Honestly I get the brotherhood think their stopping something terrible from happening but seeing the ghoul gun them down after they mowed down the NCR remnant felt really satisfying
The brotherhood are just like a kid with a gun. They won't accomplish anything, but they will probably hurt someone. House is right, they are just ridiculous.
The Brotherhood in this scene are a pack of bullies. Looking at all of them running along smiling and slapping each other on the back as they slaughter the NCR soldiers like some school field trip.
And the other two protagonists are pretty great too! Lucy nails the Vault Dweller in a Wasteland vibe (her first speech to the Ghoul is perfect lmao). And Maximus is adorkable yet tough which is a fun combo too!
I love how Cooper doesn’t look at the brotherhood group as he whistles to get their attention, and proceeds to empathize and provide his tiny, yet, *crippling* knowledge of their power armour. He only focuses on loading the armour piercing rounds into his gun, and then when he inevitably shoots after explaining, he doesn’t look directly at the target.. it’s only when he is correct about his statement, which ended up killing the Knight, that he looks them dead in the eyes. (And with a smile to boot) It’s such a fucking power move, and he knew the shock factor prevented any common sense from the dummies in armour.. lmao. Love the show, and I love Walton’s work with The Ghoul
@@TheSpellingErrrror If they have time to fire blindly in the dark, they have time to switch on a headlamp. Just one of them had to have that bright idea (pun intended).
@@Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu He does have previous experience with power armor though and fully counted on megacorps being too lazy and cheap enough not to fix the issue. He was right.
@@LordSerion I do wonder if T-51 armor fixed the issue since I remember the chest piece being different. T-60 is based on T-45 which had the weakness and was rushed according to old lore, but T-51 is what they used to defeat the Chinese army. So I wonder if the Ghoul tries to hit the spot on a T-51 suit in season two and it just bounces off.
@@LordSerionI figure since the T-51s are the good armor, most of them would have been in China when the bombs dropped, with the T-45s and the T-60s being set aside for the national guard.
I just realized that the bullet shown in this video is a miniature anti tank round. More specifically, an AFPDS, armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot.
Power armor was never meant to be perfect protection, it is meant to augment the wearers strength, allowing them to carry heavier weapons and more kit. The armor is just on the frame to provide some protection because the suit compromises agility.
@@furrycow9263if you look further down the comment someone points out in Lore the armour flaw was actually known by the manufacturers but didn't really want to fix it due to profit margins.
For anyone who says that the power armor flaw doesn't make sense or was something that should've been 'fixed', just remember that even our modern day tanks are still susceptible to regular armor-piercing rounds and anti-armor weapons. It's still just some metal plating at the end of the day. Which in the Fallout universe does largely make the power armor almost invincible when 99% of all threats are people using makeshift guns will bullets likely sourced from whatever person knows how to use a reloading bench. Meaning that people like The Ghoul who actually even have high-calibre rounds designed to punch through power armor are the 1% exception.
And also as the Ghoul is a re-fall Marine Veteran who actually trained in that armor long before they did and probably read the 10/20 level tech manuals. He knows that armor better than these guys ever will.
Personally my problem is more than the flaw is described as a welding flaw, rather than an actual design flaw. The think with a welding flaw is that it is a quality control issue, that can be solved, by just actually ask your worker to weld well, rather than do a shitty job. It is inherently solvable, and it is something that might not even affect all of the unit produced because it something that is not inherent to the way they are build.
Makes sense the armor had that flaw. T-60 was merely an upgrade kit for T-45. Mitigated some problems but did not really fix them. Now had they used T-51....well better results.
Actually the T-60 is more advanced then the T-51, the X-01, X-02, and Hellfire power armours are the ones that are more advanced then the T-60 In terms of how advanced power armour is it goes Raider, Excavator, T-45 (the first real mass produced combat power armour), T-51b, T-60 then a massive jump in armour quality to the X-01, X-02, and hellfire armour (basically the enclave stuff is way better quality and protection)
@@Bruvofsteel Advanced, maybe. Better, have to disagree. That is also the reason in most games, t-51 has better stats. Even in fallout 76, 51 is better stat wise. Course 60 may have more variants. Update: having just checked the official website, we are both right. 51 pinnacle of protection, 60 more advanced.
@ in most games like 4 the t-60 has better stats then the t-51b it does depend a bit on mods but stock models the T-60 in lore is stated to be superior to the T-51b, the X-0 models are far superior to the T line though
@ before the end of the world t-60 was produced after the T-51b as the most advanced wide spread power armour (X-01s was around but they was very rare) T-51b was mainly an upgrade over the T-45 as it added air tight seal on the armour as well as a coating that protects against laser weapons better, the T-60 was the next project and kept the air tight seal and had even greater protection then the T-51b, however the world got nuked not long after the t-60 was deployed domestically over the states
Pre war Bud Askins was in charge of their design flaws, and the bombs dropped before they could be updated. Post nuke no one but someone prewar would know about the weakness. No one in the wasteland is a threat against them in a firefight from what we've seen so they likely wouldn't know of the weakness. They didn't seem to understand when The Ghoul announced said weakness.
they probably had no idea of the design of the armor which was lost in time and assumed everything was perfect. until the ghoul showed them it was all wrong. and even worse. it didn't leave anyone alive who could explain what the flaw was.
