Pay attention to the title folks and understand the video scope. Im tackling ‘who God is’ and not THAT God is. It’s a video aimed at deists and theists and not atheists (though I’m happy for any listening in). For something for the atheists, I made 2 videos entitle God and Gunfighting. There I lay out why belief in God is the most logical worldview. For those grumpy right now, I got you this balloon 🎈 (will not show if you are 92 years old and reading this on a blackberry), so just imagine a beautiful, round balloon. God & Gunfighting pt1: ruclips.net/video/YFTBVoxYZ2w/видео.html God & Gunfighting pt2: ruclips.net/video/xg2ZCnAZPGI/видео.html
David LaRue same question. How can you believe in Christianity but not God? Christianity is a follower of Christ (it’s in the name). Christ IS God. What are the things that give you a hesitancy to believe in God? (Honest question)
"What is worth LIVING for?"..... and, "What is worth FIGHTING for?" .... and "What is worth DYING for?".... If you don't have these answers, at the ready, then you may not really be prepared to take up arms.
Then you've never heard any counter arguments. It falls apart in the first premise. It's just a rudimentary cosmological argument and all of them have been debunked a million times. If you want to keep your faith, don't look into it. If your love of truth is stronger than your love of god however, do. Tough choice I know and you probably think they're one and the same. I chose truth so until actual evidence for god is presented I'll remain in the non believer camp.
@@TheTurinturumbar Cornelius Van til said the proof that the Bible is true is that if the Bible was not true you couldn’t know anything at all. Faith in the true and living God is the beginning of all logic and reason. Only the Christian worldview has the pre-conditions of intelligibility. I understand you have done a little bit of study but nowhere near enough I would be happy to help you understand biblical philosophy.
Amen Brother. As a fellow Infantryman I'm glad that a fellow Grunt with your standing and caliber talks about this. A lot of people dont realize that a lot if us are God Fearing individuals with a drive to be good honest Christians.
And here I thought the purpose of life was "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." But your idea sounds much better.
John Lovell thank YOU for standing up for Jesus..................He did for you, I and EVERY Christian that has called Him Lord and Savior. "Faith is believing in the promises of God and acting on them." That strong statement was made many years ago by one my very best friends in life, Rev. Hugh Harbort. He is our retired Pastor at our church. He served as our Pastor, not preacher there is a BIG difference, for 37-1/2 years. "Truth is hate to those that hate the truth." I read this quote years ago and use it in the closing of my emails along with 2 Chronicles 7:14. I am 67-1/2 years young, I have been a Christian for 54-1/2 years. Jesus is the ONLY way to the Heaven of the Holy Bible plus on the other side of that coin there is only one other eternal destination...................eternity in Hell. Keep up the great videos plus within your work and you sphere of influence stand for Jesus, for again He stood for us, for He was the ultimate "Warrior Poet"! One more thing thank you for your service to this The Greatest Nation On Earth, by the Grace Of God. I am a sixth generation Georgian.
Absolutely amazing! I'm a Christian myself, and I love how you take it seriously, but with such grace and love towards our neighbors. I love the runnin' and gunnin' training videos, but this "pause" and "30,000 ft view" is too important to pass up, and I thoroughly enjoyed it as well. God bless!
Where was the saving of your soul part? When the rich young ruler came to Jesus asking what must he do to inherit eternal life what did Jesus tell him? I didn’t hear this in the video.
“What kind of king makes Himself nothing for His people? The Mighty one. What kind of king lets His people humiliate and beat Him until He is unrecognizable and is still able to hold His head high? The Merciful one. What kind of king hangs Himself on a cross for his people? The Righteous one. And because He has done this for us I will make my life a living sacrifice unto Him.” His name is above all others His name is JESUS!
There is the flaw, HE put himself through hell on a stick so we no longer have to ourselves. Yet humans still insist in put ourselves and each other through misery.
@@krispalermo8133 he didnt die so you could have a better life on this earth, he died so you could be comforted knowing when you die you will be with him forever in perfection if you was born again, its like you dont put a parachute on for the flight, you put it on for the jump.
You really believe all that? If you didn’t believe in Zeus thousands of years ago you were crazy. Now it’s Jesus and some god that makes you suffer and kiss his ass or go to hell. LIKE HOW DO YOU PEOPLE BELIEVE ALL THIS SHIT. ITS 2020, WE DONT NEED THIS TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD AROUND US
Faith is a very powerful thing but what makes it valid is the Lord for if God is with us then who could ever stop us. This allows his to speak with such confidence. Man I swear this dude is like a modern day David
Nothing but respect for you, John. In this cancel culture environment you're shamelessly standing up for what you believe and getting people thinking. Love it!
"I want to resist the spirit of the age that say's 'Hey, don't talk about money, politics, religion'"... I couldn't agree more, John. Many of times I have heard the same thing. I believe that because these important topics to converse about have been suppressed, we now have this society that does not know how to handle feelings, or thoughts on some of the most influential factors in our lives. Prime example is us millennials (and I cringe admitting I am in that group lol). Love the videos, keep em coming!
People who do not truly have God in their hearts follow their politics as their social religion. Almost no one wants to think they have been wrong or miss lead in what they think and believe in. Those two sentences can cause a lot of social problems with people. I have provoke a lot of arguments cause of it. Such as some Christian churches teaches that if other churches that don't follow their dogma are not true believers and are going to hell cause of that. Or the concept of the Chosen People.... Sadly too many follow politics as a cult of personality or a give party without looking really at the policy being promoted.
I'm a veteran all the way from Belfast in Ireland John, and it is great to hear your message today!🙏 For me the world is far too breath taking, beautiful and perfect to just be an accident! I only have to look into my daughters eyes to see how incredible God is! I will be watching and supporting you brother, keep up the good work and God bless 🙌
Something tells me this might get you more subs than you loose. Thanks for stickin' up for the Lord brother. On a side note, i just saw a W.P.S. sticker on a car where I live in Santa Cruz Co. Ca. Guess I better get with the program!
I GOTTA SAY THIS! I'm a 59 year old cowboy/trucker/rowdy Christian that never took the time to learn to shoot, hunt ,fish,but love all the outdoorsy stuff I can get. You are one of the greatest inspirations when come to faith, family and country. I"mso glad I got a connection through utube and hope to subscribe to WPN when $ allows. I'd like to attend your classes when schedule and money allows. How ever, all that being said to say... I'm a critical sceptic on who I throw in with ,and your the "DUDE"(your word, wasn't ever a fan back in the day) I'd walk through glass for. Your spot on , articulate and entertaining funny Ina great way. GOD(JESUS)IS Surely your guide post. Your my "DUDE HERO ", keep up the fight and great work💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Thank you and your service Buds for your service!!!🎉
Another atheist here! I must say, atheist conversations get really old, really fast. Many will disregard a believer's thoughts, insights, and even feelings, based on nothing other than their belief in God. But there's so much more content in what I believe is "literally the most important question" (words I have used many times in my life regarding this topic, verbatim!). I'm not sure I can even quantify how much I appreciate that the conversation is willing to be had by people I admire and respect. So thank you for having the courage to speak with us about this. I wish more people in my life had taken it as seriously.
I am more of an agnostic. I don't believe in God but am more than willing to accept a surprise when I die. I think if there is a God he/she/it is not like how we imagine it as a dude in the sky shaking his head at you as you "tickle your pickle" alone in your room. I respect the good that religion does though and if it is a source of comfort and strength in your life I am happy for you.
Get into the deep Athiest talks. Evolution, the cosmos, quantum physics for lamens. Things like that. It’s mind bending stuff and all fact based and open ended until we find all the answers. Which we won’t. Amazing we are here. Amazing what could be out there.
@@nunyabizznas9051 This is actually really surprising: ruclips.net/video/gpStPNAB7Cw/видео.html I was not expecting this from Brian Greene. I prejudged him as a one-note guy, and he has something to say about that exact prejudice, and it's really enlightening.
I believe total commitment to truth, no matter where it leads you, will lead you to Christ. The reason I believe that is because I see a lot of atheists who have been turned off God by his "so called" followers usually end up finding God again when they are brutally honest with themselves and others. I'm a Christian and I get why so many have turned from Christ. The virtue signaling of Christians and the endless theological debates and bible lawyering can turn anyone off. Fortunately it's not about men. It's about what is good beautiful and true. It's like the laughter of a child. It's just perfect when you see it and cannot be put into words.
Friend, a godless world equates absolute meaninglessness, and the act of 'creating one's own meaning' is pretty futile, although secular sociologists will say taht's what our cultures have done... It's not true. Meaning comes from the reality that God exists, He's infinite in wisdom and thus there is infinite purposefullness in his creation. I invite you to know Him and find out His purpose for you; Jeremiah 29:13, ephesians 2:10; www.HeHasAnswers.com God bless you!
@@drewdavidson4264 I've listened to this at least 7 times, CS power packs so much into language and it's so powerful it makes it really hard to retain and recite, at least for me and most CS Lewis fans I know. ruclips.net/video/bgwq09sIpLQ/видео.html ..........Good Luck Drew :-)
Man, this was so refreshing to watch. Thank you for being a man who is proud of being a Christian. Like you mentioned, in our current times it feels as if everyone is so afraid of not seeming cool, or not wanting to be offensive to mainstream society. A good example for myself, is that every Christmas, ever since I was little, I would just say Merry Christmas, and I wouldn't think twice about it, because what else would I say (I grew up in a Christian Family). Now that I've worked in a lot of corporate environments for several years, and kinda became conditioned to act "politically correct" and agreeable, this last Christmas, I caught myself trying to say weird stuff like "Happy Holidays" instead. I thought to myself "well, I wonder if anyone actually cares? does it matter at all? After some thought, I decided, "screw your happy holidays, Jesus is the reason for the Season in the first place, if someone wants to feel offended, then too bad." I was so worried about everyone else's feelings and beliefs, that I started to forget my own. So, glad to see other people out there who can be a Christian not only through faith, but also by using some amounts of logic too, and then be brave enough to post what they believe on RUclips, knowing there could be consequences (subscriber loss, financial loss). God bless, and nuff respect John!
I've never said happy holidays or any other crap like that, always merry Christmas, and that puts the decision on the other person, they can either say thank you and say it back or tell me they don't celebrate Christmas, to which I would say well whatever holiday you celebrate, I hope it is great! If someone gets angry, just kill them with kindness....I've had someone get so angry at me because they were being so rude and disrespectful and all I did was smile and say have a great day, to which they replied "how dare you say have a great day!" Lmao, what are they going to do, complain to corporate that I was being too nice?
I mean being honest I don't believe in God. However this didn't piss me off. I found it quite insightful and interesting. It doesn't make me a believer but it's important to keep an open mind and to consider all things.
LOVE that you can hear a different idea without getting ticked off. It's a great sign of intellectual and emotional maturity. Your atheism does not piss me off either and we can calmly chat and play nice 👊
I read too much sometimes. This is the best I’ve ever found. One Universal Creator Being Truth is His Name Creative being personified, no fear no hatred Image of the undying, beyond birth,self existent By the Gurus Grace True in the primal beginning. True throughout the ages True here and now Nanak says it will be true forever. This is the Mul Mantra from Japji Sahib in Sikh scripture. I liked the description of what in Christianity calls the Father. I suggest the entirety of Japji is really worth a read. Quite the eye opener. Also, the Sikhs were warriors, wrote poetry. Christ is an enlightened being for them also.
scottpewpew Truthfully Scott, God is already working on bringing you into the fold. Your very enlightening attitude shows you are a great person. I’m not trying to push Christianity down your throat. Personally I was a evil person until I got saved, I have seen and done things I never thought I could get forgiveness for but the whole time I just needed to admit my sins to God. Christ died on the cross to pay my sin Debt. My wish for you is that you stay open minded to the idea of that. Thanks for your time, and remember we are only human and we all sin everyday.
If you want to listen to anyone on RUclips that will really cause you to examine your belief system whether it’s Christian or Atheism; Watch any 5 (or hopefully more) Ravi Zacharias debates or conferences.
This is how it used to be, how WPS started. They’ve been drifting away for a while now, caught up in the $$$. Glad to see they are checking themselves.
By far my most enjoyed video. I appreciate you, Jon, for being the man you are because you have encouraged me to be a better man for my friends and family in both the sense of protection but also compassion. Don't stop doing what you're doing. God bless you brother. "You - Warrior Poet, who was dead, now stand. I have won your freedom" ... And He held out a pierced hand.
John, as a brother Christian, we know God’s Word says Creation alone speaks of the Creator! Glad to see a deep thinking video, not just “run & gun” (though I like running and gunning, lol)!
All of creation declares God's majesty and glory(Psam 19, Roman's 1). But we also know who God is through His special revelation which is His word... The Bible(2 Tim. 3:16)
God allows us to suffer. He waiting for thy neighbors to love. You allow our rights and freedoms to be taken yet you a Christian? You guys always say; NOT MY RIGHTS!! Go take the neighbors. That is ok.
@@GinEric84 You are correct, as a christian, I believe that the bible itself testifies of the existence of God, but only to the saved, having the Holy Spirit, can understand it on a spiritual level. It is absolutely a circular argument to the unsaved.
I have always said that I would rather spend my life serving God and discover one day that I was wrong than to choose not to serve Him and find out I was wrong. My theory has always been, that I have so much more to gain by serving my Lord and Savior. How do you put a price tag on the kingdom of Heaven?
That is the beauty of free will. Just like with small children and Santa Claus. I dont rely on seeing is believing but rather believing is seeing. My faith in Him allows me to lay eyes on the prize. Again, if I'm wrong, then I dont want to be right.
Yeah, that’s how I feel about Santa Claus!! As long as I believe, I will keep getting presents under my tree. His reindeer still eat the carrots I leave for them, so I know the fat man exists.
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:” Romans 3:23-24 KJB. “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,” Ephesians 1:13 KJB. Trust and believe the gospel of grace today. He died for our sins. Amen John awesome video
Wow very interesting video and change of pace. Wont lie I got burnt out on tactical knowledge. I watch lots of tactical stuff and do hands on training this was very interesting conversation. I applaud your courage for speaking your mind. Bravo.
Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords. He is my Rock and my Salvation. He put me here to serve Him and to protect others. By God's grace, I will be faithful to my calling.
@@mariasgreene I guess that'd be great for you, since you wouldn't be willing to be good so as to get to heaven. Much preferable everyone goes to hell in oblivion.
HighSpeedNoDrag Yes, I hear this as an argument from Muslims often. English is a Germanic language, the "j" is pronounced like a "y". ruclips.net/video/nMMW2itrReI/видео.html
Pretty dope! Thanks for using your platform to share these thoughts. Praying that the revelation of Christ become real to unbelievers, and a renewed faith for stagnant saints! Love your works brother✊🏾
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” John 1:1. “The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth”. John 1:14
Amen 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 10:30 I and my Father are one.
