Atosa units the Chinese refrigerators

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

Комментарии • 133

  • @toolman9081
    @toolman9081 8 лет назад +12

    Liking the condenser filters. That coated condensate discharge is nice too. Shame they can still sell them so cheap because off the crooked trade deals the government set in place... There goes more American jobs... like you said, at the price of these, this will hurt manufacturing and service.

  • @jonhvac
    @jonhvac 8 лет назад +7

    An over 50% savings in cost is huge. It will likely not do as well as True. But the restaurant biz is hard to do well in, so I can understand why some would use the lower brand for sure.

  • @seymore2000
    @seymore2000 8 лет назад +6

    I think it should be mandatory for health departments should inspect ice machines just about every "ice machine not keeping up " call I get hasn't been cleaned in over a year Yummy stuff Dave thanks for all the info!

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад +3

      Mike Seymore everyone. Only get attention when they don't work.

    • @Maxvicious2
      @Maxvicious2 4 года назад

      @@NorCal-refrigeration Also keep in mind that minerals don't freeze thus the deposits on unit , I agree though some are nasty and auto cleaners are just a selling tool at best.

  • @phil955i
    @phil955i 6 лет назад +3

    Looks fine to me, better than that American crap ;-) That condenser fan motor we call a "multi fit" here in Europe, generally 5 watts,10, 18, 25 & 36 watt ratings depending on duty, it's all I carry on my van because the vast majority of commercial refrigeration here uses them. The mounting spacing is metric BTW, I've tried to retrofit them on True equipment (which is the only kit I come across that uses imperial) & they can be made to fit ...just. And those electronic controllers are pretty standard here too, I noticed that a lot of the kit over there is still being supplied with electro-mechanical thermostats. Personally I prefer thermostats but I'm old school ;-)

  • @rpg_wizzard8267
    @rpg_wizzard8267 8 лет назад +7

    I've ran a few warranty calls on these. Stainless so thin they're dented up after a few months, they look like a unit 10 years old.

  • @clarencenesmith781
    @clarencenesmith781 8 лет назад +7

    I have had no problems with the Embraco compressors yet, (4440) equivalent. I see the same quality issues in the household fridges I work on. People mistakenly think if they buy a Kenmore fridge that they are getting quality, but the made in China sticker says it all.
    I also believe that the Chinese copper tubing is inferior, thinner, and contains more impurities than the old American made copper tubing they used to use in refrigerators.

    • @19voodoo69
      @19voodoo69 7 лет назад +2

      FBD had a shit ton of Chinese copper tubing in their Frozen beverage units made in 2014.

    • @persimonsen8792
      @persimonsen8792 5 лет назад +1

      I have seen a lot of pre isolated copper for heatpumps, start to leak after few months. Good luck find such small hole on a line set.

  • @MrMultitool
    @MrMultitool 8 лет назад +3

    I guess we will be like tv repairmen and motor winders one day.I do see somethings I like though.

  • @tomcat27557
    @tomcat27557 7 лет назад +5

    2 fish heads and a bowl of rice per day, 10 cent an hour, a 16 hour shift with only 1 restroom break... do quality work too....round-eye!

  • @jimbola77
    @jimbola77 7 лет назад +3

    yeah I'm gonna shoot jim a call he is an awesome tech I learned a lot from his Excellent video's!!!! by the way that unit is CACA!!!! thank's for sharing ...

  • @ThomasBahamas
    @ThomasBahamas 7 лет назад +2

    At my last job on startups the reach in freezers for the ice cream (Hill-Phoenix brand) would come standard with a Dixell controller. We always replaced them with a Danfoss.

  • @andrewthacker114
    @andrewthacker114 5 лет назад +2

    Good clip, a lot like the Turbo Air.

  • @THEtechknight
    @THEtechknight 8 лет назад +2

    that grey inverter drive box bolted to the side of that compressor fails very very often. I have had to rebuild a few in a pinch.

  • @philltafolla
    @philltafolla 8 лет назад +1

    Nice video bud, I had the pleasure to work on one of those Atosa.. units today, except the one I worked on was a freezer, with a nice restriction at the inlet of the drier. Drier looked cheap! Unlike those Turbo Air units they threw in good size driers !

  • @jamestoy3025
    @jamestoy3025 7 лет назад +1

    I like the pre filter on the condsensor but the real kicker is the quality on that condensate drain YEAH lets just add more money to china thanks dave great job

  • @heavydiesel
    @heavydiesel 8 лет назад +2

    Just had a customer scrap a eight year old two door prep table due to a failed controller and condenser fan motor, repair cost was half of what new one was and i had my doubts over the compressor as it had run hot.
    Those square motors are really common here, i keep a load of different ones on the van.