@@sarkaztik3228the flaw was probably fixed in the t51b, but I think the t45 was way cheaper. So for the t60 (meant for riot control), the military didn't need that flaw fixed so they made the t60 by updating the t45 because it was cheaper that way. It's my theory.
@@sarkaztik3228 There was a big banner showing the observatory to be the NCR Headquarters 😬 but I'm with you I really hope this isn't the last of The Bear.
As a guy who just got my Army retirement orders after 3 war tours going back to 2003, thus was ine of those scenes that evoke some amazing emotions and makes me realize that us old guys are The Ghoul in a way and seeing these young ignorant people indiscriminately mowing people down hiding behind Combat Armor just really have no idea that there's always someone who has experience that will absolutely make them feel insignificant haha. One of the great shows 👌
At first, I thought this scene had a plot hole, even though it was badass. Why didn’t the Ghoul do this to Maximus during their fight in the market? Turns out, I missed that the Ghoul had time to load his guns with armor-piercing rounds this time.
Unlikely. There is the fan theory that this chapter of the Brotherhood was formed through a merger with remnants of the Legion, hence the Roman-esque names and the religious cultism behaviour.
@@paulheenan9098 Tbh a more outwardly fascistic eastern brotherhood would be a perfect mirror to the egalitarian western brotherhood, a showdown that NEEDS to happen in at least one piece of Fallout media
Knight Titus's display against the Yaoguai and the Elder's lamentation about the state of the brotherhood couldn't make things obvious enough. Truly these guys were a joke.
If I remember correctly in lore the T51 was an actual improvement on the T45 but it came late in the war before Alaska was liberated. The T60 was basically just a rushed improv job of the T45 in response to domestic riots and strife which was used more to intimidate the populace than it would have been used on the battlefield. Hopefully we do see some T51 models in Season 2
@@blacktemplarbarachel3387 Agreed. The Enclave got the short end of the stick with the crappy helmets and armor vests but I'm putting that down to the limited costume budget. Hopefully we some more diversity in power armor etc next season
Ima be real, while it would have ruined this great scene, there really was no reason they couldn’t just mow him down onsight, if not after his first shot rang out.
My best guess is that the rounds are a sort of small, mass-reactive explosive on a timed delay. Basically, the round penetrates, "wakes up" in a matter of speaking, and them blows up a second later. It's kind of the same thing in Warhammer 40k with Bolt weapons.
He was toying with Maximus back in Filly he knew he didn’t k ow how to operate the T-60 which is why he was mocking him about him trying to get him from the high ground, then his line “you drive that thing like a fucking shopping cart” after his foot got stuck in the wood, and then he cuts the life support system while saying “rule number one read the manual” he tries to get away and The Ghould hits him with the tow-hook from the tow truck. The Ghoul could of killed him there but it was more of him having fun with the situation and mocking Maximus
He more than likely was out of armor-piercing rounds. If you rewatch this scene, the ammunition Cooper is shown using is armor-piercing (as it has a darker tip than standard ammunition due to it being specifically designed to pierce armor). So he was likely out of those rounds when he faced Maximus in Filly. Also, Cooper had worn T-45 in Alaska, which is how he knew of the flaw (which he called Bud out for earlier in the show). He didn't know if the T-60 model had the same flaw until he shot the Brotherhood Knight with an armor-piercing round and the Knight died, proving that the same flaw from the T-45 suit was present in the T-60 suits.
Not that I wanted the ghoul to die, but when invading an enemy stronghold with orders to kill all on site. Why would they all stop, hold their fire in unison because a ghoul (brotherhood of steel kills ghouls) they don’t know and isn’t in brotherhood of steel gear talked. Should have been a different situation, cuz in that one they would have just kept gunning him down as they moved forward assaulting the base.
Well imagine you were gunning all of em down and you have already made it halfway down the hall and you hear a whistle from behind you. I kind of feel like they were just caught off guard especially since he's just kinda chilling there.
According to Shelter he has a Charisma of 7, although I bet he took the terrifying presence perk. That should be enough to pass a skill check on leaving him to monologue with a high enough speech.
