Is this the Creepiest Bigfoot Audio Ever? | Bigfoot: The Road to Discovery
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The Road to Discovery continues in episode 2, where audio evidence is analyzed. As the Olympic Project has studied the Sasquatch Nest Area for years, the audio they have recorded from there is chilling and might be the creepiest audio ever recorded.
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Has anyone ever taken these recorded vocalizations to a zoo with gorillas and chimpanzees to find out how they react to the recordings?
That is a great idea!
Aw maaaan.
Good idea, my dogs went on alert when they heard the recording. Then they got scared.
Wouldn't be surprised if they acted like every other prey species
Nice! I like it.
Eli is so funny, I love the story about “mouse camp” 😂
lol 😂 poor Eli 😅
Yeah nobody there was laughing at his jokes 😂. Like the crossbow joke was funny.
Twas a modest mouse camp...
@@fly_speck_cafe best kind of 🐁
I loved the birthday card! 😀
Those "snort grunts" sound like a wild boar.
I love Eli's poncho. Nice to see someone rocking one of those. I thought i was the only person who wore them.
That sound is frightening! You guys are so brave.
@SmallTownMonsters Hey guys... When I was a kid living in Shelton Wa, at a place by the name of Lake Limerick.. We used to sneak out to a nearby lake by the name of Cranberry Lake. we also used to take off through the woods sometimes even through the brush at night just for adventure and because it was scary. One cold December night we took off with our firearms and the neighbor kidd and hiked out to the back end of Cranberry lake, owned at that time by Simpson Timber Company but we had to cross a treefarm to get there. We got to the back end of the lake, pretty confident and laughing and joking around and then we heard it.. I cant explain it very well but have heard other recordings that sound similar. It wasnt high pitched but lets say there was an upper range and a lower range and then what sounded like talking but not any words that sounded familiar.. It was like an insane chatter.. It almost sounded like an angry man speaking japenese in a really low voice but it wasnt Japenese.. it was just weird and insane sounding followed by woops. That was when I was 17, the year was 1983. Fast forward to 23 years old... My buddy and I and a couple of young ladies we knew decided to hike out to this same lake one summer night. We built a fire next to the lake.. As soon as we had the fire going we heard that same sound again. At first I was freaked out.. the others were in a panick. then my buddy calmed down and we finnaly got the girls calmed down.. I wanted to see what this thing was. It moved around the shore from the other side of the lake twoards us making noise the whole time, yelling, screaming and chattering. when it got closer we finnaly chickend out and started making our way out, BUT.. it followed us. It never got within a hundred feet of us (I dont think) but at one point I could smell it. This happened one other time at a place called the Stair Case in Olympic National Park close to lake Cushman.. but it was far off. Growing up and hiking the woods and tree farms hunting and fishing We heard alot of things... Tree knocking was common as well as woops. Almost everytime we went out and alot of times picking brush we would here the woops. In fact we used beat logs against the side of trees in response, I even had an old baseball bat I used to carry around to hit rocks with that I would also hit trees with, But I never thought that the woops or the tree knocks could be Sasquatch.. We also found several areas where there were stands of small pines and you would find several of them pulled together with bedding inside. Infact I was about 11 at the time out picking chantrells with an adult when I saw the first one and thought it was odd.. the other thing that was common was piles of brush pulled together and you could see where something had bedded down. and in 2019 we were in the Lamar Valley close to a place called Bison Peak. We pulled into a place called the Lamar Buffalo Ranch and Hiked up Rose Creek to the old wolf pens and up past there I saw my first track.. Im still not convinced that it wasnt a doubled up grizzly track but it sure was big and it sure looked human.
As I have never seen one I am still not 100% convinced BUT growing up I heard storys from the native kids from the Skokomish Indian reservation as well as some of the Old timers I fished with about bigfoot. It seems like back in the 1970s and early 1980s they were a lot of people sighting them on Mcewin Prairie road and Johns Prarie rd.. Between Johns Prarie rd and Cranberry Lake there was an old old homestead. My understanding is that the older couple that lived there used to see a bigfoot pretty regular as he would come in and eat the apples in there orchard that and one of my moms friends that worked at the counry club with her had a story of almost hitting one one night on Mcewin Prarie rd coming back from town. SO... I'm pretty sure that whole area is to developed now BUT I would bet that the Olympic mountains and all that land skirting them between shelto and the coast (Matlock way) would be prime if there is such an animal.. Cool channel guys.. It's been a longtime, I havent been back up in that area since the late 1980s and live in the San Francisco Bay Area now.. It's fun watching the videos and being able to pick out all of the different plants The Huck and Salal brush (Salal Berries taste nasty) One of you videos you were talking about Devils Club, I hated that plant.. anyway cool channel , go git em..