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад +2

      heavydiesel good info HD throw away units it is.

    • @Ta-th2yo
      @Ta-th2yo 8 лет назад +2

      "square motors" are common here in Finland too. Made by Elco, 5w, 10W, 16W and 25W. Easy to install and change.

  • @icesoft1
    @icesoft1 8 лет назад +6

    @4:41 looks like the condensate drain on the reach-in may have already been 'repaired', looks like there's grey sealant 'spooge' on the customer's recipe chart stuck fast to the back of the unit above the condensate pan...

  • @KALZONE850
    @KALZONE850 6 лет назад +1

    Hey man I appreciate you making all these videos. I like how thorough you are! Guys like me need to see how it’s done right! I recently started a refrigeration business as a side hustle. Only have one customer right now till I get all the tools I need. Primarily I cook and on the side I repair and maintenance their equipment. Eventually I would like go full time with my company. My area in Florida is nothing but restaurants and hotels. The training Program I went through focused on residential so I still have a lot to learn. Can you give me any pointers/business advice/books/training materials?

  • @polishtheturdmickelson5473
    @polishtheturdmickelson5473 6 лет назад +1

    Yeah does Franke units use the same motors as their condenser fan motors?

  • @repetemyname842
    @repetemyname842 7 лет назад

    Nice tutorial Dave, have not yet encountered the Atosa beast.

  • @mrlevelle
    @mrlevelle 7 лет назад

    thx for taking time to make all you videos love them😀

  • @jonhvac
    @jonhvac 8 лет назад +4

    Oh and it kind of looks like they resealed that condensate...there's a little grey caulking smeared on the menu. I'm so Sherlock :)

  • @hvacgabe5889
    @hvacgabe5889 8 лет назад +1

    good info. great video.

  • @scottriddle5468
    @scottriddle5468 6 лет назад

    Love your videos and I've learned alot from them too thanks bro

  • @popsmccartney435
    @popsmccartney435 8 лет назад +10

    Do you know how Jim Pettinato is doing, he has not posted a vedo in over a month?

  • @stevenorr8538
    @stevenorr8538 7 лет назад +3

    The cheap kit is very popular here in the uk. But for that price you can't really blame people can you? Enjoy your vids. Happy Christmas

  • @harrydickson4575
    @harrydickson4575 8 лет назад +1

    Great video Dave

  • @whitesheatingairappliancer7101
    @whitesheatingairappliancer7101 8 лет назад +1

    thanks for the video.

  • @thegreatjellydoughnu
    @thegreatjellydoughnu 8 лет назад +3

    Always in a race to the bottom. I wonder how long before
    other manufactures move to the same kind of design or just straight up
    rebranding to be competitive. if this continues there going to have to get the
    price on parts down to as you say keep them worth fixing

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад +1

      The Great Jelly Doughnut exactly

    • @corrydriscoll6920
      @corrydriscoll6920 4 года назад

      @@NorCal-refrigerationAll industry has gone t*its up for the most part, especially since 2016 but consistently year by year. "The great jelly doughnut" I swear I heard that reference before. Insight on that statement?

  • @deviouslick5097
    @deviouslick5097 4 года назад

    I actually embrace all the Chinese refrigeration and HVAC products. We are technicians, we make a living off repairing equipment. I hope we will see Chinese roof-top units and other large commercial HVAC units soon.

  • @jaywalling6123
    @jaywalling6123 8 лет назад

    Ice machine is looking pretty rough? Do you set up maintenance contracts with the ice machines too?

  • @apprenticephil649
    @apprenticephil649 8 лет назад +2

    I've noticed a real decline in True lately. We cover warranty calls in Ontario Canada. I've seen drain lines factory installed on an incline and creased. The quality of True has decreased in order to keep up with Chinese manufacturers. If this is where the industry is heading. Then bring on the service. There will always be demand for this trade. You just have to keep up with the changes.

  • @ritewayguy
    @ritewayguy 8 лет назад

    I have adapted 5411 motors to preptables, and they work fine. The 00807s I have changed out only have lasted a little over a year.

  • @saltrue1555
    @saltrue1555 4 года назад

    Thank you very much Dave

  • @Gears.and.Gadgets
    @Gears.and.Gadgets 8 лет назад +1

    Well at the very least they have condenser filters. Sad to see them using cheap metals which rust so quickly. I'm also seeing more of the Mars 807 motors even on the new True and Beverage Air units as well.

  • @RobHVAC
    @RobHVAC 8 лет назад +1

    Nice vid.

  • @m3recordsLLC
    @m3recordsLLC 3 года назад

    What brands do you suggest?