@@archimedes7436 I haven't found one yet that prides itself so much on being intellectually, spiritually, and physically active. It's all about protecting those you care for the most.
You got a really cool set up, sir. One would think you'd just stick to what draws the most people (guns, tactics, etc) and not gamble with upsetting your viewers. But you leave your comfort zone and talk about something that very well might, as you say, cause people to unsubscribe to your channel. In todays world, that's the most Christ-like attribute I've ever seen. "Whoever acknowledges Me before others, I will also acknowledge before My Father in Heaven." Matthew 10:32
What are you talking about lol most of his viewers are more than likely gun owners or pro-guns. Which are most likely conservative. Which most likely believe in god. I support guns, but im democratic and dont believe in god. I know what im getting myself into when i stay on his channel which i would think most people do. I just think that most of his viewers will nit be upset lol
@@lunv1888 LMAO i was thinking the exact same thing. "God, Guns, and Freedom!" or to summarize "Murica!". Stepping out...think before you speak i reckon. Im actually a gun owning conservative myself but disagree w what OP said. However im a little skeptical on the God part. Not that i dont believe, just the origin is where i tend to falter. Christianity and other popular religions are just a tad bit sketchy for me and ive recently landed on the fence after being raised Baptist. However, i strongly disagree about the "one true religion" idea. You can't say that only Christian's will be saved and all others condemned. There are millions who have never even been exposed to Christianity, so how could they even follow and believe in someone whom they have never heard of. Most religions seem to have the basics in common, and i feel that is what matters the most. Our basic understanding of right and wrong, and good and evil. The choice is ours, and we all must walk our own road. Really like this channel btw. Lots of good shit here. Plus William Wallace, i mean cmon lol.
A few years back I was invited to a talk by the last man on the moon. He spoke for three hours and the 20 or so folks in the room did not make a move (glued to their seats) Gêne Cernan made it abundantly clear that there was a higher supreme being that created the Earth and universe and it was perfectly clear to him when looking at the Earth in all of its beauty from the surface of the moon. He allowed it was a total spiritual experience. Gene is no longer with us so he is with our father now. What a guy !
@KamekoBruns you probably have not understood the story very well, the slaughterhouse was the result of human beings falling into sin and bringing about death and all its forms. We can basically see only the shadow of the beauty of paradise which does not exist at the moment.
Atheist here. Still love your self defense content, so an obligatory 'agree to disagree' from me on this particular issue. I don't believe that just because someone doesn't believe every exact thing I do means I should throw away the other extremely relevant information you provide.
@@WarriorPoetSociety Hey! Appreciate the reply. Not sure if you're too busy with other projects right now (probably), but I was wondering if you had ever discussed with anyone in the firearms community who 'doesn't believe' WHY they are pro second amendment? I tend to hear a lot of people say that the second amendment is a 'God given' right, but what about the people who don't follow that train of thought? I think you'll find it very interesting and productive. I personally don't think I'm quite the person to represent that position, but I have graised on the works of John Locke to get where I am ideologically.
Gospel of Matthew “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
This is my favorite scripture. Look at the next line: "Upon these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." All the rest of the Bible, all the rest of Jesus' life, all of history, all the rest of our lives, all of good and evil, unpacks from following them, or ignoring them.
Matthew didn't record Jesus's full statement, but Luke did. The first half of the greatest commandment is "Hear O Israel, the Lord your God, the Lord is One." You can't have love without defining love. Thus the first half of the commandment defines love, and sets the way in which we ought to see God in all these things. As One.
There was a time when the curious would sit over a beer and have a deep discussion regarding the purpose and meaning of all what we experience. ie: C.S. Lewis and G.K Chesterton. Today’s world I’d be cautious wearing a red hat to thanksgiving...🤠 Great channel, can’t wait for the next video. God Bless!
John, you're one of very few RUclips "celebs" that I would truly like to meet. God Bless you and yours. Airborne Reeeeeconnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - John 1:1. Word is communication/information/instructions, correct?
Actually most believe jesus is the word in john 1:1. Jesus is a transliteration. The actual name is Yahshua which is closer to Joshua but Jesus is from the Greek word Iesous then translated to Latin as Iesus
@@Matthew-777 Yes! Yahshua was the walking Torah! The walking truth, God in the Flesh walking out the Torah. Where in the world does it make sense for half of a book to apply to one group of people and the other to apply to another group? It doesn't make sense! We need to read our Bibles and learn from Yahweh! PS. I'm not a Jew I am a child of Israel. Jesus said. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
“Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him."” John 14:6-7
Lee L The premise that people today need the biblical way, truth and life is false. The context of Jesus being the way was limited to old covenant Israelites in the days leading up to the end of the old covenant religious system and temple community. Only old covenant Israelites were lost and needed Jesus to be the way. Only old covenant Israelites needed the truth to set them free from the curse of the law. And only Israelites were dead under the law and needed life through Christ’s new covenant. Instead of reading ourselves into scriptures limited to a first century Israelite context, we can choose to find our own way in life. We can discover our own truths and we can lead productive, fulfilling and meaningful lives without religious delusions.
@John Jesus of Nazareth couldn't have existed; Nazareth wasn't established until centuries after "Jesus" was allegedly crucified. The only settlements _within miles_ of where Nazareth would eventually be were small hamlets, where everyone would have been related to or personally known him. So these relatives and friends, in a hamlet too small to even have a temple, decided to throw a guy they knew from a mountain in a region with no mountain or cliff to throw him from...riiiight. Josephus' brief mentions of a cult and its leader support that and nothing more. By your nonsensical "reasoning", magic, wizards, and water spirits are real too because "king Arthur" actually existed.
As a person who grew up Christian then steered a hard 180° toward Atheism in my early teenage years and now tends to identify as Agnostic this was the most compelling argument and conversation with reason I've ever heard a Christian or person of faith make and I absolutely took something from this. He wasn't completely hardcore about anything and left the questions as compelling questions rather than set in stone answers that he's just repeating, it especially helped with the way he shot the video and how I could look him directly in the eyes the whole time and see if there's any sense of "brainwashing" for lack of a better term that I see in some other people of faith. I could tell that he's thought about this and has come to a conclusion whether that's by starting off neutral or by unconsciously finding pieces that already fit the narrative the point is that he's looked at various different angles and has taken them into account. This was a great video
This video was awesome, I would love to see more of these poet videos rather than 90% warrior, it really takes more 50/50. What's the point of wanting to defend your life or other's lives if you have no purpose in the first place? And I love hearing someone speak out about that.
Watched for a long time. Always thought you were a strait up Dude! This was an Awesome , Honest , Heartfelt video! Watch All, do not Comment much. You did this with no smoke up the skirt, and I truly appreciate it. Thank you
I’m going to start at the 2:30 mark, and to preface this I just want to say I like what you do as a channel and you seem like a cool guy. I don’t mean anything said here to be harsh or have a harsh tone. 2:30 to 3:00 - “I want to logically deduce “who is god’, using just reason alone. And that's the ambition that we’re going for. I’m going to have to make a few generalizations, but hopefully we will be able to see the forest through the trees so we’re not going to be super up close on any detail. Any one point, if pressed, I could even turn around and argue against it. That’s just good critical thought, and I’m super excited about airtight logic and reason these are the things that were going to be using cause were not just poets, but let's be scientists as well. Well trained minds and all that jazz.” After watching this video I believe there was no airtight logic, reason, or science. I say this sincerely and with concern as someone with degrees in biology, psychology, neuroscience, philosophy, and education. I’m not concerned with your conclusion but more how you got there. I worry about the message you send to people when you talk like this. Which is not me saying I think you should stop, these types of videos are often my favorite, and I would prefer they never stop. 3:00 “So first off we start with the idea that there is some God” So no we don’t. We never start with the acceptance of a belief if we are just using logic/reason. I actually think you know that because you give support for your belief in the next sentence. So I’m not trying to explain that to you but it's an important point to make going forward. “We know that because the universe isn’t going to create itself, there is everything. It didn’t just all make itself, the universe would have to already exist to cause itself. So this is the idea that an ex-nihilo creation isn’t possible without intervention. And this is just fallacious. It’s using the logic of stuff on non-stuff. We have no idea of the properties of nothingness or if nothingness even has properties. So there is no evidence that indicates the universe couldn’t create itself ex-nihilo, that matter and energy couldn’t come into existence from nothing (in fact there is some very “meh” evidence to support it) and there is no strong proof against an eternal universe. I know you don’t believe these things to be true but they are. I would encourage you to look into these things with the scientific mindset of proving your current beliefs to be false and see if anything changes. “If there is a creation there must be a creator if there is a design there must be a designer if there is moral law there must be a moral law giver.” While I agree with all of these statements for the most part they are all tautological. They are true by definition and are therefore meaningless. What’s in question here is if there IS creation, design, and moral law. I would submit there is no evidence to suggest there is. 3:25 “This god, I believe, would have imbued us with a conscience, everyone has this internal concept of right vs wrong (and all of us know that we have not lived up to that standard of right and wrong). And so since we all have that internal mechanism, that “hey you should do the right thing” kind of thing, a conscience. I believe that that is something that god would have given us and instilled in us. That’s not a big hard leap to make.” So 2 points I want to make here. First I would agree that there is in fact no hard leap to make IF you already accept that the christian god is real and he created humans. It says as much in the bible; he wrote it on your heart. If not your job then becomes the following 1) prove all humans have a universal internal concept of right vs wrong. 2) prove a god exists. Then depending on the god support that that god imbued us with that concept (the christian god has it built in). The second point I want to make, which I already alluded to, is that it's not so clear that everyone DOES have some internal concept of right vs wrong. And if they do it's certainly not universal or wholly conserved person to person. I say universal only to mean we’re all playing by the same rule book. Which we clearly are not. Now obviously something is going on with us where we have feeling of mistreatment and happiness etc, but if we are going to be scientific about this, if we are going to be logical and use reason we have to take this a lot slower. 3:55 - “Furthermore we’re communicators, right, even animals communicate. So I would expect that god, the author and creator of everything. Who created communication would also be able to communicate and again I don’t that’s a far reach.” So again I agree we humans, and animals, communicate. And I certainly would also expect the creator of everything to have the ability to communicate, if not to the creation directly then at least in some general sense. Though it's not logically necessary. But honestly I’m not sure what point you were trying to make with this one I assume it will come later. 4:13 - “Also I notice meticulous design, and all these symbiotic systems work together. And look whether it's in biology, down to the atom, and all these things working together in perfect harmony. Our bodies, our systems of systems. And even cosmologically, you look out in the solar system, I mean 1 degree difference of the earth and we’d all burn up or freeze to death. The world, the universe, our bodies, all of our ecosystems are meticulously designed.” So at this now we are entering the point of the video which prompted me to respond, so naturally this is where we REALLY disagree. The fact of the matter is that you infer design without a good reason. And the reasons for that inference given here are not correct. These things do not work together in perfect harmony, there is more chaos than order in most of these things. 1 degree of anything regarding the earth would NOT result in the catastrophes mentioned. And even if that were the case (it is as a matter fact not) it would not suggest design. My favorite analogy for this is the rain puddle that marvels at how meticulously designed he is for the home it was born into. But the bigger point here is that EITHER WAY it does not support “design”. Bad designs exist, in fact one might argue they are the most numerous type of design. So flawless or flawed or anywhere on the scale one cannot logically deduce that it was designed. And if someone points out a flaw in the “design” a contestor needs only argue “well that’s part of the design” making this idea unfalsifiable. So it’s not deduction, it is not logical, and it’s unfalsifiable which makes it not scientific. I’m not going to do the rest of the video as deeply, simply because I want to live my life and I’ve already written 3 pages haha but I did watch it and I want to hit on a few points The god that creates the cosmos and wants to communicate in book form can do so in direct form. If the ad-men could beam messages into your head they would. The idea that you would expect a book is silly. For most of human history judeo-christian religion didn’t exist, and you are ignoring all other religions before that time and all the contemporary ones that don’t have a clear connection to Jesus or the bible. Many existed longer than all the religions you mention and still do. As such this is just plain data picking which makes it not a “big deal”… it makes it fraud almost… I mean if I did anything like this I would have been kicked out of my capstone studies. And I don’t think you mean to do this but it shows your mindset when thinking about this stuff so I would just reflect on that. We don’t know if people have more books written about Jesus than any other man… and I think its very arguably that he is not the most important man in history.You offered a false dichotomy at one point of either Jesus was divine or just a guy when it's entirely possible this person never actually existed. I 100% agree with your view of truth, I would never unsubscribe, I’m glad you talk about this kind of stuff I agree this is the most important and interesting stuff. Keep it up! P.S. its 2am and Im suuuuper not gonna grammar check this please be forgiving in that regard haha
"If there is a creation there must be a creator if there is a design there must be a designer if there is moral law there must be a moral law giver.” Ok, if god exists, who created him?
@@why6212 It's difficult to comprehend the infinite with a finite mind. Perhaps it's possible for things to have existed always and to continue always existing. we're barely starting to understand the universe. We have no clue what the greater cosmos consists of. Maybe God is there. I don't think you can use logic to prove God exists. But I also know you can't prove he doesn't exist. Personally, I have found evidence for the existence of God. Can it be proven? Not empirically. You raise valid points. John's arguments are not without flaws. But neither are yours. The world is round but some people think it's flat. So, maybe it will never be possible to prove or disprove God. What matters is that we try to treat each other well. Thank you for your comments!
@@dankuchar6821 sure, however we have a common usage for "existing". You don't have a valid claim that something exists unless you can prove it... empirically. Additionally, if it's difficult to comprehend the infinite with a finite mind, how can you even claim to have had a subjective experience of a god? You may not have even understood what that experience was.
@@why6212 So something doesn't exist until it can be proven? That's silly. My degrees are in physics and mathematics. I know lots of things that exist that nobody knew they existed a long time ago. But they have always existed. And they existed before they were proven it empirically. I'm not trying to prove the existence of God. You can't do that scientifically. but that doesn't mean he does not exist. In fact it's impossible to prove a negative. I think the world is round because of the evidence that supports that hypothesis. There are people that think the world is flat. I think they're crazy. If I think God exists because of certain evidences, there are people that will think I'm crazy.
Albert Camus said " I would rather live my life as if there is a God and find out there isn't than live my life as if there is no God and find out there is"
Matthew Lee that’s true but it doesn’t change the core value of the statement. What it does is behooves you to search thru the catalog of your choices and research as to which one makes the most sense to you. Correct? I’m not bashing you just presenting a viewpoint.
@@xtreme4stringbass But it doesn't, the Godhead works harmoniously because of who God is, as perfectly Holy and Just. Each part of the Godhead operates in time, space ad eternity as One entity. Just like you are created, body, soul, and spirit but are one person.
