@shehzad Thank you for bringing him in the podcast. Lots of things got cleared about Dr. Salam services to Pak. you are a courageous man. Luv u. "Haters gonna hate"
A question was posed to Salam why the “neutrino” particles are massless to which no one had an answer in those days. This became one of his greatest intellectual challenges. In 1956 after attending a conference in USA, Salam on his way back had worked out an answer and duly sent his proposal to Wolfgang Pauli (acknowledged as the top most adjudicator of physicists of the time) for confirmation. Pauli replied to him by saying “My son, do not worry me with this rubbish. Go and think of something better”. But Pauli’s reckless reply was to prove wrong. In 1957 Yang and Lee came to the same conclusion as Salam but were awarded the Nobel Prize instead for a discovery which Salam had cracked earlier. What a shame.
Isn't it funny how a lot of scientists get arrogant and don't appreciate new ideas when they get older. Like Einstein and Pauli and Newton. Also neutrinos aren't fully massless. They have a small amount of mass.
One of the better podcasts of TPE. Maybe a bit esoteric due to heavy terminology, for some people. But it expounds things strikiningly. You just have to pay attention. Kudos Shehzad
Shahzad, I'm a man of science and all my life, I wanted to create something like the cosmos. I remember watching Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Since I have background as filmmaker, I would gladly volunteer for a show on science on RUclips. Count me in. I'll be glad to be part of it. I know people who will willingly come forward.
@@ThePakistanExperience Just sent you the email. Thanks for sharing your email. It will be a pleasure to be part of science awareness in Pakistan and being part of your mission.
Zakir Thaver is a very dedicated and hardworking man, but as a nation we seem to have this manufacturing default, where we can’t help ourselves but make gods out of nothing and put them on the highest singhasan, then bring them back down to nothing, it happens over and over again. I’ll sum it up with a bit of poetry, Hum zamanay main kuch aisay bhatkay Keh abb tou apni bhi gali yaad nahi Suggestion for the next documentary, I would say, unbiased and impartial documentary on mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani will be very interesting and should answer many question we are afraid to ask.
Shehzad, if possible, please invite Gen R Tariq Khan and take his insights on the militancy in KP, how to counter it, the flaws in today's IBOs etc.....
Very interesting guest. It is correct that anything that goes against averagely held common sense is very difficult to explain to mediocre minds anywhere.
As an indian and CHemical Patent specialist i have checked atur rehman patents and they were not granted for the invention he claimed. Basically he tried to claim chemical compounds and those seems to be obvious and hence rejected. Looks like he made lot of money through setting up centres and purchase of scientific equipment
Salam was an absolute gem and just towards the end so heartbreaking that I as a Pakistani religious minority couldn't watch it to the end, just realising the sheer sorrow of your own countrymen being so against you based on faith
Yes AQ khan was a metallurgical engineer/ scientist and he brought stolen blueprints of centrifugal gas which is one of they key components of nuclear program. Dr Abdus salam yes i feel shame and guilt we didnt honor him and even dr AQ khan too.
I am in usa me yahan doctor k pass gya kamar dard tha jb 2 3 maheeny theek nhe hua to dr kehta hai ap namaz parho thek ho jaye ga 😅😅😅 just Pakistani things
The only guy who won the Nobel prize for your “glorious” nation, studied in undivided India. Since then you have not done anything in science and technology, something for you to think about!
1:09:18 I think this is "Saanson ki mala pe ". Shehzaad had mocked it in the past . However, I just love this song though it is an acquired taste. Saanso ki maala was the song sung by Nusrat on Rishi Kapoor's wedding in 70s. This bhajan(meaning devotional poem/song) is originally written (don't know whether composed) by Meerabai, a great Indian poet in 1500s. I am not sure about the popularity of this bhajan pre and post Nusrat but he definitely gave it his own style. Though Meerabai was a Krishna devotee, this bhajan can easily be interpreted to be dedicated to Niraakaar Brahman, the conception of The God which is a formless entity. This conception is The God is very close to the conception of Allah. Meerabai is also a prominent saint in Bhakti Movement and I believe that there were many similarities, interactions, inspirations between Bhakti and Sufi movements. It could be something that can be explored in this podcast as well.
@@ThePakistanExperience I know aapne good faith me hi Kiya hoga.... You have done his mimicry a couple of time if I remember correctly.....shayad mujhe mock ki jagah mimic hi bolna(likhna) chahiye tha😬
Hi Shehzad, i have been following your channel for the last 1 month and i find the discuasions to be logical. Are you aware of a few such channels for India. I am able to find only the extreme ones - either they love everything about India and Govt or they hate everything.
