@@Tonttu18 Alatreon's ult is designed to cart players who don't meet the DPS check via rapid tic damage, but this doesn't apply to other monsters. Fatalis must be dealing lots of high fixed damage, to guarantee it will cart anyone who doesn't take shelter.
Alatreon:*uses everything he had to destroy fatalis horn* Fatalis : mmm you have my respect master of the elements ... But you need only one to destroy the world ..... F I R E
@@SillyGuy67 fatalis looks exactly like the basic western dragon you would expect Alatreon uhm idk he has an emo "hairstyle" but maybe still basic dragon shape I guess?
Despite them having the same body types it’s fascinating to see how differently they move. Alatreon moves like a Tiger with wings, but Fatalis moves more like a Snake given a set of legs.
Well that's because they don't have the same body types. Alatreon uses the same animation skeleton as the other elders (specifically kushala, teo, namielle and lunastra). Fatalis' rig is unique to him in this game. In previous games his body type was shared with the other fatalises and dire miralis, and the Leviathan skeleton may be the same or an offshoot of his rig (think lagiacrus).
@@weebovv3176 No one said anything about technical aspects like skeletons and animations this is about the scientific parts of the game and the unique characteristics of the monsters they have the same body type but different skeletons Teostra is way beefier than the velkhana and vaal hazak and the rathalos is like 2x the size of the legiana and has a different build too but they share the same skeleton🤓
@@utsuro1165 skeleton is the most essential thing. It defines how a monster's posture is gonna be and how it's gonna be shaped. According to OP technically all Elder Dragons by definition are (almost) six limbed, four legs and two for wings. His comment doesn't stand out any special then cause Alatreon and Fatalis both being six limbed is only natural.
@@silentprotagonist3786 we're talking about animation skeletons but I guess I understand what you mean, Fatalis' anatomical skeleton is different, It has a longer neck, its legs are diagonal like a lizard and not vertical like a Lion or Teostra/Alatreon BUT the guy was talking about body types and Fatalis and Alatreon are almost the same size when it comes to muscle, Rib cage, Pelvis etc
He wrecks everything man given his damage output is insane and this was just his base form imagine what his true form could do (where he turns his fire into blue) god I would not begin to imagine the damage output of his true form he would just one shot at everything there is lol well makes sense he is god of elder dragons after all
I wonder if every other monsters team up can they win or are they just getting wiped out together Also it makes it look like Fatalis was just playing with you at first, and only get serious very later on.
I call this battle "Eternal Conflict of dragon gods" Also i love how Alatreon turns the stage all ablaze when using a wide-ranged fire attack. Imagine if we could make a custom/modified arena with those effects.
That moment of darkness right before the very end really brought out the world ending power of these two. Imagine if Fatalis used his nova in the dark, would've been so beautiful to see. And they didn't even get to his blue fire phase yet lol.
Alatreon broke both of his horns, Fatalis wouldn’t have those blue flames. His flame would do the same amount of damage it did in phase 1. However, it would be interesting to see how much damage his phase 3 attacks do.
@@marksullivan00 I remember a time when I accidentally locked one of my teammates out during the second Dracarys Nova. It reminded me of that poison chamber scene in the movie 'The Rock' Damn I miss Sean Connery! It was a mixture of two of my favorite movies by him! (The other being Dragon heart.)
16:42 i love how fatalis just outplayed ala so hard, he tried to do his fire nuke but fatalis did it first, he tried to do his charge but then fatalis did it first too
Naaa It was sad to see Alatreons special move not do any damage while Fatalis just scorched him.... Happy to see him survive or head on tho it brings a smile to my face
I guess the mechanics of fatalis' ultimate attack is more of a hide and seek kind of attack while alatreon's ultimate attacks is more of a "deal enough damage to make me deal less damage"
Alatreon is more of an AOE monster which is why most of its attacks seem like they're aimed at Fatalis, but they aren't. And with Fatalis it's really obvious he's only aiming for the hunter. None of their AI's interact with anything beside the Hunters.
The fire breath attack he does on the ground makes him look so badass during the night on stage. The way his face and eyes light up looks so intimidating. Oh and the INSANE damage his ultimate attack deals is absolutely bonkers. Truly the God of all monsters
@@IHaino no...it couldn't alatreon lore wise does not have the power to do that. Stop trying to out them in the same bracket. The alatreon is not a black dragon...tf that title ONLY belongs to fatty. No other elder alatreon included was ever given that name slow your roll.
I like to think of that as an apocaliptic scenario after both monsters unleashed their full strengths and tore everything down to pieces and ash. It's just Alatreons dragon phase lighting effect on an already dark arena tho
@GunlessSnake There was never an official statement on there being such a fight, but we did hint it in an ecology video. However, we do have a four way fight planned and this one is going to be a really good one.see: ruclips.net/channel/UCvtgoqBbyD1STrwCf4Fu10gcommunity?lb=UgxJ1KXIyf1NwrqWVJB4AaABCQ
It is interesting to note how Fatty’s ultimate deals damage while most other incredibly damaging ultimates don’t. Would be interesting to see how it would have played out if it had been more balanced lol. Though I will say, Alatreon was giving him a run for his money at first.
@@ibs_haver But, if Ala nova doesn't work, why not remove the dmg from fatalis nova to make it fair? Talking bout balance at this point is retarded, but holy shit that nova melts other monsters, its busted as fuck!
@@JLPais-cp8th It's working, but it just deals 400 damage in 5 seconds(if not nerfed through elemental damage). For a normal hunter this is a death sentence but for Fatalis it's just a scratch at best.
@@kaen4299 it did 30 damage to fatalis, that's absolutely unfair. if fatalis is allowed to deal the entirety of its damage with schrade's demise alatreon should also have a full power escaton judgment either that or nerf schrade's demise, it's the same problem with sapphire of the emperor which is a oneshot attack just like fatalis. but for some reason safi simply doesn't work properly. i know fatalis is supposed to be strong but if we want to just ignore every other monster's ability to deal damage for the sake of entertainment we could just make fatalis deal infinite damage with every attack since it's the only one allowed to use his full potential, that or we could actually balance it to make it comparable to the other finishing attacks which wouldbe much more interesting instead of just making every video a race to fatalis phase change
Well to be fair he is one of the 3 black dragons and it never really gives a defined answer for which is the strongest of them all a battle royal with these and dire miralis the 3rd black dragon would be epic
It helped that most of Fatalis’ attacks were dead-ended by the hunter model and didn’t actually hit Alatreon unlike Alatreon’s wide ranging attacks on Fatalis. But an actual battle between these two would be quite the spectacle
@@ungabungasaed3903 I don't understand why its that way, maybe he has so much fire in him its overwhelming if more is added? Not sure what his resistances were in older games, water or ice seems like the obvious choices.