And these "knights" don't even remember that those armors have headlamps. Eastern BoS' quality truly fell under Maxon huh? Lore and story wise, i actually kinda like it lol
honestly one of the things 76 did that was their version of Roger maxson, from holotapes he advocates that they have to star recruiting non-military personnel or they will die out, and that they have to be careful about who they trust, its less straight-up hate for ghouls and more 'we don't understand them well enough yet to trust them in our ranks' which has evolved into 'ghoul bad' say what you want about 76 but their roger maxson seemed like a cool guy. i really like comparing idealistic roger maxson to pessimistic and paranoid arthur maxson
People that didn't play the game and love the show can't comprehend how good it is to the people who have played the game. It's only going to get better.
On one side, a veteran US Marine. On the other, a bunch of wannabes who probably barely knew how to read the tech manuals and act as if they are invincible in the armor. The match was decided before the Ghoul fired the first round. THe only way it would have been worse for them would have been if the Ghoul had been a Ranger.
You'd think that the technologically genius BOS would be smart enough to have a guy with a flashlight on a mission. Also turn around from the guy that kills your chestplate so that he can't fuckin shoot your chestplate
I love that with all of its funding and in the midst of the most devastating war in history, the US military still decided to skimp between the T-45 and T-60. It's no wonder the T-51b is still the best pre-war armour
ok, bit of plot hole, mistake... he knows the flaw in the armor, but when Max is confronted by the Ghoul in the town, he kicks the ghouls butt, and don't get killed...
Not a plot hole, not a mistake. He wasn't expecting to go up against power armor when Max showed up and didn't prepare to fight it, his bullets weren't going to punch through. Here you see him loading an armor piercing round because he knows the Brotherhood are here and he needs that round to get through. That's the difference, he used a different bullet designed to kill armor and didn't have it earlier
@@VegetaLF7 just rewatched the scene wihere Max condonts the Ghoul in Filly, 46 min into the episode in the Ghoul runs out of ammo and reloads... he OBVIOUSLY could reload with your " armor piercing round" and shoots at Maximus with ZERO effect...like I said PLOT HOLE
I’m pretty sure the flaw could only be exploited if your using armor piercing discarding sabots, something you probably won’t encounter in the wastes lol
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the only scene in the series that dissapoint me - Why would brotherhood just stand and wait till the GHOUL finishes his speech? They made that ghoul just overpowered
I really liked this series, but this scene was ABSOLUTLY effing dumb. They did an amazing job in general of sticking with Fallout lore and theme, but this was just over the top dumb plot.
I get enclave remnant vibes here. The ghoul solos the brotherhood like the enclave solos the legion in a manner of speaking if you side with the Legion and Lanius takes over.
i like the show so far but looking back there is an absurd amount of plot convenience to move the story along. The Ghoul pulls the fusion core out the reactor, killing the lights. One of the guys in power armor literally screams out "I can't see shit" even though all three of them are wearing a t-60 Power armor helmet with a spotlight built in that they just don't turn on for some plot convenient reason, i guess went the lights went out so did their brain cells. And even though they can't see, apparently Ghoul can see well enough to fire off six shots, each bullet getting it's kill with not a single shot wasted. That's bad writing.
You could argue that the shock factor is there. They got a weakness they did not know existed exposed. They realised they were less unbeatable than whay they originally thought. Cooper was taking psychology in count here, giving them many things to process. The knights panicked, thus fired indiscriminately without hearing to reason. They were shocked to learn about the weakness.
The knights we've seen have largely been a bunch of morons. The Elder thinks the BOS is at its lowest and is just embarrassed by their ineptitude. Its established they suck and that this sort of thing can happen.
imma be honest, im glad i dont have to deal with that weakness in fo76. but im bummed out that the NCR remnants were taken out since i can never get enough of their ranger armors.
When the knight falls ypu see the realization on the squires face The Ghoul could have killed him earlier and doesnt shoot at him. I dont think The ghoul planned to kill him here. Amazing.
Power armor was never welded. It is cast and fitted, as anyone can tell by just looking at it. This show could not be bothered to do the smallest research on even this small detail. In addition, if the Ghoul knew this trick since his military days, why did he not use it on Maximus in their first battle? Terrible writing, they need a lore continuity advisor and script doctor STAT.
The show literally explained that Cooper wore the T-45 model in Alaska. The Brotherhood is shown wearing T-60. That's why he says "I wonder if they fixed that in this new model.". That's why he didn't use it against Max in Filly: Because he didn't realize that the flaw in the T-45 armor also exists in the T-60 suits UNTIL THIS SCENE. Also, maybe do a double-check because a welder was used on power armor DURING THE OPENING CUTSCENE FOR FALLOUT 4.
@@thenightmaricsenpai524 You literally did not understand the criticism. Read it again, and if you fail to comprehend it once more, please attempt to get a refund for your 'education'. Everyone will thank you for ceasing to waste our time. TIA! In addition, the welder was being used to *repair* damaged armor in the field, not to manufacture it (this happens at factories). Please try and pay attention to details, they are important. It will be less embarrassing for you if you do, I am sure.
