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Keeping with Montech you should probably test the 64$ "Montech XR" Fish tank case which is one of the least expensive glass front panel cases out there.
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I just built my PC with a red King 95 pro + 2 140mm exhaust fans on top to help the air cooler, and the experience was fantastic! I had so much space to work on the parts, and due to it being dual chamber, cable management was amazing and easy! Really can't recommend enough!
Does adding (2) Exhaust fans cause your system to be Negative Pressure then? That's two intakes and 3 exhausts at that point? Unless the Power Supply fan balances it out as an additional intake? Is dust a concern at this point? Do you use a fan controller to balance the fan speeds so the Intakes run faster than the Exhausts so the airflow is more balanced?
I built my first PC a bit ago with the 95 pro as well. I really like it. There is plenty of room and looks good. Plus, I'm glad I got one that's duel chamber. That way, I didn't have to mess with organizing cables much 😂
theres so many dual chamber cases now that imo its just better to go with one that doesn't cheap out in so many areas like montech, unless going budget was the primary focus, which in that case they are a good choice. if someone is just looking at all dual chambers and trying to decide what to pick, lian li 011 and antec c8 are some of the top performers.
For what it's worth. I just completed a build for my wife with the King 95 Pro, and I have to say that it was a joy to build in. Probably some of the best cable management that I have ever done with how it is setup. There is lots of space to play in, and possibly return to with upgrades in the future. After watching this I am glad she decided on the King 95 because, at least to me, the fact it was able to keep better temps WITH the glass panel on the front means it should get even better when swapped to the mesh and with more fans. Design looks good too. Certainly I would say you could probably get more bang for your buck, but I am happy with this one.
Oh actually as shown in the video with the same fan configuration the temps are almost identical. The main reason 65 is underperforming is that it only comes with 3 fans. But yes if you actually care about airflow 95 is the go to, since it comes with mesh front and 6 fans.
I found that on the King 95 non-pro, I experienced better performance after removing the back fan and relocating it to the top. Additionally, taking out the swing fan holder and remounting the side fans on the other side panel also improved performance. I really like this case; it's a pleasure to work with. One thing that none of the reviewers, including you, mentioned, is the silicon port dust covers. Also, the swing-out fan mount can be easily removed by pulling up, and the swing-out side fan/drive/cable door is removable by pulling down and out. It's an excellent case for installing a custom loop. The quality for the price and all the little inclusions brought me so much joy. I still remember when a sub $100 case was a health hazard, cutting you with all the sharp edges.
First ever time built my own PC and I went with the Blue King 95 Pro with stock fans and 360 radiator AIO for the 7800x3d . Messed up with my powersupply size and was forced to remove the inner panel for hiding cables and I think it helped with thermals a bit, though I did also vertically mount my 7900 XT and I'm not sure how that affects thermals 🧐 I really appreciate y'all doing these vids. Honestly I must've watched and re-watched 20+ of your videos on cases, CPUs and GPUs before making my purchases.
20 years ago I had a lian li aluminium PC case. Where the entire outer casing and inner metal structure were all made out of aluminium. It was really light compared to other ordinary steel PC cases at that time. I really loved the case, since I spent a good $200+ on it. Where a normal case would cost less than $100. Eventually the trend of pure aluminum cases went away due to high material costs, and that steel cases with tempered glass and nice fishtank designs were selling well even though its priced even higher than the pure aluminium ones. So companies like Lian Li pivoted towards that since its lower costs and higher profit margins.......
Hearting to boost visibility! Definitely very interested. Just bought one. I'm not sure how interested the community is yet -- feedback here would be great. But it has some unique features.
I have an Enthoo Pro 2 and have no interest in buying a different case. However, I love watching you guys review cases. I'm always up to watch any case review y'all do.
The King 95 is what made me build a new PC. I knew I needed a new PC, but seeing that case really sealed the deal on upgrading. I love the look of it in all white, and it was very easy to build in and gets great airflow. Plus I got it on sale around the time of release, making it even better. The 011 and other similar cases do look nice, but a dual chamber case with 6 fans for $120 cant be beat.
