@@thepotatoofheaven hence the whole "might" Its a very interesting theory im ngl Eclipsas dad being a ancestor to Marco and giving him loose ties to the mewmans Could also be used as the reason for Marcos family being chosen to take care of Star as some Mewmans ended up on earth so Moon and River just chose mewman descendants
@@nicture237 technically that passage is not talking about the generic word for God (Elohim), which can refer to any deity (even the pagan ones), nor is it talking about "Hashem" or "Adonai", which are replacements that the Hebrews used to avoid breaking this commandment. The name this commandment is talking about is the one specifically revealed to Moses (YHWH)
Furthermore, I think I might have to agree. But on the other hand, it's probably second to Star. She never learned magic without a wand, yet she undid what her daughter had done. Meteora could've chosen to fight her mother, but she was emotionally weak because she had some love for her mother.
@@_Dsasi_159 Id say raw power goes to Star while Technique goes to Eclipsa Tho Star does have acces to most of Eclipsas techniques while the reverse isnt true
From what I remember, Romulus does have his flaws but he's better than most of the council. He was the one who ended up saying the truth (out of fear that he'd die ofc but better than what the others were going to do) Eclipsa is also justified tho. All she's ever wanted is to have a peaceful life with her man and baby. Did she go about it the right way? No. But if I was the council, I'd try to keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend one of the most powerful people to have existed. If I remember correctly, the only one who rivals Eclipsa in creative power is Star...😅
what do you mean the right way...quite literally all she did was run away from the throne, I don't even know if she brought her wand with her when she did so so literally the council just decided to encase her in crystal, simply cause she gave up her duty of being queen to be in love with a monster
@@xxmension04xx47 Well based on other comments I've seen, it gives the impression that Eclipsa technically had the choice to divorce the guy she was previously with and THEN run away with her man. But I don't remember the exact details of how it works in the show 🤷🏻♀️
@jenmiranda13 well I mean technically Eclipsa is the ruler, the king doesn't really have much say since its the Butterfly family who is in control, but then the MHC is higher ranked for some reason
First off Eclipsa wanted to be happy. She was forced to marry that ass what ever guy because her Mother forced her too, and basically her Mother refused to Ever see anything that her Daughter saw. Eclipsa's marriage to Globgor would have easily brought peace and they could have worked on making the world a better place for all. She was never a bad Queen, it was what everyone made them think she was bad. One she picked to marry a Monster, who was respected by his kind, he was well intelligent. By calling her evil and bad your basically saying choosing happiness and sanity is wrong but living in hell is great.
How are her actions here justified? It genuinely feels like we're not supposed to root for her, but the crystal guy later is shown to be the one on the wrong?
They're both in the wrong and in the right. Long story short, she just wanted to be happy with her husband (guy crystalized) but the council didn't like that so they put him in crystalization and she was willing to commit evil acts so she could be with him again... That is, if I am recalling this correctly it has been a few years.
@@TheRoseReaperthe evil acts in question was fleeing with the guy she loved and their kid, eclipsa was always advertised as evil by the magic council because they didn't like her ideals of equality to monsters, and her having a baby with one of them didn't help the case, but thing is, eclipsa was never evil, she was just not conventionally good, and by that I mean, she can be sarcastic and make snark comments, and that's all
Its funny how the strongest of the butterfly "family" were the only ones who wanted peace with the monsters. The ones who wanted to fight team just stayed within the lines and strive for nothing better.
Ngl Eclipsa was done so dirty repeatedly in this show just for falling in love with someone she wasn’t supposed to. Like the magic commission was more evil than her or the father of her child, they literally tried to set him up to look like a villain the same moment they were bout to crown her as queen just so she’d look guilty.
Star was unbearable in the last season. Like what’s the point of giving up the crown to the rightful queen if you’re just going to be hanging over her shoulder constantly?
I actually loved Eclipsa wanting star to trust her as they're basically family. Star has done so much to right the wrongs committed and helping her rebuild her life. Its just that Star kinda offended me a bit when she said, "How am I supposed to trust you when you use spells like that?" being very hypocritical as she has personally read her chapter and used her spells like her mother did. Although the spying spell is one of the lesser evil spells, its still an invasion of privacy and could very well hurt the victim and user. Moon used Eclipsa's immortal killing spell and didn't own up to her end of the bargain, although tainting herself in darkness through her own choice. Most of Eclipsa's spells were created from creativity and necessity for the future.
No matter what they say. Eclipsa will always be star's grandma even if not related
She was selfish and made her decisions first rather than what's best for the kingdom. She was a bad queen through and through.
@cheese1009 you won't make me hate her. And apparently Star doesn't hate her either so... That's her choice to make actually
Your not wrong but the kingdom also shund her for something that dident effect them in any negative way so @@cheese1009
@@cheese1009If whats best for her kingdom is to living with racism then that kingdom really needs a change lol what you are saying dont make sense
@@cheese1009 she was selfish cause they didnt want her, and did you mention what they did to her family ? Or how they respect her ?
