Actually Ayahuasca is a plant.... not a mushroom. My ex boyfriend has a huge floripondio tree with bright deep yellow colored flowers on the front porch of his house over at Desierto de los Leones just outside Mexico City. I never even knew about its properties since they don't grow (or at least not that I know of) in the north of Mexico which is where i'm from..... until he told me a story about a kid or kids who messed around with it when he was growing up and something tragic happening (sorry dont remember the details)..... but yeah.... if he wouldn't have lectured me about this particular plant I could have easily gone up to it at some point and smelled the flower just by simple inertia and curiosity do to the fact that they are big and bright and all that good stuff....
Scary thing is I work Festival Security and there's older folks growing and trying to market it as a "recreational experience" to the Gen Z kids on the Lot... It's nothing but real real bad
I did Datura years ago. Its like you enter a horror movie. Everyone you see seems dangerous and seems stronger than you. The night seems dangerous especially if you walked the woods on it like i did. You think there are witches and powerful beings hiding in the trees. All in all I liked it, but it is not euphoric, it will make you scared, but I liked the feeling of being a "weak man" in woods full of super powerful beings. Ofc there were no beings in the woods 😅
I did Datura years ago. Its like you enter a horror movie. Everyone you see seems dangerous and seems stronger than you. The night seems dangerous especially if you walked the woods on it like i did. You think there are witches and powerful beings hiding in the trees. All in all I liked it, but it is not euphoric, it will make you scared, but I liked the feeling of being a "weak man" in woods full of super powerful beings. Ofc there were no beings in the woods 😅
I’ll never forget my first time mushrooms a couple months ago and it was such a beautiful experience. It’s a game changer for severe depression and anxiety……Peace! Truly one of the most remarkable phenomenons on the planet
Since I tired psychedelics for the first time, I’ve been trying to describe the experience to others so there can try it as well, but i couldn’t find the right words to describe it.
I ate it. It's dangerous. You'll think you are say... walking with a friend. But there is no friend, it's a hallucination, and you follow the hallucination onto the freeway. Chain yourself to a tree if you do it, and not a tree in the park where the police will be called because you're gnawing the bark off it.
@@deadboysoldier sheesh its like the whole thing the drug does is make you schizo it's literally makes you see the most terrifying things you could possibly see while tricking you into believing it's reality
I did Datura 4 times. The first time, I talked to a tree for hours. I can't remember the second and third times. The fourth time the “trip” lasted 4 days. For 3 of those days I ran away from hallucinated people who wanted to stab me.
I have ingested Datura two times - once in Ecuador and once in Brazil. Datura quite literally transported me both times into new realities where very little of "me" existed and I had no conception that I was even in an altered state of consciousness. The first time I was given so much that I went unconscious for six - eight hours before waking up in a new, super fluid world of magic and spirit beings. I was actively altered for 48 hours or so and in re-integration/recovery for weeks. The experience impacts me still 30+ years later. The second time, in Manaus, Brazil, was a much smaller dose but that too impacts me to this day. In that experience I had full telepathic ability and the full ability to tele-transport myself. Happy to share more if interested. JCM
You trip so hard that you don’t even realize you took Datura. You forget, because your memories are imaginary. On Datura, you can have conversations with friends you knew from high school. You might sit there for two hours having a conversation with this good friend of yours, only to realize later that you never knew this person, and they were never in your room. You were just talking to the wall, hallucinating an entire human being with whom you believed you had an intelligent conversation. Now, people might say, "Oh, that’s crazy, that’s pretty far out there." But all that shows is hallucinations, right? No, you misunderstand. I am that hallucination. Right now, you are hallucinating my entire body and voice. I am just your mind talking to you. You’re hallucinating me right now. You hallucinated all my videos. You know, I warned you at the beginning. Do you really want to know what reality is? This is the highest teaching. I’m giving you my highest teaching. It took me over 15 years of reading, studying, thousands of hours of contemplation, meditation, going to retreats, doing powerful psychedelics, racking my mind to understand all of this, to figure it out. Here it is: my highest teaching. Number one, you are God, and there is nothing but God, and you are all alone. That’s number one. Number two, everything is imaginary. There is nothing but imagination. God is infinite consciousness-infinitely intelligent, infinitely powerful, unlimited. It is also infinitely good and infinitely loving.
"it" is also infinitely nasty,. infinitely a programming sicko.......not infinitely beautiful. More infinitely imbecilic! A bully that terrorises it's creations........proven forever more! God my ass, the only thing we see clearly (if we are not deluded or blinded by the lies it creates, are the lies it creates whilst torturing raping and starving more and more and more! Whatever you wanna call it, your designer/s are but a disgrace. They purposely programme you to suffer leaving no option but for you to believe lies........all of this is a fact for you that read this.......those that don't have these lies have other bullshit beliefs that leave you divided from the source! This is a scummy hellish programme, and nobody can deny this (have a word with all those starving and desperate)!
Yoo I have some experience with both Datura and brugmansia. I started to explore this plant when I was young and stupid just trying to get high. Even though I would do literally any drug at the time I still always used low doses and took it slow cause especially with this plant I didn't want to over do it. So I had many mild experiences but the day I decided to experience it fully I made a tea from 2 brugmansia flowers which were pink tipped white flowers cause I heard thos have less negative body feel nausea etc. I drank 1 and a half small tea cups of the tea I had boiled for only hour and immediately felt a buzz the closet I could compare it to was being tipsy on alcohol however it was very mild at that point I decided to stop cause it had come up so fast they same sensation built for the whole day. The ingestion time was either 10 or 11 in the morning I can't remember but I do vividly Remember lying on my bed at 5 in the afternoon cause I looked at the time and was feeling out of it. Like I said at this point it felt like I was blackout drunk cause when I tried to walk out my room I stumbled all down the hallway. Unlike being drunk my heads pace felt completely sober it was so weird I was telling my self to walk but I couldn't do it. This is already a super long comment but dude this experience was crazy I started hallucinating after that and it lasted all night. I ended sleeping which is one th8ng you must never do if you make the mistake of ingesting this without extensive research cause I slept for 24+ hours and my mom was convinced I was dead see also saw me go insane in my room the previous night but despite this something told her I was gonna be fine and woke up on Sunday still fucked from the brugmansia but not any hallucinations however I couldn't see anything close to me it would blur to the point were It was completely distorted. That Sunday I had a crazy rush almost like I was on meth I couldn't shut up I was pacing in circles rambling to myself for hours and it felt great tbh. 😂 but when It finally wore off I suffered short term memory damage and hppd that lasted months. The conclusion I came to was this plant is extremely powerful and thank the lords I did practice some safe usage and she gave me a confusing meaningless and slightly enjoyable experience however I then knee my time and exploration with her is done cause she is unpredictable and just too much.
Fuck deliriants bruh, that shit really do be terrifying. Ate 28 benadryl once and had black decaying hands popping out of the ground and the couch I was on grabbing me and shit. Saw my grandpa across the room on his computer but his head was fully twisted towards me. Bugs of all sort scurrying around on everything. Voices ranging from yelling at me to whispering in my ear plagued me for hours. 2/10 experience wouldn't do again.
Can you make video on "Brujos' who use psychedelic for negative purposes. Also some esoteric channeling "Ra Materia - Law Of One" explains polarity in spirituality showing there are two paths in spirituality - "Service to Others" and "Service to Self". This could explain that mostly souls on "Service to self' path would want to use Datura.
A friend drank a Angel Trumpet Tea. Same compounds i believe. After he came home he had a Party with several people. Problem is, nobody was there. As he served drinks to maybe 10 people, his mother came in real life and saw him acting "strangely" ... Glad he came back. He told, he wanted to drink a can of coca cola, he wanted to grab it, but he grabbed through it, there was no can of coca cola.
In San Diego, I once mixed the seeds of Datura wrightii with the flowers of Brugmansia arborea in a tea and went to a lake next to my house to have the trip. I believe it was that same night, that a woman actually drowned there too, because she was withdrawing from alcohol and had delirium tremens and psychosis with hallucinations of people chasing after her (this has happened to her before, she works at a local fancy Italian restaurant). Well she wound up in the water on the lake's south-side, naked somehow, and deceased due to drowning but I don’t think anyone knows what time of night exactly. This was in February of 2021. Strangely, aside from the delirium part, this is how a lot of people are found to be deceased from Datura and similar nightshades historically speaking. It’s very common for people to end up found in the wake of a 3-day long, demented and noxious ordeal in bodies of water without clothes. This is arguably, because scopolamine-heavy nightshades like Datura cause an intense *overheating* feeling and fever, and you just “feel very hot” which is why witches and sorcerers and necromancers have traditionally, since the late Middle Ages at least; oftentimes also incorporated wolfsbane into the picture (usually only in transdermal ointments) because wolfsbane poisoning causes the opposite effect. It conversely causes a hypothermic, very very cold feeling. So this counterbalances not only the overheating of the scopolamine, but also the tachycardia because wolfsbane also causes a deathly bradycardia (slow heart rate) on top of that. Herbal concoctions in witchcraft are largely oriented around this idea of “antidotal” or allopathic 'strategies' if you will, and counterbalancing poisons with even more poisons through these herbal nature-based strategies. It’s very much about, like; 'cunningness' and pharmacognosy, and bioprospecting and wildcrafting. And Datura-esque nightshades in general just give very plant-oriented types of trip experiences. But also very underworld-oriented, superstitious, magical/witchy and lofty. I could really see this myself especially when listening to music on datura for some reason. Very 'wizard-like' at some points even. I've had very deep, magical, and sacred experiences with this plant. Malevolence (maleficium) is also a huge part of it. It’s all about like sorcery.. and power, and duplicity. 'Treachery' itself may be a genuine theme too looking back.. Asceticism also comes from Datura though too. Especially the hermitry and wandering aspects. But yeah so the whole 'ascetic' thing actually originated from a kind of proto-ascetic 'ordealism' initially, which embraced purposeful and 'dutiful' inductions of dysphoria and bane intentionally. Which, as a theme, first came from Datura and certain poisons but datura/nightshades are almost always, seemingly the most likely cultural etiologies for such things because of the way they present these very tropes archetypally, semiotically, and intersubjectively. Datura has a vastly complex, deep, and for lack of a better term; supernatural array of themes and archetypes or conceptual motifs, at times just as explicit as with that of ayahuasca or psilocybin mushrooms, cacti, etc. Datura and its other, dark botanical cousins serve as the official/unofficial emblem(s) for the Left-Hand Path in magic.
1- Very cool insights on old school herbalism. 2- Funny you mention "left hand" because one of the bigger datura advocates I've ever met was an LHP occultist type. I suspect it takes a very particular type of person to enjoy the vibe this stuff gives. 3- But out of curiosity since you seem to have had positive experiences... how exactly do you arrive at dosing? Deciding how much to take, etc? Seems that's one of the things that gets a lot of experimenters in trouble...