You may know of this already but if not then listen to "The Sierra Sounds" that were recorded in the 70s and tell me what you think.
Your first story has a lot in common with the sounds that were recorded there.
Ohhhh ya! Where can I get a walking stick and the wallet? Or multiples maybe.
Thank you.
Enjoying your video. 🙂🌻❤️
When you found the “nest site” did you find any hair ? And if so was it DNA tested ?
They found hair samples and tested it. It's in one of their other episodes, check it out, don't remember which one. The one before this one I think referenced DNA testing.
Wow, thats the longest scream I've heard yet, very creepy, I wouldn't want to be out there when that happened. Crazy, thx
It would definitely be interesting to hear! I would be in!
This has to be my favourite STM video of them all 👍
Any sceptics need to watch STM Bigfoot videos and especially this one.
Chimp Fit has to be a primate as Chris states.
There is something out there waiting to be captured on a trail camera 😳
Good work Eli 💪
I think the audio evidence is more important than many people think. It's hard to fake this stuff and it either is or isn't specific local animals. And, if it isn't, what is it?
For me, I think the audio recordings are some of the most interesting evidence. I have listened to various bigfoot audio clips from different sources and times. I find enough similarities between them to convince me that something unknown is yelling its head off in the woods. I've heard similar singing in different recordings here on RUclips.
I hear the Ohio howl in a part of your recordings.
Exactly. It’s incredible they haven’t gotten more interest from wildlife biologists and scientists. Damn shame actually.
@@t.l.1610 I agree.
And thats exactly how everyone should be doing audio for this subject. Categorize everything you know is there and then the unknowns (dont label it sasquatch) and itll likely get a lot more attention.
When hiking in the woods during warm months, bring along a small bottle of lavender essential oil. It takes care of stings instantly! It's also antiseptic. Great episode...thanks!
#things only a woman would say
@@fastinradfordable Haha, maybe, but, it beats walking around swollen & in pain
yep, some guys appear to prefer the manly pain. Lavender oil really is the bomb when it come to stings and itching. It also repells insects and maybe even testosterone poisoning. :) @@kimerickson1353
@@fastinradfordableMaybe but it’s sound advice. Also repels ticks. Thing I use it for is burns though. Slap some on a fresh burn & you’ll be amazed. Stops hurting & heals very quickly.
Have you ever done any research in Whatcom County Wa?
Are February nest maybe due to babies being born?
Whether it is relevant or not, this chimp sound is almost exactly what Les Stroud reported hearing himself during one of his adventures that got him involved in the subject. I find it interesting. Nice job with this episode guys.
Yeah, that was somewhere in remote Alaska. The fascinating part for me was when he said that the creature took off running an appeared to have covered hundreds of yards in just a few seconds.
@@nadir1378humans can cover hundreds of yards in seconds.
@@fastinradfordableWorld record 100 meter dash is 9.58 seconds.. that’s the fastest human to ever live running 100 yards (full football field) in about 10 seconds….
We will never know what really taunted les stroud on that notable day, but these audio clips.. I can't see them as just sasquatch audio, but maybe something else?
Great video. I've always wondered if you put a camera on a limb above you pointing down if you would get one on camera.. someone would have to play monkey to get up the tree! Lol😊
The variety of vocalizations is wild.
Great production. The 3-D image of the track was absolutely amazing. One of the sounds you caught reminded me of the Sierra Tapes! Thanks!!!
Can't Beat This Another Rainy Night In Glasgow With The STM Crew 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hi from FALKIRK in the central belt 👋👋🥃🏴
The way my cats chitted and hissed at the recordings. They’re invested.
I noticed my dogs reacting to certain recordings. Especially the one that came from the country. Not scared. Just alert. Ears up and eyes locked on my phone.
@@momadogymy dog was low growling at my phone. He only does that when he's scared. But my cats hissed and left the room. Very interesting.