@@SirChubblesSteen He himself is not weak to fire, he makes his scales stronger with the melted parts of hunters, fire will melt that armor off (why in his final form hes so hot internally it starts melting the armor off by itself) Think of it like Kulve being weak to thunder with her mantle on or Jyuratodus being weak to water with his mud on despite neither of them actually being weak to the element themselves
Well they’re both Black Dragons, both top lions of the food chain except Fatalis is highest of the hierarchy while Alatreon is second or maybe probably third since there’s Dire Miralis
@@plus-delta4477 well but every other monster would have died right there and befor fatalis did his schrade's demise alatreon was in the lead if only his escaton judgement would do realistic damage to other monsters. I still think fatalis would beat him tho
Anyone else get slight PTSD just from hearing the sounds these two make with their moves? Hear Escaton Judgement and I'm like "oh shit, did we clear the dps check?" Hah
@@gaminggenie8339 I've been looking for a reason as I was so confused too. But I found a comment that said it's because escaton judgement is coded towards players who did not do reach the dps check and is designed to cart them. Fatalis on the other hand does raw fixed massage damage. I think this makes sense but yeah. It's sad, wish we could've seen alatreon's nova make a difference even though it's obvious fatalis would still win :/
I love how Fatalis seemingly knows exactly what attacks Alatreon does that are threatening to him so he staggers him out of them, for instance, the lightning lines
@@lizeo85 actually before that ultimate flame attack Fatalis was actually winning. (This is before Fatalis’s ultimate move) Fatalis: 24912 Alatreon: 22253
@@lizeo85 Nope Fatalis was winning he has an actual overall higher percentage of health with his being 1000s ahead also we didn’t even hit all the phases.
@@ey992 Alatreon was winning, look at the percentages those are what matter, Fatalis was losing more health and faster than Alatreon. The original difference in hp is 5k, Alatreon narrowed it down to 2k very fast, besides if Escaton Judgement dealt damage and Fatalis' horns eventually break, Alatreon would have won, but obviously Schrade's Demise is the most powerful attack ever so Fatalis wins I guess.
Guys keep in mind that fatty gets a damage boost after phase 3 starts, and uses the semi-ultimate move a few times. I’m pretty sure fatalis would win even if escaton did do reasonable damage.
BEST FREAKEN FIGHT EVER AMAZING BRAVO DUDE MY FAVORITE PART WAS WHEN alatreon went fire mode at the end and changed the maps looks for the final battle and he really beat up fatalis at the end but he just couldn't do it
The fact the sky darkened is so awesome from a lore nerd standpoint. Also they were practically even except for Fatalis at full power. I would love to see a fight with Fatalis in just his purple mode against Alatreon, maybe start him at half health and see how damaging the purple fire is from a non one shot standpoint. LOVE THIS CHANNEL!
Imagine your enemy constantly barraging you with attacks so that you're stunned all the time and unable to dish out decent damage. Now you know what it feels like Alatreon
@@noahgarcia2711 Because other people have tested the damage values and from their word they say it gets stronger and which makes sense because every time you don’t die from it (I don’t mean carts I mean like actual canonical deaths) he tries harder and harder to kill you.
@@spinomania1921 When you get hit by it yes you live but you get knocked down which if you stay down you won’t get damaged but if you are a monster well we saw what happened there.
Wow... just wow.... that was actually a lot better than I expected. Even if Safi did survive did longer, Alatreon did give Fatalis a run for his money. His damage output on Fatalis was a lot higher than Fatalis to Alatreon. One of my favorite parts of seeing Alatreon fight is when the lighting changes within that fight, and it doesn’t disappoint her. If it’s possible, could you just nerf the damage output of Fatalis ultimate. I really want to see how far Alatreon can go when the fight his even and how he would fare against third phase Fatalis. Overall, this is probably my fourth most favorite fight in this RUclips channel, and it gets a 9/10. Also for those who are interested, I have a survey that ranks every MHWI base monsters in the game. I’ll keep the poll open until sometime next month, and I will share the results soon. I would send a link here, but MSS has a strict rule for having links in the comment section. But you guys can access the survey by looking at the community tab Ruiner vs Nerg fight when the fight was released where he shared the survey. Another method would be to go to Reddit and search MHWI Survey. You should find the survey there as the first two results you’ll find are mine. Thanks.
In phase 1 alatreon was winning (which surprised me because he started in ice which meant that fatalis dealt a lot more damage than he otherwise would have and because of horn breaks he stayed ice/dragon) Aside from the phase transfer alatreon was actually losing the second phase (lost his 9% health faster than he could deal 9% to fatalis). There are a few things to remember though. Fatalis' second horn would likely break in this second fase lowering his overal damage output down to fase 1 levels. If you remove phase transfers this would mean that Alatreon might win eventually if not for one issue. Fatalis' ai and the hunter position. It's somewhat obvious that the big cone fire breath was fatalis' primary damage source. The usage of this attack depends on the hunter's location relative to him so with perfect breath baiting fatalis would easily stomp alatreon but if the hunter sticks too close to him he'll never use it leading to an alatreon stomping fatalis. No real way to call it without removing the phase transitions and modding the AI to focus the monster
don't forget the extreme temperature shifts, 11:57 till 12:27 is basically fatty and ala trading blows to one another, freezing and melting one after another and it's so damn epic
The downside to EJ is that it's health based, which means it rly sucks against other monsters due to the massive health pools (as compared to a hunter's.) I was waitin to see what Fatty's ult would do and I wasn't disappointed lmao.
The arena turning to darkness is a clear representation of how dangerous these Black Dragons are compared to regular Elder Dragons. Elder Dragons in general can cause nature to run wild but only Black Dragons can turn every conceivable thing on earth be left in ruins
This battle was soooo amazing!!! Im pretty sure that the hole pitch black arena wasnt intendend it probably was a bug or something but it looked so cool combined with Fatalis flames and Alatreon's elemental chaos. I would love to see a battle between Full energy Safi and last phase Fati. You are the best Monster Slayer Squad
It's a shame the Alatreon super nova move doesn't effect other monsters, would have made it a lot more fair since the fatalis ultimate move effects the ala but ala ultimate move doesn't effect fatalis. Still great vid !
I don't think that make a different in the outcome as 1 ulti from Fatalis took out 67% of Alatreon hp. If anything it would just make the fight shorter as the time between the phases will be shorter and for sure Alatreon can't eat 2 ulti attacks back to back and survive. The damage will be more yes but the outcome stays the same.
I wish we could see this without the fatalis transition. It's obvious who wins since that does like a full monsters health bar, I'd be interested to see if alatreon could win if he didnt have to tank those.
@@spinomania1921 Most likely didn’t feel any affect but when the big explosion was coming that is when he realized he fucked up or in an actual battle Fatalis would first break Alatreon’s wings because he is the smartest monster.
We need to do a video that us just how Alatreon's lighting affects every location because some of these Alatreon video have made places look so cool in certain Actives
Alatreon: Take this! Escaton Judgment ! *Fatalis loses ~200 HP, less than 1%* Fatalis: Here's my *weakened* Nova blast! *Alatreon loses ~18K health, 67% of his HP*
I'm fairly certain that without phase transitions, or at least if they did zero damage to other monsters like Escaton does, Alatreon would have won this. He was already closing the default HP gap pretty quickly.
