MacPro 2012 FASTER than LATEST Intel MAC!!!

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  • @JessiesFlying
    @JessiesFlying  Год назад

    Join my Discord for Questions & Answers: discord.gg/rAhpJNqaKS

  • @AlexanderDiFiore
    @AlexanderDiFiore Год назад +12

    The 5,1 cMP that I am running is still, by far, one of the most powerful and fastest machines manufactured within the last decade. Thank you for the video.

  • @stelan77
    @stelan77 Год назад +12

    Because of my MacBook Air m1 I sold it last year. But I missed it so much that I bought it back a few a weeks ago. Feels so good to watch it on my desk. Even I don't use it too much. Its glorious machine. I believe someday its gonna be such classic as the iPhone 2g. And by the way, its still usable and power nowadays even its 13 years old. 2 xeons 6core cpu, rx580, m2 name and 64 gb... ram... man runs like an 70s Ferrari. Not modern stuff but its still power for its age

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      Absolutely!

    • @i4mboyc
      @i4mboyc Год назад +1

      Definitely. It’s absolutely gorgeous!!

  • @ProductivePM
    @ProductivePM Год назад +13

    Jessie, you are my hero. Because of you, I was able to properly upgrade my Mac Pro 2009 to Monterey. My CPU upgrade comes tomorrow (2 Xeon 5690s with 128 GB of RAM). I currently have 1 2 TB NVME for my boot drive and a set of 8TB RAID drives and I have an RX580 for graphics. I will wait to get the "Green Light" from you to upgrade to Ventura. I live in Florida and it looks like you may be living there as well. If so Welcome to the Sunshine State and if not, Welcome to the US. All the best!

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I personally don't recommend Ventura for MacPro yet - even though you can install now USB1.1 and USB3.0 both with 0.6.5 (already working on a video). And you're wrong - I'm currently in Arizona near Phoenix 😉

    • @ProductivePM
      @ProductivePM Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying Congratulations, the Phoenix area is just beautiful. I was out there two weeks ago in Golden Valley, Arizona visiting my Dad. The desert is absolutely beautiful. Enjoy the scenery. Matter of fact my CPU upgrade was bought from an eBay seller in Phoenix. Wishing you the very Best!

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      @@ProductivePM Thx!

  • @armingeiss1281
    @armingeiss1281 Год назад +4

    Appreciate your videos and comparison work. Tanks a lot for this great overview. I am currently use a Macbook Pro 2015 15" running macOS Monterey and I am very happy with it.

  • @mhelmreich1
    @mhelmreich1 Год назад +2

    I am a Linux user, and I have four machines with x5690 xeons x 2.
    They are a couple of Dell T5500s, and a couple of Dell T7500s.
    I have one maxed put to 192GB of RAM, and of course you can use any GPU you like.
    I also have a Ryzen 9 5900x which has 12core 24 thread, it has 128GB of RAM.
    The Ryzen is maybe 2.5 times faster in CPU intensive workloads.
    It is hard to compare because certain tasks benefit from different talents of each processor design & features.
    I am quite a fan of the old Xeons though.
    They are good solid workers.

  • @filipr6070
    @filipr6070 3 месяца назад +1

    Another great video. Thank you very much, Jessie!👍

  • @stevem-h3562
    @stevem-h3562 8 месяцев назад +1

    Im still running mine, 2 x 2.93 Xeons, 120GB RAM, running Monterey through OCLP and running Cubase 11. Works for me very well.

  • @gosekinz
    @gosekinz Год назад +8

    Big fan of using an NvME drive on the cheese grater macs .. huge boost in disk performance - makes using them on even Ventura just fine

    • @ladeluff_
      @ladeluff_ Год назад +1

      indeed. they still fly ;) even with semi modern steam games

    • @ThePerfectSeason1972
      @ThePerfectSeason1972 Год назад

      I have around 8 cheese grater MacPros , is it worth trying to install? Thanks for another great video

    • @gosekinz
      @gosekinz Год назад

      @@ThePerfectSeason1972 NvME drives are pretty cheap - you don't need the latest fastest models anything that does 3500mbps will do fine - add a cheap adapter card - my Orico NvME M.2 Adapter cost around $15 USD so for under $100 USD you can go from SATA which are really slow to around 1250mbps which is pretty reasonable. Good Luck!