I love the work you guys are doing. It's refreshing to see a group of people out to discover evidence of sasquatch/bigfoot without all the drama and gimmicks.
they re not finding jack like all the other programs they all never find anything
in there camp they need to set up cams way before the camp so that way when they are watching them they can get them on cam and night vision they are all doing
everything all wrong , wheres the drones and the list goes on and on of what they could be doing ...........take note they have the power to rip a humans head clean off
and they dont have heavy fire power
Evidence?
@@bentucker2301exactly. Casting tracks and getting audio isn’t going to prove the existence of anything
We throwing shade Finding Bigfoot !
@@Anonymous38572 finding Bigfoot is entertaining, but hard to take the show seriously. I think the actual researchers like cliff are serious though. The network is responsible for all the dramatics
I enjoy stm very much over trashy dramatized shows, love what you guys do, thank you
AGREED,....Plus those shows are governed by the Federal Communications Commission and they are ruled by the Shadow Gov't. so,.....the truth will always be stifled.
I agree…but Finding Bigfoot is like the crack of reality tv shows. I can’t get enough of Bobo and the gang.
💚👋Eli, I love the manner in which your interview with all 3 researchers. Widen perspective of what drives them to conduct their field research and yet bring some humor while out in the dark forest. I'm going to watch it again and probably several more times💯👍😁
Blessings to you, family, all crew of STM/BTT HAPPY HOLIDAYS 🎄🎁🎅⛄️
Thank you for the kind words!!!
Another Hall-of-Fame production! Thank you Eli and the whole STM team. ❤
This is THE channel for the journey to discover Sasquatch
I second that.
Facts!
It isnt. Howtohunt is the #1 bigfoot channel in the world period.
How to hunt come on! Steve’s a goof!
How many have to be seen before people realize they've been discovered ? I've seen two , really up close . They exist .
I love hearing bigfoot audio recordings, there so unique, thanks for all you do.
Great work, Eli. Really enjoyed these Road to Discovery shows. The OP are doing fantastic work and it should be commended/respected. I think they have the right approach and mindset to research and the subject. And, they are getting results.
This is not on the bigfoot subject but has Rebekah Slick had that swollen lymph nodes on her neck looked at?
Noticed also
Do you guys think they are making nest sights for breeding time or birthing areas?? Those singing calls could be mating calls!!
Thank you each and every one if you guys. The people out there working putting the foot working. I am greatly appreciated and I love each. And every single skip from you guys. God bless each and every one. You do happy holidays to all of you. All of you man and for big foot too🌲🎄🏔
Shouldve peeled out. Wasps probably wouldve known not to mess with you.
😂😂😂
I have watched several of these videos, and this one is superb. Thank you for sharing your discoveries.
1:08:12 XD
I think this is one of the best videos you all have done in a while... Plus, I don't know if you realize, but the woods where you are are very quiet...Question, do you ever smell imprints etc? If they are smelly, you'd think they would leave a smell behind.
Smelling prints would be a windowlicker move. These beings’ prints have emf levels that are dangerous. Don’t believe me? Do your own research.
Many enthusiasts & researchers alike have long speculated & hypothesized that they aren't necessarily always disgustingly smelly- no more than a wild extant great ape (eg. gorilla, orangutan, chimp, or bonobo), relict hominid (eg. australopithicus, Homo erectus, Neanderthals, etc.), or a considerably hairy feral human might be.
There have been many who suspect that the horrendous stink that's often associated with eyewitness accounts & unnerving feelings while outdoors could be due to the Sasquatches (possibly only the males, but that's obviously yet to be determined) possessing glands that excrete an odorous compound when stressed, such as when they are seen by an unfamiliar human or sense that one has wandered too close to them, a member of their group or family unit, their territory or hunting grounds, or perhaps if one has accidentally interfered with their hunt.
I may be mistaken, but I think that male gorillas have a scent gland that excretes a strong odor when they are stressed.
That's part of what makes this species so utterly fascinating; it appears that they could be our closest living evolutionary relatives, yet it seems that they might possess traits that are only shared with other primates that split from our branch on the taxonomical tree a ridiculously long time ago.
I'd love to find out exactly how that managed to happen!
The chimp fit and snort grunts are 100% without a fucking doubt some form of primate. Spectacular.