Really awesome clip. Is a blessing to be part of this channel and to know that we serve the same King. Will be praying for you guys over in Atlanta....... “For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.” Galatians 1:10 ESV
Well done John, well done! I am looking forward to the Network in June, God bless you and keep you and your family safe... Tony Parrish...Cochise County AZ
religion aside, things cannot be proven with logic alone. your first example "creation cannot create itself, therefore creator". your logic starts and ends before you even uttered this line. how did you come to the conclusion that the universe we find ourselves in could not create itself? that has to be demonstrated first, and before you demonstrate there is a creator you also have to demonstrate that creator is actually respinsible for creating the universe we find ourselves in. you cany simply logically deduce a creator, it has to be demonstrated.
I agree. I'm a big fan of this channel but John lost me here. so God has just always existed without being created? Why didn't some creator have to create God? If God didn't have to be created, can't we just skip the God step and say the observable universe has always existed?
The universe has already been proven to be an expanding, physical thing (see Einstein). Time is also physical (time can be affected by speed). Time has a beginning and therefore, it must absolutely have an end. SO.... that leaves us with what is before and after time (God). You can believe in life as either a coincidence or creation. However, it IS in fact one or the other. Just understand that coincidence implies an impossibly improbable chance.
Problem is even science is in agreement that the universe had a starting point. No matter what side of the coin you take, both have presuppositions and a origin we must attempt to define.
Matter cannot be created or destroyed by "normal" means. Therefore, the only explanation is that there is a Creator who exists and is able to act outside physical laws.
Love the statement (slight paraphrase): "If you live with a higher purpose you're one of us." - This makes ALL the difference. With too much conflict based upon one religion or another having some kind of superiority, that message to often gets lost. There is a "Brotherhood of Mankind" that transcends all religions, borders and races. Those living with and for a higher purpose will always prevail. Faith in the goodness of men combined with the might of good men will always triumph over those who wish to do ill, to oppress or prey upon the weak.
@@aquilatempestate9527 I don't see the correlation of each in this context. While family hierarchy is important, the millions of young men (and women) who have united to fight wars often had no other family but fought for all of mankind's future. Many fill this calling before they start a family and many learn to be better family leaders as a result... But it's far from nonsense.
The highest purpose is the evolution of the species in a rational manner. If you realize how scarry it is to atheists that the only reason you don't rape little girls and kill innocents is because of a fear of a god sending you to hell. I don't need a fear of hell to know that is all jacked up brother. Scary that it takes a book telling you that to get it.
Brother, I feel the lord is calling me to the mission field in Japan in the near future. Unfortunately, private ownership of guns is extremely narrow there. However, while I am still here in the states I will continue to enjoy my firearms haha. This video was a such a pleasure to watch. I am a believer through and through and being a believer means there is a faith element. That does not mean, however, that we can't also use logic to prove that God is as real as you and me. I was already subscribed but i'll be darned if this didn't make me want to again. Keep up that fantastic work. I know this isn't any easy video to make because of all the hate that is pretty much inevitable. Also, I like how you listed Mormonism and Jehovah's Witness as their own religions. I'm not trying to hate on them, everyone has a right to believe whatever they want. But the fact is the only people who think they are Christians are people who don't understand Christianity or people who are themselves Mormons or JW's. Again, not hating, I just understand the differences and I like how you obviously do too.
I actually sat down and placed close attention, saved it, played it again. This is one of the best videos I've seen from WPS. Left me thinking, which I believe may have been John's intention to begin with. Good stuff man.
"Does God exist?" is a very important question, but the MOST important question is: "If you die today, are you 100% sure you will be in Heaven??" If your reading this and aren't sure, you're not alone. Most people haven't thought about it much, or maybe aren't quite 100%, or even might say "I hope so" or "I'm trying", but the fact is, the Bible tells us we can know 100% for certain that we will be going to Heaven when we die. The Bible says it's as easy as receiving a free gift, taking a drink of water, or walking through a door. Most people think you have to be a religious person, or make Jesus the Lord of your life and follow Him, or turn or repent from your sins, or be baptized, or join a church to be saved. Even others might say living a good life, or doing God's commandments, will get you to Heaven. Still others might say they are sure they would go to Heaven today, but that if they commit some big sin in the future they might lose salvation if they don't ask for forgiveness or turn from that sin. But actually it's MUCH easier than that. If you're trusting any of those things to get into Heaven, then it's a works based salvation, and the Bible is VERY CLEAR that being saved from Hell, and going to Heaven is NOT OF WORKS! Please check out this video from my Pastor explaining just how simple it is to know you are on your way to Heaven. ruclips.net/video/F8owXQ2QyvA/видео.html There are many commandments and laws in the Bible for us today, and while God wants us to follow all of them, and even expects us to follow them, NONE of them are required to get us into Heaven. The ONLY thing that you need to do to get into Heaven is to put all your trust/faith/belief in the right thing. Just believing that God/Jesus is real and exists is not what it takes, but putting your trust off yourself and your good works, and submitting to the righteousness of God by realizing there's nothing we can do to get ourselves to Heaven and that we simply have to accept the free gift of un-ending life that Christ paid for on the cross. It is believing ON the Son - Putting your faith on what he did 100%, not on you're good works AND Jesus. No - its either 100% what Jesus did, or Jesus will let us pay for our sins 100% by going to Hell. Romans 6:23 KJV "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" - Bible says we're all sinners that deserve Hell - Hell is the only way we can pay for our sins ourselves. God doesn't want us to go to Hell, so he sent is Son Jesus to pay for our sins himself. Acts 16:30-31 KJV "And brought them out and said Sirs, WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? And they said Believe ON the Lord Jesus Christ and thou SHALT BE SAVED, and thy house." - Just by putting our trust on what Christ did on the cross, knowing that God himself paid for our sins by suffering death on the cross, going to hell for 3 days and 3 nights, and resurrecting from the grave. Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV "For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT OF GOD. NOT OF WORKS lest any man should boast." - We're saved by our belief, not our good works or good deeds. God paid for the gift, but its up to us to accept it or not.
Trevor Nutcher Actually, an even MORE important question is, “Why would you waste your time with one heaven belief over another?” Why do you get to assume a heaven exists?
No I won’t and no one will go to heaven. At least no one knows. No one has any reason to believe in any form of heaven since no one has been able to demonstrate anything like a heaven or hell concept to exist in the real world ( what I mean is the entire universe including the bits humans can’t see with their eyes ) I won’t go to heaven neither will anyone. That’s okay you get one life do with it as much as you can, help as many people as you can. If you need a god,heaven or hell, or any religion to act morally towards your fellow humans you probably aren’t a very moral person.
dawes1611kjv no it’s not, depends on how you interpret the New Testament. Since the Old Testament didn’t really have a heaven since ancient jews didn’t really have a heaven or hell concept. Also why the fuck should anyone care what the Bible has to say about anything since it’s so wrong about most things.
@KamekoBruns agreed. the christian god doesnt seem like the type of person I would want to worship and be around anyway. its okay though christians get to pick and choose what they want to believe in their bible and make excuses just like all the other religions. people are just afraid of the unknown and or need a book to tell them how not to be a dick. or not. the book of leviticus has some really helpful tips on the proper way to buy and sell slaves. satan was infinitely less of a dick in the bible. the only thing he did was tempt people to tell god to get fucked.
Hey Brad, there's a really cool little book I found a while ago written by a guy named J.C. Ryle from the late 1800s. The book is called "Thoughts for Young Men" although it's perfectly suited for older men as well and even women. It's only about 80 pages but talks very pointedly about self discipline and the struggles men deal with but from a biblical perspective. It's really really thorough and a great guide for first time readers of the Bible. Not sure why it came to mind now, but I just thought I'd mention it. I found a republished version on Amazon for just a few bucks. Ended up buying a couple more for my dad and brother too since I enjoyed it so much.
@Randall Swanson I can certainly agree, the world is a complex and incredible place. I do indeed believe in evolution, however, I don't pretend to believe that it explains everything about our natural world. Much like no religion, christianity included, can explain certain things. Like dinosaurs, for example.
Thank you for being unique in that you don't make disparaging remarks about those of us who believe. Most atheists, and many believers for that matter, are so quick to attack that walls are up before objective conversation can even begin.
@@andrewmabry8995 I grew up in church. Went to private Christian school. Have parents and other family members who believe. Just not for me. Agree to disagree with them.
I appreciate your attitude towards "those who believe" but I would challenge you to take a look at the Bible. This book was written by dozens of people over thousands of years and from the beginning to the end it has the same massage. Two historians can't agree on something that happened in the past yet for some reason the bible remains unified to the core. It's definitely no work of man. If you are right and there's no God then you don't have anything to worry about but if God's word is right you will defiantly have a problem.
I know for a fact that God exists. I’ve had some questionable happenings in my life and the only explanation is that God was with me. I feel very blessed.
I appreciate you as a person and I support your cause. You are well rounded and share your thoughts and ideas in a well thought out and clear manner. Keep it up brother much love and support.
Ha! Ha! Ha! After traveling to Israel with David Wood, John Lovell decided that he wants to be JUST LIKE DAVID WOOD! So he took a break from shooting stuff!
@@WarriorPoetSociety Traitor! BTW, I think we should do a crossover when I reach 500k subs later this year. Maybe you show me what to do in a hundred different jihadi attack scenarios!
"There were many other things that Jesus did; if all were written down, the world itself, I suppose, would not hold all the books that would have to be written." -- John 21:25
Nobody created God, he is the uncaused first cause. Remember I'm not using the god of the gaps argument here of "the universe appears to be designed therefore God." I am using the evidence that we understand about the universe, such as the expantion rate which points to a beginning from a point of singularity which has been scientifically proven and comming to an inference from there. Essentially I am working from effect to cause to come up with my inference, and the evidence points to only 2 logical explanations, either something that is timeless, spaceless,and immaterial wound up the universe or the universe created, designed, and sustains itself. If you want to stick with the latter just understand that it opens up another can of worms that contradict what we know about the universe as well as all biological life.
God exists outside of what can be logically explained. God has always and will always exist and therefore has no creator, however our brains can't comprehend that. However, that doesn't mean it isn't true. The best way I've heard this explained is like this: "Imagine being an ant. Ants are unaware of most things that we humans know about. Ants aren't capable of knowing about how planes fly. They have no idea how a woman can become pregnant and give birth to another human. They know nothing of the universe and other galaxies and stars. We as humans know that these things exist and can be explained but to an ant, it is just beyond comprehension. "
I've been watching your videos for a while, but I hadn't subscribed until this one. I'm glad you have the fortitude and integrity to tackle controversial topics like these. Well done.
Well done John. You asked the question; "What's worth dying for?" Jesus thinks that we are. We think our families and other innocent people are. There's a great parallel between Warrior Poets and the Lord Jesus that makes Him very relatable to us.
Hisslave1 Jesus didn’t die for anyone today. Even Jesus’ enemies knew who he would die for, and it wasn’t the entirety of humanity. Joh 11:51 He did not say this of his own accord, but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation, Joh 11:52 and not for the nation only, but also to gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad. Who were the children of God scattered abroad? The scriptures repeatedly make the prediction that the descendants of the tribes of Israel would be scattered throughout the nations :"(e.g. Deut 4:27, 28; 30:1; Jer 30:11; Dan 9:7; Micah 5:7, 8 ) and that in the last days they would be regathered, leaving none behind :"(e.g. Isa 11:11,12; Jer 16:14,15; 23:3-8; 31:10; Ezek 11:17-19; 39:28; Zeph 3:20). No non-Israelites in view. We also see from verses like Heb 9:14-15, that Jesus died for those who sinned under the first covenant. In the first century, that was only Israelites. Heb 9:14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God. Heb 9:15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant. Verses suggesting Jesus died for the whole world (kosmos) and that he took away the sins of the world (kosmos) are referring to the covenant world of Israel, the old covenant religious system and temple community that had been under the curse of the law. Paul said in Galatians 4:5 that Jesus came to redeem those under the law. Only covenant people and later, Israelites had and were under the law. That’s not anyone today. If you believe Jesus died for you, you’ve been duped. For more insights like this and others showing that nobody today is part of the bible’s redemptive narrative, visit the Facebook discussion group entitled “The Preterist Collective”, “Israel Only Memes and Information” or visit the RUclips channel called “Israel Only Information” for many informative presentations on this exciting and controversial view.
@@Scruffers2011 Wow man, you're working mighty hard to disprove scripture and not believe that "whosoever will may come." If you choose to perish, that's your business but don't be like the pharisees and try to drag everyone else with you.
Hisslave1 words like whosoever must be understood from their proper historical context and Israelite audience relevance. Whosoever was whosoever of those Christ came for. That’s not anyone today. Jesus didn’t come for you. He came for his own people, Israel. The emphasis was always to seek the lost sheep of Israel, to gather the elect (Matt 24:31, 2 Thess 2:1) remnant from out of the nations, who were gentile descendants of the tribes of Israel. Jesus came to redeem the sheep, his people. Luk 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people We are not his people. Israel was his people. (Luke 1:76-77 NKJV). And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Highest; For you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways, To give knowledge of salvation to HIS PEOPLE By the remission of their SINS," Isa 51:16 And I have put my words in your mouth and covered you in the shadow of my hand, establishing the heavens and laying the foundations of the earth, and saying TO ZION, ‘YOU ARE MY PEOPLE.’” (Matt 2:6 NKJV) ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, Are not the least among the rulers of Judah; For out of you shall come a Ruler Who will shepherd MY PEOPLE ISRAEL.’” Acts 28:20... For this reason, therefore, I have asked to see you and speak with you, since it is because of the HOPE OF ISRAEL that I am wearing this chain.” Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance TO ISRAEL, and forgiveness of sins. (Acts 13:23 NKJV). From this man’s seed, according to the promise, God raised up for ISRAEL a Savior-Jesus The emphasis was always Israel, not non-Israelites. Mat 1:21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” We are not his people. Jesus himself said... Mat 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house OF ISRAEL.” He told the disciples.... Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of OF ISRAEL. Redemption was for those under the law. Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Which means that Jesus didn’t die for us. He died for old covenant Israelites. Jesus came to save HIS people from their sins (Matt 1:21, Acts 5:31) We are not His people. Salvation was only for Jews and gentile descendants of the tribes of Israel dispersed among the nations. Post-AD70 Christianity is a hijacked redemptive narrative that has flipped the identity of “gentiles” on its head from being the elect diaspora called out of the nations to mean anyone today who is not Jewish. It was in this way that post-70AD Greeks misappropriated bits and pieces of a redemptive narrative meant for old covenant Israel, adapted it to their Greek culture and created a Jesus cult of their own. For more insights like this and information on Covenant IO, visit the Facebook discussion group called “The Preterist Collective” or visit the RUclips channel called “Israel Only Information” for many informative presentations on this exciting and controversial view.
