Will post the BIOS file later in the community tab. I thought only Windows is corrupted but can't access any files on the SSD right now. Have to extract the BIOS file again later.
Thank you Roman for the update , that core clock speed is huuuuugee... , congratz my friend. Patiently awaiting this Bios to check if it can be flash to other 6900xt video cards. thank you.
Be aware that this BIOS *WILL NOT* work with existing 6900XTs, these unlocked cards have a new silicon stepping. Flashing to an old stepping card will not unlock the clock limits and will not unlock the voltages either.
@@wewillrockyou1986 sad amd started doing that shit. Polaris and the original Navi was very fun to bios mod, now there's no point, except for maybe memory timings which are still not decoded I think.
cant believe you re-record twice in two different languages, lot of effort. If it were me I'd flip a coin to pick my default language then just put subtitles for the other!
Actually time wise its easier to just talk through two languages in two takes, then to have to type in the second language and time edit it in. As well, people just prefer to hear it in their own language than to have to read text.
I remember going to ComDex or CES (I forget which) in 1996 where AMD had a special tower set up with the first CPU to hit 1 GHz. I want to say it had some kind of refrigeration unit in it's own separate section underneath the tower.
Great job! I always trust your advice. Especially when you recommended liquid metal on top of shunt resistors. What could go wrong? Clearly you understand more than just pouring LN2 into a pot.
the excitement he has when breaking the record is so over the top I had to shut the video off it was just to much for me to bear ...Ya really need to calm it down der8uaer geez dude
Pretty sure the limit was because of the range of the onboard clockgen of the cards. These new cards are with a different stepping which has a clockgen that has increased range. These BIOSes should not be able to unlock the clock limits on the older revision cards.
Your comment reads as "we couldn't rise further the BCLK", but the issue was with the multipliers and as far as I know that's a firmware thing, not physical limitations. Any insight on how it works on these cards?
The limit was surely always intended to be removed kinda like not showing your opponants all your cards in a poker game. Timing is crucial and if you can't meet demand anyway It was literally pointless for them release an unlocked bios initially. I imagine more 6000 series unlocked bios options will surface when the 3080ti drops.
Totally agree on the AMD meme with the bicycle. Not only for extreme overclocking, but for a good custom water loop the power and clock limits are set way too low. The card has more potential but holds itself back (especially for the reference PCB). Maybe the non-reference cards are better since some have a 3rd power connector (but you can't buy them anywhere except for 2-3x the retail price on eBay). It is also really annoying that AMD does not just have an option to check a box called "Water cooled" to stop giving me CPU fan speed errors.
Totally with you on the AMD fucking up their own linup with artifical limits. Most 6800 for example would wreck the 3080 in no RT workloads with 100mv more. This card has the same cooler as the XT but is not able to utilize it :( Even Top 3dMark scores show that stock cards sometimes outperform watercooled ones since the limits are the same.
I have so many questions. Thermal pastes are designed to heat transfer between different materials but not between extreme temperature difference. There must be some kind of thermal conductivity factor plot against operating temperatures specific to each paste. 90 deg cpu/gpu to 20 deg liquid cooler maybe considered in the design but probably not negative (-)20 deg to 90 deg.. and why not cover the lid? Wont condensation destroy the board?... And the chip itself maybe clocked more but wont other components of that gpu board become the physical limiter? Maybe it doesn't have to fail to display the limit... Can the driver be a limiter?
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You should get a vacuum chamber. That way defrosting the card and pot would be nice science experiment every time while getting Ice to change directly from solid to gas in a vacuum ;)
If you're dimming your set LED's you should get them on a proper power supply, one with flicker adjustments. Most DMX LED power supplies have those adjustments.
Dont forget to do this in a well ventilated room with nitrogen! im sure you know... Also should remind viewers that its very cold and it would be like putting your hand in +300 degree water for comparison
Quick question, if you still have the waterblock for the liquid devil 6900xt and aren't planning on putting it back, would you be willing to sell to me, I will 100% buy it from you as I need a waterblock but ek hasn't released a waterblock for the red devil yet. Thank you!! And awesome video btw.