  • @stephen9495
    @stephen9495 2 года назад

    just wondering.... have you stopped seeing these units?

  • @yoniraul3490
    @yoniraul3490 8 лет назад +1

    awsome video. not so familyar with refrigeration but how do you usually clean an ice maker?

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад +1

      yoni raul look on my channel I have ice machine cleaning videos.

  • @robertweeks1171
    @robertweeks1171 8 лет назад

    Just added a relief vent to a Hoshizaki freezer just the other day. Came with an updated defrost heater, and drain line heater. Drain line heater stays energized all the time, instead of just when freezer was in defrost.

  • @stevengilber1153
    @stevengilber1153 8 лет назад +1

    good info

  • @jgrijalva1998
    @jgrijalva1998 Год назад

    Do u have a part # for the pre filter you took off at the beginning of the video...

  • @poppypiesdad1
    @poppypiesdad1 8 лет назад

    great information dave , not seen to many over here in the uk...... so far .....

    • @poppypiesdad1
      @poppypiesdad1 8 лет назад

      and just proved wrong that pizza table is a little over £1K WOW just WoW

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад

      Jamie HVAC I know. With the price the customers will buy them,

  • @WorkTraveler
    @WorkTraveler 8 лет назад +1

    Like Everest? I have seen a few in the past few months.

  • @jasbro2873
    @jasbro2873 8 лет назад +4

    I live for square fan motors there on pretty much everything in Australia

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад

      Jas Bro I found some on Amazon for 7$ u.s.

    • @jasbro2873
      @jasbro2873 8 лет назад +1

      Awesome the motors always die! and the evaps leak a lot on the China stuff but as you say throw away items now!!

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад

      Jas Bro have you done any EVAP change outs on those? Or dose the customer just buy a new one?

  • @chrisbivens5410
    @chrisbivens5410 8 лет назад +1

    Similar to a turbo air or a Everest. Not a fan of either. I've Repaired a lot of those condensate loops and they are not easy to get to like you said. I've been to the True factory in St. Louis and its impressive. Can't beat the quality of a good old true or traulsen but you can beat the price and sadly that's what most customers care about these days. They all have Chinese components so I guess it comes down to quality of the box itself and buying American. I know our job is to repair them but What do you really think of them?

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад

      Chris Bivens Traulsen is solid and last. True is good. Delfield is real good. Beverage air is ok too. I'm not a fan of turboair either but like u said the customer will buy these.

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад +1

      Chris Bivens I really think there not going to last. But for the price if the customer can get 5-7 years out of it then it's a wash. I usually see about 10 years life on a compressor in good units, ( they get abused ), buy 2 Chinese units to 1 good one.

  • @persimonsen8792
    @persimonsen8792 5 лет назад

    Those square motors are industry standard in Europe. More or less all small reach-inn and such have these, on evaporator side and condenser.

  • @ericgrooms6645
    @ericgrooms6645 4 года назад

    I live and work in jax fl. These things are everywhere, Hoshizaki got into the restuarant Refrigeration reach ins business. They offer low prices and still cant come close to the price of these. They were using txvs but now are going to cap tube to reduce prices. They are using r290 I dont know if that will change either. It just sucks to see companies that have to make all these energy saving changes brought on by the epa, which increases costs. But you can just buy them from a company that distributes them and they get it all from china. The MAXX ICE brand is trying to sell cheap ice machines but so far have been unable to make something worthy. But I'm afraid that's only a matter of time.

  • @hvacrjunky6119
    @hvacrjunky6119 8 лет назад

    Great video, thanks for the heads up. What is the Warranty on those Chinese units.

  • @BlackHawkPSU
    @BlackHawkPSU 5 лет назад +1

    The company I usually purchase refrigeration equipment from is trying to steer me to buying this Atosa brand. He claims they have really improved. I somehow doubt it. I'm used to purchasing True and Beverage Air. I do have a newer Turbo air refrigerator with the self cleaning feature and so far it's been fine.

  • @hannarye
    @hannarye 8 лет назад

    Great video brother.

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад +1

      North Atlanta Refrigeration LLC have you seen those units in GA?

    • @hannarye
      @hannarye 8 лет назад

      Not yet and I do quite a bit of prep tables.

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад +1

      North Atlanta Refrigeration LLC I've seen about 10 of these out there so far, and the restaurant supply is pushing these hard.

  • @MrNaildriver01
    @MrNaildriver01 5 лет назад

    That little square motor looks like an ELCO motor.

  • @michaelprice2611
    @michaelprice2611 8 лет назад

    Hey bro...if you could. My a video on the dixell control. Been running across them more this year. Job hasn't gave us any training on them.

