Just wanna say, it was edited out of the video but there was another player who was queueing into the same games and was trying to cooperate with boom and kandy to track down the cheaters. He was banned just hours after this footage was recorded. It has been three days since when this footage was recorded. The cheaters are still unbanned and have games as recent as six hours prior to this comment. Edit: It's been four days since this footage was recorded. The cheaters are still farming and have not yet been banned.
Yep, remove aim assist too, its a form of aimbot. Any wonder the anti cheat is so shit… if they invested in a good one people would get banned falsely due to how close to aimbot the aim assist is
3:42 the reason for it as far as I can tell is that that line has to be drawn somewhere, and as soon as you do cheaters will quickly find out exactly where it is and cheat just under it. 100:1 headshots is insta ban, get ready for 99:1 aimbot. 30 consecutive wins is the line? People will farm 29 games and lose. Part of the strategy that most games use is to have ban wave to help obfuscate what they can detect. If players get instantly banned they can figure out that line much more quickly.
You're not entirely wrong, but server side anti-cheats should do a lot more than just see if they hit 100 consecutive headshots. For example, that cheat where they have aimbot and their bullets can just curve in any direction. That could easily be stopped by a server side anti-cheat just by making it so the if the client says that they shot someone out of a small specific margin of directly in front of their view when they shot, then the server should either flag or kick them depending on how deviant the shots are. And there's so much more stuff that they could also add to stop that specific cheat, and many others, but unfortunately EA / Respawn is just money greedy and can't be bothered spending money on developing that serer side anti-cheat + also getting better servers and fixing their game etc. As long as people keep buying all their skins and shit, they're never gonna fix their game.
and also if you set the line low enough, then it ends up stopping nearly all of the insane crazy cheats, like perfect aimbot headshots, and that one where they can just fly across the map. So you may still have cheaters who have figured out how to bypass the better anti-cheat, BUT, they would have way way weaker cheats, probably only stuff like walling that isn't really that easy to stop with server-side anti cheats, and soft aim. And so by doing this, you can stop a majority of the cheaters, which also allows the anticheat team to review more of the soft aim and weak cheaters, and possibly get them banned as well, overall getting rid of nearly all cheats.
Now that i think about it, Destroyer2009 may have been someone who was absolutely fed up with cheaters and decided to send a message to respawn about how weak their anti-cheat security is. That's my theory at least.
Not just their own time, but also wasting everybody else's time. But these are the schmucks who just simply do not care about anybody but themselves. Nobody else is SUPPOSED to be able to understand how the minds of those goddamned trolls work.
I used to play with a couple of peeps who apparently bought boost etc. One did for the "lols" (which I don't believe one bit lmao) and another because he was frustrated he couldn't get out of D1.. which is obviously a great justification 🤪
Boom please keep it up man. I see success in your future with all this streaming and gaming that you do. I just have a feeling. Don't give up. I know I'm not the only one who believes in you. P.s. would love to play with you sometime
this is the everyday sydney moring ranked lobbies, if you wanna play real sydney lobbies you have to play at nightime. becasue i play on these servers. its very hard
this pisses me off I've solo queued to get to plat and I'm just an average player who works his 40 hours and spends time with his wife and kids, I play apex because I love it and enjoy it I always knew cheaters were a thing but knowing that there's servers where ppl just farm to pred really ticks me off what losers
multiple ways to be able to check or flag this. Teams that are in the same lobby consecutive times would be like a weight of 1, then add more points based on proximity to the same teams each game, hs:bodyshot ratio, discrepancies of rank, list goes on and on, until some number like 21 points is hit, and you can almost assume its purpose is illegitimate without manual intervention.
They only check language reports, cause of the "EA positive play charter". Thats it. They don't care at all about cheaters like "haha funny that you want to report a cheater. Now buy our 700$ heirloom and stfu".
So, Actual good players get punished with Trash RnG and god awful teammates. But low level Players can get easily boosted from an Unbannable Cheater. Bro, this games Dogwater.
even if it did flag the account, someone then needs to manually review the case, and these matches take ten minutes, and then add thousands of cheaters and then you have hundreds of thousands of files to manually review even if it only takes 30 seconds, it adds up and each one you review another 40 are added, anti cheats only detect and ban on software/hardware that is "already known", many privatized cheats don't flag the anti cheat and the devs don't know how they exec their program so it remains undetected/manual ban for X period of time, and by the time you manually ban the dude, he is already back on another account within a few minutes, its never ending.