@@FromNothingICome It was incredibly intriguing and fairly life-changing due to the general, broad, kind of entheogenic paradigm shift and overall shift in my worldview. But I wouldn't call it "positive" or really anything even close to 'positive', at least with regard to my very first trip encounter with it. It was certainly an intensely fulminated and noxious ordeal state of very flagrant poisoning and toxidrome, and it has a very dark and freaky vibe generally. I mean, if I actually listed ALL the negative side effects for you (puking oxidized blood, fulminate 'attacks' of feeling pure bane and dysphoria, agitation, akathisia, sundown syndrome for weeks, writhing and grimacing, superventricular tachyarrhythmias, etc.) just from the first trip in 2018 alone, you'd probably seriously question why I would ever do it again after that or not at least just perpetually condemn it publicly. I guess the main reason it interests me so endlessly is primarily because of the recurring archetypes and motifs namely. I truly didn't expect Datura or the other scopolamine-based nightshades to actually have an underlying, semiotic, "archetypal schema" (intentionality) or "deep-structure" beneath the more surface-level effects and symptoms. So I'm really, mostly just a 'sucker' for the themes and tropes conveyed by the plant and its "message" about magic/sorcery and power. It just feels very Old World and medieval, like something out of Late Medieval or Early Modern folklore. I went in with a 'shamanic' sensibility or mentality at first, but I honestly saw almost nothing within the experience itself that felt commensurate or representative of "shamanism" or spirituality. Instead is was something straight out of 1690s Salem, Massachusetts or something. As for dosing, I mean there really is no 'perfect' method. But online consensus and other forms of consensus among most all of the relevant groups typically spells to me that generally, the only really 'consistent', or at least; relatively or "most" consistent part of the plant in terms of toxicity and potency tends to be the dried seeds, probably after seed capsule dehiscence has taken place. Now my first trip in 2018, which lasted like 36 hours and was an all-out ordeal, but also my most "archetypal" and thematic nightshade experience of all was with only 3 modest-sized leaves. So from what I can tell, leaves and flowers and all those *other* parts tend to vary in potency so dramatically that one can't really rationally even guesstimate potency from those parts of the plant. But you tend to have more 'predictable' outcomes from a given number of seeds (5 - 20 for starting) than other parts of the plant. But seasonality also matters a lot, with some American Indian tribes completely avoiding use of sacred datura in the mid or late Summer months because it was considered "too strong" when harvested at this time of year. Not gonna lie though, I have personally exploited this "late Summer = more potent" strategy to get more effect from less seeds. Keep in mind, this quasi-"advice" pertains only to Datura, not other hallucinogenic nightshade specimens. And it arguably even varies to some extent when contrasting different species of Datura. For example, wrightii is unique in that the roots of the plant are abnormally potent.
Back in 2001, me and a friend stripped a young Brugmansia Suoveolens plant and put it in a blender with melon and just started scooping. I cant remember much of the experience, but I recall having conversations with friends, and even dead people that appeared and disapeared on and on and on. Three days later my mom found me all alone talking to diffrent people and smoking imaginary ciggarettes, and my friend had broken into a car completely naked and got arrested and taken to emergancy.
On California jimsonweed one time on 2018, it had me wandering around this canyon (classic datura symptom) and it felt like I was near/around "the Underworld" or just "the realm of the dead and/or of ghosts" or something, and it felt like I was right about to, or like more than halfway to being able to communicate with and literally "talk to dead people/ghosts" somehow, and it felt connected to sorcery in a big way. But unfortunately this feeling or impression never progressed into anything more intense or full-blown. Still though.. I understand it now. Its chthonic associations, which I had no idea of before and I definitely did not know of necromancy before all this, which is what Datura, Brugmansia and all these other witchy nightshades are infamous for.
Psychedelics are serotonergic- 5HT2A agonists, with some action at the 5HT2C receptor as well. Datura (more specifically, scopalamine) is an anticholinergic; a muscinaric acetylcholine receptor antagonist. These types of drugs are deliriants, the only true hallucinogens. This is why they are often conflated with psychedelics, as psychedelics once carried the name "hallucinogens," despite that they rarely cause anything beyond phosphenes and pseudohallucinations.
In India Datura grows everywhere and nobody cares about them. Legend has it Lord Shiva used to trip on it. In India it is also used in festival ceremony of Shiva as an offering. I have seen many women taking Datura flowers from plants growing right outside my house on "Shivaratri" to offer Shiva. They used to say it's his favourite flower
It is like late/last stage of dementia, talking to people who aren't there, seeing things or animals that aren't there or aren't alive anymore, Not remembering what just happened moments ago, getting absolutely lost walking where you always walk. It is like a waking dream that is more often a nightmare, watching worms and fire covering walls or buildings. It is not fun, and wouldnt give it to my worst enemy..even if they deserve it. You will lose days of your life and your brain will never be the same. I know people who had heart attacks on it, I know someone who came to "woke up) on a mountain hundreds of miles from where they were and no idea how they got there.
i live in the southern US in the state of Alabama and we have a version of this that grows on the roadsides we call it Jimsonweed. i know of a few guys back in the 80s that tried a teaspoonful of the seeds and ended up with the Rescue Squad searching for them in the woods. and being found alive 3 or 4 days later naked with scratches all over them. i have tried several other "heroic things" but this one i will not touch.
There's a story about settlers using it in a salad. It either killed them or after weeks of sickness, rendered them permanently insane. I kinda regret taking 2c-b the second time but Jimsonweed never appealed to me.
@@nunyadambiznes675 It just doesn't have the properties I'd associate with a "recreational" drug. Crazy "bodyfrys" and visuals I'd associate with fear and anxiety with a Persian carpet effect where structures appeared to surround me. I've really enjoyed taking large doses of 2c-i multiple times and while 2c-b was interesting that first time, the second time seemed excessive... I mean I ended up spending several days in a locked psych-unit. But I'll be honest, it was the Lexapro prescription that I regret since it's probably what migrated me from Type 2 Bipolar to the rare and sought after Type 1. Now I take OXcarbazepine as a mood stabilizer which for months was like being on a 2c-i drip but six years on, you wouldn't believe how dull it's become. Xanax would probably be my second regret if I was making a list. But I learned one thing from smoking crack: that Xanax was going to ruin my life worse than I already had.
It seems like there's a very specific dose that you must achieve, and it seems almost all-or-nothing with this entity. I've eaten several seeds at once (probably 1/4 tsp) with no effects whatsoever... and then I hear of people falling off the deep end with 1 tsp.
@@trentcooper1271 It was a white powder made in a lab. %99.997 pure. The doses were in the low milligrams at that point. I remember one gram of the 2c-i I had was 66 doses and the 2c-c was a similar potency. Although half doses were enough for most people. This was before any of them were scheduled so more "reputable" domestic labs sold high quality research chemicals.
Brugmansia is not Datura. All the images shown are Brugsmania. Sure, they share some tropane alkaloids and are both nightshades, but they are different plants.
Everyone I know or knew who knew of Datura was so scared of it that I do not know any users. So I cannot give second hand (much less first hand) accounts. However, the reason everyone was scared of it was the story of one Datura user who poked both of her eyes out during a trip - apparently because she was convinced that looking with her eyes would make some evil come to this world and the only way to save herself and humanity was to blind herself. Something I learned from all my experiments: None of these drugs can give you anything that you do not have in yourself. They can only take away, psychedelics take away the noise filters in our brains causing us to see things our subconscious mind would normally suppress. This can lead to meaningful discovery, but you do not need anything to get make those discoveries. Taking psychedelics to advance your mind is like jumping under a waterfall if you are thirsty. Yes you get some water in your mouth and the risks can be calculated. But if you know how to drink, that’s not the best way.
Wonderfully put and explained. I have practically no experience with psychedelic substances other than when a guy gave me a rollie (cigarrette) laced with K2, knowing I'd never done drugs. I did not ask for it nor did I have any idea he'd done so. He wanted my body despite my staunch "no's" all the times he asked, and this was how he did it. When it hit me, the "high" was the most traumatic experience of my life, even more traumatic than the physical experience of being taken by the guy while I was helpless from it. It was like my brain... broke. I'm on the Spectrum, high functioning, and have always had an academic and philosophical mind, with an IQ in MENSA. In other words, my mind is my sanctuary. This destroyed that. I was hearing colors and smelling sounds, time was repeating in loops in which I perceived the same events around me multiple times in repition, I was aware of every atom in my body, and felt like they were changing shapes from triangles to circles to squares. When they were triangles, I felt sharp and angular, like my body had morphed into an angular form, and an overhwelming sense of "sharp" sensations from all my sensory inputs. When my atoms turned to circles, I felt soft and round, with the absolute sensations of softness and "bubbly" feeling. As squares, I felt like I was firm and linear, locked into place, and blocky. My senses were just overwhelmed by these extreme sensations/ feelings/ perceptions, and my neurons were all firing the wrong ways to the wrong places. As if my sense of sight suddenly switched neuro pathways to the part of my brain that interpreted taste. Etc. As I mentioned, the guy took full advantage of this, and left me with intimate injuries. And while that itself has taken me years to heal from and cope with, the trauma of the high itself gave me a literal PHOBIA of any drugs that affect your mind, even weed. I won't smoke anything except nicotine (which I shouldn't), and the only other "drugs" I've done are pain killers for when I had Heart Cancer in my early 20s (which is when this happened), and my ADHD med which gives energy potently. However, my husband is highly addicted to K2 due to severe grief. He lost his entire direct family within 16 months. 8 people, including his mother, his mom's twin sister, his brother, his grandfathers, his best friend, and others. He is in such grief over it, he has fallen into severe addiction to K2, and anything else he can. I don't know how to help him. We're both about to be 30, and at the rate he's going, he's not going to make it much longer. I feel powerless. He doesn't WANT to stop, he wants everything to end because life hurts too much for him now. He's said so repeatadly. Any advice?
The story of the datura tripper who dug out her eyes is an urban legend first related as a PCP user back in the Sixties.. It gets revived every new psychedelic craze.
@@JadusMoltriel this sounds terrifying, my heart goes out to you. My wife lost her best friend to alcohol, who also knew she was going to die when she kept drinking and she couldn’t make herself stop until it was too late, leaving behind a 4 kids, one of them 6 years old. First: think about what you can and cannot do. You are closest to him, but that does *not* make you the person in the best position to help him. If you pressure him to much, he will feel like losing you too, making life even more bleak and reinforcing his behavior. This means you need outside counsel so someone else is having the uncomfortable conversation and you can remain on his side - not by enabling his self destructive behavior, that you should never pretend to agree with - but by being there for his emotional struggle with his loss without judging. Second: Find some motivation in him that is still left, maybe he doesn’t want to inflict the same grief he has on you and that is an angle you can reach him? Third: K2 side effects are the exact depression you are describing. So maybe his despair is a result of his abuse and not the other way around, but to find out he would need to stop using for a few weeks. If he is willing to influence his psyche by using drugs, he might be willing to experiment with other things - I do not know what he would be open to but spirituality, yoga, meditation, sports, music, art, travel are things that can also influence and he might be open to trying. And lastly: Do not despair. It is very hard to really harm yourself with K2, you do have time. Don’t panic. Your husband needs you as his anchor, as a calming and loving presence that provides hope and stability. You got this, you two will get through this and emerge stronger.
@@stealthshopper2092 It has to do with the Black Cube of Saturn. It may be like a soul-catching device. We keep getting recycled here on Earth, but we shouldn't be.
my friend took motion sickness pills the whole package he said he was in a house watching cartoons on TV and enjoying it then the TV vanished and he realized it had never been there to begin with. He said it was like a dream world while you are awake. all our lives living in a dream world. Tripping isn't much different from what we are doing now. "Morpheus: Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?" "Please, don't spoil my day (Ooh-ooh-ooh) I'm miles away And after all (Ooh, woo-ooh) I'm only sleeping" its better to be asleep, being awake feels like madness.
A big problem is that there are many Daturas. D. Stramonium, the classic Jimson Weed is an annual in temperate countries.There are several annual daturas , all causing mostly unpleasant delerium. The New England tribes like the Mohawk used it as an adolescent rite of passage . The youth remained in a dark lodge for one month with Datura juice in all their food and water.When they emerged from the womblike darkness they were reborn as young adults of the tribe. The perennial Tree Daturas ,the Brugmansias we see as ''Angel Trumpets'' have a somewhat different chemical makeup. They are the most revered Entheogen used in Colombia's ''Sibundoy Valley '' ,the most psychedelic region in South America.The tree daturas are the only ones to be used if you simply must try it. The soft green outer skin of flexible young twigs is scraped off and juice squeezed from it. Seems like nobody takes more than a half a shot glass of it. That much works very well.
It's like the Angel's Trumpet. It's very common here in the Philippines. I remember when I was a kid a lot of people were using it but after many people went totally crazy, it went out of mainstream. You can still see abundance of these plants everywhere but no one dares to use them for tripping. It just now a house decorative plant/tree
Alright but let's also not try to compare delirium with schizophrenia. They are so.. demonstrably different. Schizophrenia is a delusory fantasy-driven (sometimes hypomanic) state, and a kind of mental *fragmentation* and disorganization or lack of grace or harmony with respect to thought, perception and affectivity. Delirium on the other hand is more like a mental *sickness* and is a severe lowering of consciousness and much more flustering and inebriating. Schizophrenia is a disordered and debilitating type of mental conditioning yes, but you can still like.. live your life for the most part. Delirium on the other hand is not something you can even drive or operate machinery during, and is considered a sign of something very serious. Clinically, the presentation would look much closer to dementia or heck, even the mental sequela of rabies would be comparatively closer to anticholinergic delirium than a "schizophrenic" anything. Delirium is an extreme state of affliction. It's what people feel when they're being poisoned or have a high fever or during terminal restlessness when they're literally on death's door. Schizophrenia isn't even in the same universe.