@@Scruffers2011 You came along 40 years too late to turn me away from the cross and my Lord. You stand in a perilous place my friend. " For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."
Hisslave1 those who perished were first century descendants of the tribes of Israel. The word perished is always associated with Israelites in the days leading up to the end of the old covenant religious system and temple community, which was in the first century. Everybody dies, but nobody today perishes in the biblical sense.
First, I love what you're doing with tactics training and entertainment. But sorry man... I have to... Using logic means not committing logical fallacy. Starting with presuppositions as a set of truths and then "jumping to conclusion" is a logical fallacy. In order to think scientifically you have to include the idea that things need to be falsifiable in order to properly analyze them and most if not all of your presuppositions are not falsifiable. The claims you make regarding what on the surface looks like causation isn't necessarily so. The idea that, there is something implying that there was a something creator doesn't logically follow. Reasoning requires some level of certainty and the claims don't reasonably contain enough certainty to warrant the claim. Quantum mechanics has seen that in a vacuum quarks can come into existence from what appears to be nothing. Not all religions share the common characteristic being Jesus. You mentioned Buddhism as one, yet it does not and there are other eastern religions that do not as well. Confucianism and Taoism are two others. What they do share in common are instruction for ways of living through the suffering that is Life. They share similar stories/allegories for how to view the world and how to parse it. What it means to be a proper human being. Personally, I have friends and family that are both Christian as well as Atheists. In the end the debates over there being a God or Gods don't really matter... Its a mute point all based on the fact that the reality is un-falsifiable and the burden of proof is on the believer (you can't know a cat doesn't exist). I do think whats important is that there is a set of stories with all religions that help make people better persons and that this is something we need as a humanity. You don't have to look too far to see that given the void of religion people resort to less than ideal natures. Forgetting the existence of a deity, the Bible is important, the Bhagavad Gita is important, the Dao De Jing is important and all the other religious texts that teach people how to endure the suffering of the world and how to be the best people they can for others as possible. I hope this reads as constructive and again I love what you're doing man! Rock On!!
alot like the metaphorical truth Weinstein brought up to Peterson in their religion debate. it works and serves a purpose but in the end may not be factually true
One of your earlier statements you mention that we have to be scientific but if there is no God and we live in a random universe there’s no chance of inductive inference therefore science is not possible but you believe that science is possible and you’re saying that we should be scientific why the inconsistency do you understand that your belief system does not comport with reality?
I'm a Warrior Poet John. I'm going to give you my honest response to your argument in this video from the perspective of it being based on logic. As a disclaimer, know that I have no vendetta against the concept of god. I will keep editing as I watch so if it doesn't say "END" I'm still working on my comment. So right off the bat you made the false assertion that a creation implies a creator. Reductio ad absurdum, your argument implies this: Creation = Creator = Creator = Creator (Ad infinitum). Once you ask where the Creator came from, based on the same premise of "something existing implies a creator" that argument falls apart. If you can separate the god from these rules of existence and the need to be created, we can apply that same rule to the universe and the need for a creator dissolves. So we're not off to a good start. Conscience: The claim of instinct for a universal Right and Wrong. This can be proven false, among Americans in different cultures or even within a single culture. The only thing I can say that I actually know to be true (I can logically prove it too, I'll email you my write up on this if you want) is that ALL humans ALWAYS act in a way that they BELIEVE is right, at the time of their acting. It is physically and logically impossible to do what you think you should not do. Your actions positively prove what you believed "right" was at the time of your acting. Communication: The existence of a thing doesn't imply or even suggest a separate entity that possesses the same ability. Your error here being that you've used your conclusion as a premise to then support your conclusion. The conclusion being that god exists and the premise for the origin of communication being that god exists and created communication. Meticulous design: Your point is on the connection between everything and how everything works together and how the earth is perfectly placed in the solar system etc. It is not only unsurprising that this could randomly happen once in how many hundreds of trillions of solar systems in the universe, it's very much likely that it has occurred multiple times in our universe. Statistically it would be almost a sure bet. Numerous Religions Commonality: I'll respond to your point here by making my own. One thing that just so happens to be a part of every single religion that I'm aware of, is the survival of the Ego beyond death, in some capacity. In christianity for example it's the "Soul". I believe that Religion was a solution to a huge problem in early human evolution. Man became self aware. He then saw death. He thought "well where did that guy go now that he's dead? And what happens to me when I die?" Then the Ego being the magnificent adapter that it is, it "saved" itself from mortality through religion. It was easy to do because they knew very little about the universe. The after life, Heaven, Reincarnation etc. They all save the Ego. That is a significant thing to realize about religion when you understand what the Ego is. It's a very plausible explanation. Let me say this. I think it is very important to see the world, societies and individuals as worth protecting and enjoying, despite the promise of something better later. I think it makes a man that much more powerful when he spends his moment in the light being good, with no promise of any reward in the way of afterlife or reincarnation etc. I hear the "without a god life isn't worth living" comment from most religious people. That is because they are standing on a foundation of religion as being part of who they are and can't fathom a version of the universe without it. That world view absolutely can and does exist though. There are millions of really good people that are such with no good guy score board over their head racking up points for later. They aren't snorting coke off of strippers every night or drunk driving backwards on the freeway. THIS world is enough for me. Your premises do not logically imply your conclusion, thus logically your argument fails. It is neither Valid nor Sound. Religion MUST rely on Faith. Logic and Faith don't jive. There is nothing wrong with that though. Religion helps so many people and I'm glad it's around for them. Thanks for sharing your views John. -Kenny END
The last couple sentences were perfect. There's no way to logically justify something that's supernatural. I think a lot of Christians or creationists feel the need to prove to others that their view is right. That's partly due to the religion itself and the emphasis it puts on spreading the message, but I also believe that they feel a need to reassure themselves in their views. Like you said that's totally fine. Faith is the only option. I enjoyed reading your comment it was refreshing seeing someone responding civilly, especially on such a hot topic.
Humans do what they think is wrong all the time. True understanding of human nature shows man’s fallen sinful state. Look at the mental illness so prevalent in our country right now. It is fully possible for a human to believe one thing and act in an opposing manner. It’s what we do, it’s why history reads the way it does. For example, people think the Bible and those who believe in God are illogical but are willing to act like aliens species most likely HAVE to exist because it justifies their atheist views, you know the same thing you were accusing John of.
I've only recently discovered and subscribed to your channel, but hearing your thoughts on Absolute Truth spurs me on to learning more and more about the WPS. It bumps your credibility in my book, thank you for your time and for letting God use you to impact others.
John, I’m a Muslim and I’m a big fan of this channel. I appreciate you speaking on this topic. I also want to encourage you and anyone interested in theology to look at the works of Christian scholar Dr. Craig Considine.
@@thucydides7849 how old are the kids still being molested today by sanctioned priests? Institutionalized religion is always going to be a problem, BUT people believing in their religion peacefully without trying to convert others by force or talk down on them poses no threat and should be respected. So maybe grow a pair and apologize for being so inadequate in light of such difficult topic.
John, love the video! I am a young Catholic Priest, great stuff that you are putting out, would love to get together with you sometime to shoot guns and talk theology...warrior poet stuff! I live down near the Brunswick, GA area if you are ever down this way, may God be praised!
jakedog 3006 what made you become a Priest? I made a post on here about losing and being scared. I’ve dedicated my entire adult life to service as a Soldier, a Police Officer and an educator for low income at risk youth. Unyielding was severely injured and the pain has seemed to make it so that I’m not the problem solver I once was and am clouded and battling pain every second of every day with quite a bit of medicine. I’m close to being on the streets now. It’s difficult to find a job I can do especially with the medicine I take. I am a Christian, however, right now it is very bleak. Very dark.
matt henderson I actually ran from the call originally somewhat...I actually heard God speak to me when I was praying in a chapel...he actually spoke to me! I thought someone was playing a joke on me, i ran from it because it was not what I wanted to do, I wanted to become a Game Warden for the state of GA. I pursued it for a while, got a degree in criminal justice, but after a while (a lot of praying) God started to close the doors and the desire to become a priest kept getting stronger and stronger, I decided to try out the seminary for a year, that first day I stepped through the doors of the seminary I knew immediately that I was in the right place and never had a doubt God was calling me...been a priest for 6.5 years now and love it! Will be praying for you...Here is my email if you want to talk about what you are going through: jalmeter@diosav.org
matt henderson Sounds like my health issues. No Dr's could help. Lost jobs etc... Turns out I had Lyme... I know it’s easy to say, but find the right people to talk with. Stay strong.
@@chancethegreat2 yes sir! I grew up hunting and fishing with my dad and of course shooting guns, now that I am a priest I find that these hobbies are great stress relievers and good evangelization tools especially here in south GA. Yeah I really enjoy WPS, I would love to do a video with him discussing theology, history, scripture, etc (if John would be interested) ...and of course shoot some guns. One of my parishioners is an NCIS SWAT officer and we have been training together pretty regularly
Hey John, I loved it. If I could offer one tip, it would be to slow down. For a lot of people this might be information overload - drinking out of a fire hose if you will.
@@f5tornadeau this isn't for me as I preach these truths to the church I Pastor on a regular basis. But there are a lot of people that the truths are completely alien to. I know there are other factors at play on a RUclips vid but one truth understood is better than one hundred truths heard.
Probably just trying to cover a lot without making an hour long video. There's so much more that could be said, but it's probably best to keep things short to cater to attention spans.
I died, was brought back to life and was in a coma for almost a month....I saw spiritual, heavenly figures who spoke to me, explained things that I couldnt understand..I know there is a GOD!
Most NDE survivors see God and things of the afterlife as THEIR mind understands it. The mind and soul do not DIE when the body medically ceases to live (Jesus called, sleeping). Bt I personally think NDE's are generated in our mind like a dream...
Brother you are dead on. I am 62 married for 38 years and we care for our 33 year old disabled son that has Angelman Syndrome. Thanks for your service. I am also so glad to see you are a Christian. I am from Jacksonville but we live In Ayden, NC now. If you are ever this way would love to meet up. I have shared this and it did me good to see it tonight.
Pay attention to the title folks and understand the video scope. Im tackling ‘who God is’ and not THAT God is. It’s a video aimed at deists and theists and not atheists (though I’m happy for any listening in). For something for the atheists, I made 2 videos entitle God and Gunfighting. There I lay out why belief in God is the most logical worldview. For those grumpy right now, I got you this balloon 🎈 (will not show if you are 92 years old and reading this on a blackberry), so just imagine a beautiful, round balloon.
God & Gunfighting pt1: ruclips.net/video/YFTBVoxYZ2w/видео.html
God & Gunfighting pt2: ruclips.net/video/xg2ZCnAZPGI/видео.html
Does this mean you are going to start posting poetry too now?
I believe in Christianity but I’m not a believer in God (so far as I can tell). But I’m open minded and did enjoy listening to your take on this.
David LaRue That is an intriguing position to take. How does one believe in Christianity but not in God? Just trying to figure out how that works.
@@Zxt45 How do you believe in Christianity, but not in God?
David LaRue same question. How can you believe in Christianity but not God? Christianity is a follower of Christ (it’s in the name). Christ IS God.
What are the things that give you a hesitancy to believe in God? (Honest question)
"What is worth LIVING for?"..... and, "What is worth FIGHTING for?" .... and "What is worth DYING for?"....
If you don't have these answers, at the ready, then you may not really be prepared to take up arms.
Definitely not ready....before or after
God family country
Cheers, I'll be stealing an element of this for my sermon 👍
Thou shalt not steal pastor. Find your own stuff. Hahaha jk jk.
All talk all of you.
I’m so encouraged to hear a strong man giving a strong defence of his faith. Thanks John!
Then you've never heard any counter arguments. It falls apart in the first premise. It's just a rudimentary cosmological argument and all of them have been debunked a million times. If you want to keep your faith, don't look into it. If your love of truth is stronger than your love of god however, do.
Tough choice I know and you probably think they're one and the same. I chose truth so until actual evidence for god is presented I'll remain in the non believer camp.
@@TheTurinturumbar God is Truth
@@masonmead27 in some sense sure, but in the interpretation of modern times. Like actually verifiable, mind independent sense. Not so much.
ruclips.net/video/aQKjUzotw_Y/видео.html check this out
@@TheTurinturumbar Cornelius Van til said the proof that the Bible is true is that if the Bible was not true you couldn’t know anything at all. Faith in the true and living God is the beginning of all logic and reason.
Only the Christian worldview has the pre-conditions of intelligibility. I understand you have done a little bit of study but nowhere near enough I would be happy to help you understand biblical philosophy.
Amen Brother. As a fellow Infantryman I'm glad that a fellow Grunt with your standing and caliber talks about this. A lot of people dont realize that a lot if us are God Fearing individuals with a drive to be good honest Christians.
And here I thought the purpose of life was "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." But your idea sounds much better.
Hahaha Conan!!!!
Both are good......why not maybe? (Said in a Dr Zoidberg voice)
Awesome
Conan!!!!
The purpose of life is to learn, evolve in conciousness
A simple thumbs up doesn't come close to expressing the appreciation I have for this video and ones like it. Thank you John.
Your faith is one of the reasons why I am here. You have to ask the hard questions sometimes, and I believe you hit the nail on the head.
John Lovell thank YOU for standing up for Jesus..................He did for you, I and EVERY Christian that has called Him Lord and Savior. "Faith is believing in the promises of God and acting on them." That strong statement was made many years ago by one my very best friends in life, Rev. Hugh Harbort. He is our retired Pastor at our church. He served as our Pastor, not preacher there is a BIG difference, for 37-1/2 years. "Truth is hate to those that hate the truth." I read this quote years ago and use it in the closing of my emails along with 2 Chronicles 7:14. I am 67-1/2 years young, I have been a Christian for 54-1/2 years. Jesus is the ONLY way to the Heaven of the Holy Bible plus on the other side of that coin there is only one other eternal destination...................eternity in Hell. Keep up the great videos plus within your work and you sphere of influence stand for Jesus, for again He stood for us, for He was the ultimate "Warrior Poet"! One more thing thank you for your service to this The Greatest Nation On Earth, by the Grace Of God. I am a sixth generation Georgian.
The greatest nation.......do you mean Ireland 😉☘
You clever to believe in god. You a fool to believe in Jesus. What if Bible was test from the Devil?
Absolutely amazing! I'm a Christian myself, and I love how you take it seriously, but with such grace and love towards our neighbors. I love the runnin' and gunnin' training videos, but this "pause" and "30,000 ft view" is too important to pass up, and I thoroughly enjoyed it as well. God bless!
Training people to save their lives and teaching people to save their souls. Great stuff, love it
Well put.
@@1oldbluesheepdog
Agree 100% bless you both
That's a T-shirt right there!
Amen!!!
Where was the saving of your soul part? When the rich young ruler came to Jesus asking what must he do to inherit eternal life what did Jesus tell him? I didn’t hear this in the video.