  • @fookoo567
    @fookoo567 Год назад +4

    Nice! I'm sticking with my blown-out 2012 Mac Pro w/oclp 0.6.5!!😃

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      And you can even use USB1.1 and USB3.0 together with OCLP 0.6.5 (already working on a video) 😉

  • @macgamer1973
    @macgamer1973 Год назад +3

    I safely upgrade my MacBook Pro 17” to Ventura without problems

  • @jroar123
    @jroar123 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have the same Mac Pro setup but with 64 gig RAM and I have the same graphics card. My machine is not as fast as the newest Mac Pro but there is one important difference. I paid about $400 in total to upgrade it. The difference in CPU power is not really an issue running games or doing work.

  • @andyhardwickmusiccomposer
    @andyhardwickmusiccomposer Год назад +1

    Brilliant stuff. Hope you are enjoying the US!

  • @joelhazard7947
    @joelhazard7947 Год назад +2

    Appreciate your content so much, thanks and welcome to the US!

  • @dmug
    @dmug Год назад +3

    My Mac Pro 2019 says otherwise but should be a fun video when it premieres.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      It’s not the LATEST Intel Mac 😉

    • @PvtAnonymous
      @PvtAnonymous Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying your MacBook Pro is still not the latest Intel Mac. That would be the iMac 20,1/20,2 with the Comet Lake i9 10910. And that one would most likely mop the floor with the older Mac Pros due to it's more liberal cooling approach compared to the 16". In fact, the whole premise of this video is kinda misleading.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      @@PvtAnonymous You're right - I thought the iMac was from March 2020 (but I confused it with the MacBook Air) - so the iMac is 6 weeks younger than my MacBook Pro (15th June vs. 4th August)...

  • @kcfooq
    @kcfooq Год назад +5

    I had similar experience day before yesterday installing monterey with opencore 0.6.4. Tried again used internal ssd as install disk (clean install) got black screen and got out to walk my GSD for an hour and a half and when I got back I was in Monterey. Messed up again using migration manager including system settings. Started over using as before and then carbon copy cloner 6 to get my data on monterey. After that you can adjust system settings and passwords. Hope this helps.

    • @jroar123
      @jroar123 Год назад +1

      Yes, that's what I thought. I'm also hearing that Monterey gets buggy the longer you use it. The good news is that my Mac Pro runs like lightening when rendering video. It saves me hours of wait-time. Obviously it has it's limitations but still, if you are needing something requiring lots of CPU, GPU, and RAM, it's an affordable way to go.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      Thx for the info

  • @ladeluff_
    @ladeluff_ Год назад +2

    Great results. It just proves the build quality Apple put into these classic servers.
    (One of) my main macs these days is nothing like the test object. I use a MSi armor RX 580.
    But it still flies on both Monterey and win 11 with NVMe PCIe SSD + 48GB ram and a 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon W3565 (Nehalem)
    I even regularly still use my mac pro 1.1 (2.1 firmware) every day for RUclips and steam games.
    upgraded w SSD from cruzer, 2 x 2,66 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5355 (Clovertown) 16GB RAM and not least:
    a beefy KFA2 GeForce GTX 980 TI 6GB Black edition (running on 2x mini 6 pin > 8 pin + 2x sata > 6 pin

  • @vb7200
    @vb7200 Год назад +1

    Welcome to the US! Love your videos, my 09 Mac Pro is probably going to be my main setup for at least a few years, I won't move to Apple Silicon until they're able to run Windows natively (which they very much are capable of but Apple needs to give their blessings) as I don't like using Parallels or a virtual machine. I was actually contemplating getting a 19 MBP to replace my mid 2015 dual graphics retina MBP, but why waste to money if I basically have one sitting on my desk already?

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      Absolutely - it's just not that easy to carry 😂

  • @Mbro-dq2do
    @Mbro-dq2do 3 месяца назад +1

    my 2012 15 inch macbook pro running sonoma via open core browses the internet as fast as my M1 Max thats maxed out. Almost I should say. Linux runs great on both

  • @Sgyozo
    @Sgyozo Год назад +2

    We could compare the prices too, Macbook pro + egpu + vega 56 is around 1300 eur, a 5,1 pimped up maybe 500. So, if someone don't need mobility, no question. But there is the 2019 Mac pro, how would that compare to these three? Okay, for 3000 eur, should be better for sure. :D
    Thanks for your videos, they are really helpful, i'm actually buying my first mac, a 5,1, it was good to know what to buy and what are my options. I've never been a mac guy, but i need it for some special hardware/software for Arri cameras. Maybe i'll start to like it. :D