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад

      Michael Price I should. There are 2 set ups refrigerators and freezers also 115 volt and 240 volt models.

  • @matthewbrixie
    @matthewbrixie 3 месяца назад

    Are these still running?

  • @corrydriscoll6920
    @corrydriscoll6920 4 года назад

    Question is, do they use these in China...

  • @ApplianceRep
    @ApplianceRep 8 лет назад +1

    I think with Obama cutbacks on that labor law we are all going to have a hard time trying to make a buck in service.

  • @hvactechpr7872
    @hvactechpr7872 7 лет назад +3

    and when you cant find that controller... time to mod in a temp control and timer lol

    • @davidperry4013
      @davidperry4013 4 года назад +1

      Alexander's Refrigeration & A/C Videos or upswell the customer a True or Traulsen refrigerator by letting them know that Atosa it’s not a good brand.

  • @Maxvicious2
    @Maxvicious2 4 года назад +3

    If it starts with a"A" dont buy it Advanco , Aotsa (Atoasta) China CRAP

  • @meerscan9101
    @meerscan9101 8 лет назад

    did you ever run into anymore propane units?

    • @NorCal-refrigeration
      @NorCal-refrigeration  8 лет назад

      refrigeration tech yes true is using R290 and it will be there forever I think. We will get used to repairing them.

  • @awsom70
    @awsom70 8 лет назад

    cant beat a Delfield imo but when they can buy 4 for the price of one ya cant blame them. but then again in the long run will they really save $ when it doesnt last? only time will tell. how is parts availability?

  • @davidperry4013
    @davidperry4013 4 года назад

    I have worked in a warehouse and they had a sub 5 year old Atosa refrigerator in the break room for storing perishable sack lunches that has been on a leaking spree and repair technicians did not want to repair this crap. Glad they got rid of that POS. They should’ve spent the extra money on a True or Traulsen. I have seen much better quality in big box store residential refrigerators than Atosa refrigerators. If you are going into the restaurant biz or want a cold place for your employees to store their lunches in the break room, don’t buy Atosa or you will buy twice.

  • @erikcable1755
    @erikcable1755 6 лет назад

    the 1/2 hour no vent freezer door would be a big issue...

  • @OcRefrig
    @OcRefrig 8 лет назад +1

    Good Vid. Good info ! Yep, starting to see a few of these around. i don't know if i like the shrink tubing around the hot gas line, i like the fact that it staves off the corrosion and makes it last longer , but will it still evaporate enough water, plastic is an insulator, dropping the hot gas line temperature significantly, i can see overflowing drain pan problems possibly. we will see.

  • @hvactechpr7872
    @hvactechpr7872 7 лет назад +2

    seen the new true there propane... no more 134a in New equipment starting 1/17...

    • @Maxvicious2
      @Maxvicious2 4 года назад

      They Rock 1.5 oz of R290 1/2 size compressor

  • @robertjohnson6128
    @robertjohnson6128 6 лет назад

    About to go in on a call right now working on an atosa single door stand up cooler fan wasn't working starting to think it's the controller

  • @franciscocisneros4100
    @franciscocisneros4100 6 лет назад +1

    I have a three door supera freezer, they are junk the heating pipe got same how rust, water went in and damage the compressor, I think that company is not longer in bussines

    • @Nateone626
      @Nateone626 4 года назад +1

      Francisco Cisneros I know this is old but yeah bro I worked on that supera new unit compressor took a shit. Went to look them up and they were gone lol

  • @karlandersen793
    @karlandersen793 2 года назад

    These have gotten a lot worse, I tell people not to buy them. They are dying at year and one day consecutively, part department doesn't even know the heating element PN. Ashame. Worry me about the future for food service industry.

  • @hvactechpr7872
    @hvactechpr7872 7 лет назад +1

    btw them square motors are pos...

  • @claydavis2095
    @claydavis2095 6 лет назад

    Chida billions and billions. Jk. Throw away means more scrap

  • @joevinski1
    @joevinski1 5 лет назад

    That’s a turbo air unit all day long lol they are identical in every way except the badge :/ units are garbage but that’s exactly what they are throw away units

  • @franciscovazqueza8047
    @franciscovazqueza8047 2 года назад

    The Chinese equipment, for me is cheap,but after 3 years the bad dreams is coming up, very problematic,.

  • @restaurantequipmentguy
    @restaurantequipmentguy 4 года назад

    Shame on you guys for supporting a Chinese product and not an American-made true Beverage Air or traulsen

  • @SovereignTroll
    @SovereignTroll 5 лет назад

    Basura

  • @OcRefrig
    @OcRefrig 8 лет назад

    like #95