Dude...I entirely forgot about Fatalis' super move...once I got the reminder it brought me back to watching him use it on safi. Both these things got fucking molested by it. Holy shit.... Safi and Al did they're very damn best..on another note let's say this happened off screen. This is exactly why that second alatreon we fight was so very weak.
Fatalis is just longer. It's always been this way. It also has the ability to stand on its hind legs which further gives the impression that it's very large. Fatalis is around 4100cm and alatreon is around 2900cm. That difference is mainly cause of fatalis' crazy long neck and tail
@Gaming_Master - well don't worry about it. He's actually slightly longer than in the older games. He measures at 4100cm in world and 4000cm in the older games. Basically the same size
@@marksullivan00 Wth did you guys not play any MH at all?? The 3 Fatali are all the same size... As we can see in World, Fatalis is 41m long. Alatreon is almost 30m iirc.
Chaos Vs Order Also Damm! 13:38 Alatreon: Hahaa! Youre Loosing your Thouch Old man! Fatalis: Hehehe.... I was just toying with you... but ill humor you! Ill use 50% of my power now! Alatreon: ah... ah... im.... Thats Imposible! No way....
@Rukodiora Pretty sure the devs flat-out said that during the Last Stand Developer Diary. It's free to watch on RUclips. Also, didn't Buragi fucking annihilate you in another comment regarding that same topic?
@Rukodiora Nope. Just checked it out. You're wrong again. Where's your next excuse? Because I got Buragi on speed dial if you need another dose of verbal annihilation. *EDIT:* Do tell me, what was the original Japanese? Because even then, you have nothing to counter the fact that developers, the same guys who blasted Anderson for Diablos' toe structure, let the biggest lore drop in the series, allowed that translation to happen. Also the sheer fact that Fatalis is the *ONLY* monster in the series to ever have been proven to have destroyed a country. Not just any country, a landmass the size of France. *In an evening. That's 8-12 hours.* Don't say nonsense like "oH iT's JuSt FaNfIcTiOn", it's literally in the game; Twice mentioned in the cutscene before Fatalis, reinforced by the General in said cutscene and is even pondered by a very scared Handler. No, you have no counter to that; Dalamadur took a long time to shape Heaven's Mount, Safi'jiiva is over-reliant on bioenergy, Shara softens up the foundation of hills via vibration, Dire Miralis sinks islands and Oltura isn't even an actual world ender and was mistaken as one by the insane cult. To quote Buragi: All you have is "no lol".
Alatreon: Gets added with a amazing and fun fight with a good rework Fatalis: Gets added with a a amazing and fun fight with a good rework Dire Miralis: *cries in MH3U*
Oh I hope he does, really wish dalamadur returned too, it was kinda boring back in 4U so seeing it get reworked would be awesome, I also wished Gogma returned too lol it was one of the better done big fights
@@robinbuncic4016 yeah Alatreons elemental forms actually have lighting effects like how Teostras make the area have a red tint to them but this is just barely noticable in the Safi Arena but in other locations its REALLY noticable
What I have noticed, is that Alatreon flinches at basicly every hit from fatalis. Also the Escaton Judgement doesn't affect other monsters. I wish there was a mod that could fix this its a bit more fair.
That was a pretty cool fight. Especially how the skies and almost the very air turned dark as the fight progressed. Of course, Fatalis won because of his supernova, but i'll give Alatreon credit for holding out as long as he did. I'm not sure who would have won if Fatalis' supernova wouldn't do as much damage as it did.
@@carlmcbride9606 You do realize this is all game-mechanics, right? Kulve also won against Alatreon, despite that Alatreon should win by a landslide because of the Lore. This are not lore-fights... this are game-mechanics fights. And Alatreon was holding his own against Fatalis well enough, untill Shrade's Demise cleared his healthbar, while Escaton's Judgement did no damage. This is all because of game-mechanics.... lore has no say in these battles.
Everybody gangsta till Fatalis pulls out the phase transition
Ult diff
Shara Ishvalda: "Look how easily I cut through healthbars!"
Fatalis: "That's so cute."
It’s kinda sad how fatalis cheeses through Alatreons health with is nova 😭😂
Yea why didnt alatreons nova do any damage to fatalis
@@Tonttu18 Alatreon's ult is designed to cart players who don't meet the DPS check via rapid tic damage, but this doesn't apply to other monsters. Fatalis must be dealing lots of high fixed damage, to guarantee it will cart anyone who doesn't take shelter.
“Is there anyone out there who can finish this battle? Anyone? Anyone...”
The Greatest Jagras: “I can.”
Gogh Paratoad Cogh
Fatalis trio? Nah
Toad trio? Yah
@ES 46 It's like putting a lamb in a lion's cage, you decide who'se the lion and whose the lamb.
@Benjamin Lak if the greatest jagras is the lion then paratoad is a T-Rex.
“Great Jagras against a Black Dragon is just too bad cause after this Schrade’s gonna lose a dad.”
The avatar vs the firelord their battle was so powerful the sun was completely eclipsed
Well, technically they fought when Sozen's comet arrived tho, sooooooo...yeah xD
Ironically, an eclipse would screw over Ozai if he faced Aang at that time.
Except this take doesn’t end like the original
@@spacetacos7574 ikr😆
Their*
13:13 fatalis: call an ambulance
13:36: but not for me
😂 that was a good one
Jajaj c mamo
I’m done 😂
and not to mention the absolute amount of damage done
I really thought Alatreon would win until this moment
Fatalis and Alatreon: *go full on crazy on each other and unleash their strongest attacks*
THE LITERAL SUN: Aight I'm out XD
😆😆😆
that will probably happen if these two most powerful monsters ever fought
Not funny, didn’t laugh
Well, the old legends did say the sun would be blotted out.
That was just white fatalis blocking the sun to back up the fight
If Fatalis didn't used his Schrade Domain move this would've actually been a relly close fight but besides that this was beautiful
Wut
@@lionhart3865 his big move is called Schrade Domain or something like that
@@kento2851 I think he was referring to Fatalis's nova
@@lionhart3865 ahh ok
He can do that anywhere. Watch the Fatalis vs Safi fight.
Alatreon:*uses everything he had to destroy fatalis horn*
Fatalis : mmm you have my respect master of the elements
... But you need only one to destroy the world .....
F I R E
Ah yes the avatr
Mster of the elemts
@@friendlyneigborhoodrajang4282 ys
TF2's Pyro approves 🍭🌈🦄 🤣🤣
@@friendlyneigborhoodrajang4282 something about your name tells me you aren't so friendly
@@isaacm7934 careful, thats learning
It's amazing how they both capture the "basic dragon" look so well while still looking distinct from one another.