@@BobSmith-kk4kppower armour is a few cast parts, all mounted on rubber-alloy exoskeleton, that’s true. However, the body armour kinda has two sections and I think that’s where the welding takes place.
The decision to shift away from the more heroic-leaning Brotherhood of Fallout 3/New Vegas and firmly bring them back to being fascist jocks and goonish zealots in stolen tank suits was one of the best choices this show made.
Honestly I get the brotherhood think their stopping something terrible from happening but seeing the ghoul gun them down after they mowed down the NCR remnant felt really satisfying
Tbf, this NCR remnant arent heroes too. They killed a lot of innocent people back in the vault.
They're a shower of fascists. So yes, the ghoul wrecking them could hardly be better.
The brotherhood are just like a kid with a gun. They won't accomplish anything, but they will probably hurt someone.
House is right, they are just ridiculous.
The Brotherhood in this scene are a pack of bullies. Looking at all of them running along smiling and slapping each other on the back as they slaughter the NCR soldiers like some school field trip.
@@limemobber that pretty much sums up the brotherhood lol. it's safe to say the brotherhood probably did the samething in the commonwealth.
Walton Goggins as the Ghoul is the best thing about this show, he steals every scene.
He's basically the protagonist from the way I look at it.
Walton Goggins is great but he does not make that show alone. Ella Purnell does great work as well.
And the other two protagonists are pretty great too!
Lucy nails the Vault Dweller in a Wasteland vibe (her first speech to the Ghoul is perfect lmao).
And Maximus is adorkable yet tough which is a fun combo too!
I just love the character and actor
@@deletdis6173he switches from protagonist to antagonist a lot though out the show
I love how Cooper doesn’t look at the brotherhood group as he whistles to get their attention, and proceeds to empathize and provide his tiny, yet, *crippling* knowledge of their power armour. He only focuses on loading the armour piercing rounds into his gun, and then when he inevitably shoots after explaining, he doesn’t look directly at the target.. it’s only when he is correct about his statement, which ended up killing the Knight, that he looks them dead in the eyes. (And with a smile to boot)
It’s such a fucking power move, and he knew the shock factor prevented any common sense from the dummies in armour.. lmao.
Love the show, and I love Walton’s work with The Ghoul
Touch the grass.
The way it only lights up when their weapons are fired is an excellent cinematic choice and would be terrifying irl.
Sure, but the T-60 helmet has a headlamp on it.
Yeah, but if an oversight
@@furrycow9263 yeah but they didnt really have enough time to react or thought of turning it on to see
@@TheSpellingErrrror If they have time to fire blindly in the dark, they have time to switch on a headlamp. Just one of them had to have that bright idea (pun intended).
@furrycow9263 not necessarily. We've been shown that the BOS are incompetent. They just hired anyone interested in power.
200+ years of being a wasteland gunslinger and having been an actual trained US Marine pre war vs a bunch of neo-feudalist cosplayers.
It is effectively the young lions being put in their place by the older lion.
@@stevejamieson8468 Yeah, and their place is 6 feet under.
@@LyzexD
The only thing that could have been worse in this scenario for them would have been if Cooper had actually been an Army Ranger instead of a Marine.
Soldier: did you get him?
"I cant see sh*t!"
Classic
Maximus realized he played him like a fiddle much more than he thought.
Both id say
Maximus learned how lucky he was
I love that slight grin he does when he says “I guess not.” It’s like he was expecting it to fail and was surprised that it actually worked
Its implied he never tried it before
@@Pakotugudugudugudugudugudugu He does have previous experience with power armor though and fully counted on megacorps being too lazy and cheap enough not to fix the issue. He was right.
@@LordSerion I do wonder if T-51 armor fixed the issue since I remember the chest piece being different.
T-60 is based on T-45 which had the weakness and was rushed according to old lore, but T-51 is what they used to defeat the Chinese army.
So I wonder if the Ghoul tries to hit the spot on a T-51 suit in season two and it just bounces off.
@@JakeBaldwin1 It's possible, I do not know how common T-51s are though.
@@LordSerionI figure since the T-51s are the good armor, most of them would have been in China when the bombs dropped, with the T-45s and the T-60s being set aside for the national guard.
I just realized that the bullet shown in this video is a miniature anti tank round. More specifically, an AFPDS, armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot.
Its explosive ap round. After hit you can listen small explosion inside Armor.
@@petrpucik so a bolter round? dayum
so the knight's chest basically became red goo?
That'll turn one's insides into corned beef
@@NewPaulActs17 He gave his armour a nice shiny new interior paint job!
you know that the brotherhood already lost when The Ghoul point out the flaw in the armor and killed that one guy wearing it.
I mean, yeah, that's like, literally the entire point he's giving
Power armor was never meant to be perfect protection, it is meant to augment the wearers strength, allowing them to carry heavier weapons and more kit. The armor is just on the frame to provide some protection because the suit compromises agility.