Just an odd note for Montech, if they are reading comments, regarding the cable cover door that Steve points to; Instead of punching holes to offset the loss of airflow in order to maintain the structural integrity of the door hinge area (Which is what I assume is going on there) why not simply roll the metal on the hinge side? You could reduce the overlap between the door and the intake fans to almost nothing, while reducing the risk of the door flexing and bending when opened. Rolling it to the inside of the case would keep things looking neat, reduce weight, and most importantly you could remove the need for all those airflow hole, which would likely save a lot on tooling costs. Overall a very nice looking case, particularly for a newer company.
I bought a full size torrent based on your videos and I have not regretted it for a second and it clearly continues to be a performance monster where air is concerned.
A shame that it either runs hot or runs loud. Color me surprised when it started off as a chart-bottomer but also kinda impressed in a weird way when you normalized the fans and it shot up to match the squircular King 95. They managed to carry the paneling issue that obstructs airflow to both cases. I guess if you really like the look..?
I use an AIO in mine and the bottom intake fans force a lot of air into the GPU, no problems with thermals at all on my King 95. If using an air cooler though I would think having the side fans facing the front would be a must to supply cool air for the CPU cooler.
They do make a lot of products, but aren't very well known. Cases and PSUs are the things Im aware of, but Im sure there is more. From what I have saw their build quality is top notch and their pricing is great.
Love the banter in the videos. ATX cases like this is a bit too big for my room/desk. mATX around 20-25L is a happy medium. Only weakness most cases in that size have is lack of space/rails for cable management.
I built a PC in the King 95 Pro, it is a huge PC case. Way bigger than what I thought when buying it. Makes it easy to build in and helps with airflow, but takes up a tremendous amount of space. Anyone looking at one should keep this in mind, it is a very large PC case. The cable management in it isnt even a problem though, plenty of room even if using a non modular PSU.
i got the montech 95 pro when it released. its a nice sturdy case. had a 20 pound ceramic tile smack the glass and while it was on the case and it survived. left a good gouge in it. but it didnt shatter. Recently upgraded my whole build pretty much but kept the case. thermals are really good for me.
The rounded edge is a big selling point. Though the glass is a bit distorted where the glass is rounded, its hard to notice if you aren't looking for it.
I agree but i think the dark glass cube king 65 looks much better then the rounded 95 with screaming colors. With a extra square front mesh plate it would be the perfect case for me.
Sometimes I wish my old Cooler Master H500 Mesh still made its way up on the benchmark charts, I remember buying it based on GN's review and how it was one of the original "airflow king" cases. I've considered sidegrading to a smaller case for ease-of-cleaning and whatnot, but I'm not really sure if it'd even be worth it...
Y’all should cut out that section that’s blocking 40mm of the 140mm fans and retest temps and show us what effect it has on temps. I’m liking that blue King 95 pro case. Blue is my favorite color.
Another great review, thanks Steve. I am really keen to see a review of the Cougar Airface Eco RGB and get a comparison to the 207, hopefully thats something you have planned!
this case looks like what Antec done with the C5 vs the C8, dimensions and support wise they're almost the same but I like the fan guide more plus the option to go bigger in future builds. Love the video, since it's like a bundled review of 2 cases. Thanks Steve and team.
Your comment about fans and how they affect case price was a funny thing but also relevant. It's tricky because you can't always tell if you will like fans until you actually have them. I bought a Lian Li Lancool II case and it came with fans. Which is great. But they made a horrible droning noise, which is NOT great. I had to replace them because I couldn't stand the noise they made. I replaced them with different Lian Li fans, and the replacement fans don't make horrible droning noises, despite both being Lian Li. So the case cost me more after having to add fans, and now I also have extra fans I have no use for nor desire to use. I don't know how to avoid this type of fan lottery without being able to actually experience fans in operation before buying them.
I just gotta say for the Noctua fans: They're 100% justified in SFF. when your case only has 3 fans and your entire build is thermally constrained, having the best static pressure and airflow is a world of difference. in my case I have a 4080 and a Ryzen 8700x on a single 280mm rad open loop, with a 120 supplying the PSU and VRM cooling. going from Corsair Maglev fans to a pair of Noctua IPPC 3000 fans dropped my water temps by 5c idle at the same fan RPM and perceived volume (30-25c @ 20cA), and massively dropped the high end temp down from 50c to being able to keep it at 35-40c depending on fan speed. It was a very noticeable reduction.