Someone should just start a petition at this point to bring Carnel Anti-Cheat into Apex.. Considering this is EA, we might have to get a gofundme at the same time.
Hideouts should've been fired the moment he started fratinizing with "pros". It's a conflict of interest. Shit he's the one who white-listed Zaine when it ended up being Zaine is now highly suspected of cheating and has MIA since those videos came out. With the dozen servers they have there's no reason they can't have an admin per server (rotating shifts), to just check reports, spectate and ban instantly. There is no anti-cheat at this point.
Just like COD they do nothing about cheaters, it actually feels like they encourage it in their high profile streamers.🤔 that's why i left after season 12; too many cheaters. GFYS Respawn, I'll never touch that trash Apex again. Lol🤷 I value my sanity and integrity.
I’m just wondering who even believes these ppl that they’re showing off that they’re pred and flexing it. Boosting in a game like Apex just doesn’t make sense when you don’t really get anything for being in higher ranks, except for maybe bragging rights.
The developers should put all cheats as an in game toggle enabled setting. Then put the players who choose to enable these in a seperate lobby (lets call it potatoe lobby). Then use ai to learn the play pattern from all such players. Then use the ai to detectect any players having extremely similar play pattern in fair lobbies. Then tag their account so that the only lobby they can join is the potatoe lobby. I will be Posting this in as many cheat videos as possible.
Is it me or have the last 2-3 seasons just gotten flooded with cheaters? Im currently plat and my pred lobbies are full of cheaters. Are all these COD cheaters jumping ship or wtf?
This is such a great vid! Shame that them man there suck, cheaters ruin the game and as someone else said, 7squads being in an entire server is crazy alr
Xbox or ps? Because I haven’t run into any six stacks on ps5 yet. I did run into a 9 stack a few seasons ago in pubs. They kept killing each other and crafting respawn beacons. I’m guessing so they can get the 20 kill badge? They sucked hard tho so me and my team managed to kill them. I left with 8 kills lol. Imagine being so bad at a game that you have to cheat in six or 9 man’s. It’s crazy.
How many actual preds are there then? Because cheaters cheat to steal a top 750 spot for the badge but its more realistic to say its top 150 for preds that dont cheat to get there, ya know?
try playing on taiwan server its all hackers spawning bots and farming then the game goes from 60 players with probably the havker squad which are bot teammates and my squad with two bot teammates as well to 4 players in 5 mins
ı just stopped the playing apex legends. The cheaters never gonna stop and ea never stop making new skins. This game become a bullshit, anime game. Quit if you not a streamer
There’s this new thing they are doing we’re the set the aimbot to only hit per say 20damage and other lower numbers consistently so it be like 20 20 15 20 25 24 24 24 20 this is meant too trick the viewer in t thinking he is legit but he’s 100% aimboting this is also called closet cheatin as opposed to rage hacking we’re it’s super obvious, so if you ever die too someone who sucks at aiming and there damage is weird like that now y’all know, hackers know it’s better to closet cheat to last longer without getting banned, I wish I could track hackers back to there house and steal there pc’s 😂😂😂 I’m done!
Competitive FPS games need to just make it only playable on the cloud and take game files off peoples PC. If anyone has played a game off like Nvidia Geforce now would know.
u guys are playing sydney at like 3 in the morning our time, we all asleep thats why the games are like that. If u played during the day for us the games would be normal.
There are so many cheaters and smurfs in this game.. And cheaters are getting worse cause most of them not show themselves (sometimes not so obvious as cheat style) as much as first seasons... And so much less people watching them after they died... Btw. Respawn give us the "Straight Shot" mod back. I have zero patient this classic trios, duos random teammates, loot system, classic drop ship system. Hot drop or no one drop system.. etc etc. Make the Straight shot mod permenant !!!
Why so excited. This is absolutely normal in Apex. Ea and respawn do and will never ever do anything about cheaters. Blatant cheaters everywhere and can't even ban them.