  • @jlj945
    @jlj945 Год назад +3

    The 2012 will perform better if you don’t use all the RAM slots. If you have 32GBs, I’m thinking you’re only running in dual channel mode. Use 6 slots instead of all 8, and the memory performance will be better on the ol’ 4,1/5,1
    I have a 2012 MP on Ventura, and Windows 11. She’s my main rig.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      Thx for the info! I will check on that as soon as my MacPro arrives here in the USA

  • @0x0081
    @0x0081 Год назад +2

    I can’t believe Apple just trashed my 2017 5k 27” iMac, it will not get the Sonoma :(.

  • @jroar123
    @jroar123 Год назад +3

    I built a Mac Pro early 2009 flashed to 5,1 with dual I7 3.33, 48 gig ram, Asus 580 or is it 590 graphics card, 5T storage, 1T SSD card to run Mohave OS, Note: I have tried everything I can think of but cannot upgrade my OS from Mohave, should I even try and if so how, I am out of ideas.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      What’s the problem with updating?

    • @Locky2701
      @Locky2701 Год назад +2

      I have 2 Mac Pro 5.1 mid 2012,one is 12 core 2X3.46 and another one is a 6 core 3.46,the 12 core has 128 gigs of ram and the 6 core has 64 gigs.
      Thanks to the team OpenCore Legacy,both Mac Pro 5.1 are running macOS Monterey without issues,both have nvme in raid mode (OWC nvme bracket)
      For macOS Ventura,I do have a Mac Pro 7.1 2019 and it's running Ventura with ease since it supported by Apple

  • @samd3231
    @samd3231 Год назад +1

    As always a very interesting video and it also raises the question of planned obsolescence at Apple lol I have 2 small questions I have a MacBook Pro 3.1 on your advice I bought an RX 580 it is planned that I put an M2 disk IN PCIE ... I would like to know your opinion for a processor change Which processor model would you recommend for the Mac Pro 3.1? and what OS could be accepted with Open Core? I have a lot of questions but I leave you alone with your beautiful pool with palm trees;)
    Comme toujours une vidéo très intéressante et ça nous pose aussi la question de l'obsolescence programmée chez Apple lol j'ai 2 petites questions j'ai un MacBook Pro 3.1 sur tes conseils j'ai acheté une RX 580 il est prévu que je mette un disque M2 EN PCIE... j'aimerais connaître ton avis pour un changement de processeur quel modèle de processeur conseillerais tu pour le mac pro 3.1 ? et quel OS pourrait être accepté avec open core ? j'ai beaucoup de questions mais je te laisse tranquille avec ta superbe piscine avec des palmiers ;)

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      Check out everymac.com they have detailed CPU lists for your MacPro 👍

  • @christagchurchbelize9668
    @christagchurchbelize9668 2 месяца назад +1

    Awesome!

  • @lavinchi6709
    @lavinchi6709 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much👏👏👏👏👑very interesting test

  • @skyemac8
    @skyemac8 Год назад +4

    Well done comparison. The Mac Pro 5,1 is like an old VW Beetle: classic and runs forever.

  • @AlexandreLollini
    @AlexandreLollini Год назад +1

    Cheap thermal paste and Apple thermal paste dry up with time, so it need a clean up and re-apply : your trashcan looks a little low, I have both a 150w 8 cores E5-2687W V2 in a dual D500 (v5 mono 879 multi 6742 ) and also the same 12 cores in a dual D700 one (v5 mono 785 multi 7707 ) and both score higher in multicore. But after one year the multi score goes down, so I clean and re-apply. (I used Noctua paste for all and in PCs too). I am confident you have toasted thermal past on your trashcan. (both mine are 64gb ram tho) so I plan on re-apply every 2 years.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      Nope, as I changed the CPU 3 months ago….

    • @AlexandreLollini
      @AlexandreLollini Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying ok, so that could be the 64gb of ram that make mine faster ? or is it Mojave ? in any case a trashcan is still a nice upgrade from a mini quad, and is plenty for me. I am in full hesitation about updating the OS. I know what I will loose, (apps) but what gain ?? I'm eager to see your video on the ideal OS version for each model.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      @@AlexandreLollini Mojave is waaaaay faster than any macOS since Big Sur (as they started to support M1 chips) ☝️

    • @AlexandreLollini
      @AlexandreLollini Год назад +2

      @@JessiesFlying oh! this makes updating even harder ... ouch.