I always wonder what would happen if you put the system in a fishtank and fill it with say, argon and leave the ln2 opening out and make the rest of it airtight. Would condensation still form on the parts?
why don't put computer in big box/container with small hole on top to refile liquid nitrogen. On bottom of container put some dry ice. dry ice will generate co2 (co2 is more heavy vs air) and push out air with moisture from container. I think that will eliminate water problem, no longer sticky Vaseline
0:45 It's not just the clock limit that's been changed, these new "flagship" RX 6900 XT's are using the new, EXTREME binned "Navi 21 XTXH" die. Also, we've somehow reached CPU clock-speeds on massive flagship GPU's... O___O
i have a red devil with a waterblock on it this gpu is really very impressive i game with software set to 2.8ghz! typically running around 2.73ghz but rock solid stable 1090mv 2150mem fast timings. unbelievable honestly i figured that the card would do benchmarks at those high clocks but it can game there too. if this thing had unlimited power offset i think it could run games at 3ghz i hit the 323w limit long before i hit instability. does this ultimate bios allow higher power limits because im sitting at 45c at 323w so i def have temp headroom to push more power through the core.
@@TheCivicsiep3 I have a 6800 XT +5% daily OC running on a 10900K @5.3GHz. I'm curious about game FPS performance with high level overclocks cooled by water. Thanks
@@nubscrub hey check back in a few hours once youtube processes just click on my channel and goto my vids it will be there its processing right now. its just 5 min of zombies gameplay 1440p max everything obv screen recording you lose a few fps not alot tho. also 80 degree ambient temp im in southern va so temps are about 5-10 hotter than if i had my ac on but rly doesnt change much except cpu clock may be a little higher either way if you want any specific game i can record it idc
Hallo Roman, Ein Video zur asrock Formula oc wäre absolut geil! Da sollte in der Theorie oc-technisch noch was drin sein. Liebe Grüße und mach weiter so, geiler content!
Can't help but wonder what would be the maximum gpu frequency if this card (with factory-mounted cooling block) was connected to a 3x360 cooling loop. Can this card oc that much at around 60C ? Is is necessary to go below zero?
For LN2 overclocking, why dont you try encasing the system in a glass box filled with dry air or co2?. only the LN2 inlet could be exposed? That way there wont be condensation problem?
Why go below -90? Can't you slowly lower as you pump up the clock speed to keep the temp range at a decent value to not cause crashes/artifcacts/cracking? Just above -90?
He wants to benefit from the fact that those materials conduct electricity better at those temperatures. Which means it doesn't heat up the GPU that much, which means internal resistance is low and allows for higher frequency. Also extreme voltages with strong current will create a bigger temperature gradient with LN2. And such a gradient isn't a great thing for any micro-processor. Personally or out of curiosity I would try refrigerating it - with mini refrigerating unit. So temps would be only -20 to -45, but probably more sustainable.
Can anyone explain how the condensation / frost or the boiling liquid nitrogen splashing out of the container seemingly onto the PCBs doesn't fry the system?
@@erichall090909 Nah, at 4K it needs to have a 25% hit rate on the cache to be bandwidth limited, but it has over 50%. Remember, 128mb of IC = the ROPs are happy. This means it has over 500 gb left for all else. On a 3090 for example, you need to use around 700 gb for the ROPs and other raster operations...
I'd like to see a set of gaming benchmarks done at 3.2Ghz compared to a 3090 and a stock card ;) - might be extreme but I'd like to see how much fps this gets. I get the feeling that RDNA2 doesn't scale well with frequency above 2.4Ghz but i'd be interesting to see.
Will post the BIOS file later in the community tab. I thought only Windows is corrupted but can't access any files on the SSD right now. Have to extract the BIOS file again later.
Congrats! Great content as always :)
With this card you can put the GPU Power Limit at 150% instead 115%
Thank you Roman for the update , that core clock speed is huuuuugee... , congratz my friend. Patiently awaiting this Bios to check if it can be flash to other 6900xt video cards. thank you.
Be aware that this BIOS *WILL NOT* work with existing 6900XTs, these unlocked cards have a new silicon stepping. Flashing to an old stepping card will not unlock the clock limits and will not unlock the voltages either.
@@wewillrockyou1986 sad amd started doing that shit. Polaris and the original Navi was very fun to bios mod, now there's no point, except for maybe memory timings which are still not decoded I think.
cant believe you re-record twice in two different languages, lot of effort. If it were me I'd flip a coin to pick my default language then just put subtitles for the other!
Actually time wise its easier to just talk through two languages in two takes, then to have to type in the second language and time edit it in. As well, people just prefer to hear it in their own language than to have to read text.
Congratulations on 3.2ghz GPU clock!
This puts Jay to shame
How many Tflops will it have at 3.2 GHz?? 👀
It’s like the equivalent of producing 1.21jigawatts via a flux capacitor!!! Unreal mate
ASRock also launched 6900 XT Ultimate OC Formula along with PowerColor models (Red Devil and Liquid Devil )
When a damn GPU has higher clocks than 50 or more percent of all x86 CPU's out there!