Thanks GN for always professionally reviewing cases as well and not just hardware💯 Could you please review the new Jonsbo z20 mATX case? I'm unsure if it's a good case. Thank u guys
I picked up a Be Quiet! Shadow Base 800 for $89 on Amazon. It came with 3 Pure Wings 3 140mm PWM fans. I picked up another Pure Wings 3 140mm fan for $10, so for $100, it was a hell of a deal for a near full tower with 4 140mm fans. It's also probably the best case I've ever purchased, especially considering the price/build quality.
I would love you see you take some metal snips/dremel/whatever to those fan obstructions and then measure again to see just how much they are impacting performance for if they went back and removed them.
Yes the squircle is a very specific shape, and honestly I was thinking about buying an Android phone then I saw the squircular shape that apple promotes on so many things and knew that squircles are the future.
the King 95 is an extremely well built case for its price range, more well built than almost any other cases that I've used in that price range and they are also often on sale, more so at microcenter for certain colors just depending on the day you go. In my opinion its one of the best price/quality ratios that ive ever seen on a case, esp for the fish tank design
Not sure if it was mentioned or I missed it, but the King 95/95 Pro includes an alternative mesh front panel which makes the switchable side/front fan mount actually useful.
17:22 I don't know if there is a comment about it but I believe there's rubber dampeners for the HDDs to be used in the sleds included in the box of screws, standoffs, cable ties and other extra bits. I just built with the King 95, still need to stress test it with the glass panel configuration to see how the thermals are for me.
The lesson I draw is for those who (like me) enjoy building in the Montech King 95, go ahead and buy a 65 and then install fans on the bottom. That largely makes it a 95. I just checked yesterday, and the 95 is getting hard to find.
I am ordering the King 95 Ultra and plan to get rid of that back door/inner panel when I build in it. I am leave the fans on the back wall and don’t see a need for that other panel in my case. If I was going to swing the fans to the front and add more then I can see needing it.
Having built in the King 95 a couple times now. I can say it's definitely a $90 case at best. Design wise, it looks really nice. It has a lot of weird quirks, particularly with fan mounting, and some QC issues, screw threads non existent for panels that are supposed to be screwed in so I had to tap the threads myself, that have been present in both models. The plastic panel on the front is super cheap feeling and looking too. When you compare it to the Antec C8, any of Lian Li's O11 models, or other cheap dual chamber designs, it's really only worth it if you plan on buying the King 95 at $90 and then adding inexpensive fans like the Thermalright TL-C12 or the Arctic P12. It's clear they didn't want to compete with the bigger players so they cut a lot of corners to underprice them but they aren't exactly offering any better value, just a lower entry price. This is even more true with the sales that happen more regularly on Lian Li, Antec, Corsair, and NZXT models. I really wish they had polished it up, swapped the front panel to steel, and charged $20 more or so. It's a good case, just don't think it's some crazy deal or punching way above it's weight class. The King 65 looks like it's not noticeably better than all the other $60 knockoffs on amazon yet costs almost twice as much.
From the cases ive used, i found the 95 runs far cooler than traditional designs. By running a 280 AIO in the side (push-pull), intake fans in the bottom, extract top and back, my GPU and CPU runs a lot cooler AND quieter than even an extreme custom loop setup i had in a phanteks case. So i do think there are ifs and buts to this. I get why Steve takes the approach he does - you literally cant create a fair comparison or have the time to test everything. But the layout of these, in my opinion does give the user the potential for huge thermal improvements over a normal case which is pointed out here. Great review tho and as ever entertaining with the super nerdy humor :)
Would love to see one of the many Sama cases reviewed as they seem to provide value and spam case after case, much like Thermalright does for air coolers.
Maybe it's time to upgrade. I've been in a montech mesh air or something like that. It's been discontinued for years now. My 6900xt literally touches both ends of the case lol. I had to put it in at an angle and fight to get it socketed. But they're great cases for the price.
20:13 small little glimpse, but I assume that this may have been an editing error. It looks like the 95 Pro’s temps were going to be highlighted and addressed, but got cut off.
I feel like that bent metal piece on the front glass may have been intended to allow the side panel to slide in easier because they had originally intended to use a Hinged Panel... and they just never removed it.