@@furrycow9263if you look further down the comment someone points out in Lore the armour flaw was actually known by the manufacturers but didn't really want to fix it due to profit margins.
And now "Are you fuckin' with me" makes a whole lot more sense.
Turns out the ghoul needed the serum to respec for armor piercing. "Oh I didn't realize we were in the end game"
For anyone who says that the power armor flaw doesn't make sense or was something that should've been 'fixed', just remember that even our modern day tanks are still susceptible to regular armor-piercing rounds and anti-armor weapons. It's still just some metal plating at the end of the day. Which in the Fallout universe does largely make the power armor almost invincible when 99% of all threats are people using makeshift guns will bullets likely sourced from whatever person knows how to use a reloading bench. Meaning that people like The Ghoul who actually even have high-calibre rounds designed to punch through power armor are the 1% exception.
And also as the Ghoul is a re-fall Marine Veteran who actually trained in that armor long before they did and probably read the 10/20 level tech manuals. He knows that armor better than these guys ever will.
Personally my problem is more than the flaw is described as a welding flaw, rather than an actual design flaw. The think with a welding flaw is that it is a quality control issue, that can be solved, by just actually ask your worker to weld well, rather than do a shitty job. It is inherently solvable, and it is something that might not even affect all of the unit produced because it something that is not inherent to the way they are build.
Best part with this scene is that it makes you realize he spared maximus earlier.
Or maybe he had no armor piercing round with him
I think he was out of armor piercing ammo. He probably picked some up when he realized the Brotherhood was also looking for the target.
He knew that Maximus had no idea what he was doing and decided to mess with him
Paramount+ Master Cheeks: ❌
Amazon Prime Ghoul: 👍
That was never master chief
@@firehazard4065 And never will be.
@@thefirstofthelastones8952 agreed
@@firehazard4065 Na bro masterchef is an amazing cook
When [Terrifying Presence] comes natural
I like how none of those dudes in power armor turned on their headlights.
The ghoul is badass gunslinger
Makes sense the armor had that flaw. T-60 was merely an upgrade kit for T-45. Mitigated some problems but did not really fix them. Now had they used T-51....well better results.
Actually the T-60 is more advanced then the T-51, the X-01, X-02, and Hellfire power armours are the ones that are more advanced then the T-60
In terms of how advanced power armour is it goes
Raider, Excavator, T-45 (the first real mass produced combat power armour), T-51b, T-60 then a massive jump in armour quality to the X-01, X-02, and hellfire armour (basically the enclave stuff is way better quality and protection)
@@Bruvofsteel Advanced, maybe. Better, have to disagree. That is also the reason in most games, t-51 has better stats. Even in fallout 76, 51 is better stat wise. Course 60 may have more variants. Update: having just checked the official website, we are both right. 51 pinnacle of protection, 60 more advanced.
@ in most games like 4 the t-60 has better stats then the t-51b it does depend a bit on mods but stock models the T-60 in lore is stated to be superior to the T-51b, the X-0 models are far superior to the T line though
@@Bruvofsteel I thought T-51 was meant to be better than the T-60 lorewise it was just easier to produce T-60 in mass than the T-51
@ before the end of the world t-60 was produced after the T-51b as the most advanced wide spread power armour (X-01s was around but they was very rare) T-51b was mainly an upgrade over the T-45 as it added air tight seal on the armour as well as a coating that protects against laser weapons better, the T-60 was the next project and kept the air tight seal and had even greater protection then the T-51b, however the world got nuked not long after the t-60 was deployed domestically over the states
1:21 I have a feeling this fusion core will be important soon.
The only thing i can think of is Lucy is going to use Titus's armor that she and maximus left near vault 4
@@fukaze2021Or Cooper because unlike Lucy and Maximus, he had training to use this power armor.
But I don't think that will be the case.
Well he knew about that flaw all along yet he decided to spare Maximus in the beginning. Kudos.
Maximus stood there waiting for Idiot Savant to go off lol
Did none of the engineering proctors inspect the armors? Like, it should've be a easy fix
Pre war Bud Askins was in charge of their design flaws, and the bombs dropped before they could be updated. Post nuke no one but someone prewar would know about the weakness. No one in the wasteland is a threat against them in a firefight from what we've seen so they likely wouldn't know of the weakness. They didn't seem to understand when The Ghoul announced said weakness.
@@sarkaztik3228they knew , but it wasnt fixed quickly due to profit margins
If it was easy it would of been fixed in the T60 model since the Ghoul was wearing T45 power armour.
they probably had no idea of the design of the armor which was lost in time and assumed everything was perfect. until the ghoul showed them it was all wrong. and even worse. it didn't leave anyone alive who could explain what the flaw was.
