@@AverageLuckGamer The first time I heard you call her that, I thought you were saying "Kei Kyuan" and that there must be even more rules I wasn't aware of to pronouncing Chinese names. Until a few videos later when I realized, no, you're just replacing Zhu with Cake because butts. Which, fair, hers is quite nice.
Honestly, when I saw Evelyn was a fire dps, I was sad that everyone was gonna drop S11 for her. But after a bit, I realized that I could just steal Evelyn's W-Engine for S11, so now I'm saving polys for Evelyn's banner now.
ehhh...with the first beta patch, her Wengine is already quite a bit weaker for S11. And it's likely to become even more tailored to Evelyn as more neta patches come along. I'm gonna be doing the opposite, and running Eve with Brimstone.
@@BenAhya Ah, I haven't looked into any leaks so I didn't know that's how the W-Engine works. But if I use Koleda or Lighter since they can stun fast, then I think it'll still work.
“Meta this, Meta that, have you ever met a GIRL before!?” ~Senator Armstrong Fr though I am getting Astra. I don’t even care about whether or not she’s a meta pick.
@@NutXDyour Credit Card will regret it xD. If i would go for Waifu over Meta in ZZZ i would already be broke AF xD. Were getting so many Top Tier Waifus back to back.
@@andreluizpereiraleite3526 I don't have S11 but I really want her because fire is so cool! and that makes me wonder whether I should save for Evelyn or just pull more 50 times to get the 300 pulls in normal banner... haizzzz
@@Fuyuka69 what most people recommend is not spending polys on the standart banner, as you can get their characters anyway with enough time, since theres also the chance of you getting them in the limited banner too. For meta, the better option is problaby to pull evelyn if you are in need of a fire dps (since limited character are mostly stronger) But you can still save polys for another limited character and wait a bit until you get to the character selector, so you can still get s11 and another character that might be good alongside her! (Like ceasar or lighter)
I wanted S11 since the beginning and I never got her. Burnice and Lucy helped me fulfill my fire damage needs and now we will get Evelyn. Honestly, I don't think I want Soldier 11 anymore lmao. It would be cruel though, if I lost Eve's 50/50 to S11...
I got s11 at first, wanted koleda to go with Ben for the group, never got her… until losing my 50/50 on lighter to her 🙃 I’m convinced the gacha has a sense of humour
Honestly the overlapping on roles is the most frustrating part of the game so far. There are 5 elements (Fire Elec Ice Phys Ether )(no Miyabi doesn't count) and 5 classes (Attack Anomaly Defence Stun Support) 25 total Element and Class combinations. The game launched with 17 characters that already had 3 overlaps (Corrin, Billy, and Nekomata are all Physical Attack) Since then we've had 9 new characters, with 2 more coming up for 11 total, and from that list 3 are already overlaps with existing roles if you just consider S ranks (Lighter > Koleda, Yanagi > Grace, and then Evelyn > Soldier 11) and a full *S E V E N* are overlaps if you consider both A and S ranks. So even with the new characters after overlaps we're only at 19 out of the possible 25 element/class combinations. Evelyn, as a body guard, could have been a perfect defence unit. Yes I'm incredibly bitter about Solider 11 for how much she carried me early.
If she kept the same element but was a defence unit, then it's an overlap with Ben since he's fire defence. Since Astra is an ether support, then Evelyn being an ether support would've been a unique combination, especially since Zhu Yuan, Nicole, and soon Astra are the only ether units so far
You also forgot to mention that only 2 characters have the Ether element. It's like the ZZZ team is scared of adding one more Ether unit to the game where the majority of the game has a weakness to that element
@justnormaluser_3758 I do agree to an extent. One of the things that I could have included when I said "there's 25 character combinations" Is that the number could go up to 50 if you think about there being on and off field characters for every one of those 25 combinations. With Lighter vs Koleda being a perfect example here. But I think that on vs off field is a much smaller distinction between element/class, so I focused on that.
If I had a solid fire team I probably wouldn’t touch the new character. But I want more supports too as I start fleshing out end game teams. Either way. ZZZ is fantastic
When Grant Gustin took the picture over Oliver Queen’s grave, I don’t think he ever realized he had made a meme that would be used for such a wide variety of situations for such a long time to come. It’s so good lol
I'll probably just stick with Soldier 11 since i have her M1 already, decently built and the Brimstone. Seems the game just wanted me to play Soldier 11. I also have Koleda as well
Because the defense force is a significant organization like HAND is, my theory is that a big reason we've yet to hear anything about the rest of Obol Squad, is likely that one of their members is a void hunter.
Even if one of their members is a void hunter and they can't drop another void hunter so shortly after Miyabi, there should still be two more members who probably aren't void hunters, and they could totally release one of them after half a year imo
I like that theory. S11 is similar so Soukaku in that she’s the only member of her team released way ahead of the others. I always felt S11 is the leader of her Obol Squad, but if you assume a void hunter is the leader then S11 might be her team’s Anby. If that’s the case we’re probably going to have to wait 6 months to a year before we start getting their members and story.
zzz is my first Hoyo game that i play very long time so im not really that much know how hoyo operate but i like to thing that void hunter is like a Pilgrim unit in Nikke that only released on big event which is half anni and anni so about 6 month apart release.
I mean we got kinda introduced to one other Obol squad member through the story, though we never got to see her. I would be personally really interested in Hoyo's take for a long range sniper in ZZZ (I haven't played any other Hoyo game so i have no idea how that role may be played in Genshin or HSR). Although i do have S11, i haven't built or used her yet and considering how all of my current teams are built heavily around anomaly, i am still unsure on the next banner, if i even have the chance to pull for any of them. For now i am pretty much wiped clean from getting Miyabi and her signature and i don't regret it one bit.
I'm pretty sure that the ZZZ devs are knowingly releasing a lot of dps units for various reasons: 1)The game is still fairly new and new players are constantly entering the game. Nothing is more important to a new player's account than a good dps to carry through all the early/mid-game content that can also scale well into end game. While I like the A-rank dps in this game let's be honest here they are mostly a handicap in end game and are very dependent on good drive-discs and mechanics especially in timed content like shiyu defense (Not to say that you can't clear with them but that in no way are they comparable to their S-rank counterparts in terms of comfort). 2) With the new game mode that just released in order to full clear all end-game content 3 teams are now necessary. Not just 3 slap dash teams but 3 Invested teams that are well built and that you have some familiarity with. Two teams used to be the minimum before and that's not to say that in the future there won't be a new game mode that would require 4 or 5 teams worth of characters but regardless of the amount of teams necessary to clear content the most important character to have built up in any team would almost always be the dps of so that the team is actually able to function without falling apart due to lack of damage. In order to build several dps you have to actually own several dps. 3) Dps characters just sell better. People like big numbers and while supportive characters can enable big numbers in the end it's the dps that creates them hence they get all the love. 4) Supports tend to to break the game around them if they end up being too good. Caesar is a good generic support character that any team can run hence whenever you see team building guides she will almost always be a recommended pick, that being said she's not so strong that devs have had to balance the game around her existence (yet) because she can only be in one team at a time. Now imagine a future where enough Caesar level supports exist that every team can run at least one in each, now the dev team will have to power creep all enemies else all the content becomes too trivial which means all the weaker supports and dps characters get left behind.
After getting lucky on Miyabi pulls, I was considering pulling for her Mindscapes. But then they showed us Astra and Evelyn... and I went back in to survivalist / horder mode 😂 guarding a pile of Polychromes like some sort of Gacha Dragon.
Personally in all the gacha games i play, im getting the characters which i like their models and gameplays, i dont have S11 but even if i have her M6, ill get evelyn anyway because i like her look and her gameplay animations thats it, same thing for all characters so guys try to enjoy games with the characters you love not the characters that meta (im f2p btw). If you love all the characters equally for looks and gameplay then sure get the ones who does better or dont get the ones who does the same with yours.