Romulus got on my last nerve istg
She body Snatched him.
He has every right to be mad
@@psychospeech6189he’s still annoying tho
He is who started this, there wasn't any reason to imprison her husband@@psychospeech6189
clearly you haven't watched the show,, but trust me. He's in the wrong for everything. @@psychospeech6189
@@psychospeech6189 his behavior after she stole his body was the exact same as before she did it
Marcooo am i ridiculous 🥺
Marco: no
Tom: i have bad taste in fashion and friends
Lol! 😆😂 Poor Tom (and Marco 😅).
In my mind, they are boyfriends 🥺
@@lucario1544oh FRIGGIN SAME!!!
I love how eclipsa has her own cheeks in the shape of spades ♠️ but she also has a moon crescent 🌙 on her thingy around her neck
You missed the best part where when Marco says "dude you look fine." Toms like "Oh my gosh I HAVE BAD TASTE IN CLOTHES AND FRIENDS
Even with low self esteem Tom proceeds to roast Marco
Star and Eclipsa have the best relationship in the whole show
That moment u realize Marco and Eclipsa might be related because of the captain
At atleast one point, moon crescents did show up on his cheeks, so could be possible maybe?
@@jaybird5218That's because all the humans can. They show the first people to get to that isle, that are just normal humans till they get the wand
thats just a theory
@@thepotatoofheaven hence the whole "might"
Its a very interesting theory im ngl
Eclipsas dad being a ancestor to Marco and giving him loose ties to the mewmans
Could also be used as the reason for Marcos family being chosen to take care of Star as some Mewmans ended up on earth so Moon and River just chose mewman descendants
God the characters in this show got absolutely mangled after season 3
Unfortunately true.
Exodus 20:7
@@nicture237 oh please. The most vain someone does is using God's name to justify their hatred against another.
@@nicture237 technically that passage is not talking about the generic word for God (Elohim), which can refer to any deity (even the pagan ones), nor is it talking about "Hashem" or "Adonai", which are replacements that the Hebrews used to avoid breaking this commandment. The name this commandment is talking about is the one specifically revealed to Moses (YHWH)
@@nicture237Nobody cares cultist
Low self esteem nightmare dream will always be my favourite spell 😩😩
It's the story of my life lol
Eclipsa the strongest and baddest character in the all of SVTFOF
Eclipsa. Do you have problems with a grammar correcting program, too?
Furthermore, I think I might have to agree. But on the other hand, it's probably second to Star. She never learned magic without a wand, yet she undid what her daughter had done. Meteora could've chosen to fight her mother, but she was emotionally weak because she had some love for her mother.
@@nicture237 not really It's just that english isn't my first language so sometimes when I'm typing fast I make grammar mistakes
@@nicture237 yeah it's really between star and eclipsa for who the strongest but I put eclipsa over star for the crazy spells and magic feats she has
@@_Dsasi_159 Id say raw power goes to Star while Technique goes to Eclipsa
Tho Star does have acces to most of Eclipsas techniques while the reverse isnt true
From what I remember, Romulus does have his flaws but he's better than most of the council.
He was the one who ended up saying the truth (out of fear that he'd die ofc but better than what the others were going to do)
Eclipsa is also justified tho. All she's ever wanted is to have a peaceful life with her man and baby. Did she go about it the right way? No.
But if I was the council, I'd try to keep my thoughts to myself so I don't offend one of the most powerful people to have existed. If I remember correctly, the only one who rivals Eclipsa in creative power is Star...😅
Also, the was the only one to said that truth AND apologize.
what do you mean the right way...quite literally all she did was run away from the throne, I don't even know if she brought her wand with her when she did so
so literally the council just decided to encase her in crystal, simply cause she gave up her duty of being queen to be in love with a monster
He was a great character but I. Order to make Eclipsa look good they had to derail his character. Which is sad because he was a great ally
@@xxmension04xx47 Well based on other comments I've seen, it gives the impression that Eclipsa technically had the choice to divorce the guy she was previously with and THEN run away with her man. But I don't remember the exact details of how it works in the show 🤷🏻♀️
@jenmiranda13 well I mean technically Eclipsa is the ruler, the king doesn't really have much say since its the Butterfly family who is in control, but then the MHC is higher ranked for some reason
Rhombulus is one of the magical people that most people would be okay with if he died
First off Eclipsa wanted to be happy. She was forced to marry that ass what ever guy because her Mother forced her too, and basically her Mother refused to Ever see anything that her Daughter saw. Eclipsa's marriage to Globgor would have easily brought peace and they could have worked on making the world a better place for all.
She was never a bad Queen, it was what everyone made them think she was bad. One she picked to marry a Monster, who was respected by his kind, he was well intelligent. By calling her evil and bad your basically saying choosing happiness and sanity is wrong but living in hell is great.