    • @antonionava2994
      @antonionava2994 Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying That would be an interesting video, it's hard to find accurate info for a comparison between OS on same hardware, regarding to both speed, open apps, overall stability, etc, at least for the 4 major shipped OS

  • @Mbro-dq2do
    @Mbro-dq2do 3 месяца назад +1

    open core works amazingly. Its flawless and very worth it Its free!!

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have aa a hackintosh laptop with the Vega 56 and the Ryzen 2700. My score in Heaven was 1,888, close to the 1,913 but not quite. That Mac pro still very usableOn Mojave OS

  • @smashgarage
    @smashgarage Год назад +1

    I believe the last Intel Mac was actually the 2020 MacBook Air with the i3/i5/i7 configuration.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      That's technically correct, but only i7 and therefor slower as the i9 here 👍

    • @smashgarage
      @smashgarage Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying Performance wise, yes. The 2020 MacBook Air does have a 10th gen i3/i5/i7 config, but they are lower wattage "u" chips, rather than the high TDP "h" chips in the i3/i5/i7/i9 lineup on the 2019 MacBook Pro 15".

  • @Doomface85
    @Doomface85 Год назад +1

    I used a Vega 56 in my 5,1 for about 3 years but I did have power issues without the pixlas mod. I have recently replaced it with a 5700XT and it is running MUCH better (Diablo IV 60fps high settings)

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      weird, as the Vega56 shouldn't draw too much power - maybe your PSU is getting weaker (older)?

    • @Doomface85
      @Doomface85 Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying It's possible however when I looked into it, the 56 can spike under heavy load which triggers the SMC

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      @@Doomface85 so the Pixlas Mod might be helpful...

    • @AndrewJohn311
      @AndrewJohn311 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah I went with the 5700 xt, it's the cheaper and faster card anyways.

  • @meetspeak7796
    @meetspeak7796 Год назад +1

    Jessie, is it possibile to use Garageband on these old machines? I have a MacBook Pro 2010 and I cannot run it.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      GarageBand needs Metal support, so either MacPro with upgraded graphics card or any Mac that can run Mojave natively

  • @macgamer1973
    @macgamer1973 Год назад +1

    I just brought “no man sky” for my Mac Pro 6,1 and Radeon Vega 56 ran smooth

  • @PatrickLipp
    @PatrickLipp Год назад +1

    Should have used a better gpu.. there’s others that don’t require additional power.. also should have specified the ram config as tripple channel will have best performance. I also would have used the power mods to your benefit as at this point it’s standard procedure to do so when you upgrade your gpu to a better variant..

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      You're right, but it wouldn't have changed the results at all....

  • @thomas0101
    @thomas0101 Год назад +1

    You say in the 2012 MacPro you used the SAPPHIRE AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB card but in the picture of the card you used you show the "Pulse" version of this card the: SAPPHIRE PULSE AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 8GB do both cards work equally well in the 2010-2012 MacPro models with no need to alter the power supply unit?

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      Yes, all Vega 56 work without power supply mod

  • @fescolfaro
    @fescolfaro Год назад +4

    This is irrelevant and a little ignorant, the problem isn't what's faster, but which processor has actual optimizations that programmers are building into their programs. So no matter how good it does in a benchmark, an M1 or 2 of any kind will definitely blow it out of the water in real world usage with programs not released in 2012.

    • @willm5032
      @willm5032 Год назад +1

      Came to say this. Benchmarks are fun but software devs are already leaving intel behind when developing for mac.
      Adobe especially.
      If having the latest software isn't a nessecity then you're all good. But for a work machine I've had to upgrade as my machine is now 2 years behind what I need in terms of software.
      PLUS security is a real thing- There's been a few major security updates on OSX recently and having to hack your machine with OCLP every time is a pain.
      I've been using a 3,1 for a few years because I got it cheap but I'm retiring it now to become a storage machine/I might part it out as I flashed the GPU. They're insane machines and the fact they even run OS software released Decades after the hardware is an amazing feat that won't probably ever be repeated but it's getting less and less viable to use them as anything more than enthusiast/project machines

  • @retrovox
    @retrovox Год назад +1

    Hi Jessie, may I know how to connect a 6-pin GPU into a 2012 Mac Pro please? Can I just use a mini 6-pin to 6-pin cable connecting to one of the mini 6-pin slot on the motherboard end? Or can I use a duo mini 6-pin to 8-pin cable while connecting to both mini 6-pin slots at the motherboard end and using only 6 pins on the GPU end?