I've done scopolamine via moonflower seeds around 15 times and no it absolutely is not a psychedelic and I definitely went somewhere else each and Everytime... Like it would be day time and I'd be in a car but that's not what I'd be experiencing instead id absolutely 100% feel, think and see that I was at a huge house party during the night talking to my dead friends and relatives like it was normal. I'd feel possessed for days after and couldn't read anything for a week. I have some CRAZY stories from my time on moonflower. This story is definitely the simplest and most benign of all of them
I’ve done it several times probably about five times when I was 17 or 18 I tried it for the first time and then I did it like three or four more times. We were just stupid kids so I wouldn’t recommend it to anybody. But what’s weird about it is You completely forget that you took a drug so you take everything you see it face value as if that’s really happening. So you’ll see somebody standing there and you’ll be having a complete conversation with them and then you’ll blink and they’ll be gone and you’ll be kind of confused about it like, where did they go? Where did they Go? A very common thing that I’ve talked to several people about that I’ve had this experience is they’ll be smoking a cigarette, and all of a sudden the cigarette will disappear and you’ll be looking around for the cigarette because you don’t want it to burn the carpet. It was never there at all. . At the time one of these hallucinations happened I wasn’t even currently a smoker, but I had been a smoker in the past but during this particular trip, I wasn’t smoking at the time but it sure look like I was. It’s almost like you’re dreaming with your eyes open. I got this sense from doing it that we are always dreaming even when we walk around, but you just sort of go into that realm when you actually go to sleep at night and that becomes the dominant matrix that you’re acting in. So when people see things that aren’t there, it’s like your dreams are imposing themselves onto this reality where normally they’re kept in a different compartment but there’s a bleed over that’s happening. Another thing that’s very weird is that you can be looking at a tree, but it’s not a tree even though in reality it’s a tree But when you’re looking at it, you’ll see a perfectly formed human standing there. I was having a conversation with my friend and then I watched my friend literally morph into a tree right before my eyes. But the tree was actually there the whole time, but there was no tree when I was talking to my friend. There was only my friend. I would see a tree or a bush sort of break off part of itself, and that part would walk around and then blend into a different tree or bush, but when it was walking around, it looked like a tree, but humanoid shaped. So this is a completely different experience with the tree than the one when the tree turned into my friend or vice versa. so it was almost like a person made out of trees walking around, so it didn’t look humanoid except for the shape so if you could imagine a human that was completely made out of wood and leaves walking around, that’s kind of what it look like. Another thing that happened was I went in the bathroom to try to pee, which is very uncomfortable because you feel like you have to pee, but you can’t or very little will come out and after I got done with that situation as I am leaving the bathroom and I look in the mirror and my reflection waves at me and says hello even though I was just standing there. So I don’t think that’s weird at all and I say hello back to the mirror and then I start having a conversation with the reflection in the mirror which is moving independently of me. And then some part of me knew that this was not normal and I thought to myself that’s strange. My reflection shouldn’t be talking to me. And so I left but keep in mind the whole time. I didn’t even know that I was on the drug. Another thing that can happen is you can have a hallucination that you and your friend can see if you’re both on the drug. I heard this man deep breathing in the living room of my friends house. My friend was in his room and so I walk out to see what is going on, and there was a skinny old man wearing an American flag top hat, a tie-dyed shirt and he has a small black dog and the dog is just sniffing around on the floor. Why was there an old man with a small dog just kind of walking around in my friends living room? Well I thought that was kind of weird so I went to get my friend and I told him that there was someone in his house. He goes out there and peaks around the corner and saw the same man with the same dog in his living room and his jaw hit the floor when he came back to tell me he saw the man. The next day when we were sober, we described what the man look like and what he was wearing, and because he was wearing such a unique outfitwhen we compared notes it was obvious that we both saw the same thing. I seriously doubt some random old man just came and stood in my friends living room with his dog.😂 OK maybe that happened but I seriously doubt it. I made pancakes while I was on the datura. Keep in mind it was microwave pancakes that you just had to throw in the microwave for a few minutes, but for some reason, I didn’t understand that you were supposed to put the syrup on the pancakes and so I started drinking the syrup from the bottle instead of putting it on the pancakes. I have so many stories about that stuff, but this is getting kind of long.
I was minding a friends toddler, and suddenly realised he was missing. I spent hours in a panic travelling all over Sydney looking for him. None of that actually happened. Don’t do it.
over 30 years ago I ate some flowers for a dare when I was very drunk on alcohol....Dont remember anything at all...came to in my home, miles from where I was. The walls of my bathroom were splattered with tomatoes from my garden....I have no recollection at all of what happened to me......NEVER AGAIN......DONT TAKE IT
Psychedelics definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them but it's just hard to source out here.
I was having this constant and unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came across Ted Winston, a very intelligent mycologist, He saved my life honestly.
Can you help me with the reliable source a. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, l'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Australia. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.
The trips I've been having have really helped me a lot, I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have a lot more empathy as well….
Bruh I'm still in skippidy middle school so I find this funny af bro 😂😂😂💀💀💀 I have the mental capacity of a goldfish. And my parents act like children and never do their job. LMAO 💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡
Datura should be clearly isolated as a deleriant and not a psychedelic... It is NOT a classic tryptamine and unlike the tryptamine family of compounds Datura is no where near a hand in glove fit with human consciousness. Terrence used to say if you take a drug and 3 days later your still not seeing clearly and are wobbly in the knees its probably a good indication its not a good fit and a good reason to stay the hell away.... I would put salvia into this catagory as well... No wonder people get damaged or physically harmed by it... Last person I saw take the stuff wound up in jail after wondering into a strangers home completely unaware of what was happening and asked the lil old lady who lived there to make him a cheeseburger (at least thats what the police said).... Just stick to the tryptamines and you wont wake up in jail 3 days later wondering wtf happened...
I have a little experience with Brugmansia, but only in small doses mixed with cannabis, pretty interesting and beautiful plant, I also read that these were planted around the borders of living areas for protection. I initially used it on and off to give cannabis a different spin, I also tried every day for a week at one time, The effects accumulate if you use it everyday and by the end of the week I definitely felt the delirium effect. The dosage was a little bit of brugmansia flower mixed into a straight cannabis joint, maybe 1/8th brug 7/8 cannabis
So crazy you posted this! I’ve been reading and listening to everything on the subject and just noticed a datura plant right outside my work. Also had to pick up a prescription this last weekend and saw a few boxes of scopolamine which is a tropane alkaloid used to treat motion sickness. Very interesting stuff! Great vid Tom 🤙🏼😁
When i was very young, i was in the university, and walking with some friends...and i suddenly found a very big, kinda fragant, white trumpet flower in the floor, in the street. "wow beautiful flower!" i said...and then one of the classmates who was with us said "hey give me that, is a floripondio, this can be a terrifing drug if you dont have care!" so i ended with only a little piece of a petal, who i sealed forever in plastic incide a book, like a weird memory. Love from Chile.
I agree it is Dangerous, but if someone gets lost in an Astro projection and can’t find there way back, you can use that one to find them and bring them back
In theme of this video I did many psychedelics but my most intense trip ironically was weed induced. When I was younger I didn’t realize dosage and ended up consuming 1200mg edibles which induced the most intense delirium/psycosis compared to other experiences I had. I still remember it to this day and it’s been 8 years
Buddy of mine had some around 2009. He recalls us hanging out and smoking cigarettes for a bit before I went home, shortly thereafter he blacked out. He came to wearing a trenchcoat with a Goodwill receipt in the right pocket. An amtrak conductor had woken him up in Boston, we lived in Philly. I was at work that day, and neither of us smoke.
I ate it and almost went blind. My friend and I thought it was Belladonna so we ate the flowers . It was a terrible experience. I felt like I was stuck and could not see anything around me. And not like it was a beautiful psychedelic shade over my sight. It was a blur like everything was smudging and I couldn’t even control my movements. I had a lot of experience traveling through the psychedelic world. This is so dangerous. It’s not a psychedelic it causes people to become delerious to the point of ( for me losing my eye sight) and feeling poisoned. It was a nightmare.
i did this once, we had planned to go out and do some stuff while on it but i couldn’t stay awake. Apparently i just slept but in my mind we actually had a full night out on the town. it was so real. the only downside i personally had was my pupils were so dilated for three days and i couldn’t see close up of anything. all a blur.
I once rubbed a very small amount between two fingers, having the question in me what it is like. I smelled that smell even twenty years later on myself sometimes. Quite different than the smell of the flowers, which i really love. I can hardly Imagine a scenario, where i would ingest this plant voluntarily, althought i love it somehow.
Awesome! I love these Datura videos. I like how you added the Terence McKenna clip too 👍 If there was a way to experience a datura trip without any of the negative effects I might do it.
I have one in my garden, pretty common here. It's a nocturnal flower so the smell is very strong during the night, sweet and intoxicating. I never had the interest in trying it, there are plenty of other, safer plants to explore but I like having one around the house.
I've got some information about Scopo/Datura being used in the music festival scene that I don't even know if I could discuss with full anonymity guaranteed ,as I work Security and the situations are ongoing and delicate surrounding its seemingly unexplainable meteoric rise in proximity, availability, and mefarious use/attempts to pass it off to the youth as recreational... You are SPOT ON when you say it's about black magick. It's very dark stuff, and the rabbit hole goes deep and has many twisted branches.
Where I live there are several of the same family as this Datura flowers, we call them floricundas, floripondio or trompeta de ángel (angel's trumpet). People use it just as Tom's friend describes it: under the pillow. Nevertheless there have been cases of people not being able to sleep and just making floricunda tea... as you can guess this poeple end up intoxicated and some have died because of it's ingestion. Be careful, people. Don't go around messing with stuff just because somebody promised you a nice trip or a good night sleep. You can end up never waking up.
I’m guessing that the plant produces those chemicals as an insecticide to protect itself from pests. Though they may have the purpose of deterring larger organisms as well.
I was under the influence of about seventy-eighty seeds of datura inoxia... I talked to Asterix, who came out of the door of my old high school's teacher's room's door and "he" was like a "carved out figure" of the material of that door, but he stepped out from that door AND the door was still unharmed and whole! And the talk between us lasted for half an hour! THIS IS A SCARY STUFF!!! NEVER DO IT!!! I had very powerful experiences from all kinds of drugs (so you don't have to do it after me) and it's literally the MOST DANGEROUS of all!!! Please, never even consider to try this shit!
I would rename this video to something like "The Scariest Hallucinogen of all Time" instead of using the word 'psychedelic'. This plant is not even remotely close to a psychedelic, instead it is (as stated in the video) a deliriant.
The ones where I live grow on the ground with a more white flower. Occasionally there are tinges of blue or purple on them. They look like the sacred herb on black panther, but not glowing purple. Based on the reports I've read, I will never dare to sample this plant. However, there is a song by Buckethead named Datura that is beautiful and haunting and definitely worth a listen. Check it out.
Thank you, very interesting ❤ I'd love to find more about these strange psychoactive plants... But sorry I need to say that this is actually Brugmansia and not Datura. One can distinguish them by Datura's flowers which are standing upwards, compared to Brugmansia's flowers which hang downwards as you see in the video. Datura's also do usually not grow older than 1-2 years and stay quite small, while Brugmansia's can grow quite tall, treelike and far older.