Goddamn After Watching Transformers One, Hearing Rhombulus's Voice felt like Darkwing
Colossians 3:8
For being a council, lots of them have a bias that they shouldn't have
Eclipsa is always gunna be my favorite
How are her actions here justified?
It genuinely feels like we're not supposed to root for her, but the crystal guy later is shown to be the one on the wrong?
Rhomulus did everything including freezing globgor as part of an effort to maintain an apartheid state. The show is wild lmfao.
They're both in the wrong and in the right. Long story short, she just wanted to be happy with her husband (guy crystalized) but the council didn't like that so they put him in crystalization and she was willing to commit evil acts so she could be with him again... That is, if I am recalling this correctly it has been a few years.
Because Rhombulus froze Globgor because he's racist and didn't want to believe in reformative punishment
No, eclipsa don't commit any crimes, she was frozen bc she loved globgor@@TheRoseReaper
@@TheRoseReaperthe evil acts in question was fleeing with the guy she loved and their kid, eclipsa was always advertised as evil by the magic council because they didn't like her ideals of equality to monsters, and her having a baby with one of them didn't help the case, but thing is, eclipsa was never evil, she was just not conventionally good, and by that I mean, she can be sarcastic and make snark comments, and that's all
Rhombulus shouldve been put in his own crystal
Star did deflect a blast from Rhombulus and had crystals growing out of his backside
Its funny how the strongest of the butterfly "family" were the only ones who wanted peace with the monsters. The ones who wanted to fight team just stayed within the lines and strive for nothing better.
Hate that crystal guy. Wish there was another season where eclipsa finally can have some effing peace
Ngl Eclipsa was done so dirty repeatedly in this show just for falling in love with someone she wasn’t supposed to. Like the magic commission was more evil than her or the father of her child, they literally tried to set him up to look like a villain the same moment they were bout to crown her as queen just so she’d look guilty.
Low self-esteem nightmare dream😂
Eclipsa was always the best. Personally she should have taken over the high council and the world
Now that would've been evil
Star was unbearable in the last season. Like what’s the point of giving up the crown to the rightful queen if you’re just going to be hanging over her shoulder constantly?
When you need to ask your best friend if something is wrong with you.
Ok, but Star is kinda a hypocrite in this scene. If we look closely at the past events
she just wants her husband back man
And she did get her husband back thanks to Rhombulus' foolish actions.
Girl just trying free her manz and baby daddy
THEY COULD NEVER MAKE ME HATE YOU RHOMBULUS‼️
HA, Tom became self aware.
Could you take it apart and show us the turbine?
Dam star always getting in the way when everyone else is at fault for her doing the things she’s doing now
Star uses spells to get her way all the Time !!!! God i hate this show
Yeah, but she doesn’t literally steal people’s bodies
@@LJCastano o no , she yust kills all magical life in all universes
@@Vulkanius95 I’m never gonna defend the end lol it’s objectively horrible
Exodus 20:7
@@nicture237 wat ?
Sam smith and eclipse are both bad ass queens ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I feel bad for tom
Yeah, do you remember if she undid the spell on him she placed by mistake?
Star, stop being a hypocrite
they did Romulus dirty in the later seasons
I do NOT like Romulus...
Who could blame you?
Help why did the crystal guy say it isn't over mewman eater😭🗣🔥
Because he doesn't get the facts straight that Bobipsa ate babies. Globgar ate King Shastican, but she herself was not a cannibal.
I actually loved Eclipsa wanting star to trust her as they're basically family. Star has done so much to right the wrongs committed and helping her rebuild her life. Its just that Star kinda offended me a bit when she said, "How am I supposed to trust you when you use spells like that?" being very hypocritical as she has personally read her chapter and used her spells like her mother did. Although the spying spell is one of the lesser evil spells, its still an invasion of privacy and could very well hurt the victim and user. Moon used Eclipsa's immortal killing spell and didn't own up to her end of the bargain, although tainting herself in darkness through her own choice. Most of Eclipsa's spells were created from creativity and necessity for the future.
..MADE EVERYTHING RIGHT
...
She’s not a mewman eater
Though Bobipsa kind of was. She ate babies while Globgor ate King Shastican.
She was right tho. You cant ask ur oppresors for cooperation, u gotta take that shit. If star was not there, shed have the love of her life back.
eclipsa tried putting them asleep
Marco am I ridiculous
Name of this show
Using spells to do what you want? Like you do? Hypocrite
The thing is... romulus and other were the ones to not be trusted.
Did the person in the beginning not try aiming for oh i don't know
ANYWHERE BUT HIS DIMONDHEAD AHH HEAD
Ep??
ECLIPSA JUST WANTED TO BE WITH HER HUSBAND 💔💔💔💔
What is a mewman eater?😅
Mewing eater, what
Mewman not mewing
🤫🧏♂️👁️. 👁️
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John 3:16
Season 3 was fine but season 4 was just terrible.
Tomarco