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      I would prefer the second option to distribute the load to both connectors 👍

  • @ladeluff_
    @ladeluff_ Год назад +1

    as suspected jessie. btw. are you in florida or texas atm?

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      Neither or - it's Arizona (near Phoenix) 😁

  • @krutikquiran8184
    @krutikquiran8184 Год назад +1

    Hey Jessie when are you releasing your video for Ventura on 6,1 trash can Mac Pro? The latest patcher now fully supports everything on this

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      The problem is that my Trash Can is still sitting in Germany and then will be sitting in a container for 6 weeks to move over here... 😩

    • @krutikquiran8184
      @krutikquiran8184 Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying oh I know the pain, happy to help wherever possible if you want testing done. I’ve got a fully maxed out one

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      @@krutikquiran8184 So if you would test 13.4 with OCLP 0.6.5 on the MacPro6,1 you could give me feedback and at least I can do an informational video about it!

    • @krutikquiran8184
      @krutikquiran8184 Год назад

      @@JessiesFlying hi Jessie, I did a installation video of macOS Ventura on my main RUclips channel (TheMacintoshGuide) and will be doing a follow up video which will talk about performance of the machine. So far everything I have tested such as web browsing, development work with visual code, xcode, docker, jetbrainsand database apps all seem to be working normally. Stage manager is also seem to be quite stable and no issues on that. Performance seems to be exactly the same as Monterey

  • @idubzh243
    @idubzh243 Год назад +1

    Not to mention that the 5,1 has 4 expansions sata sleds (ssd/hdd) and PCi for usb 3,2 cards, thunderbolt, and nvme expansion board. The 5,1 is one of the best value for a computer till the computers exists. The only con, they are heavy and you will hate them the day you have to move from your home to another...

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      You’re absolutely right!

    • @LukeSchneiderEWI
      @LukeSchneiderEWI Год назад +1

      Can a pcie thunderbolt card work in a 5,1 ?

    • @idubzh243
      @idubzh243 Год назад +2

      @@LukeSchneiderEWI Theorically it could work, but from what I understand it's complicated... You can kill your computer for ever if you do something wrong... Read this comment on a site :
      "So although DSM2 appears to have released the keys to unlocking Thunderbolt 3 on older Mac Pro computers, the path to get to it is not an easy one to take."

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      @@LukeSchneiderEWI didn't try it yet....

  • @stansteez
    @stansteez Год назад +1

    Which version of macOS was used ffor this comparison. I hope it was the same for each machine. Why you didn't mention how the SMBIOS/board-id imposes a limit to the versions of macOS that can be installed natively on any of these machines (without using OpenCore) is a mystery to me.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      I tested a lot of Monterey and Ventura versions, didn’t make any (big) difference

  • @davidguijarro154
    @davidguijarro154 Год назад +1

    Thanks Jessie !!!

  • @gsayesh
    @gsayesh Год назад +1

    Thank you so much sir!

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora 8 месяцев назад +1

    What were the settings on the Heaven benchmarks?

  • @jimr6560
    @jimr6560 Год назад +1

    hey jessie are we good to update to latest Ventura under open core 0.6.5 or are we still waiting

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +2

      Already working on a video update - but you're good to go 😉

  • @dans.8198
    @dans.8198 Год назад +1

    Comparing against the Intel Mac Pro 2019 (tower) would have been more Apples to Apples.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      that's another financial league, don't you think?

    • @dans.8198
      @dans.8198 Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying Relatively speaking, yes, but used prices are quickly going down. A Mac Pro means first and foremost expandability and customizability (speed is a consequence). In that regard, even the new Apple Silicon Mac Pro is a big step backward compared to a x86 cheesegrater, let alone a laptop.

  • @ryanlowseck1164
    @ryanlowseck1164 Год назад +1

    There is no option price wise for MAC anymore, once the 2012 is over I am done with Apple.

  • @rileyhance318
    @rileyhance318 Год назад +1

    all 3 of these tested are basically obsolete now that a base m1 device is neck and neck with them.