It's hard to compete value-for-performance wise with a fanless case (assuming they price it well) and a 5-pack of arctic p12s. Those are just so much better than most case fans and still quite affordable per unit
There's been a lot of these dual chamber fishtank style cases especially in 2024 I think. A sort of meta-review of putting them head-to-head in terms of thermals, noise and build quality would be interesting I think. Who wins best in class fishtank?
hi steve you mentioned different alternativ cases but what about the montech xr ? in my regions it only cost around 65€ also comes with 3 fans and while not the same design as the 65 pro it seams more of a hybrid of the lian li lancool 207 and the montech king 65 pro while beeing a lot cheaper. i just wanne know what you think about this case. but nvm still great content as always👍thanks steve
With a few hours work with a Dremel I think the airflow could be greatly improved, I just think they need to study some of the competitions cases to avoid choking the fans
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Keeping with Montech you should probably test the 64$ "Montech XR" Fish tank case which is one of the least expensive glass front panel cases out there.
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Please review Bequite Light Base 900 its a unique case should be interesting. I dont see any Be Quite cases in your list.
Thanks, Squircle. I mean Steve.
Steve not using the GN tool kit? Naughty Naughty:)
the fact that the patent office even allows a shape to be trademarked, is why we can't have nice things
wait until you find out about the companies out there that maliciously patent hundreds of items a day in hopes to sell that patent in the future.
You can patent the idea of how code is written (not the actual implementation, just the idea). At least a shape is something you can sell.
Hi, i have seen companies patent living things like fungus used in agriculture as insecticide, like metarhizium.
Nintendo is knocking
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I just built my PC with a red King 95 pro + 2 140mm exhaust fans on top to help the air cooler, and the experience was fantastic! I had so much space to work on the parts, and due to it being dual chamber, cable management was amazing and easy!
Really can't recommend enough!
The 95 is good! Grats on your first build!
My favorite Montech’s case is Air 903. Great airflow and great build quality.
Does adding (2) Exhaust fans cause your system to be Negative Pressure then? That's two intakes and 3 exhausts at that point? Unless the Power Supply fan balances it out as an additional intake?
Is dust a concern at this point?
Do you use a fan controller to balance the fan speeds so the Intakes run faster than the Exhausts so the airflow is more balanced?
I built my first PC a bit ago with the 95 pro as well.
I really like it. There is plenty of room and looks good. Plus, I'm glad I got one that's duel chamber. That way, I didn't have to mess with organizing cables much 😂
theres so many dual chamber cases now that imo its just better to go with one that doesn't cheap out in so many areas like montech, unless going budget was the primary focus, which in that case they are a good choice. if someone is just looking at all dual chambers and trying to decide what to pick, lian li 011 and antec c8 are some of the top performers.
New challenge. Take a shot every time Steve says squircle
Edit: total times including squircular and squircularity are 13.
RIP
Sir. It is 10 AM.
@@4tr0phy Its 5'clock somewhere.
@@4tr0phy no time like the present😂
@@4tr0phy That's a lot of hours in the day missed already.
You can patent that screw drive shape as Squircletangle
Squirtangle!
@@kopazwashere That is smut.
@@Hostilenemy squirctangle
@kopazwashere If the squirt angle is 90 degrees, it's the right angle.
For what it's worth.
I just completed a build for my wife with the King 95 Pro, and I have to say that it was a joy to build in. Probably some of the best cable management that I have ever done with how it is setup. There is lots of space to play in, and possibly return to with upgrades in the future. After watching this I am glad she decided on the King 95 because, at least to me, the fact it was able to keep better temps WITH the glass panel on the front means it should get even better when swapped to the mesh and with more fans. Design looks good too.
Certainly I would say you could probably get more bang for your buck, but I am happy with this one.
i love mine. It looks and performs great.
Oh actually as shown in the video with the same fan configuration the temps are almost identical. The main reason 65 is underperforming is that it only comes with 3 fans.
But yes if you actually care about airflow 95 is the go to, since it comes with mesh front and 6 fans.
We'd like to see new charts comparing squircles, semi-squircles, squircazoids, and quintic superellipses. I'd love to see the FPS % increase/decrease.
All these reviews recently make it clear. Steve is on the CASE.
Thanks Steve!
@@jaylc Back to you Steve!
i hate you. take my like
Hopefully Montech keeps the quality up. Getting a consistently positive review from GN is a good sign of brand quality.