CPUs*
@@JorgetePanete ewf
@@JorgetePanete CPU's is correct because the frequency belongs to the CPU therefore requiring the apostrophe..
If anything it would be CPUs'
yeah but you cant use it in a conventional way. cool but just a score
Der8auer - Universal mounting system
Jayztwocents - *CLAMPS*
That's why he got the same card and he didn't even use the MPT to increase the power limit, he doesnt know how to overclock AMD cards.
@@wolfgangchristl9978 yeah he admitted as much. He haven't done much AMD OC
The Verge -- Tweezers ;)
@@wolfgangchristl9978 Jayztwocents did not have the Ultimate version
Excellent cinematography, fog rolling over RGB is beautiful to watch.
Damn, you got that card running hotter than the surface of the sun. Impressive!
epic. need 3.2+ ghz benchmarks!
SUPER awesome like always, congrats on the new milestone!
hat's off! my fellow Indonesian OC master.
slacker!
Damn, this is nuts! I remember when Athlons came out and 1Ghz was a big deal for a CPU.
I remember going to ComDex or CES (I forget which) in 1996 where AMD had a special tower set up with the first CPU to hit 1 GHz. I want to say it had some kind of refrigeration unit in it's own separate section underneath the tower.
Impatient to see the OC community playing with those cards 🤩
Congratulations Roman
I watch der8auer for this content. Very few people on RUclips are at his level
Lol.
"Very few".
Not a single person on RUclips is at his level.
Not one. Not even close.
@@nexxusty yeah you're right
I said very few cause I don't know every single one of them
@@nexxusty lummi, 8pack, kingpin to name a few are at this level if not better
Got to lover der8auer, no messing around-just smashes out insane overclocks :)
Great job! I always trust your advice. Especially when you recommended liquid metal on top of shunt resistors. What could go wrong? Clearly you understand more than just pouring LN2 into a pot.
Is this sarcasm
@@supersop1367 I ask myself the same xD
8:43 POV: you're running ln2 settings on air
13:39 like that GPU just chilling at 65487 °C.
3.2GHz, that is the all core clockspeed of my 8 year old i7-4700MQ 45 watt mobile quad core processor...
9:00 huh, looks like the temperature is stored in an unsigned 16bit integer :D
or maybe it's signed and the software assumes its unsigned ;-) the difference with 65536 seems to be the negative degrees
no, no, software is flawless. It's just a local catastrophic star burst inside. No need to worry
Actually a micro worm hole opened up in the GPU die that's why you're seeing those temps
Well done! Just blocked my 6900XT MBA this morning.
Well done! Absolutely killed it
the excitement he has when breaking the record is so over the top I had to shut the video off it was just to much for me to bear ...Ya really need to calm it down der8uaer geez dude
Really inspiring video mate! Congrats!
uff imagine playing a game with 3ghz
sorry but the card is playing on its own
@@earthisacube_lul that is why he said imagine.
One day
@@ryanmalin true
Finally would be able to achieve 144 FPS in 4K lol
65 thousand °C. That would be melting the whole room, heck, even the whole city block!
Pretty sure the limit was because of the range of the onboard clockgen of the cards. These new cards are with a different stepping which has a clockgen that has increased range. These BIOSes should not be able to unlock the clock limits on the older revision cards.
Your comment reads as "we couldn't rise further the BCLK", but the issue was with the multipliers and as far as I know that's a firmware thing, not physical limitations. Any insight on how it works on these cards?
@@lepkr6095 the onboard clockgen encompasses the silicon which provides both the "BCLK" as well as the clock multipliers.
great shots and great editing. really enjoyed it
Nice job. Low (>10%) humidity room probably can help.
hold onto this tight before kingpin sees it
I like how you're disappointed, even though you successfully broke a record.
Awesome man! Keep up the good work.
GPU Clock - TO THE MOON!
Whatever, I can't get my hand on any GPU =(
2.7ghz Rx6900xt red devil I have now 75 temp
The limit was surely always intended to be removed kinda like not showing your opponants all your cards in a poker game. Timing is crucial and if you can't meet demand anyway It was literally pointless for them release an unlocked bios initially. I imagine more 6000 series unlocked bios options will surface when the 3080ti drops.
Rip
Congrats Br0!
This could be so interesting, to see where the limits really are and put (a little bit) of hurt on NVidia :) - nice video!
Totally agree on the AMD meme with the bicycle. Not only for extreme overclocking, but for a good custom water loop the power and clock limits are set way too low. The card has more potential but holds itself back (especially for the reference PCB). Maybe the non-reference cards are better since some have a 3rd power connector (but you can't buy them anywhere except for 2-3x the retail price on eBay).
