The Paltry Economics of Esports

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @wallstreetmillennial
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    • @AM.official
      @AM.official 2 месяца назад

      Avg bro plays a PS4 not a Xbox

  • @MakerInMotion
    @MakerInMotion 2 месяца назад +213

    One issue is the esports "athletes" aren't very marketable. They're not good looking and they're usually socially awkward.

    • @jakegunning61
      @jakegunning61 2 месяца назад +29

      I have never heard of any of them I don't know one esport players name and I don't care to and I hate to say most people are like me on this one

    • @NaviRyan
      @NaviRyan 2 месяца назад +14

      The way I see it is they’re being managed like a k-pop groups essentially it’s all managed and organized and the players have to go along with whatever management wants. Who have no idea what video games even are. An example of out of touch management was the bully hunters fiasco taking mostly mid player girls having them compete against pros and being obliterated.

    • @Redotwo42
      @Redotwo42 2 месяца назад

      Look up skitter dota 2 and tofu dota 2. There's some good lookers.

    • @d0k0night
      @d0k0night 2 месяца назад +4

      @@NaviRyan Something to keep in mind is the management level isn't as blind to this as you might think. The girls never were meant to compete competitively against the professionals. There was never a future planned for the girls outside of marketing and looks. They were an ad campaign, nothing more. Leadership knew they wouldn't stand a chance, but that wasn't the goal to begin with.

    • @skrattaoppar9753
      @skrattaoppar9753 Месяц назад +1

      Except for a few teams like Sentinel for Valorant or T1 for LoL, their star players casually pull sponsors

  • @thegray5730
    @thegray5730 2 месяца назад +407

    My nephew wanted a Ninja in Pyjamas shirt for his birthday....my mom thought it was a Nickelodeon cartoon.

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 2 месяца назад +6

      They not like us.

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 2 месяца назад +8

      Check his private messages, quite a few of the influencers are being exposed as predators. Dont know their names but saw some supposed big names in the news recently

    • @abduldajewl
      @abduldajewl 2 месяца назад +1

      @@chiquita683

    • @user-jh6vc3cb2b
      @user-jh6vc3cb2b 2 месяца назад +4

      There actually is a Disney Jr show featuring ninjas in pajamas. It’s called PJ Masks.

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 2 месяца назад

      Well the classic "ninja" outfit looks like pajama anyway

  • @rook1196
    @rook1196 2 месяца назад +129

    Forget 725M, Nobody is explaining why Faze is even worth 17M

    • @ireneuszpyc6684
      @ireneuszpyc6684 2 месяца назад +11

      Faze did a crypto scam;
      BTW, $17 million valuation - as a marketing/internet-influencer vehicle

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster Месяц назад +2

      they seem to have a following, which also leads to donations by their viewers.

  • @michaelmarlow6610
    @michaelmarlow6610 2 месяца назад +54

    The esports bubble got so big so quickly there was never a chance for a lot of the games/leagues to establish themselves. They want to compare to other big sports but they’ve been around for over a century in most of them to establish a fan base to get bought in. The orgs wanted to set themselves up like an NFL team but didn’t understand the underlying strength of viewers wasn’t there. Since it’s free to view and they can switch at will they can jump from game to game viewing.

  • @kolonarulez5222
    @kolonarulez5222 2 месяца назад +329

    Today is my 29th birthday. Good to know my hand eye skills peaked 5 years ago.

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 2 месяца назад

      How good do you have to be to peak at 24?

    • @aitoluxd
      @aitoluxd 2 месяца назад +11

      i'll turn 30 in 9 days, i can relate 🤣

    • @sagars861
      @sagars861 2 месяца назад +3

      Happy Birthday soldier 😊

    • @boondoc001
      @boondoc001 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm 38 so I'm ancient in eSports terms. Also happy bday

    • @WesleyLeeYang
      @WesleyLeeYang 2 месяца назад +3

      welcome to the senile division of esports

  • @Exigentable
    @Exigentable 2 месяца назад +133

    I never really understood the popularity of traditional sports until I started to appreciate professional-level CS:GO. It suddenly made a lot of sense why people are into Soccer or American Football. It's all about seeing competition at a level far beyond what the average person is capable of.

    • @chiquita683
      @chiquita683 2 месяца назад

      Its like having TikTok dancing in the Olympics

    • @tomydurazno6243
      @tomydurazno6243 2 месяца назад +19

      Its hard to explain how huge is the gap between a good player and a top pro is, imagine comparing normal players with a freak of nature like Messi

    • @Exigentable
      @Exigentable 2 месяца назад +8

      @@CarlTobbs how many times have you been crypto scammed? you probably donate to grown men, nice buzzwords you're using. stop beating your girlfriend.

    • @AwesomeLifeguard
      @AwesomeLifeguard 2 месяца назад +2

      @@CarlTobbs dude what are you on lol just cause cable tv labels something as entertainment doesn't mean it's also not competitive. For example, the Olympics is competitive and entertainment. Hope you get better.

    • @suprcrzy
      @suprcrzy 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@CarlTobbsaccount created 1 week ago, saying incredibly stupid things. But have the nerve to call other ppl npc's. Lol

  • @STATESZ
    @STATESZ 2 месяца назад +233

    "but this wasn't enough to cover their corporate overhead" just sounds to me like "our executives get paid way too handsomely, at the expense of investors".

    • @ZontarDow
      @ZontarDow 2 месяца назад +29

      The problem is we've seen teams that are winning world titles where the executives in question are taking no salary and it's still true.

    • @Seagaltalk
      @Seagaltalk 2 месяца назад +12

      You're not very good at economics

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 2 месяца назад +7

      .... Yeah, no. Tell everyone you're super into this crap and can't tell that it's inherently a money sink due to fanboy bias without telling everyone. 🤷

    • @matdan2
      @matdan2 2 месяца назад +17

      It’s the gamers that get paid too handsomely. They don’t generate revenue. Even free accommodation sounds like it’s pushing it

    • @iambicpentakill971
      @iambicpentakill971 Месяц назад

      You think that the owners are happy to lose money so that those underneath them get paid a lot? You think way too highly of ultra rich people

  • @agyarhardjasudjana7804
    @agyarhardjasudjana7804 2 месяца назад +12

    I think the challenge here is attracting people who dont play games to watch the matches and invest in the industry. A lot of popular sports like football (Assoc, American, Australia etc) and Basketball are spectacle sports that people watch and follow eventhough they dont play the game. People inherently appreciate the difficulties and the excitement of the sports eventhough they never play the game.
    Other sports like Golf, Chess are only exciting to watch for people who play the game because general watcher cant really appreciate the level of difficulty. E-Sports went into this category. I think e-sports should learn from other "Physically less demanding sports" for references on how to market them.
    In addition e-sports are new. The oldest demographic that can understand the industry are Millenials. Not enough legacies to be build yet. The industry will be more sustainable when Gen Beta reach adolescent. Its too early now.