I'd honestly be surprised if Astra is not better than Nicole in every way possible. Astra is the first limited 5* support: Hoyoverse is going to want to make as much money with her as they can.
Skipping Evelyn snince my soldiers 11 is well-built and can still clear shiyu with no problem. Interested in astra and depending on how good she is, i might pull her for.
evelyn literally ties enemies up and beats them down, at this point she can perform worse than yellow anby i'm still replacing her spice addicted ass this is qingyi vs jane all over again
Having Caesar and Nicole makes me wonder if I will ever need to pull for supports again beyond their look, but then again, imagine playing with the main dps, Astra AND Nicole as well? wheeew
Same thoughts also have Caesar M0S1 and M6S5 Nicole but Astra's the very first limited S rank support. We all know when an agent was the very first from their element, rarity and role. They're freaking busted like Caesar and Miyabi and there might be another end game where we need at least 3 proper teams just like we have now or maybe they'll make it 4 teams as a requirement, we'll never know. I plan on making Caesar x Nagi team 1, Astra x Miyabi team 2 and Zhu Yuan x Lyc x Nicole team 3. The rest will be a prep for a potential team 4 if needed. Astra's kit is very strong but it's not finalized yet so it's still early to decide. Let's just wait and save for now.
@@nkoonkukoo for now, not really. For future end games, probably yes. As the game progresses, they'll release endgames that'll need a proper team with a good support to be able to clear it just like the tower. Always choose universal ones tho.
I myself have no real plan on getting any of the 1.5 characters...yet. I don't really searching for characters because they are meta, I do it because I like the character hence I didn't get Jane. My new goal is to get Ellen when she re runs. As my initial goal was Ellen and Miyabi, just happened to like every character since Casear.
While pulling for Miyabi I lost the 50/50 to S11 (then proceeded to pull miyabi on the next 10) and I'll say just this: even if she's going to stay benched forever, at least it wasn't nekomata
Can you keep your fingers crossed so that the same will happen to me too? It would be even better than winning 50/50 with just one additional 10 pull needed.
Evelyn looks enough like Saber that I’m getting her I’m really hoping in future patches they rework the characters that keep getting replaced by better versions to keep them relevant. Like Piper/Jane Anby/Qinyi or Ellen/Miyabi. I don’t care for Anton or Grace and like their replacements more so they’re whatever. It’s clear they’ve slowly moved the meta into anomaly/disorder and big crowd control movesets. Going back to try Ellen after miyabi was painful. I just hope they don’t forget about them
Soldier's closest saving grace could be if Eve has a relatively poor ult modifier. If we get a dedicated ult and decibel buffer, Soldier might be buffed harder with her higher ult mod (I think it's still the highest among Attackers). Also still believe Attackers being worse off in comparison after the ult change is overblown and unironic gameplay skill issue on players part. If your gameplay means your attacker only gets one ult, adjust your gameplay.
If S11 is Yoimiya level at current game state, I would be upset. But new stronger fire dps doesn't make her weak anyway, she's still doing her job. And with Miyabi+Astra draining your pulls...
I'm so torn because I lost my 50/50 and I have Ellen (w-engin plus 2 mindscapes) with the standard ice team, so I don't know if it's best to leave her and get the 1.5 characters or chase the pity before the banner finishes.
If you are talking about Miyabi, it is better for you to skip imo. There are many posibilities in what 1.5 has to offer, and I personally don't enjoy miyabi that much despite her strength. I still find myself on-fielding Yanagi way more often in my desorder team(Love Nagi), and i'm not thinking about inserting miyabi by herself on any other team because I don't really like her gameplay. Besides, none of us are left with empty hands: Harumasa is not only free but fun. More fun personally than miyabi. If you already have an Ice team, you should build Haru and skip Miyabi and go for 1.5 banners. I didn't have a complete disorder team so that's why I pulled Miyabi, but If I had your option I would take it. Hope you find this helpful
@gabrieleduardoronlezama7757 thanks for the tip, I have a disorder team with Jane Caesar and burnice so I usually swap to that when I don't use my ice team, and I have lighter but I didin't build him. Now I need a good team for electric and fire so I think it's better for me to just wait for 1.5 (I can't even pull bcs I have every A rank maxed). I'm a low spender so now I gotta take advantage of those extra pull that I gained with offers this week.
Astra is probably the more future proof pull, given how Robin and Ruan Mei only increased in value over the course of HSR and how good Lucy, Nicole and Caesar already are. Evelyn is undercut by the fact that I already have a good fire team with Burnice too. So yeah, probably going to prioritize Astra, unless Evelyn's kit convinces me otherwise.
base on the leak i saw there moveset feel like Genshin magic for me rather than the urban ether tech from zzz. I know it's kinda weird from someone that love playing Miyabi, the movesets feel like they have too much particle effect. I prefer the huge ass ether canon brief case and blade with fire charge backpack more so likely a skip for me from both of them but i guess that more like a me thing
@@NonBinary_Star yea im more of a gameplay feeling guy.I simply skip Ceasar despite how meta she is simply because simple because her move feel gimmick to me. Then again i based my review on a leak so i could be wrong tho
@@KyberNaticI’m actually the opposite cuz even thought objectively her gameplay isn’t as good as other agents, controlling a staff character seems funny to me lol
@@snappieboi5026 fair. You know what? Now that you mention, i kinda want an agent that is a magician with a top hat as a weapon. I want to see Zzz dev take on Dr Faust cowboy hat in DMC5 like they did with fox Vergil. don't mind being a hypocrite if the funni agent is good lul.
Soldier 11 was my most wanted character, but the game decided to give one Koleda and two furries. Now, I'm hearing Koleda will be good with Evelyn, so I guess it was a blessing in disguise all along.
Nah, that's just jstern meming by trying to make her sound good. The only buff she gives works only when the enemy is already stunned and she's around 50% worst than Lighter for Evelyn.
@@ahlemlora1452 Koleda M2 is way better than Lighter in main role - stunning. In team Astro/Evelyn - Lighter takes a lot of time for stack fire damage buff plus Astro giving nothing.
After skipped qingyi, i hope astra yao work with zhu yuan as currently i really need more damage booster for her team, caesar is nice but she stun slower than actual stunner (with my current team being zhu, caesar+ nicole)
Astra, Nicole, on field Zhu Yuan. Please make my dream come true, Hoyo. ZY is still my favorite char in the game. I want a way to use her on field more and excuses to pull her mindscapes.
For me i always pull depending on a few factios: *Pull for a character that will become the main star of a new team. *Pull a character that will compliment one of my main teams. Since i right now have a Zhu Yuan team and a Miyabi team. Both which feel very much complete. I am more looking for a new character to make an entire team out of.
The best chance for double banners from the next patch going forward is this being a good opportunity to finally introduce rerun banners. Now we know they have up to 6 banners going so all theyd have to do is slot in some reruns into banner 2 of astra and evelyns banners.
Problaby yes! She is quite a good agent and she can be your character for fire weakness stages! (But still, you need to see if you like playing her, so problaby test her a bit before doing that!)
@@THET1RAMISU Since you were an ass for no reason, you should pull. I'm just saying this so yo uwill have less pulls and have to swipe and thus risk bankruptcy. Some one gives you straight facts, then you spit in their face? Nah. Pull. You need to pull because you need power. You need meta. You don't want to be a loser, right? Pull. Spend money also, when you lose the fifty fifty. Just keep pulling for M6. Trust. She's the best unit...
crackhead theory: In order to counteract Soldier 11 completely eating the dirt, her story with the Obol Squad might come after the idol faction (so maybe like 1.7 or later) and then they'll give her some kinda light rework, shift her to the limited banner and then replace her standard banner slot with another one of her squad members or even one of the earlier limited agents. JUST AN INSANELY COPIUM FUELED THEORY THO
The new deadly assault and floor 50 of the tower showed me that my roster really struggles with fire coverage. I have started to get lucy ready (with the astral voice set) and Evelyn will be joining soon enough
That is also the reason why I did not pull for Qingyi or Jane because I have a good Anby and Piper. I will pull for Astra but skip on Evelyn most likely.