It is also really annoying that AMD does not just have an option to check a box called "Water cooled" to stop giving me CPU fan speed errors.
congrats mate this is awesome..other youtuber should learn more from you instead of bashing this card not reaching its full potential..subscribed
Totally with you on the AMD fucking up their own linup with artifical limits. Most 6800 for example would wreck the 3080 in no RT workloads with 100mv more. This card has the same cooler as the XT but is not able to utilize it :(
Even Top 3dMark scores show that stock cards sometimes outperform watercooled ones since the limits are the same.
This proves the most important thing for extreme overclocking... kitchen towels.
I have so many questions. Thermal pastes are designed to heat transfer between different materials but not between extreme temperature difference. There must be some kind of thermal conductivity factor plot against operating temperatures specific to each paste. 90 deg cpu/gpu to 20 deg liquid cooler maybe considered in the design but probably not negative (-)20 deg to 90 deg.. and why not cover the lid? Wont condensation destroy the board?... And the chip itself maybe clocked more but wont other components of that gpu board become the physical limiter? Maybe it doesn't have to fail to display the limit... Can the driver be a limiter?
You should get a vacuum chamber. That way defrosting the card and pot would be nice science experiment every time while getting Ice to change directly from solid to gas in a vacuum ;)
The steam and the lights look amazing lol
Love your content man keep doing what you do!
Interesting development, keep it up!
Well done
If you're dimming your set LED's you should get them on a proper power supply, one with flicker adjustments. Most DMX LED power supplies have those adjustments.
Dont forget to do this in a well ventilated room with nitrogen! im sure you know... Also should remind viewers that its very cold and it would be like putting your hand in +300 degree water for comparison
If I could get my 1050 running that fast I wouldn't have to worry about the current gpu shortage
Wondering how much faster it would be 😂
@@tharun7290 as fast as a 570
That's badass man.
Quick question, if you still have the waterblock for the liquid devil 6900xt and aren't planning on putting it back, would you be willing to sell to me, I will 100% buy it from you as I need a waterblock but ek hasn't released a waterblock for the red devil yet. Thank you!! And awesome video btw.
What sort of Timespy GPU score were you pulling with this der8auer?
what about using corning fluid to coat the places you don't want moisture coming in contact with.
Nice Work!!!
der8auer ! Would there be any point in continuously spraying inert (dry) gas towards parts of the card prone to condensation? Thinking Co2.
08:44 LMAO that is hotter than the Sun.
Very Nice! Go AMD!!!
I always wonder what would happen if you put the system in a fishtank and fill it with say, argon and leave the ln2 opening out and make the rest of it airtight. Would condensation still form on the parts?
why don't put computer in big box/container with small hole on top to refile liquid nitrogen. On bottom of container put some dry ice. dry ice will generate co2 (co2 is more heavy vs air) and push out air with moisture from container. I think that will eliminate water problem, no longer sticky Vaseline
Because liquid nitrogen is a liquid at −320 °F. That's too cold for most if not all chips to operate at. Onboard battery wouldn't care for it either.
Do your experiments void the warranty on the card? I would think the the condensation on the card would damage the card when it melts.
0:45 It's not just the clock limit that's been changed, these new "flagship" RX 6900 XT's are using the new, EXTREME binned "Navi 21 XTXH" die. Also, we've somehow reached CPU clock-speeds on massive flagship GPU's... O___O
You mad lad you!!!
Не замыкает из-за того что вода дистиллированная получается?
You OCed this card to my CPU's frequency.
Nice work....
i have a red devil with a waterblock on it this gpu is really very impressive i game with software set to 2.8ghz! typically running around 2.73ghz but rock solid stable 1090mv 2150mem fast timings. unbelievable honestly i figured that the card would do benchmarks at those high clocks but it can game there too. if this thing had unlimited power offset i think it could run games at 3ghz i hit the 323w limit long before i hit instability. does this ultimate bios allow higher power limits because im sitting at 45c at 323w so i def have temp headroom to push more power through the core.
Do you have any in-game bench clips?
@@nubscrub I don't but I could what do u want to see?