Well shit, I wrote this before getting to the thermal performance. I'm not a bot, I swear!
I found that on the King 95 non-pro, I experienced better performance after removing the back fan and relocating it to the top. Additionally, taking out the swing fan holder and remounting the side fans on the other side panel also improved performance. I really like this case; it's a pleasure to work with. One thing that none of the reviewers, including you, mentioned, is the silicon port dust covers. Also, the swing-out fan mount can be easily removed by pulling up, and the swing-out side fan/drive/cable door is removable by pulling down and out. It's an excellent case for installing a custom loop. The quality for the price and all the little inclusions brought me so much joy. I still remember when a sub $100 case was a health hazard, cutting you with all the sharp edges.
First ever time built my own PC and I went with the Blue King 95 Pro with stock fans and 360 radiator AIO for the 7800x3d . Messed up with my powersupply size and was forced to remove the inner panel for hiding cables and I think it helped with thermals a bit, though I did also vertically mount my 7900 XT and I'm not sure how that affects thermals 🧐
I really appreciate y'all doing these vids. Honestly I must've watched and re-watched 20+ of your videos on cases, CPUs and GPUs before making my purchases.
I really want to see a review of the be quiet! Light base series
it's crazy to see how far PC cases have come since they were originally mostly made out of plastic
Metal and then plastic and now back to metal!
But will they ever be beige again? 😞
They were originally made from metal.
20 years ago I had a lian li aluminium PC case. Where the entire outer casing and inner metal structure were all made out of aluminium. It was really light compared to other ordinary steel PC cases at that time.
I really loved the case, since I spent a good $200+ on it. Where a normal case would cost less than $100.
Eventually the trend of pure aluminum cases went away due to high material costs, and that steel cases with tempered glass and nice fishtank designs were selling well even though its priced even higher than the pure aluminium ones.
So companies like Lian Li pivoted towards that since its lower costs and higher profit margins.......
Beige metal has entered the chat
I got the King 95 a week ago, it was super fun and nice to build in, the build quality was pretty good too.
Any chance of reviewing BQ light base 600?
Hearting to boost visibility! Definitely very interested. Just bought one. I'm not sure how interested the community is yet -- feedback here would be great. But it has some unique features.
@@GamersNexus Im interested in the be quiet light base 900
@@GamersNexus Yes, please, thanks Steve.
@@GamersNexus Definitely interested in the light base series, leaning towards the 900.
I have an Enthoo Pro 2 and have no interest in buying a different case. However, I love watching you guys review cases. I'm always up to watch any case review y'all do.
Speaking of "bring your own fan" options, a one off video comparing a whole bunch of fans for performance, noise etc would be really good imo.
I have the K95 and I'm very happy with it.
King 95 is really a great case.
Same here. I bought it after their review of it, and it is an amazing case for my first build.
The 95 is pretty damn good for the price!
The King 95 is what made me build a new PC. I knew I needed a new PC, but seeing that case really sealed the deal on upgrading. I love the look of it in all white, and it was very easy to build in and gets great airflow. Plus I got it on sale around the time of release, making it even better. The 011 and other similar cases do look nice, but a dual chamber case with 6 fans for $120 cant be beat.
Just an odd note for Montech, if they are reading comments, regarding the cable cover door that Steve points to; Instead of punching holes to offset the loss of airflow in order to maintain the structural integrity of the door hinge area (Which is what I assume is going on there) why not simply roll the metal on the hinge side? You could reduce the overlap between the door and the intake fans to almost nothing, while reducing the risk of the door flexing and bending when opened. Rolling it to the inside of the case would keep things looking neat, reduce weight, and most importantly you could remove the need for all those airflow hole, which would likely save a lot on tooling costs. Overall a very nice looking case, particularly for a newer company.
I bought a full size torrent based on your videos and I have not regretted it for a second and it clearly continues to be a performance monster where air is concerned.
7:35 that would be a Twirtle, a twirking triangle circle.
A shame that it either runs hot or runs loud. Color me surprised when it started off as a chart-bottomer but also kinda impressed in a weird way when you normalized the fans and it shot up to match the squircular King 95. They managed to carry the paneling issue that obstructs airflow to both cases. I guess if you really like the look..?