“What kind of king makes Himself nothing for His people?
The Mighty one.
What kind of king lets His people humiliate and beat Him until He is unrecognizable and is still able to hold His head high?
The Merciful one.
What kind of king hangs Himself on a cross for his people?
The Righteous one.
And because He has done this for us I will make my life a living sacrifice unto Him.”
His name is above all others His name is JESUS!
The kind of King that knew he was the sacrifice so that we might be forgiven and live forever in His presence. "Our Savior"
Amen
There is the flaw, HE put himself through hell on a stick so we no longer have to ourselves.
Yet humans still insist in put ourselves and each other through misery.
@@krispalermo8133 he didnt die so you could have a better life on this earth, he died so you could be comforted knowing when you die you will be with him forever in perfection if you was born again, its like you dont put a parachute on for the flight, you put it on for the jump.
You really believe all that? If you didn’t believe in Zeus thousands of years ago you were crazy. Now it’s Jesus and some god that makes you suffer and kiss his ass or go to hell. LIKE HOW DO YOU PEOPLE BELIEVE ALL THIS SHIT. ITS 2020, WE DONT NEED THIS TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD AROUND US
I think it’s so awesome that John is not afraid to discuss the important subjects and is bold in sharing his faith.
Faith is a very powerful thing but what makes it valid is the Lord for if God is with us then who could ever stop us. This allows his to speak with such confidence. Man I swear this dude is like a modern day David
Nothing but respect for you, John. In this cancel culture environment you're shamelessly standing up for what you believe and getting people thinking. Love it!
He's getting people thinking they're thinking. Unfortunately the actual thinking doesn't seem to go much farther.
"I want to resist the spirit of the age that say's 'Hey, don't talk about money, politics, religion'"... I couldn't agree more, John. Many of times I have heard the same thing. I believe that because these important topics to converse about have been suppressed, we now have this society that does not know how to handle feelings, or thoughts on some of the most influential factors in our lives. Prime example is us millennials (and I cringe admitting I am in that group lol). Love the videos, keep em coming!
People who do not truly have God in their hearts follow their politics as their social religion.
Almost no one wants to think they have been wrong or miss lead in what they think and believe in.
Those two sentences can cause a lot of social problems with people. I have provoke a lot of arguments cause of it.
Such as some Christian churches teaches that if other churches that don't follow their dogma are not true believers and are going to hell cause of that. Or the concept of the Chosen People....
Sadly too many follow politics as a cult of personality or a give party without looking really at the policy being promoted.
There is a battle going on for your mind. A spiritual battle. And it’s real folks read your Bible and press on
God bless
Spiritual Warfare is very real
Yeah, But sometimes evil Come into this eartly dimension , and that evil needs to get kick back to obliviouse, ;-)
I'm a veteran all the way from Belfast in Ireland John, and it is great to hear your message today!🙏
For me the world is far too breath taking, beautiful and perfect to just be an accident! I only have to look into my daughters eyes to see how incredible God is!
I will be watching and supporting you brother, keep up the good work and God bless 🙌
@Neil Skillen true that
Yup outer space even more
It's definitely no accident friend
@@doddgarger6806 your right buddy! 🙌
Neil Skillen GTY.ORG
Something tells me this might get you more subs than you loose. Thanks for stickin' up for the Lord brother. On a side note, i just saw a W.P.S. sticker on a car where I live in Santa Cruz Co. Ca. Guess I better get with the program!
I GOTTA SAY THIS! I'm a 59 year old cowboy/trucker/rowdy Christian that never took the time to learn to shoot, hunt ,fish,but love all the outdoorsy stuff I can get. You are one of the greatest inspirations when come to faith, family and country. I"mso glad I got a connection through utube and hope to subscribe to WPN when $ allows. I'd like to attend your classes when schedule and money allows. How ever, all that being said to say... I'm a critical sceptic on who I throw in with ,and your the "DUDE"(your word, wasn't ever a fan back in the day) I'd walk through glass for. Your spot on , articulate and entertaining funny Ina great way. GOD(JESUS)IS Surely your guide post. Your my "DUDE HERO ", keep up the fight and great work💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Thank you and your service Buds for your service!!!🎉
Another atheist here! I must say, atheist conversations get really old, really fast. Many will disregard a believer's thoughts, insights, and even feelings, based on nothing other than their belief in God. But there's so much more content in what I believe is "literally the most important question" (words I have used many times in my life regarding this topic, verbatim!). I'm not sure I can even quantify how much I appreciate that the conversation is willing to be had by people I admire and respect. So thank you for having the courage to speak with us about this. I wish more people in my life had taken it as seriously.
I am more of an agnostic. I don't believe in God but am more than willing to accept a surprise when I die. I think if there is a God he/she/it is not like how we imagine it as a dude in the sky shaking his head at you as you "tickle your pickle" alone in your room.
I respect the good that religion does though and if it is a source of comfort and strength in your life I am happy for you.
Get into the deep Athiest talks. Evolution, the cosmos, quantum physics for lamens. Things like that. It’s mind bending stuff and all fact based and open ended until we find all the answers. Which we won’t. Amazing we are here. Amazing what could be out there.
@@nunyabizznas9051 This is actually really surprising: ruclips.net/video/gpStPNAB7Cw/видео.html I was not expecting this from Brian Greene. I prejudged him as a one-note guy, and he has something to say about that exact prejudice, and it's really enlightening.
I believe total commitment to truth, no matter where it leads you, will lead you to Christ.
The reason I believe that is because I see a lot of atheists who have been turned off God by his "so called" followers usually end up finding God again when they are brutally honest with themselves and others.
I'm a Christian and I get why so many have turned from Christ. The virtue signaling of Christians and the endless theological debates and bible lawyering can turn anyone off.
Fortunately it's not about men. It's about what is good beautiful and true. It's like the laughter of a child. It's just perfect when you see it and cannot be put into words.
Friend, a godless world equates absolute meaninglessness, and the act of 'creating one's own meaning' is pretty futile, although secular sociologists will say taht's what our cultures have done... It's not true. Meaning comes from the reality that God exists, He's infinite in wisdom and thus there is infinite purposefullness in his creation. I invite you to know Him and find out His purpose for you; Jeremiah 29:13, ephesians 2:10; www.HeHasAnswers.com God bless you!
Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis made a compelling case for the existence of God for me.
literally finished that book 30 seconds before starting this video. haha
@@drewdavidson4264 I've listened to this at least 7 times, CS power packs so much into language and it's so powerful it makes it really hard to retain and recite, at least for me and most CS Lewis fans I know. ruclips.net/video/bgwq09sIpLQ/видео.html ..........Good Luck Drew :-)
I read problem of Pain. But CS Lewis was not saved. he did not keep the 10 commandments like the messiah said to do to enter life.
@Paul P opinions vary.
Man, this was so refreshing to watch. Thank you for being a man who is proud of being a Christian. Like you mentioned, in our current times it feels as if everyone is so afraid of not seeming cool, or not wanting to be offensive to mainstream society. A good example for myself, is that every Christmas, ever since I was little, I would just say Merry Christmas, and I wouldn't think twice about it, because what else would I say (I grew up in a Christian Family). Now that I've worked in a lot of corporate environments for several years, and kinda became conditioned to act "politically correct" and agreeable, this last Christmas, I caught myself trying to say weird stuff like "Happy Holidays" instead. I thought to myself "well, I wonder if anyone actually cares? does it matter at all? After some thought, I decided, "screw your happy holidays, Jesus is the reason for the Season in the first place, if someone wants to feel offended, then too bad." I was so worried about everyone else's feelings and beliefs, that I started to forget my own. So, glad to see other people out there who can be a Christian not only through faith, but also by using some amounts of logic too, and then be brave enough to post what they believe on RUclips, knowing there could be consequences (subscriber loss, financial loss). God bless, and nuff respect John!
I've never said happy holidays or any other crap like that, always merry Christmas, and that puts the decision on the other person, they can either say thank you and say it back or tell me they don't celebrate Christmas, to which I would say well whatever holiday you celebrate, I hope it is great! If someone gets angry, just kill them with kindness....I've had someone get so angry at me because they were being so rude and disrespectful and all I did was smile and say have a great day, to which they replied "how dare you say have a great day!" Lmao, what are they going to do, complain to corporate that I was being too nice?
I mean being honest I don't believe in God. However this didn't piss me off. I found it quite insightful and interesting. It doesn't make me a believer but it's important to keep an open mind and to consider all things.
LOVE that you can hear a different idea without getting ticked off. It's a great sign of intellectual and emotional maturity. Your atheism does not piss me off either and we can calmly chat and play nice 👊
I read too much sometimes. This is the best I’ve ever found.
One Universal Creator Being
Truth is His Name
Creative being personified, no fear no hatred
Image of the undying, beyond birth,self existent
By the Gurus Grace
True in the primal beginning.
True throughout the ages
True here and now
Nanak says it will be true forever.
This is the Mul Mantra from Japji Sahib in Sikh scripture. I liked the description of what in Christianity calls the Father. I suggest the entirety of Japji is really worth a read. Quite the eye opener. Also, the Sikhs were warriors, wrote poetry. Christ is an enlightened being for them also.
scottpewpew Truthfully Scott, God is already working on bringing you into the fold.
Your very enlightening attitude shows you are a great person.
I’m not trying to push Christianity down your throat.
Personally I was a evil person until I got saved, I have seen and done things I never thought I could get forgiveness for but the whole time I just needed to admit my sins to God.
Christ died on the cross to pay my sin Debt.
My wish for you is that you stay open minded to the idea of that.
Thanks for your time, and remember we are only human and we all sin everyday.
If you want to listen to anyone on RUclips that will really cause you to examine your belief system whether it’s Christian or Atheism; Watch any 5 (or hopefully more) Ravi Zacharias debates or conferences.
@Q Anon amen to that!
I wouldn't be upset if we actually had more stuff like this.
same
Me too.
This is how it used to be, how WPS started. They’ve been drifting away for a while now, caught up in the $$$. Glad to see they are checking themselves.
@@briangullickson9013 I wouldn't say they at all after money. This is a horrible way to go about it lol
me neither. Bring it on. I am a Catholic so I am sure that he will say some theological things I disagree with but lets bring on the discussion.
By far my most enjoyed video. I appreciate you, Jon, for being the man you are because you have encouraged me to be a better man for my friends and family in both the sense of protection but also compassion. Don't stop doing what you're doing. God bless you brother. "You - Warrior Poet, who was dead, now stand. I have won your freedom" ... And He held out a pierced hand.
John, as a brother Christian, we know God’s Word says Creation alone speaks of the Creator! Glad to see a deep thinking video, not just “run & gun” (though I like running and gunning, lol)!
Coudn't of said it better myself Mark.
All of creation declares God's majesty and glory(Psam 19, Roman's 1).
But we also know who God is through His special revelation which is His word... The Bible(2 Tim. 3:16)
This is saying that you know a book is true because the book says that it is true.
God allows us to suffer. He waiting for thy neighbors to love. You allow our rights and freedoms to be taken yet you a Christian? You guys always say; NOT MY RIGHTS!! Go take the neighbors. That is ok.
@@GinEric84 You are correct, as a christian, I believe that the bible itself testifies of the existence of God, but only to the saved, having the Holy Spirit, can understand it on a spiritual level. It is absolutely a circular argument to the unsaved.
Love it John! Please make this a regular addition to your content if you can.
I have always said that I would rather spend my life serving God and discover one day that I was wrong than to choose not to serve Him and find out I was wrong. My theory has always been, that I have so much more to gain by serving my Lord and Savior. How do you put a price tag on the kingdom of Heaven?
How do you know you choose the right Lord? What if you have mistakenly put your trust in the incorrect deity?
That is the beauty of free will. Just like with small children and Santa Claus. I dont rely on seeing is believing but rather believing is seeing. My faith in Him allows me to lay eyes on the prize. Again, if I'm wrong, then I dont want to be right.
@@Migger_29 Are you assuming there is more than one?
@@showmefish no, I’m just refraining from assuming that there is only one deity.
Yeah, that’s how I feel about Santa Claus!! As long as I believe, I will keep getting presents under my tree. His reindeer still eat the carrots I leave for them, so I know the fat man exists.
Usually the one thing worth living for is also the same thing worth dying for
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:”
Romans 3:23-24 KJB. “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”
Ephesians 1:13 KJB. Trust and believe the gospel of grace today. He died for our sins. Amen John awesome video
Wow very interesting video and change of pace. Wont lie I got burnt out on tactical knowledge. I watch lots of tactical stuff and do hands on training this was very interesting conversation. I applaud your courage for speaking your mind. Bravo.
Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords. He is my Rock and my Salvation. He put me here to serve Him and to protect others. By God's grace, I will be faithful to my calling.
He was actually called Yeshua as the letter J did not exist in the Hebrew Language during or before his life.
god aint real wtf
@@mariasgreene I guess that'd be great for you, since you wouldn't be willing to be good so as to get to heaven. Much preferable everyone goes to hell in oblivion.
@@vanivanov9571 nobody ever went to, nor will anyone ever go to heaven for being good, my friend.
HighSpeedNoDrag
Yes,
I hear this as an argument from Muslims often.
English is a Germanic language, the "j" is pronounced like a "y".
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Pretty dope! Thanks for using your platform to share these thoughts. Praying that the revelation of Christ become real to unbelievers, and a renewed faith for stagnant saints! Love your works brother✊🏾
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” John 1:1.
“The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth”. John 1:14
Amen
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Did you read that in some book written by a bunch of hash smoking dudes centuries ago?
In cheeses name we pray, Hey, man!
@@busaman5261 Baaaaa, said the sheep!
Jesus is King!
And Lord of lords!
And his father is the one and only "Judge" and "Lawmaker" for the heavens and Earth.
I though it was Elvis....
(Kicks rocks and slowly walks away...)
Please don’t make me explain that this was a joke.....
King of the Jews. You're all Jews now?
@@aquilatempestate9527 yes actually. Jesus said we are grafted on branches.
EVERYONE LIKE THIS VIDEO!! WPS is like no other group of minds. Can't wait to get some gear and rep one of my favorite brands!
Hugh Mungus like no other?
@@archimedes7436 I haven't found one yet that prides itself so much on being intellectually, spiritually, and physically active. It's all about protecting those you care for the most.
Wifi Protected Setup??? Ohhhh wait, NM! WARRIOR POETS SOCIETY! 😅 NERD ALERT!
You got a really cool set up, sir. One would think you'd just stick to what draws the most people (guns, tactics, etc) and not gamble with upsetting your viewers. But you leave your comfort zone and talk about something that very well might, as you say, cause people to unsubscribe to your channel. In todays world, that's the most Christ-like attribute I've ever seen.