Ah yes "basic dragon"
I once saw a comment which compared Alatreon to medieval dragon art, and Fatalis to mythological depictions form the 1950s.
@@sangheiliwarrior86Yes Fatalis is very classic dragon design.
@@SillyGuy67 fatalis looks exactly like the basic western dragon you would expect
Alatreon uhm idk he has an emo "hairstyle" but maybe still basic dragon shape I guess?
@@playernormal9731 maybe i guess
Despite them having the same body types it’s fascinating to see how differently they move. Alatreon moves like a Tiger with wings, but Fatalis moves more like a Snake given a set of legs.
Well that's because they don't have the same body types. Alatreon uses the same animation skeleton as the other elders (specifically kushala, teo, namielle and lunastra). Fatalis' rig is unique to him in this game. In previous games his body type was shared with the other fatalises and dire miralis, and the Leviathan skeleton may be the same or an offshoot of his rig (think lagiacrus).
@@weebovv3176 No one said anything about technical aspects like skeletons and animations this is about the scientific parts of the game and the unique characteristics of the monsters they have the same body type but different skeletons
Teostra is way beefier than the velkhana and vaal hazak and the rathalos is like 2x the size of the legiana and has a different build too but they share the same skeleton🤓
@@utsuro1165 skeleton is the most essential thing. It defines how a monster's posture is gonna be and how it's gonna be shaped.
According to OP technically all Elder Dragons by definition are (almost) six limbed, four legs and two for wings. His comment doesn't stand out any special then cause Alatreon and Fatalis both being six limbed is only natural.
@@silentprotagonist3786 we're talking about animation skeletons but I guess I understand what you mean, Fatalis' anatomical skeleton is different, It has a longer neck, its legs are diagonal like a lizard and not vertical like a Lion or Teostra/Alatreon
BUT the guy was talking about body types and Fatalis and Alatreon are almost the same size when it comes to muscle, Rib cage, Pelvis etc
@@utsuro1165 nah i totally get what OP means, just saying the other guy bringing model skeletons into the discussions isn't absolutely invalid either
Alatreon: *breaks both of Fatalis’ horns*
Fatalis: “Alright, you’ve had your fun, but it’s about time to end this little game”
Alatreon is the ones with horns not fatalis
@@aaaab531 Fatalis has horns as well, what are you talking about?
@@aaaab531 are you blind? , that's why you need fatalis horn to craft weapons and armors.
It was payback since Fatalis did break both of Alatreon's Horns, nerfing his Judgment.
NOW ALL I WANT TO SEE IT FATALIS USE HIS ULTIMATE AGAINST EVERY MONSTER LOW TIER AND ALL!
It's instant one shot to everything. Fatalis is truly a god.
He wrecks everything man given his damage output is insane and this was just his base form imagine what his true form could do (where he turns his fire into blue) god I would not begin to imagine the damage output of his true form he would just one shot at everything there is lol well makes sense he is god of elder dragons after all
I calculated the amount of damage that that first Kingdom Raze attack did. It did upwards of over *18,765 damage* to Alatreon's HP in total!
I wonder if every other monsters team up can they win or are they just getting wiped out together
Also it makes it look like Fatalis was just playing with you at first, and only get serious very later on.
Bbq party
The battle was so legendary. They brought upon the age of dark.
Alatreon: You could end this now!!
Fatalis: Yes, I can and I will succeed where the firelord failed.
Nice I also did a Avatar Refrence last time.
I call this battle "Eternal Conflict of dragon gods"
Also i love how Alatreon turns the stage all ablaze when using a wide-ranged fire attack. Imagine if we could make a custom/modified arena with those effects.
That moment of darkness right before the very end really brought out the world ending power of these two. Imagine if Fatalis used his nova in the dark, would've been so beautiful to see.
And they didn't even get to his blue fire phase yet lol.
Alatreon broke both of his horns, Fatalis wouldn’t have those blue flames. His flame would do the same amount of damage it did in phase 1. However, it would be interesting to see how much damage his phase 3 attacks do.
Alatreon did fine till Fatalis brought out his Dracarys Nova.
he did fine until Fatty pulled out a reverse uno card
@@marksullivan00 fatalis be like:trolololololololololololo!
@@JustUsCrazyBoyz lol
@@marksullivan00 I remember a time when I accidentally locked one of my teammates out during the second Dracarys Nova. It reminded me of that poison chamber scene in the movie 'The Rock'
Damn I miss Sean Connery! It was a mixture of two of my favorite movies by him! (The other being Dragon heart.)
Not a fair fight. Fatalis took 0 damage during Echelon Judgement!
4:03
Fatalis; this room is too cold!!
Alatreon: no its too hot!!
16:42 i love how fatalis just outplayed ala so hard, he tried to do his fire nuke but fatalis did it first, he tried to do his charge but then fatalis did it first too
Naaa It was sad to see Alatreons special move not do any damage while Fatalis just scorched him.... Happy to see him survive or head on tho it brings a smile to my face
I guess the mechanics of fatalis' ultimate attack is more of a hide and seek kind of attack while alatreon's ultimate attacks is more of a "deal enough damage to make me deal less damage"
This fight was surprisingly epic in a mechanical standpoint where the Ai's actually interacted quite well
I feel like Fatalis focused on the hunter way more than Alatreon. But it's not like it matters for him.
@@Dylangillian "l feel like" the fuck does that even mean
@@Dylangillian That's because Alatreon is faster and all over the place, it's natural for Fatalis to miss it every now and then.
Alatreon is more of an AOE monster which is why most of its attacks seem like they're aimed at Fatalis, but they aren't. And with Fatalis it's really obvious he's only aiming for the hunter. None of their AI's interact with anything beside the Hunters.
@@Dylangillian ⁸
The fire breath attack he does on the ground makes him look so badass during the night on stage. The way his face and eyes light up looks so intimidating. Oh and the INSANE damage his ultimate attack deals is absolutely bonkers. Truly the God of all monsters
13:53 ALATREON'S HEALTH DROPPED FROM 79% TO 12%!!!
CAN WE OFFICIALLY CALL FATALIS BROKEN NOW?
He was officially broken since day 1
Also seeing Escaton Judgment doing literally 0 damage is depressing... :
Well fatalis was responsible for wiping out an entire civilization after all ⚆ _ ⚆
@@Kim-ug4fy Well Alatreon could have done the same because thay both black Dragons and... He possess all the Elements
@@IHaino no...it couldn't alatreon lore wise does not have the power to do that. Stop trying to out them in the same bracket. The alatreon is not a black dragon...tf that title ONLY belongs to fatty. No other elder alatreon included was ever given that name slow your roll.
They took each other to the void before the end
The darkness from their legends has appeared to be a black dragon
I hope Dire Miralis manages to complete his training in the void and return in future games... :(
I like to think of that as an apocaliptic scenario after both monsters unleashed their full strengths and tore everything down to pieces and ash. It's just Alatreons dragon phase lighting effect on an already dark arena tho
looks like they went to another dimension or the sun has darkened cuz of the cataclsymic power of these two fighting
The two dragons fought balanced and with harmony...