I use an AIO in mine and the bottom intake fans force a lot of air into the GPU, no problems with thermals at all on my King 95. If using an air cooler though I would think having the side fans facing the front would be a must to supply cool air for the CPU cooler.
@@stephenhood2948yeah, I figured you could brute force the thermals with a case like this, I had to do the same with my friend’s Antec P120
I'd never even heard about Montech before this video, these seem like really good cases for the price with a lot of thoughtful features.
They do make a lot of products, but aren't very well known. Cases and PSUs are the things Im aware of, but Im sure there is more. From what I have saw their build quality is top notch and their pricing is great.
Love the banter in the videos.
ATX cases like this is a bit too big for my room/desk. mATX around 20-25L is a happy medium. Only weakness most cases in that size have is lack of space/rails for cable management.
I built a PC in the King 95 Pro, it is a huge PC case. Way bigger than what I thought when buying it. Makes it easy to build in and helps with airflow, but takes up a tremendous amount of space. Anyone looking at one should keep this in mind, it is a very large PC case. The cable management in it isnt even a problem though, plenty of room even if using a non modular PSU.
I'm looking at a new case in the 16-20L range lol.
Ryzen 5700 and RTX 4060LP should be fine in that size anyway.
i have the 95 pro showed there but in white, 10/10 case, amazing quality, totally recommend in case anyone is thinking about it.
i got the montech 95 pro when it released. its a nice sturdy case. had a 20 pound ceramic tile smack the glass and while it was on the case and it survived. left a good gouge in it. but it didnt shatter. Recently upgraded my whole build pretty much but kept the case. thermals are really good for me.
So awesome pumping case reviews while I’m looking to upgrade
Was just checking your channel and saw you uploaded. The K65 looks pretty great so I may get that!
I cant see a reason to get the K65 over the K95 personally.The additional touches on the 95/Pro just seem a bit better.
Agreed!
The rounded edge is a big selling point. Though the glass is a bit distorted where the glass is rounded, its hard to notice if you aren't looking for it.
I agree but i think the dark glass cube king 65 looks much better then the rounded 95 with screaming colors. With a extra square front mesh plate it would be the perfect case for me.
Sometimes I wish my old Cooler Master H500 Mesh still made its way up on the benchmark charts, I remember buying it based on GN's review and how it was one of the original "airflow king" cases. I've considered sidegrading to a smaller case for ease-of-cleaning and whatnot, but I'm not really sure if it'd even be worth it...
Have the case as well in my current build, has been rock solid over the years. But next case will be a Antec Flux, if it performs as good as the Pro.
Y’all should cut out that section that’s blocking 40mm of the 140mm fans and retest temps and show us what effect it has on temps.
I’m liking that blue King 95 pro case. Blue is my favorite color.
Another great review, thanks Steve. I am really keen to see a review of the Cougar Airface Eco RGB and get a comparison to the 207, hopefully thats something you have planned!
Montech has always been a dark horse in the market.
God damn, every time Steve said "squarcle" I was laughing so hard after some point. Kudos
I also recently switched to a King 95, but I reused my 4 coolermaster fans, and added a liquidfreeze ii. I love the case!
this case looks like what Antec done with the C5 vs the C8, dimensions and support wise they're almost the same but I like the fan guide more plus the option to go bigger in future builds. Love the video, since it's like a bundled review of 2 cases. Thanks Steve and team.
Just still so happy for over 4 years with CM H500, no reason to change at all,,, perfect from day one, a lot of gaming with
Loving all of the recent case reviews!
Been waiting for this one. Made my day.
The GN boys have been having more fun in their videos/writer's room, and it shows.
Your comment about fans and how they affect case price was a funny thing but also relevant. It's tricky because you can't always tell if you will like fans until you actually have them. I bought a Lian Li Lancool II case and it came with fans. Which is great. But they made a horrible droning noise, which is NOT great. I had to replace them because I couldn't stand the noise they made. I replaced them with different Lian Li fans, and the replacement fans don't make horrible droning noises, despite both being Lian Li. So the case cost me more after having to add fans, and now I also have extra fans I have no use for nor desire to use. I don't know how to avoid this type of fan lottery without being able to actually experience fans in operation before buying them.
I love the your LOTR look along with your knowledge of PC hardware.