"Whoever acknowledges Me before others, I will also acknowledge before My Father in Heaven." Matthew 10:32
What are you talking about lol most of his viewers are more than likely gun owners or pro-guns. Which are most likely conservative. Which most likely believe in god. I support guns, but im democratic and dont believe in god. I know what im getting myself into when i stay on his channel which i would think most people do. I just think that most of his viewers will nit be upset lol
@@lunv1888 LMAO i was thinking the exact same thing. "God, Guns, and Freedom!" or to summarize "Murica!". Stepping out...think before you speak i reckon. Im actually a gun owning conservative myself but disagree w what OP said. However im a little skeptical on the God part. Not that i dont believe, just the origin is where i tend to falter. Christianity and other popular religions are just a tad bit sketchy for me and ive recently landed on the fence after being raised Baptist. However, i strongly disagree about the "one true religion" idea. You can't say that only Christian's will be saved and all others condemned. There are millions who have never even been exposed to Christianity, so how could they even follow and believe in someone whom they have never heard of. Most religions seem to have the basics in common, and i feel that is what matters the most. Our basic understanding of right and wrong, and good and evil. The choice is ours, and we all must walk our own road. Really like this channel btw. Lots of good shit here. Plus William Wallace, i mean cmon lol.
John Lovell is one of the greatest men I have ever had the pleasure to listen to. Hes a great preacher & teacher.
@@lunv1888 you need to get saved. And you better hurry up!
@@karenemery1404 I was saved, god touched me and wouldn’t stop so I ran to the police!
A few years back I was invited to a talk by the last man on the moon. He spoke for three hours and the 20 or so folks in the room did not make a move (glued to their seats) Gêne Cernan made it abundantly clear that there was a higher supreme being that created the Earth and universe and it was perfectly clear to him when looking at the Earth in all of its beauty from the surface of the moon. He allowed it was a total spiritual experience. Gene is no longer with us so he is with our father now. What a guy !
@KamekoBruns you probably have not understood the story very well, the slaughterhouse was the result of human beings falling into sin and bringing about death and all its forms. We can basically see only the shadow of the beauty of paradise which does not exist at the moment.
Atheist here. Still love your self defense content, so an obligatory 'agree to disagree' from me on this particular issue. I don't believe that just because someone doesn't believe every exact thing I do means I should throw away the other extremely relevant information you provide.
appreciate the maturity! Don't worry, your atheism doesn't offend me and would not cause me to break fellowship with you either
@@WarriorPoetSociety Hey! Appreciate the reply. Not sure if you're too busy with other projects right now (probably), but I was wondering if you had ever discussed with anyone in the firearms community who 'doesn't believe' WHY they are pro second amendment? I tend to hear a lot of people say that the second amendment is a 'God given' right, but what about the people who don't follow that train of thought? I think you'll find it very interesting and productive. I personally don't think I'm quite the person to represent that position, but I have graised on the works of John Locke to get where I am ideologically.
Ah man, you are a good dude! It was great meeting you at the gundies!
Gospel of Matthew
“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
This is my favorite scripture. Look at the next line: "Upon these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." All the rest of the Bible, all the rest of Jesus' life, all of history, all the rest of our lives, all of good and evil, unpacks from following them, or ignoring them.
@@50srefugee amen, all of the laws the Jews followed and all of the teachings the prophets delivered were summed up in these two commands.
Matthew didn't record Jesus's full statement, but Luke did.
The first half of the greatest commandment is "Hear O Israel, the Lord your God, the Lord is One."
You can't have love without defining love. Thus the first half of the commandment defines love, and sets the way in which we ought to see God in all these things. As One.
Anything else you'd like? Lol
A Christian company that can talk about faith without preaching at us. Thank God!
There was a time when the curious would sit over a beer and have a deep discussion regarding the purpose and meaning of all what we experience. ie: C.S. Lewis and G.K Chesterton.
Today’s world I’d be cautious wearing a red hat to thanksgiving...🤠
Great channel, can’t wait for the next video.
God Bless!
John, you're one of very few RUclips "celebs" that I would truly like to meet. God Bless you and yours. Airborne Reeeeeconnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - John 1:1. Word is communication/information/instructions, correct?
Actually most believe jesus is the word in john 1:1. Jesus is a transliteration. The actual name is Yahshua which is closer to Joshua but Jesus is from the Greek word Iesous then translated to Latin as Iesus
Jesus is the Word. John 1:14
@@Matthew-777 Yes! Yahshua was the walking Torah! The walking truth, God in the Flesh walking out the Torah. Where in the world does it make sense for half of a book to apply to one group of people and the other to apply to another group? It doesn't make sense! We need to read our Bibles and learn from Yahweh! PS. I'm not a Jew I am a child of Israel. Jesus said. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
the latin is Logos, meaning Jesus Christ speaks for God, the Father.
RKBA, Jesus was the beginning of Israel’s new covenant community, not the beginning of planet earth.
“Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him."”
John 14:6-7
Lee L ...Amen Brother.
Amen
Who wrote the Gospel According to John?
Lee L The premise that people today need the biblical way, truth and life is false. The context of Jesus being the way was limited to old covenant Israelites in the days leading up to the end of the old covenant religious system and temple community. Only old covenant Israelites were lost and needed Jesus to be the way. Only old covenant Israelites needed the truth to set them free from the curse of the law. And only Israelites were dead under the law and needed life through Christ’s new covenant.
Instead of reading ourselves into scriptures limited to a first century Israelite context, we can choose to find our own way in life. We can discover our own truths and we can lead productive, fulfilling and meaningful lives without religious delusions.
@John Jesus of Nazareth couldn't have existed; Nazareth wasn't established until centuries after "Jesus" was allegedly crucified. The only settlements _within miles_ of where Nazareth would eventually be were small hamlets, where everyone would have been related to or personally known him. So these relatives and friends, in a hamlet too small to even have a temple, decided to throw a guy they knew from a mountain in a region with no mountain or cliff to throw him from...riiiight.
Josephus' brief mentions of a cult and its leader support that and nothing more. By your nonsensical "reasoning", magic, wizards, and water spirits are real too because "king Arthur" actually existed.
As a person who grew up Christian then steered a hard 180° toward Atheism in my early teenage years and now tends to identify as Agnostic this was the most compelling argument and conversation with reason I've ever heard a Christian or person of faith make and I absolutely took something from this. He wasn't completely hardcore about anything and left the questions as compelling questions rather than set in stone answers that he's just repeating, it especially helped with the way he shot the video and how I could look him directly in the eyes the whole time and see if there's any sense of "brainwashing" for lack of a better term that I see in some other people of faith. I could tell that he's thought about this and has come to a conclusion whether that's by starting off neutral or by unconsciously finding pieces that already fit the narrative the point is that he's looked at various different angles and has taken them into account. This was a great video
You are a gifted speaker Brother, keep moving forward. Outstanding video!
This video was awesome, I would love to see more of these poet videos rather than 90% warrior, it really takes more 50/50. What's the point of wanting to defend your life or other's lives if you have no purpose in the first place? And I love hearing someone speak out about that.
Watched for a long time. Always thought you were a strait up Dude! This was an Awesome , Honest , Heartfelt video! Watch All, do not Comment much. You did this with no smoke up the skirt, and I truly appreciate it.
Thank you
I’m going to start at the 2:30 mark, and to preface this I just want to say I like what you do as a channel and you seem like a cool guy. I don’t mean anything said here to be harsh or have a harsh tone.
2:30 to 3:00 - “I want to logically deduce “who is god’, using just reason alone. And that's the ambition that we’re going for. I’m going to have to make a few generalizations, but hopefully we will be able to see the forest through the trees so we’re not going to be super up close on any detail. Any one point, if pressed, I could even turn around and argue against it. That’s just good critical thought, and I’m super excited about airtight logic and reason these are the things that were going to be using cause were not just poets, but let's be scientists as well. Well trained minds and all that jazz.”
After watching this video I believe there was no airtight logic, reason, or science. I say this sincerely and with concern as someone with degrees in biology, psychology, neuroscience, philosophy, and education. I’m not concerned with your conclusion but more how you got there. I worry about the message you send to people when you talk like this. Which is not me saying I think you should stop, these types of videos are often my favorite, and I would prefer they never stop.
3:00 “So first off we start with the idea that there is some God”
So no we don’t. We never start with the acceptance of a belief if we are just using logic/reason. I actually think you know that because you give support for your belief in the next sentence. So I’m not trying to explain that to you but it's an important point to make going forward.
“We know that because the universe isn’t going to create itself, there is everything. It didn’t just all make itself, the universe would have to already exist to cause itself.
So this is the idea that an ex-nihilo creation isn’t possible without intervention. And this is just fallacious. It’s using the logic of stuff on non-stuff. We have no idea of the properties of nothingness or if nothingness even has properties. So there is no evidence that indicates the universe couldn’t create itself ex-nihilo, that matter and energy couldn’t come into existence from nothing (in fact there is some very “meh” evidence to support it) and there is no strong proof against an eternal universe. I know you don’t believe these things to be true but they are. I would encourage you to look into these things with the scientific mindset of proving your current beliefs to be false and see if anything changes.
“If there is a creation there must be a creator if there is a design there must be a designer if there is moral law there must be a moral law giver.”
While I agree with all of these statements for the most part they are all tautological. They are true by definition and are therefore meaningless. What’s in question here is if there IS creation, design, and moral law. I would submit there is no evidence to suggest there is.
3:25 “This god, I believe, would have imbued us with a conscience, everyone has this internal concept of right vs wrong (and all of us know that we have not lived up to that standard of right and wrong). And so since we all have that internal mechanism, that “hey you should do the right thing” kind of thing, a conscience. I believe that that is something that god would have given us and instilled in us. That’s not a big hard leap to make.”
So 2 points I want to make here. First I would agree that there is in fact no hard leap to make IF you already accept that the christian god is real and he created humans. It says as much in the bible; he wrote it on your heart. If not your job then becomes the following 1) prove all humans have a universal internal concept of right vs wrong. 2) prove a god exists. Then depending on the god support that that god imbued us with that concept (the christian god has it built in).
The second point I want to make, which I already alluded to, is that it's not so clear that everyone DOES have some internal concept of right vs wrong. And if they do it's certainly not universal or wholly conserved person to person. I say universal only to mean we’re all playing by the same rule book. Which we clearly are not.
Now obviously something is going on with us where we have feeling of mistreatment and happiness etc, but if we are going to be scientific about this, if we are going to be logical and use reason we have to take this a lot slower.
3:55 - “Furthermore we’re communicators, right, even animals communicate. So I would expect that god, the author and creator of everything. Who created communication would also be able to communicate and again I don’t that’s a far reach.”
So again I agree we humans, and animals, communicate. And I certainly would also expect the creator of everything to have the ability to communicate, if not to the creation directly then at least in some general sense. Though it's not logically necessary. But honestly I’m not sure what point you were trying to make with this one I assume it will come later.
4:13 - “Also I notice meticulous design, and all these symbiotic systems work together. And look whether it's in biology, down to the atom, and all these things working together in perfect harmony. Our bodies, our systems of systems. And even cosmologically, you look out in the solar system, I mean 1 degree difference of the earth and we’d all burn up or freeze to death. The world, the universe, our bodies, all of our ecosystems are meticulously designed.”
So at this now we are entering the point of the video which prompted me to respond, so naturally this is where we REALLY disagree. The fact of the matter is that you infer design without a good reason. And the reasons for that inference given here are not correct. These things do not work together in perfect harmony, there is more chaos than order in most of these things. 1 degree of anything regarding the earth would NOT result in the catastrophes mentioned. And even if that were the case (it is as a matter fact not) it would not suggest design. My favorite analogy for this is the rain puddle that marvels at how meticulously designed he is for the home it was born into.
But the bigger point here is that EITHER WAY it does not support “design”. Bad designs exist, in fact one might argue they are the most numerous type of design. So flawless or flawed or anywhere on the scale one cannot logically deduce that it was designed. And if someone points out a flaw in the “design” a contestor needs only argue “well that’s part of the design” making this idea unfalsifiable. So it’s not deduction, it is not logical, and it’s unfalsifiable which makes it not scientific.
I’m not going to do the rest of the video as deeply, simply because I want to live my life and I’ve already written 3 pages haha but I did watch it and I want to hit on a few points
The god that creates the cosmos and wants to communicate in book form can do so in direct form. If the ad-men could beam messages into your head they would. The idea that you would expect a book is silly.
For most of human history judeo-christian religion didn’t exist, and you are ignoring all other religions before that time and all the contemporary ones that don’t have a clear connection to Jesus or the bible. Many existed longer than all the religions you mention and still do. As such this is just plain data picking which makes it not a “big deal”… it makes it fraud almost… I mean if I did anything like this I would have been kicked out of my capstone studies. And I don’t think you mean to do this but it shows your mindset when thinking about this stuff so I would just reflect on that.
We don’t know if people have more books written about Jesus than any other man… and I think its very arguably that he is not the most important man in history.You offered a false dichotomy at one point of either Jesus was divine or just a guy when it's entirely possible this person never actually existed.
I 100% agree with your view of truth, I would never unsubscribe, I’m glad you talk about this kind of stuff I agree this is the most important and interesting stuff. Keep it up!
P.S. its 2am and Im suuuuper not gonna grammar check this please be forgiving in that regard haha
"If there is a creation there must be a creator if there is a design there must be a designer if there is moral law there must be a moral law giver.”
Ok, if god exists, who created him?
@@why6212
It's difficult to comprehend the infinite with a finite mind. Perhaps it's possible for things to have existed always and to continue always existing. we're barely starting to understand the universe. We have no clue what the greater cosmos consists of. Maybe God is there.
I don't think you can use logic to prove God exists. But I also know you can't prove he doesn't exist.
Personally, I have found evidence for the existence of God. Can it be proven? Not empirically.
You raise valid points. John's arguments are not without flaws. But neither are yours.
The world is round but some people think it's flat. So, maybe it will never be possible to prove or disprove God. What matters is that we try to treat each other well.
Thank you for your comments!
@@dankuchar6821 sure, however we have a common usage for "existing". You don't have a valid claim that something exists unless you can prove it... empirically.
Additionally, if it's difficult to comprehend the infinite with a finite mind, how can you even claim to have had a subjective experience of a god? You may not have even understood what that experience was.
@@why6212
So something doesn't exist until it can be proven? That's silly. My degrees are in physics and mathematics. I know lots of things that exist that nobody knew they existed a long time ago. But they have always existed. And they existed before they were proven it empirically.
I'm not trying to prove the existence of God. You can't do that scientifically. but that doesn't mean he does not exist. In fact it's impossible to prove a negative.
I think the world is round because of the evidence that supports that hypothesis. There are people that think the world is flat. I think they're crazy. If I think God exists because of certain evidences, there are people that will think I'm crazy.
@@dankuchar6821 no, not what I said. Care to re-read it?