  • @KyleBDoeden
    @KyleBDoeden 2 месяца назад +48

    I think a big issue with esports is that watching a streamer who is just ok at the game but is likable and funny can be just as or more entertaining than watching super competitive players.

    • @sciemk8723
      @sciemk8723 2 месяца назад

      Players who are at the same level as the streamer will not improve their skills watching him.

    • @alphagamma1289
      @alphagamma1289 Месяц назад

      Very subjective. I personally don’t watch streamers at all. People have different tastes, like some people can’t get into regular sports.

  • @davidc1878
    @davidc1878 2 месяца назад +74

    Like many other new industries, esports was the product of the last two decades of bubblenomics. I seriously doubt whether esports is a sustainable industry, especially given the major headwinds facing the global economy.

    • @forte609
      @forte609 2 месяца назад +20

      Eh it will exist in a form of another. Esports has existed on the late 2000s
      Its the esports leagues that wont be sustainable. Community run leagues would live much longer

    • @ryanwalker9599
      @ryanwalker9599 2 месяца назад

      What other new industries weren't sustainable? Sir

    • @JK-ct1qw
      @JK-ct1qw 2 месяца назад +1

      Bubbleconomics is a good way to put it

    • @storminnordman9596
      @storminnordman9596 2 месяца назад +9

      @@ryanwalker9599hmm… industries that have grossly over-expanded in the last 20 years due to cheap money… Maybe its just all of them?

    • @davidc1878
      @davidc1878 2 месяца назад

      @@ryanwalker9599 Anything that was largely driven by hype and easy money and driven by globalization. Just look at a lot of big tech and social media firms as many are not profitable but are kept afloat by venture capital money and retail investors operating on hype. Or... anything that SoftBank or Kathy Woods invests in. haha.

  • @s4098429
    @s4098429 2 месяца назад +142

    Playing games for money, and not for fun, sounds like hell.
    Like eating when you’re not hungry food that you don’t like.

    • @jayschafer1760
      @jayschafer1760 2 месяца назад +33

      The fastest way to turn something you love into something you despise is to make paying your bills dependent upon success in that thing.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 2 месяца назад +7

      It's a lot of pressure

    • @MikeMike-ms1ns
      @MikeMike-ms1ns 2 месяца назад +6

      So you're saying playing football and getting paid for it is hell vs playing football without getting paid?

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 2 месяца назад +14

      @@MikeMike-ms1ns Pretty close to, when trying to enter the league and participating it. It's intensely competitive, with an all or nothing culture. If you dedicate your entire life to it, only to be outclassed, then it's a lot of wasted time.
      Job security is low in football as well. The stress in playing and winning resulted in a lot of unprofessional behavior over the past decade. There's a lot of parallels to e-sports in that regard.

    • @NamNguyen-xt4yk
      @NamNguyen-xt4yk 2 месяца назад

      idiot, that call a profession
      "if you good at something, never do it for free"

  • @richhands5269
    @richhands5269 2 месяца назад +76

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    • @okene
      @okene 2 месяца назад +8

      Replace stock brother with logically answered and i agree

    • @davianoinglesias5030
      @davianoinglesias5030 2 месяца назад +11

      You should add Plain Bagel and Patrick Boyle to that list

    • @Jumpman-cb9hw
      @Jumpman-cb9hw 2 месяца назад +5

      You should add modern mba too

    • @PoxyBear
      @PoxyBear Месяц назад

      You should add Company Man in there as well.

  • @JoeRogansGutBiome
    @JoeRogansGutBiome 2 месяца назад +103

    Young people losing their jobs and getting replaced by even younger people. This has been going on for generations.

    • @davidgil6875
      @davidgil6875 2 месяца назад +4

      asian method

    • @Xslfgapoom
      @Xslfgapoom 2 месяца назад +19

      Arguably the only thing "e-sports" has in common with actual professional sports

    • @ktbmk
      @ktbmk 2 месяца назад +3

      @@davidgil6875 americans losing their jobs but never their weight

    • @Seagaltalk
      @Seagaltalk 2 месяца назад

      Welcome to sports. Been happening in real sports for ever.

    • @magnemoe1
      @magnemoe1 2 месяца назад

      @@Seagaltalk This

  • @TheForever206
    @TheForever206 2 месяца назад +7

    The fact that CEO Bobby Kodick believed that the Overwatch League would be the equivalent to the NBA Esports is so funny. 😂😂😂😂

  • @CobaltLobster
    @CobaltLobster 2 месяца назад +48

    I think the term "athlete" is a bit much for eSports. Players, yes. Talented, yes. Athlete, no. Most can't run faster than me, and I'm on dialysis.

    • @xx765
      @xx765 Месяц назад

      The real-time games are all physically very challenging to play professionally. It's doing very specific movements at insanely high intensity and accuracy. Kind of like a pitcher in baseball

    • @CobaltLobster
      @CobaltLobster Месяц назад +5

      @@xx765 Athletic actually has a meaning. Try a dictionary.

    • @TheMightymolar
      @TheMightymolar Месяц назад +2

      That was my first thought, too, that there has to be another word. You don't see a great guitarist and think, "what a great athlete!"

    • @datapark9118
      @datapark9118 Месяц назад +3

      ​@TheMightymolar it's one of those sports like NASCAR to actually appreciate the focus and the physical toll on your body. I used to think the same thing but it's something a regular person will never experience so someone like you or me or the guy making the video just can't comprehend how difficult to be professional at anything even a game

    • @pedalesmexicali
      @pedalesmexicali Месяц назад +2

      They are e-athletes. There, I fixed it😂

  • @bonky221
    @bonky221 2 месяца назад +18

    I invested in two esports companies in Canada, both of which were listed on the TSX in 2020 and 2021. Today, one of the companies was delisted due to low trading volume, while the other is currently at 90% of its IPO. I'm unsure whether the esports industry will become profitable, but I hope these companies will turn a profit and help the industry grow.