Dang this is crazy😂😂😂 I wish I could spawn in with only 5 squads left! Also it was pretty funny watching this after the Algs regional finals today😂😂😂 Congrats on 20k!🥳🎉❤️🔥
One thing i love about console is that you cant do none of this stupid shit. Its just a lot harder to execute because most console players don't have time to be doing this type of stuff. Pc players can be so degenerate sometimes
obviously... you don't see that people use AI to program much more complex cheats than the current easy anti cheat (for me it's more of a parody) the only possible solution to fight against AI generated cheats is a specially trained AI that starts as a small newborn and needs a good parents what will he show him...yes here is a pro player who plays like this...and here is a cheater who uses all the things that are banned...now tell me the difference between them...BOOM the future
another problem... devs should start playing Apex because if they play it (like none of them play it, because after all they aren't bunch of loosers who sit at the computer and just play games...#big mistake) every day for at least 20 minutes so they would know that the game looks disastrous...?
I got ddossed in mixtape yesterday the exact second I took a trident over behind the enemy zone. It kept forcing me out of the trident too and I was cracked and couldn’t get away.
Cheaters can do a lot of things. They can put literal AI in games (mostly mixtape) to level them up for ranked so that they can cheat to get to masters/pred, ect. Then they sell the accounts to people. Like the cheaters don’t even have to play the game. They just spawn the AI in a mixtape game and if they get shot at they will instantly lock on and kill you, but if you don’t shoot at them at all they won’t even move. It’s bizarre so I’m kinda glad I still play on console 🤣 apart from the 6 manning stuff in ranked, luckily I haven’t seen that yet.
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Constantly getting ranked games with only 18 people should already be a red flag
probably he plays on poor country servers on purpose look ping
its easy to play with 180+ ping when the enemie cant hit u lol
Just wanna say, it was edited out of the video but there was another player who was queueing into the same games and was trying to cooperate with boom and kandy to track down the cheaters. He was banned just hours after this footage was recorded.
It has been three days since when this footage was recorded. The cheaters are still unbanned and have games as recent as six hours prior to this comment.
Edit: It's been four days since this footage was recorded. The cheaters are still farming and have not yet been banned.
Lmaoo yea I’m glad I don’t play pc apex anymore
@@0maxk_it’s not just PC, they are on consoles too
@@MentLeee ik, but not as many
95 % win rate on crypto, 100 % on Seer, Rampart, Blood... LMAO
are they still doing it?
"IM FRIENDLY" lmaoooo, great video
Players: your game is infested with cheaters
EAspawn: lmao here’s a recolor stfu
This makes me mad at respawn. They could 100% do more.
Yep, remove aim assist too, its a form of aimbot. Any wonder the anti cheat is so shit… if they invested in a good one people would get banned falsely due to how close to aimbot the aim assist is
@@Thelostmcmotorcycleclubsuch a dumb take honestly, aim assist has nothing to do with this😂
That is such a shit take lol no wonder u think like this now that i saw ur user name@@Thelostmcmotorcycleclub
No
@@Wizardthunder low ah iq
Boomrazzle: The Last Cheater Hunter
The last cheater bender
3:42 the reason for it as far as I can tell is that that line has to be drawn somewhere, and as soon as you do cheaters will quickly find out exactly where it is and cheat just under it. 100:1 headshots is insta ban, get ready for 99:1 aimbot. 30 consecutive wins is the line? People will farm 29 games and lose. Part of the strategy that most games use is to have ban wave to help obfuscate what they can detect. If players get instantly banned they can figure out that line much more quickly.
You're not entirely wrong, but server side anti-cheats should do a lot more than just see if they hit 100 consecutive headshots. For example, that cheat where they have aimbot and their bullets can just curve in any direction. That could easily be stopped by a server side anti-cheat just by making it so the if the client says that they shot someone out of a small specific margin of directly in front of their view when they shot, then the server should either flag or kick them depending on how deviant the shots are. And there's so much more stuff that they could also add to stop that specific cheat, and many others, but unfortunately EA / Respawn is just money greedy and can't be bothered spending money on developing that serer side anti-cheat + also getting better servers and fixing their game etc. As long as people keep buying all their skins and shit, they're never gonna fix their game.
and also if you set the line low enough, then it ends up stopping nearly all of the insane crazy cheats, like perfect aimbot headshots, and that one where they can just fly across the map. So you may still have cheaters who have figured out how to bypass the better anti-cheat, BUT, they would have way way weaker cheats, probably only stuff like walling that isn't really that easy to stop with server-side anti cheats, and soft aim. And so by doing this, you can stop a majority of the cheaters, which also allows the anticheat team to review more of the soft aim and weak cheaters, and possibly get them banned as well, overall getting rid of nearly all cheats.
