Walbro diesel pump on my Colvin Gazelle. Only one 80 gallon tank tho so it is easy to do. I also have a bigish racor as the main filter and a smaller back up that I can quickly switch to if the main starts to go.
Recognizing you are trying to put a more sophisticated pronunciation on the 'Power Station's' name, . . . . . . . . . . . OUPES . I wuz thimking it wus more like 'ooops' !
Oh-Pus would be the company’s preferred pronunciation.
@@Sailboatstory - Of course ! More 'distinguished' . . . . European . I like things simpler like when you drop the coffee pot . . . . . 'oooops!' But thank you for clarifying that for me ! ! ! Take care, have Fun ! ! ! RH
@@richardhobbs7107 You're welcome.
wtf? it not called polishing it called filtering or cleaning, polishing is what you do to paint and varnish and chrome
The fact that some people are so enthusiastic to demonstrate their own narrow-mindedness will never cease to astound me. 🙄
and the fact that Americans seem to think they know the English language better than England that invented it is beyond me@@Sailboatstory
@@gatecrasher1970 The enthusiastic demonstrations continue. Are you truly unable to see the hypocrisy in your own words? It's simultaneously both fascinating and embarrassing to witness.
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