I was really stupid as a teenager and took a bunch of benadryl (on multiple occasions) to try and trip. I'm grateful that I didn't have one of those terror trips, it was interesting though I must say. I was talking to my friend in a car, and they transformed to someone else mid conversation and I thought I was talking to another friend. Then I snapped out of it when he asked "Ryan? I'm not ryan". I was just as shocked as them and told them about it. Then later I came home and my parents bought taco bell. I was so effed that I just grabbed my food and dipped up to my room asap. I was trying to play skyrim and remember vaguely talking to my tacos while slipping in and out of consciousness in the weirdest trance like state. The hangover is the worst ever though, I don't recommend it to anyone lol in case you are wanted to try it. I also tried nutmeg multiple times that was also weird...
I can tell you from experience this plant is very powerful when eaten or made into teas in my experience I would not recommend it I barely remember any of those trips I talked to people who would suddenly disappear, and would smoke disappearing cigarettes, and hear parots, I could not focus my eyes to read for 3 days. That said I have never gotten any effects from simply smelling the flower and I love the way angel trumpet and hells bells smell, I have gotten mild dreamy effects from smoking it, but I fucked around with a bunch when I was a teenager and in my early 20's so I nay have developed a tolerance, and I only ever use it ritual context anymore smoked usually mixed with a little weed.
@@TowgPowerPlay Good to hear. Was kinda just an attempt at dark humour, suggesting that maybe all this is just part of the delirium that maybe your child self is still in
@@Alastair539 nah the leaves tend to be way less potent than the seeds. If I had eaten the seeds, things may have gotten a lot more serious. Or the Detura goddess took pitty on me, which someone had offered as another possible explanation lol. Or maybe im still tripping and youre not even real lol. I highly doubt I've been tripping for the last 15 years though.
Reminds me of high dose diphenhydramine (Benadryl). Those are some of the scariest trips in my life. Hallucinating random people talking to me, spiders crawling on the wall, having phone calls that never actually happened, petting a cat that didn't actually exist, hearing my phone ringing when it wasn't and many other things. I'll never touch a delirious drug again. Datura is definitely not a psychedelic
I really enjoyed this, Tom! Would you ever think about making a video on Salvia divinorum? I believe it has so much potential for a lot of good, but it's overlooked by societies egos. I'd be excited to hear your thoughts on this!
angel trumpets were growing everywhere in the parks here in Austria and teenagers often used them to trip. nowadays they have replaced them with other plants because of that. some of my older friends used them to make tea and get high. (i was too young at that point) but they all were tripping for days wich felt like years and as many others wrote in the comments, they did not realize that they were tripping and some cant remember what happened and where they had been the last days. gladly nobody was hurt or got crazy.
"It is not entirely accurate to call Datura a psychedelic drug, as it belongs to a different category of hallucinogens called deliriants rather than psychedelics" -ChatGPT
I did it once and it didn't seem to have an effect at first so I went to sleep and woke up hours later and realized something was actually happening thing twisting a little and kinda springing in and out. It wasn't pleasant or psychedelic.
Don Juan's mix also had the bugs that live on the plant, perhaps some antidote to the more toxic parts, and was just painted on the skin. Salvia is the bomb.
As an avid lover of psychedelics I have tried this on 3 separate occasions with increasing amounts and each time I can report - no effect, except the 3rd time when I became quite ill from the large amount at about the 40 minute mark for about an hour or so. What I think really happened is that I couldn't tell the difference between what was real and what was imagined. It's pointless people telling me I didn't see that person or thing when clearly I did. I am only grateful I didn't - as far as I know - get myself into some of the trouble other users have experienced including a couple of my friends.
From all the trip reports I read and heard I came across only one that seemed to be enjoyable for the person. Didn't sound like it from the story, but to each their own :DD
Datura is deliriant which is subclass category of hallucinogens. Sorry for nitpicking but traditionals psychedelics tend to be heavenly and gentle compared to deliriants. Edit: Seen u mention it in video haha but still named psychedelic in title of video will give u comments like this
Wasn't there some viral video from back in the day of a guy on a Datura trip that his brother filmed, and then they rewatched it years later or something? I feel like I stumbled across that somewhat recently...
It amazes me that people take the time to look up datura, see all the fucking crazy stories, and STILL decide to take it. Nothing like tripping in terror while your throat is burning and you are thirsty but can’t quench your thirst for like a day or two
i actually had a datura contact high and broke through LOL it was fun !! i did go fucking insane though LOL but like a manic kind of insane not paranoid !! gave me a really nicew understanding of the plant and a more intense respect and admiration of it. if i had gone back in time n told me two years ago that id unintentionally do this shit in the future theyd be fucking TERRIFIED loool i preformed a ritual and treated it with the upmost respect as soon as i found out what id done. and in return mister datura respected me. more people need be aware of the simple contact high from rubbing the leaves because its so much safer. if youre so determined id recommend this rather than the fucking moronic act of eating the seeds but datura wants to be left alone he/she/they are retired. they told me this personally. theyre fed up with greed. sometimes i feel the temptation to go back and it makes me want to cry its like getting an intrusive thought about abusing my animals and i need to fight it. theyre not a scary plant. i want to cultivate them any chance i get !!
For what I know, Brugmansia can give you some effect just by smelling it. The two species of Datura I've seen don't smell a lot. Also in the potato family it's said that Mandragora can affect your mind just by touching the plant.
I've used this a handful of times in an attempt to explore a living nightmare where no structure of thought exists and the husk of human identity you can barely maintain your white knuckle grasp upon is desperately trying (but failing) to outrun or at least look away from the horrific patterns that you are now almost certain have attached themselves to your mind by way of thorny tentacles. Very hard to extrapolate, let alone remember any kind of lesson or meaning from such utterly maddening stimuli. Minds with any kind of frailty or questionsble constitution are almost guaranteed permanent damage. That's not to say there is any leniency for arrogance. A pompous attitude of superiority will only draw more attention from whatever darkness is controlling that tornado of psychosis. Im not saying that any way is a good way of administering this plant. But, this is how i prepared it. I cut the thorny pods from the plant shortly after flowering and removed all the seeds. I then laid the seeds out on some brown paper bags and let them dry in some diffused sunlight. When dry, i ground them into a powder and combined them with 2 parts beeswax and 1 part olive oil and 1 part petroleum jelly in a pot on low heat. I continued to stir occasionally for a few hours until the mixture appeared homogeneous or well combined. When cooled, i rubbed small amounts on thin dermal areas of my body and allowed the alkaloids to enter my bloodstream. I was told this method restricts the absorption of atropine which may reduce the risk of heart related complications. This is due to the fact that scopolamine can be absorbed transdermally and atropine cannot. But, honestly - there are waaaaaay better ways to lose 15 hours of your life. I don't advise fucking with this in any recreational manner. It will make you regret your mistake forever.
I have a friend who accidentally took about 10 doses in one time. A whole parties dose which he drank. He went a bit crazy from our perspective. But from his perspective he just didnt know what was real or a dream. It was all merging together. Like his brain was forcing him to dream while awake which then mixed with the sensory inputs. He was seen to talk to people who were not there etc. And then for months if not years after this event whenever he got drunk he would have relapses. It profoundly affected his normal waking life and ability to cope with normal life for years. I lost track of him years ago. I hope hes doing better these days.
i have tried a low dose of datura before (although i ate the flowers and not the seeds). i had terrible blurry vision and had auditory hallucinations which while not scary, felt very real, so i'd often end up replying to voices that weren't really there. also had a bit of nausea and was generally really restless. although again, this was a low dose, so i was spared from the worse effects. i still wouldn't recommend it to anyone, it was very annoying and had no recreational value whatsoever
A use that isnt spoken of a lot but is practiced in eastern asia is using datura as a pain killer. It unfortunately damages your liver or it would be a perfect pain killer. I did speak to someone who used it as a painkiller for about a year and got liver damage from it.
The bag of Mushrooms in my Closet is a Psychedelic, What your talking about is Same as Taking a Bottle Of DPH or Even The Hat Man Challenge with handful’s of Benadryl . GypsumSeeds is another Good one to take lol
@@muscleman125 Yeah there's even quite a few people out there actually into it. Benzedrex (polyhexedrine or whatever it is now) is OTC and a pretty potent drug, though not a hallucinogen. DXM is obviously one of the best/oldest examples, and one of the better ones.
I got a few beauties growing around my house. They smell wonderful and feed the larvae of the Sphinx Moth. Remember Carlos's encounter with the moth? Anyway, i wouldn't want anybody to experience it.
I tried jimsonweed when I was 19. 3 days of hell. I couldn't quench my thirst. I just drank water and peed. I was hallucinating, but it was not pleasurable. It was hard to read and drive for about 2 days afterwards.
From what I know, you can't know the dose of the seeds, so I wouldn't try it. Otherwise, I would try it if I had a tripsitter for 48 hours and correct dosage.
I smoke Datura-dried flowers before sleep. Dreams are intensive and it calms you down like CBD. It grows everywhere where I live, the flowers are white colour and have a nice smell.
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This is lack luster documentary on the subject.... Have you tried the seeds? It's a deliriant. It's used to make Benadryl.
Excellent documentary though seriously. 😮
Umm no mate your a clout chaser
Actually Ayahuasca is a plant.... not a mushroom.
My ex boyfriend has a huge floripondio tree with bright deep yellow colored flowers on the front porch of his house over at Desierto de los Leones just outside Mexico City. I never even knew about its properties since they don't grow (or at least not that I know of) in the north of Mexico which is where i'm from..... until he told me a story about a kid or kids who messed around with it when he was growing up and something tragic happening (sorry dont remember the details)..... but yeah.... if he wouldn't have lectured me about this particular plant I could have easily gone up to it at some point and smelled the flower just by simple inertia and curiosity do to the fact that they are big and bright and all that good stuff....
Datura is what people who haven’t done psychedelics think psychedelics are.
Scary thing is I work Festival Security and there's older folks growing and trying to market it as a "recreational experience" to the Gen Z kids on the Lot... It's nothing but real real bad
Is that so...
I did Datura years ago. Its like you enter a horror movie. Everyone you see seems dangerous and seems stronger than you. The night seems dangerous especially if you walked the woods on it like i did. You think there are witches and powerful beings hiding in the trees. All in all I liked it, but it is not euphoric, it will make you scared, but I liked the feeling of being a "weak man" in woods full of super powerful beings. Ofc there were no beings in the woods 😅
Datura very toxic shit,not drug,but death.
I can't believe people would purposefully ingest this shit. We have angel trumpets growing wild everywhere but they are poison.
Datura is exactly what those anti-drug PSA videos thought acid does.
haha
Too right
Are ve not men??
I did Datura years ago. Its like you enter a horror movie. Everyone you see seems dangerous and seems stronger than you. The night seems dangerous especially if you walked the woods on it like i did. You think there are witches and powerful beings hiding in the trees. All in all I liked it, but it is not euphoric, it will make you scared, but I liked the feeling of being a "weak man" in woods full of super powerful beings. Ofc there were no beings in the woods 😅
You mean what they falsely portrayed it as with propaganda too put hippies in jail.
I’ll never forget my first time mushrooms a couple months ago and it was such a beautiful experience. It’s a game changer for severe depression and anxiety……Peace! Truly one of the most remarkable phenomenons on the planet
Since I tired psychedelics for the first time, I’ve been trying to describe the experience to others so there can try it as well, but i couldn’t find the right words to describe it.
Did you do it alone? Like do you really need to have a tripsitter?
doctorhepburn is your guy. My first time doing psychedelics was a great experience. Therapeutic guidelines
Yup it’s not advised to do alone. Everyone reacts differently and not always positive.
How does a middle class source this? He's on Telgram??
Deliriants are not psychedelics.
What is it thank?
@@KevinGarcia-y7pa deliriant lol
@@KevinGarcia-y7p brain active huh
It's psychedelic in ways but classified as a delirient.
Yes. I think that's what a lot of people fail to understand.
Datura has evolved to turn herbivores into fertilizer.
Underrated comment
That is fucking deep... and makes sense
What a comment
brutal. . . .
My sister took datura in her youth and went insane. She ended up on disability for the rest of her life and died recently aged 55.
How many times did she take it??
I ate it. It's dangerous. You'll think you are say... walking with a friend. But there is no friend, it's a hallucination, and you follow the hallucination onto the freeway. Chain yourself to a tree if you do it, and not a tree in the park where the police will be called because you're gnawing the bark off it.