@34:30 Is غیب a problem word? Isn’t science about discovery? And if so then غیب ہو گا تو discover ہو گا نا؟ Maybe it was in an attempt to “sell himself” to a certain audience but can that not be translated into Salam cleverly finding words to engage with a lot who’d otherwise not listen to science, period?
One reason that i think science communication on a platform like RUclips for Pakistanis is so difficult is because it is rarely ever engaging. I could be wrong of course, but when i was 10,I gained basically unfiltered access to the internet and the first form of media I ended up encountering were science channels like "it's okay to be smart", " Vsauce" Etc. And don't even get me started on animation like krzgesagt and ted ed. Many Pakistani educational channels feel dry and more like classroom lectures than an engaging video that someone can casually watch. Of course there's also that desi brainrot, where short, simple and shallow videos fare better than long form in Pakistan, but I still think there is some untapped potential in younger audiences (teens/preteens/young adults). It can at least light a small spark in some kids, like it did in me, to be curious about a topic and research it.
Zakir did say in the end that he doesn’t know everything and he might have said something that wasn’t right. I just wanted to mention that Nusrat was not a traditional qawal, he was trained in Hindustani classical music and his genre of music was a fusion of hindustani classical and qawali which was already a bastardisation of traditional qawali. Traditional qawals like Aziz mian would not really ‘sing’ they would perform and recite. Also Nusrat did sing a lot of ghazals because he was a trained classical singer and for you Shehzad he also did an album of romantic duets with Madam Noor Jehan.
more research into Indian classical music would have answered all your queries. qawwal generally (especially those from established gharaana) are not folk singers. They are well-trained in a formalized musical tradition. Raags have binding structures, and even though they allow for a lot of improvisation unlike the Western classical, but still, they follow a set of rules. Indian percussion is written and far more advanced in terms of time scales and rhythm than the Western counterpart. So I feel a little more appreciation of it will help. It is a proper science and I think reducing it to "just a feel thing" seems as part of the same rhetoric that if pyramids were made in Egypt then surely aliens would have made them.
Maybe he did not understand the Questions or maybe you did not ask that tough questions. Today this show was not kind of a “Pakistan Experience” style. Wish you the best.
Ask him to visit Dr Javaid Ahmad Associate Professor Services Hospital Lahore......He has some footage of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan with his spiritual teacher Syed Saddar Ali Shah Bukhari r.a......very informative footage he has...
ruclips.net/video/egnOun2fHbc/видео.htmlsi=AZEwsDRqel9KqLts here is the link of the video of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan with Dr M Javaid Spiritual Teacher Syed Safdar Ali Shah Bukhari.....Dr Sahb posted the video of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan about 2 days back..@@ThePakistanExperience
Have you heard of Homi Bhabha or Vikram Sarabhai? These of many other physicists opposed the traditional thinking and brought in the sea of change in the scientific world in India. From ISRO, BARC to ATIRA these gentlemen redefined nationalism and patriotism. Wonder why Pakistan didn't find such people? Did patriotism get so easily replaced by jingoism? Was that the idea behind forming a separate nation?
Really enjoyed the podcast; great content! Just a suggestion: try not to generalize all Pakistani doctors under one umbrella. While there may be a few with outdated or misguided theories, the majority, especially younger ones, are incredibly smart and progressive. For instance, I was at a brunch yesterday, and the level of conversation was outstanding. Regarding Shahbaz Gill, the majority support PTI because they don’t align with other options-it’s a personal choice. Shahbaz Gill happens to be the only PTI representative here, and APPNA invites representatives based on the situation. I feel that in your bias against PTI, you tend to filter anything related to PTI as dumb, stupid, or cult-like. While there might be some who fit that description, the majority do not, and stereotyping PTI followers into one category isn’t fair. As for the podcast, it was excellent! Please produce more content like this.
@thepakistanexperience shehzad i am willing to act and make this sketch with you i don't care not married no kids aint scared of anyone. commented twice on tcm video against clerics and blasphemy etc. surprisingly no one did anything instead got likes!
Bro this guy is a gem fr. Bht bari bt h is banday ne Salam pr documentary banai is mulk main. Hats off to bro❤
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Game here to say the exact same thing. I thoroughly enjoyed listening to him.
Shahzad - is tarah ke logo ko bulaya karo. An authentic , clear headed brave man. Kudos for your choice.