But then everything's changed, when the fire fatalis attacked...
Now that i think about it... this turf war is basically Avatar (Alatreon) vs Fire Lord Ozai (Fatalis) lmao...
Can you imagine the amount of flames crimson fatalis nova would create? If only iceborne wasn't over...
@@edalvis771 imagine Crimson Fatalis doing Fatalis nova, but all blue fire
I calculated the amount of damage that that first Kingdom Raze attack did. It did upwards of over *18,765 damage* to Alatreon's HP in total!
Also, are we getting that rumoured Ruiner Nergigante vs. Furious Rajang vs. Savage Devijho free-for-all finally? :D
@GunlessSnake There was never an official statement on there being such a fight, but we did hint it in an ecology video. However, we do have a four way fight planned and this one is going to be a really good one.see: ruclips.net/channel/UCvtgoqBbyD1STrwCf4Fu10gcommunity?lb=UgxJ1KXIyf1NwrqWVJB4AaABCQ
Even better alayreon was in ice mode so it took extra damage
The battle is so epic it pledged Schrade into darkness! Truly a battle of the Black Dragons...
幾多ものハンターを葬ってきた初代伝説、後輩だろうが焼き尽くすそのおぞましさは流石といったところ…
Alatreon: was it a tough fight?
Fatalis: Yes, it was.
Alatreon: No, you lied.
🤣
It is interesting to note how Fatty’s ultimate deals damage while most other incredibly damaging ultimates don’t. Would be interesting to see how it would have played out if it had been more balanced lol. Though I will say, Alatreon was giving him a run for his money at first.
Man rip if only alatreon's super nova actually worked on fatalis still great tho
It still would've lost because it just would've pushed Fatalis to his phase transitions sooner, and 2 of them is enough to kill Alatreon
@@ibs_haver But, if Ala nova doesn't work, why not remove the dmg from fatalis nova to make it fair? Talking bout balance at this point is retarded, but holy shit that nova melts other monsters, its busted as fuck!
@@JLPais-cp8th It's working, but it just deals 400 damage in 5 seconds(if not nerfed through elemental damage). For a normal hunter this is a death sentence but for Fatalis it's just a scratch at best.
@@kaen4299 also its likely that fatalis attacks are Elemental damage which could also reduce it.
@@kaen4299 it did 30 damage to fatalis, that's absolutely unfair. if fatalis is allowed to deal the entirety of its damage with schrade's demise alatreon should also have a full power escaton judgment either that or nerf schrade's demise, it's the same problem with sapphire of the emperor which is a oneshot attack just like fatalis. but for some reason safi simply doesn't work properly. i know fatalis is supposed to be strong but if we want to just ignore every other monster's ability to deal damage for the sake of entertainment we could just make fatalis deal infinite damage with every attack since it's the only one allowed to use his full potential, that or we could actually balance it to make it comparable to the other finishing attacks which wouldbe much more interesting instead of just making every video a race to fatalis phase change
Not gonna lie, Alatreon did much better than I thought it would have
Well to be fair he is one of the 3 black dragons and it never really gives a defined answer for which is the strongest of them all a battle royal with these and dire miralis the 3rd black dragon would be epic
@@kyanfleming7175 I’d say White Fatty is the strongest. The G-rank White Fatty in Frontier is literally a god.
It helped that most of Fatalis’ attacks were dead-ended by the hunter model and didn’t actually hit Alatreon unlike Alatreon’s wide ranging attacks on Fatalis. But an actual battle between these two would be quite the spectacle
@@kyanfleming7175It is defined. All variants of fatalis are above everything. They are the apex. White fatalis being the absolute strongest creature.
Fatalis utterly decimated Alatreon's health with one attack, that was amazing! I thought that it wouldn't cause so much damage but it did
エスカトンジャッジメント
ダメージないにしても
ミラの与えるダメージ量がバグレベル
Fatalis: "What is this? Fire? Cute."
Fatalis is 2 star weak to fire so kinda works
@@SirChubblesSteen Kinda dumb on Capcom's part to male Fatalis weak to fire.
@@ungabungasaed3903 I don't understand why its that way, maybe he has so much fire in him its overwhelming if more is added? Not sure what his resistances were in older games, water or ice seems like the obvious choices.
@@SirChubblesSteen Ice I kinda get for a weakness, but water and fire? Those should be useless against Fatalis.
@@SirChubblesSteen He himself is not weak to fire, he makes his scales stronger with the melted parts of hunters, fire will melt that armor off (why in his final form hes so hot internally it starts melting the armor off by itself) Think of it like Kulve being weak to thunder with her mantle on or Jyuratodus being weak to water with his mud on despite neither of them actually being weak to the element themselves
12:02 was an awesome moment in this fight with both just hitting each other left and right fire 🔥 against ice ❄️
Loved this fight so much! I was expecting Fatalis to win anyway, but I still have my love to Alatreon
I'm surprised and happy Alatreon was able to tank Fatalis's special move
Well they’re both Black Dragons, both top lions of the food chain except Fatalis is highest of the hierarchy while Alatreon is second or maybe probably third since there’s Dire Miralis
By "tank" you mean lose half it's health and hey bodied, right?
@@plus-delta4477 well but every other monster would have died right there and befor fatalis did his schrade's demise alatreon was in the lead if only his escaton judgement would do realistic damage to other monsters. I still think fatalis would beat him tho
I don't really like the idea that fire miralis is a black dragon
@@prestigehunter9729 Excuse me?
Anyone else get slight PTSD just from hearing the sounds these two make with their moves? Hear Escaton Judgement and I'm like "oh shit, did we clear the dps check?" Hah
Lmao yes! Escaton Judgment makes my stomach drop every time
surprisingly, even w all that fire fatalis did not clear the dps check haha
@@brettz5288 same
@14:56 Alatreon judgement attack doesn't hurt Fatalis. That's impossible and this is stupid honestly. It makes no sense.
@@gaminggenie8339 I've been looking for a reason as I was so confused too. But I found a comment that said it's because escaton judgement is coded towards players who did not do reach the dps check and is designed to cart them. Fatalis on the other hand does raw fixed massage damage. I think this makes sense but yeah. It's sad, wish we could've seen alatreon's nova make a difference even though it's obvious fatalis would still win :/
Everyone: The two strongest bosses in the game? This fight's going to be close.
Fatalis's super move: Now why would you think that?
This is the end of the world right here, ladies and gentlemen.
Now this was an epic battle. The music itself was extremely satisfying and fitting for the scene.
this is a dream come true holy crap two of my favorite monsters battling to the death was a dream before now its reality.
I love how Fatalis seemingly knows exactly what attacks Alatreon does that are threatening to him so he staggers him out of them, for instance, the lightning lines
Can't believe Alatreon survived from that devastating flame at 13:40
if it were not for that surely Ala would have won..
in fact he was winning
@@lizeo85 actually before that ultimate flame attack Fatalis was actually winning.