All that is left to do now is wait until he sees the 5090 price so that his beard and hair becomes white
I don't care for the weird side intake style cases, but I appreciate the review.
got my friend the king 95 pro and honestly its been very nice. he didnt even want the fishtank style case till i suggested that one
I could not guess that this morning I would both learn of the word squircle and also to hear it so many times in a row.
15:31 is that a Squircular fan from montech?
I love love love the king 95 pro blue!!!
Just build a Sonic themed PC in a blue King 95 Pro, love the case, couldn't be happier
I just gotta say for the Noctua fans: They're 100% justified in SFF.
when your case only has 3 fans and your entire build is thermally constrained, having the best static pressure and airflow is a world of difference.
in my case I have a 4080 and a Ryzen 8700x on a single 280mm rad open loop, with a 120 supplying the PSU and VRM cooling.
going from Corsair Maglev fans to a pair of Noctua IPPC 3000 fans dropped my water temps by 5c idle at the same fan RPM and perceived volume (30-25c @ 20cA), and massively dropped the high end temp down from 50c to being able to keep it at 35-40c depending on fan speed. It was a very noticeable reduction.
iPPC 3000s are probably the best fan you can get short of high-power (and high-noise!) server grade fans.
2 for 1 review thanks Steve
Thanks GN for always professionally reviewing cases as well and not just hardware💯
Could you please review the new Jonsbo z20 mATX case? I'm unsure if it's a good case.
Thank u guys
I love the 207, and I’ve already bought one!
I know it's old now. But I wish you would review some of the "new" Nzxt cases. H6, H7, H5.
Spending way too much of the review doing asides to squircle jokes aside, really good review. Thank you for your efforts.
I picked up a Be Quiet! Shadow Base 800 for $89 on Amazon. It came with 3 Pure Wings 3 140mm PWM fans. I picked up another Pure Wings 3 140mm fan for $10, so for $100, it was a hell of a deal for a near full tower with 4 140mm fans. It's also probably the best case I've ever purchased, especially considering the price/build quality.
I would love you see you take some metal snips/dremel/whatever to those fan obstructions and then measure again to see just how much they are impacting performance for if they went back and removed them.
From the thumbnail i thought sweet, finally a case with coloured glass
Montech king 95 pro represent! 🙋🏾♂️💯
the Squircle hilarity is next level
excited for the semi-squarecular aka squarekizoidal coasters
I love you guys calling out Apple for patenting a shape that has no unique features and the Patent Office for approving such a patent.
2:33 cant help but see a brita filter for the white king 95
WAIT APPLE HAVE PATENDED ROUNDED EDGES? HOW THE HELL?
No, there is a difference between rounded edges and (quintic) superellipses.
Yes the squircle is a very specific shape, and honestly I was thinking about buying an Android phone then I saw the squircular shape that apple promotes on so many things and knew that squircles are the future.
@@DOPES4MAGAlmao you are insane
Money
Patents have truly become a blight on innovation
Thanks Steve
the King 95 is an extremely well built case for its price range, more well built than almost any other cases that I've used in that price range and they are also often on sale, more so at microcenter for certain colors just depending on the day you go. In my opinion its one of the best price/quality ratios that ive ever seen on a case, esp for the fish tank design
Not sure if it was mentioned or I missed it, but the King 95/95 Pro includes an alternative mesh front panel which makes the switchable side/front fan mount actually useful.
17:22 I don't know if there is a comment about it but I believe there's rubber dampeners for the HDDs to be used in the sleds included in the box of screws, standoffs, cable ties and other extra bits. I just built with the King 95, still need to stress test it with the glass panel configuration to see how the thermals are for me.
"Squircle" is my new favourite portmanteau.
You make me so nervous linusing those parts around. Thanks Steve.
Thanks Steve for the definition of squircle
Great Review as always !! Any plans to review or add the Phanteks NV7/9 to results ?
The lesson I draw is for those who (like me) enjoy building in the Montech King 95, go ahead and buy a 65 and then install fans on the bottom. That largely makes it a 95. I just checked yesterday, and the 95 is getting hard to find.
i have the p600 phanteks and when i saw this i decided to upgrade the whole pc with it .. everyone is praising it
insightful & commendable test procedure. thanks steve
I am ordering the King 95 Ultra and plan to get rid of that back door/inner panel when I build in it. I am leave the fans on the back wall and don’t see a need for that other panel in my case. If I was going to swing the fans to the front and add more then I can see needing it.