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@shehzad
Thank you for bringing him in the podcast. Lots of things got cleared about Dr. Salam services to Pak.
you are a courageous man. Luv u.
"Haters gonna hate"
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A question was posed to Salam why the “neutrino” particles are massless to which no one had an answer in those days. This became one of his greatest intellectual challenges. In 1956 after attending a conference in USA, Salam on his way back had worked out an answer and duly sent his proposal to Wolfgang Pauli (acknowledged as the top most adjudicator of physicists of the time) for confirmation. Pauli replied to him by saying “My son, do not worry me with this rubbish. Go and think of something better”. But Pauli’s reckless reply was to prove wrong. In 1957 Yang and Lee came to the same conclusion as Salam but were awarded the Nobel Prize instead for a discovery which Salam had cracked earlier. What a shame.
Least bothered
Isn't it funny how a lot of scientists get arrogant and don't appreciate new ideas when they get older. Like Einstein and Pauli and Newton.
Also neutrinos aren't fully massless. They have a small amount of mass.
I swear by seeing the thumbnail I thought shehzad bhai has gone nuts and invited bhola record.😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
TU MASTI KARAHA HAI
@@ThePakistanExperience'Man this is going to be fun. Even Bhola will get confused after seeing the thumbnail. Hain mein kadon gya si?'
I need bhola on this podcast
Legit💀😂
Wow man this whole podcast freshen me up and in a way made me realize what passion sounds right.
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This was so so good.. Zakir seems like such an honest human.. Thanks shehzad for one gem after the other
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Congratulations 400
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Amazing! I am loving every second of it!
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One of the better podcasts of TPE. Maybe a bit esoteric due to heavy terminology, for some people. But it expounds things strikiningly. You just have to pay attention. Kudos Shehzad
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Greatest podcast of all times
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Thank you for inviting my favourite person on my favourite channel, Shahzad!
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what a brilliant podcast!! 🙏🙏
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Wonderful show. Refreshing.
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Great video.... very very insightful and informative.
Great podcast with a superb guest. You are simply amazing Shehzad
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Shahzad, I'm a man of science and all my life, I wanted to create something like the cosmos. I remember watching Carl Sagan's Cosmos. Since I have background as filmmaker, I would gladly volunteer for a show on science on RUclips. Count me in. I'll be glad to be part of it. I know people who will willingly come forward.
Let’s connect over email?
I am at Thepakistanexperience@gmail.com
@@ThePakistanExperience Just sent you the email. Thanks for sharing your email. It will be a pleasure to be part of science awareness in Pakistan and being part of your mission.
what a podcast!! very well conducted 👍
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Loved this episode. Zakir has helped me a lot for my video project as well (which is running very late). Great episode ✌️
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Sehjad Bhai thank you for this podcast.
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@@ThePakistanExperience I am regular viewer of the pakistan experiences. I am Indian and from Rajasthan.nearby Indo Pak boarder area
I pity myself, i have still not seen that documentary. I will. Documentaries should be made on many ""tragic" figures of Pakistan
How do we donate to the fundraising for Nusrat project ?
& thanks for asking my question
Please make a podcast on what's happening with archive data in Pakistan.
Zakir Thaver is a very dedicated and hardworking man, but as a nation we seem to have this manufacturing default, where we can’t help ourselves but make gods out of nothing and put them on the highest singhasan, then bring them back down to nothing, it happens over and over again.
I’ll sum it up with a bit of poetry,
Hum zamanay main kuch aisay bhatkay
Keh abb tou apni bhi gali yaad nahi
Suggestion for the next documentary, I would say, unbiased and impartial documentary on mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani will be very interesting and should answer many question we are afraid to ask.
Shehzad, if possible, please invite Gen R Tariq Khan and take his insights on the militancy in KP, how to counter it, the flaws in today's IBOs etc.....
Very interesting guest. It is correct that anything that goes against averagely held common sense is very difficult to explain to mediocre minds anywhere.
On this channel , I always start videos by watching the audience questions
Then I watch the full videos few days later at my own free time ☺️
As long as you eventually watch the full video 😅❤️
@ThePakistanExperience 😄👍
As an indian and CHemical Patent specialist i have checked atur rehman patents and they were not granted for the invention he claimed. Basically he tried to claim chemical compounds and those seems to be obvious and hence rejected. Looks like he made lot of money through setting up centres and purchase of scientific equipment
This one makes it to my favourite episode.