Considering I have encountered and interacted with 'them' while researching Colorado Bigfoot territories with Marc Abell back in 2018, [ documented on film ].......I'm very impressed with all that you folks do. I know Sasquatch are real and hope y'all experience and document your encounters as we did.
With your passion and tenacity, I sincerely believe you too will soon be rewarded. Besides, the world needs to see,......THEY ARE REAL !
GOOD LUCK AND KEEP UP THE FANTASTIC RESEARCH.
ps- we have pics too
Can we find that movie here on youtube?
Show the film or shut up
Hello. How can we see the pictures and hear your recordings? Thanks very much.
Now maybe the chimp like sounds….. could be an infant Sasquatch reacting to a parent coming back with food or for being away for a time.
Didn't think about that ok.....I'm listening
Very good documentary: you stick to the topic, facts and research! The sound recordings are definitely extraordinary.
The nests they discovered, they thought they were constructed between February and March and I've been thinking if bigfoot were constructing nests for sleeping surely they would be all year round? Just a thought, but what if the time line of the nests is for Mating season or Birthing season?
Chris is a very stable, excellent researcher, he has my vote, i like his approach, he is the guy i will listen to, i trust him, just a good group and team, excellent production, keep em coming,
id love to see more Cryptid stuff, Hellhound, Rake, or just interesting stuff
Bravo 👏, and as always well done to the entire crew! Absolutely without question the best Bigfoot channel around. It’s not always action packed and that’s why this is good because it shows how dedicated everyone is even without signs and they don’t fabricate anything. Love it
💚👋The audio picked up is amazing. Also, when viewing several times, I always find something I missed and heard while watching. Please continue your search one day it will all come together. I believe that the Sasquatch group knows you all as well💯👍they are intelligent and perspective 😁😉
Eerie sounding! Love the audio guys approach to the calls. Very thorough. Convincing too.
Another SUPER video Eli. I loved it. Thank you for showing me and learning along the way with you. Until another video stay safe
Very good material as always but don’t think I missed the fart on 1:08:14 😂😂😂 as natural as it can be .
Intriguing. Have you guys considered taking out someone who can sing, and I mean truly sing, and have them sing something melodic and that spans a couple of octaves, maybe some Puccini or Verdi. In addition to any other calling, have someone sing. See if you get singing in response. It's worth noting that all animals appear to be interested in human singing. Primates, dolphins, elephants, lions, etc. seem to take notice of singing. I've never searched for cryptids, but I would certainly consider giving it a try.
They wear Gillie suits cause its fun!! 😀👣
It is fun! ☺
@@RebekahSlick 😀
@@RebekahSlick ive always wondered about that experiment, that was pretty slick. 😉
Another STM treat coming up 🥳🥳
Does anyone know what app there using for the 3d scans would love to know
@HHGaming1836 We all have different scanning app preferences, but some of what we use regularly are ScandyPro, Scaniverse, Polycam and Capture. I believe the one I filmed Todd using that day was the Capture app, but I'm not certain as it was over a year ago. Hope that helps. 🙂
@@RebekahSlick thank you so much good luck we all love y’all’s work and stay safe out there👣
Anybody got a timestamp for the creepy audio? Or was it just “Shane” lol-helllppp
Sunday is my favorite day now 😁
You guys need to investigate the fishing cabin on snelgrove lake Ontario canada
Excellent work guys. The vocals really pumped me up.
Wasps are ugly bad🐝 those suckers on the ground were huge! Sorry you got stung Shane. Chris's audio recorder strapped on his head is an excellent hands-free way to record sounds, loved it! Enjoy seeing Rebecca on these expeditions (sorry if her name is misspelled). She's really brave wearing a ghillie suit venturing off into the darkness.
Vocalization recordings were amazing, thanks for these. The singing vocals sounded like they were calm, happy and relaxed. No humans around to disturb them, that's my guess.
Truly appreciate the comprehensive audio catalog that has been done over a span of few years. Great job Olympic Project team. Everything is so very well detailed and organized. Your dedication is very respected. Chris's 'Chimp fit' is authentically similar to primates, a primatologist would very likely agree.