@@TheCivicsiep3 I have a 6800 XT +5% daily OC running on a 10900K @5.3GHz. I'm curious about game FPS performance with high level overclocks cooled by water. Thanks
@@nubscrub im uploading a video of me playing cold war zombies right now ill post a link
@@nubscrub hey check back in a few hours once youtube processes just click on my channel and goto my vids it will be there its processing right now. its just 5 min of zombies gameplay 1440p max everything obv screen recording you lose a few fps not alot tho. also 80 degree ambient temp im in southern va so temps are about 5-10 hotter than if i had my ac on but rly doesnt change much except cpu clock may be a little higher either way if you want any specific game i can record it idc
You’re a fucken beast Derbauer
Good job !
very nice job man omg
nopefully you convinced them to unlock both the 6800 ad 6800 xts more
How are the VRM temps? Didnt notice any fans pointed at the card, and i guess the thermalpads do insulate them a little.
Hallo Roman,
Ein Video zur asrock Formula oc wäre absolut geil! Da sollte in der Theorie oc-technisch noch was drin sein.
Liebe Grüße und mach weiter so, geiler content!
Nobody: So, how many GHz you're going to clock this card?
der8auer: Yes.
Can't help but wonder what would be the maximum gpu frequency if this card (with factory-mounted cooling block) was connected to a 3x360 cooling loop. Can this card oc that much at around 60C ? Is is necessary to go below zero?
Necessary to go below zero to reduce TDP can find more information on google or an overclockers forum
He already shown the results of his max OC on a 360 rad at 4:20. More rads than a 360 probably gives diminishing returns, if any.
Imagine the fx and that card!!
Oh sweet, just watched Jay try ice with one of these
Bet his conclusion was that AMD sucks for OC and Nvidia is better.
Any breakthroughs with memory overclocking, or it is still limited to 2150mhz?
Thank you for quality content.
Does anyone have a link to the bios?
I'm digging the universal mount!!!
For LN2 overclocking, why dont you try encasing the system in a glass box filled with dry air or co2?. only the LN2 inlet could be exposed? That way there wont be condensation problem?
Or nitrogen. Lol.
Guessing it’d just be harder to do with poor access to other components. Could be a neat experiment tho.
Can you share the PPGen tool?
How many performance uplift compared stock 6900 xt
Amazing, so is this confirmed to be the new die revision? I wonder if the bios will work on the older dies.
Why go below -90? Can't you slowly lower as you pump up the clock speed to keep the temp range at a decent value to not cause crashes/artifcacts/cracking? Just above -90?
He wants to benefit from the fact that those materials conduct electricity better at those temperatures. Which means it doesn't heat up the GPU that much, which means internal resistance is low and allows for higher frequency. Also extreme voltages with strong current will create a bigger temperature gradient with LN2. And such a gradient isn't a great thing for any micro-processor.
Personally or out of curiosity I would try refrigerating it - with mini refrigerating unit. So temps would be only -20 to -45, but probably more sustainable.
Can anyone explain how the condensation / frost or the boiling liquid nitrogen splashing out of the container seemingly onto the PCBs doesn't fry the system?
Instant evaporation in very small amounts
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking this is the card your looking for
Where can I buy the ultimate version of this card?
wow nice. congrats
Go Big Red!
Can someone explain the point of LN OCing? It’s not like it’s possible to actually do anything with it. It’s not sustainable.
Sure I can have fun with it 🤣
It's a sport like drag racing, teams spend millions of dollars to shave that 0.1sec out of the 1/4 mile time to get a new record.
Fun video with LN steam and record breaking needs a point? It's cool (literally).
Was that a liquid devil or liquid devil ultimate
Was ist das? A recent gen video card? I almost believed that none existed. Congrats on your accomplishment!!
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
what is this rog derbauer mobo??? is in sell ??
What is the score in tomespy at 3200Mhz? dat must be good..
Damn that's cool !
The XTXH chip raises limits for both memory and core clocks.
Yeah but above the memory limit and you lose performance. What I’ve seen is people think it destabilizes infinity cache
@@erichall090909 RDNA 2 is not really bandwidth limited anyway.
@@CharcharoExplorer I think at 4k it starts to be. But not much you can do about it
@@erichall090909 Nah, at 4K it needs to have a 25% hit rate on the cache to be bandwidth limited, but it has over 50%.
Remember, 128mb of IC = the ROPs are happy. This means it has over 500 gb left for all else. On a 3090 for example, you need to use around 700 gb for the ROPs and other raster operations...
@@CharcharoExplorer how do you explain being ahead at 1440p but falling far behind at 4k? Just curious I don’t doubt your knowledge
I'd like to see a set of gaming benchmarks done at 3.2Ghz compared to a 3090 and a stock card ;) - might be extreme but I'd like to see how much fps this gets. I get the feeling that RDNA2 doesn't scale well with frequency above 2.4Ghz but i'd be interesting to see.
Has anybody done a long last LN2 challenge with a dry air box or helium box?
wow that pcd is high the height of that cards is mad