Albert Camus said " I would rather live my life as if there is a God and find out there isn't than live my life as if there is no God and find out there is"
There are 1000 gods to choose from
Matthew Lee that’s true but it doesn’t change the core value of the statement. What it does is behooves you to search thru the catalog of your choices and research as to which one makes the most sense to you. Correct? I’m not bashing you just presenting a viewpoint.
You are an Athiest, I just beleive in one less god than you. Except Christians believe in 3 gods so it is not really monotheism.
@@whatsupdog1761 But there is only ONE true God just like there is only one truth.
@@xtreme4stringbass But it doesn't, the Godhead works harmoniously because of who God is, as perfectly Holy and Just. Each part of the Godhead operates in time, space ad eternity as One entity.
Just like you are created, body, soul, and spirit but are one person.
Really awesome clip. Is a blessing to be part of this channel and to know that we serve the same King. Will be praying for you guys over in Atlanta....... “For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.” Galatians 1:10 ESV
I think u played ur argument super fair... didn't tell people what to think , just an exercise of logic and argument .. well done
Either there is a God or there isn't, both scenarios are terrifying.
Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Proverb 9:10)
Could you imagine the shock when someone finds out that God does exist
@Q Anon Beautiful fairy tale.
@@SgtRudySmith31bRet which one?
I think a God exists and we do all this pain and suffering to each other and we allow the sickness.
Well done John, well done! I am looking forward to the Network in June, God bless you and keep you and your family safe...
Tony Parrish...Cochise County AZ
Amen, keep fighting the good fight brother John.
religion aside, things cannot be proven with logic alone.
your first example "creation cannot create itself, therefore creator". your logic starts and ends before you even uttered this line.
how did you come to the conclusion that the universe we find ourselves in could not create itself? that has to be demonstrated first, and before you demonstrate there is a creator you also have to demonstrate that creator is actually respinsible for creating the universe we find ourselves in. you cany simply logically deduce a creator, it has to be demonstrated.
I agree. I'm a big fan of this channel but John lost me here. so God has just always existed without being created? Why didn't some creator have to create God? If God didn't have to be created, can't we just skip the God step and say the observable universe has always existed?
The universe has already been proven to be an expanding, physical thing (see Einstein). Time is also physical (time can be affected by speed). Time has a beginning and therefore, it must absolutely have an end. SO.... that leaves us with what is before and after time (God). You can believe in life as either a coincidence or creation. However, it IS in fact one or the other. Just understand that coincidence implies an impossibly improbable chance.
Problem is even science is in agreement that the universe had a starting point. No matter what side of the coin you take, both have presuppositions and a origin we must attempt to define.
Matter cannot be created or destroyed by "normal" means.
Therefore, the only explanation is that there is a Creator who exists and is able to act outside physical laws.
Faith, my friends.
Faith.
Love that you’re not afraid to show your faith! Greatest content on this subject.
My Grandfather told my Mother "He never felt closer to God then when standing in the forest"
Same
Even the rocks cry out
I have said this many times as well
My rationale is different but some of what you've said has helped me.
Thanks
P.s. Paul says "let each man be convinced in his own mind"
Your explanations and views of an old topic are great.
So happy I follow WPS. You’ve grown in a brotherhood. God Bless You All.
Love the statement (slight paraphrase): "If you live with a higher purpose you're one of us." - This makes ALL the difference. With too much conflict based upon one religion or another having some kind of superiority, that message to often gets lost. There is a "Brotherhood of Mankind" that transcends all religions, borders and races. Those living with and for a higher purpose will always prevail. Faith in the goodness of men combined with the might of good men will always triumph over those who wish to do ill, to oppress or prey upon the weak.
Nonsense I'm afraid. Loose family perhaps, and a family is a hierarchy.
@@aquilatempestate9527 I don't see the correlation of each in this context. While family hierarchy is important, the millions of young men (and women) who have united to fight wars often had no other family but fought for all of mankind's future. Many fill this calling before they start a family and many learn to be better family leaders as a result... But it's far from nonsense.
The highest purpose is the evolution of the species in a rational manner. If you realize how scarry it is to atheists that the only reason you don't rape little girls and kill innocents is because of a fear of a god sending you to hell. I don't need a fear of hell to know that is all jacked up brother. Scary that it takes a book telling you that to get it.
This might be in my top five favorite videos that you have posted. Thank you!
I love the fact that you take on the tough topics that others would typically ran from. I, too, am a Son of God. I'm honored to call you brother.
Brother, I feel the lord is calling me to the mission field in Japan in the near future. Unfortunately, private ownership of guns is extremely narrow there. However, while I am still here in the states I will continue to enjoy my firearms haha. This video was a such a pleasure to watch. I am a believer through and through and being a believer means there is a faith element. That does not mean, however, that we can't also use logic to prove that God is as real as you and me. I was already subscribed but i'll be darned if this didn't make me want to again. Keep up that fantastic work. I know this isn't any easy video to make because of all the hate that is pretty much inevitable.
Also, I like how you listed Mormonism and Jehovah's Witness as their own religions. I'm not trying to hate on them, everyone has a right to believe whatever they want. But the fact is the only people who think they are Christians are people who don't understand Christianity or people who are themselves Mormons or JW's. Again, not hating, I just understand the differences and I like how you obviously do too.
Amen brother, thanks for being brave and covering this. God bless!!!!
I needed that today... Thank you. Seriously, Thank you..
THIS truly is what matters the most.... "Spiritual Fitness" is what ASP channel has titled it!!
I actually sat down and placed close attention, saved it, played it again. This is one of the best videos I've seen from WPS. Left me thinking, which I believe may have been John's intention to begin with. Good stuff man.
"Does God exist?" is a very important question, but the MOST important question is:
"If you die today, are you 100% sure you will be in Heaven??"
If your reading this and aren't sure, you're not alone. Most people haven't thought about it much, or maybe aren't quite 100%, or even might say "I hope so" or "I'm trying", but the fact is, the Bible tells us we can know 100% for certain that we will be going to Heaven when we die. The Bible says it's as easy as receiving a free gift, taking a drink of water, or walking through a door. Most people think you have to be a religious person, or make Jesus the Lord of your life and follow Him, or turn or repent from your sins, or be baptized, or join a church to be saved. Even others might say living a good life, or doing God's commandments, will get you to Heaven. Still others might say they are sure they would go to Heaven today, but that if they commit some big sin in the future they might lose salvation if they don't ask for forgiveness or turn from that sin. But actually it's MUCH easier than that. If you're trusting any of those things to get into Heaven, then it's a works based salvation, and the Bible is VERY CLEAR that being saved from Hell, and going to Heaven is NOT OF WORKS!
Please check out this video from my Pastor explaining just how simple it is to know you are on your way to Heaven. ruclips.net/video/F8owXQ2QyvA/видео.html
There are many commandments and laws in the Bible for us today, and while God wants us to follow all of them, and even expects us to follow them, NONE of them are required to get us into Heaven. The ONLY thing that you need to do to get into Heaven is to put all your trust/faith/belief in the right thing. Just believing that God/Jesus is real and exists is not what it takes, but putting your trust off yourself and your good works, and submitting to the righteousness of God by realizing there's nothing we can do to get ourselves to Heaven and that we simply have to accept the free gift of un-ending life that Christ paid for on the cross.
It is believing ON the Son - Putting your faith on what he did 100%, not on you're good works AND Jesus.
No - its either 100% what Jesus did, or Jesus will let us pay for our sins 100% by going to Hell.
Romans 6:23 KJV "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord"
- Bible says we're all sinners that deserve Hell - Hell is the only way we can pay for our sins ourselves. God doesn't want us to go to Hell, so he sent is Son Jesus to pay for our sins himself.
Acts 16:30-31 KJV "And brought them out and said Sirs, WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? And they said Believe ON the Lord Jesus Christ and thou SHALT BE SAVED, and thy house."
- Just by putting our trust on what Christ did on the cross, knowing that God himself paid for our sins by suffering death on the cross, going to hell for 3 days and 3 nights, and resurrecting from the grave.
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV "For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT OF GOD. NOT OF WORKS lest any man should boast."
- We're saved by our belief, not our good works or good deeds. God paid for the gift, but its up to us to accept it or not.
Trevor Nutcher Actually, an even MORE important question is, “Why would you waste your time with one heaven belief over another?”
Why do you get to assume a heaven exists?
No I won’t and no one will go to heaven. At least no one knows. No one has any reason to believe in any form of heaven since no one has been able to demonstrate anything like a heaven or hell concept to exist in the real world ( what I mean is the entire universe including the bits humans can’t see with their eyes ) I won’t go to heaven neither will anyone. That’s okay you get one life do with it as much as you can, help as many people as you can. If you need a god,heaven or hell, or any religion to act morally towards your fellow humans you probably aren’t a very moral person.
Amen!!! Salvation is clearly by FAITH ALONE. No good works or repenting of your sin will get you into heaven.
dawes1611kjv no it’s not, depends on how you interpret the New Testament. Since the Old Testament didn’t really have a heaven since ancient jews didn’t really have a heaven or hell concept. Also why the fuck should anyone care what the Bible has to say about anything since it’s so wrong about most things.
@KamekoBruns agreed. the christian god doesnt seem like the type of person I would want to worship and be around anyway. its okay though christians get to pick and choose what they want to believe in their bible and make excuses just like all the other religions. people are just afraid of the unknown and or need a book to tell them how not to be a dick. or not. the book of leviticus has some really helpful tips on the proper way to buy and sell slaves. satan was infinitely less of a dick in the bible. the only thing he did was tempt people to tell god to get fucked.
I really appreciate this video. I’ve started reading the Bible and this makes since. Thank you.
Hey Brad, there's a really cool little book I found a while ago written by a guy named J.C. Ryle from the late 1800s. The book is called "Thoughts for Young Men" although it's perfectly suited for older men as well and even women. It's only about 80 pages but talks very pointedly about self discipline and the struggles men deal with but from a biblical perspective. It's really really thorough and a great guide for first time readers of the Bible. Not sure why it came to mind now, but I just thought I'd mention it. I found a republished version on Amazon for just a few bucks. Ended up buying a couple more for my dad and brother too since I enjoyed it so much.
brad miller GTY.ORG
Been lurching on the channel... Now subscribed and notified. Love the content, but this video brings it home!
Thank you for making this video you didnt loose a subscriber you actually gained one.
Proud Atheist. But have no problem with people who believe.
@Owen Hawthorne by proud I mean unashamed.
@Randall Swanson I can certainly agree, the world is a complex and incredible place. I do indeed believe in evolution, however, I don't pretend to believe that it explains everything about our natural world. Much like no religion, christianity included, can explain certain things. Like dinosaurs, for example.
Thank you for being unique in that you don't make disparaging remarks about those of us who believe. Most atheists, and many believers for that matter, are so quick to attack that walls are up before objective conversation can even begin.
@@andrewmabry8995 I grew up in church. Went to private Christian school. Have parents and other family members who believe. Just not for me. Agree to disagree with them.
I appreciate your attitude towards "those who believe" but I would challenge you to take a look at the Bible. This book was written by dozens of people over thousands of years and from the beginning to the end it has the same massage. Two historians can't agree on something that happened in the past yet for some reason the bible remains unified to the core. It's definitely no work of man. If you are right and there's no God then you don't have anything to worry about but if God's word is right you will defiantly have a problem.
I appreciate these videos sir! Keep them coming:)
I know for a fact that God exists. I’ve had some questionable happenings in my life and the only explanation is that God was with me. I feel very blessed.
My simple version of the meaning of life and you cant go wrong if you follow it.
SERVE CHRIST.
Thank you for this video, we need to hear this!
Love any video you make touching on Our great Creator. God bless brother
Amen!
The most important question and you got it right!!!
Thanks John!!!
I appreciate you as a person and I support your cause. You are well rounded and share your thoughts and ideas in a well thought out and clear manner. Keep it up brother much love and support.
Ha! Ha! Ha! After traveling to Israel with David Wood, John Lovell decided that he wants to be JUST LIKE DAVID WOOD! So he took a break from shooting stuff!
Dude!!! Big fan!!! I hear you are the 2nd biggest apologist on RUclips now!!
Hope you are well homie. Say hello to the Mrs 👊
@@WarriorPoetSociety Traitor! BTW, I think we should do a crossover when I reach 500k subs later this year. Maybe you show me what to do in a hundred different jihadi attack scenarios!
OH MY GOSH IT'S THE DIZZLE HIMSELF!!!
D Wood just being D Wood... big fan man. I was just thinking about you when he was talking about our conscience.
Have you guys done that crossover? 😅
Before the rapture guys come on! 😂
"There were many other things that Jesus did; if all were written down, the
world itself, I suppose, would not hold all the books that would have to be
written." -- John 21:25
John is it to much to ask for more videos like this? Please keep them coming. God bless you!!!
I don’t see the logic in a lot of this. If the universe needed a designer then wouldn’t god need one too? Who created god?
Nobody created God, he is the uncaused first cause. Remember I'm not using the god of the gaps argument here of "the universe appears to be designed therefore God." I am using the evidence that we understand about the universe, such as the expantion rate which points to a beginning from a point of singularity which has been scientifically proven and comming to an inference from there. Essentially I am working from effect to cause to come up with my inference, and the evidence points to only 2 logical explanations, either something that is timeless, spaceless,and immaterial wound up the universe or the universe created, designed, and sustains itself. If you want to stick with the latter just understand that it opens up another can of worms that contradict what we know about the universe as well as all biological life.
@73Corbin let me ask you something, is all truth absolute or relative?
By the way I became a Christian at the age of 26, I'm 28 now.
God exists outside of what can be logically explained. God has always and will always exist and therefore has no creator, however our brains can't comprehend that. However, that doesn't mean it isn't true.
The best way I've heard this explained is like this: "Imagine being an ant. Ants are unaware of most things that we humans know about. Ants aren't capable of knowing about how planes fly. They have no idea how a woman can become pregnant and give birth to another human. They know nothing of the universe and other galaxies and stars. We as humans know that these things exist and can be explained but to an ant, it is just beyond comprehension. "
@@JimDaMan924 my man be speaking truth up in here!!!!
Good thoughts.. thx for sharing, and not being afraid to say your thoughts..
I've been watching your videos for a while, but I hadn't subscribed until this one. I'm glad you have the fortitude and integrity to tackle controversial topics like these. Well done.
You're a rocker, through and through, keep on keepin' on - Joseph Dìrte
Well done John. You asked the question; "What's worth dying for?" Jesus thinks that we are. We think our families and other innocent people are. There's a great parallel between Warrior Poets and the Lord Jesus that makes Him very relatable to us.
Hisslave1 Jesus didn’t die for anyone today. Even Jesus’ enemies knew who he would die for, and it wasn’t the entirety of humanity.
Joh 11:51 He did not say this of his own accord, but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation,
Joh 11:52 and not for the nation only, but also to gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.