Only interested in Evelyn, but I keep reading that Astra is a healer unit with her Ultimate. Is this bs? I skipped Caesar and it's the only regret I have due to her survivability boost for end game. I dont want to make the same mistake again. I don't have the time or energy to get good.
im a player who came back at 1.4 after losing a 50/50 on jane doe i want both astra and evelyn but jane doe will rerun soon so i am pulling for only evelyn jane do rerun and yanagi rerun is it possible to do that and if so can u do a guide on how to collect as much pulls as possible
I want both Astra and Evelyn (I don't have S11), but because Miyabi and her W-engine were stubborn and cost me a fair amount of pulls, unless I'm lucky, I get one 50/50 and it has to be on Astra. (this isn't counting polys between now and then, it could give me another shot)
Got M2 Solider 11 but not a huge fan of her gameplay so might get Evelynn. Maybe just wait and see what the banner after is first though, 100% pulling for one of the idol characters when they come
I would love it if every banner was like what we have now with both limited characters running the full 6 weeks, but I agree it seems more like a special situation bc Haramasa is free and they know most people were going to want to skip for Miyabi anyways.
I'm going to guess that Trigger (or someone else on Obol) is going to provide a buff that benefits S11 to bring her up. Power Creeping S11 before her faction is crazy.
My Obol Squad headcanon will bring a Defense Fire agent in a mecha suit, a Physical Stunner that uses ranged attacks (sniper or HMG), and an Electric Anomaly hacker/ECM.
Right now planning on waiting for more info on them and either choosing to pull for them or go for M1 Miyabi since have 13 pulls + over 9000 Polychromes already after getting Miabiy and her weapon Evelyn is sort of more tempting because no fire DPS on account, though could get once I get 32 more standard tapes though honestly right now feeling like picking up Rina instead(since currently only missing of said selection Solider 11, rina and Nekomiya) and I have Rina and Neko W engines so they do sort of make more sense even if missing a fire DPS.
isn’t it confirmed that all limited banners for all hoyo games will be available throughout the entire patch now? like hsr starting in 2.0 all limited banners will be available throughout the entire patch
I got S11 trying to pull MIyabi and I love her (still got MIyabi and her wengine btw). Caesar and Lucy are on her team and she does wonders, even if I pull for evelyn I can just switch between the two on that team.
I got fire agents but not as DPS but I can work around that ( I don't have the following Fire agents --> S11 and Lighter ). As for ( Ether Element ) I only have Nicole so.... you know were I'm going with this 😂😅
Astra is a meta waifu and Evelyn is a mega waifu. I’m almost certainly pulling for Astra first. Evelyn, while her gameplay leaks and design look a little better to me, I will pull Astra first. Astra sounds so universally useful and meta, plus I still think she is hot…just not as hot as Evelyn. If I get lucky with Astra pulls and win 5050 and get her early I will not pull weapons and just go for Evelyn.
Fr, honestly I'm gonna skip miyabi's w-engine just for a chance to get them both (miyabi is destroying everything anyway). I'm tempted to get evelyn first because whip mommy, but Astra looks too good to miss out on (especially since I'm caesar-less), so I'll probably start with her.
@ it took me 170 pulls to get Miyabi and I only pay for the cheap things. It was rough and a bit frustrating. I am set on not becoming a whale even if I could technically do it a little. I’d rather be responsible with my money. This is why I pretty much never pull for engines. Now that we can walk around as our characters, getting a character has more weight to it.
@conradsmith9441 I feel you, I lost 50/50 to nekomata and then got miyabi, a painful 150 or so pulls. Had to skip lighter for the fox vergil, but I like her animations and playstyle too much to miss out on her. I'll wait for her rerun to get her w-engine if there aren't any character I want in that moment.
From what I hear the banner change is supposed to happen to all 3 games, and it wasn't announced as an event like HSR's triple rerun event, so it should be permanent
I wish I was even slightly excited for either of these two. I'll have to see their kits and then the promo material. I was talking with a friend today with how I really had no interest in Ellen from an initial visual standpoint. Sharkgirl, okay neat. Then I got to know her and I'm like "Well fuck now I need her", Jane was the first character I knew I wantd from the get go. I like the rat. Burnice was more a "Well I didn't get Caesar that I wanted for meta reasons, might at well get Burnice to make my jane team nuclear". tl;dr I hope I like these ladies more when I see more of them.
7:39 Oh no! You got me! Started building S11 for the sake of 3rd team (came clutch with new endgame mode ngl) and I also have Koleda and Lighter. Evelyn reveal is my first "gooner" moment but now I feel bad for ditching S11 one day... but going to have as much fun with her as I can before Eve comes home.
My read is about the same as yours; Astra will likely be the meta choice between the two. But… GOD Evelyn is so pretty. Like it’s ridiculous. And she seems to be voiced by one of my favorite VAs, Elizabeth Maxwell. Why must I already have fire covered by Burnice and S11! On a slightly related note; the Astral Voice disc set technically has a higher ceiling for its buff than Swing Jazz, with three stacks of Astral granting a 24% buff vs Swing Jazz’s 15%. Swing Jazz is still a lot easier to set up though, so I’ll probably stick with it.
I'm in the same boat. "If you're meta player you need to be insane to skip the first limited S-rank support that fits into any team comp unconditionally with 1500 ATK buff loaded with quick assists, otherwise you'll get tired of seeing her in every team comp recommendation". But oh boi they cooked with Evelyn. Ultimate with armpit zoom followed by whole length thigh and leg zoom. Chain attack with giant spandex ass in your face. Fingers explosion followed by accentuated booba shake. Astra is an innocent class rep and Evelyn is a sex predator at this point, who can give Jane a fair fight.
as for me -- i need coverage on most elements, i dont have any fire units that are decently built except Lucy. i have a fresh Koleda, and no S11 so i think ill choose Evelyn from an account's perspective. I also dont have Ether except just NIcole + Evelyn's aboba. it wins
Gonna wait for more info on them before I make a hard call, but if Astra does work with everyone I might pick her up. I didn't pick up Zhu Yuan, so my ether selection is kinda lackluster. At the same time, I do have Koleda and Lucy. Evelyn could slot into a nice fire team. However, I am going to have my free S rank for 300 pulls on the standard banner coming up. I could just get Soldier 11 from that and then get Astra. Obviously, Soldier 11 won't be as powerful as Evelyn, but she'd be good enough to give me a nice fire team for when I need one (like the current Deadly Assault.)
My dreams came true of having a full section 6 team with their signatures (minus harumasa) so now im kinda lost Ill probably go for astra since i already have a soldier 11 with her weapon if if they are still lvl1 Either way my days of saving polys are finally done
Maybe its a skill issue on my part, but I couldn't clear deadly assount with a well built Soldier 11, Ceasar and Lucy. Can't even break the A rank on Pompey which is suposed to be a good matchup
I have M6 Nicole, so Astra’s value is severely diminished. I never snagged Solder 11, so I’m definitely going to pull for Evelyn. But the rumor is retuning banners are hitting with the next update: Astra/Ellen & Evelyn/Zhu Yuan. I grabbed Ellen and lost 50/50 for Zhu Yuan. Now I’m struggling to decide how to pull as an ALG. Hopefully saving since Miyabi’s release will bring me luck, but I’m up for a 50/50 next S-rank pull.