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts 2 месяца назад +8

      you know people who actually know esports only put money in a team because they enjoy the hobby. they don't expect to ever make a profit.

    • @lordzed83
      @lordzed83 2 месяца назад +4

      well thats an L for you then this will nnever make any money im sure of that.

    • @lolkthnxbai
      @lolkthnxbai 2 месяца назад +3

      It's really hard to tell. Games have such s short lifespan in the grand scheme of things and second i firmly believe the franchise models that so many developers push for their own profit motives is just genuinely bad for esports and in OWL i think it strangled the entire scene, no natural grassroots movement formed like in other games, no real passionate groups for the game and when it wss relegated to what it is now there's no community or orgs to keep things going.

  • @BertieJasokie
    @BertieJasokie 2 месяца назад +16

    They are all trying to replicate the success of Dota2 and its teams. Dota2 had record amounts of money coming in from willing spectators, contributing to the massive prize pool. All because the developers recognized something the players wanted and gave it to them and most esports teams piggybacked off this success and saw huge growth.

    • @karenwang313
      @karenwang313 2 месяца назад +1

      Valve just has a better approach to esports, they allow the game to naturally grow and lets the community build events while tencent has a top down corporate approach to the whole thing.

    • @quattrobajeena8623
      @quattrobajeena8623 2 месяца назад +5

      That would be true before 2020. Even Dota's professional scene is a trainwreck now. Valve doesn't even intervene in its crown jewel tournament anymore (The International). Every year, the hype, the prize pool and even the prestige keeps on going downhill.

  • @technetium9653
    @technetium9653 2 месяца назад +11

    No one ever mentions a *core* problem of eSports, someone, legally owns it, football is not copyrighted by someone, i can create a league and theres nothing anyone can do about it, it can compete with any league from anyone, which creates competition and more teamn to attract people, eSports someone owns that shit, you slight the owner, or run a competition, good luck with your cease and desist letter

    • @敢林良
      @敢林良 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, also the rules of football don’t change every pAtch

  • @normtrooper4392
    @normtrooper4392 2 месяца назад +31

    I can't see video games competing with sports.
    Sports do not change from year to year. But what game is popular changes very quickly

    • @reappermen
      @reappermen 2 месяца назад +6

      Uhm, 3 of the biggest esports, Counter Strike, League of Legends and Dota have all been consitently among the top 5 for more than a decade, so the majority of the existence of esports as mainstream thing.

    • @normtrooper4392
      @normtrooper4392 2 месяца назад +16

      @@reappermen professional british football is almost 150 years old, with the roots of sport going back to medieval times.
      Video games are not meant to be long standing. People still play them, but general interest cannot be sustained in an audience that always wants new games.

    • @wolfumz
      @wolfumz 2 месяца назад +5

      Yeah, it's a problem. It's harder to maintain an audience when the games and technology naturally cycle out.
      Its crucial that your vote audience has played the game. The biggest football fans are people who played football in high school. You have a deeper appreciation for the sport. But that's hard to do when games cycle out.
      I've been an old school fighting games player for years. I've been attending tournaments since I was 16, which was 2004. At the time, everyone was playing street fighter 3. Now it's street fighter 6. The genre has perks- it's easy for anyone to watch and follow the basic match, unlike LOL or DOTA. But even so, I just don't have the same interests in street fight 6, I'm too old to play it. I still have an encyclopedic knowledge of street fighter 3, but 6, I don't know anything deep.
      I dont think this is insurmountable. But it's a problem e sports bas to deal with.
      Its never really been big enough to make money. streaming and advertising changed that a little bit, but nothing like LOL or CSGO. Even so, playing fighting games js not a job, even for the pros. The pros are basically influences, who also occasionally win a bit of prize money (or don't). Fighting games players have always played for the love of the game, IMO, money plays a much smaller role than other genres.

    • @BusinessDymystified
      @BusinessDymystified 2 месяца назад

      Interesting angle. Makes me think of fifa, 2k or NFL.
      Although the technicalities between fifa 98 and 23 are vastly different. The fundamentals remain the same.
      I could argue these have remained roughly the same for decades and seem like they will be popular for a while.
      Would these gain traction?

    • @BigRedNutcase911
      @BigRedNutcase911 2 месяца назад +6

      @@reappermen ESports are still infants compared to football (both flavors), basketball, baseball, and hockey. These sports have been around for literally ~100 years. None of them were that profitable in the beginning either. The problem that's unique to esports is that the competitive medium (the game) is control by one company where as the physical sport it is not. Anyone can start up a sport league without any restriction, just need the space and the equipment. With ESports, you literally can not start up another exact carbon copy of LoL, CS, or any game for that matter. You'd have to develop your own version of it that's entirely different from the original. So there's no consistency.
      I love video games but due to the nature of how they are generally short lived, they will never be able to get to where sports are today. I give league another 10 years before it goes into the retro gaming category and permanent falls out of the mainstream competitive scene.

  • @gavinshickle1814
    @gavinshickle1814 2 месяца назад +20

    The thing I can't figure out is this, if these events are so popular why are the over all prize pools so small? I know there is something I'm missing. I just don't know what it is.

    • @kkshinichi
      @kkshinichi 2 месяца назад +16

      Prize pool is small for Riot Games esports events, as they're more focused on behind-the-door revenue sharing to their entire esports scene, not just the one at the top.
      If you want to large prize money, see Valve's esports events like Dota 2's The International (though they don't care anymore on prize money like they did before) and CS2 Majors. Also, follow Saudi's money (Esports World Cup)

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 2 месяца назад +4

      Not profitable.....thats why....

    • @vincentorlando6767
      @vincentorlando6767 2 месяца назад +6

      The game creators have millions of fans who will buy their games, play, and buy future games......this is where the real money is.....esports is just promoting the games

    • @drayke8886
      @drayke8886 2 месяца назад

      Traditional sports are also not profitable but every team has government backing

    • @Xorgye
      @Xorgye 2 месяца назад

      There are almost no sports that can play full time without working alongside. For reference, most Olympic competitors have jobs and/or partners (married kind of stuff) and/or do side hustles (speaking at corporate events is a big one).

  • @flyingzeppo
    @flyingzeppo 2 месяца назад +17

    A house filled with teen male gamers. Imagine how funky that house must smell.

    • @MrTungson
      @MrTungson Месяц назад

      A house is fine. All you need is to open the window and let everything air out for 30min. A tournament location though is a different matter....