Sheesh it’s like ur schizo.
@@deadboysoldier sheesh its like the whole thing the drug does is make you schizo it's literally makes you see the most terrifying things you could possibly see while tricking you into believing it's reality
Just have a trusted sober friend watch over you and you'll be fine.
@@deadboysoldier it's kinda like the only thing it does to you is make you schizo don't do it
@@Diewelle666 on datura u don’t know who’s real
I did Datura 4 times. The first time, I talked to a tree for hours. I can't remember the second and third times. The fourth time the “trip” lasted 4 days. For 3 of those days I ran away from hallucinated people who wanted to stab me.
I have ingested Datura two times - once in Ecuador and once in Brazil. Datura quite literally transported me both times into new realities where very little of "me" existed and I had no conception that I was even in an altered state of consciousness. The first time I was given so much that I went unconscious for six - eight hours before waking up in a new, super fluid world of magic and spirit beings. I was actively altered for 48 hours or so and in re-integration/recovery for weeks. The experience impacts me still 30+ years later. The second time, in Manaus, Brazil, was a much smaller dose but that too impacts me to this day. In that experience I had full telepathic ability and the full ability to tele-transport myself. Happy to share more if interested. JCM
Just curious what made you do it again if your first experience was traumatic enough
what is the impact on you, more detail?
Really scary stuff
Very interested to hear more please share
Please share how does it influence you nowadays
You trip so hard that you don’t even realize you took Datura. You forget, because your memories are imaginary. On Datura, you can have conversations with friends you knew from high school. You might sit there for two hours having a conversation with this good friend of yours, only to realize later that you never knew this person, and they were never in your room. You were just talking to the wall, hallucinating an entire human being with whom you believed you had an intelligent conversation.
Now, people might say, "Oh, that’s crazy, that’s pretty far out there." But all that shows is hallucinations, right? No, you misunderstand. I am that hallucination. Right now, you are hallucinating my entire body and voice. I am just your mind talking to you. You’re hallucinating me right now. You hallucinated all my videos. You know, I warned you at the beginning. Do you really want to know what reality is?
This is the highest teaching. I’m giving you my highest teaching. It took me over 15 years of reading, studying, thousands of hours of contemplation, meditation, going to retreats, doing powerful psychedelics, racking my mind to understand all of this, to figure it out.
Here it is: my highest teaching. Number one, you are God, and there is nothing but God, and you are all alone. That’s number one. Number two, everything is imaginary. There is nothing but imagination. God is infinite consciousness-infinitely intelligent, infinitely powerful, unlimited. It is also infinitely good and infinitely loving.
Bro is still high
no u
Someone who gets it :))
don't fall for the solipsism trap
"it" is also infinitely nasty,. infinitely a programming sicko.......not infinitely beautiful. More infinitely imbecilic!
A bully that terrorises it's creations........proven forever more!
God my ass, the only thing we see clearly (if we are not deluded or blinded by the lies it creates, are the lies it creates whilst torturing raping and starving more and more and more!
Whatever you wanna call it, your designer/s are but a disgrace.
They purposely programme you to suffer leaving no option but for you to believe lies........all of this is a fact for you that read this.......those that don't have these lies have other bullshit beliefs that leave you divided from the source!
This is a scummy hellish programme, and nobody can deny this (have a word with all those starving and desperate)!
Yoo I have some experience with both Datura and brugmansia. I started to explore this plant when I was young and stupid just trying to get high. Even though I would do literally any drug at the time I still always used low doses and took it slow cause especially with this plant I didn't want to over do it. So I had many mild experiences but the day I decided to experience it fully I made a tea from 2 brugmansia flowers which were pink tipped white flowers cause I heard thos have less negative body feel nausea etc. I drank 1 and a half small tea cups of the tea I had boiled for only hour and immediately felt a buzz the closet I could compare it to was being tipsy on alcohol however it was very mild at that point I decided to stop cause it had come up so fast they same sensation built for the whole day. The ingestion time was either 10 or 11 in the morning I can't remember but I do vividly Remember lying on my bed at 5 in the afternoon cause I looked at the time and was feeling out of it. Like I said at this point it felt like I was blackout drunk cause when I tried to walk out my room I stumbled all down the hallway. Unlike being drunk my heads pace felt completely sober it was so weird I was telling my self to walk but I couldn't do it. This is already a super long comment but dude this experience was crazy I started hallucinating after that and it lasted all night. I ended sleeping which is one th8ng you must never do if you make the mistake of ingesting this without extensive research cause I slept for 24+ hours and my mom was convinced I was dead see also saw me go insane in my room the previous night but despite this something told her I was gonna be fine and woke up on Sunday still fucked from the brugmansia but not any hallucinations however I couldn't see anything close to me it would blur to the point were It was completely distorted. That Sunday I had a crazy rush almost like I was on meth I couldn't shut up I was pacing in circles rambling to myself for hours and it felt great tbh. 😂 but when It finally wore off I suffered short term memory damage and hppd that lasted months. The conclusion I came to was this plant is extremely powerful and thank the lords I did practice some safe usage and she gave me a confusing meaningless and slightly enjoyable experience however I then knee my time and exploration with her is done cause she is unpredictable and just too much.
Fuck deliriants bruh, that shit really do be terrifying. Ate 28 benadryl once and had black decaying hands popping out of the ground and the couch I was on grabbing me and shit. Saw my grandpa across the room on his computer but his head was fully twisted towards me. Bugs of all sort scurrying around on everything. Voices ranging from yelling at me to whispering in my ear plagued me for hours. 2/10 experience wouldn't do again.
Can you make video on "Brujos' who use psychedelic for negative purposes. Also some esoteric channeling "Ra Materia - Law Of One" explains polarity in spirituality showing there are two paths in spirituality - "Service to Others" and "Service to Self". This could explain that mostly souls on "Service to self' path would want to use Datura.
Deliriants are definitely STS
Do you know any books, movies or videos that talk about what you said in this context? I want to do some research, it's the first time, I hear STS
@@Herr_Brechmann me as well.. Found any info?
A friend drank a Angel Trumpet Tea. Same compounds i believe. After he came home he had a Party with several people. Problem is, nobody was there. As he served drinks to maybe 10 people, his mother came in real life and saw him acting "strangely" ... Glad he came back. He told, he wanted to drink a can of coca cola, he wanted to grab it, but he grabbed through it, there was no can of coca cola.
In San Diego, I once mixed the seeds of Datura wrightii with the flowers of Brugmansia arborea in a tea and went to a lake next to my house to have the trip. I believe it was that same night, that a woman actually drowned there too, because she was withdrawing from alcohol and had delirium tremens and psychosis with hallucinations of people chasing after her (this has happened to her before, she works at a local fancy Italian restaurant). Well she wound up in the water on the lake's south-side, naked somehow, and deceased due to drowning but I don’t think anyone knows what time of night exactly. This was in February of 2021.
Strangely, aside from the delirium part, this is how a lot of people are found to be deceased from Datura and similar nightshades historically speaking. It’s very common for people to end up found in the wake of a 3-day long, demented and noxious ordeal in bodies of water without clothes. This is arguably, because scopolamine-heavy nightshades like Datura cause an intense *overheating* feeling and fever, and you just “feel very hot” which is why witches and sorcerers and necromancers have traditionally, since the late Middle Ages at least; oftentimes also incorporated wolfsbane into the picture (usually only in transdermal ointments) because wolfsbane poisoning causes the opposite effect. It conversely causes a hypothermic, very very cold feeling. So this counterbalances not only the overheating of the scopolamine, but also the tachycardia because wolfsbane also causes a deathly bradycardia (slow heart rate) on top of that.
Herbal concoctions in witchcraft are largely oriented around this idea of “antidotal” or allopathic 'strategies' if you will, and counterbalancing poisons with even more poisons through these herbal nature-based strategies. It’s very much about, like; 'cunningness' and pharmacognosy, and bioprospecting and wildcrafting. And Datura-esque nightshades in general just give very plant-oriented types of trip experiences. But also very underworld-oriented, superstitious, magical/witchy and lofty. I could really see this myself especially when listening to music on datura for some reason. Very 'wizard-like' at some points even. I've had very deep, magical, and sacred experiences with this plant. Malevolence (maleficium) is also a huge part of it. It’s all about like sorcery.. and power, and duplicity. 'Treachery' itself may be a genuine theme too looking back.. Asceticism also comes from Datura though too. Especially the hermitry and wandering aspects. But yeah so the whole 'ascetic' thing actually originated from a kind of proto-ascetic 'ordealism' initially, which embraced purposeful and 'dutiful' inductions of dysphoria and bane intentionally. Which, as a theme, first came from Datura and certain poisons but datura/nightshades are almost always, seemingly the most likely cultural etiologies for such things because of the way they present these very tropes archetypally, semiotically, and intersubjectively. Datura has a vastly complex, deep, and for lack of a better term; supernatural array of themes and archetypes or conceptual motifs, at times just as explicit as with that of ayahuasca or psilocybin mushrooms, cacti, etc. Datura and its other, dark botanical cousins serve as the official/unofficial emblem(s) for the Left-Hand Path in magic.
1- Very cool insights on old school herbalism.
2- Funny you mention "left hand" because one of the bigger datura advocates I've ever met was an LHP occultist type. I suspect it takes a very particular type of person to enjoy the vibe this stuff gives.
3- But out of curiosity since you seem to have had positive experiences... how exactly do you arrive at dosing? Deciding how much to take, etc?
Seems that's one of the things that gets a lot of experimenters in trouble...
Nice I always wondered what would be used with datura to make it "manageable"
Why didn't she drink some alcohol to relieve the withdrawals?
@@FromNothingICome It was incredibly intriguing and fairly life-changing due to the general, broad, kind of entheogenic paradigm shift and overall shift in my worldview. But I wouldn't call it "positive" or really anything even close to 'positive', at least with regard to my very first trip encounter with it. It was certainly an intensely fulminated and noxious ordeal state of very flagrant poisoning and toxidrome, and it has a very dark and freaky vibe generally. I mean, if I actually listed ALL the negative side effects for you (puking oxidized blood, fulminate 'attacks' of feeling pure bane and dysphoria, agitation, akathisia, sundown syndrome for weeks, writhing and grimacing, superventricular tachyarrhythmias, etc.) just from the first trip in 2018 alone, you'd probably seriously question why I would ever do it again after that or not at least just perpetually condemn it publicly.
I guess the main reason it interests me so endlessly is primarily because of the recurring archetypes and motifs namely. I truly didn't expect Datura or the other scopolamine-based nightshades to actually have an underlying, semiotic, "archetypal schema" (intentionality) or "deep-structure" beneath the more surface-level effects and symptoms. So I'm really, mostly just a 'sucker' for the themes and tropes conveyed by the plant and its "message" about magic/sorcery and power. It just feels very Old World and medieval, like something out of Late Medieval or Early Modern folklore. I went in with a 'shamanic' sensibility or mentality at first, but I honestly saw almost nothing within the experience itself that felt commensurate or representative of "shamanism" or spirituality. Instead is was something straight out of 1690s Salem, Massachusetts or something.
As for dosing, I mean there really is no 'perfect' method. But online consensus and other forms of consensus among most all of the relevant groups typically spells to me that generally, the only really 'consistent', or at least; relatively or "most" consistent part of the plant in terms of toxicity and potency tends to be the dried seeds, probably after seed capsule dehiscence has taken place. Now my first trip in 2018, which lasted like 36 hours and was an all-out ordeal, but also my most "archetypal" and thematic nightshade experience of all was with only 3 modest-sized leaves. So from what I can tell, leaves and flowers and all those *other* parts tend to vary in potency so dramatically that one can't really rationally even guesstimate potency from those parts of the plant. But you tend to have more 'predictable' outcomes from a given number of seeds (5 - 20 for starting) than other parts of the plant. But seasonality also matters a lot, with some American Indian tribes completely avoiding use of sacred datura in the mid or late Summer months because it was considered "too strong" when harvested at this time of year. Not gonna lie though, I have personally exploited this "late Summer = more potent" strategy to get more effect from less seeds. Keep in mind, this quasi-"advice" pertains only to Datura, not other hallucinogenic nightshade specimens. And it arguably even varies to some extent when contrasting different species of Datura. For example, wrightii is unique in that the roots of the plant are abnormally potent.