Astra is the closest character to *redacted* faction and i have a feeling she'll be a hsr robin counterpart in zzz. If she do, i might have to pull for her since robin is a game changer for my hsr account
Honestly i wouldn't drop Solider 11 just yet. I thought with Miyabi now out my Ellen wouldn't see any use on my account anymore but with the new endgame mode Deadly Assult where we currently have 2 bosses with Ice weakness i couldn't be more wrong. So in the future where we need 2 Fire dmg dealers Soldier 11 will still see usage.
I planned out 3 teams of mine and now I'm waiting on Qingyi and Ceasar's reruns Will probably pick up Astra (Qingyi/Astra/Zhu Yuan sounds hype), and Evelyn will need to really knock my socks off to get my attention. I am a S11 haver after all
i might pick up astra yao if im lucky enough, if shes going to be good for anomaly teams. ill have to wait and see for confirmation on that but 1.5 will probably just be a skip patch for me which is GREAT, because my miyabi pulls were an absolute disaster (lost the 50/50, lost the weapon at hard pity, and had to go to hard pity AGAIN to get her s1) praying for some average luck because thats now 5 losses in a row after my last streak of…16 losses. do i start a yt channel called Below Average Luck Gamer? lol
Astra is super tempting, but Evelyn will be my easiest skip of all the banners we've had so far. I've done my fair share of grinding out my Soldier 11 and have done perfectly fine with tackling late-stage enemies in a quick manner. Plus, after going all out on Miyabi and Harumasa, I think I need some time to simply recover, haha...
I chose S11 out of the 300 standard banner pulls... S11 definitely came out way too early. She doesn't even have her final friendship mission to max out her friend level. I think it's a shame to see a new fire attack agent when we already have one. But I'll definitely get Evelyn.
Since I lost my 50/50 on Miyabi, I'm planning on saving for Yao + Evelyn. Since I already own Burnice (who I use with a Jane+Caesar comp) do you think it'd be a waste to get another fire "dps"?
I wonder what the deal is with Soldier 11 being added ao early and seems to be last to get any finished content. I wonder if something happened during development or if there is a good story related reason for this
Tbh I wasn't originally gonna pull for Miyabi since her character isn't that interesting to me overall, however ended up getting her in a single 10 pull so then wasted all my so far saved poly for her w-engine which still haven't got. Though I was more or less gonna skip the 1.5 banners in leiu of waiting for Zhu Yuan to rerun, but then we had the game awards trailer and the last section of the 1.4 story that cemented that I'll begrudgingly pull definitely for Evelyn cause she's 100% waifu (perhaps up there with Zhu Yuan and Caesar but time will tell) and possibly for Astra depending on how good she turns out to be. If she's not massively better than Nicole I may skip her but will have to see
I have M1 Soldier 11. Not that it was _planned_ but anyway. No shot i spend on Eve, no matter how nice she looks. Astra... maybe. Depends. I just lost my 50/50 on Miyabi, means it will be close, getting her and basically impossible getting her Engine. So i doubt I will have stuff over for her, though it would be nice getting another universal Support. I already have trouble with Lucy being everywhere.
Your decision to pull involves considering the value that Astra brings to the team. I pull cos i need the heal that Astra provides so i can slot her in my Miyabi team thus freeing up Caesar. We are not the same.
She’s a standard banner dps. She was always going to get replaced. Tired of getting her in my pulls because I really don’t care to play her but she’s the only fire attack dps we have so I was kind of pushed into building her as I skipped Jane and Zhu Yuan. The moment Eve drops S11 is perma benched for me.
Chaotic Fried Rice OR Evelyn? No, wrong, BOTH. (If I can swing it. Miyabi came home in few enough pulls that I felt confident trying for her Wengine, and I got that, and now I'm back to Hoard Mode for the next patch, so I'm feeling lucky.) Hopefully Idol Group will be the faction after these two, since they'll be easy skips I can stock up on.
![[1.4] The story so far - Zenless Zone Zero Season One](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uOX7DhZbAEo/mqdefault.jpg)
Only usefull for WHO? 2:20 do you mean Zhu Yuan?
Sorry, freudian slip I guess.
@@AverageLuckGamer The first time I heard you call her that, I thought you were saying "Kei Kyuan" and that there must be even more rules I wasn't aware of to pronouncing Chinese names.
Until a few videos later when I realized, no, you're just replacing Zhu with Cake because butts. Which, fair, hers is quite nice.
i though he said cake yuan, would not be wrong.
@@StevenUlyssesPerhero Cake Yuan, the one who has the whole bakery
With the ult changes, Nicole just became even more crazy
So true
She is Bullshit Good and I like Bullshit Good Characters
On the note of Anby and Soldier 11, I would love if 2.0 later down the line has their story finally unfold
Oh yeah dont they have a kind of relation or sum thing like that?
I can't wait to find out a bit more about their backstories.
@@justasleepyfool its not confirmed but they look really similar even including their weapons and ult animations + anby never talks about her past
@itssliamm 😎ok👍
And then we get a S rank Anby
Average luck gamer: soldier 11 was the only standard banner 5 star attack agent at launch
Nekomata: sad cat noises
Literal mindblank.
@ fair I also always forget about nekomata especially since she’s the only standard 5 star I don’t have
Poor kitty just can't catch a break... at least I get her every time I lose a 50/50... "lucky" me. (M3 already)
As a Neko main, this hurt me when he said it
@@ArkwingIt's Ok, She'll help ya win, but lunch is on you
Honestly, when I saw Evelyn was a fire dps, I was sad that everyone was gonna drop S11 for her. But after a bit, I realized that I could just steal Evelyn's W-Engine for S11, so now I'm saving polys for Evelyn's banner now.
You dropped your hat, Satan.
ehhh...with the first beta patch, her Wengine is already quite a bit weaker for S11. And it's likely to become even more tailored to Evelyn as more neta patches come along. I'm gonna be doing the opposite, and running Eve with Brimstone.
her w-engine is very niche tho as it need to trigger chain attack frequently which only evelyn can do it
@@BenAhya Ah, I haven't looked into any leaks so I didn't know that's how the W-Engine works. But if I use Koleda or Lighter since they can stun fast, then I think it'll still work.
You should pull Astra to buff your S11
“Meta this, Meta that, have you ever met a GIRL before!?” ~Senator Armstrong
Fr though I am getting Astra. I don’t even care about whether or not she’s a meta pick.
Waifu over meta and you won't regret it
she is gonna be meta tho so u saying "i dont care about whether or not she's meta" isn't exactly something hahaha
as long as you trust her sure i trusted miyabi and man does she slaps
@@NutXDyour Credit Card will regret it xD. If i would go for Waifu over Meta in ZZZ i would already be broke AF xD. Were getting so many Top Tier Waifus back to back.
To be fair, if youre an s11 main, you're problaby going to keep using her anyway!
And nicole... cunning hares for the win!
As I went onto later in the video, it's not like she'll be unusable.
@@AverageLuckGamer makes sense! Its all about having fun after all!
Good luck on your pulls!
@@andreluizpereiraleite3526 I don't have S11 but I really want her because fire is so cool! and that makes me wonder whether I should save for Evelyn or just pull more 50 times to get the 300 pulls in normal banner... haizzzz
@@Fuyuka69 what most people recommend is not spending polys on the standart banner, as you can get their characters anyway with enough time, since theres also the chance of you getting them in the limited banner too.
For meta, the better option is problaby to pull evelyn if you are in need of a fire dps (since limited character are mostly stronger)
But you can still save polys for another limited character and wait a bit until you get to the character selector, so you can still get s11 and another character that might be good alongside her! (Like ceasar or lighter)
Yeah, i mean I'm still on my way to m2 my miyabi so i don't think i have enough resources to pull for Evelyn.
Obol squad please save my girls soldier 11 😖🙏🏽
fingers crossed
Imagine if they give her a combination attack, like with koleda and Ben, with her Obal squad members like some team seal 6 formation type shit.