    • @1MinuteFlipDoc
      @1MinuteFlipDoc Месяц назад

      A lot of asian boys tho. Asians don't have the smell like western people do.

  • @jamesodell3064
    @jamesodell3064 2 месяца назад +17

    It would not surprise me if the leagues started to offer gambling on the tournaments.

    • @CheezMonsterCrazy
      @CheezMonsterCrazy 2 месяца назад +5

      It would be the best way to make money, they issue is international legality makes that extremely difficult (and morally, fuck gambling, because its only profitable on the backs of addicts).

    • @alphagamma1289
      @alphagamma1289 Месяц назад

      CS is sadly full of gambling, probably the main source of income.

  • @phyotyla
    @phyotyla 2 месяца назад +14

    I hope that people stop investing in SPACs. I don't get why people invest in investment vehicles that are specifically created to bypass all the paperwork that is protecting the investors.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 2 месяца назад +2

      Same. Nobody's complaining about it, which is bothersome.

  • @legatemichael
    @legatemichael 2 месяца назад +26

    Small correction not athletes, gamers or players. Athletes indicates athletics, physical exercise etc... I know we want to upgrade our favorite players but I think this is a big misconception that is potentially dangerous. Playing a video game is not the same as running track and field.

    • @reappermen
      @reappermen 2 месяца назад +10

      Still athletes for the most part, as most esports are very heavily dependant on body skills and ability. A llt of athletes are not endurance athletes, or even ones that extremely strain their muscles, e.g. Archery has more to do with fine motor controll than strength or endurance, just like most esports.

    • @runnanyoung9572
      @runnanyoung9572 2 месяца назад +5

      tell that to golf, billiard, air-gun shooting, and dart-shooting. Esports call themselves sports because a lot of rules are written with the word “sport” in them (visa rules, business rules etc), not because of clout, they don’t need any.

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 2 месяца назад +3

      Exactly. Sitting in a chair is not athletics......

    • @ridhosamudro2199
      @ridhosamudro2199 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@gomahklawm4446Bro just disrespected the entire motorsports like that

    • @JiggyJones0
      @JiggyJones0 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@reappermen playing video games doesn't require athletics ability so their not athletes.

  • @JoeRogansGutBiome
    @JoeRogansGutBiome 2 месяца назад +44

    Ninjas in Paris

  • @richardkovak6971
    @richardkovak6971 2 месяца назад +12

    I feel like you are using the term “athlete” very liberally in this video.

    • @derekmarsden8934
      @derekmarsden8934 2 месяца назад +2

      Absolutely. Even the phrase "e sports" is laughable. Most of these people have probably never even run for a bus.

  • @walls2ink
    @walls2ink 2 месяца назад +12

    Happy Sunday

    • @aitoluxd
      @aitoluxd 2 месяца назад +3

      happy sunday to you too mate

    • @walls2ink
      @walls2ink 2 месяца назад +2

      @@aitoluxd much appreciated ❤️

  • @tripleeyeemoji2685
    @tripleeyeemoji2685 2 месяца назад +10

    I’ve been playing video games since I was 4 years old in 2000 and I never have gotten the appeal of esports. I don’t get why they are called “athletes”

    • @zeusjukem9484
      @zeusjukem9484 2 месяца назад

      the same reason footballers are.. it is a physical sport so the competitors are athletes.

    • @JiggyJones0
      @JiggyJones0 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@zeusjukem9484 esports aren't physical that's why there's an "e" in front of the name. Football players are called athletes because what they do requires athletic ability. Playing a video game doesn't require athletic ability. Pretty cut and dry

    • @TheRonnieaj
      @TheRonnieaj 2 месяца назад +2

      I think “players” would be a better term, especially since they’re playing a game, and it’s just as easy to say “here are the players on our team.”

    • @Ignoto88
      @Ignoto88 2 месяца назад +2

      @@JiggyJones0 Imagine a nutritionist recommending a sport for weight loss and suggesting you buy a PS5. XD

    • @d0k0night
      @d0k0night 2 месяца назад

      You just don't understand why, and maybe never will. And that's OK.

  • @soal159
    @soal159 2 месяца назад +7

    The economy of excess crumbles when there is no excess. This is also why the old malls have become empty and stores are closing and moving out. People tend to spend money on what they can afford or have money to spend on. When there is no money then they spend on what they feel they absolutely need in the moments. Don't know yet if esports will die or morph into something else.

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 2 месяца назад +3

      Glad less people are wasting money on disposable fashion.

    • @derekmarsden8934
      @derekmarsden8934 2 месяца назад +1

      In truth there is plenty of excess cash it just gets wasted in conspicuous consumption which is destroying our panet

    • @soal159
      @soal159 2 месяца назад +1

      @@derekmarsden8934 You are not seeing the rising prices on the fundamentals expenses. Companies know people have adapted to a lifestyle and they are raising the price every year which has a draining effect on your wallet because no one really wants to go backwards just because they suddenly re categorize your goods as luxury now.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 2 месяца назад

      I personally hate the luxury market with a passion due to how people are illogically attracted to it and how much it affects socializing. Not just the fashion industry.
      They're quite a drain on the economy too, since they don't meaningfully contribute to society.
      Utilitarianism, minimalism, and frugalism are always a good approach to living.

  • @jeko32
    @jeko32 2 месяца назад +50

    Every time you say athlete I'm mentally adding sarcastic air quotes around that word.

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion 2 месяца назад +16

      Yeah most athletes have a cheeto-free diet and upper arms thicker than their wrists.

  • @williamdrum9899
    @williamdrum9899 2 месяца назад +2

    Melee:
    * Rushed out the door on Christmas 2001
    * No balance patches, game is hilariously broken
    * Only like 5 good characters and 1 good stage
    * Loved by everyone
    * Is the sole reason Nintendo still makes gamecube controllers
    * The most played competitive Smash Bros much to Nintendo's chagrin
    Overwatch:
    💀

  • @SnowmanTF2
    @SnowmanTF2 2 месяца назад +2

    It seems odd a company managing teams got large enough to be listed on NASDAQ to begin with.
    Most sports of medium to large scale seem to have a similar pipeline from player to broadcaster of some form, which probably has similar small percentage make that transition successfully.