Love Eli's signature poncho he's usually seen wearing.
those wasps was like ... ATTAAAAACK! i gotta admit, it looked like it stung. 😆
Arse daggers
I hate those ground nests! My record is 7 stings. I was dropping a tree and next thing I know, I'm getting lit up like the 4th of july. My arm pit, under my hard hat, under my saw chaps... I ran down that hill at warp speed, left my saw up there, lost my glasses... it was a bad day.
Damn the 3-D scan of that print was impressive
Thanks
Is the 3d scan a regular app anyone can download?
Yes and there's many different ones.
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@@socalsquatchwhat’s the name of the app? I don’t always have plaster with me but I always have my phone
@@tattooedladi1241 Capture. We use a few different ones too.
That April vocal sounds like the Sierra sounds, ..the female
Sending our best regards from Scotland 🏴 guys 💙awesome work with even better results ✌️👹💥💥💥GTC
Hi from FALKIRK in the central belt 👋👋🥃🏴
Thats my moms birthday......she don't mess with squatches though. I'm still down for a listen.
That’s the first time I ever heard a big foot audio described as being chimpanzee like with those sounds and they most definitely do sound like a chimpanzee. I’ve never heard anything like that in all the videos I’ve ever watched on Bigfoot
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD EPISODE. SQUAD UP TO WATCH EARLY.
I'd love to go looking for sasquatch, out in woods surrounded buy nature.
theres a wired sound at 1:08:13
I mean ,these ppl are serious.Way out in the boonies and recording those crazy sounds?this is almost unexplainable and definitely top tier research with their analysis and professional approach
Watching this episode again waiting for the premier. Excellent presentation and kudos to Rebecca for a job well done on the camera photography. Great to see quality images. Thank you.
Thank you, @michaelrussell13. Glad you enjoyed it! ☺
HEY! I HAVE A QUESTION TO YOU WHO MADE THE CAST. IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE A 3D PLASTIC PRINT VIA THE 3D SCANNED PICTURE?
Im not even completely a Sasquatch believer, but your filmmaking iss just really good
Great video! Thanks!! Merry Christmas you all!!
When it comes to bee stings for anyone that don't know you can take cigarette tobacco mix a decent pinch of tobacco with your spit & apply to the sting so it sticks to your skin. It will pull the stinger out if embedded, reduces swelling & pain. Its not gross to use your own saliva it don't need much lol even if you're not a smoker it's still handy to have the tobacco in your first aid for stings when you're exploring in the forest & hiking. My mom always used it on me as a kid when i would get stung & i was back outside like it didn't happen in less than 10 mins. Plus you can leave some tobacco for an offering if you believe in that all that stuff.
Bigfoot or not there is something making those wierd noises.. the "singing" was eerie but those "snort grunts" are terrifying.. would not want to run into whatever made that noise..
GOD BLess YOU ALL!!!!!!!
Hi Eli. So I watched the video again and in the one section at the nest area this was when just the recorder was there no people anyway, it was all the chimp sounds going nuts. Could it be that it’s a birthing area and they go there February March to have babies and it gets very vocal at that time???? It almost sounds like a female screaming and than lower vocals. Maybe I’m thinking to deep into to this but that’s what it seems like to me. 😳😳😳.
I don't know! Thanks for watching!
@@theeliwatson Thanks for your brief answer. Until the next video
@@theeliwatson It was a good video. Thank you
If they went hunting during the winter surely they would have more chance of finding footprints etc... On a personal note. It's all nonsense..
Wow the audio sounded great….very interesting notes 😊
What do you guys make of the vocalizations the Expedition Bigfoot folks supposedly recorded in WA that were in S3 about halfway through the season? The ones that sounded as haunting as what you have here? I can't tell if they made them up for dramatic effect and showrunning material to keep the show interesting disingeniously or if they could be genuine. I'd love to know your thoughts on them.
Me too!
Like we can't hear that air flow and lighter spark! Lol
I love what you all are doing and have been following your channel , those vocalizations were amazing gave me ripples for sure just Awesome stuff
Great show, great channel. From B.C and I have def heard things that I cant explain while camping. My only comment is this... why would Bigfoot not use animal calls to haunt? we do as humans while hunting. Makes sense to me they would too.
That's a gr8 idea...about looking through all the owl sounds and looking for the sounds that don't fit. Higher end sounds ..
Funny, he doesn’t sound Scottish. 😅 that’s a lovely gift.