Next patch Evelyn will replace her... and takes her W- engine plus disk drives
@@azureknight729 bro that would be so sick, ain’t no 1 on 1’s in obol squad 😂
@Tik1_1 don’t say that 😭
I wanted S11 since the beginning and I never got her. Burnice and Lucy helped me fulfill my fire damage needs and now we will get Evelyn. Honestly, I don't think I want Soldier 11 anymore lmao.
It would be cruel though, if I lost Eve's 50/50 to S11...
Saying this with no ill intent, honestly that would be so hilarious due to how rich in irony it would be if it happens
Same situation for me. I really wanted S11 and I'm even close to the 300 selector. At this point though maybe it just wasn't meant to be.
I got s11 at first, wanted koleda to go with Ben for the group, never got her… until losing my 50/50 on lighter to her 🙃 I’m convinced the gacha has a sense of humour
Let us know what happens
crazy that we're getting a celebrity and her bodyguard and they made the bodyguard more attractive
subjective in terms of "attractiveness" but i would agree both looks very pretty
Honestly the overlapping on roles is the most frustrating part of the game so far. There are 5 elements (Fire Elec Ice Phys Ether )(no Miyabi doesn't count) and 5 classes (Attack Anomaly Defence Stun Support)
25 total Element and Class combinations. The game launched with 17 characters that already had 3 overlaps (Corrin, Billy, and Nekomata are all Physical Attack)
Since then we've had 9 new characters, with 2 more coming up for 11 total, and from that list 3 are already overlaps with existing roles if you just consider S ranks (Lighter > Koleda, Yanagi > Grace, and then Evelyn > Soldier 11) and a full *S E V E N* are overlaps if you consider both A and S ranks.
So even with the new characters after overlaps we're only at 19 out of the possible 25 element/class combinations.
Evelyn, as a body guard, could have been a perfect defence unit.
Yes I'm incredibly bitter about Solider 11 for how much she carried me early.
If she kept the same element but was a defence unit, then it's an overlap with Ben since he's fire defence.
Since Astra is an ether support, then Evelyn being an ether support would've been a unique combination, especially since Zhu Yuan, Nicole, and soon Astra are the only ether units so far
@thekillrcraftr yeah she'd be overlapping with Ben, but I'm a little bit less annoyed by replacing A rank units with A ranks.
A bit less anyways.
You also forgot to mention that only 2 characters have the Ether element. It's like the ZZZ team is scared of adding one more Ether unit to the game where the majority of the game has a weakness to that element
but Koelda and lighter, Yanagi and grace have totally different playstyles. Ik what u mean and i partly agree
@justnormaluser_3758 I do agree to an extent.
One of the things that I could have included when I said "there's 25 character combinations" Is that the number could go up to 50 if you think about there being on and off field characters for every one of those 25 combinations. With Lighter vs Koleda being a perfect example here.
But I think that on vs off field is a much smaller distinction between element/class, so I focused on that.
I got M2 Soldier 11. I will slay god with her if I must.
mine is M3. and yeah, this is just a free skip ay
Based
Same. Also decided to skip miyabi because ellen and + lighter works well with both gals.
The only thing Nicole will have that Astra wont is the suckkysuck black hole which is such a powerful crowd control.
I do love Nicole's suck.
@@AverageLuckGamerAYOOO
If I had a solid fire team I probably wouldn’t touch the new character. But I want more supports too as I start fleshing out end game teams. Either way. ZZZ is fantastic
When Grant Gustin took the picture over Oliver Queen’s grave, I don’t think he ever realized he had made a meme that would be used for such a wide variety of situations for such a long time to come. It’s so good lol
I'll probably just stick with Soldier 11 since i have her M1 already, decently built and the Brimstone. Seems the game just wanted me to play Soldier 11. I also have Koleda as well
Im in the same situation with S11
Got her M2 but seriously liking how Evelyn looks. Soldier 11 is a bit annoying and underwhelming to play imo
Because the defense force is a significant organization like HAND is, my theory is that a big reason we've yet to hear anything about the rest of Obol Squad, is likely that one of their members is a void hunter.
Even if one of their members is a void hunter and they can't drop another void hunter so shortly after Miyabi, there should still be two more members who probably aren't void hunters, and they could totally release one of them after half a year imo
I like that theory. S11 is similar so Soukaku in that she’s the only member of her team released way ahead of the others.
I always felt S11 is the leader of her Obol Squad, but if you assume a void hunter is the leader then S11 might be her team’s Anby.
If that’s the case we’re probably going to have to wait 6 months to a year before we start getting their members and story.
zzz is my first Hoyo game that i play very long time so im not really that much know how hoyo operate but i like to thing that void hunter is like a Pilgrim unit in Nikke that only released on big event which is half anni and anni so about 6 month apart release.
Hopefully it's Joyous.
I mean we got kinda introduced to one other Obol squad member through the story, though we never got to see her. I would be personally really interested in Hoyo's take for a long range sniper in ZZZ (I haven't played any other Hoyo game so i have no idea how that role may be played in Genshin or HSR).
Although i do have S11, i haven't built or used her yet and considering how all of my current teams are built heavily around anomaly, i am still unsure on the next banner, if i even have the chance to pull for any of them. For now i am pretty much wiped clean from getting Miyabi and her signature and i don't regret it one bit.
you called me out hard with the Evelyn quip at the end lol.
I'm pretty sure that the ZZZ devs are knowingly releasing a lot of dps units for various reasons:
1)The game is still fairly new and new players are constantly entering the game. Nothing is more important to a new player's account than a good dps to carry through all the early/mid-game content that can also scale well into end game. While I like the A-rank dps in this game let's be honest here they are mostly a handicap in end game and are very dependent on good drive-discs and mechanics especially in timed content like shiyu defense (Not to say that you can't clear with them but that in no way are they comparable to their S-rank counterparts in terms of comfort).
2) With the new game mode that just released in order to full clear all end-game content 3 teams are now necessary. Not just 3 slap dash teams but 3 Invested teams that are well built and that you have some familiarity with. Two teams used to be the minimum before and that's not to say that in the future there won't be a new game mode that would require 4 or 5 teams worth of characters but regardless of the amount of teams necessary to clear content the most important character to have built up in any team would almost always be the dps of so that the team is actually able to function without falling apart due to lack of damage. In order to build several dps you have to actually own several dps.
3) Dps characters just sell better. People like big numbers and while supportive characters can enable big numbers in the end it's the dps that creates them hence they get all the love.
4) Supports tend to to break the game around them if they end up being too good. Caesar is a good generic support character that any team can run hence whenever you see team building guides she will almost always be a recommended pick, that being said she's not so strong that devs have had to balance the game around her existence (yet) because she can only be in one team at a time. Now imagine a future where enough Caesar level supports exist that every team can run at least one in each, now the dev team will have to power creep all enemies else all the content becomes too trivial which means all the weaker supports and dps characters get left behind.
Piper is strong at least if you're good at dodge canceling... and miss Jane.
After getting lucky on Miyabi pulls, I was considering pulling for her Mindscapes. But then they showed us Astra and Evelyn... and I went back in to survivalist / horder mode 😂 guarding a pile of Polychromes like some sort of Gacha Dragon.
learned never miss out on a support, esp a buffer, so im pulling astra
oh boy, as a Cake Yuen main I'm so going to pull Astra
Feel that
Personally in all the gacha games i play, im getting the characters which i like their models and gameplays, i dont have S11 but even if i have her M6, ill get evelyn anyway because i like her look and her gameplay animations thats it, same thing for all characters so guys try to enjoy games with the characters you love not the characters that meta (im f2p btw).
If you love all the characters equally for looks and gameplay then sure get the ones who does better or dont get the ones who does the same with yours.