(This is before Fatalis’s ultimate move)
Fatalis: 24912
Alatreon: 22253
@@lizeo85 Nope Fatalis was winning he has an actual overall higher percentage of health with his being 1000s ahead also we didn’t even hit all the phases.
@@ey992 Alatreon was winning, look at the percentages those are what matter, Fatalis was losing more health and faster than Alatreon. The original difference in hp is 5k, Alatreon narrowed it down to 2k very fast, besides if Escaton Judgement dealt damage and Fatalis' horns eventually break, Alatreon would have won, but obviously Schrade's Demise is the most powerful attack ever so Fatalis wins I guess.
Guys keep in mind that fatty gets a damage boost after phase 3 starts, and uses the semi-ultimate move a few times. I’m pretty sure fatalis would win even if escaton did do reasonable damage.
Idk why but I had a feeling that in the final stage champion gundyr would come out of nowhere
A man of culture
*SHOULDER BASH
*KICK
@@D_us_T Champion gundyr is a great sword main at heart
@@spinomania1921
I think he is more of a insect glaive main cause thats closer to a Halbert but GS works too.
@@D_us_T absoloutely not. Gundyr wouldnt go near any of the weeb weapons. He would be gs or hammer for sure
this is badass! i love seeing two powerful old world elder dragons going at it! this is sure to cause cataclysmic events all around the world!
BEST FREAKEN FIGHT EVER AMAZING BRAVO DUDE MY FAVORITE PART WAS WHEN alatreon went fire mode at the end and changed the maps looks for the final battle and he really beat up fatalis at the end but he just couldn't do it
Fatalis: I acknowledge your power Alatreon. As a sign of my respect; I will now use all of mine!
The fact the sky darkened is so awesome from a lore nerd standpoint.
Also they were practically even except for Fatalis at full power.
I would love to see a fight with Fatalis in just his purple mode against Alatreon, maybe start him at half health and see how damaging the purple fire is from a non one shot standpoint.
LOVE THIS CHANNEL!
spoiler alert it would not end better the purple fire mode boost fatalis power to ridiculess standards
Imagine your enemy constantly barraging you with attacks so that you're stunned all the time and unable to dish out decent damage.
Now you know what it feels like Alatreon
13:40
Now thats alot of damage took 70% of alatreon hp
Keep in mind that each Schrade’s demise it gets even stronger and stronger.
@@diousthomas8878 really? What’s your basis?
@@noahgarcia2711 Because other people have tested the damage values and from their word they say it gets stronger and which makes sense because every time you don’t die from it (I don’t mean carts I mean like actual canonical deaths) he tries harder and harder to kill you.
@@diousthomas8878 But the phase 3 schrade's demise is surviveable though
@@spinomania1921 When you get hit by it yes you live but you get knocked down which if you stay down you won’t get damaged but if you are a monster well we saw what happened there.
Alatreon: enters dragon mode while Fatalis is in phase 2
The sky: Bravo six, going dark
lol
ムフェトの王の雫やアルバのエスカトンはハンター以外だとほんのちょっとしかダメージ入らないのに対しミラの劫火はハンター以外でも体力ゴリッゴリに削る仕様なのやっぱ異次元なんだなミラボレアスは
さすがにこれガバすぎない？w ジャッジメントの威力低すぎるのもそうだけどミラボレアスの劫火の最初のスリップダメージもないし
Wow... just wow.... that was actually a lot better than I expected. Even if Safi did survive did longer, Alatreon did give Fatalis a run for his money. His damage output on Fatalis was a lot higher than Fatalis to Alatreon. One of my favorite parts of seeing Alatreon fight is when the lighting changes within that fight, and it doesn’t disappoint her. If it’s possible, could you just nerf the damage output of Fatalis ultimate. I really want to see how far Alatreon can go when the fight his even and how he would fare against third phase Fatalis. Overall, this is probably my fourth most favorite fight in this RUclips channel, and it gets a 9/10.
Also for those who are interested, I have a survey that ranks every MHWI base monsters in the game. I’ll keep the poll open until sometime next month, and I will share the results soon. I would send a link here, but MSS has a strict rule for having links in the comment section. But you guys can access the survey by looking at the community tab Ruiner vs Nerg fight when the fight was released where he shared the survey. Another method would be to go to Reddit and search MHWI Survey. You should find the survey there as the first two results you’ll find are mine. Thanks.
Curious to know the top 3
In phase 1 alatreon was winning (which surprised me because he started in ice which meant that fatalis dealt a lot more damage than he otherwise would have and because of horn breaks he stayed ice/dragon)
Aside from the phase transfer alatreon was actually losing the second phase (lost his 9% health faster than he could deal 9% to fatalis). There are a few things to remember though. Fatalis' second horn would likely break in this second fase lowering his overal damage output down to fase 1 levels.
If you remove phase transfers this would mean that Alatreon might win eventually if not for one issue. Fatalis' ai and the hunter position. It's somewhat obvious that the big cone fire breath was fatalis' primary damage source. The usage of this attack depends on the hunter's location relative to him so with perfect breath baiting fatalis would easily stomp alatreon but if the hunter sticks too close to him he'll never use it leading to an alatreon stomping fatalis. No real way to call it without removing the phase transitions and modding the AI to focus the monster
@@dirandrous7682 I constantly keep tabs of the results, and the results always shift for most monsters.
don't forget the extreme temperature shifts, 11:57 till 12:27 is basically fatty and ala trading blows to one another, freezing and melting one after another and it's so damn epic
yeah I agree avatar boy is indeed the second strongest, being behind firelord Fatty
Alatreon: I command all the elements. I command you. Bow down to me.
Fatalis: Coochy coochy coo. Is wittle Alatreon gonna throw a trantrum?
Alatreon: is winning the Fight
Fatalis: 75% health
The downside to EJ is that it's health based, which means it rly sucks against other monsters due to the massive health pools (as compared to a hunter's.) I was waitin to see what Fatty's ult would do and I wasn't disappointed lmao.
It is interesting to see the background of the map clearly.
The arena turning to darkness is a clear representation of how dangerous these Black Dragons are compared to regular Elder Dragons. Elder Dragons in general can cause nature to run wild but only Black Dragons can turn every conceivable thing on earth be left in ruins
例え劫火のダメージを0にしてもミラが赤熱化したらごり押せるんだろうなって
頭2段階破壊は出来てるみたいだけど単純に範囲に優れた強モーション増えるからなぁ
This battle was soooo amazing!!!
Im pretty sure that the hole pitch black arena wasnt intendend it probably was a bug or something but it looked so cool combined with Fatalis flames and Alatreon's elemental chaos.
I would love to see a battle between Full energy Safi and last phase Fati.
You are the best Monster Slayer Squad
The elemental resistance of Alatreon is incredible, he resist the super nova of fatalis.