  • @abzeromusic
    @abzeromusic Месяц назад +1

    This is one of the most accurate videos of this style I've ever seen. Most of the time people reporting on these topics are wildly off base.
    11:57 here is where you are wrong though. In the West it is true, generally it doesn't matter what you look like. Western teams will generally take the most talented player(outside of behavioral issues), but in the East this is not true at all.
    Famously the starcraft player July Zerg had an incredibly hard time getting onto a professional team despite being one of the greatest starcraft players of all time. Why? Because he was fat and ugly and the Eastern teams focus a lot on the fandom of female fans. Where the west focuses almost entirely on male fans. So often times the star players on eastern trams are handsome and sociable.
    For a second example the Lol player Effort had a similar issues getting sighned to a team as he suffered from terrible acme. Which he had to have professionally treated before he could sign to a top team.
    Your off base here. The popular Chinese and Korean players can transition quite well because they already have personal brands that the teams manage. They never say out right but they hire people based on work but it's kind of an unspoken rule.

  • @pocketvices
    @pocketvices 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm surprised he didn't mention the esports world cup happening. millions are being put up by a middle eastern org for a new tournament (series?) Starting this year.

  • @RayJames-mk3yq
    @RayJames-mk3yq Месяц назад

    Judging by the comments this channel is not the demo for esports news or analysis. Esports is widely popular but not with NA boomers.

  • @alimfuzzy
    @alimfuzzy 2 месяца назад

    When i worked at one of the big athletics brand companies i tried to convince them to sponsor some esport, they said no one is interested in it. They then spent 50K for one social media video (about 2 mins long) of some dancers who refused to wear their clothes or promote them. They final put a single hashtag. It resulted in absolutely no exposure.
    There was a lot of wasted money like that.

  • @Jeez001
    @Jeez001 2 месяца назад +26

    So we got all these things pushed as next big thing by VCs: NFTs, Esports, EVs, clean energy and now AI..

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 2 месяца назад +11

      EV's and clean energy are still inevitable. Or at least inevitable if we still want to have a liveable planet. 🤷 AI also isn't going anywhere. The most successful VC's are right significantly more often than they're wrong. That's literally how they make money and continue to exist.

    • @Qwerty.240
      @Qwerty.240 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Cooe. But they hype things up for their own profit for sure. The AI is so over-hyped, EVs are promoted for EVERYONE but they're not the best purchase for an average guy (poor EV charging infrastructure, high insurances, etc). Clean energy like nuclear fusion will play a very important role in the future for sure, but currently it's a far fetched dream if we need affordable energy. VCs have a history of hyping things up to a point that the bubble bursts.

    • @Alarios711
      @Alarios711 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Qwerty.240 "poor EV charging infrastructure, high insurances" For a typical commute you don't really need "infrastructure", and insurance is more tied to your habits of buying insane monstro cars that make no actual sense than EV's. A Chevy Bolt is 80 bucks a month to insure, just stop buying extremely expensive vehicles maybe.
      "EVs are promoted for EVERYONE but they're not the best purchase for an average guy"
      99.9% of Americans buy a car they don't need. High luxury sedans, huge oversized SUV's and pick ups, freaking mega boosted race cars etc...
      Almost no car is the best purchase for an average guy but somehow, weirdly, it's when we talk about EV's that it starts to become an issue.

    • @magnemoe1
      @magnemoe1 2 месяца назад

      @@Qwerty.240 EV works very well for most cars but not if you drive very long or haul heavy loads. Electrical trucks is stupid for long haul.

    • @philliptemple9841
      @philliptemple9841 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@magnemoe1So EV only works for 99% of journeys?
      Phillip.

  • @binch6291
    @binch6291 2 месяца назад

    My significant other was a professional on the community/events side of the games industry for a decade, and from everything they told me about the vibe of the industry this is totally unsurprising. Pretty much everything that isn’t software sales is operating at a hard loss financed by VC or the software side. They told me that part of why Twitch had to clean house so hard on acquisition was because something in the >10% range of their expenses was just the party budget (not even the public facing events).

    • @zeusjukem9484
      @zeusjukem9484 2 месяца назад +1

      as in, the budget for partying? c0k3 and sh1t?

  • @edi2o9
    @edi2o9 Месяц назад

    This video is about League of Legends Esports, not the whole Esports. In Counter-Strike 2 or other games, it's a different economy where the video game developer doesn't own and produce any tournaments.

  • @danielmunoz9694
    @danielmunoz9694 Месяц назад

    you never talked about the FGC, those guys are killing it

  • @garyp3472
    @garyp3472 2 месяца назад +5

    Please don't say my Ninjas in Pyjamas investment is anything less than a rock solid home for my retirement funds.

  • @RobinMarks1313
    @RobinMarks1313 2 месяца назад +6

    They are not athletes. They are gamers. Chess is a game. Video games are games, not sports. You could argue a race car driver isn't an athlete. However, at lest a race car driver has demands on many parts of his body and there is a physical endurance factor. Video games aren't sports.

    • @sciemk8723
      @sciemk8723 2 месяца назад +3

      What about reflex ? Hand and fingers dexterity and precision? There are very few pro players who can physically play at 800 apm for a long time.

    • @kakinator2365
      @kakinator2365 2 месяца назад

      I think fighting games are a good example of physical endurance and dexterity for example with arcade sticks.

  • @JhonnyBravo97
    @JhonnyBravo97 2 месяца назад +8

    "Athletes"🤣🤣🤣

    • @NoVisionGuy
      @NoVisionGuy Месяц назад

      You don't understand the definition of "athletes" then

    • @JhonnyBravo97
      @JhonnyBravo97 Месяц назад

      @@NoVisionGuy Definition: “Athlete”- a person who is proficient in sports and other forms of PHYSICAL exercise. Sitting in front of a screen for 7 years does not count as physical exercise only in clown world maybe but since we do live in a clown world I see where you’re coming from.

  • @phlash65-5
    @phlash65-5 2 месяца назад +10

    I never considered playing video games as a pro sport, and the hype about it is trash. It’s boring to watch. I much prefer watching a normal streamer play his game alone, I don’t want to watch some team of kids getting sweaty playing together as “pros”.

    • @pocketvices
      @pocketvices 2 месяца назад +1

      watch evo moment 37

    • @crimcrusader8459
      @crimcrusader8459 2 месяца назад +1

      @@pocketvices Even then, the Fighting Game Community is seen as a subset of eSports with some real staying power.
      Each competitor in the FGC eSports are competing at an individual level, sponsored or otherwise.

  • @chilichilis5689
    @chilichilis5689 2 месяца назад +1

    banger. make more on this topic

  • @syed_mamoon99
    @syed_mamoon99 2 месяца назад

    Actual problem with eSports businesses is that the game studio has the upper hand, if you're the investor you'd have exposure in the developer not the participants.