I'd honestly be surprised if Astra is not better than Nicole in every way possible.
Astra is the first limited 5* support: Hoyoverse is going to want to make as much money with her as they can.
She should be, otherwise it'd be unfair to those who wanna pull for Astra
Skipping Evelyn snince my soldiers 11 is well-built and can still clear shiyu with no problem. Interested in astra and depending on how good she is, i might pull her for.
evelyn literally ties enemies up and beats them down, at this point she can perform worse than yellow anby i'm still replacing her spice addicted ass
this is qingyi vs jane all over again
Having Caesar and Nicole makes me wonder if I will ever need to pull for supports again beyond their look, but then again, imagine playing with the main dps, Astra AND Nicole as well? wheeew
Same thoughts also have Caesar M0S1 and M6S5 Nicole but Astra's the very first limited S rank support. We all know when an agent was the very first from their element, rarity and role. They're freaking busted like Caesar and Miyabi and there might be another end game where we need at least 3 proper teams just like we have now or maybe they'll make it 4 teams as a requirement, we'll never know.
I plan on making Caesar x Nagi team 1, Astra x Miyabi team 2 and Zhu Yuan x Lyc x Nicole team 3. The rest will be a prep for a potential team 4 if needed.
Astra's kit is very strong but it's not finalized yet so it's still early to decide. Let's just wait and save for now.
I feel like Supports are the best characters in this game. So not pulling for the latest one feels like a disadvantage.
@@nkoonkukoo for now, not really. For future end games, probably yes. As the game progresses, they'll release endgames that'll need a proper team with a good support to be able to clear it just like the tower. Always choose universal ones tho.
There’s no point in having 2 supports with dps over a stunner
Nah don’t skip Astra, would not be a wise choice if you care about having a strong account. If you don’t care about that then do you of course
The thumbnail speaks to me personally. We need the other OBOL Squad members asap!
I myself have no real plan on getting any of the 1.5 characters...yet. I don't really searching for characters because they are meta, I do it because I like the character hence I didn't get Jane. My new goal is to get Ellen when she re runs. As my initial goal was Ellen and Miyabi, just happened to like every character since Casear.
Yes the drive set is meant for her, and also the buffs she provides is insane and of great value(more than Caesar even)
Whare are you getting this info from?
Yeah ofc she a support unit will be a better buffer than a defense unit
@@maughtayo Jstern
@@Hhhh22222-w Then why the hell does Caesar buff lol? She is supposed to be a defensive unit
@JunaidAnsari-my2cx I don't doubt she will be good, but there is still plenty that could change until the patch drops.
“Im no longer just like you, im an above average luck gamer that sacked Miyabi and her signature weapon in so few pulls you would cry.”
I have a fully build soldier 11. No I ain’t giving her up for a fire attacker 😅
While pulling for Miyabi I lost the 50/50 to S11 (then proceeded to pull miyabi on the next 10) and I'll say just this: even if she's going to stay benched forever, at least it wasn't nekomata
Can you keep your fingers crossed so that the same will happen to me too? It would be even better than winning 50/50 with just one additional 10 pull needed.
Yeah i just lost 50/50 to S11 too…
Evelyn looks enough like Saber that I’m getting her
I’m really hoping in future patches they rework the characters that keep getting replaced by better versions to keep them relevant. Like Piper/Jane Anby/Qinyi or Ellen/Miyabi. I don’t care for Anton or Grace and like their replacements more so they’re whatever.
It’s clear they’ve slowly moved the meta into anomaly/disorder and big crowd control movesets. Going back to try Ellen after miyabi was painful. I just hope they don’t forget about them
Soldier's closest saving grace could be if Eve has a relatively poor ult modifier. If we get a dedicated ult and decibel buffer, Soldier might be buffed harder with her higher ult mod (I think it's still the highest among Attackers).
Also still believe Attackers being worse off in comparison after the ult change is overblown and unironic gameplay skill issue on players part. If your gameplay means your attacker only gets one ult, adjust your gameplay.
Point is that characters other than your dps are worth ulting with now
WAIT YOU HAVE 20K SUBS NOW?? I REMEMBER U HAD LIKE 2K LAST TIME I WATCHED U DOPEEE
i have S11, Burnice, m lucy, Koleda, and lighter. im going to get evelyn because i've accepted i have a fire account.
If S11 is Yoimiya level at current game state, I would be upset. But new stronger fire dps doesn't make her weak anyway, she's still doing her job. And with Miyabi+Astra draining your pulls...
I'm so torn because I lost my 50/50 and I have Ellen (w-engin plus 2 mindscapes) with the standard ice team, so I don't know if it's best to leave her and get the 1.5 characters or chase the pity before the banner finishes.
If you are talking about Miyabi, it is better for you to skip imo. There are many posibilities in what 1.5 has to offer, and I personally don't enjoy miyabi that much despite her strength. I still find myself on-fielding Yanagi way more often in my desorder team(Love Nagi), and i'm not thinking about inserting miyabi by herself on any other team because I don't really like her gameplay. Besides, none of us are left with empty hands: Harumasa is not only free but fun. More fun personally than miyabi. If you already have an Ice team, you should build Haru and skip Miyabi and go for 1.5 banners. I didn't have a complete disorder team so that's why I pulled Miyabi, but If I had your option I would take it. Hope you find this helpful
@gabrieleduardoronlezama7757 thanks for the tip, I have a disorder team with Jane Caesar and burnice so I usually swap to that when I don't use my ice team, and I have lighter but I didin't build him. Now I need a good team for electric and fire so I think it's better for me to just wait for 1.5 (I can't even pull bcs I have every A rank maxed). I'm a low spender so now I gotta take advantage of those extra pull that I gained with offers this week.
Well I'll be breaking my thumb on the pull button for Chaotic Fried Rice
Wow! Guess who just spent alot of resources on Soldier 11 :D YAAAYY!!!!!! WOOHO!!!!!!!
sorry man
@@AverageLuckGamer It's fine though tbh. I still probably will use her over Evelyn, but that depends considering it's all speculation
S11 still is good enough to clear endgame. Pull astra and skip eve imo
I agree, it would be a lot more interestng to see more attribute + character type combinations
Astra is probably the more future proof pull, given how Robin and Ruan Mei only increased in value over the course of HSR and how good Lucy, Nicole and Caesar already are. Evelyn is undercut by the fact that I already have a good fire team with Burnice too. So yeah, probably going to prioritize Astra, unless Evelyn's kit convinces me otherwise.
Caesar is like Aventurine or Fu Xuan, Nicole and Lucy are like Tingyun and glasses girl
base on the leak i saw there moveset feel like Genshin magic for me rather than the urban ether tech from zzz. I know it's kinda weird from someone that love playing Miyabi, the movesets feel like they have too much particle effect. I prefer the huge ass ether canon brief case and blade with fire charge backpack more so likely a skip for me from both of them but i guess that more like a me thing
both astra and eve looked like Genshin magical ✨ move sets?
Magical girl VFX only purple beams are quite underwhelming compared to what other agents have in ZZZ, I agree.
@@NonBinary_Star yea im more of a gameplay feeling guy.I simply skip Ceasar despite how meta she is simply because simple because her move feel gimmick to me. Then again i based my review on a leak so i could be wrong tho
@@KyberNaticI’m actually the opposite cuz even thought objectively her gameplay isn’t as good as other agents, controlling a staff character seems funny to me lol
@@snappieboi5026 fair. You know what? Now that you mention, i kinda want an agent that is a magician with a top hat as a weapon. I want to see Zzz dev take on Dr Faust cowboy hat in DMC5 like they did with fox Vergil. don't mind being a hypocrite if the funni agent is good lul.
Soldier 11 was my most wanted character, but the game decided to give one Koleda and two furries. Now, I'm hearing Koleda will be good with Evelyn, so I guess it was a blessing in disguise all along.