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Salam was an absolute gem and just towards the end so heartbreaking that I as a Pakistani religious minority couldn't watch it to the end, just realising the sheer sorrow of your own countrymen being so against you based on faith
Yes AQ khan was a metallurgical engineer/ scientist and he brought stolen blueprints of centrifugal gas which is one of they key components of nuclear program. Dr Abdus salam yes i feel shame and guilt we didnt honor him and even dr AQ khan too.
China built the bomb using the blueprints AQ stole.Salaam had nothing to do with this project in addition he was against it.
کوئی مقابلہ نہیں ہے آپکا شہزاد غیاث ❤
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I am in usa me yahan doctor k pass gya kamar dard tha jb 2 3 maheeny theek nhe hua to dr kehta hai ap namaz parho thek ho jaye ga 😅😅😅 just Pakistani things
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Well done - 👍
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Salam, the true hero!!
The only guy who won the Nobel prize for your “glorious” nation, studied in undivided India. Since then you have not done anything in science and technology, something for you to think about!
1:09:18 I think this is "Saanson ki mala pe ". Shehzaad had mocked it in the past . However, I just love this song though it is an acquired taste.
Saanso ki maala was the song sung by Nusrat on Rishi Kapoor's wedding in 70s.
This bhajan(meaning devotional poem/song) is originally written (don't know whether composed) by Meerabai, a great Indian poet in 1500s.
I am not sure about the popularity of this bhajan pre and post Nusrat but he definitely gave it his own style.
Though Meerabai was a Krishna devotee, this bhajan can easily be interpreted to be dedicated to Niraakaar Brahman, the conception of The God which is a formless entity. This conception is The God is very close to the conception of Allah.
Meerabai is also a prominent saint in Bhakti Movement and I believe that there were many similarities, interactions, inspirations between Bhakti and Sufi movements. It could be something that can be explored in this podcast as well.
I have mocked sanson ki mala?
Ye mai nay kab Kia? I love the song
@@ThePakistanExperience I know aapne good faith me hi Kiya hoga....
You have done his mimicry a couple of time if I remember correctly.....shayad mujhe mock ki jagah mimic hi bolna(likhna) chahiye tha😬
if anyone knows where to find the Abdus Salam documentary, pls let me know (it's not on netflix)
Same cannot find it, I think torrent sy krni ho ghii.
it's on apple tv, google play, kanopy and Emirates.
Brilliant
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How disappointing it was that it wasn't bhola record
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Hi Shehzad, i have been following your channel for the last 1 month and i find the discuasions to be logical. Are you aware of a few such channels for India. I am able to find only the extreme ones - either they love everything about India and Govt or they hate everything.
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@34:30
Is غیب a problem word? Isn’t science about discovery? And if so then
غیب ہو گا تو discover ہو گا نا؟
Maybe it was in an attempt to “sell himself” to a certain audience but can that not be translated into Salam cleverly finding words to engage with a lot who’d otherwise not listen to science, period?
One reason that i think science communication on a platform like RUclips for Pakistanis is so difficult is because it is rarely ever engaging. I could be wrong of course, but when i was 10,I gained basically unfiltered access to the internet and the first form of media I ended up encountering were science channels like "it's okay to be smart", " Vsauce" Etc. And don't even get me started on animation like krzgesagt and ted ed. Many Pakistani educational channels feel dry and more like classroom lectures than an engaging video that someone can casually watch. Of course there's also that desi brainrot, where short, simple and shallow videos fare better than long form in Pakistan, but I still think there is some untapped potential in younger audiences (teens/preteens/young adults). It can at least light a small spark in some kids, like it did in me, to be curious about a topic and research it.
I liked the split screen video edit a lot, I would hate it if the entire video was like that
Rahat performs Qawali in most of his concerts. There are plenty of normies thinking they would hear his bollywood stuff, and are disappointed.
Make a documentary on archieves
Zakir did say in the end that he doesn’t know everything and he might have said something that wasn’t right. I just wanted to mention that Nusrat was not a traditional qawal, he was trained in Hindustani classical music and his genre of music was a fusion of hindustani classical and qawali which was already a bastardisation of traditional qawali. Traditional qawals like Aziz mian would not really ‘sing’ they would perform and recite. Also Nusrat did sing a lot of ghazals because he was a trained classical singer and for you Shehzad he also did an album of romantic duets with Madam Noor Jehan.
Thanks for this insight
Where can i find the documentary of Abdus Salam
on apple tv, google play and kanopy
why was salams documentary removed from netflix?, can it be released on youtube?
it's now on Apple, Google Play, Kanopy and Emirates. and counting...