  • @petebreadwards8737
    @petebreadwards8737 2 месяца назад +29

    I had to stop the video. I kept laughing when you called these nerds athletes. 🤓

    • @brandonburns5365
      @brandonburns5365 2 месяца назад +1

      😅😅😅

    • @justinweber4977
      @justinweber4977 2 месяца назад +2

      It's all playing game for cash, I guess in this case we can at least say carpel tunnel is a "better" outcome than some other games provide.

    • @brandonburns5365
      @brandonburns5365 2 месяца назад +1

      @justinweber4977 only a nerd would come to this conclusion 😆

    • @justinweber4977
      @justinweber4977 2 месяца назад

      @@brandonburns5365 My cover is blown!

  • @ktktktktktktkt
    @ktktktktktktkt 2 месяца назад +18

    "Everyone is losing money" also describes the current stock market :)

    • @vanillatornado8390
      @vanillatornado8390 2 месяца назад +15

      Irrelevant comment. It doesn't describe the stock market over time nor does it describe most other professional sports leagues. For example, the average NFL owner has seen a 300% ROI over the last decade.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 месяца назад +2

      Only if you're a ponzi schemer

    • @lelagrangeeffectphysics4120
      @lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 2 месяца назад

      @@vanillatornado8390 OP is likely just another tankie that thinks that throwing the capitalism baby with the corruption bathwater will solve all of the worlds problems, pinky promise.

    • @john6291
      @john6291 2 месяца назад +1

      Only if you bot on Thursday

  • @fnorgen
    @fnorgen 2 месяца назад

    Seems to be more an issue with top-down organized corpo esports. Any game with a decent sized competitive scene can be an esport as long as there's an appealing way to spectate games. There's quite a few scenes that have chugged along this way, with tournaments organized by hobbyists and modestly popular streamers without there really being much money involved. That's the big advantage of esports! The barrier to entry for organizing tournaments is really low. I remember one awesome tournament where a streamer simply had a bunch of world class players crowded into his apartment.
    But then there's all these companies aiming for huge revenue off of esports that rarely have the fanbase to support it, operating on the assumption that the hoards of new fans will materialize if they just burn enough money on flashy events and elaborate marketing. But this somewhat chokes out the possibility for organic growth.

  • @christopherd.winnan8701
    @christopherd.winnan8701 2 месяца назад

    It would be interesting if you could do a deeper dive into the Chinese Pro League.

  • @xelefonte
    @xelefonte 2 месяца назад +3

    This is gambling but with a fancy name. It’s more like online gambling because you’re just staring at a screen but within the comfort of your own home if not at a stadium. The worst part like gambling is that what it does to your well being. I remember South Park had an episode of world of Warcraft where they all got fat, ugly and looked awful after being addicted for months. This is attrition at its finest. You will lose money and your mental well being.

  • @deathlarsen7502
    @deathlarsen7502 2 месяца назад +8

    recruit "athletes" - yeah "athletes"

  • @Rusty5000
    @Rusty5000 2 месяца назад +2

    Its beneficial for the ip holders but not sure how a stock for an esport organization will work they dont own the ip. Its not like they can dictate how league of legends or other ips are run

  • @cttommy73
    @cttommy73 17 дней назад

    The difference between E-Sports and normal sports is that E-Sports were more artificial in growth than real sports(Ironic, really).
    You have some E-Sports games/genre that stuck around because they developed a decent fanbase, but most of them just really don't stick. To make E-Sports profitable and able to stick around, you need to find a game/genre that can capture people's attention and keep it for the long run. It also has to be something your normie casuals can understand.

  • @j.christopherbowen252
    @j.christopherbowen252 2 месяца назад +1

    How do we know fraud is not the determining factor of who wins? All sports are a vanity project for the wealthy. But how do we prevent fraud on the part of league owners.

    • @technetium9653
      @technetium9653 2 месяца назад

      What do you mean by win? The tournaments I say who cares ? Who survives, I don't particularly care if the company gets defrauded, I don't see how the average consumer gets screwed here unless they invest, which is dumb as hell

  • @sutats
    @sutats 2 месяца назад +5

    What tranferrable skills do esports players have after they age out of their team.

    • @christinaapplesauce2459
      @christinaapplesauce2459 2 месяца назад +2

      yes

    • @crimcrusader8459
      @crimcrusader8459 2 месяца назад +2

      For one thing, being a social media influencer and content creator, especially if the esports player in question was mentored by any of the OGs of the organisation he/she joined.
      Matthew 'Nadeshot' Haag is one such example as he went from full-time pro player in Optic Gaming to Founding CEO of 100 Thieves.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 2 месяца назад +4

      Not that much real-world skills.They could lack the big opportunity of going to university or learning a trade skill.
      But coordination, communication, and discipline are good traits of these players. Not sure what job field would appreciate these the most.

    • @crimcrusader8459
      @crimcrusader8459 2 месяца назад +4

      @@yensteel Don't forget about leadership and mentoring in general.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 2 месяца назад

      @@crimcrusader8459 Thanks!

  • @EmperorDionx
    @EmperorDionx 2 месяца назад +10

    Just say it Wallstreet millennial. You need to be physically attractive to transition into entertainment. Which that Chinese esports player definitely was

    • @sertorius3319
      @sertorius3319 2 месяца назад +3

      A basic look at top Twitch streamers would go against that (unless you limit it to women, the site and its userbase seem to prioritize a certain look and content style for females streamers). What counts is charisma, and the type of gamer who has it is usually not the type to get into esports when there’s less skill-intensive ways to turn that into fame and money.

    • @EmperorDionx
      @EmperorDionx 2 месяца назад +1

      @@sertorius3319 I said entertainment as in on TV series, not video game streaming

    • @sertorius3319
      @sertorius3319 2 месяца назад +1

      @@EmperorDionx Fair enough, though I would add the caveat that the example WSM mentioned of reality TV is more skewed towards looks than some other TV programs. Certain genres can have a bit more leeway in that department. A funny-looking guy can still make it as a comedic actor, for example.

  • @REgamesplayer
    @REgamesplayer 2 месяца назад +11

    Sports in general are just for the rich to burn a lot of money. Not esports, but any sport. So, we should be just happy that Saudis for example decide to share their wealth by giving it back to us through entertainment/sports.