@@sarkaztik3228the flaw was probably fixed in the t51b, but I think the t45 was way cheaper. So for the t60 (meant for riot control), the military didn't need that flaw fixed so they made the t60 by updating the t45 because it was cheaper that way. It's my theory.
RIP NCR
RIP Shady Sands
NCR still exists outside of Moldaver, though? Was it ever said that was the last of them?
@@sarkaztik3228 There was a big banner showing the observatory to be the NCR Headquarters 😬 but I'm with you I really hope this isn't the last of The Bear.
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RIP what? What about new vegas NCR
Most likely wiped out. It's implied, but have to wait till season 3 for confirmation.@@Adamp_109
As a guy who just got my Army retirement orders after 3 war tours going back to 2003, thus was ine of those scenes that evoke some amazing emotions and makes me realize that us old guys are The Ghoul in a way and seeing these young ignorant people indiscriminately mowing people down hiding behind Combat Armor just really have no idea that there's always someone who has experience that will absolutely make them feel insignificant haha. One of the great shows 👌
He definitely has a high Perception stat.
At first, I thought this scene had a plot hole, even though it was badass. Why didn’t the Ghoul do this to Maximus during their fight in the market? Turns out, I missed that the Ghoul had time to load his guns with armor-piercing rounds this time.
Single most badass character in Fallout
Dude was chaining Four leaf clover and Grim reaper's sprint.
Walter gave us a masterclass in how to run a VATS Agility build.
I only got one thing from this scene and it's that plot armor is the only kind that really counts.
Master Cheeks: But no one knows what my emotions are behind this helmet.
Brotherhood: *Bet.*
So it's dark and the knights have no idea how to use the vision settings in their helmets. Yup, the BoS definitely hit rock bottom.
And they just stood there letting the ghoul talk rather than just shoot him immediately. Are these guys really from Maxsons chapter??
Unlikely. There is the fan theory that this chapter of the Brotherhood was formed through a merger with remnants of the Legion, hence the Roman-esque names and the religious cultism behaviour.
The brotherhood by the time of the series is a joke. A bunch of US army cosplayers with no idea what they're doing
@@paulheenan9098 Tbh a more outwardly fascistic eastern brotherhood would be a perfect mirror to the egalitarian western brotherhood, a showdown that NEEDS to happen in at least one piece of Fallout media
Knight Titus's display against the Yaoguai and the Elder's lamentation about the state of the brotherhood couldn't make things obvious enough. Truly these guys were a joke.
Maximus was under the impression that he was working with the, "Good guys." Can only imagine his disappointment.
This reminds me of the scene from "A Bronx Tale" where Sonny locks the door to the bar and then delivers that iconic line "Now yous can't leave".
If the experience in the nuclear wasteland were not enough... he is also a war veteran😅
Ghoul is the cad bane of fallout
If I remember correctly in lore the T51 was an actual improvement on the T45 but it came late in the war before Alaska was liberated. The T60 was basically just a rushed improv job of the T45 in response to domestic riots and strife which was used more to intimidate the populace than it would have been used on the battlefield. Hopefully we do see some T51 models in Season 2
That’d be cool but I’m also hoping for some custom raider suits or maybe even Enclave suits if we’re lucky. But I’m mainly hoping for a deathclaw lol
@@blacktemplarbarachel3387 Agreed. The Enclave got the short end of the stick with the crappy helmets and armor vests but I'm putting that down to the limited costume budget. Hopefully we some more diversity in power armor etc next season
This happends when play high critical build and do all side quest before endgame.
I’ve got spurs that jingle jangle jangle.
Ima be real, while it would have ruined this great scene, there really was no reason they couldn’t just mow him down onsight, if not after his first shot rang out.
The brotherhood just forgot they had helmet lights I guess 😂. Walton goggins is a beast tho
To be fair, they haven't exactly been keeping the suits in working condition.
This scene was amazing
Can anyone explain why does there's delay in the ammunition that's used by the ghoul?
My best guess is that the rounds are a sort of small, mass-reactive explosive on a timed delay. Basically, the round penetrates, "wakes up" in a matter of speaking, and them blows up a second later. It's kind of the same thing in Warhammer 40k with Bolt weapons.
I can't help but think that a magnet or some kind of induction heater would also be quite effective
One thing i didn't quite get, If Ghoul knew about that weakness in the armour, how come he didn't try it when he fought Maximus?
i guess he was playing with his prey as he often does
He was toying with Maximus back in Filly he knew he didn’t k ow how to operate the T-60 which is why he was mocking him about him trying to get him from the high ground, then his line “you drive that thing like a fucking shopping cart” after his foot got stuck in the wood, and then he cuts the life support system while saying “rule number one read the manual” he tries to get away and The Ghould hits him with the tow-hook from the tow truck. The Ghoul could of killed him there but it was more of him having fun with the situation and mocking Maximus
@@sooners2037 ah yeah, nice analysis
@@ioanevans6763He knew about the weakness in the T-45 Power Armor. He didn't know if the T-60 had the same flaw.
