Vienna Ensemble Pro - Review/Tutorial

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @diegozayrik5969
    @diegozayrik5969 11 месяцев назад +7

    I've been watching Vepro videos and this one is the best. You explain in 25 min what others can't explain clearly in hours. Thank you.

  • @landonp629
    @landonp629 Год назад +3

    Rather than running VePro, I find it much more helpful to load-up a fully disabled template, and just enable and disable each instrument as I need them. Template doesn't rely on another software connection, no need to load up tons of GB of ram with samples, 95% of which I won't actually use every time. As much time as VePro might save, it still requires loading up potentially a hundred GB of samples into RAM.

  • @odysseasliakosmusic
    @odysseasliakosmusic Месяц назад

    Thank you for this wisdom, Obi Wan.

  • @kevrochlin4544
    @kevrochlin4544 3 года назад +4

    Absolutely fantastic explanation/ guide/ review... whatever you want to call it. Where would we (I) be without creators such as yourself to show in detail what a product of interest is. Thank You.

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      Thank you very much for letting me know. It makes me happy knowing it helps others make better informed decisions

  • @EndlessMeece
    @EndlessMeece 3 года назад +3

    There are no words for how useful/helpful your videos have been for me during the past few months.
    Thank you sooo much for all of your finely detailed contributions to the body of knowledge around the subjects of orchestration/recording/sampling/MIDI instruments.

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      Thank you very much. This made my day. Wish you the best.

  • @gorgeousgeorgeous-GG
    @gorgeousgeorgeous-GG 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for this. I use VEP7, it’s been a saviour, but find it a little inflexible for my needs. Your set up is really interesting and worth giving a go. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the good work!

  • @J.Livermore
    @J.Livermore 2 года назад +1

    Excellent!! thank You for the walkthrough !!. Much appreciated Sam!!

  • @iftekharulanam
    @iftekharulanam 2 года назад

    Beautiful music and video. This is the first time I am convinced that I need VEP. Thank you so much. Your presentation is perfect in my opinion. May God bless you. 💚

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  2 года назад

      Thank you very much. Yes, it is a great tool, needed by most at a certain stage.

  • @dragonwarden3285
    @dragonwarden3285 3 года назад

    Haven't watched this yet, will watch later I've heard of this library before, but just wanted to say it's good seeing you and your videos again! I hope everything is well!

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад +1

      I'm good thanks. I've had a bit of a cold but better now. This isn't a library though, but more of a tool.

  • @psa104
    @psa104 2 года назад +1

    First of your videos I watched. Very well done, and timely. I was wallowing in the details of VEP and wondering how best to set up instances for large and small ensembles. You have good ideas that differed from what i would have thought was the "right" way, but I can see the advantages. Your Epic Orch short piece was excellent. Now I see you have other helpful videos to dig into. Thanks!

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  2 года назад

      Great! Thanks for your feedback! I try to create the videos I'm looking for myself, and I felt the VEP videos was lacking a bit. Enjoy, and happy new year!

  • @RobertWildling
    @RobertWildling Год назад

    Thank you! Very helpful to see how it is done! :-) And in my particular case it was even more helpful because you showed your EW setup!

  • @D76-z2h
    @D76-z2h Месяц назад

    Great tutorial as you explain the concepts very clearly. Would be good to know more about the licencing and whether a single instance will cover two setups like most of us have. Especially if one setup as two machines slaved together, Whether that requires multiple purchases of VE Pro. Cheers.

  • @ricshaw4358
    @ricshaw4358 Год назад

    This is an extremely helpful overview.

  • @martijnvanbeek4387
    @martijnvanbeek4387 2 года назад

    Great info in this video, taught very nicely and thus much appreciated! Keep on going in this manner:)

  • @Marcus-ym2kg
    @Marcus-ym2kg 3 года назад

    Thank you, this video has helped me a lot in deciding weather to purchase VEP or not. I'd wish VSL had such an informative video for beginners on their website.

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack 3 года назад +1

    well done! If i get right, it comes soon a comparison between Opus vs Kontakt vs Vsl ;)

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      Perhaps not. I hope my videos so far have given enough info 😊

  • @OleJ-DK
    @OleJ-DK 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for sharing, very helpful.

  • @LindaMissad
    @LindaMissad 3 года назад

    Thank you for another great video, Sam. Even though your explanations are very good, I still find that I'm confused when you talk about different outputs. The concept of routing still baffles me a bit.
    Maybe watching again will help :).

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад +1

      Yes, that one is actually quite a pain. It probably makes more sense if you have the program, but i also offer a simpler solution with many sections going to just one channel and then you don't have to mess with the outputs at all

    • @LindaMissad
      @LindaMissad 3 года назад

      @@SecondTierSound I think I have a scaled down version of Vienna's "server" software that came with something small I bought from them. Everytime it pops up I close it down.
      Maybe I'll take a closer look at it now that you've explained it a bit.

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      I didn't know they have that. Yeah, give it a look

  • @wiseoldfool
    @wiseoldfool 11 месяцев назад

    Very helpful, well presented. Subscribed.