    • @vanillatornado8390
      @vanillatornado8390 2 месяца назад +1

      Wrong. Moat professional sports owners see multiple times over return on their investment in a relatively short period of time, far greater returns than the stock market. For example, NFL owners have seen a ~300% ROI over the last decade. Also, it sounds like you're pro sports washing. You're either a bot or kinda du..

  • @bigbeautifulsnowflake7546
    @bigbeautifulsnowflake7546 2 месяца назад

    10:34 contrary to what you are stating, their esports dvision is highly profitable though, so it have to be their other operations that are operating at a loss

  • @MicrophonicFool
    @MicrophonicFool 2 месяца назад +9

    I know I am never going to be the target market, but watching e-sports is just as dull as watching curling. The events are much ado about fuck-all.

    • @Emerald_Forge
      @Emerald_Forge 2 месяца назад +2

      What game did you watch? I'm not a lol fan but i watched the world's final and it was interesting (didn't understand 90% of it lmao)

    • @Brodragon2225
      @Brodragon2225 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Emerald_ForgeeSports is fun when you can join

    • @biometal770
      @biometal770 2 месяца назад +3

      I watch esports all the time and love it

    • @phlash65-5
      @phlash65-5 2 месяца назад +4

      Curling is much more fun to watch. Watching teams play video games is boring as hell. I much prefer just watching a single streamer play a game by himself. Stop trying to “sport” everything.

  • @stuartstein8062
    @stuartstein8062 2 месяца назад +6

    You can call them athletes until the cows come home let's see one of them run a mile

  • @CitizenZero1
    @CitizenZero1 2 месяца назад +7

    “Athletes”

  • @BusinessDymystified
    @BusinessDymystified 2 месяца назад

    I think ideally e-sport tournaments aspire to get to premier league, NBA and NFL levels of popularity where fans can stream the games globally. they can then sell broadcasting licenses to tv station streaming services etc. The big question though is, will it ever get to this point?
    Is it still an industry in its nascent stages?
    Only time will tell.

    • @kiresedivaneb
      @kiresedivaneb 2 месяца назад +1

      The problem is they want esports to get there through capital investment instead of organically improving their broadcast product. You can put an infinite amount of money in a pro water polo league and thats not going to change how many will watch.

  • @No0dz
    @No0dz Месяц назад

    eSports will never be lucrative like traditional sports. There is enough for individuals to support a career as a streamer, but the audience is there for the individual streamer. There's no silver bullet to how a company can make money from that situation.

  • @saydaddy91
    @saydaddy91 2 месяца назад

    The problem with esports that traditional sports like football don’t have is that unlike overwatch there’s never going to be a football 2

  • @riemenscheider
    @riemenscheider 2 месяца назад +2

    I think if you would spend 1min formatting the excel tables (same font, no grid and beautify) your videos would look way more professional

  • @DumbledoreMcCracken
    @DumbledoreMcCracken 2 месяца назад +4

    SBF was an fSports champion while also an eSports champion

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts 2 месяца назад +5

      nope. he was garbage at the games

    • @crimcrusader8459
      @crimcrusader8459 2 месяца назад +1

      @@toomanyaccounts He's surprisingly bad at League of Legends.
      The irony of it all, is that he made a 10 year deal with TSM for naming rights for 210 million dollars until that deal fell apart following the collapse of FTX.

  • @localneo-graphic4647
    @localneo-graphic4647 Месяц назад

    The 'reaction time' meme has been thoroughly debunked, the real issue is neuroplasticity and adapting to a game that literally changes drastically every two weeks, and that's just the game itself, it doesn't even consider the rapid player side innovation and growth that organically happens even with games that receive no updates.
    Look at games that have been around for decades with highly developed competitive scenes, namely Street Fighter and Tekken. Reaction times are EVEN MORE important in those games than they are in League, yet there are players in their late 30s or even 40s still dominating. For a newer game like League, the player base is growing and a player that was in the top .01% of 5 million players in the early pro days will still need to be in the top .01% when there are 500 million players, chances are that's not going to happen. Now that League's style has been clearly defined for a long time now and the player base has reached its peak, you aren't seeing superstar talent pop out of nowhere with yesterday's star falling into irrelevance, the best players right now have been the best players for the past 5 years.

  • @123mathtutorabc4
    @123mathtutorabc4 Месяц назад

    Let's not kid ourselves, a big draw for traditional sports is betting, there's a reason why so many people are willing to pay to watch them live and why leagues like the NFL and NBA can demand huge sums of money for broadcasting rights.

  • @alexhubble
    @alexhubble 2 месяца назад +1

    Interesting.

  • @glenmiller1437
    @glenmiller1437 2 месяца назад

    Many years ago, I came across an Xbox gaming competition on TV. As they went to commercial, the announcer said they would return soon with interviews with the gaming "athletes". I kind of laughed. It was the first time I heard the word "athlete" associated with gaming, and it got me thinking about the definition of "athlete". Those xbox dudes certainly did not look like "athletes", and you don't call players in a chess tournament (or fast rubik's cubers) athletes, so I was having a problem with it being used for xbox gamers.
    I discussed it with friends and we kind-of decided that to be an athlete you needed to physically exert yourself and have full body locomotion. Physical conditioning would be necessary to succeed. I hadn't thought about it for years, but now I just heard it repeatedly in this video. Sorry WSM, I protest. Gamers are not athletes.

  • @Seagaltalk
    @Seagaltalk 2 месяца назад +1

    People like playing video games. But watching competitions of them?? I am not sure that is a natural progression and there could very well not be increasing demand for esports. Also many of the most poopular games do not lend themselves to esports

  • @GameFuMaster
    @GameFuMaster Месяц назад

    maybe because the idea of esports is mostly tied to the in-game characters than the people doing the competing

  • @TheSushiandme
    @TheSushiandme 2 месяца назад +2

    never heard of these teams or esport.

    • @lordzed83
      @lordzed83 2 месяца назад

      gues you dont follow gaming AT ALL

  • @chiquita683
    @chiquita683 2 месяца назад +1

    8:54 No Diddy

  • @JW-tl1is
    @JW-tl1is 2 месяца назад

    You gave the wrong information for League Of Legends, lower division teams cannot challenge the upper division teams for a spot. It is a franchise system, upper division teams had to buy in, consequently a team must be willing to sell their place for a lower division team to buy it.