Hair looking great today
Having built in the King 95 a couple times now. I can say it's definitely a $90 case at best. Design wise, it looks really nice. It has a lot of weird quirks, particularly with fan mounting, and some QC issues, screw threads non existent for panels that are supposed to be screwed in so I had to tap the threads myself, that have been present in both models. The plastic panel on the front is super cheap feeling and looking too. When you compare it to the Antec C8, any of Lian Li's O11 models, or other cheap dual chamber designs, it's really only worth it if you plan on buying the King 95 at $90 and then adding inexpensive fans like the Thermalright TL-C12 or the Arctic P12. It's clear they didn't want to compete with the bigger players so they cut a lot of corners to underprice them but they aren't exactly offering any better value, just a lower entry price. This is even more true with the sales that happen more regularly on Lian Li, Antec, Corsair, and NZXT models. I really wish they had polished it up, swapped the front panel to steel, and charged $20 more or so. It's a good case, just don't think it's some crazy deal or punching way above it's weight class. The King 65 looks like it's not noticeably better than all the other $60 knockoffs on amazon yet costs almost twice as much.
From the cases ive used, i found the 95 runs far cooler than traditional designs. By running a 280 AIO in the side (push-pull), intake fans in the bottom, extract top and back, my GPU and CPU runs a lot cooler AND quieter than even an extreme custom loop setup i had in a phanteks case. So i do think there are ifs and buts to this. I get why Steve takes the approach he does - you literally cant create a fair comparison or have the time to test everything. But the layout of these, in my opinion does give the user the potential for huge thermal improvements over a normal case which is pointed out here. Great review tho and as ever entertaining with the super nerdy humor :)
Phanteks is so underrated. That Pro ultra is my favorite case all time
Would love to see one of the many Sama cases reviewed as they seem to provide value and spam case after case, much like Thermalright does for air coolers.
Really want to see the Montech XR.
It's a 50 buck fish tank, with 3 ARGB fans.
Decent additional fan support too.
It's okay Lian Li, I droop too. It happens when a brand has been around that long.
The thing I'm learning about this case is that a lot of effort was made to avoid infringing on Apple's squircle.
Maybe it's time to upgrade. I've been in a montech mesh air or something like that. It's been discontinued for years now. My 6900xt literally touches both ends of the case lol. I had to put it in at an angle and fight to get it socketed. But they're great cases for the price.
20:13 small little glimpse, but I assume that this may have been an editing error. It looks like the 95 Pro’s temps were going to be highlighted and addressed, but got cut off.
Antec c5 include 7 fans and hub including reverse fans with low price. Review?
I hope so! I have one and no issues with it, but would love to hear from gn!
😂😂😂 I love the humor you add to your videos!!!
cool, now I'm reading about superellipses (Lamé curves).
I feel like that bent metal piece on the front glass may have been intended to allow the side panel to slide in easier because they had originally intended to use a Hinged Panel... and they just never removed it.
can not wait for king 65 pro air!
I appreciate that there are affordable, good cases out there. Now we need affordable GPUs.
I love how rough Steve is with them. When do you think you will add a drop test?
This channel is so damn helpful! You guys going to review the new H5 Flow?
It's hard to compete value-for-performance wise with a fanless case (assuming they price it well) and a 5-pack of arctic p12s. Those are just so much better than most case fans and still quite affordable per unit
There's been a lot of these dual chamber fishtank style cases especially in 2024 I think. A sort of meta-review of putting them head-to-head in terms of thermals, noise and build quality would be interesting I think. Who wins best in class fishtank?
love your content man
hi steve you mentioned different alternativ cases but what about the montech xr ? in my regions it only cost around 65€ also comes with 3 fans and while not the same design as the 65 pro it seams more of a hybrid of the lian li lancool 207 and the montech king 65 pro while beeing a lot cheaper. i just wanne know what you think about this case. but nvm still great content as always👍thanks steve
Love these reviews
Thanks Steve!
That little bent piece on the top might be intentional? A space to get the tip of your finger in to help remove the top of the case.
With a few hours work with a Dremel I think the airflow could be greatly improved, I just think they need to study some of the competitions cases to avoid choking the fans