  • @M4T
    @M4T 3 года назад +1

    At last I understand what VEP is ! Thanks for that :)

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      You're welcome.

    • @jazzdude7014
      @jazzdude7014 3 года назад

      sorry, the real advantage is loading VEpro +Libraries into a Slave computer and spread RAM ressources and HD Space. He doesnt show , why 90% of VEPro users bought it, today a slave machine is maybe 1000 $ (no Graphics card needed, works with integrated Graphics, like AMD RYZEN APU Gen 5). I hope STS (sorry dont know your name) adds this in a later Video. Usually people run 32GB (4 Ram bars) so just build another PC with 32GB and use the free perfomance in the main PC. My suggestion, the faster CPU (singlecore fast i mean) use as MAIN PC and run all the SYNTH VST Plugs into this.
      The Slave for Kontakt/Sine/EW Play and so on, for heavy Ram usage.
      Start the Slave before the main PC in the morning and just let it run. Much more conveniant to work. DAW crashes? no problem, the slave sits there and waits for re-connection.
      My setup is 64GB on Main and 128GB on Slave. Both AMD Ryzen with lots of cores (12+12 and 8+8)and over 4GHz.

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      @@jazzdude7014 Thanks your input. This is valuable info. I do mention in the video a network of computer is a very good idea, but don't have that setup myself currently and there are still many benefits with just one computer, for example workflow, savingtime and less crashes and no loss of data
      Cheers!

  • @MichaelSmith-on1ig
    @MichaelSmith-on1ig Год назад

    VE Pro was a game chancer for me! You just have to spend time once to set up a template.

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductions 9 месяцев назад

    Nice video. I just got into Vienna this week and they have the free version of Ensemble and so far I am impressed with it. I am just getting started with orchestral music, so I do not see a need for the Pro version at this time.

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  9 месяцев назад

      No need to get anything you don't need😊. And many people just have a faster computer with lots of memory. That's another way. Happy composing! Cheers!

  • @antekketna7080
    @antekketna7080 Год назад

    Fantastic !!! tutorial. Thanks a lot

  • @FrankDeBaere
    @FrankDeBaere Год назад

    I also agree with the alternative setup, it is indeed much simpler and it works well for me on Win11 32 Ram too. In each instance I have one Kontakt instance, I have Singel articulations of that instrument arranged by channel number, this way I can use my Keyswitches perfectly. I work in Studio One. It would be nice if it were possible to use Folders at the instances in VEP, now we can only place folders at the channels.

  • @benbilan
    @benbilan 2 года назад

    Thank you! I appreciated your tips and a very useful and practical video tutorial. Well done!

  • @JeffWardMusic
    @JeffWardMusic Год назад

    Very useful, thank you!

  • @JmlMusicNorway
    @JmlMusicNorway Год назад

    Brilliant tutorial!

  • @modernman4269
    @modernman4269 3 года назад

    Thank u the oboe sounds amazing

  • @Steven_Beddall
    @Steven_Beddall 2 года назад

    Great video, very informative thank you!

  • @Evangelionism
    @Evangelionism 2 года назад

    Wow! Thank you for this telling review! VEP is certainly on my map now! Just a matter of saving up for an actual desktop rather than using this laptop. ;-;

  • @DanielNicuCretu-ys9vq
    @DanielNicuCretu-ys9vq Месяц назад

    Gracias.

  • @vitaliano1978
    @vitaliano1978 Год назад

    Thank you Sam for the great Video!
    Is this Epic Orchestra 2 that you use in the beginning of the video ? I believe it comes as a free addition with it?

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  Год назад +1

      I think it is epic orchestra that comes with the purchase

  • @sonicstoryteller
    @sonicstoryteller 2 года назад

    New subscriber very useful great Channel best wishes from UK England 🙏👍 phil

  • @kenwafu5526
    @kenwafu5526 9 месяцев назад

    s anyone using Halion 7 with VEP? In its standalone version there is no issue, but using it with VEP it is always claiming missing samples even if they are located where they should be, and over 42 instances of Halion in VEP, the Steinberg plug in starts to loose its saved configurations. Is it because we work on Apple M2 machines?

  • @music_creator_capable
    @music_creator_capable 3 года назад

    Great!

  • @ChrisKennedyChris
    @ChrisKennedyChris 3 года назад

    Interesting approach with the alternate setup. Have you tried freezing tracks or rendering in place? I wonder if this approach could solve the headaches with those features in the conventional setup.

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      Thank you for your input. Well, freezing or rendering is only really a solution after you have written a track entirely. Before that, you want the channel and instrument available, loaded and ready to go, because there is nothing that stops creativity more than having to load/unload tracks, or disable/enable tracks etc. But my setup works well, and vep also offers some interesting options, and some plugins can purge samples. That all helps, but I find the best way is to create a template that covers most bases, all tracks activated, and then perhaps more tracks less often used that are disabled.
      Cheers

  • @TatePictures
    @TatePictures Год назад

    can i also rout audio to the server and back for CPU heavy effect plugins like reverbs ?