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      Yes, but M1 doesn't run Windows nor eGPUs

    • @rileyhance318
      @rileyhance318 Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying you can run parallels for windows. For egpu you would need a high end card like a 6800xt to make it worth while over investing more into a higher gpu core count up front. Otherwise you should just build a windows pc if you want to liberate yourself from the shackles of apple

  • @sergeypuzanov2781
    @sergeypuzanov2781 Год назад +1

    there are bad MacPro tests results. three-channel RAM mode not used

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      Are you sure? I have to check that again… 🤔

    • @sergeypuzanov2781
      @sergeypuzanov2781 Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying i'm sure, did tests with my pro4.1 (firmware 5.1)

  • @jmz8086
    @jmz8086 3 месяца назад +1

    Repeat after me. Throttle, throttle, throttle.

  • @fookoo567
    @fookoo567 Год назад +1

    almost forgot - WELCOME TO THE USA JESSIE!!!

  • @Kivas_Fajo
    @Kivas_Fajo Год назад +1

    Only, if thrown from a skyscraper perhaps?

  • @darrenhankner5282
    @darrenhankner5282 Год назад +1

    wow. sun. palm trees. nice.

  • @goobfilmcast4239
    @goobfilmcast4239 Год назад +1

    ....great but so is my 2020 base M1 Mini 🥴

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      Nah, I didn’t compare Intel to apple silicon on purpose 😈

    • @Tvj_films8452
      @Tvj_films8452 Год назад +1

      Yupppp… I’m so glad i sold my 2012 Mac Pro and got a m1 Mac mini. Big difference. I don’t miss that big tank size computer.

  • @egnerozo1160
    @egnerozo1160 Год назад +1

    Power consumption… That is the point…

  • @MrTare071
    @MrTare071 Год назад +1

    You guys are talking about everything yet missing important thing.... Mac pro 5.1 is awesome fast machine with PSU which uses over 1kw/h of power and those xeons are using over 100w while MBP M1 is doing that same powerlifting on 5w-20w...... Old mac pro is a power house but those things are relics of past and other than sentimental reasons those belong to museum

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад +1

      Basically you’re right, mine is using about 200W during regular use. But it’s throwing away a perfectly working machine a good thing to create more electronic waste?

  • @Ichijoe2112
    @Ichijoe2112 Год назад +1

    Ya know when I see Videos, like this one, a certain thought crosses my mind. Is this Cat trying to sell us something? Well if so great, but here's some arguments against it. One these Platforms are freaking Antiques from a bygone era. The fact that in an otherwise useless Benchmark session, he was able to demonstrate in that one lonely use example a tiny margin of 300-ish points, needs some real world clarification.
    One, He's comparing a Workstation/Server with a freaking Laptop, that's your 300pt advantage right there in the nutshell folks.
    Two Ya ever get the feeling hes not giving you the TCO Numbbers? 'Cause (at least for the cheesegrater I'm unsure about the Trashcan feel free to correct me), all the old Pros had 2x Xenons in them, as opposed to just the one Coffee Lake i9. Which strikes me as being better value if your actually going to use the thing.
    Third if your in need of a cheep Mac then why not checkout the newer M1 Macminis? Which are likely cheaper then a PS5 now?
    Im not saying to not pick one of these up, but for the money some of these are asking for in the neighbourhood of 1500$ or more. Me thinks ya gotta have a screw loose. For 150$/175$ sure. But, not much more.

    • @empedance1933
      @empedance1933 Год назад +1

      I agree, best bet is buying these for extremely cheap from schools and businesses as so many used them for workstations for various purposes.

    • @Ichijoe2112
      @Ichijoe2112 Год назад

      @@empedance1933 Again I have no problems with cheap, but 600$ for a single socket, and well north of a grand for the dual socket. Is just not worth it.

  • @jonathangolgota
    @jonathangolgota Год назад +1

    nah, im sold my macbook and buy pc intel 13 + rtx = performance much better

    • @JessiesFlying
      @JessiesFlying  Год назад

      But that’s a little as comparing apples and pears….

    • @jonathangolgota
      @jonathangolgota Год назад +1

      @@JessiesFlying yeah i already try both system, 4 my workflow, still prefer intel win nvidia system

  • @tkelong3569
    @tkelong3569 Год назад +1

    Cap.