@@Ryan88881you have an amazing vocabulary.
Like I expected your sentences to be the ramblings of a mad man, but you are incredibly eloquent
Back in 2001, me and a friend stripped a young Brugmansia Suoveolens plant and put it in a blender with melon and just started scooping. I cant remember much of the experience, but I recall having conversations with friends, and even dead people that appeared and disapeared on and on and on. Three days later my mom found me all alone talking to diffrent people and smoking imaginary ciggarettes, and my friend had broken into a car completely naked and got arrested and taken to emergancy.
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same here with the seeing friends, i mean slapping hands fist bumps tapping my shoulder. you can actually feel these things
Haha. Friend wound up in jail, in the psyche part of the jail. Nasty.
On California jimsonweed one time on 2018, it had me wandering around this canyon (classic datura symptom) and it felt like I was near/around "the Underworld" or just "the realm of the dead and/or of ghosts" or something, and it felt like I was right about to, or like more than halfway to being able to communicate with and literally "talk to dead people/ghosts" somehow, and it felt connected to sorcery in a big way. But unfortunately this feeling or impression never progressed into anything more intense or full-blown. Still though.. I understand it now. Its chthonic associations, which I had no idea of before and I definitely did not know of necromancy before all this, which is what Datura, Brugmansia and all these other witchy nightshades are infamous for.
Having taken the drug this sounds scary accurate
Psychedelics are serotonergic- 5HT2A agonists, with some action at the 5HT2C receptor as well.
Datura (more specifically, scopalamine) is an anticholinergic; a muscinaric acetylcholine receptor antagonist. These types of drugs are deliriants, the only true hallucinogens. This is why they are often conflated with psychedelics, as psychedelics once carried the name "hallucinogens," despite that they rarely cause anything beyond phosphenes and pseudohallucinations.
In India Datura grows everywhere and nobody cares about them.
Legend has it Lord Shiva used to trip on it. In India it is also used in festival ceremony of Shiva as an offering. I have seen many women taking Datura flowers from plants growing right outside my house on "Shivaratri" to offer Shiva. They used to say it's his favourite flower
The sahdus eat the seeds often in the Himalayas
It is like late/last stage of dementia, talking to people who aren't there, seeing things or animals that aren't there or aren't alive anymore, Not remembering what just happened moments ago, getting absolutely lost walking where you always walk. It is like a waking dream that is more often a nightmare, watching worms and fire covering walls or buildings. It is not fun, and wouldnt give it to my worst enemy..even if they deserve it. You will lose days of your life and your brain will never be the same. I know people who had heart attacks on it, I know someone who came to "woke up) on a mountain hundreds of miles from where they were and no idea how they got there.
i live in the southern US in the state of Alabama and we have a version of this that grows on the roadsides we call it Jimsonweed. i know of a few guys back in the 80s that tried a teaspoonful of the seeds and ended up with the Rescue Squad searching for them in the woods. and being found alive 3 or 4 days later naked with scratches all over them. i have tried several other "heroic things" but this one i will not touch.
There's a story about settlers using it in a salad. It either killed them or after weeks of sickness, rendered them permanently insane. I kinda regret taking 2c-b the second time but Jimsonweed never appealed to me.
@@johnobrien8773 Regret 2cb? Why? Too high of a dose?
@@nunyadambiznes675 It just doesn't have the properties I'd associate with a "recreational" drug. Crazy "bodyfrys" and visuals I'd associate with fear and anxiety with a Persian carpet effect where structures appeared to surround me. I've really enjoyed taking large doses of 2c-i multiple times and while 2c-b was interesting that first time, the second time seemed excessive... I mean I ended up spending several days in a locked psych-unit. But I'll be honest, it was the Lexapro prescription that I regret since it's probably what migrated me from Type 2 Bipolar to the rare and sought after Type 1. Now I take OXcarbazepine as a mood stabilizer which for months was like being on a 2c-i drip but six years on, you wouldn't believe how dull it's become. Xanax would probably be my second regret if I was making a list. But I learned one thing from smoking crack: that Xanax was going to ruin my life worse than I already had.
It seems like there's a very specific dose that you must achieve, and it seems almost all-or-nothing with this entity. I've eaten several seeds at once (probably 1/4 tsp) with no effects whatsoever... and then I hear of people falling off the deep end with 1 tsp.
@@trentcooper1271 It was a white powder made in a lab. %99.997 pure. The doses were in the low milligrams at that point. I remember one gram of the 2c-i I had was 66 doses and the 2c-c was a similar potency. Although half doses were enough for most people. This was before any of them were scheduled so more "reputable" domestic labs sold high quality research chemicals.
Brugmansia is not Datura. All the images shown are Brugsmania. Sure, they share some tropane alkaloids and are both nightshades, but they are different plants.
Thanks, man.I was thinking the same thing.
I believe they used to all share the name Datura, but it was later changed to Brugmansia
Same anticholinergic alkaloids
@@max3eeyBut In very different concentration and ratio of which atropine derivatives are inside
Datura flowers grow up
Everyone I know or knew who knew of Datura was so scared of it that I do not know any users. So I cannot give second hand (much less first hand) accounts. However, the reason everyone was scared of it was the story of one Datura user who poked both of her eyes out during a trip - apparently because she was convinced that looking with her eyes would make some evil come to this world and the only way to save herself and humanity was to blind herself.
Something I learned from all my experiments: None of these drugs can give you anything that you do not have in yourself. They can only take away, psychedelics take away the noise filters in our brains causing us to see things our subconscious mind would normally suppress. This can lead to meaningful discovery, but you do not need anything to get make those discoveries.
Taking psychedelics to advance your mind is like jumping under a waterfall if you are thirsty. Yes you get some water in your mouth and the risks can be calculated. But if you know how to drink, that’s not the best way.
Yes, exactly. You’ve hit the nail on the head, this is the best explanation - “if you know how to drink that is not the best way” so perfect.
Wonderfully put and explained. I have practically no experience with psychedelic substances other than when a guy gave me a rollie (cigarrette) laced with K2, knowing I'd never done drugs. I did not ask for it nor did I have any idea he'd done so. He wanted my body despite my staunch "no's" all the times he asked, and this was how he did it.
When it hit me, the "high" was the most traumatic experience of my life, even more traumatic than the physical experience of being taken by the guy while I was helpless from it. It was like my brain... broke. I'm on the Spectrum, high functioning, and have always had an academic and philosophical mind, with an IQ in MENSA. In other words, my mind is my sanctuary. This destroyed that. I was hearing colors and smelling sounds, time was repeating in loops in which I perceived the same events around me multiple times in repition, I was aware of every atom in my body, and felt like they were changing shapes from triangles to circles to squares. When they were triangles, I felt sharp and angular, like my body had morphed into an angular form, and an overhwelming sense of "sharp" sensations from all my sensory inputs. When my atoms turned to circles, I felt soft and round, with the absolute sensations of softness and "bubbly" feeling. As squares, I felt like I was firm and linear, locked into place, and blocky.
My senses were just overwhelmed by these extreme sensations/ feelings/ perceptions, and my neurons were all firing the wrong ways to the wrong places. As if my sense of sight suddenly switched neuro pathways to the part of my brain that interpreted taste. Etc.
As I mentioned, the guy took full advantage of this, and left me with intimate injuries. And while that itself has taken me years to heal from and cope with, the trauma of the high itself gave me a literal PHOBIA of any drugs that affect your mind, even weed. I won't smoke anything except nicotine (which I shouldn't), and the only other "drugs" I've done are pain killers for when I had Heart Cancer in my early 20s (which is when this happened), and my ADHD med which gives energy potently.
However, my husband is highly addicted to K2 due to severe grief. He lost his entire direct family within 16 months. 8 people, including his mother, his mom's twin sister, his brother, his grandfathers, his best friend, and others. He is in such grief over it, he has fallen into severe addiction to K2, and anything else he can. I don't know how to help him. We're both about to be 30, and at the rate he's going, he's not going to make it much longer. I feel powerless. He doesn't WANT to stop, he wants everything to end because life hurts too much for him now. He's said so repeatadly.
Any advice?
The story of the datura tripper who dug out her eyes is an urban legend first related as a PCP user back in the Sixties.. It gets revived every new psychedelic craze.
@@JadusMoltriel this sounds terrifying, my heart goes out to you. My wife lost her best friend to alcohol, who also knew she was going to die when she kept drinking and she couldn’t make herself stop until it was too late, leaving behind a 4 kids, one of them 6 years old.
First: think about what you can and cannot do. You are closest to him, but that does *not* make you the person in the best position to help him. If you pressure him to much, he will feel like losing you too, making life even more bleak and reinforcing his behavior.
This means you need outside counsel so someone else is having the uncomfortable conversation and you can remain on his side - not by enabling his self destructive behavior, that you should never pretend to agree with - but by being there for his emotional struggle with his loss without judging.
Second: Find some motivation in him that is still left, maybe he doesn’t want to inflict the same grief he has on you and that is an angle you can reach him?
Third: K2 side effects are the exact depression you are describing. So maybe his despair is a result of his abuse and not the other way around, but to find out he would need to stop using for a few weeks. If he is willing to influence his psyche by using drugs, he might be willing to experiment with other things - I do not know what he would be open to but spirituality, yoga, meditation, sports, music, art, travel are things that can also influence and he might be open to trying.
And lastly: Do not despair. It is very hard to really harm yourself with K2, you do have time. Don’t panic. Your husband needs you as his anchor, as a calming and loving presence that provides hope and stability. You got this, you two will get through this and emerge stronger.
I once found leaving the body wasn't the hardest part. it was remembering which body, and how to find my way back
I second that!
So, are we in a simulation or what
@@grelm1322 If there is any type of afterlife, then yes.
The real question is, why are we in a simulation?
@@stealthshopper2092 It has to do with the Black Cube of Saturn. It may be like a soul-catching device. We keep getting recycled here on Earth, but we shouldn't be.
When you take datura you've no idea when the trip even starts because hallucinations seem like normal reality.
my friend took motion sickness pills the whole package he said he was in a house watching cartoons on TV and enjoying it then the TV vanished and he realized it had never been there to begin with. He said it was like a dream world while you are awake.
all our lives living in a dream world. Tripping isn't much different from what we are doing now.
"Morpheus: Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?"
"Please, don't spoil my day (Ooh-ooh-ooh)
I'm miles away
And after all (Ooh, woo-ooh)
I'm only sleeping"
its better to be asleep, being awake feels like madness.
A big problem is that there are many Daturas.
D. Stramonium, the classic Jimson Weed is an annual in temperate countries.There are several annual daturas , all causing mostly unpleasant delerium. The New England tribes like the Mohawk used it as an adolescent rite of passage . The youth remained in a dark lodge for one month with Datura juice in all their food and water.When they emerged from the womblike darkness they were reborn as young adults of the tribe.
The perennial Tree Daturas ,the Brugmansias we see as ''Angel Trumpets'' have a somewhat different chemical makeup. They are the most revered Entheogen used in Colombia's ''Sibundoy Valley '' ,the most psychedelic region in South America.The tree daturas are the only ones to be used if you simply must try it. The soft green outer skin of flexible young twigs is scraped off and juice squeezed from it. Seems like nobody takes more than a half a shot glass of it. That much works very well.
It's like the Angel's Trumpet. It's very common here in the Philippines. I remember when I was a kid a lot of people were using it but after many people went totally crazy, it went out of mainstream. You can still see abundance of these plants everywhere but no one dares to use them for tripping. It just now a house decorative plant/tree
This is an uncontrollable delerient. I wouldn't siggest this to ANYONE. IT'S EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!!!👍🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Funny how I knew EXACTLY what this vid would be about when I clicked on the title 😂
Let’s not call it a psychedelic.. Datura is a shortcut to psychosis + schizophrenia , I’ve seen a few kind souls destroyed by this flower .