Now that i think about it, Destroyer2009 may have been someone who was absolutely fed up with cheaters and decided to send a message to respawn about how weak their anti-cheat security is. That's my theory at least.
That's actually might be good.. being a hacker to destroy the cheater... Like being a sinner to destroy a criminal
this video was so good. such good quality and was so fun to watch. good job boom keep it up!
Wonder who these people are that pay cheaters. Just seems like a waste of money and time.
Not just their own time, but also wasting everybody else's time. But these are the schmucks who just simply do not care about anybody but themselves. Nobody else is SUPPOSED to be able to understand how the minds of those goddamned trolls work.
I used to play with a couple of peeps who apparently bought boost etc. One did for the "lols" (which I don't believe one bit lmao) and another because he was frustrated he couldn't get out of D1.. which is obviously a great justification 🤪
You know its sad that the thing that might kill apex is the players who cheat since they can't use configs anymore. Truly tragic.
Boom please keep it up man. I see success in your future with all this streaming and gaming that you do. I just have a feeling. Don't give up. I know I'm not the only one who believes in you.
P.s. would love to play with you sometime
I believe.... Maybe... just maybe... click bait them with them sideburns in the thumbnail.
14 players in a lobby off spawn is crazyyy
I watched this after algs today lmao
Same😂😂😂
This was one of the best streams I watched. Glad you edited into a video. reliving it was just as satisfying!
I came back to Apex After a Year and died on the first three Games to a Chaeter in Pubs really in Pubs i am so done with this Game
this is the everyday sydney moring ranked lobbies, if you wanna play real sydney lobbies you have to play at nightime. becasue i play on these servers. its very hard
But Hideouts said you guys just don't know how amazing he is at his job, he is the best of the best.
there isnt many videos I was waiting for, but this was IT
Congrats on 20k
This is why I hate playing on my own servers, I stopped playing this season because Aussie servers are so fucked its impossible to play
this pisses me off I've solo queued to get to plat and I'm just an average player who works his 40 hours and spends time with his wife and kids, I play apex because I love it and enjoy it I always knew cheaters were a thing but knowing that there's servers where ppl just farm to pred really ticks me off what losers
multiple ways to be able to check or flag this. Teams that are in the same lobby consecutive times would be like a weight of 1, then add more points based on proximity to the same teams each game, hs:bodyshot ratio, discrepancies of rank, list goes on and on, until some number like 21 points is hit, and you can almost assume its purpose is illegitimate without manual intervention.
I’m convinced hackers are those kids in grade-school who got chose last for dodgeball.
Fighting for the good of all Apex players!
Your shoes are united
The real problem is the report button. Like its not functioning at all. Should'nt respawn/ea check the guy with most report first for ban?
They only check language reports, cause of the "EA positive play charter". Thats it. They don't care at all about cheaters like "haha funny that you want to report a cheater. Now buy our 700$ heirloom and stfu".
So, Actual good players get punished with Trash RnG and god awful teammates.
But low level Players can get easily boosted from an Unbannable Cheater.
Bro, this games Dogwater.
Players: your game is infested with cheaters
EAspawn: here have a skin worth 3000 coins
like how does EA/respawn not see this garbage and do something about it?
Bro died last night to a triple stack pred
If you give Respawn/EA any of your money from now on you’re actively participating in this problem amen
Bro 4:53 it’s like a horror movie
Not "this"... All of them.
Sad how this is problably the best rank ststem yet and devs don't do anything about this cheater sytuation
Welcome to our sweaty severs bro, in au it’s practically just diamonds and up in every lobby. Very rare to see no pred. Or cheater only lobbies
I can’t. Keep playing ranked platinum because of cheaters. Right now so I wait until next split to reach my highest rank
even if it did flag the account, someone then needs to manually review the case, and these matches take ten minutes, and then add thousands of cheaters and then you have hundreds of thousands of files to manually review even if it only takes 30 seconds, it adds up and each one you review another 40 are added, anti cheats only detect and ban on software/hardware that is "already known", many privatized cheats don't flag the anti cheat and the devs don't know how they exec their program so it remains undetected/manual ban for X period of time, and by the time you manually ban the dude, he is already back on another account within a few minutes, its never ending.
ive met this dude in pubsbefore (ice)
You guys not staying together and dropping like flies apart just triggers me.