@zakirthaver6232 can u post link to any one?
@@zakirthaver6232 how can v access on Google play?
@@zakirthaver6232 sir ive searched everywhere but could not find his documentary, why dont u release it on amazon?
more research into Indian classical music would have answered all your queries. qawwal generally (especially those from established gharaana) are not folk singers. They are well-trained in a formalized musical tradition. Raags have binding structures, and even though they allow for a lot of improvisation unlike the Western classical, but still, they follow a set of rules. Indian percussion is written and far more advanced in terms of time scales and rhythm than the Western counterpart. So I feel a little more appreciation of it will help. It is a proper science and I think reducing it to "just a feel thing" seems as part of the same rhetoric that if pyramids were made in Egypt then surely aliens would have made them.
Interesting
Maybe he did not understand the Questions or maybe you did not ask that tough questions.
Today this show was not kind of a “Pakistan Experience” style.
Wish you the best.
Bhola Record academic version
Ask him to visit Dr Javaid Ahmad Associate Professor Services Hospital Lahore......He has some footage of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan with his spiritual teacher Syed Saddar Ali Shah Bukhari r.a......very informative footage he has...
Do you have their contact or any way to get in touch with them?
Let’s connect over email?
I am at Thepakistanexperience@gmail.com
ruclips.net/video/egnOun2fHbc/видео.htmlsi=AZEwsDRqel9KqLts here is the link of the video of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan with Dr M Javaid Spiritual Teacher Syed Safdar Ali Shah Bukhari.....Dr Sahb posted the video of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan about 2 days back..@@ThePakistanExperience
philosophy is very important in education it doesnt have to western philosophy we can teach eastern philosophy
Sir invite Sindhi intellectual Nasir memon in your podcast
Have you heard of Homi Bhabha or Vikram Sarabhai? These of many other physicists opposed the traditional thinking and brought in the sea of change in the scientific world in India. From ISRO, BARC to ATIRA these gentlemen redefined nationalism and patriotism. Wonder why Pakistan didn't find such people? Did patriotism get so easily replaced by jingoism? Was that the idea behind forming a separate nation?
Was he saying hells yea or hail zia in the end??
Hells yea
Bhai sahab isme bande ka koi kamaal nahin hai!
Sab Nusrat ki Nusrat hai!
I consider him as my spiritual refuge.
My daughters call him dadaji only!
Bhola Record Pro Max!
Really enjoyed the podcast; great content! Just a suggestion: try not to generalize all Pakistani doctors under one umbrella. While there may be a few with outdated or misguided theories, the majority, especially younger ones, are incredibly smart and progressive. For instance, I was at a brunch yesterday, and the level of conversation was outstanding.
Regarding Shahbaz Gill, the majority support PTI because they don’t align with other options-it’s a personal choice. Shahbaz Gill happens to be the only PTI representative here, and APPNA invites representatives based on the situation.
I feel that in your bias against PTI, you tend to filter anything related to PTI as dumb, stupid, or cult-like. While there might be some who fit that description, the majority do not, and stereotyping PTI followers into one category isn’t fair.
As for the podcast, it was excellent! Please produce more content like this.
Zohaib Sahab inviting Shehbaz Gill makes it stupid. If you don't like ridicule stop doing ridiculous things.
Please jaldi jaldi post kiya karo😢
48:28 too good 😂😂😂
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as sajjad jani says nusrat sahab rehmat ullah use to forget lryics
Kafi vocabulary note krli for IELTS, thanks
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40:14 WOW😮😮😮
Aap b qwaal lgre hen aj BTW brillant content as always
Came to hear Bhola record’s Thailand stories. Disappointed!
lol
This is the longest atheism ad 😂
bro, who are you!
shehzad thinks we throw soda cans in trash bins
I hate qaiser baja as much as the next person but salam did accept funds for the trieste institiute
I dont think salam is a fraud but lets not forget the qadiani movement is a death cult
14:10 Thomas Edison as well?
47:29 Jan jati hy jae jumla na jae
Yes!
'19:25 🤣🤣'
Obl?
Osama bin laden
This doc was mediocre at best this guy is smokin that strong
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Yo Joe rogan 🔥🔥
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Theocratic state dude. What else did you expect this country would turn out to be?
@thepakistanexperience shehzad i am willing to act and make this sketch with you i don't care not married no kids aint scared of anyone. commented twice on tcm video against clerics and blasphemy etc. surprisingly no one did anything instead got likes!