Yeah I knew a guy who had it, he was given it without permission as a teen, sadly he was never the same. Nice guy too. It was sad.
Alright but let's also not try to compare delirium with schizophrenia. They are so.. demonstrably different. Schizophrenia is a delusory fantasy-driven (sometimes hypomanic) state, and a kind of mental *fragmentation* and disorganization or lack of grace or harmony with respect to thought, perception and affectivity. Delirium on the other hand is more like a mental *sickness* and is a severe lowering of consciousness and much more flustering and inebriating. Schizophrenia is a disordered and debilitating type of mental conditioning yes, but you can still like.. live your life for the most part. Delirium on the other hand is not something you can even drive or operate machinery during, and is considered a sign of something very serious. Clinically, the presentation would look much closer to dementia or heck, even the mental sequela of rabies would be comparatively closer to anticholinergic delirium than a "schizophrenic" anything. Delirium is an extreme state of affliction. It's what people feel when they're being poisoned or have a high fever or during terminal restlessness when they're literally on death's door. Schizophrenia isn't even in the same universe.
I've done scopolamine via moonflower seeds around 15 times and no it absolutely is not a psychedelic and I definitely went somewhere else each and Everytime... Like it would be day time and I'd be in a car but that's not what I'd be experiencing instead id absolutely 100% feel, think and see that I was at a huge house party during the night talking to my dead friends and relatives like it was normal. I'd feel possessed for days after and couldn't read anything for a week.
I have some CRAZY stories from my time on moonflower. This story is definitely the simplest and most benign of all of them
I’ve done it several times probably about five times when I was 17 or 18 I tried it for the first time and then I did it like three or four more times. We were just stupid kids so I wouldn’t recommend it to anybody. But what’s weird about it is You completely forget that you took a drug so you take everything you see it face value as if that’s really happening. So you’ll see somebody standing there and you’ll be having a complete conversation with them and then you’ll blink and they’ll be gone and you’ll be kind of confused about it like, where did they go? Where did they Go? A very common thing that I’ve talked to several people about that I’ve had this experience is they’ll be smoking a cigarette, and all of a sudden the cigarette will disappear and you’ll be looking around for the cigarette because you don’t want it to burn the carpet. It was never there at all. . At the time one of these hallucinations happened I wasn’t even currently a smoker, but I had been a smoker in the past but during this particular trip, I wasn’t smoking at the time but it sure look like I was. It’s almost like you’re dreaming with your eyes open. I got this sense from doing it that we are always dreaming even when we walk around, but you just sort of go into that realm when you actually go to sleep at night and that becomes the dominant matrix that you’re acting in. So when people see things that aren’t there, it’s like your dreams are imposing themselves onto this reality where normally they’re kept in a different compartment but there’s a bleed over that’s happening. Another thing that’s very weird is that you can be looking at a tree, but it’s not a tree even though in reality it’s a tree But when you’re looking at it, you’ll see a perfectly formed human standing there. I was having a conversation with my friend and then I watched my friend literally morph into a tree right before my eyes. But the tree was actually there the whole time, but there was no tree when I was talking to my friend. There was only my friend. I would see a tree or a bush sort of break off part of itself, and that part would walk around and then blend into a different tree or bush, but when it was walking around, it looked like a tree, but humanoid shaped. So this is a completely different experience with the tree than the one when the tree turned into my friend or vice versa. so it was almost like a person made out of trees walking around, so it didn’t look humanoid except for the shape so if you could imagine a human that was completely made out of wood and leaves walking around, that’s kind of what it look like. Another thing that happened was I went in the bathroom to try to pee, which is very uncomfortable because you feel like you have to pee, but you can’t or very little will come out and after I got done with that situation as I am leaving the bathroom and I look in the mirror and my reflection waves at me and says hello even though I was just standing there. So I don’t think that’s weird at all and I say hello back to the mirror and then I start having a conversation with the reflection in the mirror which is moving independently of me. And then some part of me knew that this was not normal and I thought to myself that’s strange. My reflection shouldn’t be talking to me. And so I left but keep in mind the whole time. I didn’t even know that I was on the drug. Another thing that can happen is you can have a hallucination that you and your friend can see if you’re both on the drug. I heard this man deep breathing in the living room of my friends house. My friend was in his room and so I walk out to see what is going on, and there was a skinny old man wearing an American flag top hat, a tie-dyed shirt and he has a small black dog and the dog is just sniffing around on the floor. Why was there an old man with a small dog just kind of walking around in my friends living room? Well I thought that was kind of weird so I went to get my friend and I told him that there was someone in his house. He goes out there and peaks around the corner and saw the same man with the same dog in his living room and his jaw hit the floor when he came back to tell me he saw the man. The next day when we were sober, we described what the man look like and what he was wearing, and because he was wearing such a unique outfitwhen we compared notes it was obvious that we both saw the same thing. I seriously doubt some random old man just came and stood in my friends living room with his dog.😂 OK maybe that happened but I seriously doubt it. I made pancakes while I was on the datura. Keep in mind it was microwave pancakes that you just had to throw in the microwave for a few minutes, but for some reason, I didn’t understand that you were supposed to put the syrup on the pancakes and so I started drinking the syrup from the bottle instead of putting it on the pancakes. I have so many stories about that stuff, but this is getting kind of long.
A friend of a friend was drugged with scopolamine, and he was seeing the man in black with the hat, too.
tldr
So so weird about seeing the same man. And the same outfit. How the heck does that work? @StarDarkAshes
I was minding a friends toddler, and suddenly realised he was missing. I spent hours in a panic travelling all over Sydney looking for him.
None of that actually happened.
Don’t do it.
over 30 years ago I ate some flowers for a dare when I was very drunk on alcohol....Dont remember anything at all...came to in my home, miles from where I was. The walls of my bathroom were splattered with tomatoes from my garden....I have no recollection at all of what happened to me......NEVER AGAIN......DONT TAKE IT
Psychedelics are just an amazing discovery. It's quite fascinating how effective they are for depression and stress..saved my life.
Psychedelics definitely have potential to deal with health issues like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them but it's just hard to source out here.
I'm feeling the same way too. I put so much on my plate and it definitelv affects mv stress and anxietv levels
I was having this constant and unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came across Ted Winston, a very intelligent mycologist, He saved my life honestly.
Can you help me with the reliable source a. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, l'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Australia. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.
The trips I've been having have really helped me a lot, I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have a lot more empathy as well….
It grows wild here. It has a unique place in nature. Hawk moths pollinate it at night when the flowers open.
The plant is strange and demands respect.
Bro really said "blowing seed into people" lmao
I know right. Kind of a dork
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You can only blow it out tho
Bruh I'm still in skippidy middle school so I find this funny af bro 😂😂😂💀💀💀
I have the mental capacity of a goldfish. And my parents act like children and never do their job.
LMAO 💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡
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Datura should be clearly isolated as a deleriant and not a psychedelic... It is NOT a classic tryptamine and unlike the tryptamine family of compounds Datura is no where near a hand in glove fit with human consciousness. Terrence used to say if you take a drug and 3 days later your still not seeing clearly and are wobbly in the knees its probably a good indication its not a good fit and a good reason to stay the hell away.... I would put salvia into this catagory as well... No wonder people get damaged or physically harmed by it... Last person I saw take the stuff wound up in jail after wondering into a strangers home completely unaware of what was happening and asked the lil old lady who lived there to make him a cheeseburger (at least thats what the police said).... Just stick to the tryptamines and you wont wake up in jail 3 days later wondering wtf happened...
Salvia can't do that because the trip only lasts 5 minutes.
@@Herr_Brechmann or a lifetime...
I have a little experience with Brugmansia, but only in small doses mixed with cannabis, pretty interesting and beautiful plant, I also read that these were planted around the borders of living areas for protection.
I initially used it on and off to give cannabis a different spin, I also tried every day for a week at one time, The effects accumulate if you use it everyday and by the end of the week I definitely felt the delirium effect.
The dosage was a little bit of brugmansia flower mixed into a straight cannabis joint, maybe 1/8th brug 7/8 cannabis
So crazy you posted this! I’ve been reading and listening to everything on the subject and just noticed a datura plant right outside my work. Also had to pick up a prescription this last weekend and saw a few boxes of scopolamine which is a tropane alkaloid used to treat motion sickness. Very interesting stuff! Great vid Tom 🤙🏼😁
When i was very young, i was in the university, and walking with some friends...and i suddenly found a very big, kinda fragant, white trumpet flower in the floor, in the street. "wow beautiful flower!" i said...and then one of the classmates who was with us said "hey give me that, is a floripondio, this can be a terrifing drug if you dont have care!" so i ended with only a little piece of a petal, who i sealed forever in plastic incide a book, like a weird memory. Love from Chile.
I agree it is Dangerous, but if someone gets lost in an Astro projection and can’t find there way back, you can use that one to find them and bring them back
In theme of this video I did many psychedelics but my most intense trip ironically was weed induced. When I was younger I didn’t realize dosage and ended up consuming 1200mg edibles which induced the most intense delirium/psycosis compared to other experiences I had. I still remember it to this day and it’s been 8 years
Buddy of mine had some around 2009. He recalls us hanging out and smoking cigarettes for a bit before I went home, shortly thereafter he blacked out. He came to wearing a trenchcoat with a Goodwill receipt in the right pocket. An amtrak conductor had woken him up in Boston, we lived in Philly. I was at work that day, and neither of us smoke.
I ate it and almost went blind. My friend and I thought it was Belladonna so we ate the flowers . It was a terrible experience. I felt like I was stuck and could not see anything around me. And not like it was a beautiful psychedelic shade over my sight. It was a blur like everything was smudging and I couldn’t even control my movements. I had a lot of experience traveling through the psychedelic world. This is so dangerous. It’s not a psychedelic it causes people to become delerious to the point of ( for me losing my eye sight) and feeling poisoned. It was a nightmare.
i did this once, we had planned to go out and do some stuff while on it but i couldn’t stay awake. Apparently i just slept but in my mind we actually had a full night out on the town. it was so real. the only downside i personally had was my pupils were so dilated for three days and i couldn’t see close up of anything. all a blur.
I once rubbed a very small amount between two fingers, having the question in me what it is like. I smelled that smell even twenty years later on myself sometimes. Quite different than the smell of the flowers, which i really love.
I can hardly Imagine a scenario, where i would ingest this plant voluntarily, althought i love it somehow.
Bruh this is what the scarecrow wanted to put in gotham city's water supply
Awesome! I love these Datura videos. I like how you added the Terence McKenna clip too 👍
If there was a way to experience a datura trip without any of the negative effects I might do it.
I have one in my garden, pretty common here. It's a nocturnal flower so the smell is very strong during the night, sweet and intoxicating. I never had the interest in trying it, there are plenty of other, safer plants to explore but I like having one around the house.
Fell asleep on it and was talking to a dead pet rat for hours in my dreams, it felt so real and I remembered all of it after I woke up.
I've got some information about Scopo/Datura being used in the music festival scene that I don't even know if I could discuss with full anonymity guaranteed ,as I work Security and the situations are ongoing and delicate surrounding its seemingly unexplainable meteoric rise in proximity, availability, and mefarious use/attempts to pass it off to the youth as recreational... You are SPOT ON when you say it's about black magick. It's very dark stuff, and the rabbit hole goes deep and has many twisted branches.
Where I live there are several of the same family as this Datura flowers, we call them floricundas, floripondio or trompeta de ángel (angel's trumpet). People use it just as Tom's friend describes it: under the pillow. Nevertheless there have been cases of people not being able to sleep and just making floricunda tea... as you can guess this poeple end up intoxicated and some have died because of it's ingestion.
Be careful, people. Don't go around messing with stuff just because somebody promised you a nice trip or a good night sleep. You can end up never waking up.
Why would these plants develop like this? Do other creatures suffer the effects?
I’m guessing that the plant produces those chemicals as an insecticide to protect itself from pests. Though they may have the purpose of deterring larger organisms as well.