Someone should just start a petition at this point to bring Carnel Anti-Cheat into Apex..
Considering this is EA, we might have to get a gofundme at the same time.
i dont think you should be talking about granting EA OF ALL COMPANIES kernel level access if you do not even know how to spell kernel.
Hype season turned into a clown fest, shit hurts
Hideouts should've been fired the moment he started fratinizing with "pros". It's a conflict of interest. Shit he's the one who white-listed Zaine when it ended up being Zaine is now highly suspected of cheating and has MIA since those videos came out. With the dozen servers they have there's no reason they can't have an admin per server (rotating shifts), to just check reports, spectate and ban instantly. There is no anti-cheat at this point.
It's not up to apex to fix this! They need to ban websites from selling these cheats in the first place!
Just like COD they do nothing about cheaters, it actually feels like they encourage it in their high profile streamers.🤔 that's why i left after season 12; too many cheaters. GFYS Respawn, I'll never touch that trash Apex again. Lol🤷 I value my sanity and integrity.
I’m just wondering who even believes these ppl that they’re showing off that they’re pred and flexing it. Boosting in a game like Apex just doesn’t make sense when you don’t really get anything for being in higher ranks, except for maybe bragging rights.
It genuinely does not seem like fun to cheat.
The developers should put all cheats as an in game toggle enabled setting. Then put the players who choose to enable these in a seperate lobby (lets call it potatoe lobby). Then use ai to learn the play pattern from all such players. Then use the ai to detectect any players having extremely similar play pattern in fair lobbies. Then tag their account so that the only lobby they can join is the potatoe lobby.
I will be Posting this in as many cheat videos as possible.
HE CAN SEE YOU!!!
Is it me or have the last 2-3 seasons just gotten flooded with cheaters? Im currently plat and my pred lobbies are full of cheaters. Are all these COD cheaters jumping ship or wtf?
This is such a great vid! Shame that them man there suck, cheaters ruin the game and as someone else said, 7squads being in an entire server is crazy alr
As someone who is also plat this scares me but also explains a lot........ This game is doomed.....
making a fake vid in apex is crazy 💀
yeah i play on console in australia and its a huge issue here with 6 stacks
Xbox or ps? Because I haven’t run into any six stacks on ps5 yet. I did run into a 9 stack a few seasons ago in pubs. They kept killing each other and crafting respawn beacons. I’m guessing so they can get the 20 kill badge? They sucked hard tho so me and my team managed to kill them. I left with 8 kills lol. Imagine being so bad at a game that you have to cheat in six or 9 man’s. It’s crazy.
I really don't get and what cheaters accomplish from doing this. A pred badge?😂
When he drops out of the ship there are only 15 people in the lobby.. why tf is it even starting up?
Because the cheaters have more control over the game code than the devs 🙃
badest hacker ive ever seen
how u in every ranked game just as duo i think your the one whos hacking lol
How many actual preds are there then? Because cheaters cheat to steal a top 750 spot for the badge but its more realistic to say its top 150 for preds that dont cheat to get there, ya know?
I play on sydney all the time and this never happens to me prob cause im not in dim lobbies but ive got 3 squad match before
Welcome to the desert of the rwal
Just report him
try playing on taiwan server its all hackers spawning bots and farming then the game goes from 60 players with probably the havker squad which are bot teammates and my squad with two bot teammates as well to 4 players in 5 mins
Cheaters ughhh
Moreee pleasseee
>Can hack the server
>"Pikachu :O face" Why NO 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Ok bro 😂 They prolly just got some shit for that as well. EAC is a fkn joke tbh
When they land together. It looks like a cult conspiracy 😂
When are ppl gonna wake up and stop playing ..Season31?
Rollers are our final hope against those filthy cheaters.