Nah, that's just jstern meming by trying to make her sound good. The only buff she gives works only when the enemy is already stunned and she's around 50% worst than Lighter for Evelyn.
@@ahlemlora1452yeah but not a lot of people got lighter.
@@ahlemlora1452 Koleda M2 is way better than Lighter in main role - stunning. In team Astro/Evelyn - Lighter takes a lot of time for stack fire damage buff plus Astro giving nothing.
Gotta see the sniff boo on the evelyn ult without her jacket 👀
and i just got soldier 11 on miyabi 50/50 lol. game musta felt bad because i was down to one last pull after and bam miyabi. yay
After skipped qingyi, i hope astra yao work with zhu yuan as currently i really need more damage booster for her team, caesar is nice but she stun slower than actual stunner (with my current team being zhu, caesar+ nicole)
Astra, Nicole, on field Zhu Yuan. Please make my dream come true, Hoyo.
ZY is still my favorite char in the game. I want a way to use her on field more and excuses to pull her mindscapes.
Nichole's auto attack strings are super comfy it will be interesting to see how she plays on field
For me i always pull depending on a few factios:
*Pull for a character that will become the main star of a new team.
*Pull a character that will compliment one of my main teams.
Since i right now have a Zhu Yuan team and a Miyabi team. Both which feel very much complete. I am more looking for a new character to make an entire team out of.
The best chance for double banners from the next patch going forward is this being a good opportunity to finally introduce rerun banners. Now we know they have up to 6 banners going so all theyd have to do is slot in some reruns into banner 2 of astra and evelyns banners.
Meta-defining Support VS Hot fire DPS, its Caesar VS Burnice all over again lol and I want both T.T
Should I LVL up Soldier 11? Cus I've got her M1 and signature
Problaby yes! She is quite a good agent and she can be your character for fire weakness stages!
(But still, you need to see if you like playing her, so problaby test her a bit before doing that!)
Nobody can tell you what you should upgrade. It's your account and meta is irrelevant in a solo game.
uh... maybe wait? See if you're interested in Evelyn first.
@@Luftgitarrenprofi your comment is useless 💕
@@THET1RAMISU Since you were an ass for no reason, you should pull. I'm just saying this so yo uwill have less pulls and have to swipe and thus risk bankruptcy. Some one gives you straight facts, then you spit in their face? Nah. Pull. You need to pull because you need power. You need meta. You don't want to be a loser, right? Pull. Spend money also, when you lose the fifty fifty. Just keep pulling for M6. Trust. She's the best unit...
crackhead theory:
In order to counteract Soldier 11 completely eating the dirt, her story with the Obol Squad might come after the idol faction (so maybe like 1.7 or later) and then they'll give her some kinda light rework, shift her to the limited banner and then replace her standard banner slot with another one of her squad members or even one of the earlier limited agents.
JUST AN INSANELY COPIUM FUELED THEORY THO
Hey hoyo. Wheres the ether agents? So far theres a whole bunch of every other element but exactly 2 for ether
I was just finished leveling S11 on my alt. and about to farm disc when they announced Evelyn. Now I'm unsure should I keep building her.
Well you can farm disk's ,
The new deadly assault and floor 50 of the tower showed me that my roster really struggles with fire coverage. I have started to get lucy ready (with the astral voice set) and Evelyn will be joining soon enough
That is also the reason why I did not pull for Qingyi or Jane because I have a good Anby and Piper. I will pull for Astra but skip on Evelyn most likely.
Only interested in Evelyn, but I keep reading that Astra is a healer unit with her Ultimate. Is this bs? I skipped Caesar and it's the only regret I have due to her survivability boost for end game. I dont want to make the same mistake again. I don't have the time or energy to get good.
im a player who came back at 1.4 after losing a 50/50 on jane doe i want both astra and evelyn but jane doe will rerun soon so i am pulling for only evelyn jane do rerun and yanagi rerun is it possible to do that and if so can u do a guide on how to collect as much pulls as possible
I want both Astra and Evelyn (I don't have S11), but because Miyabi and her W-engine were stubborn and cost me a fair amount of pulls, unless I'm lucky, I get one 50/50 and it has to be on Astra. (this isn't counting polys between now and then, it could give me another shot)
Got M2 Solider 11 but not a huge fan of her gameplay so might get Evelynn. Maybe just wait and see what the banner after is first though, 100% pulling for one of the idol characters when they come
5:05 this is a funny game physics moment
I would love it if every banner was like what we have now with both limited characters running the full 6 weeks, but I agree it seems more like a special situation bc Haramasa is free and they know most people were going to want to skip for Miyabi anyways.
Day by day I'm questioning S11's existence... We don't even have any lore drops on Obol squad beside ones from her agent story
I'm going to guess that Trigger (or someone else on Obol) is going to provide a buff that benefits S11 to bring her up.
Power Creeping S11 before her faction is crazy.
My Obol Squad headcanon will bring a Defense Fire agent in a mecha suit, a Physical Stunner that uses ranged attacks (sniper or HMG), and an Electric Anomaly hacker/ECM.
Right now planning on waiting for more info on them and either choosing to pull for them or go for M1 Miyabi
since have 13 pulls + over 9000 Polychromes already after getting Miabiy and her weapon
Evelyn is sort of more tempting because no fire DPS on account, though could get once I get 32 more standard tapes though honestly right now feeling like picking up Rina instead(since currently only missing of said selection Solider 11, rina and Nekomiya) and I have Rina and Neko W engines so they do sort of make more sense even if missing a fire DPS.
isn’t it confirmed that all limited banners for all hoyo games will be available throughout the entire patch now? like hsr starting in 2.0 all limited banners will be available throughout the entire patch
I got S11 trying to pull MIyabi and I love her (still got MIyabi and her wengine btw). Caesar and Lucy are on her team and she does wonders, even if I pull for evelyn I can just switch between the two on that team.
I suspect ultimate dependant attack characters in the future will have more damage and will depend on units that generate decibels off turn.
I got fire agents but not as DPS but I can work around that ( I don't have the following Fire agents --> S11 and Lighter ).
As for ( Ether Element ) I only have Nicole so.... you know were I'm going with this 😂😅
My Anton I maxed out is in shambles. I run him sometimes with Harumasa to cop and raise crit on ult, but it's no contest.
Even though I got Miyabi M0W1 I am still holding out for a Ellen Rerun...maybe 1.5??? Pls... let it be 1.5!
It feels like they're trying to create a bigger thing out of reruns so that when they do come, everyone is desperate for them.
Astra is a meta waifu and Evelyn is a mega waifu. I’m almost certainly pulling for Astra first. Evelyn, while her gameplay leaks and design look a little better to me, I will pull Astra first. Astra sounds so universally useful and meta, plus I still think she is hot…just not as hot as Evelyn. If I get lucky with Astra pulls and win 5050 and get her early I will not pull weapons and just go for Evelyn.
Fr, honestly I'm gonna skip miyabi's w-engine just for a chance to get them both (miyabi is destroying everything anyway). I'm tempted to get evelyn first because whip mommy, but Astra looks too good to miss out on (especially since I'm caesar-less), so I'll probably start with her.
@ it took me 170 pulls to get Miyabi and I only pay for the cheap things. It was rough and a bit frustrating. I am set on not becoming a whale even if I could technically do it a little. I’d rather be responsible with my money. This is why I pretty much never pull for engines. Now that we can walk around as our characters, getting a character has more weight to it.
@conradsmith9441 I feel you, I lost 50/50 to nekomata and then got miyabi, a painful 150 or so pulls. Had to skip lighter for the fox vergil, but I like her animations and playstyle too much to miss out on her. I'll wait for her rerun to get her w-engine if there aren't any character I want in that moment.