Who were the children of God scattered abroad? The scriptures repeatedly make the prediction that the descendants of the tribes of Israel would be scattered throughout the nations :"(e.g. Deut 4:27, 28; 30:1; Jer 30:11; Dan 9:7; Micah 5:7, 8 ) and that in the last days they would be regathered, leaving none behind :"(e.g. Isa 11:11,12; Jer 16:14,15; 23:3-8; 31:10; Ezek 11:17-19; 39:28; Zeph 3:20). No non-Israelites in view.
We also see from verses like Heb 9:14-15, that Jesus died for those who sinned under the first covenant. In the first century, that was only Israelites.
Heb 9:14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God.
Heb 9:15 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.
Verses suggesting Jesus died for the whole world (kosmos) and that he took away the sins of the world (kosmos) are referring to the covenant world of Israel, the old covenant religious system and temple community that had been under the curse of the law. Paul said in Galatians 4:5 that Jesus came to redeem those under the law. Only covenant people and later, Israelites had and were under the law. That’s not anyone today. If you believe Jesus died for you, you’ve been duped.
For more insights like this and others showing that nobody today is part of the bible’s redemptive narrative, visit the Facebook discussion group entitled “The Preterist Collective”, “Israel Only Memes and Information” or visit the RUclips channel called “Israel Only Information” for many informative presentations on this exciting and controversial view.
@@Scruffers2011 Wow man, you're working mighty hard to disprove scripture and not believe that "whosoever will may come." If you choose to perish, that's your business but don't be like the pharisees and try to drag everyone else with you.
Hisslave1 words like whosoever must be understood from their proper historical context and Israelite audience relevance. Whosoever was whosoever of those Christ came for. That’s not anyone today. Jesus didn’t come for you. He came for his own people, Israel.
The emphasis was always to seek the lost sheep of Israel, to gather the elect (Matt 24:31, 2 Thess 2:1) remnant from out of the nations, who were gentile descendants of the tribes of Israel.
Jesus came to redeem the sheep, his people.
Luk 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people
We are not his people. Israel was his people.
(Luke 1:76-77 NKJV). And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Highest; For you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways, To give knowledge of salvation to HIS PEOPLE By the remission of their SINS,"
Isa 51:16 And I have put my words in your mouth and covered you in the shadow of my hand, establishing the heavens and laying the foundations of the earth, and saying TO ZION, ‘YOU ARE MY PEOPLE.’”
(Matt 2:6 NKJV) ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, Are not the least among the rulers of Judah; For out of you shall come a Ruler Who will shepherd MY PEOPLE ISRAEL.’”
Acts 28:20... For this reason, therefore, I have asked to see you and speak with you, since it is because of the HOPE OF ISRAEL that I am wearing this chain.”
Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance TO ISRAEL, and forgiveness of sins.
(Acts 13:23 NKJV). From this man’s seed, according to the promise, God raised up for ISRAEL a Savior-Jesus
The emphasis was always Israel, not non-Israelites.
Mat 1:21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”
We are not his people. Jesus himself said...
Mat 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house OF ISRAEL.”
He told the disciples....
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of OF ISRAEL.
Redemption was for those under the law.
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Which means that Jesus didn’t die for us. He died for old covenant Israelites.
Jesus came to save HIS people from their sins (Matt 1:21, Acts 5:31) We are not His people. Salvation was only for Jews and gentile descendants of the tribes of Israel dispersed among the nations.
Post-AD70 Christianity is a hijacked redemptive narrative that has flipped the identity of “gentiles” on its head from being the elect diaspora called out of the nations to mean anyone today who is not Jewish. It was in this way that post-70AD Greeks misappropriated bits and pieces of a redemptive narrative meant for old covenant Israel, adapted it to their Greek culture and created a Jesus cult of their own.
For more insights like this and information on Covenant IO, visit the Facebook discussion group called “The Preterist Collective” or visit the RUclips channel called “Israel Only Information” for many informative presentations on this exciting and controversial view.
@@Scruffers2011 You came along 40 years too late to turn me away from the cross and my Lord. You stand in a perilous place my friend. " For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."
Hisslave1 those who perished were first century descendants of the tribes of Israel. The word perished is always associated with Israelites in the days leading up to the end of the old covenant religious system and temple community, which was in the first century. Everybody dies, but nobody today perishes in the biblical sense.
Right on brother! This was a great crash-course in apologetics! Sending this video to my buddies.
First, I love what you're doing with tactics training and entertainment. But sorry man... I have to... Using logic means not committing logical fallacy. Starting with presuppositions as a set of truths and then "jumping to conclusion" is a logical fallacy. In order to think scientifically you have to include the idea that things need to be falsifiable in order to properly analyze them and most if not all of your presuppositions are not falsifiable. The claims you make regarding what on the surface looks like causation isn't necessarily so. The idea that, there is something implying that there was a something creator doesn't logically follow. Reasoning requires some level of certainty and the claims don't reasonably contain enough certainty to warrant the claim. Quantum mechanics has seen that in a vacuum quarks can come into existence from what appears to be nothing.
Not all religions share the common characteristic being Jesus. You mentioned Buddhism as one, yet it does not and there are other eastern religions that do not as well. Confucianism and Taoism are two others. What they do share in common are instruction for ways of living through the suffering that is Life. They share similar stories/allegories for how to view the world and how to parse it. What it means to be a proper human being.
Personally, I have friends and family that are both Christian as well as Atheists. In the end the debates over there being a God or Gods don't really matter... Its a mute point all based on the fact that the reality is un-falsifiable and the burden of proof is on the believer (you can't know a cat doesn't exist). I do think whats important is that there is a set of stories with all religions that help make people better persons and that this is something we need as a humanity. You don't have to look too far to see that given the void of religion people resort to less than ideal natures. Forgetting the existence of a deity, the Bible is important, the Bhagavad Gita is important, the Dao De Jing is important and all the other religious texts that teach people how to endure the suffering of the world and how to be the best people they can for others as possible.
I hope this reads as constructive and again I love what you're doing man! Rock On!!
Well said!
alot like the metaphorical truth Weinstein brought up to Peterson in their religion debate. it works and serves a purpose but in the end may not be factually true
One of your earlier statements you mention that we have to be scientific but if there is no God and we live in a random universe there’s no chance of inductive inference therefore science is not possible but you believe that science is possible and you’re saying that we should be scientific why the inconsistency do you understand that your belief system does not comport with reality?
I'm a Warrior Poet John. I'm going to give you my honest response to your argument in this video from the perspective of it being based on logic. As a disclaimer, know that I have no vendetta against the concept of god. I will keep editing as I watch so if it doesn't say "END" I'm still working on my comment.
So right off the bat you made the false assertion that a creation implies a creator. Reductio ad absurdum, your argument implies this: Creation = Creator = Creator = Creator (Ad infinitum). Once you ask where the Creator came from, based on the same premise of "something existing implies a creator" that argument falls apart. If you can separate the god from these rules of existence and the need to be created, we can apply that same rule to the universe and the need for a creator dissolves. So we're not off to a good start.
Conscience: The claim of instinct for a universal Right and Wrong. This can be proven false, among Americans in different cultures or even within a single culture. The only thing I can say that I actually know to be true (I can logically prove it too, I'll email you my write up on this if you want) is that ALL humans ALWAYS act in a way that they BELIEVE is right, at the time of their acting. It is physically and logically impossible to do what you think you should not do. Your actions positively prove what you believed "right" was at the time of your acting.
Communication: The existence of a thing doesn't imply or even suggest a separate entity that possesses the same ability. Your error here being that you've used your conclusion as a premise to then support your conclusion. The conclusion being that god exists and the premise for the origin of communication being that god exists and created communication.
Meticulous design: Your point is on the connection between everything and how everything works together and how the earth is perfectly placed in the solar system etc. It is not only unsurprising that this could randomly happen once in how many hundreds of trillions of solar systems in the universe, it's very much likely that it has occurred multiple times in our universe. Statistically it would be almost a sure bet.
Numerous Religions Commonality: I'll respond to your point here by making my own. One thing that just so happens to be a part of every single religion that I'm aware of, is the survival of the Ego beyond death, in some capacity. In christianity for example it's the "Soul". I believe that Religion was a solution to a huge problem in early human evolution. Man became self aware. He then saw death. He thought "well where did that guy go now that he's dead? And what happens to me when I die?" Then the Ego being the magnificent adapter that it is, it "saved" itself from mortality through religion. It was easy to do because they knew very little about the universe. The after life, Heaven, Reincarnation etc. They all save the Ego. That is a significant thing to realize about religion when you understand what the Ego is. It's a very plausible explanation.
Let me say this. I think it is very important to see the world, societies and individuals as worth protecting and enjoying, despite the promise of something better later. I think it makes a man that much more powerful when he spends his moment in the light being good, with no promise of any reward in the way of afterlife or reincarnation etc. I hear the "without a god life isn't worth living" comment from most religious people. That is because they are standing on a foundation of religion as being part of who they are and can't fathom a version of the universe without it. That world view absolutely can and does exist though. There are millions of really good people that are such with no good guy score board over their head racking up points for later. They aren't snorting coke off of strippers every night or drunk driving backwards on the freeway. THIS world is enough for me.
Your premises do not logically imply your conclusion, thus logically your argument fails. It is neither Valid nor Sound. Religion MUST rely on Faith. Logic and Faith don't jive. There is nothing wrong with that though. Religion helps so many people and I'm glad it's around for them.
Thanks for sharing your views John.
-Kenny
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The last couple sentences were perfect. There's no way to logically justify something that's supernatural. I think a lot of Christians or creationists feel the need to prove to others that their view is right. That's partly due to the religion itself and the emphasis it puts on spreading the message, but I also believe that they feel a need to reassure themselves in their views. Like you said that's totally fine. Faith is the only option. I enjoyed reading your comment it was refreshing seeing someone responding civilly, especially on such a hot topic.
Wow, that was very well put together.
You are obviously a thinker of great magnitude.
I enjoyed the video and your retort.
Humans do what they think is wrong all the time. True understanding of human nature shows man’s fallen sinful state. Look at the mental illness so prevalent in our country right now. It is fully possible for a human to believe one thing and act in an opposing manner. It’s what we do, it’s why history reads the way it does. For example, people think the Bible and those who believe in God are illogical but are willing to act like aliens species most likely HAVE to exist because it justifies their atheist views, you know the same thing you were accusing John of.
@@jesseayotte6925 Are you responding to my comment or Interesting Views comment?
I've only recently discovered and subscribed to your channel, but hearing your thoughts on Absolute Truth spurs me on to learning more and more about the WPS. It bumps your credibility in my book, thank you for your time and for letting God use you to impact others.
John, I’m a Muslim and I’m a big fan of this channel. I appreciate you speaking on this topic. I also want to encourage you and anyone interested in theology to look at the works of
Christian scholar Dr. Craig Considine.
thanks Cassidy!
how old was Muhammad's wife when he had sex with her?
@@thucydides7849 how old are the kids still being molested today by sanctioned priests? Institutionalized religion is always going to be a problem, BUT people believing in their religion peacefully without trying to convert others by force or talk down on them poses no threat and should be respected. So maybe grow a pair and apologize for being so inadequate in light of such difficult topic.
@@thucydides7849 What the... Do you understand what this channel is all about? You are certainly not a Warrior Poet if you you stooped that low.
@@maximumman8911 Exactly
John, love the video! I am a young Catholic Priest, great stuff that you are putting out, would love to get together with you sometime to shoot guns and talk theology...warrior poet stuff! I live down near the Brunswick, GA area if you are ever down this way, may God be praised!
jakedog 3006 what made you become a Priest? I made a post on here about losing and being scared. I’ve dedicated my entire adult life to service as a Soldier, a Police Officer and an educator for low income at risk youth. Unyielding was severely injured and the pain has seemed to make it so that I’m not the problem solver I once was and am clouded and battling pain every second of every day with quite a bit of medicine. I’m close to being on the streets now. It’s difficult to find a job I can do especially with the medicine I take. I am a Christian, however, right now it is very bleak. Very dark.
matt henderson I actually ran from the call originally somewhat...I actually heard God speak to me when I was praying in a chapel...he actually spoke to me! I thought someone was playing a joke on me, i ran from it because it was not what I wanted to do, I wanted to become a Game Warden for the state of GA. I pursued it for a while, got a degree in criminal justice, but after a while (a lot of praying) God started to close the doors and the desire to become a priest kept getting stronger and stronger, I decided to try out the seminary for a year, that first day I stepped through the doors of the seminary I knew immediately that I was in the right place and never had a doubt God was calling me...been a priest for 6.5 years now and love it! Will be praying for you...Here is my email if you want to talk about what you are going through: jalmeter@diosav.org
matt henderson
Sounds like my health issues.
No Dr's could help. Lost jobs etc...
Turns out I had Lyme...
I know it’s easy to say, but find the right people to talk with.
Stay strong.
Whoa, fellow catholic here. So cool to see a priest watching WPS!
@@chancethegreat2 yes sir! I grew up hunting and fishing with my dad and of course shooting guns, now that I am a priest I find that these hobbies are great stress relievers and good evangelization tools especially here in south GA. Yeah I really enjoy WPS, I would love to do a video with him discussing theology, history, scripture, etc (if John would be interested) ...and of course shoot some guns. One of my parishioners is an NCIS SWAT officer and we have been training together pretty regularly
Never commented before, but LOVE this video. Couldn't have been better done. Keep up the good work.
Hey John, I loved it. If I could offer one tip, it would be to slow down. For a lot of people this might be information overload - drinking out of a fire hose if you will.
I watched a video like that once...
@@f5tornadeau this isn't for me as I preach these truths to the church I Pastor on a regular basis. But there are a lot of people that the truths are completely alien to. I know there are other factors at play on a RUclips vid but one truth understood is better than one hundred truths heard.
Probably just trying to cover a lot without making an hour long video.
There's so much more that could be said, but it's probably best to keep things short to cater to attention spans.
I died, was brought back to life and was in a coma for almost a month....I saw spiritual, heavenly figures who spoke to me, explained things that I couldnt understand..I know there is a GOD!
That’s brain chemistry going haywire.
That's literally your brain dying, but sure, it's god lol. I would know, I've seen the same thing.
P.S, it's not actually god.
Most NDE survivors see God and things of the afterlife as THEIR mind understands it. The mind and soul do not DIE when the body medically ceases to live (Jesus called, sleeping). Bt I personally think NDE's are generated in our mind like a dream...
Brother you are dead on. I am 62 married for 38 years and we care for our 33 year old disabled son that has Angelman Syndrome. Thanks for your service. I am also so glad to see you are a Christian. I am from Jacksonville but we live In Ayden, NC now. If you are ever this way would love to meet up. I have shared this and it did me good to see it tonight.
This is the content I’m here for.