He more than likely was out of armor-piercing rounds. If you rewatch this scene, the ammunition Cooper is shown using is armor-piercing (as it has a darker tip than standard ammunition due to it being specifically designed to pierce armor). So he was likely out of those rounds when he faced Maximus in Filly. Also, Cooper had worn T-45 in Alaska, which is how he knew of the flaw (which he called Bud out for earlier in the show). He didn't know if the T-60 model had the same flaw until he shot the Brotherhood Knight with an armor-piercing round and the Knight died, proving that the same flaw from the T-45 suit was present in the T-60 suits.
Not that I wanted the ghoul to die, but when invading an enemy stronghold with orders to kill all on site. Why would they all stop, hold their fire in unison because a ghoul (brotherhood of steel kills ghouls) they don’t know and isn’t in brotherhood of steel gear talked. Should have been a different situation, cuz in that one they would have just kept gunning him down as they moved forward assaulting the base.
PLOT ARMOR and/or bad writing.
Well imagine you were gunning all of em down and you have already made it halfway down the hall and you hear a whistle from behind you. I kind of feel like they were just caught off guard especially since he's just kinda chilling there.
According to Shelter he has a Charisma of 7, although I bet he took the terrifying presence perk. That should be enough to pass a skill check on leaving him to monologue with a high enough speech.
Imagine censoring cuss words in a scene where there's active gunshots and blasts😂
Americans are fucking nuts
blood and gore is acceptable but swearing is not. what strange priorities
Love this bit
Great series
when someone points out the weak spot is it too late to run😂
And these "knights" don't even remember that those armors have headlamps.
Eastern BoS' quality truly fell under Maxon huh? Lore and story wise, i actually kinda like it lol
honestly one of the things 76 did that was their version of Roger maxson, from holotapes he advocates that they have to star recruiting non-military personnel or they will die out, and that they have to be careful about who they trust, its less straight-up hate for ghouls and more 'we don't understand them well enough yet to trust them in our ranks' which has evolved into 'ghoul bad' say what you want about 76 but their roger maxson seemed like a cool guy.
i really like comparing idealistic roger maxson to pessimistic and paranoid arthur maxson
@@blaumoth7360In other words, sounds like the very founder of the Brotherhood would be rather disappointed to see how it is now
People that didn't play the game and love the show can't comprehend how good it is to the people who have played the game. It's only going to get better.
On one side, a veteran US Marine. On the other, a bunch of wannabes who probably barely knew how to read the tech manuals and act as if they are invincible in the armor. The match was decided before the Ghoul fired the first round.
THe only way it would have been worse for them would have been if the Ghoul had been a Ranger.
You'd think that the technologically genius BOS would be smart enough to have a guy with a flashlight on a mission. Also turn around from the guy that kills your chestplate so that he can't fuckin shoot your chestplate
I love that with all of its funding and in the midst of the most devastating war in history, the US military still decided to skimp between the T-45 and T-60. It's no wonder the T-51b is still the best pre-war armour
Short of armour piercing rounds on the day, perhaps. Or just didn’t want to slice up a learner driver.
Or he just realized that the flaw that he'd seen in the T-45 suits he'd used in Alaska were present in the T-60 suits
ok, bit of plot hole, mistake... he knows the flaw in the armor, but when Max is confronted by the Ghoul in the town, he kicks the ghouls butt, and don't get killed...
Not a plot hole, not a mistake. He wasn't expecting to go up against power armor when Max showed up and didn't prepare to fight it, his bullets weren't going to punch through. Here you see him loading an armor piercing round because he knows the Brotherhood are here and he needs that round to get through. That's the difference, he used a different bullet designed to kill armor and didn't have it earlier
@@VegetaLF7 just rewatched the scene wihere Max condonts the Ghoul in Filly, 46 min into the episode in the Ghoul runs out of ammo and reloads... he OBVIOUSLY could reload with your " armor piercing round" and shoots at Maximus with ZERO effect...like I said PLOT HOLE
I think the ghoul took some cateye from new cegas to give himself a boost as well lol
This actor plays an almost identical role in Maze Runner lol
This is the embodiment of a badass character
You have to ask yourselves one question. Do we feel lucky? Well, do yas? Punks!
Boyd is pissed after all these years.
They did the botherhood and the power dirty in this show
They do relealize that all models of power armor have a built in headlamp right?...😒
Why didn't he do this to Maximus in Ep 2?
Did they forget about their headlamps???
Dunno why the knights didn’t just run on their head lamp
most advanced suit of armor and it lacks flashlight
They gun down everyone else immediately but let this guy talk?
Why didn't he remember this when fighting Maximus?
Seems like they would have found the flaw along time ago. But I guess they have to give the Ghoul character something to be different about.