I was under the influence of about seventy-eighty seeds of datura inoxia... I talked to Asterix, who came out of the door of my old high school's teacher's room's door and "he" was like a "carved out figure" of the material of that door, but he stepped out from that door AND the door was still unharmed and whole! And the talk between us lasted for half an hour! THIS IS A SCARY STUFF!!! NEVER DO IT!!! I had very powerful experiences from all kinds of drugs (so you don't have to do it after me) and it's literally the MOST DANGEROUS of all!!! Please, never even consider to try this shit!
I knew it had to be "scopolamine" 1 second into the video.
Great video once again, thanks for sharing
I would rename this video to something like "The Scariest Hallucinogen of all Time" instead of using the word 'psychedelic'. This plant is not even remotely close to a psychedelic, instead it is (as stated in the video) a deliriant.
The ones where I live grow on the ground with a more white flower. Occasionally there are tinges of blue or purple on them. They look like the sacred herb on black panther, but not glowing purple. Based on the reports I've read, I will never dare to sample this plant.
However, there is a song by Buckethead named Datura that is beautiful and haunting and definitely worth a listen. Check it out.
There is a purple datura it's called black current datura
Thank you, very interesting ❤ I'd love to find more about these strange psychoactive plants... But sorry I need to say that this is actually Brugmansia and not Datura. One can distinguish them by Datura's flowers which are standing upwards, compared to Brugmansia's flowers which hang downwards as you see in the video. Datura's also do usually not grow older than 1-2 years and stay quite small, while Brugmansia's can grow quite tall, treelike and far older.
Great video, stayed for all of it. Curious about trip reports of salvia divinorum in the style of Jeff Mara and The Otherside
its like the ninja flower from batman begins, a test.
I was really stupid as a teenager and took a bunch of benadryl (on multiple occasions) to try and trip. I'm grateful that I didn't have one of those terror trips, it was interesting though I must say. I was talking to my friend in a car, and they transformed to someone else mid conversation and I thought I was talking to another friend. Then I snapped out of it when he asked "Ryan? I'm not ryan". I was just as shocked as them and told them about it. Then later I came home and my parents bought taco bell. I was so effed that I just grabbed my food and dipped up to my room asap. I was trying to play skyrim and remember vaguely talking to my tacos while slipping in and out of consciousness in the weirdest trance like state. The hangover is the worst ever though, I don't recommend it to anyone lol in case you are wanted to try it. I also tried nutmeg multiple times that was also weird...
I can tell you from experience this plant is very powerful when eaten or made into teas in my experience I would not recommend it I barely remember any of those trips I talked to people who would suddenly disappear, and would smoke disappearing cigarettes, and hear parots, I could not focus my eyes to read for 3 days. That said I have never gotten any effects from simply smelling the flower and I love the way angel trumpet and hells bells smell, I have gotten mild dreamy effects from smoking it, but I fucked around with a bunch when I was a teenager and in my early 20's so I nay have developed a tolerance, and I only ever use it ritual context anymore smoked usually mixed with a little weed.
I watched my friend fall out and have two seizures almost dying from this substance.
I've never heard Terrence talk about datura. THANK YOU. Gnarly
When I was a kid I tried smoking and eating a small amount of datura leaves and fortunately nothing happened.
Are you sure nothing happened? 😉
@@Alastair539 yea lol im not so spaced out that i wouldnt notice being absolutely obliterated by a drug
@@TowgPowerPlay Good to hear. Was kinda just an attempt at dark humour, suggesting that maybe all this is just part of the delirium that maybe your child self is still in
@@Alastair539 nah the leaves tend to be way less potent than the seeds. If I had eaten the seeds, things may have gotten a lot more serious. Or the Detura goddess took pitty on me, which someone had offered as another possible explanation lol. Or maybe im still tripping and youre not even real lol. I highly doubt I've been tripping for the last 15 years though.
Are you human or what man@@TowgPowerPlay
Reminds me of high dose diphenhydramine (Benadryl). Those are some of the scariest trips in my life. Hallucinating random people talking to me, spiders crawling on the wall, having phone calls that never actually happened, petting a cat that didn't actually exist, hearing my phone ringing when it wasn't and many other things. I'll never touch a delirious drug again. Datura is definitely not a psychedelic
I really enjoyed this, Tom! Would you ever think about making a video on Salvia divinorum? I believe it has so much potential for a lot of good, but it's overlooked by societies egos. I'd be excited to hear your thoughts on this!
angel trumpets were growing everywhere in the parks here in Austria and teenagers often used them to trip. nowadays they have replaced them with other plants because of that. some of my older friends used them to make tea and get high. (i was too young at that point) but they all were tripping for days wich felt like years and as many others wrote in the comments, they did not realize that they were tripping and some cant remember what happened and where they had been the last days. gladly nobody was hurt or got crazy.
Thought you was gonna say Salvia!
There's something called Salvinorin B which is even more powerful than normal Salvia
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I knew i was tripping off it, i had an out of body experience but didnt realize it till 15 years later, its wild, i wouldnt recommend it to anyone.
"It is not entirely accurate to call Datura a psychedelic drug, as it belongs to a different category of hallucinogens called deliriants rather than psychedelics" -ChatGPT
Datura grows around here like crazy I'm in central California
I did it once and it didn't seem to have an effect at first so I went to sleep and woke up hours later and realized something was actually happening thing twisting a little and kinda springing in and out. It wasn't pleasant or psychedelic.
Loving your content lately mate and consistency. Can I ask you what you use for your AI art? Much love
Don Juan's mix also had the bugs that live on the plant, perhaps some antidote to the more toxic parts, and was just painted on the skin. Salvia is the bomb.
you like salvia?
@Starrs_mods oh yeah and in combination with other things.
@@DominiqueBeninca-o2y I still have some saved away haven't used it in awhile it is a very good thing if used right
As an avid lover of psychedelics I have tried this on 3 separate occasions with increasing amounts and each time I can report - no effect, except the 3rd time when I became quite ill from the large amount at about the 40 minute mark for about an hour or so. What I think really happened is that I couldn't tell the difference between what was real and what was imagined. It's pointless people telling me I didn't see that person or thing when clearly I did. I am only grateful I didn't - as far as I know - get myself into some of the trouble other users have experienced including a couple of my friends.
From all the trip reports I read and heard I came across only one that seemed to be enjoyable for the person. Didn't sound like it from the story, but to each their own :DD
Datura is deliriant which is subclass category of hallucinogens. Sorry for nitpicking but traditionals psychedelics tend to be heavenly and gentle compared to deliriants.
Edit: Seen u mention it in video haha but still named psychedelic in title of video will give u comments like this
Wasn't there some viral video from back in the day of a guy on a Datura trip that his brother filmed, and then they rewatched it years later or something? I feel like I stumbled across that somewhat recently...
I had the scariest trip on datura, I dreamed you were still on Facebook.. but then I came out of it and checked.. you’re good 👍🏽 😂
It amazes me that people take the time to look up datura, see all the fucking crazy stories, and STILL decide to take it. Nothing like tripping in terror while your throat is burning and you are thirsty but can’t quench your thirst for like a day or two
i actually had a datura contact high and broke through LOL it was fun !! i did go fucking insane though LOL but like a manic kind of insane not paranoid !! gave me a really nicew understanding of the plant and a more intense respect and admiration of it. if i had gone back in time n told me two years ago that id unintentionally do this shit in the future theyd be fucking TERRIFIED loool
i preformed a ritual and treated it with the upmost respect as soon as i found out what id done. and in return mister datura respected me. more people need be aware of the simple contact high from rubbing the leaves because its so much safer. if youre so determined id recommend this rather than the fucking moronic act of eating the seeds but datura wants to be left alone he/she/they are retired. they told me this personally. theyre fed up with greed. sometimes i feel the temptation to go back and it makes me want to cry its like getting an intrusive thought about abusing my animals and i need to fight it. theyre not a scary plant. i want to cultivate them any chance i get !!
For what I know, Brugmansia can give you some effect just by smelling it. The two species of Datura I've seen don't smell a lot. Also in the potato family it's said that Mandragora can affect your mind just by touching the plant.
I've used this a handful of times in an attempt to explore a living nightmare where no structure of thought exists and the husk of human identity you can barely maintain your white knuckle grasp upon is desperately trying (but failing) to outrun or at least look away from the horrific patterns that you are now almost certain have attached themselves to your mind by way of thorny tentacles. Very hard to extrapolate, let alone remember any kind of lesson or meaning from such utterly maddening stimuli. Minds with any kind of frailty or questionsble constitution are almost guaranteed permanent damage. That's not to say there is any leniency for arrogance. A pompous attitude of superiority will only draw more attention from whatever darkness is controlling that tornado of psychosis. Im not saying that any way is a good way of administering this plant. But, this is how i prepared it. I cut the thorny pods from the plant shortly after flowering and removed all the seeds. I then laid the seeds out on some brown paper bags and let them dry in some diffused sunlight. When dry, i ground them into a powder and combined them with 2 parts beeswax and 1 part olive oil and 1 part petroleum jelly in a pot on low heat. I continued to stir occasionally for a few hours until the mixture appeared homogeneous or well combined. When cooled, i rubbed small amounts on thin dermal areas of my body and allowed the alkaloids to enter my bloodstream. I was told this method restricts the absorption of atropine which may reduce the risk of heart related complications. This is due to the fact that scopolamine can be absorbed transdermally and atropine cannot. But, honestly - there are waaaaaay better ways to lose 15 hours of your life. I don't advise fucking with this in any recreational manner. It will make you regret your mistake forever.
I have a friend who accidentally took about 10 doses in one time. A whole parties dose which he drank. He went a bit crazy from our perspective.
But from his perspective he just didnt know what was real or a dream. It was all merging together. Like his brain was forcing him to dream while awake which then mixed with the sensory inputs.
He was seen to talk to people who were not there etc.
And then for months if not years after this event whenever he got drunk he would have relapses. It profoundly affected his normal waking life and ability to cope with normal life for years. I lost track of him years ago.
I hope hes doing better these days.
It’s so incredibly interesting to me to learn how many different ways the brain can be altered
i have tried a low dose of datura before (although i ate the flowers and not the seeds). i had terrible blurry vision and had auditory hallucinations which while not scary, felt very real, so i'd often end up replying to voices that weren't really there. also had a bit of nausea and was generally really restless.
although again, this was a low dose, so i was spared from the worse effects. i still wouldn't recommend it to anyone, it was very annoying and had no recreational value whatsoever
Excellent video. Thank you ❤
A use that isnt spoken of a lot but is practiced in eastern asia is using datura as a pain killer. It unfortunately damages your liver or it would be a perfect pain killer. I did speak to someone who used it as a painkiller for about a year and got liver damage from it.
A lovely engaging video!! Loved the clip at the end 😆🙏
Hahaha
The bag of Mushrooms in my Closet is a Psychedelic, What your talking about is Same as Taking a Bottle Of DPH or Even The Hat Man Challenge with handful’s of Benadryl . GypsumSeeds is another Good one to take lol
Clickbait. Datura is not a psychedelic
Scopolamine is also used in common OTC motion sickness meds... Just one of the alkaloids I know, but still wild it's so easily accessible.
Buscopan is derived from the plant also
Benadryl is also a psychotic hallucinogen in high doses, and it is also perfectly legal
@@muscleman125 Yeah there's even quite a few people out there actually into it. Benzedrex (polyhexedrine or whatever it is now) is OTC and a pretty potent drug, though not a hallucinogen. DXM is obviously one of the best/oldest examples, and one of the better ones.
I got a few beauties growing around my house. They smell wonderful and feed the larvae of the Sphinx Moth. Remember Carlos's encounter with the moth? Anyway, i wouldn't want anybody to experience it.
I tried jimsonweed when I was 19. 3 days of hell. I couldn't quench my thirst. I just drank water and peed. I was hallucinating, but it was not pleasurable. It was hard to read and drive for about 2 days afterwards.
From what I know, you can't know the dose of the seeds, so I wouldn't try it. Otherwise, I would try it if I had a tripsitter for 48 hours and correct dosage.
I smoke Datura-dried flowers before sleep. Dreams are intensive and it calms you down like CBD. It grows everywhere where I live, the flowers are white colour and have a nice smell.