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls 3 года назад

    Great video! Your mic is at saturation a bit which makes earphone listening a bit fatiguing

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад +1

      I'm sorry. I'll look at my settings for next time

    • @MePeterNicholls
      @MePeterNicholls 3 года назад

      @@SecondTierSound thank you. 😎 love your video content though. So useful

    • @emanuel_soundtrack
      @emanuel_soundtrack 3 года назад

      he mixed exclusively for me can hear it on my ipad at 6 am when in the kitchen, sounds perfect

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      @@emanuel_soundtrack Hehe, I agree the mic got a little hot at times, but I am happy it worked out well for you Emanuel!

  • @rafaelhernandez5550
    @rafaelhernandez5550 Год назад

    Hi, I would like to know why Vienna Ensemble Pro 7 use a lot of internet data? I have Macbook pro Master and Windwos Slave. Thanks

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  Год назад +1

      I don't know. I didn't know it did. I guess it is using WiFi to connect, that is probably what you see.

    • @rafaelhernandez5550
      @rafaelhernandez5550 Год назад

      No, my MacBook Pro have the WiFi off. Thanks

  • @martin-raison-music-composer
    @martin-raison-music-composer Год назад

    Thanks for the vid! Just to clarify, when using VEP7 the samples are still loaded on the RAM of your computer right?

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  Год назад

      Yes, unless you use another computer.
      The good thing about it is that your DAW is not "involved" so that crashes are less frequent, and saving doesn't take so long.

  • @artphinney8830
    @artphinney8830 Год назад

    Do you trouble shoot a problem in VE Pro? Please answer and I would go into detail

  • @ehudsh
    @ehudsh 7 месяцев назад

    How do you affect the velocity in such a crazy way. Do you have a special control keyboard?

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  7 месяцев назад

      Not sure what you mean exactly, but all midi keyboard can be adjusted. Otherwise it is all about how hard I hit the keys😊

  • @anissteevan6676
    @anissteevan6676 2 года назад

    "Pain in the" .... Haha Gotcha 😂🤠😂

  • @GiulioPirondiniMusic
    @GiulioPirondiniMusic 3 года назад

    Hi I'm wondering: does VEP need an USB dongle always connected to work (like Cubase, I guess..)? Thx for this overview!

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад +1

      I would ask vsl. I'm using my dongle that comes with cubase. But i think you can use ilock as well, and there might be other options

    • @GiulioPirondiniMusic
      @GiulioPirondiniMusic 3 года назад

      @@SecondTierSound I got two more questions: 1. How long does VEP takes you everytime load a new big orchestral template? 2. Is there a way to load a VEP session (say in a huge template) with all instruments unloaded (actually in stand-by) waiting to be loaded up just when choosing the relative track? - something like Dynamic plugin load in Logic (I don't know in Cubase)..in that way it would be an instantaneous loading right? Thank you so much!

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      1. Depends on your setup. It takes a few minutes on bigger templates.
      2. Depends on your instrument plugins, and isn't controller by your DAW when you use VEP. VSL instruments can be controlled by VEP this way. But you can deactivate any instrument in VEP.

  • @lattetown
    @lattetown 3 года назад

    Unfortunately the demo for requires a usb license key to work, without it it keeps crashing and the kontakt instruments won't play and the UI is messed up. It's 2021, who wrote this buggy licensing crap?

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  3 года назад

      Sorry you have a hard time. Personally it has been really stable, but every setup is different.

  • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
    @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 2 года назад

    Is it Apple M1 Natively Compatible?

  • @gurumajuindonesia
    @gurumajuindonesia 3 года назад

    can i have the VEP template for OPUS sir??

  • @rafaelhernandez5550
    @rafaelhernandez5550 2 года назад

    Hi, Thank you for this great tutorial of VEP 7 can you please let me know how you enlarge the FX on the Mix window ? also I would like to know what kind of router did you use for two computers? Thank you again,

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  2 года назад

      Do you mean enlarging the view, or actually seeing the effects? You can click and drag the corners to change the size. Actually, in this case, it is all on the same computer. A normal router should work between two computers on the same network, better with cable rather than wifi, and then you install the standalone on the other computer.

    • @rafaelhernandez5550
      @rafaelhernandez5550 2 года назад

      @@SecondTierSound I think that you fixed my problem becasue I was ranning in both PC and Mac the server so I need to run the standalone in my Pc and server in my Macbook pro M1. I will try when get home. Thank you very much.

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  2 года назад

      Let's hope😊
      Make sure to run the standalone on the server though.

    • @rafaelhernandez5550
      @rafaelhernandez5550 2 года назад

      @@SecondTierSound All working great now. Thank you very much

    • @SecondTierSound
      @SecondTierSound  2 года назад +1

      Great to hear!

  • @johncillo88
    @johncillo88 2 месяца назад

    Man only saving at the end of the day is risky bro