I don’t want to be that guy, but Alatreon was roasted alive
これの何か恐ろしいか、ってアルバが簡単に死なないようにミラボレアスが下方修正されているところ
攻撃力、HP、部位耐久値全てに下方修正がかかってる
それでも勝てないんだからミラボは最強なんですよね…
エスカトンのダメージがカスなアルバも下方修正入ってると信じたい
@@無敗の剛欲同盟長 いいえ、即死判定は「ハンターにしか」発生しなくて、それ以外の対象には内部的にモーション値500の特大連続ヒット判定になってます
なので仮にオトモネコが喰らえば即死こそ受けないが瞬く間に撤退確定になるし、他のモンスター相手にはおぞましいほどにHPを奪っていく攻撃になる、ということです
@@メロンザマス アルバはミラボの前座になってしまったんや…新大陸のアルバは…もう…🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@無敗の剛欲同盟長 ミラボの強さを見せたいが為のプログラマーの強い意志を感じますね、クォレハ
@@SyuraRaid 旧大陸アルバがミラの劫火を避ける知能があればいける
新大陸は弱い（自分は旧大陸のアルバやるとめちゃくちゃ時間掛かります、新大陸はそんなに掛からない＝旧大陸強し）
Lore wise these two would end the world with their battle and i think lore wise that it could go either way.
They would end the world true but lore wise fatalis would still kill alatreon but I dont think neither would go after another
@@griezmannisthebest8850 yh as of now alatreon is the weakest black dragon so he would still lose after a long drawn fight
Lore wise they will get their asses beaten by our hunter before that happens.
@@griezmannisthebest8850 Nope, that's not true nor said in lore
@@crossfire4691 Nope, It isn´t
White & Red Fatalis : Good job fatty, your old bro is so proud of you. Can't wait for our turn.
It's a shame the Alatreon super nova move doesn't effect other monsters, would have made it a lot more fair since the fatalis ultimate move effects the ala but ala ultimate move doesn't effect fatalis. Still great vid !
I don't think that make a different in the outcome as 1 ulti from Fatalis took out 67% of Alatreon hp. If anything it would just make the fight shorter as the time between the phases will be shorter and for sure Alatreon can't eat 2 ulti attacks back to back and survive. The damage will be more yes but the outcome stays the same.
Besides now i look closely it actually did affect Fatalis at 14:49 but barely
How very Fatalis of it to really hate all living creatures. After killing Alatreon, Fatalis decides to burn it to ashes.
I wish we could see this without the fatalis transition. It's obvious who wins since that does like a full monsters health bar, I'd be interested to see if alatreon could win if he didnt have to tank those.
Lorewise alatreon can maybe ***FUCKING FLY ASWELL***
@@starmarinrtur1493 Same thing with Fatalis though but then again from another standpoint he had no idea what the hell Fatalis was doing.
@@diousthomas8878 He could've realized what he was doing as soon as fatalis started firebreathing though
@@spinomania1921 Most likely didn’t feel any affect but when the big explosion was coming that is when he realized he fucked up or in an actual battle Fatalis would first break Alatreon’s wings because he is the smartest monster.
@@diousthomas8878 don't agree that he's the smartest but I do believe he would break the wings and horns of alatreon to cripple him
We need to do a video that us just how Alatreon's lighting affects every location because some of these Alatreon video have made places look so cool in certain Actives
Alatreon: Take this! Escaton Judgment ! *Fatalis loses ~200 HP, less than 1%*
Fatalis: Here's my *weakened* Nova blast! *Alatreon loses ~18K health, 67% of his HP*
ええか？アルバ、これが禁忌としての経験の差や
これ公式じゃないしw
さすがミラボレアスやなぁ
Epic fight!
Please Furious Rajang vs Savage Deviljho vs Seething Bazelgeuse!!
I'm fairly certain that without phase transitions, or at least if they did zero damage to other monsters like Escaton does, Alatreon would have won this. He was already closing the default HP gap pretty quickly.
Dude...I entirely forgot about Fatalis' super move...once I got the reminder it brought me back to watching him use it on safi. Both these things got fucking molested by it. Holy shit.... Safi and Al did they're very damn best..on another note let's say this happened off screen. This is exactly why that second alatreon we fight was so very weak.
Alatreon: "I AM WINNING!! IN AM WINNING!! LOOK AT ME!"
Fatalis * flies into position for transition breath* : "ARE you winning, son?"
伝説な戦いだぁ！
究極の1（炎）を尖らせたミラボレアス対
高レベルな他属性攻撃とエスカトンを持つアルバトリオン…妄想が…現実に…
ありがとう！
@1 3 ありがとうございました！
You know what would be sick? Player-controlled monster battles.
we have something like that in Rise; but with mods in PC im sure that will be possible
Huh I always assumed fatalis was bigger than alatreon. Surprised to see there around the same size.
Fun Fact: Old World Alatreon (Or just Alatreon in other games) is bigger.
Fatalis is just longer. It's always been this way. It also has the ability to stand on its hind legs which further gives the impression that it's very large. Fatalis is around 4100cm and alatreon is around 2900cm. That difference is mainly cause of fatalis' crazy long neck and tail
@Gaming_Master - well don't worry about it. He's actually slightly longer than in the older games. He measures at 4100cm in world and 4000cm in the older games. Basically the same size
im pretty sure white fatty is much bigger than his younger black version am I right?
@@marksullivan00 Wth did you guys not play any MH at all?? The 3 Fatali are all the same size... As we can see in World, Fatalis is 41m long. Alatreon is almost 30m iirc.
そんな強いブレスを全範囲に放たれたらそら負けるわwww
Chaos Vs Order
Also Damm!
13:38
Alatreon: Hahaa! Youre Loosing your Thouch Old man!
Fatalis: Hehehe.... I was just toying with you... but ill humor you! Ill use 50% of my power now!
Alatreon: ah... ah... im.... Thats Imposible! No way....
アルバ「やめろ勝てるわけがない！あいつは伝説の黒龍なんだぞ！」
ドスジャグラス「やってみなきゃ分かんねぇー！」
お前は神を越えし者ぞ
お前神を恐れさせる神って言われてるだろーが
恐れさせる(勝てるとは言ってない)
Guys pls don't spoil anything cause i am waiting for my friend so we can watch it together
@Lone Wolf Nergigante ok but don't spoil for me k
I will tell you when me and my friend are done watching
You could just not read comments tho
@@grootgroot2208 Aaaaaaaaaaaah
Which is better?
Me doing a super nova move 13:37
Or
Alatreon doing his super move that cause an eclipse 14:54
“You call that fire? Lemme show you what true hellfire looks like. . .”
lorewise this is probably what would happen
Actually in the Lore Alatreon would Avoid this fight at all Costs and Fatalis frankly wouldn’t care if it happened or not
@Rukodiora Pretty sure the devs flat-out said that during the Last Stand Developer Diary. It's free to watch on RUclips.
Also, didn't Buragi fucking annihilate you in another comment regarding that same topic?