ı just stopped the playing apex legends. The cheaters never gonna stop and ea never stop making new skins. This game become a bullshit, anime game. Quit if you not a streamer
What server is this?
There’s this new thing they are doing we’re the set the aimbot to only hit per say 20damage and other lower numbers consistently so it be like 20 20 15 20 25 24 24 24 20 this is meant too trick the viewer in t thinking he is legit but he’s 100% aimboting this is also called closet cheatin as opposed to rage hacking we’re it’s super obvious, so if you ever die too someone who sucks at aiming and there damage is weird like that now y’all know, hackers know it’s better to closet cheat to last longer without getting banned, I wish I could track hackers back to there house and steal there pc’s 😂😂😂 I’m done!
Why don't you report?
XD
Competitive FPS games need to just make it only playable on the cloud and take game files off peoples PC. If anyone has played a game off like Nvidia Geforce now would know.
wonderful
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Womp Womp
Cheatex legends 😂
u guys are playing sydney at like 3 in the morning our time, we all asleep thats why the games are like that. If u played during the day for us the games would be normal.
no it'd take 3 days to get a queue regardless of time wdym
even with a queue you'd get pred lobbies
wdym im australian we get fast qs in the day until midnight bruh what u mean ?? @@AliJayde
same with every server bud @@AliJayde
brainrot video
Are you starting with the stupid subtitles now too?? That is the reason I unsubscribed from Kandy. Goddamn....
some people watch without volume
no need to announce your departure :)
Second
Wich freaking servers are they playing on omg 🥹😱😂
There are so many cheaters and smurfs in this game.. And cheaters are getting worse cause most of them not show themselves (sometimes not so obvious as cheat style) as much as first seasons... And so much less people watching them after they died...
Btw. Respawn give us the "Straight Shot" mod back. I have zero patient this classic trios, duos random teammates, loot system, classic drop ship system. Hot drop or no one drop system.. etc etc.
Make the Straight shot mod permenant !!!
Why so excited. This is absolutely normal in Apex. Ea and respawn do and will never ever do anything about cheaters. Blatant cheaters everywhere and can't even ban them.
Nah Apex Needs tò fix this.problaby should hire u guys like an anti cheater task force.
Can picture Boom and Kandy running around calling themselves enforcers
1 out of every 4 players cheats at this game. Just looked it up. That's crazy. I won't ever play it again :/
Dang this is crazy😂😂😂 I wish I could spawn in with only 5 squads left! Also it was pretty funny watching this after the Algs regional finals today😂😂😂 Congrats on 20k!🥳🎉❤️🔥
how tf are they making games with 20 people
One thing i love about console is that you cant do none of this stupid shit. Its just a lot harder to execute because most console players don't have time to be doing this type of stuff. Pc players can be so degenerate sometimes
Imagine doing this for 2 months for a badge and a banner frame or $100 (if they are selling it)
obviously... you don't see that people use AI to program much more complex cheats than the current easy anti cheat (for me it's more of a parody) the only possible solution to fight against AI generated cheats is a specially trained AI that starts as a small newborn and needs a good parents what will he show him...yes here is a pro player who plays like this...and here is a cheater who uses all the things that are banned...now tell me the difference between them...BOOM the future
another problem... devs should start playing Apex because if they play it (like none of them play it, because after all they aren't bunch of loosers who sit at the computer and just play games...#big mistake) every day for at least 20 minutes so they would know that the game looks disastrous...?
EA banned my second account for no reason but don't ban cheaters!
This has been happening for years
this is why I stopped playing apex
Why are you in these servers in the first place?
I got ddossed in mixtape yesterday the exact second I took a trident over behind the enemy zone. It kept forcing me out of the trident too and I was cracked and couldn’t get away.
Comment for engagement.
Welcome to OCE
How TF do they control the amount of players in a lobby?
Cheaters can do a lot of things. They can put literal AI in games (mostly mixtape) to level them up for ranked so that they can cheat to get to masters/pred, ect. Then they sell the accounts to people. Like the cheaters don’t even have to play the game. They just spawn the AI in a mixtape game and if they get shot at they will instantly lock on and kill you, but if you don’t shoot at them at all they won’t even move. It’s bizarre so I’m kinda glad I still play on console 🤣 apart from the 6 manning stuff in ranked, luckily I haven’t seen that yet.