  • @TheMorhaGroup
    @TheMorhaGroup 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm interested in your short reports, would you be able to do a free trail, even a period as short as 3 days would be fine, I think it is a bit of an ask to request $20 a month while having no way to check the quality of data🤔

  • @hotsauceislethal9430
    @hotsauceislethal9430 2 месяца назад

    I used to play call of duty every single day. My thumbs still hurt thinking about it 😂

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 2 месяца назад

    I feel like the reason for this is that the companies that own the games just strangle them.
    Like how are you going to make money from it You're going to make money from ads on streams and like sponsors to an extend because like somebody will always be willing to pay something to sponsor the teams or the streams to get their logo on it so that we only know that Intel exists or whatever. although that's a bad example because until probably doesn't want anyone to know they exist right at this moment.
    The way to make money is through merchandise. gamers will buy stupid little things and they will buy themed clothing, as well as cosplay stuff and they will buy skins obviously. Brian needs to give up on having their own store because currently it sucks. they should leave the store up but they need to stop trying to just like sell six things as if it's like fucking supreme or something I don't even know what they're doing.
    they need to let the teams make whatever merchandise they want to, even require it, and then put it on their storefront and then let the community make anything and basically start to enforce copyright to the extent that they don't shut everything down like Nintendo, But just corral people into their storefront. everybody can design things and make things sort of like teespring, riot just gets a cut of it whatever it is sold on the storefront.
    and for the love of God they have to stop advertising to like young Gen z and Jen alpha like those are fortnite players they don't even know how to use a computer because everything they've ever used is a touch screen or console Like your audience is aging up so stop marketing towards children cuz you just are never going to capture them that way Like you have to turn it into something adults play that's cool and then kids will want to play it because adults play it this is like how every other game got big like starcraft wasn't big because of child was amazing It was like people and like their late teens and twenties were good at it.

  • @scienceandmathHandle
    @scienceandmathHandle 2 месяца назад +2

    I like to play video games from time to time and I will occasionally throw a buck or two to a player I like(not LOL) but I would never invest money in it, its almost laughable that someone would invest in it, the same goes for normal sports too!

  • @foobarf8766
    @foobarf8766 2 месяца назад +3

    So much money lost... unless you're the casino in Macau I guess

  • @CommenterTenma
    @CommenterTenma Месяц назад

    i like Esports but not to the level of physical sports. also it started as a free to watch, which was weird given it was marketed as a sport.

  • @TheSateef
    @TheSateef 2 месяца назад

    how long before gaming is an Olympic sport?

  • @TravellerBrianN
    @TravellerBrianN 2 месяца назад

    Sounds like owning a racing team. Even in F1, the majority of teams lose money let alone all the other racing teams in all the other leagues in the world.

  • @KingLife1991
    @KingLife1991 2 месяца назад +2

    Calling people playing video games “athletes” is crazy 😂

    • @srbs1302
      @srbs1302 2 месяца назад

      The word just doesn’t feel right in this case. There should be a better one.

  • @PoxyBear
    @PoxyBear Месяц назад

    Esports never became a major player in America and that's a huge factor in its limited appeal.

  • @reliablyrandomoutdoors
    @reliablyrandomoutdoors 28 дней назад

    Could we not call them athletes, please? I’m mean it’s bad enough We call golfers

  • @agentdeluxe
    @agentdeluxe 2 месяца назад +1

    Little do people know that most top sports like American football don't make any money either, valuations of those franchises have nothing to do with profits, but based off what the last team sold for...

  • @vincentorlando6767
    @vincentorlando6767 2 месяца назад

    The game creators have millions of fans who will buy their games, play, and buy future games......this is where the real money is.....esports is just promoting the games

  • @lus
    @lus 2 месяца назад +3

    As an esports investor in Houston. I lost $20,000 out of my $25,000 investment in a team.

    • @notnoaintno5134
      @notnoaintno5134 2 месяца назад

      Your mistake was trusting anything in Houston

    • @herogebrial
      @herogebrial 2 месяца назад +2

      You win some. You lose some. Better luck next time brother 🙏

  • @Timpon_Dorz
    @Timpon_Dorz 2 месяца назад +11

    Ninjas in pajamas... My ninjas

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 2 месяца назад +27

    To be fair, it's the same waste of money that real sports are.

    • @beingme2345
      @beingme2345 2 месяца назад +12

      No, real sports produces money from media rights deals.

    • @JiggyJones0
      @JiggyJones0 2 месяца назад +1

      Real sports actually bring in a profit though so what do you mean by waste of money?

  • @pookachu64
    @pookachu64 2 месяца назад +6

    7:42 don't call them athletes

    • @SpymasterW61
      @SpymasterW61 2 месяца назад +1

      My thought exactly

    • @dyeyear
      @dyeyear 2 месяца назад

      Those tums be racing to touch the next button in rapid succession

  • @russellandrews1177
    @russellandrews1177 2 месяца назад +1

    It's a me, a-Mario

  • @eviljonbob_
    @eviljonbob_ 2 месяца назад

    I liked how Wall Street would show inages of the Old NIP Counter Strike roster and not the current clown car.
    Also this video felt like it had no substance. Too much focus on China/Riot.

  • @redda2
    @redda2 2 месяца назад +1

    Starcraft Brood War is the original and best esport

    • @crimcrusader8459
      @crimcrusader8459 2 месяца назад +2

      The irony of it all is that it was not originally conceived as an eSport by Blizzard until South Korea made it popular as one.
      Only then did Bilzzard decided to capitalize on the craze.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@crimcrusader8459It took a couple of patches too. A corsair could lock down defenses easily when the game launched.
      It wasn't competitive until the game became healthy and balanced. There's a nice video about the evolution of patches.
      Still got Zerg rushed after all the balance changes were made. Some things never changed in the casual scene.

  • @Bel989-rc3lx
    @Bel989-rc3lx 2 месяца назад +8

    If that is all it takes to be called "athletes", then my fellow RUclips community...I'm proud to announce I am Cristiano Ronaldo, Mike Tyson, and Kobe Bryant (RIP) all rolled into one. I demand to be entered into every sports hall of fame!
    I was going to complete in the Olympics but the hours of gaming on the Xbox took my energy.

    • @forte609
      @forte609 2 месяца назад +2

      You clearly dont play those competitive games lol.

  • @SillySausage-mq3so
    @SillySausage-mq3so 2 месяца назад +2

    Has any watched eSports ,not me, ever.

  • @BuzzzedSwan
    @BuzzzedSwan 2 месяца назад

    The money is in the games themselves.