From what I hear the banner change is supposed to happen to all 3 games, and it wasn't announced as an event like HSR's triple rerun event, so it should be permanent
I wish I was even slightly excited for either of these two. I'll have to see their kits and then the promo material. I was talking with a friend today with how I really had no interest in Ellen from an initial visual standpoint. Sharkgirl, okay neat. Then I got to know her and I'm like "Well fuck now I need her", Jane was the first character I knew I wantd from the get go. I like the rat. Burnice was more a "Well I didn't get Caesar that I wanted for meta reasons, might at well get Burnice to make my jane team nuclear". tl;dr I hope I like these ladies more when I see more of them.
7:39 Oh no! You got me!
Started building S11 for the sake of 3rd team (came clutch with new endgame mode ngl) and I also have Koleda and Lighter. Evelyn reveal is my first "gooner" moment but now I feel bad for ditching S11 one day... but going to have as much fun with her as I can before Eve comes home.
My read is about the same as yours; Astra will likely be the meta choice between the two. But… GOD Evelyn is so pretty. Like it’s ridiculous. And she seems to be voiced by one of my favorite VAs, Elizabeth Maxwell. Why must I already have fire covered by Burnice and S11!
On a slightly related note; the Astral Voice disc set technically has a higher ceiling for its buff than Swing Jazz, with three stacks of Astral granting a 24% buff vs Swing Jazz’s 15%. Swing Jazz is still a lot easier to set up though, so I’ll probably stick with it.
I'm in the same boat.
"If you're meta player you need to be insane to skip the first limited S-rank support that fits into any team comp unconditionally with 1500 ATK buff loaded with quick assists, otherwise you'll get tired of seeing her in every team comp recommendation".
But oh boi they cooked with Evelyn. Ultimate with armpit zoom followed by whole length thigh and leg zoom. Chain attack with giant spandex ass in your face. Fingers explosion followed by accentuated booba shake. Astra is an innocent class rep and Evelyn is a sex predator at this point, who can give Jane a fair fight.
as for me -- i need coverage on most elements, i dont have any fire units that are decently built except Lucy. i have a fresh Koleda, and no S11 so i think ill choose Evelyn from an account's perspective. I also dont have Ether except just NIcole
+ Evelyn's aboba. it wins
Really hope they give the Obol squad some love. Astra and Evelyn seem useful and effective but I'll stick with my S11.
Gonna wait for more info on them before I make a hard call, but if Astra does work with everyone I might pick her up. I didn't pick up Zhu Yuan, so my ether selection is kinda lackluster. At the same time, I do have Koleda and Lucy. Evelyn could slot into a nice fire team. However, I am going to have my free S rank for 300 pulls on the standard banner coming up. I could just get Soldier 11 from that and then get Astra. Obviously, Soldier 11 won't be as powerful as Evelyn, but she'd be good enough to give me a nice fire team for when I need one (like the current Deadly Assault.)
My dreams came true of having a full section 6 team with their signatures (minus harumasa) so now im kinda lost
Ill probably go for astra since i already have a soldier 11 with her weapon if if they are still lvl1
Either way my days of saving polys are finally done
Maybe its a skill issue on my part, but I couldn't clear deadly assount with a well built Soldier 11, Ceasar and Lucy. Can't even break the A rank on Pompey which is suposed to be a good matchup
I have M6 Nicole, so Astra’s value is severely diminished. I never snagged Solder 11, so I’m definitely going to pull for Evelyn.
But the rumor is retuning banners are hitting with the next update: Astra/Ellen & Evelyn/Zhu Yuan.
I grabbed Ellen and lost 50/50 for Zhu Yuan. Now I’m struggling to decide how to pull as an ALG.
Hopefully saving since Miyabi’s release will bring me luck, but I’m up for a 50/50 next S-rank pull.
Astra is the closest character to *redacted* faction and i have a feeling she'll be a hsr robin counterpart in zzz. If she do, i might have to pull for her since robin is a game changer for my hsr account
Honestly i wouldn't drop Solider 11 just yet. I thought with Miyabi now out my Ellen wouldn't see any use on my account anymore but with the new endgame mode Deadly Assult where we currently have 2 bosses with Ice weakness i couldn't be more wrong. So in the future where we need 2 Fire dmg dealers Soldier 11 will still see usage.
I planned out 3 teams of mine and now I'm waiting on Qingyi and Ceasar's reruns
Will probably pick up Astra (Qingyi/Astra/Zhu Yuan sounds hype), and Evelyn will need to really knock my socks off to get my attention. I am a S11 haver after all
i might pick up astra yao if im lucky enough, if shes going to be good for anomaly teams. ill have to wait and see for confirmation on that but 1.5 will probably just be a skip patch for me which is GREAT, because my miyabi pulls were an absolute disaster (lost the 50/50, lost the weapon at hard pity, and had to go to hard pity AGAIN to get her s1) praying for some average luck because thats now 5 losses in a row after my last streak of…16 losses. do i start a yt channel called Below Average Luck Gamer? lol
Do it, I believe in you.
Astra is super tempting, but Evelyn will be my easiest skip of all the banners we've had so far. I've done my fair share of grinding out my Soldier 11 and have done perfectly fine with tackling late-stage enemies in a quick manner. Plus, after going all out on Miyabi and Harumasa, I think I need some time to simply recover, haha...
I chose S11 out of the 300 standard banner pulls...
S11 definitely came out way too early. She doesn't even have her final friendship mission to max out her friend level.
I think it's a shame to see a new fire attack agent when we already have one.
But I'll definitely get Evelyn.
Since I lost my 50/50 on Miyabi, I'm planning on saving for Yao + Evelyn. Since I already own Burnice (who I use with a Jane+Caesar comp) do you think it'd be a waste to get another fire "dps"?
I wonder what the deal is with Soldier 11 being added ao early and seems to be last to get any finished content. I wonder if something happened during development or if there is a good story related reason for this
Tbh I wasn't originally gonna pull for Miyabi since her character isn't that interesting to me overall, however ended up getting her in a single 10 pull so then wasted all my so far saved poly for her w-engine which still haven't got. Though I was more or less gonna skip the 1.5 banners in leiu of waiting for Zhu Yuan to rerun, but then we had the game awards trailer and the last section of the 1.4 story that cemented that I'll begrudgingly pull definitely for Evelyn cause she's 100% waifu (perhaps up there with Zhu Yuan and Caesar but time will tell) and possibly for Astra depending on how good she turns out to be. If she's not massively better than Nicole I may skip her but will have to see
As someone new to the game and also lost to S11 (LMAO so IRONIC) i am depressed lol. So would like more about Astra
I need them both. Can't ever afford to pull W-engines if ZZZ is never going to give me a few patches I can skip pulling for characters, lol.
I have M1 Soldier 11. Not that it was _planned_ but anyway. No shot i spend on Eve, no matter how nice she looks. Astra... maybe. Depends. I just lost my 50/50 on Miyabi, means it will be close, getting her and basically impossible getting her Engine. So i doubt I will have stuff over for her, though it would be nice getting another universal Support. I already have trouble with Lucy being everywhere.
Your decision to pull involves considering the value that Astra brings to the team.
I pull cos i need the heal that Astra provides so i can slot her in my Miyabi team thus freeing up Caesar.
We are not the same.
She’s a standard banner dps. She was always going to get replaced. Tired of getting her in my pulls because I really don’t care to play her but she’s the only fire attack dps we have so I was kind of pushed into building her as I skipped Jane and Zhu Yuan. The moment Eve drops S11 is perma benched for me.
Chaotic Fried Rice OR Evelyn? No, wrong, BOTH. (If I can swing it. Miyabi came home in few enough pulls that I felt confident trying for her Wengine, and I got that, and now I'm back to Hoard Mode for the next patch, so I'm feeling lucky.)
Hopefully Idol Group will be the faction after these two, since they'll be easy skips I can stock up on.