I’m pretty sure the flaw could only be exploited if your using armor piercing discarding sabots, something you probably won’t encounter in the wastes lol
If only there was a helmet on the t-60 with a spot light
You gotta love when the Ghoul takes down the Steel
The Ghoul should change his name to The GOAT
Cause he is the GOAT of this show
The Ghoul Of All Time. Yup.
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the only scene in the series that dissapoint me - Why would brotherhood just stand and wait till the GHOUL finishes his speech? They made that ghoul just overpowered
It's a cutscene.
I really liked this series, but this scene was ABSOLUTLY effing dumb. They did an amazing job in general of sticking with Fallout lore and theme, but this was just over the top dumb plot.
I get enclave remnant vibes here. The ghoul solos the brotherhood like the enclave solos the legion in a manner of speaking if you side with the Legion and Lanius takes over.
Or you could solo the Brotherhood while wearing Enclave armor.
I'll never forgive the BOS for what they did to the NCR at the Observatory.
Great show the Ghoul is fantastic.
NG+ gunslinger
i like the show so far but looking back there is an absurd amount of plot convenience to move the story along. The Ghoul pulls the fusion core out the reactor, killing the lights. One of the guys in power armor literally screams out "I can't see shit" even though all three of them are wearing a t-60 Power armor helmet with a spotlight built in that they just don't turn on for some plot convenient reason, i guess went the lights went out so did their brain cells. And even though they can't see, apparently Ghoul can see well enough to fire off six shots, each bullet getting it's kill with not a single shot wasted. That's bad writing.
You could argue that the shock factor is there. They got a weakness they did not know existed exposed. They realised they were less unbeatable than whay they originally thought. Cooper was taking psychology in count here, giving them many things to process. The knights panicked, thus fired indiscriminately without hearing to reason. They were shocked to learn about the weakness.
The knights we've seen have largely been a bunch of morons. The Elder thinks the BOS is at its lowest and is just embarrassed by their ineptitude.
Its established they suck and that this sort of thing can happen.
Awesome
I already know it's censored before watching 😂
imma be honest, im glad i dont have to deal with that weakness in fo76.
but im bummed out that the NCR remnants were taken out since i can never get enough of their ranger armors.
I'd say another big flaw is the pilot... Or the headlamps are just for show? 😅
Bro just spammed VATS
Roger would be ashmed of what the brotherhood has become
This is what they always were. They were never good in any capacity. FO3 was the exception and even then they reverted back to this state
The Elder in the show himself expresses utter dismay at the present Brotherhood. They really do just suck.
i kinda felt bad for the guy in power armor
Would've come in handy in Ep 1
The mech warriors vs the ghoul trick shooter($20 on the ghoul😅)
Man it hurts watching the NCR get trashed the way they did
Lucy is supposed to be the main protagonist? I think the Ghoul has become the focus now.
Lucy is one of three protagonists, not the main one.
@@VegetaLF7 Understood. TY
When the knight falls ypu see the realization on the squires face The Ghoul could have killed him earlier and doesnt shoot at him. I dont think The ghoul planned to kill him here. Amazing.
Power armor was never welded. It is cast and fitted, as anyone can tell by just looking at it.
This show could not be bothered to do the smallest research on even this small detail.
In addition, if the Ghoul knew this trick since his military days, why did he not use it on Maximus in their first battle?
Terrible writing, they need a lore continuity advisor and script doctor STAT.
The show literally explained that Cooper wore the T-45 model in Alaska. The Brotherhood is shown wearing T-60. That's why he says "I wonder if they fixed that in this new model.". That's why he didn't use it against Max in Filly: Because he didn't realize that the flaw in the T-45 armor also exists in the T-60 suits UNTIL THIS SCENE. Also, maybe do a double-check because a welder was used on power armor DURING THE OPENING CUTSCENE FOR FALLOUT 4.
@@thenightmaricsenpai524 You literally did not understand the criticism. Read it again, and if you fail to comprehend it once more, please attempt to get a refund for your 'education'.
Everyone will thank you for ceasing to waste our time. TIA!
In addition, the welder was being used to *repair* damaged armor in the field, not to manufacture it (this happens at factories). Please try and pay attention to details, they are important.
It will be less embarrassing for you if you do, I am sure.
@@BobSmith-kk4kppower armour is a few cast parts, all mounted on rubber-alloy exoskeleton, that’s true. However, the body armour kinda has two sections and I think that’s where the welding takes place.
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The decision to shift away from the more heroic-leaning Brotherhood of Fallout 3/New Vegas and firmly bring them back to being fascist jocks and goonish zealots in stolen tank suits was one of the best choices this show made.
Replay New Vegas and finsish Veronicas questline the BOS are not good guys
The BOS were only good in 3.
It's clear you have never played NV with the brotherhood involved
They arent stolen, their great grandparents were issued them by the us govt. More a monastic tech cult than facist.
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