@Rukodiora Nope. Just checked it out. You're wrong again.
Where's your next excuse? Because I got Buragi on speed dial if you need another dose of verbal annihilation.
*EDIT:* Do tell me, what was the original Japanese? Because even then, you have nothing to counter the fact that developers, the same guys who blasted Anderson for Diablos' toe structure, let the biggest lore drop in the series, allowed that translation to happen.
Also the sheer fact that Fatalis is the *ONLY* monster in the series to ever have been proven to have destroyed a country. Not just any country, a landmass the size of France. *In an evening. That's 8-12 hours.* Don't say nonsense like "oH iT's JuSt FaNfIcTiOn", it's literally in the game; Twice mentioned in the cutscene before Fatalis, reinforced by the General in said cutscene and is even pondered by a very scared Handler.
No, you have no counter to that; Dalamadur took a long time to shape Heaven's Mount, Safi'jiiva is over-reliant on bioenergy, Shara softens up the foundation of hills via vibration, Dire Miralis sinks islands and Oltura isn't even an actual world ender and was mistaken as one by the insane cult.
To quote Buragi: All you have is "no lol".
@@ultragamer5952 Nice invent
Not really
Alatreon: Gets added with a amazing and fun fight with a good rework
Fatalis: Gets added with a a amazing and fun fight with a good rework
Dire Miralis: *cries in MH3U*
Dire Miralis might get a chance in Rise if we’re lucky XD
Oh I hope he does, really wish dalamadur returned too, it was kinda boring back in 4U so seeing it get reworked would be awesome, I also wished Gogma returned too lol it was one of the better done big fights
Two OP dragons: BATTLE TO THE DEATH
The character: hmmm yes...
STONE
13:40ここからエグい
Safi only survived as long as it did because of healing. Alatreon never stood a chance
Is so unsatisfying seeing Fatalis' ultimate move work but Alatreon's doesn't.
同じ禁忌古龍でもここまで格が違うとは...
@@無敗の剛欲同盟長
圧倒的にアルバが不利すぎる
ミラはダメージの判定おかしいし、正直納得いかん
ミラボレアス「劫火ナシでもいいけど手加減もナシな（火力、怯み耐久値無修正）」
Why was it so dark?!
When Alatreon goes into fire mode the area darkens I think
@@robinbuncic4016 yeah Alatreons elemental forms actually have lighting effects like how Teostras make the area have a red tint to them but this is just barely noticable in the Safi Arena but in other locations its REALLY noticable
@@drxavier1870 Ah I see
cuz the sun blot out, of the sheer power of Fatty and avatar boy fighting each other lol
知ってた。知ってたけどアルバが好きな自分からしたらやっぱ悲しいよなあ
3rd世代の俺も大好きなモンスターだったから、人間目線ではボレアスが脅威だったとはいえアルバを前座扱いはちょっと無いと思った
@@無敗の剛欲同盟長 まあおそらく俺らが倒したアルバが吹き返して満身創痍の状態なだけだと思うけど、ねえ…
@@無敗の剛欲同盟長 キョダイリュウノゼツメイニヨリもあるだろうし
あとはアルバが倒せない人用の救済とか？ないか笑
劫火、エスカトンなしでやったら
間違いなくアルバが勝ってたとは思う。
出来レースみるよりも劫火を使うまでの戦いだけ見てたらほぼアルバが圧倒してるんだよなぁ
元々ミラボは設定上さいつよポジションだったんじゃないの？
アルバ＝最強はアルバ信者の赤衣さんが勝手に言ってただけだし伝承で語られる内容、モンスター設定を忠実に再現し、モンスター各々の本当の実力を示してるワールドベースでのミラボレアス戦の難易度、スケールから見ても
個人的にはミラとアルバは同等格とは思ってるけどね
後上の方も書かれてるけどミラの攻撃力めっちゃ下方修正かけてこれやからなぁ多分もとの状態でやってたら簡単にアルバが倒されるってことでやったんだろうけど
というかまぁ公式もこういうことすること想定して作ってないし(各禁忌モンスターの技、判定等)さっき書いたようにこいつら二人の力は同等。
モンハン界最強はクック先生。以上閉廷！
Watching Alatreon get his shit rocked by Fatalis’ nova is incredibly satisfying.
What I have noticed, is that Alatreon flinches at basicly every hit from fatalis. Also the Escaton Judgement doesn't affect other monsters. I wish there was a mod that could fix this its a bit more fair.
Hunter sitting in both fire and ice breaths: This is fine.
This fight could be interesting if alatreon gets locked in fire mode instead of ice.
Alatreon: shoots flame balls
Fatalis: that's cute
エスカトン0ダメで劫火で8割持ってかれるとか不公平すぎる
@たつぼん
これは煽りじゃないってことを前もって言うけど、会話の意図を理解する努力をした方がいいよ
そもそもスリップダメージ自体がハンターにしか効かない“状態異常”だからしゃーない
エスカトンはオトモやランゴスタすら1ミリも削れない貧弱仕様で実装されてるけど劫火は単純な多段攻撃だから何でも倒せる
炎耐性アルバならどのくらい食らうんだろう
@@nuru1339 公平にしたところで勝敗は変わらないけどねってだけでしょ
アルバ野良集会所であなたと同じ名前の方と何日か前に遊んだけど同じ人ですか？w
プロハンターでも防護壁がなければ勝てないミラボレアスに対してここまで頑張ったアルバトリオンを賞賛したい
「劫火」無しだったらアルバ勝ってたぽいな。。。
まあ、初代裏ボスはこうでなきゃな
@@yumin6318 このミラボレアスは弱体化くらってるから弱体化してなかったらたぶんどちらにせよ勝てる
@@マウスリッキー-s9t この動画主は俺らが本当に見たいのはモンスター同士が互角の戦いを繰り広げることじゃなく、純粋に戦ったらどっちが強いのかってことに気付くべきだな
弱体化なんてナンセンスだ
ミラボ最終形態あるから無理そう
That was a pretty cool fight.
Especially how the skies and almost the very air turned dark as the fight progressed.
Of course, Fatalis won because of his supernova, but i'll give Alatreon credit for holding out as long as he did.
I'm not sure who would have won if Fatalis' supernova wouldn't do as much damage as it did.
What... fatalis won bc hes the strongest elder to walk the earth. Alatreon is a teir below fatalis according to lore. So no it was NEVER going to win
God all these mhw kids thinking fatty and ala are even remotely close to same level when the 10+ years of lore say otherwise.
@@carlmcbride9606 You do realize this is all game-mechanics, right?
Kulve also won against Alatreon, despite that Alatreon should win by a landslide because of the Lore.
This are not lore-fights... this are game-mechanics fights. And Alatreon was holding his own against Fatalis well enough, untill Shrade's Demise cleared his healthbar, while Escaton's Judgement did no damage. This is all because of game-mechanics.... lore has no say in these battles.
地球規模の大災害を起こせるモンスターと異次元の力を持つモンスター