Why These Two Poker Stars Were Banished From The Poker Community
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The Full Tilt Poker Scandal. Black Friday. The darkest day in poker. Whatever you want to call it, its impact on poker is undeniable and unescapable. We’ve even covered it twice on our channel in our deep dives on Chris Ferguson and Howard Lederer. But we wanted to go deeper. To discuss not just its devastating fall but also its massive rise.
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I still think about that $27.13 those crooks stole from me.
Never forget!
Me to
Lmao
i got my like 43.47 or some such, but it took maybe 1-2 years. still surprised lederer and ferguson are alive, attempting to rob hundred thousandaires into millionaires seems like a hard way to stay alive.
They took thousands from my friends
I played on Full Tilt and liked it, but I'm glad I never put money on it.
I built a $2K bankroll from winning the 500K entry play chip tourney for $5 real dollars 2 nights in a row, which they subsequently took back from me. I used to love doing railbird trivia. JRB was probably my favorite pro to chat with, he's a freakin' trip.
I was borrowing player funds to buy personal assets. What’s the big deal? We were acting like banks do.
God damn you Howard!
@@PokerBoomYTA real piece of Scata’. To show you ghe Gaul of these guys,Chris Ferguson, after stealing 10’s of millions of dollars in players funds, has the balls to show his face at The WSOP tournaments. They most likely screwed over the kinds of people you shouldn’t screw with and I still think when the time is right they may suddenly disappear from planet earth under suspicious circumstances….maybe another hole in the Las Vegas desert. At least Lead-head has the sense to hide out eventhough he’s not smart enough to realize the woods of New Hampshire will not save him. They are going to come for you one day “professor”.
I thought the title was about Tomayo
He’s a cheater !
No one talks about Daniel Tzvetkoff roll is the down fall of fulltilt
All-The Poker Pros-Are Still-My Heroes!-Raymond "Mike" Hong!&(I've Learned-From Them-ALL!-Mike!)😎👍!!!!!!!!!
Hey Kyle! How are you doing?
Jamal! Great to hear from you! :)
At the beginning of this video, you highlighted Andy Bloch while referencing Rafe Furst. Apart from that, absolutely amazing video. Keep it up.
@@lucashipkinsTrue, that is Andy cock Bloch
I think the Tamayo scandal is bigger. The WSOP's inability to stop what was going on and enforce the rules they set themselves is gonna kill the game alltogether - live and online - if nothing happens.
It will only consist of GTO crypto bros who constantly check their phones because they're too afraid to make a mistake, if this shit continues on.
It’s only big to you because it happened last week but when the full tilt shutdown happened a lot of online players lost their money. That’s bigger then tamayos labtop sims problem just add a rule saying no labtop or sims on cell phones.
@@jerrycarino4478 I was around during Black Friday and yeah, it was big. But it didn't kill the live game, just online, which has been remedied since. But this GTO bullshit has the ability to kill it all. It's like a slow terminal cancer.
I was playing razz online and same dude razzed a Queen twice in 15 minutes and beat my 6 perfect and 6-5 in both hands, something that never happened to me once live in decades, but twice in 15 minutes, so I knew it was fixed and was done with it.
Yeah even Tom dwan stopped writing down notes at the table 😂
the third guy u circled was Andy Bloch! NOT RAFE Furst!! @2:32
10:34 the most insincere apology on the internet 😂
Money use in a business is only an issue if they are like a bank, with rules on what they can or cannot do. Or if they are unable to pay people their money when asked. The only reason they were unable to pay people is the Feds took their accounts.
I always think Chris Ferguson was treated somewhat unfairly. By all accounts he was responsible for the software and site integrity and there was never any issue with that. It was Howard Lederer who hired Ray Bitar as CEO and he allowed the finances to get completely out of control.
it was from how all 3 of those (not say ivey or the other well known pros associated with the site) him included got paid with other people's money, and this was done routinely. the money these 3 stole wasn't given back by them, pokerstars saved everybody from their theft. ferguson's payouts weren't as high as lederer/bitar, so not AS guility, but still guilty. this is contrary to ivey, dwan, others, who at least could believably claim to not be involved in it, and maybe believably not at all aware of it.
@@jasonbatteiger2421Lederer took $42 million out of the business in player funds. Never paid back. Chris is just an IT dork who made friends with the wrong folk.
42 million!!