Scot land....my land
That is some crazy thick brush!
I like what he said about confirmation bias. A very honest approach.
Mr. Eli Watson, probably one of the best doc's I've seen! Congrats! Hats off to the Olympic Project and their work!
Thanks for the kind words!
Has the Olympic project ever considered things that happened are paranormal?
No, because they're trying to find & offer evidence that's valuable to science.
Right now, science isn't interested in the "paranormal".
It'll probably take another 25-50 yrs or so before science advances to the point where it's finding evidence & developing theories that either support or don't support the alleged paranormal phenomena that are suspected by some to be associated with Sasquatch.
We can only take it one step at a time.
And right now, the effort just needs to focus on getting science to take the idea of Sasquatch as a species of relict hominoid that may be our closest evolutionary relative seriously.
RUclips TOTALLY screwed up your video with long 15-second ads. Literally every 4 or 5 minutes. The worst ad experience I’ve ever had on this crappy site.
Not your fault, of course.
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Eff it. I had to give up at around 47:00. Ad frequency was way too distracting.
This series so far feels as instructional as it is entertaining. If someone wants to learn some serious bigfooting skills, this is the place. There's no group more serious about researching than the Olympic Project. NAWAC is on the same level. Great work, Eli & company!
I don't find these 'vocalisations' to be "chilling". They're interesting and worthy of much greater analysis. I get frustrated when people talk about this subject and make it appear 'supernatural' or in some way spooky - making everything to do with fear and superstition. It will never be taken seriously by the mainstream scientific community until this stops happening. Try "fascinating" instead....
45:15 No, not with these types of animals. We haven't tried to interact with these types of "animals" for thousands of years. The best thing you can do is "not try", take that as you will, because we've instead spent the last few millennia distancing and in effect "trying the opposite" of what it is to "try", communicate, interact, with things of this super nature. There's a whole paradigm shift that this guy needs to make if he ever wants solid, clear, concise, and blatant world-changing and nearly his own life-threatening proof of this race we've been eluded by for centuries now. I'm not sure about this part but I believe that some part of why many other races do not simply show themselves to us is because each time they have, the other people-- the people that are here, will show up at your door and tell you that you have to deny everything you just saw.. or else. That's why there's so many hoaxes. Millions of $ go in to disinformation.
Being a retired RN, couldn't help but notice the lump on Rebecca's neck - was this a reaction to being stung, perhaps? Hope she's OK!!
The Kentucky DNR has invented listening devices to monitor turkey gobbles. (Declining numbers study.)
It records 24/7. Its mounted high in trees and records sounds from far away.
Sounds like a perfect application for this site.
The hunting public crew interviewed the team doing this.
Yesss I saw that episode on their channel, I definitely want to get one of those
Elk could have broken that string 7 ft up with antlers
When you find yourself dealing with angry bees simply hold your breath and walk away … im 50 years old and have lived most of my life in east Tn . I was told this when i was about 12 years old and ive ben in hundreds of bees nests and ive never got stung while holding my breath . Not once !!!
Great video guys keep up the faith and the good work I really enjoy your videos I watch them all multiple times my family thinks I’m crazy for believing that they exist and I really don’t care it’s on them not having a open mind I’d love to see one
Rub Some Dirt On It & Keep Moving. Hardly A "Disaster"
Good on these guys having a belief and sticking to it✅️
Ok so your a Scot,that means your at least 80% a great guy, but falling for Bigfoot, come on ya wee joby.
At 40:03 the sounds are called samurai sounds because they sound oriental, also the main reason you never see too many footprints is because Sasquatches walk through the trees, some indigenous people call them " tree walkers" they travel allot from tree to tree like apes do.
there is a video of Squatches swinging ima tree and one swings down to catch a younger one who was having trouble moving from one tree to the other,
it is shadowy but you can still see them. they walk through so when you do see one print its because they stepped down from a tree and went up into another or they walk through dense underbrush or over rocks. they are masters of camouflage,
so they can be a few feet from you and you would never see them, unless they want you to.
They probably smell you guys from miles away. That's why we can never get footage.
Love your videos and documentaries! Can’t wait to see the next one!
The man claiming chimp fits and Sabe vocalization are so similar , they give you pause , alluding that sabe are simians , he needs to square that with Dr Ketchum’s extensive Dna….